For those of you that work in IT or have a tech job, are you worried about what will happen with net neutrality? My current major is cybersecurity and I am getting anxious about whether or not I should change majors because of this shit. So for those working in IT or a related field, are you worried?
>>739287171 I work as an internet specialist and I am extremly worried. The government doesnt seem to understand that some of us cant afford to see every movie on in the cinema or buy every game that comes out. This will ruin the lower and middle class and the upper class wont even notice.
>>739289245 >>739289331 You will have a job. This takes the internet closer to the though-police idea. Government will declare certain things "fake news" that's actually real news covered up. NN will bring gov't censorship of ideas.
>>739289812 Private sector/business will need your skill set. People are panicking about a fake story of someone's 1's and 0's being throttled when there is no evidence any of that has ever happened (with the exception of BitTorrent streams back in the day).
i rly doub this gone pass now the thing is this law is not against the normal ppl it pins corporations vs corporations and by the fuss that is making im sure there is big money on both sides there were laws that restricted internet and litterly nobody gave 2 cents you guys realise that laws that ppl protested against like 2-3 years ago eventually passed in both us and eu but nothing rly changed
>>739289331 >jobless that's your future not my present if you think the govt's idea of "net neutrality" (how much did it cost to coin that spin phrase?)- and whether it passes or not will affect your IT marketability, you're a fucking moron.
>>739290719 You wanna know why this bothers me? Because Trump's FCC head is some fucking poo in loo bastard who thinks he understands the Internet. Just some idiot that was appointed to the commission. Like every idiot he picked.
>>739289514 Of course there was net neutrality before 2015. It was enforced by the marketplace. The problem is not net neutrality amerifucks. So don`t support a 500+ page long document of legislation you arent going to read.
The problem is equal possibility to take positions in the ISP market. Have you heard of the small town where the locals wanted to get fiber and the ISP didnt provide? They tried to make their own ISP. Guess what this ISP bought their local politicians and made their digging illegal.
Your crony-capitalism is the disease. free markets are the solution.
The ISP was Comcast. Whom you also gave a shit ton of tax money to for upgrades of the internet because of their monopolistic position.
>>739291129 >hurr you don't know what "net neutrality" is the principle that Internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of the source, and without favoring or blocking particular products or websites.
>don't know how government works Big Cable wants to be like Big Pharma and so on and so forth. I wasn't born yesterday, summerfag
>don't know how business works That's why I studied it for years. Studied finance, real estate, and business. How about you?
>>739291168 I'm Irish, you faggot. Might wanna grow up and meet the age requirements for being here.
>>739290868 >Trump's FCC head is some fucking poo in loo bastard -proving you're an armchair warrior, mindless parrot -compensating for your lack of education with infantile assumptions about those you know nothing about; concepts you cannot grasp
>>739287171 Sure are a lot of ISP shills in this thread. Or fucktards. Lemme break it down for ya bitches.
1. The government already created a duopoly when the internet first started becoming a thing. This change won't give the government any less control than they've already had, it will just allow ISPs to dick you over more. 2. It won't pit companies against each other, it will just cement the ones who already have big pockets. By creating a 'fast lane' (which anyone with any networking experience will tell you already exists and everyone is using it) and charging for it, startup sites will have less of a chance to compete with larger sites. For example, someone creates a better youtube or facebook. Like, far better. Everything you've ever wanted from both sites is included in the new ones. But the site owners can't afford not to have their service throttled (that's how 'fast lanes' are made, by slowing everyone else down) so those sites are slower to load up than Facebook and YouTube. So it's a death blow for small online business. 3. Before 2015 Comcast and Verizon were already trying this shit out on Netflix. That's what led to Net Neutrality in the first place. Pic very fucking related. 4. The government already controls the Internet's infrastructure and contracts it out to ISPs. Changing from title 2 to title 1 won't change that. All it will do is allow your ISP to sell what info they gather on you (to the government btw) and allow your ISP to throttle connection speeds until somebody pays them not to. Then they unthrottle that somebody. 5. Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, and CenturyLink do not compete with each other. They didn't before 2015, they haven't started now, and they won't start ever. They are a duopoly, meaning they don't try to harm each other's business
Wake the fuck up. Don't listen to the corporate shills saying it's gonna be okay. They're looking to bone you just as much as the government is. Hell, they'd like to BE the government.
