As a free market capitalist I oppose net neutrality. It regulates

fuck you

>>739367222
Nice trips, comrad

git cucked

Free market capitalism is for the dumbfucks that think we should have to pay to exist. The animals don't pay. The plants don't pay. Why the FUcK should we pay. Necessities should be free. Knowledge free. Clean water free. Clean air free. Food free. Electricity free. Anyone that wants to control the world and nature dead. Anyone that wants to live compatibly with nature free.

>>739367222
Holy trips.

>>739367547
THIS IS A COMMUNISM BREAD NOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg

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>>739366518
>trickle down economics

>>739366518
Faggot kill yourself.

n0

>>739366518
damnit

Psychopaths have infiltrated every high level position in the western world and are corporatizing people out of existence. You want to support that?
The only reason things cost so much is because idiots believe it has to be this way.
You could make 100$ be a dollar and 50$ be 50 cents. Instead of making 500$ a week you'd make 50$ then bring the cost of everything back to the prices in the 50s. It would all still be the same. Mean the same thing. Fuck all. It's just a number to rob you from your time. The dumb part is agreeing to it. The only difference between a 100$ and a dollar is the collective agreement the sheep allow. It's a piece of fucking paper same as on the roll in the washroom but less useful.

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>>739366518

Piss off. Like other utility providers, they ARE monopolies in most locales, and must be regulated as such.

>>739367778

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY5TUiqjyBc

Boop

bitch

>>739366518
jj fish

>>739366518
Does anyone have the original of that webm?

>>739366518
fuck off with that shit, nigger.

>>739368663
<3

good i hope it happens

>>739366518
nigger

is that the mask from payday 2?

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>free market

>>739366518
Foggit kys

>>739366518
Reeeeeee

>>739366518
>It's in our best interest
Speak for yourself cunt

>>739367778
And fuck you too commiefag

>>739366518
FUCK YOU

Nigger

>>739366518
This is a stupid trick to force and down the throats of people so you can have free shit and control people.

This shit JUST finished destroying the family unit because"I have money me fuck your gf and give her free things. I am alffa male"

Saw it all the time and now all women are nasty whores.

>>739366518
ya fucking cunt

>>739366518
fuck

>>739366518
Faggot

>>739366518
UR A GOTDAMN FAGGOT

>>739366518
nig

In some areas, there is only one internet service provider to choose from.

>>739366518
Nah

>>739366518
y'all postin in a troll thread

but I will say there is absolutely no competition for the business of internet customers so your ideals of free market faggotry don't really matter

Welp fuck this thread

>>739366518
Autism

>>739366518
What

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>>739366518
Hey I like payday 2 too!

fuck you

>>739367778
Nils?

G

Fuck me

>>739368327
That's why I only accept goats for payment in my business

I'm free market supporter and i don't oppose net neutrality

>>739366518
Burn alive

>>739366518
Die in a housefire you autistic fucking nigger

>>739366518
eat a dick

>>739366518
kys

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>>739366518
Please for the sake of all of us who support Net Neutrality, kill yourself. Thank you.

Fokof

>>739366518
FUCK ME OKAY FUCK.

>>739369604
Then make your own. Start a co-op.

kys

>>739366518
fuck off cunt

>>739366518
asd

>>739366518
It's in nobody's interest that an ISP can potentially throttle data of a competing service (email ie @comcast.net vs @gmail.com, or streaming services like xfinity vs netflix), in order to strangle them out of business. This creates monopolies. Nice try.

>>739366518
fuck

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>>739366518

fuck

I am replying

>>739371015
No it doesn't. If every provider has its own services because they kill off Netflix then it's the opposite of a monopoly.

>>739366518
The free market cant exist as long as our representatives can be bought.

You're all brainwashed by Google into believing that net neutrality creates more jobs and freedom than it takes away. Google owns YouTube.

>>739371381
That's just part of the free market. If you don't like it then invest in a congressman.

>>739367773
imagine unironically thinking like this

>>739366518
I'm a free market capitalist but more importantly, a realist.
Net providers are the only game in town, and those who would create competition to undercut them when they (ISPs) fuck everyone over do not have the funds to create a company, and if they did, they'd like turn out just like the ones who would be screwing us over with rates once they get a taste of the money.
It's how people work - assume the worst, and likely you'll be right most of the time.
So yes, this is one of the few times the fucking useless government can actually do its fucking job and regulate something to force a level field. The head of the FCC can go fuck himself, and the bribes he's getting from Cox, AT&T, Comcast and the others.

