When I was little (about 6) my family moved across the state

>>739455887
You probably seduced him, you little whore.

you got raped and i think it’s fine you enjoyed it but you still got raped and if you want to ruin your uncles life over his urge to nut you can.

>>739455887
your pretty fucked tbh

>>739455887
"A part of me thinks I liked it."

That is completely normal. When control is taken away from us, the mind stretches to compartmentalize it and take that control back. To survive the situation. Most girls into the extreme rape fetishes are survivors. They seek to relive the experience in a safe environment where they are in control (safe word, they can stop it, it is with someone they trust and love).

"Do i need help?"

Yes, you do. Seek a therapist with experience in dealing with early childhood trauma. Be careful, there are a ton of therapists that suck and will fuck you up more. Do lots of research.

if this is true, you were raped.
victims often feel guilty and are confused they might have "deserved" the abuse they received.
>seek professional help

I know how you feel OP my mom used to rub my back and I would fall asleep. One night, she played with my cock and balls, I was 12 at the time. It felt really good, she sucked me off until I came in her mouth. I was confused but I liked it. She made me eat her pussy whenever we were alone.

>>739457318
(not OP)
Holy fuck, that sounds awful.
If you don't mind me asking, how long did that go on for and did you seek professional help?

>>739457318
Op here

How old are you now? How did you deal with it

>>739457737
I haven't. I do any and all drugs I can get my hands on. I'm a hermit, don't work a job and will most likely kill myself before the year is over. I've never had a girlfriend because I can't trust anyone. I hate myself so much.

>>739457737
24

>>739458140
Seek professional help. Probably should talk to a male therapist

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>>739455887
Tf is the source to this?

>>739458366

Don't know bro lol found it on tmblr it's gone to shit these days but decent porn

Fucking hell, is this pathetic display of Reddit faggotry because 4chan really is dead, or is it just because of fucking summerfags?

What a disgrace this thread is.

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>>739457083
>Seek a therapist
don't

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.

>>739458366
I had it saved until yesterday when I deleted a shit load of porn.

It's really, really common here and on /gif/, newfag. Go check there.

>>739457318
Fucking hell. That's horrendous.

I can imagine being made to suck your own dad's cock would be weird af and pretty gross, but I imagine it wouldn't be /that/ gross. But eating your own mom out...that's fucking horrid.

You poor soul. I experienced some super fucked up physical abuse that has messed me up pretty fucking bad, but nothing compared to that. I've done my best to overcome it, made huge progress. Never give up.

>>739457318
>things that happened

>>739458586
its been dead since day one fam

>>739458586
see >>739459022
4chan hasn't really changed that much at all

>>739458586

OP here

4Chan was dead before summer and this post lol

>>739456541
his uncle ruined his own life

or maybe more sympathetically his uncles genes/environment/history ruined his life

>>739458985
It's not just this incident that set my death in motion. Several times now, I find my gun safe keys. Take out my .38 magnum and I swear I'm going to do it. Forwhatever reason I don't pull the trigger, maybe I'm a coward, maybe it's divine intervention. All I want to do is to be able to be happy, to finally get a good nights sleep. My past haunts me like a cancer, during the day I get flashbacks to all the bad times in my life. Sometimes these flashbacks feel more real than the moment I'm currently in. I relive these moments over and over. Ive refrained from alcohol for all this time, but I know that when I finally decide to really drink, that day I'm going to blow my brains out. All that and being perpetually alone has put the nails in the coffin.

>>739459161
Those were both me, so I don't think it really counts.

>>739459402
Are you a guy or a girl?

>>739459700
Guy

>>739458726
You're a bonafide bastard.

>>739459402
OP here
Your situation sounds horrible tbh especially with a parent. Do you keep in contact with her?

>>739460188
Of course he is in contact still. He's broken, no doubt a homo, and probably still wants her at his wedding to his faggot boyfriend some day.

>>739459402
unqualified unsolicited advice time

1. CBT or meditation can help you control your thoughts, you probably identify with your thoughts (that is to say you *are* what you are thinking) but that isnt really true. We arent slaves to what our brains choose to think, we can (with practice) learn how to control our thoughts (we cant get full control however). for instance if you think of a bad experience you can learn how to quickly change your thought pattern to something else. Breathing Meditation is the practice of focusing your attention solely on your own breathing, attention/focus is like a muscle than can be trained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7XBKhZJh4

2. context and activity keep our mind focused externally. Context means existing within something, a social group, a family, a workplace, a team. Finding a context and then deriving goals and meaning from that context is how humans can be happy long term. Drugs, sex, etc can give dopamine rushes and make us feel good but they arent what lead to long term satisfaction.


tl;dr
create a meaningful life through context and learn to minimize the harm done by negative thoughts

>>739460188
She overdrafted my dads bank account by over $3500, sold most of my toys. Gave the debit card to her dealers and let them buy groceries and take out money for themselves. Forged checks. My father was deathly sick, she would steal his painkillers and told us kids he wasn't feeling well. During this time she let the house go into preforclosure and she split. Never seen/talked to her since. I'm 24 now.

>>739459402
I've never gotten why people put so much negative attention on things of

>>739457318
this nature. I mean, sure, it's not an ideal living condition, and maybe you undersold the severity of the situation but was it really that bad that you fuck up your whole life over it?

When you look at all of the truly terrible things that happen in the world, this sort of pales in comparison. And yes, you're in a bad spot what with the drugs, and that'll be a tough spot to get out of considering the world we are in, but if some other asshole on the other side of the world can pull his life together to continue on, don't you think you can too?

>>739460615
First world problems, and first world attitudes.

Spoilt fucking babies who don't know how to pull their fucking socks up and soldier on.

>>739461036
Easy to speak about something that has never happened to you. You would be singing a whole different tune, I promise you.

>>739461138
What makes you think I wasn't abused, faggot? Don't presume, it's embarrassing.

>>739460615
It's easier for some people to subconsciously stay a victim. It gives them an excuse for anything that goes wrong in their life, when they fuck up they can blame it on their abuse. It's not always something they're aware of, but the victim complex can be deeply entrenched.

>>739461452
>It's easier for some people to subconsciously stay a victim
i totally agree and i think 'learned helplessness' is huge factor in depression

but
saying
>Spoilt fucking babies who don't know how to pull their fucking socks up and soldier on.
does zero to help anyone or change this situation

>>739455887
I lived with guilt and shame for 33 years never saying a word
Im old enough to be a grandfather now and my life is in shambles

Do something to resolve most of this soon ... time isnt your friend here

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>>739455887
I can't blame the nigga, you were probably pretty tight

>>739462167
why is that picture like pseudo 3d

>>739461452
You don't have a degree in psychology, so everything you say is utter bullshit. The way you speak is that of a teenager who has something to prove, but really doesn't know much about anything. You're a liar, everyone can see this. Like I said, you can't speak about something you've never been through. Go to sleep, kid.

