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Fuck this game is hard! I know I'm a slowfag I just now

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Fuck this game is hard! I know I'm a slowfag I just now started playing this. Do walkthroughs help at all?
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>walkthroughs
lmao just git gud
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>>738799881
kek, you're just shit at the game
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>>738800060
>>738800060
I really am
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Walkthroughs tell you where good loot is. But that doesn't mean you'll get it.

You gotta play it to get better. That's the only way to make any real progress. Or just cheat with a trainer
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>>738799881
Be a pyromancer then you win
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>>738799881
wipe the several layers of cheeto and dorito dust off your hands and controller, then git gud.
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>>738800115
Dun pheel bad bro blz. I bought this game several times only to trade it right back in three days later. Wna bley blops 3?or ibfinite warframe.
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>walkthroughs

Have you even heard of this game?
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>>738800350
Pyromancer is for pussies.
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>>738802082
That's why I only Havel
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Play bloodborne instead
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>>738799881
git gud and praise the sun
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>>738799881
The only time I needed a walkthrough was when I didn't see the path to Capra demon in the forest. Walked by it 200 or so times before I hugged the wall and finally found the path. Still can't find it at first even now.
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>>738800350
Magic pyro in 2 ftw
>3 lingering flames
>Homing crystal soulmass
>A few poison mists
>when they spawn in blinded by mist use the sun to praise the sun over their corpses
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>>738802213
>using Havel's armour
No wonder you're a pyromancer.
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>>738802213
Havel is a meathead built.
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>>738799881
If bad, get heavy armor and a great shield. Turtle like a madman. If early in the game, farm Baldur Knights that use the shield, for the Baldur Knight Shield. Shit has crazy stability.

Farm the same knights but the ones that carry the Baldur Straight Sword.

Godspeed.
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>>738803093
>not heavy armor two handed
Bruh do you even lift
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>>738803093
Make sure you can still quickroll if you use heavy armour. High endurance stat with heavy armour needed.
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>>738803592
This builds for the OP... he can't quite lift yet.

The legend never dies.
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fuck dark souls most frustrating game ever you die 99% of the time cuz camera system is fucking trash and you have to choose between locking onto the boss or seeing what the fuck hes doing
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>>738799881
The game just requires patience, and careful consideration of stats and situational management.
This ranges from balancing good weapons and armor, with equip load and health, dealing enough damage in a few hits and leaving yourself stamina to evade or block, and learning your opponant's moves and timings.
Do that and you can make progress.
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>>738804035
Bait.
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>>738804035
Guess you never got gud.
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how about you just git gud you fucking ravioli lmao
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>>738799881
I'll fucking make you a min/max build right now.
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Where are you stuck?>>738799881
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>>738799881
Here are my tips for you to git gud
> be patience super important to observe enemy moves sets to predict openings
> use the starter equipment as its usually op e.g long sword and ipgrade it its a good pve weapon and somtimes pvp
>if u are truly a faggot just go magic its op
>try to spend all ur souls so it isnt punishing when u die
>DO NOT KILL NPCS unless ur about to end the game
>loot everywhere usually good loot somewhere
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>>738799881
I recently beat it blind. just follow the difficulty curve created by the game. If you are in an area that is too hard, you shouldnt be there
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>>738799881
Walk-through would ruin 50% of the fun for DS1
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>>738799881
No. You just play until you're good. It helps to upgrade your weapons, though.
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>>738799881
>>738804269
Here's my go-to build that I still dick around on from time to time.

Fuck Hornet Ring users (in PVP).
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>>738804697
This.
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walkthroughs help, but at times they can suck the fun of exploring and dying out of the game. part of the fun is how hard it is and how satisfying it is to figure stuff out and beat stuff on your own.
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quelaag's furysword is op as shit too
when in doubt, nuke everything
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>>738805350
Might as well be using the Drake Sword.
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>>738803014
>not fat rolling rolling

what a pleb, I bet you use a claymore too huh?
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>>738805491
i know it doesn't scale too well but i had high dex and went chaos for everything else, so the humanity scale helped
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Praise the Sun guys \(T)/
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>>738805623
To each their own.

