Give me one good reason we shouldn't. Inb4 treason It was

We totally should, and take Oregon, Washington and whoever else wants to join with us. Without California, the US economy will go to shit

Name a reason you should

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>>738278714
Um... progress, maybe?

>>738278534
>California

>Using firearms

Choose one.

Also Northern California hates Southern California so you assholes would split off even more there. Also literally nobody else gives a shit about the egotistical states (Commiefornia, Texas, New York). Like every person I have met from any of those states has their heads so far up their own asses they wouldn't be able to find their way out if they had a map, a flashlight, and written instructions.

>>738278907
You sound like a poor inbred who clearly doesnt know shit.

>>738278644
>Without California, the US economy will go to shit
what gives you that idea?

>>738278534
I'd love for this to happen. military moves in, kills all the antifa, illegals, sna franciscans and berkley students. the world wins.

Please for the love of god, leave.

And please take your portion of the national debt with you.

>>738279015
>Implying

Go move to Europe if you hate it here soo much.

>>738279053
/thread

>>738278907
This may come as a surprise to you but proficiency with firearms isn't a rarefied skill known only to the sisterfucking rednecks of the country.

>>738278644
Leave washington alone, fucking cali fags have already ruined western wa.

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>>738279015
>Says the person whose clearly from one of those three states.

>>738279034
California is the nations largest economy and also is the biggest producer of food for the rest of the nation. Without California the rest of the nation is poorer and hungrier.

>>738279150
True, but you'll have fun changing mags with bullet buttons every 10 rounds kek

>>738279262
>biggest producer of food
>ill take what is iowa for $100, alex

>>738279262
Enjoy growing sand once you lose access to the Hoover Dam fuckknuckle.

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>>738279262
>biggest producer of food for the rest of the nation
being the biggest producer of food doesn't come near to touching the production in the midwest you retard.

>>738279150
>Again implying only rednecks use firearms

>>738279281
Soo much this.

>>738279494
>being the biggest producer doesn't make you the biggest producer

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>>738278534
>california trying to survive without federal benefits

No state could do that let alone a state that needs billions in federal funds to fund their welfare state.

>>738278534
go ahead. no one wants you here anyway.

>>738278534
>Give me one good reason we shouldn't.

Because you can't survive without the rest of the US. But I'd really like too see you try.

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Hi.

>>738279577
>welfare state
Those would actually be the insignificant, podunk, backwater, ass end of nowhere, more cornfields than people flyover states. These are the states that have almost no economic value and live off the tax money that states like California, New York, and Florida generate. The rural filth would be even more poor without liberal states.

>>738279565
>the state with the biggest production doesn't come near to touching the production in the midwest you retard.
my rage for stupidity clouded my grammar skills.

>>738279732
wow, a genuine california antifa liberal sjw poster.

still pissed at Lacey Green?

>>738278644
>The us economy will go to shit

Are you sure? We'd get rid of a majority of uneducated libtard welfare leeches

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>>738279703
>>738279449
WE'LL TAKE THE DAM

NCR AND PROUD!

>>738279732
>Those would actually be the insignificant, podunk, backwater, ass end of nowhere, more cornfields than people flyover states.

Annnd you really wonder why they voted for Trump. I still have a few gallons of your tears left from November.

>>738279349
Have fun living on wheat while fruits and vegetable become too expensive for you.

>>738279577
californians send more money to the feds in taxes than the state gets back, tard

>>738278534
>Implying California could sustain itself with two large countries on either side of it.

>Also implying that the US wouldn't squash any uprising on its way to the market.

>>738279890
Ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>738279494
>but m-m-muh grandpappy's corn farms!

>>738279906
>Annnd you really wonder why they voted for Trump.
Stupid people do stupid things. Small wonder. I'm just glad the rural filth are killing themselves with opiates and junk food.

>>738279907
A majority of US fruits on the east comes from south america anyways.

>>738279907
we import most fruits you fruit. and i'm pretty sure there's plenty of peach and orange orchards in the south to counteract your bullshitery.

>>738280065
I live in the south. I can confirm grape vines, strawberries, melons, and peaches grow decently in the soil here.