>>739291919 >Lemme break it down for ya bitches anon post narrative attempt laden with assumptions, subjective interpretations, false constructs. speaking "your language" to try to get rapport. you're the shill.
>>739291928 >>739292080 I'm thinking of buying the Ultimate Internet package. I know the best ways to skirt the 22GB cap. That's the best value. Don't be fooled by the "custom internet" economy package. You need preferred or better in order to mimic that old "unlimited" feel.
>>739292370 >He thinks the gov't has our best interests at heart and won't do anything remotely resembling corruption, censorship or mishandling. anon your naive ideas about govt evince your lack of meaningful participation in govt
>>739287171 >Cyber Security major I'm a Computer Science major and I'm double majoring in Cyber Security. Don't worry OP, if you watch the news everyday you will be rest assured that Cyber Security related jobs are going to be needed. In 2016 there was over 1 million jobs related to cyber security(according to forbes), and there arent enough bodies to fill them. Just look at the election news that won't go away. "Russian Hackers" wether you choose to beileve it or not, people will want to defend agaisnt that kind of shit. That's job security, my nigga. It's also becoming more evident that the DoD may open a new branch in the military for Cyber defense, or even if they don't there are jobs in the Navy, Air Force, and DoD for that shit that they need people.
Source: I've written numerous papers on this shit for uni, and have looked at the info a lot.
>>739287171 Don't change majors but be sure to focus on application development regardless of what your end focus is in infosec.
I imagine the new act of passed will harm the average consume first leaving business level services untouched. After a few years ISPs will offer an expensive plan that will offer the previously untouched service and pitch a somewhat filtered service under the premise of better data management.
This is to get more money out of larger company's as they may be too big to adapt and pitch data management and security to small and mid ranges company's who may not have the budget to address these issues.
Honestly the biggest problem I see with it is the lack of competition we currently have. In my are there's maybe one or two ISP's. This would basically screw over small towns and rural areas by giving those ISP's a monopoly.
It's about keeping the internet as it has been and as it should be. The reason we are here now. If giant corporations get their way, it's going to be like>>739291928 (Obviously quite believable scenario)
>>739292080 >>739292536 >>739292627 Guys if you go to Verizons Fios website their plans make no mention of accessing certain webpages. That picture is something that could happen but it isn't how they're doing it now.
>>739292756 >This would basically screw over small towns and rural areas by giving those ISP's a monopoly. They already do. By law, the internet provider for an area is whomever owns the cable lines. You won't see two providers for the same area unless it's a different type of line like fiber optic.
>>739292838 Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia. What I'm planning to do is joining after uni, become an officer in the navy under cyber security, get a ton of military experience, and go to a private sector like a PMC and make a 6 figure salary easy.
>>739293116 >impying its not already happening? You do know they throttle the internet when you have unlimited data right? To prevent you from using too much so they alow it down. You may get some pages that are fast but others are really slow.
>>739292838 >finally you fucks couldn't parse responses for accuracy if your tendies depended on it. >studying cyber security maybe- but i hope you realize that one doesn't simply "study cyber security" at some tech school and become a IT security expert. IT sec is a multidisciplinary profession that requires several lines of education and experience.
>>739293247 Right, I'm aware of that as well as many others are. If I needed to use my data and my phone as a hotspot for my laptop, I could with no problem. I rarely ever use my data unless I'm away from a wifi hotspot.
>>739293148 It's a no brainer as to how mandatory internet access is. It should be a public fucking utility. I dislike the gummint as much as anyone but Comcast and Verizon getting their way? Fuck that. They're worse.
>>739293349 Well, junior, I am studying Computer and Network Security. It's a real thing. You clearly know nothing of what you're talking about. I'm not at a tech school either. I'm at a private, non-profit doctoral research institution. Sorry to burst your cum bubble, queer.