>>739461769
>does zero to help anyone

I'm not a therapist, I'm a guy on the internet telling you how I see it based on quite a lot of experience and common sense. If you want information to actually help, don't ask on fucking 4chan.

"Get over it and man the fuck up" is my advice, and if that's not good enough, then seek professional help and stop whining on the internet.

>>739462391
Experience with what, exactly? You said you're not a psychologist, so how did you require this knowledge? You don't know a fucking thing, go back to lurking. You're wasting everyone's time spouting something that a 5 year old could muster.

Sex hurts children, period. I mean, imagine having a white hot slab of meat sliding into your rectum, filling you up from the bottom, a penis so big around that its girth presses out into your insides so hard that you can feel the contour of every throbbing vein. It's so enormous you can't help but grip it like you're hanging on for your very life. There are giant strong hands squeezing on your hips that almost wrap all the way around, like when you were held as a baby, kneading you. Behind you low grunts from lungs four times as big as yours, belonging to a powerful protective loving man, needing you. Soft sweaty hair against your behind as the penis gently, at first, pushes your organs out of its way. Your heart beats in your throat, as if the penis is pushing it all the way up there. Your skin seems to burn hotter and hotter as the pushes into you get faster. Eventually there's an even greater swelling inside you, so much that you think you're going to burst open, moaning somewhere, and then the penis shrinks, slides out of you, and you're left feeling empty but tingling all over with a warm spot in your center. Later there is a sadness because you know that you're growing so fast that you'll never be filled up quite as much as you just have been. But you can't wait for the next time.

>>739462619
I don't owe you any sort of explanation, and you will simply disregard me anyway, but if you must know I've dealt with abuse both first hand, growing up with 2 little brothers and an abusive step dad, and my wife was abused as a child by her father and his friends, including numerous rapes when she was aged 8 - 12.

For years, she was just like the idiots on this thread, blaming everything on her abuse, all her failures and fucked up ways. I saw her snap out of it and realise she was being a selfish idiot, and now she's not that way anymore. She manned the fuck up.

The same applied for both me and one of my brothers. My mother laid down with depression and died because of my step dad's abuse, and my other brother is still in the self-pitying whining stage. I think I know what I'm talking about.

And it's "acquire" faggot, not "require".

>>739462022
I'm married now, have a full-time job, just had my first kid and life is looking alright for my future.

Having a kid of my own now has just made me look back at my own thinking as a child. At the time I didn't know it was wrong, no one had really talked to me about it, so I didn't feel threatened. It became a want to please an elder so to speak

>>739462895
I (m) was molested my uncle, and my experience was a lot more like this pasta than OP's pasta.

>>739463358
Actually mine was like this too, I was just having trouble expressing it so eloquently

>>739462895
Why do I have a boner?

>>739463849
Because you're easily manipulated.

>>739463849
Because you have a fetish for things that happened to you.

Remember that time in the middle school hallway? Yeah, you like that, don't you?

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That really sucks OP, and you should seek some mental help

However, i was molested by my friends dad from 13-18 and i got some mental help though i didnt really take advantage of it - but im basically a fine and normal human

Youre life isnt over. Youll be fine. God helped me a lot. (Inb4 how can you believe in God after he let that happen to you? ; it wasnt God that did it to me, it was my friends dad.)

God helped me though a lot of hard times in my life. Hes been by my side as i walk throufh the valley of the shadow of death, and i fear no evil because his presence comforts me.

I hardly ever think of the abuse anymore, and when i do it doesnt really bother me. Its just like "yeah, okay, that happened - but i got over it just fine".

Try not to play to victim card on yourself, it will only make it worse. You're strong and youll make it through this. This experiance doesnt define who you are as a person.

Make good decisions in life OP - pray to Christ for help - dont repeat this vicious cycle - youll be just fine

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>>739464041
>believes in God

Your opinions is automatically invalid. Retards are not to be listened to.

>>739464110
What does that have to do with anything?

>>739463849
>Tfw you're only 8 once

>>739464041
glad someone said it

>inb4 edgelord athiests: "god isn't real"

>>739459402
Have you checked Jordan Peterson, Anon? That could help. Check him on YouTube

>>739464134
Well the God parts of it should be ignored, but the "don't think about the bad. That way it can't affect you (assuming we are only talking about things that you perceive as harmful, not like "there's a hurricane, ah well, back to work.")" is solid.

>>739464002
>applying your fetishes to others online
You can stop projecting now

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>>739464134
I already know that there is no point in arguing with athiest retards because they wont listen and they automatically ignore any points that you make just to point out the fact that you believe in God and they don't for no reason.

Have a good life anon.

>>739464566
is it crusade time?

>>739464110
Whats your point anon? We aren't arguing for/against pedo anything here. We're helping an anon out because they were raped... ????

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>>739464640
After OP is secured. Athiests die before muzzies

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>>739464640
>WTF

Watches at 0$??

>>739464566
I'd like to hear some of these valid reasons. Trust me, I'm not a retard (well, I'm on /b/ but I mean I'm less of a retard than the ones you are talking about), I'll hear what you have to say. Hell, my belief on the whole "God" thing is that there may be one out there, but due to some inconsistencies in the books out there right now, I can't make myself think that any of the highly worshipped gods exist.

So in short, there may be some god, but it seems that the ones worshipped right now are out there to make money.

>>739464872
how much time did you spend to make that joke

>>739464041
OP here
It's not something that I have let hold back my life. I am happily married and have a child of my own.
No disrespect to you, but I don't see religion in my near future. I am just trying to come to terms with it now.

>>739458640
take it easy, L Ron

>>739455887
OP are you a guy or a grill?

>>739464566
It's not about the atheist being an atheist, that's not important here. The issue is the religiousfag.

There's a very valid reason for not listening to people who believe in God.

They're mentally broken retards automatically, so how the fuck could they be trusted on any other matter? It's not complicated.

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>>739458140
Are you me?

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>>739464945

>>739465057
I am a grill
>>739465115
I am tripping on acid right now, and the more I look at this the trippier it gets

>>739465172
amazing, i am thoroughly impressed

>>739460615
>was it really that bad that you fuck up your whole life over it?

In my case, I think it was a trauma that completely fucked up my worldview happened at such a young age and was so constant for so long, it was NORMAL and all I really knew. I don't really think I've intentionally fucked up my life, but I don't blame anyone. I'm very fatalistic. The worlds gonna keep spinnin til the sun expands to a red giant and consumes it. By that time I, and every last trace of us, will likely long be dust.

I kinda got "Total Perspective Vortexed" at about ages 5 if anyone knows the reference. I haven't been to Nam or nuthin, but I've seen some shit.

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>>739464937
I dont speak for catholics or protestants or anything because a lot of them seem to be up to some sort of financial scam - but i pay tithing to my orthodox church because it helps my church stay afloat and provide nice things for the laity in my community. My priest is by no means a rich man, nor is anybody in our church.

The orthodox church doesnt have any sort of financial-higher-ups that they need to pay atrocious amounts of money to. Thats how Christ intended it.

