/b/ros, I need serious help. Pretty convinced my gf is cheating. I need closure, it's eating me alive. I can't sleep or eat. I love this girl, I want to spend my life with this girl, but I am so convinced in my gut that she is cheating with a specific person.
She denies and denies and denies, but acts so suspicously. Asks such odd questions at times.
She's on wahtsapp, messenger, all those different apps at the same times as the person. And they're not just people who come on every ten minutes, they will both be off for like two hourss then come online within minutes of each other. spend the same amount of time online and then disappear for a similar period of time.
I know I should just end it, just walk away if I distrust her so much. But I love her, and I don't want to throw away the chance of spending the rest of my life with this girl. I've never felt this way about her with anyone else, just this one specific person. I know it isn't general paranoia, I'm not insecure like that. I just have this unshakeable gut feeling about these two specifically, and the online activity lends credence to it.
I need to know for certain, how can I get absolute closure one way or another and move on with my life, with her or without her?
Please help me /b/. What software can I use to find out once and for all? I need to be discreet.
No troll, just a /b/rother at his wits end, desperate to stop feeling this way about his girl, desperate to be able to love her and commit to her fulyl.
/b/ump
>>738467484
don't let yourself become the willing cuck. leave. if it even seems suspicious it's most likely happening. women are chronic cheaters.
Do what's in your best interest, and trust your gut. I've been in a similar situation. Muster up the courage and walk away from the relationship. I promise you it'll work out for you in the end.
I had my suspicions and dragged it out until the slut broke up with me via text and left me for a law student. Sucked for a while. But once you learn to love yourself it feels a whole lot better. Spend the time to work on yourself either in the gym or focusing on your faults. After a nice 6 months to myself I went from a narcissistic skank of a 5 to a loving and fun 8.5. Trust her with my life. Best part is that the skank tried to weasel back in once she noticed the upgrade.
Totally worth it. But at the same time look at yourself in the mirror and question your fears. Chicks hate insecurity. They can sniff that shit out like a shark in the water after a hot spring break. I dont know how old you are, but if you're young you have all of the time in the world to find the right one. Don't spend another second catering to a snake
Either walk away or pay someine in hackforum to crack her shit
Best to walk away b\ro
I do love myself, and I'm absolutel comfortable spending the rest of my life without this girl if she's cheating, but I need to know.
There's nowhere near enough evidence to prove she is, I need to know. I need to monitor the phone activity or something.
If I know for sure, I'll be fine. But I can't spend my life wondering what if I was wrong and paranoid and overreacted or got it all wrong.
>>738469025
>pay someine in hackforum to crack her shit
How do I go about this? Can't I just use free monitoring software?
>>738467484
now gtfo faggt
easy
>>738469062
You lack self respect. Which may be why she is (possibly) cheating. You're relationship should cause you this much paranoia. And you won't wonder, if you're young as I mentioned, you have a whole life ahead of you full of better fits
>>738469156
It's kind of forbidden to just make a thread where you need someone to hack her accounts, just look around for experienced users and offer them some money to do it
Or if you have acces to her devices put a monitoring software
But look. Once you pry open her privacy, it can't be undone. It will become a soultion for everything.
My advice is either leave her or confront her about it.
Don't act like a cuck.
>>738469062
Ok, this might sound autistic. But women are good liars, very good liars (had my share with girls in relationships, married ones, one was even just enganged). They can control everything, they gonna act hurt if you ask them if they cheat, accuse you of any and everything blabla you get the idea.
Now, what you canĀ“t controll are the unintentional body signs. Best thing to test is the heartbeat. Lay down with her, lay your head on her warm and soft breasts and casually ask her if she is cheating.
Now her heart rate will go up nevertheless, since such a question makes everyone nervous, but you will notice if this shit pumps up too high.
I know, sounds autistic, but can work, not as a final proof necessarily, but as another hint at least.
>>738467484
the feeling of love you have towards this person is a culmination of hormones in your body trying to make you reproduce with this woman, due to you having different genes and shit like that. There's plenty of others like her and after time your body and mind will stop caring about her and move onto someone else.
I probably haven't helped but oh well
>>738467484
Dump the gal.
Find new one.
Girls are just sacks of meat with pussy. Doesn't matter who you spend live with as long as you get to fuck.
>>738468299
Insecure beta detected
>>738469499
Is there no way to do it without accessing her phone? I read about software that can do it from phoning the device in question, they don't even need to answer it just needs to go to voicemail.
>>738467484
>>738469739
That's not true at all. Some are more attractive.
>>738469545
That's not the kind of proof I need. I need concrete proof, as in seeing messages between her and the person.