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>Calexit incoming
>military, law enforcement, Hollywood, and most businesses/farmers all get the fuck out
>nothing left but unskilled labor, people needing government assistance (lol what government), gangs, and "morally superior" progressives
This should end well.

>>738279906
>I still have a few gallons of your tears left from November

>I'm so privileged that I voted for Trump just to make liberals angry, because I'm not actually affected by any of the real issues in the US

>>738279999
You do know corn and other grain crops are used in the meat industry right? Without those crops the US wouldn't be able to sustain the amount of meat we raise and harvest.

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>>738279494

>>738280031
>I'm just glad the rural filth are killing themselves with opiates and junk food.

They do that in cities as well you dumb fuck. Also you are more likely to die from a firearm in a city than anywhere else. Have fun dealing with those drive byes!

>Stupid people do stupid things.
Yea like voting for Clinton was a wise choice.

>>738279890
Caesars legions would crush you.

DOESNT THIS BELONG ON /POL/???????

>>738280212
Jokes on you, Cali is full of vegans.
#vegangainz

>>738280166
>California leaves
>Producers in the South raise prices

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>Calexit?
Please do, you all shit where you eat and now you all beg to eat at our tables?
Fuck off.

>>738280250
you realize we eat those animals right?

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>>738278534
>implying a state full of liberal snowflakes can fend off the 100% guaranteed military response

>>738280259
>They do that in cities as well you dumb fuck.
Not anywhere close to the rate that the rural trash do.
>Also you are more likely to die from a firearm in a city than anywhere else.
What a surprise that areas with more people have higher crime rates than areas with less than a thousand people in the whole county. I'm shocked.

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>>738280347
>/b/
>random
You get what you get and you don't pitch a fit

Wouldn't the large companies in cali leave?? They have their foothold in America, not some spastic, short lived country.
So you'd lose all the economic gains real fast

>>738280389
>implying the military can defend against people like me who live in a military town in the South and would have no problem killing the families of U.S. troops deployed to California if SHTF.

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>>738279868
>>738279701
>>738279577
>>738279083

>>738278782
sad little man posted this.

>>738278644
sure kid

>>738280250
There is a third one for this. Fuel.

>>738280588
states don't collect welfare, people do.

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>>738280202
>because I'm not actually affected by any of the real issues in the US

Google Youngstown, Ohio. Eat a dick.

I am someone who lives in an urban environment yet I have seen politicians come here just to clean already cleaned fucking dishes and say "we'll help you make Youngstown they way it was!" only to not be mentioned again until the next election cycle. I voted for him as a giant middle finger to Washington and the cunts on the coasts who live in their fantasy world thinking the world revolves around them.

Pic related. The only man to give a shit in Washington since it was made.

As someone who really doesn't give a fuck either way, it is truely staggering how the calexit people say that cali cuting exports to the remaining states would make the US poorer but dont think for a moment that they import a magnatude greater and would suffer far, far worse than the rest of the union. Macro econ 101 you fucking retards.

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>>738280588

>>738280250
a simple switch is all it would take.

>>738280582
Yes, because people like you can defend against squads of fully trained military soldiers. You fucking dope, what were you even thinking whilst typing that?

>>738280588
People vote republican usually to stop illegals and niggers from abusing the welfare system that democrats pushed for.

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>>738280582
>"I'll kill their families"
>implying said families in the south aren't armed as well
Your post says more about why you guys keep losing than anything else.

>>738279732
your arrogance will be California's downfall

>>738280788
>the cunts on the coasts who live in their fantasy world thinking the world revolves around them.
I have bad news for you pal. Most of the business are based in the coastal states, usually in the large urban areas that are by nature conducive to conducting business. Additionally the coastal areas with the big cities generate the tax revenue that keeps the lights on in the rest of the country. You do revolve around us. Now shut up and get back to work.

>>738280383
of course, they're different segments of the market, saying hurr durr muh midwest corn is equivalent to human consumed produce is retarded. I live in the midwest, there's that one little peach orchard all the city fags go to and aside from the it's just MILES AND MILES AND MILES of corn and soy.

>>738280495
Got a source on any of that?