Even still, i dont go to church to give them money. I go to church because i love going and i always feel happiness and kindness there. I feel like all the problems in my life are just washed away. Same with when i pray.

I use to have an alcohol problem, and once i quit, i just couldnt get myself to stop craving for it. All i did is say 1 little dinky heartfelt prayer and i didnt crave a drink anymore.

Same with my molestation story. No more worries anon. God is with me now and always has been, i just had to ask for His help.

I'm not trying to preach here, but you asked, and i feel that its at least a little bit of my duty to give you the chance to acceot Christ. I usually dont talk about it unless people ask - i dont think forcing religion down peoples throats is right.

But He helped me with everything i ever needed, and comforted me in dark times and brought me back to the light. I dont worry about my molester anymore, or my passed father, or anything like that. I feel saved now anon, and i hope you are someday too.

>>739465088
Religiousfag here. You proved my point

>>739465472

(op)
this is what happened to me. It happened when I was so young that it was just normal to me and didn't see it as wrong at the time. Now I haven't really let it hold my life back I just think I have a fucked up way of looking at things

>>739465658
couldn't have said it better myself

>>739465888
Thanks anonbro

>>739465754
Oh yeah? Well you still didn't even grasp mine.
>just to point out the fact that you believe in God and they don't for no reason.

Atheists don't point out the fact you believe in God and they don't for no reason, unless they're being a fucking pointless spastic.

What they will do, however, is point out that you have a mental illness you admit to. You believe in God, you're admitting you're fucking broken. So why the hell would your opinion matter?

No rational, sensible, logical person, or even a person with the slightest semblance of intelligence, would listen to anything an admitted mentally ill person has to say. That's why atheists ridicule you. Because you're retarded, and too fucking dumb to realise it.

Why do you think so many abused people find religion?

It's no fucking surprise. Religions are the most abusive thing going. Replacing one abusive father with another, all powerful, King of Abusive fathers.

God is the most fucked up abuser you could possible imagine.

>>739466086
so if I believe that niggers are mentally ill, i can uppercut their entire culture with genocide?

>>739457318
Nice.

>>739466194
First thing, isn't it weird how everything comes down to religion

Second, if you don't believe in God, it sucks to suck, but that's your choice. I'd rather believe in something with an upbeat life because of hope of an afterlife than a bitter, hateful life based on the "inevitability of death"

>>739466086
Further proving my point. GJ

>>739466276
First you have to prove they're mentally ill. Niggers don't all believe in a magical man, like religioustards do. There's plenty of evidence that religious faith is a mental illness, but of course you wouldn't pay any attention to it. There's a serious issue with the double standards of society, you believe the voices in your head, your schitzo and they lock you up in a secure facility. Unless the voices tell you they're God, in which case you're a religiousfag like all the other fucking mental cases who believe such nonsensical garbage.

And what the fuck does genocide have to do with anything you fucking sociopath?

>>739465224
What was it like the first time your uncle did more than just touching you or putting his dick your mouth?

>>739466510
Who is having a hateful, bitter life?

Atheists have fucking amazing lives because we realise this is the only one we have. Better make the most of it and not waste it on invisible, make believe deities who clearly don't exist to anyone with half a brain cell.

Why do religious people always think atheists are scumbags? It's really ironic.

>>739465658
The reason I don't like religions based on a concept of heaven and hell is because (from what I've seen/ the people I've talked to) the events of this world are temporary. So they go on saying love each other, do good, etc., but ultimately, they have no motivation to fix issues in this world, because it is only temporary.

I think of it as when I'm playing a game. While I'm in the game, the choices I make affect what I'm experiencing, but I know that once I turn it off, it all goes away and has no bearing. Sure, I could spend the small effort to rebuild that part of town, but ultimately, why, when I can move on to this next great title?

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>>739466194
Why do athiests always get so aggressive? Christ helped me when i needed it and i shared my story. All of a sudden a wild athiest appears to further prove my point that God brings people to the light while athiests live in anger, hate, and darkness.

Theres no point in arguing with them. I'm not a psychologist, I can't help them.

>>739466662
You don't think that everyone born on this earth isn't mentally ill do you? Who are you to judge someone based on their beliefs? If it doesn't matter, then why do you care so much about religionfags? Why not just let them believe their "lies" and go on with something that makes them happy?

>>739466717

Mentally, at the time I didn't really feel any different. I just thought my uncle had stepped it up a little bit and I needed to tough it out

Physically, it was painful and cold. I was a 6 year old lol

>>739466777
Atheists have yet to prove me wrong

What do you guys think created the universe?

>>739466868
Because we are tired of you spreading your hypocrisy and bullshit. And most importantly, we're SICK AND TIRED OF YOU HOLDING US BACK.

You've been doing your damage long enough. If it weren't for religions, there's absolutely no telling how advanced our society could be by now.

And if you think I'm being aggressive... seriously, you must be new to the internet. I really am just amazed that such a lack of basic intelligence can still exist on this planet. We went through the enlightenment and you're still spouting your medieval, dark-aged garbage, it's incredible.
And then you have the nerve to suggest it's us who are living in anger, hate and darkness, when that's your ENTIRE ETHOS.

We fight you because you're holding us back, retard.
Get the fuck out of our way and let humanity move forward for a change.

>>739466948
It was cold?

>>739459402
You have PTSD, get medicinal cannabis, it will help with the sleep

>>739466868
Atheists are pretty different, the ones you see a probably teenagers that are still very edgy.

Most atheists I know (including myself) are apathetic towards religion, I just ignore it and don't really engage in conversations about it, when I was a teen I'd talk about it constantly in a negative fashion however.

I like to collect lots of religious books I get from people on the street these days.

>>739467123
E D G Y

>>739466942
Because they have power, they hold back entire cultures.

America is fucked because of it's religious culture, Islam is a fucking mess because of their ancient beliefs, and religious idiots keep fucking up the world for everyone.

We can't "let them believe their lies and go on with something that makes them happy" because they are infringing on everyone else's lives.

It's bullshit, pure and simple.

>>739467123
>inb4 same thinking as hitler towards Jews

Who's the sociopath now cunt?

>>739466987
Atheists don't have to prove a fucking thing, as you can't prove a negative.

It's up to you to do all the proving, faggot. That's how this shit works.

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>>739466817
Imagine tithing as donations that arent tax exempt. A lot of my tithings are going to help feed the poor in my community without the tax-exempt status. I gain nothing out of it, others do. Someday when im out of college and have a career with a bigger paycheck, i would like to donate to other good charities, its just that a lot of them are scams.

Either way, following the Bible and Christs teachings lead to a happy, joyful, and fullfilling life. For all i know, i might be wrong and this might be the only life i ever get. Even if i falsly believe that God exists (which im sure is true), then at least I've lived a modest and happy life here on earth and die in peace.

I think too many people look at the surface of things and think its all about money. The Orthodox church at least is not a massive golden rich church like the catholics. I pay my tithings to help my church and my community, not much goes into my priests pocket, and what does go into his pocket helps him buy food at home because his only job is helping the church of Christ.

