I think he'll win. Remember: Everyone thought Trump was just joking, as well. Welcome to America.
No he won't. No idea what he is running for but the Trump momentum is over. People have realized that it isn't so great after all to vote a dumbass republican celebrity into office.
That women's chin.............it's an inny.
My god, Americans are such trash.
>tfw you realize this is literally what 90% of America looks like, after you've left the cities or the coasts.
LOL, this country is so fucked.
This is why it's hysterical people think Trump will get a second term.
I disagree. Trump was a message that the American people won't play by the political rules anymore. If you're not willing to give us a person possessing empathy, accountability and with a genuine rapprot with the people, we'll elect the turds you hate until honest, good politicians are a choice again. This train just started, friend.
>this is what cnn is telling the retards
>Implying Trump's base hasn't been crumbling since not "draining the swamp", going full retard by advocating globalism, selling weapons to ISIS, etc.
This shit here has been really damaging to his reputation with nationalists who aren't hardcore fans of him. He has proven that he was willing to conspire with a hostile foreign power. That is too shady even for them.
You do understand those fake news aren't really going to change anything? Like what do you think is actually going to happen if you just repeat word Russia 10000000 times? What?
Trump is going to win 2020 and then his son Eric Trump or Donald Trump Junior in2024 and 2028
It's going to be long rule or Trump family for Libtard animals
Do you even know what word ''collusion'' means you retard?
Hillary admitted of taking money from Saudi regime and George Soros but you know what? It does not really matters because this is not 2015 or 2016 you are little too late Libtard
Trump went to that meeting because he thought he could get damaging information about HIllary Clinton from the Russian government, you spastics. So he attempted to collude.
It doesn't matter what the meeting later actually turned out to be about. He tried to get information from a hostile foreign government.
>then his son Eric Trump or Donald Trump Junior
The traitor? I don't think so.
>Trump went to that meeting because he thought he could get damaging information about HIllary Clinton from the Russian government, you spastics.
>So he attempted to collude.
>Trump Jr. said
lol. Welcome to step 2, you stupid Trumpfag. You're a bit behind the rest of the cult. I believe they are on 4 at this point.
According to basic logic, you mouthbreather.
So Trump Jr. is ON RECORD with LAW ENFORCEMENT as saying he was there for the reasons you listed? Bullshit. Who SAYS he was doing that, you bluepilled MSM cock-sucking double-niggers?
>So Trump Jr. is ON RECORD with LAW ENFORCEMENT as saying he was there for the reasons you listed?
He is on record in his own fucking email, you sperglord. It's literally in the emails he released.
>Who SAYS he was doing that
Don Jr. who released the emails on Twitter himself... are you really this retarded?
>Who SAYS he was doing that, you bluepilled MSM cock-sucking double-niggers?
Trumpanzees are in panic mode.
There is nothing wrong with Trump trying to expose Hillary's Crimes he should have arrested her you subhuman piece of shit
>There is nothing wrong with Trump trying to expose Hillary's Crimes he should have arrested her you subhuman piece of shit
Wow, he really got under your skin. You that desperate, Trumpanzees?
Still shilling, every fucking day I see. What a pathetic faggot you must be. Anytime of the day I come to this godforsaken hellhole, sure enough this faggot is making snarky queer comments with pictures of Trump. I think you should kill yourself. We all come here for a discussion, and here the faggot shill for the wife of Bill shows up in force.
Link me to the emails and a source verifying the shit, then. Also, is it illegal to dig dirt? It may be. In which case, fuck him. But I, personally, haven't seen this evidence you guys claim to have. So share your sources, please?
>Still shilling, every fucking day I see
Awww, that's adorable. Now let's look at the facts and analyze where they I'll lead.
>Link me to the emails and a source verifying the shit, then
Here, you retard:
I see fucking nothing damning in those two emails.
Also his fucking children kill cats for fun.
>I see fucking nothing damning in those two emails.
Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM
Rob Goldstone to Donald Trump Jr.
>Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
>The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
>This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
>What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
>I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
>>Hunting is immoral
Hunting cats is, you shit. /b/ loves cats. Get the fuck off this /b/oard.
So Don Jr is photoshopping like Don Sr?
Right. And one of our founding fathers slandered his competition as a weak, limp-wristed hermaphrodite. Being offered beneficial information and documents isn't illegal, faggot. It's not like they were telling Russian spies how the fucking Pentagon works. The Russians didn't like Hillary, same as many Americans, and tried to prevent her coming in to power. If China'd leaked Trump shit you liberals would literally be fucking applauding China and Communism even more than ANTIFA currently is.