>>738280939
Just because we're better than you doesn't make us arrogant. It just means you're trash.

>>738280373
Nah. We have these things called "Farmers Markets". Decent prices for locally grown stuff. My state could sustain itself.

>>738280950
>e business are based in the coastal states, usually in the large urban areas that are by nature conducive to conducting business. Additionally the coastal areas with the big cities generate the tax revenue that keeps the lights on in the rest of the country. You do revolve around us. Now shut up and get back to work.

Yea and the food is grown here.

>>738278534
This would guarantee a Republican president for the rest of us for the foreseeable future. Can we do a wraparound coastal exit and include New England?

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>>738280582
Yeah man your state has such a good chance at surviving, what with all those tanks, jets, bombs and artillery that won't be pulled put by the union beforehand y'all have :))))

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>>738280956
>looks at the ingredients of almost every food product in a store
>corn and/or soy

>>738280495
hey its Mr. Rural Trash.
its nice you post that phrase.
it makes it easier to track you.

>>738281008
Fucking this plus growing your own really helps a budget

>>738280495
>What a surprise that areas with more people have higher crime rates than areas with less than a thousand people in the whole county. I'm shocked.
Percentages. Also niggers

>>738280788
>I voted for him as a giant middle finger to Washington
this is exactly what i mean. vote for a politician that'll actually do something for your interests rather than cast a vote out of spite to cause obstruction.
>well nobody wants to help my town, i just said!
that's because your town is a little shithole that didn't economically diversify and thought you could survive off of the coal and steel industries forever. your industries died and your economy suffered because you put all of your eggs in one basket. that's capitalism.

>>738279732
You know, whenever I see someone with this kind of thought I get mixed emotions. It's sad mainly, your being lied to your entire life, the news you listen to and the overpaid professors you idolize fill you with this kind of self-centered propaganda. I honestly can't imagine being this delusional about the world around me. It's upsetting to see anon, I'm sure you're a smart person, seeing that intelligence put to such waste by a corrosive ideology and small method of thinking. You should really get out of the city friend, learn a bit, open your eyes.

But you'll just call me an idiot I guess, that's what your professors would want you to say to anyone who doesn't agree with them.

If California does split, however unlikely, they will have to be fully dependent on the states regardless. It's unavoidable. And look at every past attempt by a state toation split. How does It always end? The violence would kill off half the radicals and disprove the remaining half. Seeing such a mindless thing would tilt the nation decidedly to the right and deter any similar thought for the next generation.

>>738280495
speaking of trash which garbage laden city do you live in?

>>738278534
If you really wanted to stick it to the rest of the country you'd stay. Most of us want you to leave.

>>738280963
Sure, Here's an article based off a report issues by the CDC earlier this year.

https://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/resources/news-and-research/opioid-overdoses-deaths-higher-rural-urban-areas

"Excess death rates from unintentional opioid overdose remain considerably higher in rural areas of the US, and according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)"

"Opioid-related deaths, in particular, remain a prevalent issue for rural communities, with approximately 50% higher age-adjusted death rates compared to urban areas of the country."

>>738281201
for your interest.
you sound like a leach.

>>738281209
you can smell the bullshit from here.

>>738281284
this means what?

>But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

Founder approve, go for it

>>738281133
>all the garbage processed food uses cheap staple crops
got a genius in the house

>>738281140
>multiple people have low opinions of the rural people
>it must be one person shitposting, surely nobody has ANY reason to look down on rural people!

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>>738278534
You won't do it.
No balls.

>>738281452
no its you.

>>738278644
>not knowing what New York is

>>738281417
The Founders also cautioned against changing government for "light and transient causes."

>>738281326
*Leech

>>738281410
>asks for source
>presented with source
>"what the hell is this source supposed to be?"
Christ.

>>738281444
>vegertarian food in a store is junk food
Wrongthink detected.
Your comrades would like a word with you.

>>738280878
>implying a mother with kids is going to be armed to the teeth when she's trying to get her kids out of a burning house
>>738280855
>implying you can protect everybody from terror-style attacks
>implying you can protect anybody

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>>738278644
>Without California, the US economy will go to shit

>>738281612
didn't ask for source.
you dumb bitch.