There's so many sad and angry people in this world, but in His church the people are happy and help one another as much as they can to be happy.

Even if im wrong, im happy. But i believe its because God is with us.

https://youtu.be/DnYx1P8pdUo

Filming my uncle in bros room

>>739467291
Atheists don't automatically condone genocide, idiot. Your comparison is pathetic and doesn't even work.

Try again.

>>739467304
I'm just going out on a limb and saying that you're a big fan of science

>>739467156

Yes, I remember this particularly because when I woke up in the midst of it or he heard a noise sometimes he would try to cover me with a heavy blanket

>>739466510
Well, most things come back to religion because at the core of most everything is something we don't understand. So people say "That is the work of a higher power" because as humans we want things to be complete and some people have found a method to complete the puzzle.

The problem with this is that it leaves questions unanswered. Plus, if every puzzle had the same answer, all puzzles become boring and that is one less interesting thing to do.
To your second point, yes, there are atheists who are bitter, but you can find that trait in anyone of any religion, so that isn't a valid point.

>>739467350
>charities are scams
>but tithes are legit

Holy shit, how can you possibly deal with this kind of idiocy?

"If you could have a rational discussion with religious people, there would be no religious people."

>>739467388
If you don't believe in God, what do you believe in? Anything from swiss cheese to String theory?

Just be happy you got laid.

>>739467432
A "fan"? Define "fan".

If you mean I take advantage of all it has to offer, just like you do, then sure, I guess I'm a fan.

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>>739467163
You're a good one OP. Don't live in anger. I hopw you find God someday in the booms of yours, but even if you don't, be happy anon. This might be the only chance we get

>>739459402
>Take out my .38 magnum and I swear I'm going to do it.

What the fuck is a ".38 magnum", noguns larper faggot?

>>739467546
I'm just saying that a lot of atheists become god-hating reprobates because of 'proof' provided by science

>>739467441
Was it that his body was cold, or that you felt cold because of how he was acting towards you; or was it both?

>>739467534
I believe in humanity, I believe we exist and we can do good without being told to by a magic man. I believe religion holds us back and we have to grow the fuck up and get over it, because it's so clearly nonsense.
I believe that God sure as fuck didn't create this computer I'm using, but mankind did.
I believe the music I'm listening to right now is amazing, and made by atheists with no Godly input.

I believe in a lot of things, you'll have to be far more specific.

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>>739467500
I dont think you distinguished the difference between tax exempt charities (like feed the african children for only 0.99 a day!) and paying tithing to my church. Try reading the post next time anon

>>739466868
To be fair, the question in the picture should be "So where did the universe come from?" and the answer should be "I don't know, but I'd like to find out."

I'm not saying that atheists don't post pictures of a poorly phrased argument just to win, but that doesn't mean that you should.

>>739467658
What do you mean "proof"? There's no proof for or against any God. There can't be, as God doesn't exist.

You can't disprove a negative, and you certainly can't prove one.

>>739467702
What do you think created the universe?

>>739459402
Story possibly false as there are no .38 Magnums.

>>739467709
I don't think you distinguish the difference yourself.

Oh wait, that's because there isn't one. Charities are more likely to do good with their money than churches, that's sure as fuck for certain.

But hey, you keep on paying for your pastor's big mansion and nice new car, if it makes you feel better because you can't face the reality of life without the coward's comfort blanket of faith.

>>739467782
Fine, let's say that there isn't a god, for argument's sake. What's the point in living then?

>>739467793
I have no idea, maybe the big bang, that seems to be the most accurate model so far. One day we'll know for sure, and it won't be because of any God.

>>739467929
I've seen good done by churches first hand. Once you get some real experience on the matter, you can talk about it with meaning.

OP here

I don't know how this turned into a religious discussion, but a god that lets bad things like these happen to children is no god.

I have heard it all, and to any other victims out there I would recommend steering away from religion. It is just another abusive relationship

People will try to tell you it was a "test from God" to get you to a better place, but it wasn't. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and your abuser was a fucked up person.

I'm just not going to give credit to some deity for my happiness WHILE believing that he had me raped as a 6 year old as some type of test. I don't understand this way of thinking. The ends do not justify the means

>>739468014
The point is, science, humanity, and other things are your gods. Gods aren't necessarily tangible "magic men" to all believers, but a foundation on which to build your life. The only problem is that there are so many "gods" believed in by different people that everyone claims that theirs is real.

>>739468040
So have I, so what? The negatives of religion FAR outweigh the positives.

Try again.

>>739467714
Fair enough argument anon, but the big bang theory says the universe just happened into existence with no reason why. As a christian, i believe in the bbt, but i believe it happened with devine intervention. The bbt is basically described in Genesis.

We should keep searching for any reason or cause of the bb, but theres really no way to know what happened before the first event ever. I believe it was Gods work, but i mean you're basically right about the pic

>>739467350
That's all well and good, and I never said you shouldn't help others. I just meant that there are religious people who don't put as much forward as they could because this world doesn't matter to them and I see this as being highly detrimental. So while they get good feelings knowing that they did right, they really only helped themselves which hurt others.

If you believing in God leads you to help others, and you don't try to convince people to stop looking for answers because "God is the answer.", then I have no problem with you believing in a God.

>>739467837
cant you fucking round faggot?

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>>739457083
Mainstream psychology is like 1800 medicine really. No one knows what their doing or anything really. Until Partition Theory or AMBTI is realized and approved, I cannot recommend any psychology, Or support anyone recommending it

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>>739468222
I dont think you know the difference between religion and church, and man and God.

Religion is good, Sin is bad.
God is good, man sins.

Bad things in the church are done by man, not God.

Roll the dice again anon, lets see what you get next

>>739468214
No, this is a silly, common argument made by religious fools.

Atheism means A-THEISM. Lack of theism. No theism. NO GODS.

Science is a tangible, real thing we can see with our own eyes. We experience it on a very real level. It's right there, not in your mind or as some vague concept, but RIGHT THERE happening.

It's testable, consistent and provable.

That's what makes it different from any of your Gods, whatever you mean by that term.
I'm afraid what you're saying is just plain wrong. I know you can't grasp these concepts, as simple as they are, but that's why you believe in God. You're not very bright, let's face it.

>>739468172
Exactly, you claim that their isn't any meaning, yet there is a desire among certain scientists and astronomers and other humans to discover the answers of creation. If that isn't more meaning, then I don't know what is. Religionfags believe that they've found their "higher calling" sp they cling to it. Either way, there is more meaning, you just have to have faith.

>>739457083
As a fellow atheist, science enthusiast, Radditor, moderator of r/science, r/twoxchromosomes, and r/todayilearned, I commend these posts.

Now I implore you to kill yourself.

>>739455887
Did he start with the front door or the back door?

>>739468454
Ah that old argument. It's almost so stupid it's actually hard to counter, like going full retard.

Without religion, there is no church.

Checkmate faggot. You're going to have to try much harder to wriggle out of your pit of stupidity.