>I can't follow the provided link to Don Jr's twitter.
>And one of our founding fathers slandered his competition as a weak, limp-wristed hermaphrodite
What do you expect of people founding a country where all men are created equal except for the darker ones and the ones wearing feathers on their heads.
>The Russians didn't like Hillary, same as many Americans, and tried to prevent her coming in to power.
...and that's why it's legit to use the help the use of a hostile foreign government to influence a domestic issue.
>The Russians didn't like Hillary, same as many Americans, and tried to prevent her coming in to power.
So let me get this right you treacherous cunt: It's ok to us the help of hostile foreign government that is trying get a government favorably to them elected? You sir, are a fucking traitor.
Well Hillary is killing people left and right.
Not Anthony Weiner, who genuinely fucked her campaign by trying to bang a 16 year old and not Bernie Sanders who painted her as worse than Trump... but other random people.
>Being offered beneficial information and documents isn't illegal
>the source is basically a Nigerian Prince
>n-n-not a puppet!
>y-you're the puppet!
Hostile foreign government? Are you talking about Saudi Arabia regime and Qatar regime that financed Hillary's campaign? Together with (((Soros)))?
Yes it's ok to expose Hillary's emails so that the American people can see them.Yes of course it's Ok.
Right. Whatever you want to tell yourself, faggot. I didn't arrange the meeting. I didn't disclose the documents. Russia gave VALID information (or do they thought) to the opposition of the candidate that literally wanted to setup a No Fly Zone which our military had already stated would be an act of war, and I'm the traitorous cunt because I don't think receiving information from another government is necessarily incriminating. Solid logic, faggots. Meanwhile Hillary's family had their hands dirty in war for decades and colluded with an even MORE HOSTILE nation (Saudi Arabia) and that was FIIIIII E. You morons are beyond hopeless.
>if you think Trump's a Russian puppet, you're a fucking cuck liberal snowflake that voted for Hillary
>Well Hillary is killing people left and right.
>muh George Soros
>forgetting Trump appointed Mnuchin & Kushner to his cabinet
>muh Hillary will cause ww3 by attacking Syria
>forgetting Trump attacked Syria
>muh Saudi Arabia
>forgetting Trump sold 100 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia
>forgetting Trump failed to include them on the "muslim ban"
Did I state I'm satisfied with the Trump administration's handling of Saudi Arabia or that Trump is some kind of sinless saint? Don't believe I did. You don't even know how I voted or IF I voted, but your quick to attack Trump like I give a shit. Him AND Hillary are both criminals with a history of criminality. At least Bernie was just economically deluded.
Also, it's the No Fly Zone that threatened war. Not Syrian intervention.
Liberals lost the elections
Liberals lost Congress
Liberals lost Senate
Liberals lost Supreme Court
Liberals lost 5 smaller congressional elections since big one
Liberals have only media Fake news at this point and fake news media is their life support.
So why is Trump not able to get his agenda approved?
>Liberals are just butthurt that even if he gets impeached he gets a feature film.
I doubt he'll get impeached. But he will be remembered as America's admission of failure.
Sure, dude. There is a "masterplan" behind all of this. Except this isn't GoT and Trump isn't exactly Petyr Baelish.
I think you severely underestimate the ignorance of people and the persuasive power of conservative media forces on them.
I'd say his chance of winning reelection is near 50% right now, even with Trump Jr spilling enough spaghetti from his pockets to end world hunger.
The conservatives for Trump don't give a fuck about policy. All they want is to fuck liberals and anyone else who doesn't agree with them. They are truly the most ideologically entitled group of people out there.
> Everyone thought Trump was just joking
No we didn't.He was successful Businessman for over 40 years and then he beat up all politicians.Libtards tought he was joking,the rest of us take him much more seriously
I actually agree wholeheartedly. But getting Americans to all band together on anything is nigh impossible. Too many different experiences and backgrounds exist to allow proper cohesion.
You done been hornswaggled, son. They don't work for you, you work for them.
>Liberals have only media Fake news
Feeding the goyim with the Jewish lies
He also didn't note the meeting on his SF86, a security clearance form that directly asks if you have met with agents of a foreign government. It also doesn't ask why you met them. He just left it out. So did everyone else at the meeting.
So if he perjured himself on an official US security clearance form by not disclosing a meeting with a foreign agent in an attempt to get sensitive foreign government information about his political opponents to use against them to influence the Presidential election, then lied about who attended the meeting and what it was about a number of times, do you honestly think the man has nothing to hide?
I mean I'm not one to make a big deal out of nothing anon and I didn't think the Russia thing was a big deal but this is about as obvious as it gets.
