Why do so many women with socially liberal beliefs seem to be

Women like tough, masculine guys. Conservative men are generally tougher than liberal men, to the point where you can look at a man and immediately tell whether they are a democrat or republican.

Women also like to believe they can "fix" guys. They see an attractive right-wing man and want to convert them to "the right side of history"

because they already gots a pussy

>I knew a chick
>therefore true

This definitely isn't true. Hot non-morons only go for vegan liberals

>>738468637
>Conservative men are tougher

Literally laughing

>>738467893
this is not true . at all

liberal females want to eventually settle down and pretend to be traditional.
every girl grows up dreaming about getting married, after she gets fucked by 40 different guys in as many different ways as possible

In the UK this is definitely not true. Admitting you voted conservative/UKIP around anyone <30 is a ticket to instant social isolation

>>738468767
>Conservative men are tougher
>Literally laughing
>Literally

Show me a tough libcuck, or show us how you look.

(Different Anon)

>>738468951
Have you ever spoken to an actual living women?

>>738467893
Who the fuck would be socially liberal.

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>>738468767
Think of the average liberal man and compare him to the average conservative man. Who is more masculine? The blue collar plumber or the hipster working at a start up? Your liberal arts professor or an accountant? Obviously there are weak men on both sides, see: those "kekistani" faggots. Liberal men have some sort of genetic condition where they are predisposed to looking like pic related.

>>738468767
There's very good evidence to suggest that conservatives are generally more attractive. Attractiveness, self confidence and toughness often correlate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/?utm_term=.32208357b095

Fuck WP, look at the references.

>>738469063
I could find thousands but that is hardly the point. And I am liberal and have a liberal girlfriend. Don't know if I'd say I'm that tough but I'm pretty ripped

>>738469346
Interesting but if that's the case then OPs point makes no sense it just implies that people don't care about politics in partners.

Also that study seems to be about politicians and not average people

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>>738469295

>>738469346
>study on physical attractiveness
>published in Journal of Public Economics

>>738468637
>Conservative men are generally tougher
..which is why they need guns to feel safe.

>>738469780
Yeah you're right. It seems the demographics they're looking at are fairly limited (don't know sample size though). However they make the point that good looking people are found to be better earners on average and higher earnings usually go along with republican/conservative view points.

>>738469101
What makes you think I haven't?

>>738469869
There are objective standards to attractiveness and if you can correlate it to earnings and politics it plays right in with economics.

Both sides of this view their opposition counter parts as caricatures and generalizations

Want to know who is more likely to get more tail? The guy who doesn't blabber on about politics,pays for the girls dinner, acts confidently, jumps in his 100k car and goes home to fuck a bunch of models on a pike of money.

>>738470045

Oh look

It's a faggy little trash who is obviously super weak irl.

I always wondered how sad life must be for you betas.

>>738470342
Pile not pike


That would be weird

>>738470195
>There are objective standards to attractiveness
which were not used in the study
and there's no consensus on "objective standards" (e.g., facial symmetry)

>>738470342
This. Yall are just shit talking about the stereotypes you have in your head, not about actual people. Politics plays way less of a role than you think. Attractiveness, musculature, money, confidence, social standing, and interesting-ness matter more.

>>738470431
HURR MUH GUNSS

Because women are inferior, and anyone who sees them as equals (feminists) is a fucking cuck. Women are attracted to people who realize the difference in superiority in the sexes (non-retards) and races (whites who realize the inferiority of blacks, or "racists" from the same logic). More or less, women aren't attracted to fucking faggots

>>738470431
Triggered by the gun-remark, snowflake?

>>738467893
Because sex is about fulfilling your repressed desires (FACT). Most women want to be submissive during sex, so feminists who repress such urges only make them come out all the more kinky and thirsty when they inevitably do come out.