>>739468222
I'm not sure you read most of what this guy typed.

Yes, there are offshoots of religions that have negative practices, but specirically what was listed in this guy's post, that form of religion seems to have led to positive outcomes.

And he said the tithes go to the small church which then goes to helping out his comunity. I suppose the guy could track down the poor and directly hand them the money he was giving to the church, but the problem there is vetting the person you are giving the cash.

I experienced some abuse by teachers when i was in elementary, nothing much compared to what ive seen in this thread but theyd beat me up and whenever someone did anything wrong i was the one whod get the blame, i realize it doesnt seem that serious but it still fucked me up pretty bad, didnt get a childhood really.

>>739468513
Last time I checked, science was an idea, therefore not tangible and entirely in your mind. Not to mention that if it were tangible, going by your basic bitch knowledge, it was still created by man, just like atheists say religion was.

>>739468531
If scientists want to find the answers of creation then great. They will do that and it will be PROVABLE and FACT.

Religionfags cling to their "higher calling" because they can't face reality. It's sad, and they make everyone else suffer because they're too cowardly to face life without their God.

They need to grow up and stop holding back humanity like an anchor.

>>739468242
Thanks for not being a dick (no sarcasm intended). And the BBT says that it happened into existence and we don't know why. Small difference, but one implies that we will never know.

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>>739468513
Your blatant sense of superiority misleads you anon. This is why God is great, he teaches you to be humble and not an egomaniac.

>>739468799
Dubs of truth right here

>>739468697
Last time you checked, you were completely wrong on every point. Perhaps you should check again.

>>739468799
It's not a question of being superior, Oh Hypocrite of Faith.

It's a question of being sensible and rational in the face of clear nonsense.

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>>739468282
Any Christian who believe that this life on eartb is not important is not a true Christian amd does not truely understand Gods word and workings.

Good deeds on this earth will lead you to heaven, sure, but pride and doing things only for yourself are sinful. I dont help others just to get to heaven, i help others because it helps others. It makes others happy.

Any true Christian understands this. And theres many more true Christians than you think.

You always hear about a couple of men who do bad things inside the church, but truely i tell you that the works of these men are sinful and usually disgusting and that they are not Holy men. There are billions more good people of faith than there are of evil men in power. This is true of almost anything.

>>739468697
Science wasn't created by man you absolute retard. Science was around long before man, and will still exist long after.

At this point, I have to conclude you're just trolling, because this is absolute garbage. You're not even trying.

>>739468624
I read every word. His argument is still, essentially, that religions do some good.

While that is true, it's like saying that Charles Manson did some good because sometimes he was nice to people.

It's a failure of an argument, because as I said before, the negatives far outweigh the positives. There's no getting around it.

>>739468734
It will only be provable if everyone sees it/experiences for themselves. Anyone that outright believes whatever a scientist says is just as much "at fault" as someone who believes a priest.

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>>739468616
I really can't believe this.
"Athiests do bad things too. Without athiesm these bad things wouldnt happen."

Some people are bad, some people are good. Theres good athiests, and bad Christians. Youre not distinguishing the difference between God and man, and what God does for the church and what man does for the church.

You need to see a psychologist anon, you're having a hard time comprehending small things.

>>739469061
Yeah... what's your point? You're correct, that's exactly how science works.

That's why we have peer reviews, and evidence, and we test and retest, and scientists are constantly proving and disproving each other as we continue to learn. That's what progress looks like. Something religious people are incredibly unfamiliar with.

For example, that's why we also dismiss flat Earthers, because they have no proof, and we have a shit load of proof that the Earth is a globe. And we can see it's a globe with our own eyes.

Same with your Gods.

>>739457083
>Rape victims don't enjoy sex unless "their minds stretch to compartmentalize it and take control back"
Lel psychology is such a joke
>>739457318
Was she at least hot?

>>739468958
I'm talking about the idea of science. Ronald McDonald didn't exist before humans. Humans created the idea of science, yet we still know next to nothing about our reality.

>>739469194
The irony of your post is really astounding. If I ignore the terrible straw men and arguments from ignorance, I still can't make sense of your babbling.

Like I said, you are being so stupid it's hard to counter. You've gone full retard and I don't even know where to begin with you, the stupidity is too overwhelming.

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>>739468791
God bless you anon. Time for bed. I'm done fighting with these other athiests.

>>739468930
I never said that you specifically are in it just for you. I said that most of the ones I talked to had that attitude. When I'd ask "What do you do to better this world?" the common answer I got was "I spread my faith." It was almost never "I feed the hungry." or "I clothe the cold." or anything related to that. Most people had the thought of "If I tell 3 people, then they will do all those good things and the world will become good.".

And for this reason, I don't like religion.

>>739469296
No, we didn't. That's the thing you're not grasping for some reason. Science is our name for something that exists whether we exist or not. We know that because we can witness it ourselves.

>>739469216
I just want to make it clear, I am by no means a flat earther.

Flat earthers are probably wrong, but we believe that the earth is a globe because we perceive it that way. It's all about what's in the eye of the beholder. You look at the earth and see something, I look at the earth and see hand-crafted beauty that warms my heart.

>>739469056
No, his argument was that HIS religion does good and that there are shitty ones out there, but his isn't one of them.

It's easier for some people to subconsciously stay a victim. It gives them an excuse for anything that goes wrong in their life, when they fuck up they can blame it on their abuse. It's not always something they're aware of, but the victim complex can be deeply entrenched. - These are very wise words. It has taken me 50 years to learn that. It would be prudent for younger people to pay attention and listen to those who have learned life experiences with age.

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go talk to jesus. the priest would really like it.

>>739469393
So religions are abominable for not providing for the poor, then why don't atheists give more? There are lots of atheists nowadays, why don't they get together more often to help the needy?

>>739469466
I wasn't suggesting you were a flat Earther, but the reasons we (and you) dismiss flat Earthers are completely valid.

And they are, ultimately, the same reasons we dismiss religion.

And no, not all things are issues of perception. Some things are fixed and set in stone. That's what science is based upon. Repeatable, testable results. 100% of the time. If that's not the case, then it's bad science, and we throw it away and try again until we understand it with good science.

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>>739469333
Good counter argument athiest, im in such mental shock and awe that i dont know how to reply to you. You've truely crushed my faith with your cold hard facts this time buddy, how will i ever recover. Looks like im an angry, hateful, spiteful athiest now. Might as well go kill myself since theres no point anyways. Good job anon, keep fighting off those evil evil evil men of "God". The world would be such a terrible place without you. Good thing you got your PhD in debate. I dont think "God" himself could beat you in an argument. Alright, off to off myself now, have a nice meaningless life anon, see you never

>>739469475
I UNDERSTAND.
Holy shit, you're still not getting it.

I've said this 3 times now. Just because there are good religions doesn't mean religion is good. Again, the negatives of religion FAR outweigh the positives. Is this really so hard to comprehend? I'm not going to say it again.

