>make fun of Trump for his bankruptcies >doesn't

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>>738860335
>being a retard

Hush, summer child.

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>>738861074
>implying lying is a dis qualifier in politics
O I'm laffin

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>>738860335
>When did you realize that being anti-Trump was being a retard?

stop your crying OP. You're a big girl now.

I actually believe Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Their president is clumsy asf

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>>738861185
>Trump is President
>Republicans control everything
>Democrats falling apart with no platform but anti-Trump
>I'm crying
Nah just pointing out how stupid and ill informed anti-Trump folks are

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>>738860335
I make fun of Trump regarding all of those points but for none of the reasons you gave. Trump's record is tarnished by his bankruptcies because of the reason they happened, not because of how often. Trump has tried to bully Mexico into a deal regarding the wall and sofar its only backfired. There are many factors that contribute to violence and I would never be so naive as to think poverty is the only that matters. Also, who thinks Trump was behind the voter fraud? At most Democrats think he's a Russian puppet.

https://youtu.be/veTUyZRc4gI

OP. Part 2

Nobody cares about the US. They're killing eachother anyways so that country is not going to last

>>738861369
Information is not what separates Trump supporters from Trump haters. Instead, it's the values and the narrative within our cultures that separate us - a narrative only growing more extreme on both sides, as the media we consume rarely shows anything else.

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>>738861454
>because of the reason they happened, not because of how often
He invested in a bad city, his track record is still impeccable. "How can a casino go out of business people literally give you money!" tier retards

>Trump has tried to bully Mexico into a deal regarding the wall and sofar its only backfired
Mexico has zero say in the funding of the wall. What will Mexico do when we decide to tax remittance? Or charge more for border crossings? Sure we can use the wall as a bargaining chip but Mexico has no say over how it's getting paid for

>There are many factors that contribute to violence
Mostly skin color

>Also, who thinks Trump was behind the voter fraud?
They make fun of his claims of massive voter fraud in states like California that would have otherwise given him the popular vote. California voter registration did not require an address or social security number and in an election so high-risk for illegals I have no doubt they voted in droves. Compound this with California's refusal to provide voter data and I think he's on to something.

>At most Democrats think he's a Russian puppet.
That's a pretty big claim for Democrats with zero evidence to back it up. This would be like the entire Republican party running on the birther movement

>>738861764
I would say it's a combination of all, allowing yourself to fall in to a narrative leads to a lack of information as you feel no need to challenge the agreeable media you see or your social circle drives on to you

>>738861454
Retardation demonstration.

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>>738861899
I'm going to ignore the bankruptcy point b/c I'm not well enough informed to effectively communicate my opinion without digging up old sources.

>What will Mexico do when we decide to tax remittance? Or charge more for border crossings?
Well, they could tax us more, since we use them for labor and the production of goods. Or, they could just do nothing about it since the citizens would be paying, not the government, and they're perfectly capable of getting here illegally.

>Mostly skin color
Ever been to Africa? I have, and that changed my mind. I think skin color is even less relevant than poverty. Instead, it's the cultural values, combined with economic standing, that play the largest role. There is evidence to say that blacks are more likely to be violent as a result of their genes, but that same evidence also says those violent tendencies are triggered by the environment - ie economic standing. Such is the field of epigenetics.

>They make fun of his claims of massive voter fraud in states like California that would have otherwise given him the popular vote
I live in L.A. and go to UCLA, and literally no.

>That's a pretty big claim for Democrats with zero evidence to back it up
I agree whole heartily.

>I would say it's a combination of all
Please don't think I'm trying to give a cut and dry explanation, my phrasing was for emphasis. Information plays an important role, just not the defining one.

>>738860335
low quality shill post 1/10 made me reply

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>>738862781
>Well, they could tax us more, since we use them for labor and the production of goods.
That's part of the renegotiation efforts anyway. They tax us, they lose business.

>and they're perfectly capable of getting here illegally.
I'm sorry did you forget we're discussing payment of the border wall? And that we have a President who is interested in enforcing immigration laws?