I played the fuck out of Dark Souls.

I was the guy min-maxing the shit out of every build, testing each weapon along with it's specific scaling while swapping them over into the left hand for dual-wielding purposes. Mixing and matching every armor set for maximum defense and poise levels... also for fashion souls.

Spent too much time on that game, but my god was it worth it.
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>>738805874
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>>738799881
Try right, then tongue but hole.
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>>738806013
i never spent that much time in it. just fucked around until i had a system that kinda worked and then used dps for everything. i played tank souls
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Fuck all u faggots i am the mightest in all of darksouls 1v1 me reeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>738806166
Soup.
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>>738806166
amazing chest ahead
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>>738802261
Harder imo
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You mean you dont use the artorias greatsword? Not the nigger faggot one but the TRUE artorias greatsword.
I bet yall use giants armour and dark knights weapons
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>>738806455
try head
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>>738805005
could i apply this to ds3?
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>>738806555
Giant Armor and a Chaos Zweihander.
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>>738806166
Lol. I did it
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>>738806643
Poise works differently in DS3 but you could give it a shot.

I'll give you my DS3 build., one second...
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>>738806662
What a fag
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>>738799881
> Dark Souls
> hard
Pick one
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>>738802213
Nigger please
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>>738806643
Nope. In DS3, you have to jack up your Intelligence and Faith if you want to use Pyromancy, whereas in DS1 there is no stat scaling on the Pyromancy Flame, it's just pure weapon upgrade so anyone can use it that has spell slots to use.

Also, they eliminated poise in DS3 for some retarded fucking reason, so heavy armor isn't quite as good as it is in the first 2 games.
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>>738805606
Nope I use a shield and jump attack with it. Then spell/pyro the rest
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>>738806742
Poise doesn't work differently in 3 than 1. Poise is non-existent in 3.
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>>738807010
Their for it works different because it doesn't work because it's not their. LAERN TGE ENGRISH LONGAUGE FUUGET
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curious why this thread isnt in /v/
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>>738807010
Poise exists but it it used differently, in a more hidden way.

Poise only works if you have really heavy armor on, even then, it usually only is "usable" against smaller weapons. Think daggers or short-swords. If you've got enough heavy armor on, you may be able to power through straight-sword attacks.

Poise is fucking useless anyway. Just get used to the hyper-armor weapon attacks.
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>>738806760
>m'lady
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>>738807268
I don't count it as a mechanic. Since it's absent completely from 3, it can't work differently.
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>>738806643
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>>738807369
Yeah, poise wasn't ever a thing I used anyway, except for my first playthrough. Just dodge.
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>>738807418
It's a mechanic in the way that it's not there when it once was the mechanic is the absence of the mechanic compared to the previous games
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>>738807369
>Poise is fucking useless anyway. Just get used to the hyper-armor weapon attacks.

This is what really pissed me off about Dark Souls 3, and why in my opinion, regarding combat, it's the worst game in the series.

They basically made the 3rd game Dark Souls: Bloodbourne Edition. All the enemies are hyper aggressive, unlike the first 2 games. So if you want to use a shield for defense, then anything less than a great sheild is literally useless. Poise at first didn't exist, then it got reintroduced was gimped to fuck. You like playing heavy armor +sword and board characters in the first 2 games? Well you're shit out of luck then.

Fuck you From Soft. If I wanted to play Bloodbourne, I would have played Bloodbourne.
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>>738807607
That or use the Mace.

Anybody that uses a heavy weapon like a Great Mace or Great Hammer or Ultra Great Sword automatically gets fucked because although they can get one hit in, all you have to do is two-hand the Mace and use it's weapon art -Perseverance- and power through that attack and hit em twice or more. You take less damage while doing more and the weapon-art itself is so quick to activate that you can just react to when they swing.