>>738281674
Wrongthink
can you be more of a faggot.

>>738281209
I was born and raised in an insignificant rural town. I left after high school and have never once gone back.

>>738281585
Im not a calexit fag, id be happy to see them go, though. Also thats subjective

>>738281686
>>738281674
>>738281612
>>738281585
>>738281525
>>738281515
>>738281462
>>738281452
>>738281444
>>738281417
>>738281410
>>738281368
>>738281326
>>738281284
>>738281257
>>738281213
RUSSIAN BULLSHIT. THIS IS A RUSSIAN SCAM.

>>738280866
people vote republican for lots of stupid reasons. the three G's have always been big - god guns and gays, these days they like to rant about those illegals a lot too, regardless, they usually vote on random values judgements that don't matter a damn to the running of a nation. They don't know or care to know how policy actually works or what's causing their problems, just so long as their guy says what they want to hear.

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>>738281686
>burning women and children alive
>tolerant and progressive
Doubling down are we?
Bold strategy, let's see how it works out for you.

>>738281736
Then you're clearly not the person I was responding to who asked me for a source for my claims. Didn't your whore mother teach you how rude it is to try to join a conversation you aren't capable of following?

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>>738278534
shitty idea, but good bait. gj OP, but you're still a faggot.

>>738281368
Sad

>>738281209
>everyone telling you stuff is lying to you
>i made up my own philosophy based on my vague knowledge of things and filling in the rest with assumptions, i'm so woke

pfft

>>738281797
we needed to know this?

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>>738281849
*chuckles sovietly*

>>738281674
soy burgers are garbage, eat a steak faggot

>>738281868
>tolerant and progressive
Not every Democrat agrees with everything the party stands for. Just as I'm sure not every Republican agrees with everything their party stands for.

>>738281907
then you real dumb bitch

>>738278534
California and New York should just exclude other states and call themselves the USA

>>738281919
sad truth, you meant to say

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>>738281914
Thanks.
Fuck you too Barry.

>>738281929
I dream that one day you'll crawl out of the city. There's hope for you yet buddy!

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>>738281849
wew lad

>>738282012
>Just as I'm sure not every Republican agrees with everything their party stands for
RUSSIAN BOT DETECTED

>>738282105
lol

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>>738281943
That was in response to the comment by >>738281209 who recommended I try leaving the city. I was telling him that I'm actually from a rural area originally and know firsthand how much of a dump rural areas are and how right liberals are about rural people (even if they're a bit rude in how they convey it). I didn't quote his remark in my statement so I can see how someone with poor reading skills could see it as unrelated information. It's ok though, I forgive you.

>>738282105
fake news

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>>738281929
>armed to the teeth
This isn't cowadoody kid.
One round will put you down.
But by all means, try.

>>738280788
>Ohio
stopped reading there. you live in an important swing state, of COURSE politicians are going to come and try to sway your votes in their favors. just accept that your shitty coal jobs aren't coming back, diversify your economy, and move on. or is the government supposed to come give you a bunch of handouts because learning a new trade is haaaard?

>>738282330
shut the fuck up asshole

>>738282810
another dumb bitch

I like California as a cash cow for the rest of the country (which by the way hate you people). You're not going anywhere.

>>738282810
>just accept that your shitty coal jobs aren't coming back, diversify your economy, and move on

>I know nothing about the state i'm talking about

ohio is rustbelt, retard. learn a bit about the world outside your basement.

>>738281209
>trying this hard to imply people are sheep while you're enlightened
your Fox and Friends buzzwords are showing there m8

Why not?

>>738283091
fine, then your shitty STEEL jobs aren't coming back. same point applies - you're putting your entire economy in a single industry, and now that industry is dying out and you all act fucking baffled as to how it could've happened. then again if you actually were smart you wouldn't be doing a job that machines could and are doing

Go for it, looking for a reason to leave the state anyway.

>>738278534
What do you plan on drinking once the out of state water pipes are cut off?

I'm not gonna say you can't, but you faggots act like shit is as easy as getting guns and blasting shit on the streets.

