For those of you that work in IT or have a tech job, are you

>>739287171
no
you dumb motherfucker
try thinking for youself

Not worried. IT wil continue for businesses and consumer. There will be work.

>>739287171
If you really think the government has your best interest at heart, you should def switch majors, perhaps to women's studies.

>>739287171
I work as an internet specialist and I am extremly worried.
The government doesnt seem to understand that some of us cant afford to see every movie on in the cinema or buy every game that comes out. This will ruin the lower and middle class and the upper class wont even notice.

>>739288963
>internet specialist
lmfao

>>739289067
>>739288963
Meme specialist

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>>739287171
Giving government more control of the internet? What could go wrong? /s

I'm a meme specialist and I'm deeply offended. Don't use my profession as an insult.

>>739288594
>jobless retard detected

>>739288820
Never thought that they did. I just don't want to start a degree that will lead me to nowhere. Also not a woman.

>>739288658
You truly believe that?

>>739289245
Might as well Trump enter the Matrix.

>>739289245
HN?

>>739289245
how about giving you more control of the government? Government is not a bogeyman from space, it always serves someone's interests

>>739289423
So just let Big Cable tell us what we can and cannot do on the Interwebs? Fuck that. We're not the Norks.

there was no enforced "net neutrality" prior to 2015

so the internet will be like it was before 2015.

>>739289514
[citation needed]

>>739289245
>>739289331
You will have a job. This takes the internet closer to the though-police idea. Government will declare certain things "fake news" that's actually real news covered up. NN will bring gov't censorship of ideas.

>>739289667
I hope you're right, anon. Because I could switch majors right over the phone. Study something neutral like business. And let everyone have a panic attack about this bullshit.

>>739287171
Lol you sound retarded.

>>739289887
>ad hominem attack without any argument or debate

Sure it isn't you?

>>739289812
Private sector/business will need your skill set.
People are panicking about a fake story of someone's 1's and 0's being throttled when there is no evidence any of that has ever happened (with the exception of BitTorrent streams back in the day).

>>739290194
You've got a point there, anon. Thank you.

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i rly doub this gone pass
now the thing is this law is not against the normal ppl
it pins corporations vs corporations
and by the fuss that is making im sure there is big money on both sides
there were laws that restricted internet and litterly nobody gave 2 cents
you guys realise that laws that ppl protested against like 2-3 years ago eventually passed in both us and eu but nothing rly changed

>>739289331
>jobless
that's your future
not my present
if you think the govt's idea of "net neutrality" (how much did it cost to coin that spin phrase?)- and whether it passes or not will affect your IT marketability, you're a fucking moron.

>>739290485
My marketability is pretty fucking high because upon graduation, it would be on the cusp of an election year and that cheeto in chief would be getting voted out.

>>739289992
nah anon is correct
OP is either a baiting moron or a moron moron with zero business in any IT field

>>739290631
But what business do you have telling a cybersecurity major that he's a moron? What are you? What did you study if anything? Memes?

>>739290609
relevance? zero
fucking moron confirmed again
learn to argue

>>739290631
>>739290719
Aww spotted the samefag. Shut up, faggot.

>>739290711
all the /business
gtfo moron

>>739290609
Christ you are dumber than a bag of nigger fetuses

>>739290719
You wanna know why this bothers me? Because Trump's FCC head is some fucking poo in loo bastard who thinks he understands the Internet. Just some idiot that was appointed to the commission. Like every idiot he picked.

>>739290829
>>739290855
Again with the samefagging. You think I can't check that shit?

>>739290772
fucking moron
pay some special interest group to coin a phrase that describes your desperate flailing serial linguistic failures

>>739290907
You obviously fucking cant, hammerhead

>>739290907
learn to law
learn to IT
learn to learn

>>739290952
Pay your mother to take you to a specialist and get tested for autism, you legitimate fucking retard.

>>739291020
Goddamn why does /b/ know honestly nothing about anything?