>>738470045
>Armed murderer breaks into your house
>You have a shotgun
He dead

>Armed murderer breaks into your house
>You are unarmed
You dead

Physical strength doesn't mean much if one of the parties is armed and the other is not. Unless they are fast enough to get to you and overpower you before you can get to your gun it is pretty irrelevant. Guns are the great equalizer.

>>738470195
>>738470466
"We define the Beauty of a candidate as the mean beauty assessment of his or her photograph among all respondents who evaluated it."

Subjective.

>>738470503

I don't even own a gun, you retarded trash.

>>738470649
You both dead.

>>738470493
If you have something interesting to talk about, are charming, funny, decent looking and in decent shape, have a job, and act like you know what you're doing then you're going to seem attractive. YMMV though

>>738470503

Just shows how hateful and prejudice murdering rapist and hate spreading you regressives are.

>>738470649
>Guns are the great equalizer.
Yeah, so if you're weak in that situation.. you need a gun.

>>738470725
>>738470774
snowflakes detected

>>738470755
Nah dude, decent looking and decent shape are what make you attractive, but that's not everything.

>>738470774
>hateful and prejudice murdering rapist and hate spreading
Serious butthurt

>>738470649
>crack down on gun ownership so the chances of an armed murderer breaking into your home are reduced drastically
>also try and create a more civilised society, like in Britain, where shooting up a school or a family house wouldn't cross 98 percent of our minds

>>738469469
You say you can show thousands(ok fag thats a lot for normal hetero guy but sure) but present none. It literally is the fucking point anon is making. Show us one tough guy liberal.

>>738470493
Well of course, but that wouldn't lead to much of a thread where regressive liberals and conservacucks can display their snowflake-butthurt.

>>738471022
Why let logic get in the way of a good flame war?

>>738470800
>Be Navy Seal
>Sleeping at home with no guns for whatever reason
>Armed murderer breaks in
>You can't get close enough before he kills you at a distance.

>Be medieval knight
>Train for combat my entire life
>Tough as fuck, can beat anyone in hand to hand combat
>Some faggot with a crossbow shoots at me
>I die
Same shit.

>>738470903
Hur dur let's make guns in our state illegal so that people can't buy guns for self defense but criminals can go to Montana and bring back guns to rob people with

>>738471193
Do crossbows actually pierce plate armor?

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>>738470800
You do realize brute strength can't solve everything right? Sometimes you need brute strength and a gun.

>>738471129
>Why let logic get in the way of a good flame war?
Exactly, that's pretty much what /b/ is all about. Let's not bring logic and reasoning into this. If we did, we wouldn't get beautiful faggotry like this post (>>738470774).

>>738471306
Exactly. You need a gun, cause in some situations you're weak.

>>738470903
>The United States has more guns in it than people
>2nd amendment exists
>Vast majority of gun-related deaths are from handguns (which will never be banned), not the big scary """assault rifle""" AR-15
Good fucking luck with that

>>738471229
All I know is that crossbows fucked up cavalry so hard that nations wanted to ban crossbows for being too overpowered

>>738469469

>I could find thousands but that is hardly the point.

The point was conservatives aren't tough as seen by your "literally laughing" remark. I've replied with me basically saying I doubt any liberals are tough, after all most of them are hair dyed cucks. Before you find thousands find one, I'd say that counteracts against this thread my original reply and the first reply by an Anon.

> Don't know if I'd say I'm that tough but I'm pretty ripped

Tough isn't just about being ripped, so yeah you're definitely not tough, anyway if you're so confident post a pic. I think the word you're looking for is masculine, even then being "ripped" isn't the only factor.

>>738470649
Statistically more likely:

>Waving gun around to show how tough you are
>Accidentally shoot someone you love

Keep telling the story of the armed robber but you are more of a danger to yourself

>>738471414
Fuck banning guns, the 2nd amendment exists so we can overthrow the government whenever we think we need to

>>738471565
>no evidence that demonstrates that people who vote democrat are less masculine
>redefines toughness as an intangible quality you could probably deny existing in any image your opponent provides
>makes an outrageous claim and says "prove me wrong"

not our job, kiddo

>>738471573
>require gun buyers to take extensive safety classes
>this stops happening

>>738471573
And that's their decision to make, it's a risk that is worth it depending on the scenario. If I lived in 99% white upper-middle class neighborhood in Vermont then I wouldn't bother with getting a gun for home defense. If I lived in south side Chicago then I absolutely have a gun.