Shit is cash.

It's literally brain-dead how easy it is to kill Heavy-Weapon users.
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>>738804697
This is the only essential information.
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>>738807777
DS3 is actually the worst in the entire series.
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>>738808015
It was the best in terms of environments, animations and effects, gear aesthetics, and it had great lore.

But yea, in the context of combat, which is a HUGE deal when we're talking about a Souls game, it's easily the fucking worst.
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>>738807871
There were no weapon arts in 1 or 2.

I refuse to play 3.
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>>738808015
The only thing that truly pissed me off is the covenants
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>>738807777
Nice quads.

I had the same view of the game until I started dual-wielding different combinations of weaponry.

Think straight sword in the right hand and a spear in the left.

The combat is so fluid and so varied with all of the different attack inputs and combo's that it has become my favorite go-to-game in the series for PVP.

Here's my build >>738807538

Honestly though, just forgot about poise and start using Heavy Weapons.

Greatswords, Ultra Greatswords, Halberds, Great Hammers, Great Maces, Great Axes... anything with "Great" in the name gets hyper-armor when doing attacks.

Hyper-armor has basically been swapped with Poise and it took me quite a long time to figure that out.

Try using those types of weapons while two-handing them and you'll feel like poise is back again.

And if you want traditional sword n' board action, just use the Curse Ward Greatshield or the Wolf Knight Greatshield (although harder to get). Both are fairly light as Greatshields go along with well-off protection against most forms of damage.
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>>738808217
DS3 aesthetics are too oily and muddy for me, but I can see the appeal. I personally like the lore in 1 and 2 more.
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>>738807871
I love the great club most. Just wait for my moment and jump smash
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>>738808220
I loved the addition of the Weapon-Arts.

You actually have a choice in choosing specific weaponry instead of just opting for the weapon with the longest reach or the greatest scaling.

You're missing out.
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>>738808338
I know it's a Souls game, but Iudex is a horrible first boss. It's way too unfair. Especially with the slight changes in mechanics.
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Giant dad build
Zweihander +15
Ring of favor and protection or havels ring if i want to use mask of child and shield
Wood grain ring for them flips
Pyromancy flame +15
On a lvl 120
Starting deprived


That build will litteraly run through pvp and pve.
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>>738808610
Didnt die to him once starting deprived.
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>>738808621
Chaos-infused Zweihander you fucking mong,

And don't tell anybody that you leveled up your Dex either.
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Bloodborne is best souls-like game
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>>738806821
>>738802909
Can't stop the Rock
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>>738808781
No, Demon's Souls is.
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>>738808741
+15 does more damage m8.
Infusions are good for people with low STR or Dex stats. And that meme was good for awhile. I only use the armor for better physical defence.
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>>738808875
No Ds1 is
Then demon souls
Then 2
Then 3
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>>738809062
You can fast roll with a Chaos-infused Zweihander while doing decent damage.

The meme no died.
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>>738809229
DS1 isn't a "Souls-Like" game you mongoloid, it IS a Souls game.
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>>738809237
Weapon infusions don't change weapon weight, ya dingus.
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>>738809229
>>738808875
>>738808781
Every opinion represented
>can't possibly ask for reliable recommendations of games on this site
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>>738809339
A thing is like itself
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>>738809472
A thing isn't "like" itself. A thing IS itself. Water isn't a water-like substance, it's fucking water.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp, anon.
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>>738809413
You literally get 66 Endurance with the original Giant-Dad build along with the Havel's Ring and the Ring of Faith and Protection.

Refer to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4
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>>738799881
My advice is try different play stiles. Some are good with light armor and light weapons. some are good with ranged or spells. Maybe even go for the bandit class, they're kinda slow but hit high as fuck.
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>>738807777
The fuck are you on about bruh? You can literally start the game as a knight and use nothing but starting gear, upgrading the sword only, and easily sword and board it. The sword gets 100 percent damage reduction. Sword and board is alive and well. And like other people are saying if you use great swords or mace's you get hyper armor which is pretty much poise.