>>739290907
lol sad cunt
you don't know what "net neutrality" is. you don't know IT. you don't know how govt works. you don't know how business works. kys

not that worried - if anything will just make more people flock to VPN/tor services right?

>>739289514
Of course there was net neutrality before 2015. It was enforced by the marketplace. The problem is not net neutrality amerifucks. So don`t support a 500+ page long document of legislation you arent going to read.

The problem is equal possibility to take positions in the ISP market. Have you heard of the small town where the locals wanted to get fiber and the ISP didnt provide? They tried to make their own ISP. Guess what this ISP bought their local politicians and made their digging illegal.

Your crony-capitalism is the disease. free markets are the solution.

The ISP was Comcast. Whom you also gave a shit ton of tax money to for upgrades of the internet because of their monopolistic position.

>>739291042
get baited harder you sorry ignorant shitstain

>>739291077
not /b
you
ya sorry twit

>>739291129
>hurr you don't know what "net neutrality" is
the principle that Internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of the source, and without favoring or blocking particular products or websites.

>don't know how government works
Big Cable wants to be like Big Pharma and so on and so forth. I wasn't born yesterday, summerfag

>don't know how business works
That's why I studied it for years. Studied finance, real estate, and business. How about you?

>>739291168
I'm Irish, you faggot. Might wanna grow up and meet the age requirements for being here.

>>739291152
This.

>>739290868
>Trump's FCC head is some fucking poo in loo bastard
-proving you're an armchair warrior, mindless parrot
-compensating for your lack of education with infantile assumptions about those you know nothing about; concepts you cannot grasp

>>739291486
>>739291486
>can't greentext properly
kys preteen fuckboy. I agree with OP.

>>739291422
-your stated understanding:
WOW
you're lost, little girl

ever made law?
no, you haven't

ever conceive of and create entire cc settlement/processing system that processes billions of trans/day?
no

stfu you fucking pretend shill

>>739291608
keep trying
you couldn't sniff my dev logs, cunt

>>739291665
>reddit spacing

Kill yourself, bro.

>>739291748
your best is pathos
good luck in the job mkt
better pray someone with actual knowledge experience doesn't interview you

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>>739287171
Sure are a lot of ISP shills in this thread. Or fucktards. Lemme break it down for ya bitches.

1. The government already created a duopoly when the internet first started becoming a thing. This change won't give the government any less control than they've already had, it will just allow ISPs to dick you over more.
2. It won't pit companies against each other, it will just cement the ones who already have big pockets. By creating a 'fast lane' (which anyone with any networking experience will tell you already exists and everyone is using it) and charging for it, startup sites will have less of a chance to compete with larger sites. For example, someone creates a better youtube or facebook. Like, far better. Everything you've ever wanted from both sites is included in the new ones. But the site owners can't afford not to have their service throttled (that's how 'fast lanes' are made, by slowing everyone else down) so those sites are slower to load up than Facebook and YouTube. So it's a death blow for small online business.
3. Before 2015 Comcast and Verizon were already trying this shit out on Netflix. That's what led to Net Neutrality in the first place. Pic very fucking related.
4. The government already controls the Internet's infrastructure and contracts it out to ISPs. Changing from title 2 to title 1 won't change that. All it will do is allow your ISP to sell what info they gather on you (to the government btw) and allow your ISP to throttle connection speeds until somebody pays them not to. Then they unthrottle that somebody.
5. Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, and CenturyLink do not compete with each other. They didn't before 2015, they haven't started now, and they won't start ever. They are a duopoly, meaning they don't try to harm each other's business

Wake the fuck up. Don't listen to the corporate shills saying it's gonna be okay. They're looking to bone you just as much as the government is. Hell, they'd like to BE the government.

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>>739290194
This is all the evidence I need

>>739291884
Nigger, speak fucking English

>>739291928
How recent is that?

>>739291919
>Lemme break it down for ya bitches
anon post narrative attempt laden with assumptions, subjective interpretations, false constructs. speaking "your language" to try to get rapport. you're the shill.