> but that same evidence also says those violent tendencies are triggered by the environment - ie economic standing
So you did nothing but add words to the 'its cuz they poor' argument.

>I live in L.A. and go to UCLA, and literally no.
>My anecdotes

>>738862781
Dude, the fact that you attend UCLA if anything means that you don't have your finger on the pulse of the voting population. Now more than ever, universities are highly isolated from reality. Just look at the election to realize that. If you believed what was coming off the campuses, Bernie was going to sweep the election, then once Hil pushed him out of the way, the attitude was that she was a lock.

>>738863223
>That's part of the renegotiation efforts anyway. They tax us, they lose business.
So you think we can just blackmail them into paying for the wall? The majority of their money comes from an industry that relies on the wall not being built (drug cartels), and they're not afraid of violence. Those are the people who should pay for the wall, not the Mexican people, or their government. I don't disagree with Mexico for seeing things that way, and I can't see blackmail going well as a result.

>I'm sorry did you forget we're discussing payment of the border wall?
Over half of our undocumented residents here in California arrived via plane. I'm not sure what a wall is going to do about them. I mean, they paid money to get here sure, but then they just didn't leave.

>So you did nothing but add words to the 'its cuz they poor' argument.
No, I explained the nuance that most people miss. Yes genes can cause violence, but only if those genes are triggered. This is why poverty plays a bigger role in creating violence than genes. Even more important than both of these causes though, are the cultures one identifies with. These are passed down much like genes, so I can see how they might be mixed up as well.

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>>738860335
Great Again!

>>738863854
I'm a new student here, and I'm 26. I'm young, and there are many things I don't know, but I've talked to a hell of a lot of voters about voting issues. My finger may not be on the pulse, but I'm certainty a relevant source of information.

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>>738860335
About 1 week after he was elected and he started firin' his executive lasers. Gave niggers and women a bunch of grant money to get the ejumuhcashon and they still bitch.

>>738863956
>muh memes
mostly fake bullshit with a few loosely accurate points.

kys

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>>738863929
>So you think we can just blackmail them into paying for the wall?
How is that blackmail? Also like I said, we don't need to get them to pay for the wall because the way we would recoup the costs are beyond their control.

One of the largest revenue streams for Mexico is payments coming back from the US that they skim off the op. We tax remittance higher on our end to discourage money being sent over and to pay for the wall. They have zero recourse.

>but then they just didn't leave.
That's where my part about having a President who enforces immigration law comes in. You arrive via plane and overstay? ICE comes to knock on your door and politely take you back. You want to get back but don't have the legal means? Oh fuck now there's a big ol' wall in the way.

>Yes genes can cause violence, but only if those genes are triggered.
And black people are more likely to be triggered to violence, we're arguing the same point. It's not because they're poor, they're poor because of it.

>>738864083
>but I'm certainty a relevant source of information.
>I can speak for all of California and say there's no mass voter fraud... Because I went to UCLA guise

>>738862781
>Ever been to Africa?

Ever been to Detroit?

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>>738864315
Holy shit you're so btfo. Point to one false line in that picture

>>738864401
Nice!

Saved.

>>738864329
>How is that blackmail?
I just explained how it could be perceived that way. Look, I get where you're coming from, and I really hope you're right. I just don't see things working out that way.

>It's not because they're poor, they're poor because of it.
If this were true you'd see a a correlation between the presence of the "violence gene" and wealth. Specifically, wealthy black people would be less likely to have the gene. This is not the case.

>>738864396
Yeah, almost as bad as the old Irish slums.

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>>738864708
>If this were true you'd see a a correlation between the presence of the "violence gene" and wealth.
Actually my claim is that violent crime correlates with the number of black people in a nation and that we will continue to have problems with gangs and violence as long as we have a large population of blacks. Culture does play in to it, such as being anything not ghettomonkey is 'acting white'

>Yeah, almost as bad as the old Irish slums.
hoohoo really got us there.
>looks at crime rates between the two
Oh god my point keeps getting reinforced

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>>738864401
>Point to one false line in that picture

>Cracking down on ISIS
by selling weapons to Saudi Arabia... who is arming/funding ISIS in Yemen. WHOOPS.