>>739469475
Exactly, I've handed out food to homeless people in my city, only because it was paid for by money given through tithes. It was one of the best feelings in the world.

>>739469658
I don't think you read anything I posted what so ever.

>>739469640
Then why can't you be that way with religion? There's bad religion, throw it away, try to understand it better to make it good.

>>739469625
They do a lot. Especially in Europe and the Far East.

But it tends to be more than simply financial aid. That's a very American thing which stems from the whole capitalist culture and worship of the dollar, which is the real God in our society.

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>>739469393
>i dont like God because of what man does
>Some people are stupid so i dont like religion as a whole even though religion teaches the opposite of said mens stupidity

Im off now anon, but i hope i made some kind of impact. If not, whatever, was fun. I'll shoot dice with you next time athiest. I'll try and be more charitable to people every day.

>>739469882
Still, without the funding from churches, many relief organizations wouldn't be able to provide. You must admit that because it is a fact.

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Fuck, what has this thread become? Can't you idiots just agree to disagree?

There are good people who don't believe in religion and bad people who do. Neither of these necessitates religion to exist or not exist. Most positive ideals of religion are universal and exist irrelevant to religion. As such, it doesn't matter whether you believe in God(or any higher power) or not. It's fine if you do and fine if you don't. Trying to force others to believe what you believe is futile and quite frankly counter-intuitive. Simply find the common ground of the universal positive ideals and then agree to disagree on the rest. That is how we co-exist as a society.

>>739469819
Because it's literally all bad. It has to be, because it involves belief in something that is unprovable. That doesn't work. Blind faith is not acceptable, nor should it be.

The moment you have faith, you're not able to be a good scientist.

Religion is inherently "bad religion" by it's very nature, because it has to be.

>>739470063
Now you're just saying shit that doesn't make any sense, not backing it up with anything at all and just spewing opinions.

>>739464041
>God is omnipresent
>except when I'm being raped; God wasn't the rapist
I'm sorry, maybe I should've asked what magic powers your God has.

>>739464394
itt: people who have more sorting to do than I. Really puts my messy room in perspective

>>739469972
Sure... but only because churches are so prevalent in culture. I'm guessing you're American, if you have a lot of churches around you and you use a "z" in "organization", yeah?

But if the churches suddenly vanished, if all religious people were magically turned atheist overnight, do you really think those relief organisations wouldn't get money from atheist sources instead?

Of course they would. Atheists are not necessarily immoral. They give to charity, they care for each other, they love their society and each other, because they realise it's the right thing to do. Not because any God told them so, but because it's obvious to any person what's right and wrong.

>>739468734
https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

Holding back the world like an anchor, huh?

>>739470063
As of right now, the big bang is unprovable. That's blind faith in man made instruments. Hypocritical, just like you claim i am.

>>739470130
Sorry, what? Just because you can't grasp it doesn't mean it's nonsense.

I explained it completely, if you don't understand, that's your own stupidity, not mine.

>>739469625
I agree. Why don't they? Anyone who puts their own interest ahead of making sure this world and those who live here continues on are dirtbags.

But ultimately, I don't really care. Could the world have been a better place without religion? Yes. But it also could have led to us finding a tool that would kill us that much quicker. In the end, every group is full of idiots that will pull us down. Hell, my helping the needy could give them just enough motivation to do nothing and wind up hurting the world.

So in the end, I don't care if you a religious or not, so long as you base your ideas on logic and are willing to admit your defeat. So if you want to say that God stopped you from drinking, then good. But if someone is able to reproduce those effects in your brain, you better be willing to say that it was something of a placebo effect in the first place.

>>739470029
This

did your uncle ever take any pics and do you have any you can share?

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>>739457083
Oh, for fucks sake! Don't listen to this stupid asshole.

You liked it because everybody likes to be touched. Was it wrong of your uncle to do that? Of fucking course. It was an abuse of power and trust. That being said, you enjoying it was perfectly natural: it was not done with violence.

Don't fall for the tedious victim mentality that Americans loooove to confer to people who suffered abuse such as yours. You're an adult now. Don't feel bad about feeling physically good about what happened: it's perfectly normal. None of it was your fault. Your uncle should burn in hell. Don't fall into a victim mentality: you survived and what you experienced was just shitty things that sometimes happen that are outside our control.

Live a good life, anon.

>>739470130
What's so hard to understand? You asked why you can't "throw away" bad religion and "understand it to make it better and good".

I explained why that's not possible; because religion by it's very definition will always be "bad" no matter how much you understand it or try to make it good, because it relies on unscientific processes such as faith and belief, and not hard facts and evidence based science.

>>739470241
What is your point exactly?

>>739469894
Enjoy. (And I mean that with sincerity)

>>739470249
Actually it's not unprovable, we've proven it happened.
But even before we did, it was still a PROBABLE event. That means it's our best "guess" and therefore we make an educated assumption.

Sorry, but your ignorance of scientific processes doesn't make you right.

Anyway religiousfags I have to go. Enjoy being retarded all your lives.

>>739462386
Psychology is a bullshit "science" and degrees mean fuck-all

>>739470449
>Religionfags cling to their "higher calling"
>they can't face reality.
>they're too cowardly to face life without their God.
>They need to grow up and stop holding back humanity like an anchor.

You know what my point is, dont play stupid

>>739470249
But the difference here is that if the big bang were to be disproven, the people would stop believing in the big bang.

Whereas when people point out inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible, the people who believe in the bible dismiss the points and say that it is all good, and that there are reasons we can't know as to why those contradictions took place.

>>739465088
As a former atheist, I now see why I annoyed people. Thankyou for justifying my new found religiosity

>>739470409
Science shouldn't take precedence over everything, whatever happened to living happily?

>>739470678
No, I really don't.

So scientists were religious during a time when everyone was fucking religious? Wow so insightful.

How many serious scientists are religious now, faggot? And I do mean serious scientists.

A lot of scientists don't get laid much, does that mean not getting sex is good, too?
A lot of scientists are on the autism spectrum, does that mean autism is a great thing?
A lot of scientists would call you a fucking idiot, does that mean they're right?

Your argument is fucking pathetic and makes absolutely no sense. Try again.

>>739470966
You're just to stubborn to admit that he has a point. Too egotistical to admit when you're wrong.

>>739470958
I was asked to discuss science, so I discussed science.

Are you changing tack because you realise your argument is shit?

Anyway, I happen to agree. As I already stated earlier.

>>739470879
You annoyed people because you're a spastic. Hence your return to religion. Admitting your a retard isn't a good way to make people take you seriously, mongoloid.

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>>739470966
Like i said hours ago - you cant argue with athiests. Their actual literal assburgers

>>739471053
I told you why science isn't reliable, cause our version of science is solely based on human interpretation of data.

>>739471037
If he had a point, I'd listen to it, like I've listened to certain others here in the last hour.

But he doesn't, so I won't, so fuck you.

>>739471152
*They're

Literal assburgers? I don't even know what that would be. But I think you need to go and learn how to English before you try this again.