>>739291919
Trumptards can't handle it.

>>739292018
understand english better

>>739291919
tl;dr

Don't support the FCC here. They've got a literal shill for a leader.

>>739292238
proclaim those self-proclaimed proclamations

>>739288820
>He thinks large corporations have our interests at heart more than our elected officials who ultimately answer to us.

>>739292333
>tl;dr
yes don't read- fuck don't even think- just parrot.

>>739289245
>Giving government more control of the internet?
You have a simpletons understanding of what net neutrality is.

>>739292259
I understand English very well unlike you who likely has it as your second language.

>>739291928
>>739292080
I'm thinking of buying the Ultimate Internet package. I know the best ways to skirt the 22GB cap. That's the best value. Don't be fooled by the "custom internet" economy package. You need preferred or better in order to mimic that old "unlimited" feel.

>>739292154
>subjective interpretations
>assumptions
>rapport

Lame attempt at deflection. Shill spotted.

>>739291928
Fuckkkk

>>739292370
>He thinks the gov't has our best interests at heart and won't do anything remotely resembling corruption, censorship or mishandling.
anon your naive ideas about govt evince your lack of meaningful participation in govt

>>739292536
Shit, I've got unlimited 4G LTE with my cell provider. If FiOs wants to be dicks, they can and I'll just use my fucking phone.

>>739287171
>Cyber Security major
I'm a Computer Science major and I'm double majoring in Cyber Security. Don't worry OP, if you watch the news everyday you will be rest assured that Cyber Security related jobs are going to be needed. In 2016 there was over 1 million jobs related to cyber security(according to forbes), and there arent enough bodies to fill them. Just look at the election news that won't go away. "Russian Hackers" wether you choose to beileve it or not, people will want to defend agaisnt that kind of shit. That's job security, my nigga. It's also becoming more evident that the DoD may open a new branch in the military for Cyber defense, or even if they don't there are jobs in the Navy, Air Force, and DoD for that shit that they need people.


Source: I've written numerous papers on this shit for uni, and have looked at the info a lot.

>>739292447
prove it- read simple english for comprehension- end your failed red herring language beef.

>>739292623
>thinking our government does corrupt things for corruptions sake and not because some rich asshole donated to their campaign

>>739291928
Lower middle class (even some middle class) are screwed if this becomes more common. Thing is, in the long run does this benefit ISPs?

>>739292333
Check 'em btw.

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>>739287171
Don't change majors but be sure to focus on application development regardless of what your end focus is in infosec.

I imagine the new act of passed will harm the average consume first leaving business level services untouched. After a few years ISPs will offer an expensive plan that will offer the previously untouched service and pitch a somewhat filtered service under the premise of better data management.

This is to get more money out of larger company's as they may be too big to adapt and pitch data management and security to small and mid ranges company's who may not have the budget to address these issues.

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Honestly the biggest problem I see with it is the lack of competition we currently have.
In my are there's maybe one or two ISP's.
This would basically screw over small towns and rural areas by giving those ISP's a monopoly.

>>739287171
>>739287171
It's not about "government control".

It's about keeping the internet as it has been and as it should be. The reason we are here now. If giant corporations get their way, it's going to be like>>739291928
(Obviously quite believable scenario)

>>739292080
>>739292536
>>739292627
Guys if you go to Verizons Fios website their plans make no mention of accessing certain webpages. That picture is something that could happen but it isn't how they're doing it now.

>>739292683
Finally someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about. Where are you studying CyberSec at? I'm on the East Coast. Would probably have to move closer to D.C. or MD once I finish.

>>739292699
>corruption
your ideas about corruption seem rather stunted.
you should try making law.
you prove time and again that you know nothing about govt corruption.

>>739292695
Your grammar is absolutely fucking atrocious.