Nigger this isn't the 80's. This is instant death drone shit now boys. You fuck around hard enough and we aren't talking fight bluefags with riot gear. We are talking unmanned death drones that can fly in out of nowhere and precision strike that ass anytime they feel like it at no risk to themselves. What are you gonna do? Blast the drone? That's cute. Assembly line is the new world order bois.

Don't you fucking forget it.

>>738279262
I think you wanted to say the majority exporter of dairy. But you are dumb enough to think librals with little firearm training could even make it past the local sheriff's dep much less the national guard. You wouldn't even get the attention of the active military

>>738282827
I like how you butt in to a conversation you weren't paying any attention to with a dumb question and yet I'm the asshole.

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>>738278534
Fuck you California, we Oregonians fucking hate you. We've hated you long before it was cool to do so. Please do leave so we can sell you OUR WATER at jew prices.

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This is why

>>738281868
Most people who die in house fires die from smoke inhalation so it's not as drastic as you're implying.

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>>738278534
can these cucks not get hard unless they imagine making out through their masks during a riot?

I'd like to watch the movie. I remember reading an article about what would happen if Cali broke off from the US (geographically and politically, after an earthquake along the fault). Military and political leaders commented about what would happen, and its economy couldn't sustain itself long enough for the rest of the States to basically put it under siege. Experts said it would last 2 months tops. The limited gun laws in Cali would limit the firepower of militias, so they are kind of screwed in terms of insurgency.

>>738283811
doesn't trump want to defund most of these services anyway?

califag here, i'm liberal, i hate trump, but i think a calexit would be a goddamn disaster. any possible military situation aside (i like to think it wouldn't turn into civil war 2 but who knows), setting up all of the logistics, from border travel to reorganization of citizenship to economics to who knows what else would be a fucking mess, and isn't worth it just for trump's <4 years left in office. i think it'd be better to stay and fight him

>>738283278
>you're putting your entire economy in a single industry, and now that industry is dying out and you all act fucking baffled as to how it could've happened.

>I know nothing about the state I'm talking about

what is this? the 80s? fucking retard.

>>738283811
Holy shit black Lives Matter bought 15% of California! Fucking sneaky niggers.

>>738284087
needing to know about ohio like it's at all important
ok

>>738283592
Yea do that, order drone strikes on the population. Then sympathetic guys like me target the families of the drone operators as described previously. Set the houses on fire then shoot the family as they flee. How many U.S. troops will be willing to raise arms against Cali if they know their family may personally be targeted?

>>738278534
No, you should Calexit!

>>738278534
according to us law, you would be attacked by the entire us military save for the californians. you would lose real quick

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>>738284255
you're spewing blanket generalizations like you have a clue about anything

news flash, you don't

try reading up on things before you run your mouth

>>738284288
Do you have a list of drone strike operators you could send my way or are you just blowing this all out your ass? Also do you really think the military / government is retarded enough to not hide those families once the motive became clear?

>>738284288
you pretend that burning houses will do you any good.

I've got delusions too my man. At least I see em for what they are.

>>738284402
Yes tell me more about how good the lazy chucklefucks in the military are at subduing a population that refuses to be subdued.

>give points about calexit possibilities

>"YEAH WELL WE'LL JUST FUCKING KILL U ALL THEN LOL WE HAVE GUNZ"

truly a compelling argument, so well thought-out

>>738284472
>Also do you really think the military / government is retarded enough to not hide those families once the motive became clear?
Do you really think that everybody can be protected? Hide the families of the drone pilots and the targets switch from them to the families of basically anybody who is stationed at that base. Too many people to protect.

>>738284486
>you pretend that burning houses will do you any good.
If you make people afraid to do their duty then you can see change from the ground up when more and more people refuse to follow orders for fear of retribution. It's the same tactic I advocate against cops.

Lmao faggots thinking the US goverment would even allow california to leave. Faggots BTFO

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>>738280999
>Just because we're better than you doesn't make us arrogant. It just means you're trash.
>Laughs uncontrollably.

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>>738278534
Because if we calexit then Mississippi and Louisiana won't get to live off our federal tax dollars.