>>738469829
Cuck detected.
>>738469847
I'm not NSA, mate
Use your social engineering skills.
Lie and cheat your way to her email pass or something.
If she's using a PC, you can install keylogger type of shit.
Really not the expert here.
>>738469545
This guy might be onto something, but it might aswell be just heartbeat. You need a control test to know if she's lying or telling the truth.
Try catching her in a lie.
Or confront her. That would be the best course of action, braco.
>>738469982
More attractive = more chanes she'll cheat on you
Less attractive = will remain faithful to you
>>738470291
Newfag detected
>>738467484
I didn't read your blog, but I solved your puzzle for you.
Use kali. Linux. Social engineering toolkit. Y. 1. 4. Etc etc you'll find more info online>>738467484
>>738470389
I've confronted her numerous times. She denied it initially and said it was crazy. Then eventually she started getting very defensive when I mentioned it and claiming she couldn't take the suspcion and such, threatening to break up if I kept accusing her.
I want to trust her, sometimes I do, but I hate feeling that way about her, I need to know, The online activity is honestly just so suspcioous. The times match with ridiculous frequency.
>>738470754
>Make an apk using kali .
>install it on her phone
>exploit
>get access to her whatsapp
>??
>profit
How we used to do it in the old neighborhood. One meter, three houses off that meter.
>>738470938
You can also do it to her laptop /iphone / ipad
Honestly half the time I think I am completely crazy and ridiculous for thinking it, confronting her does nothing because no matter how much she denies it or how strenuously it just does not convince me.
>Play board game with her one night
>Get really into the game
>Tell her you know that she is cheating
>If she has a guilty conscience, she will freak out
>If she has an innocent conscience, she will question why you think she is cheating in the game (BS a reason if this happens)
Women cheat on dudes. Other than having babies, it is really the only thing that they are better at guys at.
She's cheating on you.
>>738470938
Is there a way to do it remotely, by phoning her instead of installing it on her phone. I could easily get hold of her phone for that long without drawing suspicion, but I'd rather not risk it.
Doing it remotely seems a lot more discreet, if possible.
And do I need to create it myself? I'd rather get this done quickly.
>>738471459
Doing it remotely is harder tho
>>738471458
What makes you say that?
>>738471480
>>738471014
>>738470863
>>738470688
>>738469889
>>738469438
>>738469278
>>738467484
I win
>>738467484
Wait what? What is it that makes you think she's cheating on you? Because she talks to people on Whatsapp?
>>738471617
You win
>>738471548
Is there software already out there that can do it remotely though? Preferably free.
>>738471725
Yes
>>738471667
I have this gut feeling she had a thing for this guy. And she claims she has never spoken to him other than a few times in person. We all work together, and her breaks always seem to coincide with his. Like I mentioned earlier she is almost ALWAYS within a minute or two of him online on things like whastapp and messenger.
Shits going the way I hope for this thread to go, some enlightened anon to give a name or maybe a link to information on how to exploit somebody's phone. For academic purposes of course
Give me her whatsapp and lets test her loyality
>>738471725
It's called kali Linux. There's also backtrack but kali is easier to find
>>738471824
>>738471824
What is it called? I have een looking, don't get me wrong.
>>738471617
>>738471842
Kali linux . Social engineering toolkit. Do your own research about it. You're welcome
>>738472040
Thanks my man, godspeed you glorious faggot
>>738471845
this
>>738472037
Fuck that's pretty good
Here
>The app thing
https://www.kali.org/downloads/
>How to use it
https://youtu.be/SEVGxIUkhSA
>how to exploit remotely
https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-android-using-kali-remotely-0160161/
>Follow my ig for requests
@obs3ss3d__
>>738470603
Ernest p. Worrel
>>738467484
If there's any doubt, there is no doubt.
Break up with her and fuck her friends. If she asks why you did it, tell her "I know what you did" and say NOTHING else. Eventually she will confess.
Or, she did nothing wrong and will spend the rest of her life trying to figure out what she did. In either case, you have a new girl to fuck. Which is great because pussy gets old fast.
Daisy Chain Networking at its finest.
I have a sort of related question. I few months ago I found a few pics my gf sent to a male coworker, it was a pic of these slutty leather boots she has, then a pic of her legs with her wearing said boots and black pantyhose.
Do you think I got cucked?
>>738472754
Are you mentally retarded?
>>738472754
No. Women send sexy pictures to men all the time. Don't be such a paranoid asshole. When I send dick pics to my sister, it's not me trying to hit on her.
>>738472754
Yes. And honestly, you come across as the kind of guy that probably wants that to be the case.