>>739371368
In the immediate, sure. Then what happens? I as Comcast have the ability to throttle Netflix and their access to my customers. And now my customers will start jumping off Netflix and come to me. Do this long enough and you strangle market share.

>>739366518
k

>>739367773
Youre free to live in the woods alone

>>739371879
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btT1T9qpQZWhNlK/giphy.gif

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Well then.

>>739367222
Cunt

>>739371879
Like the cable companies did when they charged per channel package...no. You're not getting how this works

Ok

replied

...

>>739366518
Std

Surely this is bait. No average person could advocate this and even the most naïve business owner would have an idea that this would lead to a bad end result.

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>>739373103
Sip

>>739366518
ISPs are an oligopoly. Due to cost, required expertise, limits of licensing, and special permissions to access public utilities, the barrier to entry into the market can only be overcome through expense beyond the means of almost all citizens or groups of citizens. ISPs are, as a business structure, rather similar to Airlines.

And due to regional isolation and a general attitude of non-compete, most ISPs have something resembling monopolies.

In my area? Time Warner is literally the only high speed internet provider within 50 miles. Sure, I could get satellite, but satellite is unreliable garbage, and the company that offers the satellite is not interested in competing with Time Warner for cable internet provisions.

So given that ISPs function a great deal like monopolies, even if they aren't 'technically' monopolies, they should be either regulated or relegated to a public utility.

>>739372876
ISP controls net access. ISP is also a cable service company.
People go with basic cable and decent internet, and have services like Netflix and Hulu for entertainment instead of movie packages from their ISP/cable provider because the packages are way more expensive than $10 a month.
ISP/Cable providers are now unregulated.
The ISP/Cable provider decides to slow down access to Netflix/Hulu and make them basically unwatchable from slow net speeds in order to promote their cable service by making people buy movie channel packages now.
ISPs can now also charge Netflix and Hulu too in order to give them "premium" bandwidth so people can watch their shows - to which Netflix/Hulu have to pass on those costs to the customers.
Net result - ISP/cable providers get the most money by forcing people to either buy cable channel packages or they get Netflix and Hulu to fork over more cash to keep streaming available, meanwhile Netflix/Hulu is probably making extra in order to pad for the next rate hike from the ISPs and the only person who really gets fucked one way or another is you and me.
Don't be a dumbass, the end result is us getting fucked over by all parties involved.

>>739371999
That's not technically true. If an EPA officer or Forest Ranger or just ANYONE finds you living out in the woods, not paying taxes or supporting the corporate megalith, living in a camp or a house you built yourself without building permits, hunting and foraging without permits, even though you don't in ANY WAY participate in the society that necessitates these permits, you will go to jail.

>>739373320
They're bringing co-ops to bumble fuck Missouri. Same as with power. You just have to get enough people together and form a company...also the use of towers for LTE can bridge gaps

>>739373553
Burning shit to make hot air turn a wheel connected to a magnet and plugging it into the municipal power line is orders of magnitude simpler than assembling a routing center and managing specific data requests from thousands of people quickly and securely.

Go on - you and some buddies set up an ISP. It's functionally a monopoly, so you guys will make bank.

>>739366518
Fag

>>739366518
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>739366518
.

>>739366518
Being pro net neutrality is being against Trump and therefor anti-American

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>>739366518
Shut up pig dog

no pls

>>739366518

"Trickle down economics" has been proven time and time again to not work. But keep using buzzwords you don't understand, friendo :^]

>>739366518
ISPs are regulated monoplies. There is only a certain amount of tier 1 cellular providers due to the physics of the radio spectrum. Don't forget that cell phone companies are also some of the nation's largest internet providers. As such they are common carries and should be regulated as such.
Also the level of control they would have is not simply that Netflix runs very slowly, it might not run at all. Cell phone companies have in the past tried to block certain apps completely. With this change both cell providers and wired ISPs would be allowed to completely blocked any site or any page they felt like.
Imagine not being able to access /b/ at all, but instead be redirected to Reddit and there not even being an internet service tier that offered /b/.
That's a little extreme but it would be entirely their choic, they would be allowed to do it if they wanted to.