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>>738865167
>stretching it that far
Alright c'mon sweetie you can find something better than that. The entire list is mostly false right

>>738864931
Correlation is not causation, unless you do a time study. The non existent inverse correlation I mentioned does, as a result, indicate that there is no causal relationship between not having the gene and being wealthy. The correlation you just provided is not only unable to provide a causal link, its full of hidden variables. It's simply not a strong claim.

>looks at crime rates between the two
May I see where you got the crime rates of Irish slums in the 19th century?

>>738865263
>deflecting this hard

>>738865167
You mean like Hillary while she was SoS?

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>>738865352
I'll just let this series of statistics speak for itself and people can draw their own conclusions. I will simply point to practically the entirety of Africa as an example of a genetic group generally incompatible with western ideas of civilization

>May I see where you got the crime rates of Irish slums in the 19th century?
Gangs of New York

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>>738865465
>being this unable to find a single thing factually wrong with that long list of Trump's accomplishments in the first 6 months
Feels good to vote for the right side of history and not being a bleeting sheep

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>>738865469
>Trump is doing the same thing as Hillary, so what?
>HILLARY IS LITERALLY HITLER!
Nice logic my dude.

>>738865498
I think we're all aware of those statistics, the debate was about their cause. I pointed by finger at culture and poverty, you at genetics. Are you backing away from your claim? I would if I were you, since my explanation fits with all of the statistics you just provided.

The only legitimate reason to vote for this man is to have him throw grenades. If you don't want to watch the world burn and you voted for him you are either delusional or an idiot or both

>>738861369
Without "legal" immigrants :)

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>>738865697
>I was completely passive about all of this shit the last 8 years
>OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO BE THE END OF THE REPUBLIC
The trick to remember is that we don't actually care about their opinions at that point because we know it's not worth anything. It's us making fun of them

>you at genetics. Are you backing away from your claim?
>an example of a genetic group generally incompatible with western ideas of civilization
Holy shit do they make all you UCLA kids this lacking in critical thinking?

>>738865835
At first I was going to vote for him for the grenades and disruption aspect, but after actually hearing him and his ideas I found I agreed with what he was saying and found him to be a breath of fresh air in a stale government

>>738864188
Reporting you to the FbI friend

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>>738866022

kek

>>738865987
>t. I have no argument
cool story breh

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>>738866252
Have a fun 7 1/2 years friend

>>738865987
Again, correlation is not causation. There is no evidence in those statistics that genetics were the primary cause, and in fact there is more evidence to the contrary.

And so you know, I was never taught critical thinking here. I'm sure they teach it, but I attended another school when I was fulfilling GE reqs. Here I just learn Math, CS, and Linguistics.

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>>738866346
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a threat looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

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>>738866456
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a threat looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

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>>738866657
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>>738866606
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>>738866571

And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

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>>738866746
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>>738866775

And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

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>>738866541
>an exchange that went against the narrative
TOP KEK the irony
>when /ptg/ shills spam every Trump thread but you claim Shariablue is spamming the thread because it "showed Trump in a positive light"

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>>738866883
>when multiple devices are being dedicated to posting irrelevant pictures in the only pro-Trump discussion on the board

You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

>>738866656
UCLA guy here - what are you talking about? I see threads that show Trump in a positive light all the time. The vast majority of "shills" being called out are just concerned liberals (often making valid points). Are you saying one such concerned liberal is attempting to hide this thread from the masses? I see no reason why that motive might exist. Can you enlighten me?

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>>738867024
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

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>>738867022
>when you double down on stupidity

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>>738867155
And just so the ill informed are clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

what about net neutrality? Do you not care about this? I would think that this would be a defining issue that brings the left and the right together? The Trump admin has made it clear that this is not something they support and yet you supporters of his cuck out and make excuses.

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>>738867202
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.

What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.

If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.

Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?

>>738867320
oh its this bot again

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>>738860335