DS2 Is still the worst in the series imo. DS3 I still enjoy. Bloodborne is easy but it's fun when drinking.
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>>738809576
Water isn't like water? So it's like a meat pie then right?
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i just bought 2 and 3. how important is it to play dark souls 1 before the others?
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>>738809669
That...doesn't do anything to address the comment that was made about weapon infusions not affecting weapon weight. But okay.
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>>738809576
Why can't it also be like itself in this instance. I just want a word to describe all games that follow that format
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>>738809936
Ah, you're trolling. Gotcha.
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>>738809886
>The sword gets 100 percent damage reduction

ALERT ALERT ALERT CASUL DETECTED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>738809576
So it's not a game that it's like it's like a game which isn't a game cause it's not like itself
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>>738800115
just pick up a zweihander and faceroll through the game fag
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>>738809956
Its the best in the series. 2 isnt the same and 3 is somewhat close but still not as good.
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>>738809886
Dark Souls 3 is objectively horrible.
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>>738810111
k ill wait till its on sale then or maybe ill just pay the full15 bucks
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>>738810036
Fucking kek. Totally said sword, meant shield. My bad. Sword most definitely doesn't have that much damage reduction. Still though I think people are too hard on DS3. But then I think fans of the Souls series are too hard on every souls game. Nothing is ever good for us.
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>>738810197
neckbeard detected
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>>738809886
>The fuck are you on about bruh?
Well, you see, if you actually read what I typed, you'd understand.

>he sword gets 100 percent damage reduction. Sword and board is alive and well.
Except for the introduction of the hyper-aggressive enemies, who will ALWAYS eat through your stamina bar while you're blocking unless you're using a good great shield. I know because I actually tried it.

> And like other people are saying if you use great swords or mace's you get hyper armor which is pretty much poise.
Hyper armor is fucking useless, and it is not an acceptable replacement for the poise that was in the first 2 games. There was no fucking reason for From Soft to change it that way.
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>>738810197
I respect your opinion, but disagree.
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>>738809958
It doesn't matter that weapon infusions don't reduce weapon weight.

You literally just put more points into endurance (if we are still talking about Dark Souls "1") if you're worried about that.

If your next argument is that you cant to stay within a certain level-range, use infusions so you can put the points that were going to go into STR or DEX into END.
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>>738810270
I shave regularly.
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>>738799881
https://youtu.be/XqWEc61cNek Share PLZ offer 3 soj + wf

This.

Train on the Dragon bringe faggote! And take the Long weapon.
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>>738810270
Did you not have an actual response to the point made?

Is that why you just leaned on a non-related topical meme response and hoped for the best?
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I played 2 and 3 before touching 1.
And I played Bloodborne before I tried 1.

Until I started 1, I didn't touch a shield once.
I always relied on being quick and just dodging rather than tanking hits.

Which is why Bloodborne is my favorite.
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>>738810333
... I am on 4chan, right?
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>>738799881
Fat Finger detected https://youtu.be/XqWEc61cNek Share PLZ offer 3 soj + wf
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>>738810300
>Hyper armor is fucking useless,

That deserves a topkek there m9.

Hyper-armor is so fucking good, you just have to know when to use it.

Literally attack after someone has started up their swing and you'll deal more damage, leading to their eventual death and your eventual victory boner.

Is it an acceptable replacement? HELL NO!