>>739292756
>This would basically screw over small towns and rural areas by giving those ISP's a monopoly.
They already do. By law, the internet provider for an area is whomever owns the cable lines. You won't see two providers for the same area unless it's a different type of line like fiber optic.

>>739292704
This is their wet fucking dream.
Treating your internet like a cellular data plan.

>>739292866
Are you being intentionally dense or does it come naturally?

>>739292918
Yep.

>>739292786
Typical American dumbass

Kek

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>>739292627
>He thinks the cell phone companies don't use regular internet and won't cancel your unlimited plans.

>>739292838
Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia. What I'm planning to do is joining after uni, become an officer in the navy under cyber security, get a ton of military experience, and go to a private sector like a PMC and make a 6 figure salary easy.

>>739292786
Yeah come on guys

>>739293071
I've got T-Mobile. Let them try, faggot.

>>739292704
Yes. Internet is rapidly becoming (if not already is) an actual utility like power or water. There are jobs that you absolutely cannot apply for without Internet access.

People need the internet. They will pay for it just like they pay for power or phone service.

>>739293073
Ahh. I'm at WilmU in Delaware. I was also thinking of going the officer route. Would probably go Navy since my grandfather was high up in the Navy and my uncle was a Marine.

>>739293116
>impying its not already happening?
You do know they throttle the internet when you have unlimited data right? To prevent you from using too much so they alow it down. You may get some pages that are fast but others are really slow.

>>739292838
>finally
you fucks couldn't parse responses for accuracy if your tendies depended on it.
>studying cyber security
maybe- but i hope you realize that one doesn't simply "study cyber security" at some tech school and become a IT security expert. IT sec is a multidisciplinary profession that requires several lines of education and experience.

>>739293247
Right, I'm aware of that as well as many others are. If I needed to use my data and my phone as a hotspot for my laptop, I could with no problem. I rarely ever use my data unless I'm away from a wifi hotspot.

>>739293148
It's a no brainer as to how mandatory internet access is. It should be a public fucking utility. I dislike the gummint as much as anyone but Comcast and Verizon getting their way? Fuck that. They're worse.

>>739292870
your efforts at misdirection are pathetic

>>739293349
Well, junior, I am studying Computer and Network Security. It's a real thing. You clearly know nothing of what you're talking about. I'm not at a tech school either. I'm at a private, non-profit doctoral research institution. Sorry to burst your cum bubble, queer.

>>739293238
The military is the way to go, my man. They pay for fucking everything. And pitting down that you served on other resumes doesnt hurt either. People are more inclined to hire veterans than others. Mostly for the experience. Even if you dont want to do the 20 years you can do the 4 or 6 depending on the contract and get out and you could get another job pretty easily. I know one girl who didnt even go to college and did cyber security in the Air Force, and got a 5 year contract from a PMC offering $117k a year because of her experience.

>>739292918
We'll I for one think they have our best interest in mind. I wouldn't have paid thousands of dollars toward their fine company if I didn't think that

>>739293437
Good enough that you didn't notice him stealing your wallet and fucking your mom.

>>739287171
working on M.S. in information assurance. net neutrality won't change much. you are obviously not going to succeed in that field if you think something as lame as net neutrality is going to render it obsolete, so yeah. switch majors to something where you won't be in charge of anything important.

I hope somebody goes to the home of the new FCC head and cuts the throats of his wife and children. See how he likes it when someone messes with things he cares about.

>>739293349
Thats why I'm also majoring in Computer Science so I don't limit myself to one field and woulx put me at an adavantage over other prospects in the same field.

>>739293550
>People are more inclined to hire veterans than others.
Only if the military taught you a real skill. If you're a jarhead who slung a rifle around in some desert shithole nobody cares about you.

>>739293550
Fucking Socialist

:-D

>>739293550
I would have to do it after college. I wouldn't want to start out not being an officer in the military. Also, I wouldn't qualify fitness wise right now.

>>739293370
>They're worse
i seem to recall
AL GORE
CLIPPER CHIP
compare govt auth with private biz auth:
govt can take everything away from you- including removing or censoring your prized internet access- and you won't be able to do shit- or go to any 'competition' for relief either.