You son of a bitch

>>739366518
lol

yea

>>739366518
ass

>>739366518
>net neutrality regulates internet providers
kek

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>>739374405

pets aint dyin tonight bitch

>>739366518
Fuck yeah, chaos is a system

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If you guys actually believe he's serious, i've got news for ya

>>739366518
>poorfags cant afford premium intranet

>>739366518
This assumes there is much of a choice in isp in every city and that's not true. In a lot of cities, the infrastructure and market is dominated by one company.

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>>739366518
Stop.

>>739366518
Faggot

>>739366518
But internet providers often operate as monopolies, or near monopolies due to the high cost of entering the market.

>>739374900
Yeah. It's called editorial discretion. Why should I allow you to do evil things with my companies service?

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>>739373310
Yfw this is the actual argument that's made by this guy. The head of the FCC. Thank you based Trump.

fu

SeX

"If net neutrality went into effect, then the government would have to monitor the telecoms' and cable companies' broadband connections. Writing in Forbes, entrepreneur Joshua Steimie warned, "Don’t be surprised if that means the government needs to be able to install its own hardware and software at critical points to monitor Internet traffic. Once installed, can we trust this government, or any government, to use that access in a benign fashion?"

So it's also a backdoor for the government. Keep the government out of the internet. Support killing net neutrality.

>>739367222
Trips dont lie... Fuck off OP. Fucking troll.

But Breitbart says it's bad. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/11/10/7-reasons-net-neutrality/

Everything else is fake news.

>>739366518
lel

>>739378590
This administration is killing it. This is what America voted for. Deal with it. Whiney liberal brats. The internet isn't your personal property. The companies have the right to do with it as they wish. It's a first amendment right. Editorial discretion. You can't force someone else to allow your opinion to be stated through them. If they want to block /b/ it's their right.

>>739366518
allawho

dubs and OP dies in his sleep tonight

>>739379856
No such luck. Cuck.

Dubs and your internet provider gets to charge you more for access to /b/.

>>739366518
He

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>>739370751

Fuck off

>>739366518

Everything is propaganda bot anymore. Russia proved it can can be weaponized, American oligarchs were quick to pick it up.

To be honest, net neutrality probably should go and I hope it destroys the internet. It's nothing but propaganda tool now used to gain power and wealth for those already powerful and wealthy.

>>739380379
kek..How long did it take you to make anon

>>739373436
Buy land first you fucking savage, quasi-human.

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>>739380698
I already had it made. And it still took like 10mins.

>>739366518
Oh. Ok...

So... you don't really understand how the internet works, do you? You just finished reading your summer school lesson on the Cold War... and decided to edgelord post on a site that half the IP's would love to do away with because fox said we are the ddos lords of the internet... which ironically is why you're here, as well.

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>>739380879
Just keep making it worse lol

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>>739380948
No. I'm just stating the actual argument being made by the companies and the head of the FCC. I'm trolling with conservative logic. It's funny how you get mad when I do it but still support the administration when it does. You've all become so partisan that you let this happen.

I won't take the risk. Rather reply

>>739366518
Fucking tool. Most broadband providers in the US are unregulated monopolies. Municipalities are allowed to sign exclusivity contracts with providers to lock out competition. There is no free market. Fucking idiot.

>>739381322
Wait. You're saying the trickle down economics comment didn't give away my sarcasm? What about the picture? Also the invisible hand reference... Oh come on.
What should depressing you is that this is one of the main arguments made by the companies. Editorial discretion and free market politics.

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>>739366518
(you)

>>739366518
Reported.

>>739381639
(You)

>>739366518
gay

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>>739381782
For?

travels through a Penney

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>>739381782
Let the butt hurt flow

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>>739381040
Yea

>>739366518
SHILL DETECTED
>implying ISPs don't have a cartel set up
>implying everyone's bill won't go up

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>>739381040
Also I made this. So feel free to use them.

>>739366518
fu77777777777777777reyhr8e

remove this

I hope you have 2 beautiful children that get cancer

>>739366518
123

>>739383761
Democrat detected. The left are such nasty fucks.

>>739366518
no way

>>739383761
You aren't a very nice person my dude, leftists usually aren't.