It's only fair that the blue States pay 99% of the federal taxes and receive less back, so the red states can get $3 back for every dollar they put in.

Because free capitalism is the only successful way. Stop this entitlement communism

>>738278534

As an east-coaster, I am begging you to leave.

It would be one of the best things to happen to America in decades. Truly. We'd get rid of a nest of Leftist morons (example: your state Senate recently actually passed a single payer health bill that would cost twice as much annually as the state brings in in revenue), as well as a host of Hollywood celebrities.

But, unfortunately, the truth is that you will never leave. You're just larping and being a drama queen.

As a state, you're like those vapid, virtue signalling millionaire entertainers who, whenever a Republican looks like they might win the Presidency, threaten to leave the country. They never do.

You all keep talking about how the US military would come and raze all of California if calexit were to happen... you do realize that the US can't just do this willy-nilly because CA doesn't agree with them, and that they'd get a shitload of flak from it? if not among politicians in Washington itself, then most likely from other blue states and liberally leaning areas of the country.

>but the civil war!
the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter and were the ones to start the war

California can't leave. You don't have the power to wage war against the govt

>>738284990
By money, California is the government

>>738284990
>You don't have the power to wage war against the govt
I seem to recall similar things being said about the Taliban. Over a long enough timeline, the insurrections wins out.

>>738284990
>leaving = declaration of war
no

>>738285206
The govt wont allow a major economy to leave just because you feel like it. It's war

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>>738284074
>doesn't trump want to defund most of these services anyway?
Also
>defunding the DOD
kek

>>738285166
Pfft comparing the Taliban to a bunch of limp wristed liberals

>>738285280
Then it becomes a states rights issue and the federal government has a much bigger issue on their hands.

>>738285289
I wasn't talking about the DoD you fucking mongoloid, i was talking about the Forest Service, NPS and BLM. do you know what the word "most" means?

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>>738285356
>implying and other state would jump off the cliff with California
Maybe Washington, but then we'd get Cascadia.

>>738285421
Be specific next time.
Still waiting on those sources.

>>738285340
A car bomb wired by a hipster will kill you the same as one wired by the Taliban.

>>738278534
do it faggot

take your shitty, dehydrated, antifa and illegals ridden libtard state and GTFO

>>738285655
>car bombs and felony arson
Winning hearts and minds, one post at a time.

>>738285718
lol

>>738285718
It's not about winning hearts and minds, it's about getting you to fuck off. Different tactics to accomplish different goals.

>>738278534

howd that work out for cletus mein nagger?

>>738285552
>I can't understand from context because I'm autistic

This is a vapid argument among neckbeards on an anonymous imageboard, not a fucking federal court case. Get over yourself.

>Still waiting on those sources.
Sources for what? I think you're assuming I'm a different anon.

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>lesbians making out on top of the car wrecks
how PROGRESSIVE and COOL

>>738279890
Thanks anon, made me giggle

>>738278907

Man, you give a gun to the niggers and cholo's in SoCal and they be shooting each other, mofo.

>>738279281
>implying Californians can't read a print and run a milling machine


>>738285798
See, all these future libcon bourgeoisie that infest this place forget that life is not a debate, and that dead people don't have any interests.

>>738278534
Well, you already got rid of most of your guns.. Matter if fact, San Francisco has literally zero gun stores in the entire city. Good luck defending yourselves against literally anyone, including the national guard. Us San Diegans, are more than happy to have camp Pendleton between you faggots and us.

>>738285877
tbh i think if you told them they'd have free range to kill invading whiteys that they'd overcome their differences and fight together

imagine the urban guerilla gang soldiers, killing people via drive-bys and alleyway executions

>>738286051
Would Kek SO HARD.

>>738285822
>"I wasn't talking about the DoD you fucking mongoloid, i was talking about the Forest Service, NPS and BLM."
So what was the point of this if you didn't post>>738284074
?

>>738286051
>imagine the urban guerilla gang soldiers, killing people via drive-bys and alleyway executions
It would be like the Iraqi insurgency on steroids. U.S. troops would be cornered in urban areas, shot to death and their bodies would be looted for anything useful.