>>739293574
Shut the fuck up, you moron. Information Assurance? At what college/university? You're getting a Masters for practically no reason.

>>739293564
more infantile banter

>>739293630
The Marines are retards. They don't focus on anything that takes intellect.

>>739293671
Learn to grammar, samefag.
That's not what this debate is about.
It really isn't.

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>>739293745
Do you get paid to shitpost?

>>739293758
>The Marines are retards.
So obvious a statement that you might as well be pointing out how wet water is.

>>739293829
Well at least we agree.

>>739293667
I would t be so sure about that, bud. Let's see your abs. Give us a full frontal shot.

>>739293812
it's whatever we post about, would-be dicta-cunt
>grammar
you're pathetic

>>739293641
Kek

>>739293630
Well yeah, thats a given.

>>739293667
Yeah, do it after uni. You'd have to go to OCS, but just to teach you what the military is. And to give you some advice, if you do it, when you get in dont just start barking orders and shit or correcting enlistedmen on what theyre doing is wrong. Listen to the enlistedmen, they know what theyre doing and the by the book way isnt always the best way. My dad was enlisted and he made me promise that I would do that, but in telling you just for some advice.

>>739293822
do you? hypocrite crybaby

>>739293671
>go to any 'competition' for relief

They don't compete with each other. They pretend to. And an ISP will sell your shit to the government just as easily as the gov would take it.

>>739293906
I wanna get the VSG so that within these next four years, I'd definitely be in military shape.

>>739293921
The debate is about the giant companies who own the internet in America attempting to clamp even further down on it.

>>739293981
Yeah I know. Already have looked into it. I'll be in my early 30s by the time I hit that stage in my life.

>>739294036
Just go to /fit read the sticky and get to work. That's what I did.

>>739293812
>That's not what this debate is about.
-not be able to respond
-try to redefine the argument
be more transparent and worthless, please

>>739294036
Mmmm sounds good. I think you'll like my throat work

>>739294116
>read sticky
>/fit/

You clearly underestimate how big of a man I am.

>>739294120
See
>>739294055

>>739293986
>They pretend to
"something isn't what it objectively presents as, it's what i say it is"
sure anon
your narrative is fail
>sell your shit to the government
hahahah! the govt has the line clamped, you stupid motherfucker. they have it all.

>>739294166
The fatter you are the easier it is to loose the weight quickly. Its when you hit a certain weight you plateau and cant loose anymore. Trust me I used to weigh 265, and I got down to 200 in about 7 months? I can't remeber how long its been. Besides pretty much all of /fit is fatasses asking for help

>>739291928
That's cheaper than their current "unlimited" plans

>>739294193
selective linguistics narrative is a pathetic game you can't win
(it's obviously also about govt control)
the level of debate here is pure amusement

>>739294314
Try weighing 400+ lbs, bro. Then you realize how limited your options are.

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>>739294389
You just gotta get up and do it, my man. The only one youre cheating is yourself.

>>739294325
Don't miss the fine print!

>>739294372
>govt control
see
>>739292427

>>739294490
With the VSG, my life would be a lot healthier than listening to some pseudoscience on /fit/. Trust me. Lot of people get that surgery and go into law enforcement or the military.

>>739294571
more empty insults, rhetoric
keep trying

>>739292427
being this disingenuous re:tone of a post- kys and your weak fucking narrative

>>739294591
You won't be able to do your Diamond Dallas Page yoga on YouTube because Comcast etc. are going to throttle your connection once you hit $90 worth of cybertubes that month

>>739294667
It's not an insult, it's a statement of fact. If you think that regulation that requires ISPs to treat all internet traffic equally the exact same way that phone providers have been required to do so for years is government control you are a simpleton. I say that not out of malice but as a statement of fact.

>>739294753
Lol I'm not Boogie. If I had his money, I wouldn't need college, dude.