>>738467893
I'm sorry OP but just b/c you are a /pol/ bootlicker does not mean you'll get liberal hipster chicks crawling on your dick. Fascism is generally a turn off, believe it or not.

>>738471908
explain bdsm relationships

>>738471573
>Keep telling the story of the armed robber but you are more of a danger to yourself
In their case, it's less of a problem if they accidentally eliminate themselves and/or their relatives from the gene pool.

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>>738467893
Because right wing men are stronger and science supports this fact.

Left wing progressive women all harbor rape fantasies. They want a strong man to dominate them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2325414/Men-physically-strong-likely-right-wing-political-views.html

Just a reminder that liberals spread hate and murder in the name of tolerance.

Even nazis thought that they are doing a favour to humanity.

I see no single difference between a modern liberal and an old timey nazi.

A pretty big majority of white men are conservatives. Especially the ones older than 25. If a woman is attracted to a white man, chances are she's attracted to a republican.

>>738468649
Inb4 someone sucks your dick for being so correct!!!

>>738472370
The only difference is nationalism vs globalism and open borders. They're both socialists, both use fear tactics and try to silence their opposition through violence.

>>738472283
> $(CURRENTYEAR)
>Using the Daily Mail as a source

ISHYGDDT

>>738467893

Because they want to date a man. "men" with liberal views have them because they don't believe they can compete in a capitalist market, whether that's money, sports, or sexual attraction.

Women can hold whatever beliefs they want, but in the end their biology overrides it all and she gets wet when chad thundercock shows dominance and grabs her ass the first time they meet, even as she openly complains about him doing it.

>>738470877
You picked one thing out of all I said

>>738470970
Henry Rollins

>>738467893
Women have an obsessive need to "fix" people. Its why a lot of women will be friends with outcasts. They arent interested in that outcast, it is their pathological desire to fix that outcast. I drink and smoke. My wife hates me drinking and smoking, despite the fact I was drinking and smoking on our first date. 16 years later, she is still trying to get me to quit. Im not sure what will happen first at this point. I die, or she gives up

>>738472797
He isn't a liberal

>>738471821
Just like training for cops stops them from shooting irresponsibly?

>>738468979

Only in public. In private the girls you know are getting banged out A LOT more often than you think they are based on their public behavior, and the fact that they've likely never allowed you to see their submissive side. The women will never admit this to you, but her girlfriends know.

>>738472283
>Daily Mail

It bites them in the ass later, Anon. I know a girl exactly like this. Every guy dumps her when they realize how ambitious and liberal and feminist she is.

She will never learn and will die alone unless she wakes the fuck up.

>>738472965
Yes he is

>>738473122
He's a leftist. There's a difference

>>738473265
>no true liberal

>>738470164
Because you're on 4chan

>>738472027
People want to play with power relationships in a safe environment. BDSM has nothing to do with being a /pol/tard

>>738472797
>Henry Rollins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins
>Rollins was born in Washington, D.C., the only child of Iris and Paul Garfield.[5][6][7][8]. Henry has Jewish ancestry.[
EVERY TIME

>>738473122
>>738473265
https://youtu.be/u52Oz-54VYw
This encompasses leftists thought on liberals

>>738472661
>liberal
>don't believe in capitalism

Capitalism is literally liberalism. Read a dictionary.

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>>738471776

>Outrageous claim and says "prove me wrong"

"Show me a tough libcuck, or show us how you look. "

Have you seen any liberals / looked in the mirror. They don't act tough or look tough. Really isn't an outrageous claim, but everything is outrageous to you.