>>738285982
>California would be left totally defenseless!!!
You do know the US National Guard is composed of each state's individual National Guards? Which mean California has its own

>>738285877
Trying as hard as I can to find a problem with this, coming up empty-handed

>>738285280
>The govt wont allow a major economy to leave just because you feel like it. It's war
Only because there are no provisions written into the Constitution allowing for such an occurrence. Clearly, the Constitution is defective in that regard, and the sooner we fix it, and the sooner the (((oligarchs))) die, the sooner we can all be free of this bad marriage made in hell.

>>738286179
And you believe that the Fed's wouldn't immediately take over their command? Seriously, how many people in the Cali national guard would roll with this compliantly?

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>>738284074
>4 years left
You mean 8 right?

>>738286179
>because the "National" Guard has never been used in the interests of the nation
Not like they ever deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan oh wait...
You have to be 18 to post here kid.

California doesn't have enough money to pay for welfare, healthcare, and education for it's entire population, plus the thousands of Mexican immigrants they'll allow into the "country."

>but muh highest state GDP

The US will more than likely cut trade between it and Cali, so not only will they have to rely on imports for goods they can't produce, they'll also have a much smaller market to sell the goods that gives them such a high GDP.

TL;DR: basic economics is one good reason why you shouldn't

>>738278534
It has no meaning? There's enough liberty for you within the USA

>>738286179

who is the commander in chief of the armed forces? ill wait

>>738285982
>thinks guns come from a store
>hasn't heard of voentorg
You're pretty cucked if you think retail commerce has anything to do with armed insurrections. Literally kill yourself, Smith & Wesson shill.

>>738286328
>wouldn't immediately take over their command
>command was flawlessly obeyed in 'Nam

>>738284074
>califag here, i'm liberal,
Then you should be first against the wall, center-right cocksucker.

>>738286328
>Seriously, how many people in the Cali national guard would roll with this compliantly?
Considering the alternative would be to betray their loyalty to the state they're sworn to serve and join arms against their friends and neighbors I wouldn't bank on the California National Guard being willing to follow an order to federalize.

>>738286429
WRONG
AMERIKKKA MUST BE DESTROYED

>>738286385
>still believing the Earth will make it past 2020

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>>738286407
>they'll also have a much smaller market to sell the goods that gives them such a high GDP.
>thinks the world is small
>thinks the other 95% of the world's population is small

>>738286429
>There's enough liberty
>teading liberty for security
>in reality, getting neither
>being this cucked to a marketing slogan

>>738278644
Leave Washington out of it. You can take Seattle only.

>>738286446
Point was, libfags in Cali have very few ways of actually defending themselves. I'll gladly fill my neighbors corpse with copper and lead the moment he thinks about joining the separatists if they succeed.

>>738286407
6th largest economy on the PLANET

>>738286452
You guys seem to think cops have no problem killing locals, why would the national guard?

>>738286496
that's what the rich want you to believe
you'll be left with a smaller weaker state and the same wealthy stratum with the same influence
then they will say let's divide California, since any government hinders amassment of our money

Cali exit happens you are all fucked.

What kinda doctor wants to work for you? what kinda of police would actually stay for you? the only people who would stay are dumbasses and the poor

>>738286698
>I'll gladly fill my neighbors corpse with copper and lead the moment he thinks about joining the separatists if they succeed.
And I'll gladly come to your house when you're away and kill your entire family. What exactly have you won then?

>>738286715
>bigger is better
Oh you.
Don't you have a BBC thread to start in /gif/?

>>738286895
gets to seem like a big tough kid, of course!

>>738280518
the original is either in black in middle , or in the card shirt far left

>>738286895
>Coldsteel: the post

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>>738278534
Go already, sit in your dysfunction and rot.
Jefferson stays, and good luck with that NAFTA application...

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>>738287109
Try again, please.

>>738287134
If someone commits violence against you you are justified in committing violence against him. If California leaves and the U.S. military is deployed then they open themselves up to violence against them and those they care about. The idea is to show them that subduing California is more trouble than it's worth.

>>738279449
Haha, this exactly. Their water will be cut off and sold to them to farm. It will go to shit quickly. I just left CA for a free state, I hope they split. I'll go back armed and ready.