>>739471167
And you're wrong.

The end.

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>>739471188
Proof that athiests are hateful, spiteful, mean, arrogant, stubborn, unwilling, dark, angry people

>>739471120
No it is a way to make people take him seriously because it shows humble nature, not self-glorifying lies

>>739471230
I think you need to lurk more before posting on 4chan

To the few here that started this thread, I'm sorry I asked one guy to explain why he believes in god. I hope you're not too mad.

>>739469719
atheist here.
dude, you have to differentiate.
the form of religion determines if it has a good or bad impact on the life of people. Besides believing in a deity that can answer all questions there are, religions don't have much in common. Some are authoritarian in nature, others are liberal. Some demand violent qonquering of new land and believers, other preach pacifism, and some even propagate the isolation of believers to the general public, so they can strife for enlightenment. Some are charitable, others concentrate wealth to the leaders.

the atheist argument is simply to not believe in their deities, but with a lack of own set of cultural norms, we are just bystanders and outside observers of religious societies. But we don't OPPOSE them, simply because we lack an own stance on many matters.

many people need spirituality in moments of grief and pain, or to get motivated and deal with the struggles of their lives, some are so much fueled by righteous indignation, that they will outgrow the limits of their potential, and I'm more than willing to tolerate that.

Yes, there are certain bad religions, usually those with a lack of humanistic and egalitarian principles, but this still does not allow us - atheists - to dismiss the arguments of religious INDIVIDUALS for why religion had a good impact on THEIR life.
We can argue with them, and try to convince them to find their motivational core elsewhere, but we have no right, nor valid platform to demand that from.

We don't know if they are right or wrong about their deities. And we've decided for ourselves to dismiss the idea of deities until proven otherwise. They have decided to accept the idea until proven otherwise. And both sides do not posses the position to declare the other as wrong.

Once you get that, you will stop being a raging child. The world is grey, not black and white. Good and bad are subjective. Deal with it.

https://youtu.be/_Uu_sEnNKcI

>>739456030
underrated

>>739471252
And I'm retarded? This is by far the most straight out unimpressive thing you've said. This is the phrase of a coward that knows he's lost.

>>739471265
No retard. Proof that THIS ONE atheist is hateful, spiteful, mean, arrogant, stubborn, unwilling, dark and angry. That's where you always go wrong. Not intelligent enough to grasp what proof actually is, and what it actually proves.

Fucking hell, religious people really are the dumbest mother fuckers. Seriously, you need to acknowledge that your entire belief system is stopping mankind from progressing.

Get the fuck out of the way and let the big boys get on with progressing our fucked up society and fixing your mess.

>>739457318
man what a childhood. i wish i had that

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>>739471305
Someone asked for some help as it pertains to sexual abuse and i gave my answer and it partially had to do with my experiance with sexual abuse and how God helped me through it, so of course the athiests jump out to change the thread and try to prove He doesnt exist. Typical.

>>739467350
You have to believe in something or you get too easily buried in the chaos of the world. Even atheism is an act of faith that "science" or pure reason is the root of all meaning. I'm fine with that, and I understand hostility towards religious institutions better than anyone. But I wish atheists would respect people who see the bible as something worth basing your self in that leads to proper action and happiness.

>>739471167
For the love of jeebus. You're an incredibly idiot asswipe. EVERY MOTHERFUCKING THOUGHT YOU HAVE is based on human interpretation of data, INCLUDING religious thoughts.

I hate millitant atheists as much as millitant jesusfreaks, but at least the majority of atheist are not as stupid as you

>>739471230
literal as in from a story. All clear?
And, yes, we're all aware that typo's happen. When you strat pointing out those as reasons to invalidate a guys point, you show that you have no argument.

Not the same guy by the way.

So is OP a femanon? This is important to my dick

>>739471327
Typical moderate atheist garbage.

You're not an atheist, you're an apologist and probably a faggot.

>>739471386
Whatever makes you feel better about it.
You're still wrong, get used to it.

>>739471443
AthEIst. The fucking word is A T H E I S T. At least learn to spell, you motherfucking retard.

>>739471423
You aren't doing a very good job of being a good example as to why I should become an atheist. And anyone can do anything really, no one is holding anyone back entirely.

>>739471514
screencap'd
this will make an appearance in the next cringe thread.

>>739469658
good that todays peace is secured by religion... not.

>>739471327
Good person
>>739471514
Bad person

See the difference?

>>739471572
When a woman's not allowed to abort her baby because religious fags have banned it, they're holding her back. Try telling her she can "do anything, really".

Don't be so silly.

>>739471443
Yes, but I feel that if I didn't ask for further clarification from one guy, the post would have gone unnoticed and this all would have been avoided.

>>739471468
You're just as much of an idiot as I am then, because you are dictated by the same limitations.

>>739459402
1. Set up camera
2. Set up broadcast event
3. Post link here
4. Get out gun
5. Pull trigger
6. An hero
6. Profit

>>739471612
If you are an atheist who allows others to believe in God, you're doing it wrong. You're a bad atheist, and a bad human being. It's your duty to tell them they're wrong, not to be okay with their belief in a bullshit deity which ruins your own life in so many ways.

>>739471423
Again,
>stopping mankind from progressing
https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

So its okay for you to blame an entire religion because of some bad people, but not okay for me to say the same? I'll admit what i said was wrong and i take it back, YOU are the mean and angry one. Will you do the same? I doubt it but we will see

>>739471572
If she wants to have an abortion (kill) so badly, she should just do it with a coat hanger then.

>>739471589
I don't think obvious bait belongs in cringe threads.

>>739471567
Pretty good argument you got there

>>739471730
You're not an atheist, you're just a toxic motherfucker that didn't get hugged enough by their dad.

>>739471685
Your stupidity and lack of coherent thought is amazing.
I am in awe. For the sake of our species I hope you die without any descendants.

>>739471771
judging from his other posts, and how I seriously thought about the matter myself a couple of decades ago, I don't believe it's b8, anon.
I'm willing to believe that this dude is exactly as retarded as he sounds...

>>739459402
Whatever I say, will bare no chance of making you feel better, but there is something I need to say. Imagine you turn invisible and are put in a room where the same thing is happening to a child that happened to you, you wouldn't even for a second think that this kid deserved it, and you would be right, it's all the parent's fault for forcing themselves on an innocent being. Your mother was a monster, she is the one that needs to feel the way you do now anon, not you. Don't end your life because you ended up with an insane parent, get a dog, a lab or a golden retriever as mentioned by one of the other anons, you have PTSD and those dogs are magical when it comes to calming you down.

Also see a professional if you haven't, there are tons of people that have experienced what you have, you ain't alone man. But mostly don't blame yourself for the actions of a crazy bitch who had no idea how to treat a child.

Good luck to you anon, I truly hope you get out of this.

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>>739471675
You're probably right ngl lol

>>739471756
I've never said I wasn't mean and angry, of course I am. Because I have to deal with retards and idiots who believe nonsense and infringe on my fucking life with their bullshit.