Also how is my claim outrageous when he said:

">Conservative men are tougher

Literally laughing"
>redefines toughness as an intangible quality you could probably deny existing in any image your opponent provides

>marked by absence of softness or sentimentality.
>characterized by severity or uncompromising determination tough laws tough discipline.
>capable of enduring strain, hardship.

How exactly did I redefine it by saying, "Tough isn't just about being ripped, so yeah you're definitely not tough". I simply told him the word he might be looking for is masculinity, even then being "ripped" is part of masculinity.

Simply show me a tough liberal and I will retract my claims, don't assume I'm a cuck like you who denies any evidence when granted.

>no evidence that demonstrates that people who vote democrat are less masculine

>no evidence that demonstrates that people who vote democrat are masculine

Further proving my point you've haven't seen any people on your side before.

>pic related

>not our job, kiddo

Yeah how dare I ask for evidence proving my points wrong instead of just listening to you when you say I am wrong! I shouldn't have asked such a request!

Then again democrats don't like working / doing anything that resembles work. So I don't blame for falling in that category and simply doing what you do best.

>>738470431
Your trigger is showing

>>738472661
if you consider yourself a "liberal" and dont support capitalism, then you are an irrational idiot, because your views contradict each other. the same is true if you consider yourself a supporter of capitalism and a "conservative".

>>738470903
>forgets illegal gun ownership
>is unarming populace from defending itself
>watch crime rates rise
seriously choke yourself.

>>738467893
women like being taken against their "will", they enjoy having someone do something theyre afraid to agree to so they need the kink /naughty aspect of it to make it acceptable. When your gf says she doesn't wanna fuck, act real seriously angry and tell them youll take them by force and youll end up fucking them 80% of the time with no problems after.

>>738473399
So you're projecting?
It's just a fact, most girls want to get married be boring and pretend to be responsible, after they let dozens of guys do stuff to them they wouldn't let their husband do sexually

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>>738473904
I'm an anarcho-capitalist. I believe in true laize faire free markets

>>738474117
If you disagree with this you're single

>>738468767
Well, conservatives are more likely to be military/hunter/law enforcement
Southern tend to be bigger from sports like football and they tend to be republican. I'd say on average a conservative would have a better chance of being either bigger more muscle or rugged. Which would attract them more to the conservatives.

>>738471408
You must be brain dead if you think you're strong enough to handle every situation at all times, and then turn around and call it weakness. Very weak bait. If you're so strong without a gun and can handle anything, why are you not a cop walking around solving a cities problems without a gun?

>>738470903
>Criminals only have legal, registered guns.
You went full retard, anon.

>>738474192
This is true. See: every 30-50 year old soccer mom in America. They weren't always as boring and responsible as they seem now.

>>738473402
Wrong. People want a dictator they consider worthy to take charge.

I've found the kinkiest women to be ultra-conservative. Especially the married ones. They have a lot of repressed shit to unleash. Power-liberal here.

>>738467893
Why do socialy conservative guys create fantasy worlds in there echo chamber blogs where they are remotely atractive to anybody?

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>>738473003
In a threatening situation, police officers have SECONDS to make those decisions. Mistakes will happen. Let's see you get out of a car, see a toy gun without the orange tip pointed at you, and you NOT fire, you fucking idiot.

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>>738467893
women are so attracted to stormfaggots, that they puke and run the opposite direction, warning all their other friends to put restraining orders on the permavirgin incel low-IQ bozos.

>>738474770
I voted Trump and I'm married to a woman who got hit on daily at her high school and still gets hit on in public. Women want a man who can repair a refrigerator or car, lift them like paper, with strong, clear values and morals and strong willpower. You won't find that very often in the "YOU'RE A WHITE MALE!" crowd.

>>738475192
Those women you describe end up alone and sad.

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All this baseless tribalism is weird. I'm sure everyone here is a big, tough, god fearing fuck machine that women throw themselves at.