But is it useless... HELL NO!
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>>738810300
If your enemies are eating through your stamina bar then you're shit at sword and board. I have done exactly what I wrote earlier about using the starter gear only and with that shield you can literally block every attack an enemy throws at you and still have plenty of stamina for attacks or rolls. Do you not ever drop your shield or something? I mean hell I use chloranthy ring and can drop the shield in between attacks for like half a second and get all the stamina I lost from the block.
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>>738810404
calm down buddy
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>>738810451
Pretty much the same for me. I like how the story mixes with the gameplay in bloodborne. Some fights feel like action scenes if the camera doesn't hit a wall
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>>738810620
>If your enemies are eating through your stamina bar then you're shit at sword and board

I played Sword and Board in the first 2 games very successfully and they were among my favorite builds. I also tried it in DS3. I know, from actual experience, that you're wrong.
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>>738810704
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>>738810476
Yeah you are. But I mean I'm not going to change your opinion. I enjoy all the souls games quite a lot but I don't think any of them are terrible. I'm not the biggest fan of the second one but I mean hell, I'm currently running a caestus build for kicks. I'm not going to change your opinion of DS3 but you're free to feel that way about it.
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Chaos Blade
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>>738810785
Not the anon that you're responding to, but..

I've played all three games with sword n' board quite successfully, and that, I know, from actual experience, that you're wrong.

And when I say sword n' board I mean a straight sword with a medium shield.
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>>738810551
>Is it an acceptable replacement? HELL NO!
>But is it useless... HELL NO!
You have a point there, with the one exception that no one knew how the fuck it worked when the game first came out, and the game itself offers NO explanation for the mechanics.
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>>738810785
Well obviously you're not doing as well as you think because I have had extremely good luck from all of the games doing sword and board and it's not significantly changed in DS3 except that you actually have to drop your shield occasionally. I mean fucks sake, I know from ACTUAL experience too that it works.
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>>738811007
It's dark souls bro. Why would you expect an explanation. I figured it out the first moment I got the executioner's great sword and started to spin to win through attacks. You it's like seeing invincibility frames in a fighting game.
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Thoughts on Dark Souls 2? Played 1-3 and Bloodbourne and it is still my favorite, probably only because it was the first one I played. I feel like it gets a lot of unwarranted flak though. Best PvP imo.
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>>738810225

whatever your first game is is your favorite game and the rest dont live up to expectations from talking to people
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>>738799881
Git gud where are you the stray demon?
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>>738810346
My point to this post was at deprived you start lvl 1 with 10 in every stat,
56 end,
Now level 57, put about 30 in health
Now level 87 with 66 end and 40 vit.
Put the remaining 33 in STR and have a lvl 120 43 str, 66 end, and 40 vit.
Your +15 zwei is stronger then a chaos zwei +5.
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>>738811007
I will give you some credit in that nobody knew how it worked when the game first came out because the game itself really didn't explain it simply enough.

Isn't that how most games are sometimes?

I mean, Hyper-Armor isn't really a main topic, it's more along the line of additive combat mechanics that only works with heavy weapons.

You could complete the game just fine with a straight sword and shield.

If you wanted to use a heavy weapon, I believe that the Devs left that mechanic to be explored within the confines of the game.
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>>738811269
Yeah I agree with you on that. D1 was my first and will always be my favorite. But I still enjoy three. And I enjoy three more than two.
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>>738811026
>Well obviously you're not doing as well as you think

No, it worked out REALLY fuckin' well for me in the 2 games. That's why I'm so pissed about the change in the first place.

> I have had extremely good luck from all of the games doing sword and board and it's not significantly changed in DS3

Except for the fact that it was significantly changed, both in the context of poise and the fact that they changed enemies to be hyper-aggressive, unlike the first 2 games. That means they eat through your stamina bar more quickly, and they don't give you any breathing room to recover enough of your stamina, except to block again.

> except that you actually have to drop your shield occasionally.
Yea, you have to do that in the first 2 games as well. I learned that in the first 5 minutes of using a shield for my primary defense in Dark Souls 1. You're not blowing my mind with new information here.

> I mean fucks sake, I know from ACTUAL experience too that it works.