Faggotry is something Libtards like the most
Yes and no. If illegal actions occurred, by all means, he should be faced with punishment to the full extent of the law. I'm not going to argue with evidence or facts, despite what a lot think of either side just going through life with political blinders on. No one's above the law, including the president. So far, however, it would APPEAR nothing illegal has occurred. When/if impeachment happens, I'll be listening to and verifying the prosecutors, not the defendant. But let's be honest here, if Hillary were tried on everything she's ever done, she'd never see daylight again. Likely the same for Trump, as well.
His initial policies regarding the TPP and Immigration reform were the main selling points of Trump to me. I knew clearing the swamp would be a monstrous task he likely wouldn't even be able to dent. Only the people can replace corrupt figures. Or indictment. Surprise, surprise: The politician lied to get power. At least there was a chance he was sincere and wanted what was best for middle America, but I KNEW from experience/the past that Hillary would do whatever would further her and her family with no regard for the backbone of America. I'd just love for some Joe Blow with an Economics/Sociology degree to run and gain traction. I'm so sick of this political system, which is basically what a large percentage of votes for Trump were saying.
>I'm so sick of this political system, which is basically what a large percentage of votes for Trump were saying.
What a great maymay. Too bad I never fucking said that, Mr. Strawman. The vote for Trump was more of an "Oh shit. They did it." than it is your fucking picture. Memes are not arguments. The People stopped being represented by political system with their best interests in mind long ago in favor of corporate/financial/political power LONG ago. If you disagree with that last statement, you're just fucking delusional.
I'd love to see Hillary in jail but it will never happen. Funny enough Trump forgot about that campaign promise immediately.
Lying and omission on SF86 is a big deal if you aren't the son of a billionaire who also happens to be President. A normal person would have had their clearances immediately revoked pending investigation. So it seems they are also above the law.
That's fair I too wanted an end to the TPP and illegal immigration, but he proved to me on the campaign trail with the wall crap that he had no clue how to go about it. Dropping the TPP is the only one good thing he's done so far IMO.
The thing is Trump is a Republican. He's just a continuation of the system, and I feel like that was obvious from the beginning.
If you want to break the system it's third party.
You know what is most likely going on here?
I mean at a level well beyond our own ken, at the level referred to as Illuminati or Bilderberg or 0.5% or whatever, you know, the people who pull all the politicians' strings.
These folks are annoyed with the Resident Dump because he can't be controlled. Not like the way they controlled Her Reptilian Majesty. He does stuff they don't like simply because he's a consummate narcissist playing ad captandum vulgus. That makes the powerful folks very nervous.
They could impeach his ass. They floated that idea already. Problem is, they'd be left with Pence, who's almost as uncontrollable.
They could Article 25 his ass. They floated that idea already and ditto.
They also floated the idea of calling in all corruption cards, making the line of succession fall all the way to the feet of Orrin Hatch. Do they really want Hatch to be president? He's like Pence but with magical underwear.
Now it looks like they're floating the idea of invalidating the election altogether. Where might that lead? "Unpresidented", as the @realDonaldTrump might say. But that might very well clear the way to invest Her Reptilian Majesty with the office after all.
A weird idea, yes. But we live in weird times.
Not him - but I live in the cities and coasts. We are better than you flyover red state fucks. We are higher earners per capita, higher educated per capita, contribute more to the wealth of the US economy per capita, etc. etc.
I'm 100% for abolishing the electoral college and allowing us to run the country. Red state trash fucks had their shot with Bush, now they're fucking us even harder with Trump. You're all gullible, ignorant, and incompetent. You need to sit back and allow educated people to fix things for you. NO - your coal and manufacturing jobs are NOT coming back - we've moved past that. Time to learn another trade, Cletus.
I was both of those, ironically. Tell me how to get hundreds of millions to abandon Democrat vs. Republican and I'd be happy to lend my aid. I don't see it happening though. Everything from Media Political brainwashing to generations of indoctrinated families being die-hard Democrat or Republican will make that a hard, long road, friend.
Mah momma always sayd, smug is as smug does.
I am aware and I am in a continual existential quandry over it.
People don't care about the truth, only their own version of it. Changing your thoughts is hard. Possibly beyond the ability of many.
>The People stopped being represented by political system with their best interests in mind long ago in favor of corporate/financial/political power LONG ago
Lol at Trump being the solution to this.
For the powerful class will choose two courses of action, both of them safe for itself, and then give the democracy the gratification of taking one course or the other. The lord will take two things so much alike that he would not mind choosing from them blindfold – and then for a great jest he will allow the slaves to choose.