>>739383980
Gai kakhen off"n yahm

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>>739382745
Perfect now do this one and you'll never hear from me again >>739381040

>>739366518
whats that p2p program called where i can download young girl porn?

>>739366518
God dammit

>>739383761
Give credit where credit is due cunt

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>>739366518
fgt lol

>>739379320
Because there's so much choice...

Unless you live in a major city, you'll have maybe 2 options if you're lucky.

And if you're really lucky then google will be there with fiber service to make it an actual competition.

fuuuuuuuuu

>>739366518
He bu6

>>739384832
Doggo died from obesity. He can't save you now.

>>739366518
Suck a massive rhino cock

>>739366518
>Why should I have to pay more for a service I don't use?
You mean, why should you pay for a service you DO use? Because ISPs will increase charges on everything, not decrease, especially if you use it.

>>739366518
You need to preface such statements with "Please be patient, I have autism".

u uglsy

>>739366518
How much are you getting paid to make these posts?

>>739366518
aye

>>739380814
BUY? from who? why is there no free land to live on? why do I gotta pay for it? I can enjoy my life without the luxuries tax dollars and capitalism brings and am capable of survival, would much rather live like this but I'm not allowed. I'm not allowed. like some fucking child who wants to play out but their grounded. I'm not fucking allowed. our government parents have fucking grounded us like little kids and your lapping it up like a good boy, here's some pocket money.
the rat race depresses me. I'm extraordinarily good at progressing through it and I can manipulate it to my benefit but I fucking hate it and feel like a fraction of a man because I'm being emasculated by society and said rat race.
I want to be free, I'm sick of this prison. I would give literally anything to be free to be a man, hunt, survive, explore.

>>739370808
Do you understand that large internet service providers have specifically made that next to impossible and actually impossible over large sections of the United states?

>>739366518
Fucking kike tricks

>>739366518
mada mada

>>739384758
OP here. At home I have Google fiber. I'm from Kansas City. My choices were at&t fiber, Google fiber, spectrum, Verizon, Cox and so on.

It was trolling though. I wanted to see your reaction to the main arguments against it. Minus the one about cost to the company. I covered the government intrusion argument, the first amendment argument, consumer choice, and price. When phrased less delicately it's pretty absurd. Still it's going to happen. They may pass a law against the outright blocking of sites but don't expect more. You're going to have to pay more or use proprietary services bundled into your bill. You're not escaping this. This is what happens when you vote for the far right. "deregulation". Later I'll make a thread about chlorpyrifos. The other thing they're "deregulating" immediately before rules were set to set in. I suppose it's so we have another generation of brawndo republicans.

>>739373436
Yeah, try doing it somewhere that isn't the United States or other claimed land. If you are in claimed lands you Indirectly revive and or have access to the benefits guaranteed to the citizens of that society. Such as military and police protection. If you built your own hermit hut in the mountains and someone came out and killed you, the government would still charge that guy with murder.

>>739374113
That's not true at all, I love my country and truly want the best for my fellow citizens and I disagree with Trump frequently. >>739374235

>>739386288
Yeah right. Globalist shill.

fuck you

>>739378399
That's complete bullshit though, there is no truth to that at all. I understand that you're trolling but there actually people out there stupid enough to trust what you say. Do you really want to deal with the results of this?

>>739374113

Trump is anti-American; thus being against him is patriotic.

>>739378915
This isn't what America voted for, the vast majority of Americans want net neutrality.

>>739380493
That's all it will be and it will cost more whole being shittier.

>>739366518

Found the faggot.

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>>739366518
>trickle down economics
lmfao

>>739386819
But you voted for "deregulation ". It's like you don't research before voting in primaries

>>739367773

Free in price means indentured servitude. Free in cost means none of these things you want exist at all.

>>739366518
3/10. Nice copypasta, though.

>>739385644
You can, leaving society is difficult but it can be done. The problem is that you don't want to, you want to go out in the woods on land that is claimed by the country you live in, on land where their laws apply to you and their benefits are yours to access.

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>>739366518
I smell a jew shill

xd

>>739366518
Shit

>>739366518
op is a fag

>>739366518
>As a free market capitalist

Stopped reading after this tbh.

>>739387162
Nope. Didn't do that at all actually. Not a retard.