>>738467484
Piece of bukkake.
What is the easiest, quickest way to simply monitor whatsapp or texts? Ideally facebook too. I don't want to have to install software on her phone, or have her install software on her phone through some fake link.
I just want something where I can call her, then I can start monitoring the messages as they appear.
>>738473125
haha, you are a piece of work.
>>738470603
Autist detected
>>738472940
Well I've been fucking her best friend for about 6 months now so I probably deserve it
>>738473125
Pull a knife on her and tell her to unlock her phone. Then go through her shit. It would be less invasive than trying to trojan her shit or hack her account.
Just break up with her you pussy. If you're at this point in the relationship with her, you obviously don't trust her. Once your at this point, it's either a problem with you or her. Tell her it's not working out and and move the fuck on. Is this really so hard to get? How old are you?
>>738473463
I have the pass to her phone already.
>>738473460
Surely if she trusts you as much as she should, giving you her email password and shit shouldn't be an issue
>>738473690
The thing is if she was going to cheat, was going to message this guy and so forth, she would delete it after. She isn't going to just leave threads there for me to view.
I need to have records of what is sent and recieved from her phone, when it is sent and received. And ideally software that can rack up deleted messages from these apps.
So you've been cheating too?
Kys faggot. I hope she's fucking a big dick nigger. Actually I hope it's ironicāshe's fucking someone with a smaller dick but way smarter than your faggot ass.
>>738474018
>mad
>>738474018
No, I haven't been cheating. I don't even flirt with oher girls. It's just not my thing, I'm a monogamous kind of guy, and I expect utter loyalty in return.
>>738474018
White knight fag detected
If you don't establish that you won't tolerate infidelity very early on in the relationship, you're fucked. You have to assert yourself as the one that pulls the strings, if you can't instill the fear of her not having you once she cheats, she will do just that.
>>738474018
Read, nigger
>>738474116
Sorry anon. The only way you can expect utter loyalty is if you buy Ark and ANS coins.
You basically need millions enough that you have power over themābut you would need to lock her out of the inner circles of other Chads.
But what fun is that? Find someone who makes it so that you don't ever have to feel this way, or step your game up.
Here's a trick to see if whether or not you can trust someone:
If you have to ask if whether or not you can trust them, then you already have your answer.
>>738474396
>samefag
also, make yourself scarce. not completely out of the picture to the point where she thinks you've lost interest, but enough that she feels like she needs to be with you constantly.
>>738474461
>>738474383
>>738474109
And you faggots wonder why you get no ass and stay on here all day. Stop being faggots and go buy some bitbean. Anything to get you summerfags onto another website besides fapping to bronies all day.
>>738474689
>really mad
>>738474828
Could you summerfag any harder?
>>738474885
>maximum butthurt achievement unlocked
>>738467484
why is it that every one of you autistic fags puts the water at the roof line, for fucks sake at least put the pipes where they run if you are going to just take the cop out.
>>738472754
Post pics
Thanks for your help, guys. This shit is really driving me insane, I need to know.
Please give me some definitive answers.
>>738475974
Just dump her you retard.
Jesus, what are you? 14?
ez
>>738476138
No, because other than this fear, she's pretty much perfect. I have zero complaints, I could spend the rest of my life with her quite happily.
>>738476528
There's a lot at stake, so I need to be certain before I reject it.
>>738467484
Use wireshark and wiretap your network over a period of time. Then go through the info packets and see if you find anything strange
>>738467484
Check their messages on their phones when you get the chance or just stalk her/him one time. Should confirm your suspicions. P.S. if you have that "feeling" it's probably true. Be prepared to walk away with a knife in your heart.
>>738477259
She wouldn't do it in my house though, I'm pretty sure of that. That's another reason I'm so suspicious of the online activity times, when she's with me they're not always online at the same times, they're very out of synch.
>>738467484
You should find the guy and suck his dick then the next time she kisses you see if you can detect any of his dick flavour on her tongue. It's the only way to be sure.
>>738477573
Yeah, she would delete it all though, I'm so sure of that. She isn't retarded.
>>738477580
When she is not around grab her laptop and use hidrens boot CD to crack it if it's Windows XP, 7, or 8.
>>738477580
become fulltime stalker
set it up at her house!
watch yourself get cucked
step: 34
PRofit?
>>738477795
If it's password protected she probably would not go through the trouble to delete it
>>738467484
Did i have autsim?
>>738477953
I know her password though. She told me it ages ago.