– G. K. Chesterton, "Voter and Two Voices", A Miscellany of Men (1912)
Woah, friend. Not true. The MEDIA wants you to think everyone falls hard right/left and can't be reasoned with, but that's more media bullshit. People, on average, are good. They care about their fellow man. Possess empathy. Wish to end suffering. It's the politicians and the media hijacking that good natured for their own agendas. Eventually, there will BE no media to lie to you. You can just hop and skip to the next webpage and verify the same article from 15 sites with 15 viewpoints. Soon, it will be nearly impossible to lie to the masses like it is now. Especially as the baby boomers and others die off en masse.
Cute and all, but false-flag means any time you appear as the enemy to discredit them or incite public outrage towards them. America is the fucking CHAMP at this. That and Moral Panics and Folk Devils.
This depends upon the reasons each side supports what they do. To support Trump only as your Commander in Chief is not deluded or dumb, so long as you listen to all sides when his good/bad deeds come out. Same as SJWs who hate racism but are misguided in saying things like "all white people owe all black people" and "all white people are racist." Hating racism? Good. Being accidentally racist as a result? Bad. Supporting your president? Good. Supporting your president when he does illegal/traitorous things? Bad. It's not so black and white, anon.
Imagine that. Thanks for telling me, but I knew it was bullshit. You just helped me finger HOW it was bullshit. None of those are correct. I would actually bet Trump isn't very far right. He doesn't give a shit about abortion or drugs or welfare.
The media does want you to think everyone is unreasonable. Unfortunately I am learning that nearly everyone is unreasonable by actually talking to them. Maybe not unreasonable per se, but 80% or so will not change. They rationalize, they downplay, they question my legitimate sources, they make excuses that they don't care anymore, they simply refuse to engage me any further, they say 'well what about this person who did something similar' or 'well this person does it too so its fine'.
And I've had a several that start to get irrationally angry when their walls start to crumble in their tiny ideological sand fort, and they lash out violently to save it from the tide of reason and understanding....
And it's not just about politics. Once a person has come to a conclusion about almost anything they have trouble changing it. People delude themselves every day about all sorts of stuff, even me.
It is so difficult. If you have some magical miracle method to reach these people tell me.
What you've encountered is the "vocal minority." Now, I'm not in denial: Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug. Most people, however, wish to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible. If you approach them with kindness and rationality, you're likely to receive in kind. Not everyone is capable of overcoming their own delusions/dissonances, however. You have to be prepared for that, but the conversation is ALWAYS worth having, even if it turns out to be unproductive. It may weaken or crack the facade they've bought, or at the very least, you've tried to share the truth with another human being. You should never view that as a failure or futile.
It is actually accurate, Clinton has been a social, fiscal, and foreign policy light conservative for pretty much her whole career. She supported every republican backed foreign policy objective including the Iraq War, she supported DOMA, the war on drugs, prison privatization, I could continue. It's just that the Republican party has gone so far right she looks left. If she ran on her original 2016 platform (pre minor Bernie plagiarism) in 1980 she'd be a republican.
She's a shapeshifting snake like every other huge, successful politician. Knowing where she REALLY sits on the issues raised by the Political Compass Test is impossible. I doubt SHE even knows what she actually believes anymore.
So why are moderates so fucking dumb that they voted for this ass clown?
I always have it if the opportunity arises. Only six years ago I was one of them. I'd consider myself much more enlightened now, but considering I could potentially be entirely wrong and tainted by my perspective I cannot definitively say that I am.
And I think that's the key part, that somehow many people never consider that they could be wrong about anything important.
It's fucked because Liberals and retards like you want to elect someone like Hillary and are totally blind to everything he was doing. People like you forget about what the DNC did. They cry about their email being hacked to deter the attention away from what what exposed. Yet you still support their corruption and their candidate that has never told the truth to the American people.
Many moderates didn't vote or voted third party or did a write in. I wrote in Sanders because I felt like he deserved my vote in protest of the democratic primary. My wife and her parents voted for Ian McMullen after doing some research. My parents didn't vote at all. At least 10 other people I know didn't vote at all, eight of them because they lived in majority red states and didn't think their votes make no difference, and two because they had a bad experience during the Democratic primary trying to cast a vote and refused to have any further part in the system.
Beyond that I know people that voted for Trump and regret it and I know people that voted for Hillary and derided my decision because I 'helped Trump win' and while that may be true I can't in good conscience have voted for either of the shitbags.
My unfounded opinion is the electoral college system suppresses voter turnout and Clinton alienated moderates and progressives by fucking them in the primary.