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Dr paul

>>738475449
I don't know about the rest of you, but by the time I met my wife, she was my 26th girlfriend, and I had taken two v-cards. So...Yeah?

>>738475235
That's why most of them are:

a) Single
b) a Femboy
c) Have an ugly girlfriend they're subdominant too and are used as an echo camber for them.

>>738475583
Have you seen Steve Shives lately? His Feminazi girlfriend melted his brain from the inside. It's sad, really.

>>738475544
He's projecting Anon, guy hasn't lost his V-card yet.

>>738475544
I never understood why people brag about fucking virgins. They are the absolute worst try hard fuckers ever (virgins, I mean). Did you carve your initials on her inner thigh while you were in there, so every one knows? Doesn't count otherwise.
>Tucker wuz here

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>>738475901
I wasn't bragging because they were virgins, faggot. If a girl is willing to let you be the first, after other men have offered, sometimes COUNTLESS other men offered, she's essentially telling you "You are more worthy than all of my previous suitors." It's a testament to the man's quality because a woman valued him enough to let him be the first. I actually respect that decision and never pushed. I was begged by the girl both times. Nice assumptions, though, faggot.

>>738467893
Because liberals are idealists. We take in the way things are, the way things could be, the way things should be, imagine how to get to where things would be in the best possible scenario, and figure out a way to get there. So girls think, yeah, a big dumb guy who isn't too challenging to converse and live with would be good. Then they get with them, and get bored with his drinking and his idiot friends thinking like 12 year old boys, and cheat on him, get beat the fuck up, everything goes to shit, then they're in victim mode, and they come to me looking for a solution to their failed marriage.

Never look for logic in the decision-making of a woman in matters of love. It's an absurd circus of lunacy going on in there.

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>>738476075
It just means you got laid in grade school.

>>738474936
>the vast majority of police mistakes are when they have a weapon pointed at them
O i am laffin
That's a legitimate use of force. I'm talking about the rapid escalation of the use of force characteristic of rookie cops on a power trip

>>738475901

>tmw you've never fucked a virgin and rag on people for doing what you never can / never will do.

>>738476147
I actually saved myself until I was 18 and thought I'd found a wife. But after I'd lost my v-cards, the fuck am I waiting for? Getting laid with women you like and respect is nice. You should try it, anon. Now only my wife gets my D, which I've had girls pout at me after hearing I'm married, so maybe talk about what it's like to be desirable when you actually have some experience with it, eh?

>>738468979

UKIP yes, Tory no.

>>738476148
Yes. That's a thing. Surprise, surprise, a lot of worthless bullies become cops to reboot their ego after high School boots their reject asses out into the real world. We need better mental evaluations on people applying for a Police Academy.

>>738471776

>>738473574

It's sad you knew you couldn't reply to me without embarrassing yourself any further so you've decided to stay quiet accepting you were wrong.

Or possibly I'm just impatient and you're trying your best to find one example of a tough / masculine libtard; this really shows how you don't even see yourself as an example of one, don't worry you're not the only one who sees you this way. Also am I actually impatient if I'm forced to wait forever for you to do so?

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>>738476422
I know lots of young Tories

You're right.
Not so much ukip except the degenerate ones

ITT: evidence that maybe not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative.

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>>738476674

>>738476147
>Didn't get laid in grade school
>Didn't get laid in middle school
>Didn't get laid in high school
>Didn't get laid in college

Quit projecting your insecurities and sort comings anon. You can always ask your mom for money to get a hooker so you can finally get laid too.

>>738467893
>but...but i'm like you? Why don't you like me?

I'm pretty liberal (university professor), and I pretend to be ashamed of the fact that I like to be dominant in bed. Whereas actually, I feel no shame about treating women like sluts. Liberal in the street, conservative in the bedroom...