>>739294490
Delicious chattel trolling

>>739294740
Just because I'm talking down to you (deservedly so) doesn't mean anything more than you are misinformed about the issue at stake here.

>>739294570
22GB cap

>>739294570
I was just thinking Verizon already sucks

>>739294797
never said any of that
put more words in my mouth
assumptions are your only friend
reading for comprehension: it seems that you do understand how laughable your narrative is

>>739294865
>talking down to me
again with the narrative
you're not capable

No, it's a US problem. The rest of the world couldn't follow you even if everyone went completely insane because cable companies are usually separate from ISPs and there's a backlog of rules against it violating net neutrality.

Why are so many IT geeks so naive about technology?

Has anybody tried murdering the families of a few ISP CEOs to send the message that the internet is not to be fucked with? I'm thinking violence is a solution here.

>>739287171
As a Syber policeman I must say it will make my job so much easier!

>>739294865
>talking down
non that anon
but i think you need to look up 'disingenuous'

>>739295058
Why are so many Eurofags so invested in what Americans do?

>>739295194
For better or for worse (it's almost always for worse) we are the trend setters.

>>739288963
>work
>internet specialist

My fucking sides

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>>739288963
Look out fellas we have a black belt in google-fu over here

>>739295242
At what? Creating bombs?

>>739287171
I think that any company that seriously tries to throttle their competition is going to end up looking bad and losing market share.

Online services like netflix might cost more due to ISPs charging them, but any significant change will cause boycotts.

People in rural areas with only one choice might face problems though.

>>739295562
As if anybody cares about the rural nobodies.

>>739295603
They won't care about the Conservatives.

>>739295562
>People in rural areas with only one choice might face problems though.
What do they even use internet for there? You can't buy heroin online.

>>739296404
>you can't buy heroin online
My sweet summer child

>>739295562
We already only have one choice in my glorious Tristate metropolis

What's wrong with the people in this thread?

I love both my cell service provider and my isp . Thank you for providing such consistent and speedy service for $200 a month <3

>>739287171
That's just the first step fellas, soon total vigilance shall be upon us and it will be glorious.

>>739296404
Riiiiight

>>739295562
>People in rural areas with only one choice might face problems though.
Already do, I imagine it'd only get worse

>>739292623
Do you have no sense of historical context or any idea where most shady govts in 1st world economies gain incentive to take bribes, kickbacks & shill for corporations in the first place?
Incentive for govt corruption is rooted in money–or reelection power, in which case plenty of money's needed from those who have it. In conditions of the past 40 years–w/ economic superpower monopolies racing to choke that totally free market you types espouse–congressmen have found that incentive; see: Goldman Sachs, Duke Energy, Monsanto, any top 10 pharma company, AT&T, Verizon, & Comcast.
Example: Marsha Blackburn reps a house district in the SW corner of my state & she's exactly the type of politician you're describing. I've numerous friends living just east of Memphis. They ALL tell me how shitty internet & other utilities have gotten these past 4-5 years while other places get fiber. Her .gov frontpage says, "Marsha Blackburn believes that free markets are the best markets. She knows that the Federal Government cannot intervene in the market without fault," among other greatest hits. She's a "small govt, free market republican" through & through.
Guess who were among her top 12 donors during 2016's republican midterm sweep? Charter Comm, Verizon Wireless, Comcast & AT&T. I'm sure those companies have 0 to do w/ her shitty legislation though! Oh hey–she also happens to be the brand new chair of the House Subcommittee on Communications & Technology. She sponsored the infamous "Internet Freedom Act"–was one of the govt's leading SOPA supporters & publicly stated internet/phone companies should reserve the right to censor any info posted through their networks if they deem it "fake news." Believe me, there are MANY more like her. They all have one thing in common: free-market-killing companies up their asses.
The garbage happening w/ net neutrality is what kleptocracies & oligarchies are made of. If >>739292370 is naive, then you're naive^2 my sad friend.