>>739293238 The military is the way to go, my man. They pay for fucking everything. And pitting down that you served on other resumes doesnt hurt either. People are more inclined to hire veterans than others. Mostly for the experience. Even if you dont want to do the 20 years you can do the 4 or 6 depending on the contract and get out and you could get another job pretty easily. I know one girl who didnt even go to college and did cyber security in the Air Force, and got a 5 year contract from a PMC offering $117k a year because of her experience.
>>739287171 working on M.S. in information assurance. net neutrality won't change much. you are obviously not going to succeed in that field if you think something as lame as net neutrality is going to render it obsolete, so yeah. switch majors to something where you won't be in charge of anything important.
>>739293550 >People are more inclined to hire veterans than others. Only if the military taught you a real skill. If you're a jarhead who slung a rifle around in some desert shithole nobody cares about you.
>>739293370 >They're worse i seem to recall AL GORE CLIPPER CHIP compare govt auth with private biz auth: govt can take everything away from you- including removing or censoring your prized internet access- and you won't be able to do shit- or go to any 'competition' for relief either.
>>739293667 Yeah, do it after uni. You'd have to go to OCS, but just to teach you what the military is. And to give you some advice, if you do it, when you get in dont just start barking orders and shit or correcting enlistedmen on what theyre doing is wrong. Listen to the enlistedmen, they know what theyre doing and the by the book way isnt always the best way. My dad was enlisted and he made me promise that I would do that, but in telling you just for some advice.
>>739293986 >They pretend to "something isn't what it objectively presents as, it's what i say it is" sure anon your narrative is fail >sell your shit to the government hahahah! the govt has the line clamped, you stupid motherfucker. they have it all.
>>739294166 The fatter you are the easier it is to loose the weight quickly. Its when you hit a certain weight you plateau and cant loose anymore. Trust me I used to weigh 265, and I got down to 200 in about 7 months? I can't remeber how long its been. Besides pretty much all of /fit is fatasses asking for help
>>739294667 It's not an insult, it's a statement of fact. If you think that regulation that requires ISPs to treat all internet traffic equally the exact same way that phone providers have been required to do so for years is government control you are a simpleton. I say that not out of malice but as a statement of fact.
No, it's a US problem. The rest of the world couldn't follow you even if everyone went completely insane because cable companies are usually separate from ISPs and there's a backlog of rules against it violating net neutrality.
Why are so many IT geeks so naive about technology?
>>739292623 Do you have no sense of historical context or any idea where most shady govts in 1st world economies gain incentive to take bribes, kickbacks & shill for corporations in the first place? Incentive for govt corruption is rooted in money–or reelection power, in which case plenty of money's needed from those who have it. In conditions of the past 40 years–w/ economic superpower monopolies racing to choke that totally free market you types espouse–congressmen have found that incentive; see: Goldman Sachs, Duke Energy, Monsanto, any top 10 pharma company, AT&T, Verizon, & Comcast. Example: Marsha Blackburn reps a house district in the SW corner of my state & she's exactly the type of politician you're describing. I've numerous friends living just east of Memphis. They ALL tell me how shitty internet & other utilities have gotten these past 4-5 years while other places get fiber. Her .gov frontpage says, "Marsha Blackburn believes that free markets are the best markets. She knows that the Federal Government cannot intervene in the market without fault," among other greatest hits. She's a "small govt, free market republican" through & through. Guess who were among her top 12 donors during 2016's republican midterm sweep? Charter Comm, Verizon Wireless, Comcast & AT&T. I'm sure those companies have 0 to do w/ her shitty legislation though! Oh hey–she also happens to be the brand new chair of the House Subcommittee on Communications & Technology. She sponsored the infamous "Internet Freedom Act"–was one of the govt's leading SOPA supporters & publicly stated internet/phone companies should reserve the right to censor any info posted through their networks if they deem it "fake news." Believe me, there are MANY more like her. They all have one thing in common: free-market-killing companies up their asses. The garbage happening w/ net neutrality is what kleptocracies & oligarchies are made of. If >>739292370 is naive, then you're naive^2 my sad friend.
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