That's all you need to be a good, evolving human being: Be capable of saying "I could be wrong, show me." And "I don't know."
At some point, not having all the answers became perceived as a weakness. This is absolutely retarded, however, in that each human can only become better and more knowledgeable with the help of OTHER humans. I don't get it, man.
Another day another anti-white racist thread. Neo-liberals are more embarrassing than the anti-black cuck brigade. Sad day to be alive.
Then you get trolls or shills like this.
Plus I'm forced to watch the news at work, CNN on one screen, Fox on the other. It's not good for me or my productivity. Also Fox's propaganda is horrifyingly efficient.
Wait a second wow wow wow. Wait. You actually BELIEVE we watch the mainstream news? AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH DO ALL LIBERALS BELIEVE THIS? WTF LMFAO.
No anon I don't care what your fucking masters on tv say. We DON'T watch the MSM. You people are detached from reality. Youdon't have to believe things because someone in a suit says so.
I'm a centrist who's voted both Democrat and Republican in my life. You're clearly some kind of troll. No one stated the right ("we", I assume) watch MSM. You're just shitposting. We don't need your shit here, whether you're actually Right Wing or not.
Cool so then why did you bring up fox news? It seemed to me like calling me a troll and emphesizing that fox news is propaganda seemed directed at me. Why use it in the same post to me? And why call me a troll?
You act as if a non-politician celebrity winning office somewhere is new and unheard of prior to Trump
Ronald Reagan, Arnold Swarchzeneggar, Jesse Ventura, Al Franken were all non-politician celebrities who later went to be elected to various offices.
I'd agree. Thread's dead, anyways. Just don't respond like >>738995593 and expect not to be called a troll/false-flag/Poe. That's the Left-view stereotypical Republican response.
>wanting a wigger to win
This phony faggot thought he was black, then thought he was limp bizkit, now he thinks he's Lynyrd Skynyrd. We dont need more flip floppers in Washington.
I support Trump because he is a strong person who doesn't take shit from no one and does what he must to get shit done his way. I also very much support him because he is our president and I see it as a duty of the people to respect their leader.
makes no sense to debate a dumb trumptard
I'm going on CHOOSE to pretend you're not an actual Left Wing citizen. I've met good people from all over the compass. You're a shitty one no matter where your allegiance lies. You're a disgrace to true, rational libertarians.
Wtf does it matter if they worked with Russia? They do what they must for more money. Isnt that what a business man does? And working with other nations can help our alliamce with them
>People, on average, are good. They care about their fellow man. Possess empathy. Wish to end suffering.
People think he'll get a second because we're aware it's going to be predecided
>voter info from all the states
>guy who is known to mass purge people from rolls and has been fined for it numerous times
>putting it publicly online
>also Trump wants to form a cyber security group with a country that tried to influence our elections
>and has basically invited them to do it again
The GOP is running so shitty because they know they have fixed it to guarantee re-election. The only area they are fucked in is when it comes to actually doing the job they were elected for.
Trump BARELY won the last election. He won exactly where he needed to by less than 1% in most areas. Since then, scandals have mounted and public opinion polls show everyone who isn;t a Trumpian is very displeased and distrusting of Trump. It's pretty foolish that these massive scandals that are happening will not matter during re-eelection. Considering any of these would have gotten any president impeached, I sort of doubt that. This also relies on the GOP somehow never leaving power despite being clearly dysfunctional and unapproved by americans. I also doubt there would even still be 50 states at that point.
Idiot kids think presidents are guaranteed re-election because the last 3 were re-elected as if the situations were similar. Perhaps Trump can get re-elected if he starts two wars in the middle east.
Same stupid people who think the GOP will somehow lose no seats during midterms even though, historically, the incumbent presidents party ALWAYS loses atleast 15 seats if the President has a 50% or higher approval. Under 50% and the party often loses 30+ seats.
Until Trump is brought up on charges for Russian involvement, pic related.
Trump mused on the cyber security thing, not that he could actually establish said team.
>Russia hacked our election meme
Trump isn't a saint. Trump University alone shows he can be a real scumbag. That being said, you're just spewing hearsay nonsense. Stahp.
Don't bother. Trumpians have been masters at ignoring reality. They are still shouting fake news even after proof was found. When Trump is impeached they'll claim that too, was fake news.
Even Shephard smith is sick of this shit.
>collude with a hostile power
>lol it's nothing
Pretty sure if a president had colluded with a hostile power in the 100's or 1800's they would have been executed. Treason is kind of a big deal, Trumpian. No one is going to drop fact because it offends you. Accept that you fucked up with a traitor.