>>738477107

I'm this guy: >>738476075
And your post brings up another valid point. Ioved out and became independent from my parents at 18. My mother's already dead. A lot of hyperliberals are still big kids who don't know how to navigate their world and need their parents constant guidance. This shit is a huge turn off to women.

>>738477347
I moved out*
Fucking phone.

Conservatism is an ideology for people who are essentially afraid and disgusted by things they don't know.

This is a pretty feminine point of view. The overwhelming majority of women are conservative. Why do you think so many gays are conservative? Because they're more feminine.

Why do you think all across the globe liberals and socialists weren't to keen on giving women the vote? Because they knew they would vote conservative and in almost all cases, they were right.

>>738477048
Either you don't know the difference between liberal and conservative and mixed them up, or you've just joined this thread.

>>738472400
Is that why so many white women fuck black guys?

>>738467893
I'll tell ya why m8

It's because women are internally confused and can't do anything right

>>738474196

And how will this not result in a 19th century style proletariat society?

How will the free market deal with climate change?

A totally free market is complet madness. Just as getting rid of the free market is madness.

>>738471496
didn't the catholic say you can't use them against other christians?

>>738474386
>>738474196
Please let this faggot Rest In Peace! The only thing of value Milton Friedman spoke about was negative tax. The rest of his words are garbage.

>>738470696
how the fuck do you plan on objectively measuring beauty dipshit

>>738477440

>Why do you think so many gays are conservative? Because they're more feminin

I'm pretty sure more gays are liberal; feel free to prove me wrong though. Just because you see many traps on 4chan who are this way doesn't mean "so many gays" are conservative.

Since you want to talk about the majority; the majority is definitely liberal.

>The overwhelming majority of women are conservative.

Saying that like it's a bad thing, also I doubt that's true even if it is how is that a big thing.

>Conservatism is an ideology for people who are essentially afraid and disgusted by things they don't know.

Where did you get that description from?

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>>738477440
>No citations
>Women, the fairer, kinder sex, typically votes for tight immigration and military power and shit.
Kid, if you're gonna spout absolute bullshit, at least make it logical bullshit.

>>738469295
>blue collar plumber
>votes anti union

When did retard strength start coming off as masculine?

>>738478639
>One of these things is not like the others! One of these things is:
A political stance, while the other is a representative labor organization ensuring fair work and wages for skilled workers.

They're not mutually exclusive, retard.

>>738468637
Son, you're one delusional cuck.

women like liberal men more than conservative because it's easier to indulge in cuckoldry

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>>738467893
I've had similar experience. One of my close friends, a bisexual vegan chick covered in tattoos, fucked me while we were in college (in liberal Massachusetts). I had a confederate flag up in my room and constantly argued with her about politics, race, and gender bs. Maybe she liked that I'm willing to stick to my guns and didn't act like a beta democrat.

>>738467893

When have women EVER known what they want? so why, all of the sudden, are men thinking that they do know what they want?

women think they want to be strong and independant but what they really want is a dominant man to lead them. millions of years of conditioning isnt gonna be undone by tumblr idiocy

>>738467893

Assuming this is true for all women - and it isn't - I'd imagine this would be the case because many males, specifically millennials, who share these beliefs tend to wear them on their sleeve. It reeks of approval-seeking behavior, and it simply isn't sexy.

This isn't to say a man can't lean socially liberal and not possess masculine qualities, but men who shriek about the patriarchy or whatever bullshit just seems like another "nice guy."

>>738477847
I'm for that society. Let the weak die and the dumb poor people work

You mean the climate Change we always have had? Well, free markets deal with through innovation through science funded by corporations and private citizens.

A total free market has never been used. If you think the current stem works you're mad.

>>738477958
Says the pinko commie

>>738477688
White women are statistically the least likely combination of race and sex to race mix. Keep eating up that propaganda though.

>>738481002
>>738481002
Works better than Communo-Socialist regime, I assure you.

>>738479317
What about it is delusional? You really don't think that the average republican man is more masculine than the average democrat man?