I don't blame an entire religion, I blame ALL religions and anyone who is stupid enough to believe in a magic deity on blind faith.

Just because some scientists did some good scientific things, that doesn't mean they were perfect. I still don't understand why you keep posting that list as if it means something.

So they believed in God, so what? They were wrong, because like all humans they were fallible. What of it? Get to the fucking point already.

>>739471567
This would have been a good post if you didn't ridicule the person for a typo.

You can get your point across without being a jerk. Especially if the other person isn't screaming like a child.

Now if you have some fat bitch in your face yelling that she was in the right of way, then by all means, get assertive. But just calling names doesn't help move the point along.

All you've effectively done is put another marker in that guy's mind that atheists are dicks. Well done.

>>739471805
That's not an argument, you moronic twat. I just wanted my eyes to stop bleeding everytime I read one of his (yours?) asinine replies.

>>739471857
I don't think he's retarded, he's absolutely right about a lot of shit, but he's lost his patience and started yelling. The "faggot" part makes me think it's bait.

>>739471443
you are on /b/
did you really expected something else?

>>739460519
How does cock ball torture help him?

>>739471825
I will have as many children as possible, because that is the point of life no?

Full fucking circle bitch.

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>>739471909
I cant prove a point to somebody who doesnt get points

>religionfags hold back humanity
>oh yeah also religionfags have progressed humanity with major scientific advancements

Im done with you idiot, i really am. Take some xanax and risperdal. Good night friend

>>739472062
naw, I'm just reffering to the notion that there are "moderate" atheists. What are the others? Militant?^^

If he is referring to the question "gnostic / agnostic", he should just say so, but that still does not hold any reference to "moderate".

>>739471959
I can deal with religious people. I can't deal with stupid. :/

I'm insulting religious fag because of his stupidity, not because I side with the emotionally stunted idiot who claims to be an atheist. Or athiest, as they are known in Idiotville.

>>739471909
You know, being angry while you type out a response clouds your vision, making your point muddled. It also makes people want to ignore your point because they fall into the mindset of "Oh, it's just another ranting asshole. The same I've dealt with in every other thread.".

So, the best thing to do to get your point across is to not be an asshole when typing.

>>739471909
Who hurt you man? I've never met someone that was genuinely hurt by religion. And I mean religion, not an act of man.

so why are atheist fags arguing in an obvious pedo thread? is there something yall are hiding from?

>>739472266
you are on /b/...
any questions?

>>739472266
It was an arguement started by someone explaining how they dealt with their molestation through religion.

i personally find it hilarious that there are christfags on /b/, considering what this place started out as (it seems to have become more justice-ey) why would a "Good god fearing christian" even be here in the first place? thats like a bunch of catholic priests taking part in a satanic blood sacrifice.

>>739472220
But the post that you were insulting him on was a poor one. You've got to learn to pick your battles. Otherwise, you spread yourself too thin and/or aren't taken seriously.

>>739472153
>also religionfags have progressed humanity with major scientific advancements
Only because they limited literacy access to those who swore fealty to their invisible superman.

>>739472406
Curiosity. I used to be agnostic, and a fuckin cringe master. I used to be on here often.

>>739472259
Please don't be dense.

Nowadays all religions are ok, as long as they're not from the ultra orthodox variety and want to erease the church/state divide. Like salafists. Those fuckers need to be exterminated as soon as possible.

>>739472451
Yet you seem that religionfags should be cast aside because they don't swear fealty to science.

Quit lining yourself up to get called a hypocrite. Just realize that you are the same as us, but worshipping science instead of God.

>>739456030
fpbp
also tell us more you dirty slut

>>739472589
I'm not defending anything except my little slice of Christianity.

>>739472406
I came here before i was a Christian. Its a hard habit to stop. I usually go to /pol/. To be fair, i try not to go to porn threads anymore, i just seen that OP was upset so i gave a wittle input

There's some solid advice for op in between this religious debate shitshow that dereailed the thread. I hope op reads it.

>>739472625
That was only my second post in this thread. I don't "swear fealty" to science. I just don't think any being as allegedly powerful as "God" gives a shit about whether or not one insignificant speck among quintillions of life-forms believes or worships them. Any more than say, I would about a bacterium landing on my skin.

>>739472784
Derailed. Fucking phone.

>>739472451
Yeah, go back far enough and everyone was religious. Things may have turned out differently, but without a time machine, or a supercomputer that can accurately account for literally everything, we'll never know.

Saying that religious people contributed to science is like saying that humans contributed to science. It's obvious and doesn't really bring anything to the conversation.

Kind of like those faux intelligence quotes. "Man will never progress until he learns the truth." It's just so obvious, and the fact that people use these lines to show their intelligence saddens me.

>>739464566
>
kill yourself you god believing weeaboo fag piece of shit

>>739468040
Sure, what about all those who think unlike they do? Maybe they should be purged?
Middle English, from Old French eretique, from Medieval Latin haereticus, from Ancient Greek αἱρετιkός (hairetikós, “able to choose, factious”)

>>739472625
i just got here and been reading these, i believe in science, not bible god is real to me but i am spiritual
just wanted to say no one worship science lol there is a place for prayer of anything like that. We dont hope, we know

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>>739462895
hnnnnnnggg i cant contain this boner

>>739472832
And just to be clear, I'm "nominally Buddhist", but I go to the temple if my mom says "oh yeah, it's this bodhisattva's birthday", or if I feel like life has been treating me badly. I also eat meat a lot. I don't really care. I just cannot get into the whole modern christfag mentality of "You MUST go to church on Sunday. You MUST tithe X% of your salary" and so forth. My dad once made a profound statement to my brother in this regard. "You give a lot of your pay to the church, but when you're out of work, do they give you any of it back?

>>739472854
eh go back far enough we are all just buttholes

Met a girl in my school
No one pays attention to her
Skinny as an anorexic, dressed like a truck driver
One day she say she was raped as a kid
Suddenly she has everyone's attention
She is a victim now
Everybody listens to her stories over and over
Never believed that whore

>>739473106
>>739473021
Alright everybody, the indians are here. We all had a good game. Time to go home.

>>739473106
>You give a lot of your pay to the church, but when you're out of work, do they give you any of it back?
Your dad is going to hell anon

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>>739463055
hahaha you got cucked by your father in law
you cant make this shit up

try a child abuse survivors support group
>i went to one and it helped

>>739473143
You don't even have to go that far back. Minutes, maybe?

>>739473194
hey now, which Indian do you mean? I am a bit of one

>>739473284
GRRRR U SAYD GAWD DER IS NO GAWD GRRR ONLY SIENSE GAWDFAG BTFO

>>739473310
thats the joke

>>739473325
are you one of those 1/80 gringo indians?

>>739473385
na pure mutt
put it this way my father a ginger
great grandmother 100% full blown native

>>739473194
Chingchong, actually.

>>739473363
Yeah, I was adding to it. Or trying to, at least.

>>739473270
Reincarnation means we're always coming back to hell.