>>738477580
Yeah get the wifi password for her house and set up there
>>738467484
give me her number or kik, i'll test her
How did I do
>>738472627
>when you try to get some water but get electrocuted and carbon monoxide poisoning at the same time
>>738478349
this OP, get someone to test her
>>738467484
>>738470291
>beta virgin thinks he's above a cuck
Hahahahahahah
>>738478349
OP message me my kik is
throwawaybored_
i'll seriously help you
>>738467484
Greentext time
>be me
>2 years ago
>new GF, have the time of my life
>she always wants to see this one dude each week
>thats odd but whatever
>fast forward few months, she cancels our dates to hang with him
>should'vebailed.jpg but love makes you blind
>we argue over it a shit ton
>heisjustafriend.gif
>fastforward couple more months, breaks up with me
>mfw she is in a relationship with her 'best friend' ever since.
Ive learned my lesson. Don't be me.
Fuck it, I'm not even going to bother. Sometimes the only way to find something is to stop looking. I'm not going to look for it, I'm not going to worry, and if I discover something has happened...
Well, I warned. I warned and I warned. Just tell me and we could finish, lie and continue/end up doing it...
I'm not worried.
>>738479837
If she ever so much as suggested she was speaking to this guy regularly in person, much less going to see him in her spare time. If there was the slightest hint that was even occurring, she would be dead to me. Deader than dead.
If I find out they've ever even messaged each other, even just in a friendly sense, I would destroy worlds.
I'm not you, I would have dumped your girlfriend months ago, the problem is there's no concrete proof of anything untoward taking place. I have absolutely nothing but suspicion and ridiculously coincidental online activity.
>>738476170
So the left house has no heating and the right house has no water. It's supposed to be a test to see how you achieve it, but you've managed to make it into a retardation test by actually failing it.
>>738478156
>2017
>putting utilities in series
What are you fucking retarded?
>>738469278
>Water lines above the ground
try again retard
>>738477795
Stalk her or him. Easiest way.
>>738467484
easiest shit i've ever seen
Question guys, this one girl has a bf but asks me out often to hang with her. I have little to no interest in her.
>>738481494
Forgot to ask. What is dis?
>>738478641
this is a 2d picture there is no Z space retard
>>738478563
100%
>>738480574
>t.babby civil engineer
>>738467484
Are you getting any? Are you getting sharply less than you used to, once this dude showed up on the scene?
>>738479837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znl8VQIxImA
i was the exact same op. just know that she will always be like this and that wont change, so either you have to deal with it, or you have to leave, because she wont.
>>738467484
she is maybe the person you're thinking she is cheating on you with.
>>738467484
Didn't cross any lines, homes, or utility. I do this kind of stuff for a living. Last house gets more heat.
>>738474689
>>738483573
FUCK!
>>738483573
middle house gets no heat. Grats.
>>738483785
Low income housing.
>>738484015
The puzzle is to see if you can understand that the task is impossible.
>>738484128
You can live in the house with no heat.
>>738483573
>I do this stuff for a living
>Client dies of hypothermia
>>738483573
let me guess, PC board designer?
Press X to Doubt.
>>738481343
Shit bait faggot
>>738484530
I design macs.
Well lets ask some important questions first of all OP. Do you know anything about her past relationships? Have you heard any shady stories about her past that might suggest such a behaviour? I know how horrible this shit feels man, hope you get that stuff figured out man.
>>738467484
I have been there man, one of my girlfriends was cheating on me with my best friend. It got so bad it ruined my career my relationship and my friendship. Just walk away, it will hurt for a while, a long while but it gets better.
But that is where i would stop following my example.
See that was my last girlfriend and that was 12 years ago. I have learned to despise romantic relationships. Not that i hate women or sex, but relationships i do hate. My patents will never be grandparents, which they say is ok but i know it eats them alive. I will never know what it is like to wake up snuggled lovingly up with someone in the cold weather.
That is the price of freedom, of sanity. It is a price I am willing to pay because it is better this way, for me anyway.
>>738468792
/thread
Explains the shitty design
>>738470863
I kek'd
>>738484605
you're mgtow, aren't ya? you shouldn't be
>>738467484
Did I win?
>>738467484
Stop having sex with her, even if she forces you fight back. After a month (or less if shes a whore) shell go crazy beggig. If she is cheating on you then shell be fine OR she might want to break up with you
That's somewhat fucked up and somewhat genius
>>738485556
No, you're trying and failing to be funny which is a sign of autism. kys.
>>738484860
I am not apart of any movement but i guess that is the way it is headed
>>738486196
But it's a good system right?
>>738468792
God bless you, my friend: you just told me exactly what I needed to hear in this moment of doubt. May God give you back tenfold just what you gave to me.
So what you gonna do OP?