The truth most likely lies between our experience. Maybe it's not useless like I'm making it out to be, but it is empirically worse than the first 2 games.
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>>738811201
Poise came with an explanation in the first 2 games.
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>>738811298
>it's more along the line of additive combat mechanics
It wasn't an additive combat mechanic, it replaced a well-established combat mechanic from the first 2 games.
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>>738799881

legit question OP, are you playing with your keyboard and mouse or a controller?

everybody knows keyboard and mouse is the hardest boss in dark souls
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>>738811292
You're assuming that the original Giant Dad build was capped at 120. It wasn't. It was capped at 99. (And yes we were meming off of the Giant Dad build which was the original topic).

And depending on which class you start off with and what attributes you intend to put your levels into, you may or may not either end with a greater level or a lower level.

Pyromancer or the Knight class is usually the best class for min-maxing because it gives the most levels for the average build i.e. Sword n' Board or Heavy Weapon. It may seem counter-intuitive, but that's just apart of the game.

I recommend MugenMonkey for building a class and figuring out which class is the best to start with.
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>>738811563
Dark Souls 3 is fine with keyboard and mouse.
Dark Souls 1?

Hopeless.
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>>738811562
I don't believe that Hyper-Armor was an intended replacement for Poise, and it it was... fucking devs...
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>>738811714
>What is controller via USB
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>>738811563
The first time I beat D1 was with mouse and keyboard because I didn't have a controller T_T SOOOOO hard
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>>738811755
and IF it was****

Fuck me.
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>>738799881
>Fuck this game is hard!
no, casual faggot -- its shtick is all one-kill wonders:

fool you once, and good on game... fool you twice... and... I forget how it goes (...but you're a faggot scrub)

>co-op turns the game into a Wiifest up until Astorias / Kismet / Manus DLC
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>>738811225
Pvp agreed the real killer for it was the wonky story. Fuck gonna go fap to emerald herald now
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always remember me taking 2 hours and quiting because I didnt know you have to go up from firelinkshrine, ended up playing the game a few months later and figured it out

used longsword/shield most of the game, used quelaags and longsword until end of first playthrough
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>>738811775
>Has computer
>Plays it like a console
Kek
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>>738799881
Just keep playing and you'll get better, however if you don't have patience then I wouldn't recommend playing this game.

Also pyromancer is easy mode, and you don't have to kill every enemy; you can just run through most of the game.
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>>738808610
Beat him first try on deprived. He easy
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>>738812457
>doesn't play twinstick shooters
>doesn't play fighting games
C'mon anon, you're just limiting yourself at this point
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not to brag, but I beat orenstein and smough on my first try.

no summons
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>>738813225
Dafuq is a twinstick shooter? You mean what a controller is with the two knobby clicky things
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>>738813572
neck yourself you degenerate
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>>738799881
Just wait until you realize that PVP is nothing but "who can back stab the best" and armor is completely irrelevant.

>be facing your opponent
>he suddenly turns your character a full 180 degrees instantly
>back stabs you
>you literally get backstab by someone you were directly facing in 1/20th of a second.
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>>738813248
I died every time I summoned. Ornsteins spear got me mid spell at long range. He dashed right as the spell arrow hit and it did not damage him. His large rigid spear thrust through my bosom as my magical load spewed forth from my small crooked stick of power
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>>738813572
Games like pic related where you move with one stick and shoot with the other.

Geez anon it's like you've never played a vidya.
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>>738813937
here's a nonshit pic
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You're a fucking shit player if you think Dark Souls is hard... Fuckin' noob. Give up, you've clearly no skill/talent for playing games. Go and play a game of "SNAP!" or something.
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>>738799881
>Do walkthroughs help at all

Yes. The save you a shitload of time.

However, I recommend you play the game all the way through just once without looking at any of them. The exploration of the in game environment is 85% of the joy of the game and walkthroughs rob you of that.

Just play the game without trying to create a perfect character. Everybody's first character is shit, even the guys who follow the walkthroughs.
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>>738811714

How can people STILL not know about DSfix and mousefix?
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>>738813855
Just googled it and it's literally a regular first person shooter. I have never seen an alternate method. Like fuck is their a first person shooter out there where the stick is the buttons and the buttons is the stick how European is that shit
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>>738813877
Dat fag lag yo
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>>738813877
This.

This right here is why I stopped playing. It's such bullshit.
>I'm better than you because I'm downloading a shitload of anime
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>>738814167
Twinstick shooters are primarily top-down so like original zelda and Binding of Issac
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>>738813877
dubs confirms. backstabbing is bullshit.
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>>738813937
So every game ever past button controllers. I don't need a special designation for my shooter. A shooter is first person, third person, side scrolling or overhead. Two sticks are always used unless you have an old school game with no sticks. I don't call my guitar hero a "multi button flap flicker"

I don't call my racing game a "stick and two trigger puny pusher"

I don't call my fighting game a "spastic tappity tap

And my shooters aren't "twin sticks" or "triggered with trigger triggers" or "sit and shooties" or "zoom and booms" or "crouch and slouches"
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>>738814532
Original Zelda didn't have a stick it was a nes controller with a pad. This is why things don't make sense
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>>738815036

Dude twinstick shooters are different to FPS's. This is reality. It's fine, calm down.
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>>738815401
But do you use two sticks in fps? Yes or no? Is one stick used to move and one used to aim?
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>>738815665

You shouldn't be using sticks to play FPS's, you should be using a mouse. But consolefags eat shit and compliment the chef so whatever
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>>738815036
they're called twinsticks because you use 2(twin)sticks.

It's not that silly. Plus as I've said, fps's arent really twinsticks, twinsticks are twinsticks.

Pic related is another twinstick example.
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>>738816173

Agreed. A mouse and WASD.

You don't need a faggot controller for FPS's.
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>>738815281
That's the controller, I'm talking about the genre of game.
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>>738799881
Lock on. At first I thought it was some weird slow version of Ninja Gaiden and then I realized you could lock on.
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>>738816296
But these kinds of games are easily played with mouse and keyboard?
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>>738799881
Git good! All the souls games are easy. All the enemies has a move pattern. Learn them, then you will run though it like cake.
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>>738799881
level health, grab giants armor and fuck everything
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>>738816524
Majority of people like using analog sticks so it's easier to fire diagonally, but it's still possible to play them without a controller
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>>738816450

>just lock on bro

You are literally one of the first tutorial messages in the Asylum
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>>738816900
You'd be surprised how many people skip that shit, and then make threads like these.
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dont be afraid to look at the wiki when youre lost, it will click eventually and you'll have a blast
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>>738817050

Some people don't deserve to play Dark Souls.
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>>738799881
all you gotta do is level only the resistance stat and then the game is ez mode
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>>738807871
i just use the dragonslayer greataxe wep art and flatten niggas like pancakes
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>>738808015
not while DaS2 exists
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>>738811563
Try with just a keyboard. Played that way so long I can't play a souls game with a controller or mouse.
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>>738817481

Falling Bolt is hilarious. My go to "fuck you" button for gank squads.
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>>738816296
But I can play this with mouse and wasd so it's the same as fps in terms of control method
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>>738816352
You don't need twin sticks for twin sticks either just wasd and mouse
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>>738817968
they may think they can dodgeroll it
they may think theyre out of range
but theyre wrong every time
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>>738816425
So Duke nukem is an fps not a "doomclone" by that logic.
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>>738816742
>Easier
You mean way fucking harder right? That awkward slanting flick that makes you aim up, down or to the side but never diagonally unless you hold the stick in that direction constantly applying pressure to avoid an aim slip
Yeah way easier right you 9 armed 72 fingered space alien with 8 cocks. I bet the N64 controller fit you like a glove didn't it
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>>738818336
You can play original zelda with a newer controller, you don't NEED to use an old nes controller

Also "genre" and "controller" are not interchangeable.
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