>>738278644
Oh no what will the US do without liberals and oranges

>>738286698
>Point was, libfags in Cali have very few ways of actually defending themselves
If the National Guard is in, they have plenty.
>I'll gladly fill my neighbors corpse with copper and lead the moment he thinks about joining the separatists if they succeed.
>is completely defenseless without firearms
Any tactical advantage over you will be used to kill you. Are you seriously such a fucking larper that you can't think of any kind of battle that (((Hollywood))) didn't illustrate for you in glorious 4k?
Stop watching television and grow some fucking imagination.

>>738286809
>What kinda doctor wants to work for you?
The ones that already do.
>what kinda of police would actually stay for you?
Good riddance. Only the property owners gain benefit from police.
Even the California GOP is more economically left-wing than your larping student ass. Kill yourself now.

>>738287323
>The idea is to show them that subduing California is more trouble than it's worth
This.

>>738280315
i'll punch caesar right in his fucking brain

>>738287444
Florida oranges my man.

What all these little muh right-wing cocksuckers don't seem to be allowing for: allies. If you think China's going to side with the Union on this and not feed all sorts of humanitarian and other supplies to the separatists, you're clinically fucking insane and need to stop smoking your shorts.

>>738287323
I actually agree, which is why all military assests would be removed pre-Calexit and you would be cut off.
Enjoy negotiating with the Chinese.

>>738287698
>implying you could forcibly remove material from a people who refuse to allow you to leave.
U.S. troops stationed in bases in California will be lucky to leave with their lives, much less their equipment.

>>738287694
Ask Africa how the Chinese treat non-chinese with little to no military power.
Shit, just ask a regular chinese citizen.

>>738287698
China is actually taking steps to modernize itself and cement its place as a 21st century global superpower, so we'd probably get a pretty good deal

>>738287807
>Antifa vs marines
I hope they livestream it.

>>738287858
Gold luck with that.

>>738287879
Yes, those Marines do SO well against an insurgency in an urban environment.

I think I speak for most of Washington State when I say: please leave. CA weed is shit tier compared to ours, and you have too many shitskins. Leave.

>>738278534
Link to PDF?

>>738287942
they'd stay at pendleton. you would have to raid the camp. being as they have supplies and armor; i'd say they'd be pretty safe.

>>738287879
A few well placed roadside bombs would bring any convoy trying to leave California to a halt. Then they would be sitting ducks and would have the option to either fight and die or not fight and maybe not die.

>>738287942
They do when it's weapons free, which it would be against an insurgency on US soil.
This wouldn't the Obama administration's ROE.

>>738279053
>forgets about all the military installations in California
>thinks that when order Californian troops will kill and detain their family and neighbors

>>738288120
>They do when it's weapons free
Like Vietnam?

>>738288119
Please do this.
I'm not being sarcastic or ironic at all.
I want to see you and your black-clad skinny jeans wearing ass flying apart as an apache takes you out.

>>738280212
You've never heard of hay?

>>738288204
>he actually believes this
Children shouldn't post here.
Go enjoy summer vacation.

You guys are a bunch of fags lol. You all think you're so cool. So quick to make your little shitty statements thinking your cool. Fuck u

>>738287814
>Ask Africa how the Chinese treat non-chinese with little to no military power.
>Shit, just ask a regular chinese citizen.
Ergodic:
>of or relating to the condition that, in an interval of sufficient duration, a system will return to states that are closely similar to previous ones: the assumption of such a condition underlies statistical methods used in modern dynamics and atomic theory.
The world is non-ergodic. All you boot-licking Amerifats are too busy larping the past to come up with new repertoire.

>>738288386
>You guys are a bunch of fags lol. You all think you're so cool. So quick to make your little shitty statements thinking your cool. Fuck u
underage AND summer?
On my /b/?

>>738288278
>bring military force to bear on an urban population in America
>sympathizers in other states begin to target the military forces stationed near them in retribution
It's like you want this >>738286895 to happen all over the country.

>>738288386
Threads over guys, we got told.

>>738288366
>He thinks Vietnam didn't show how useless it is to try subduing a population that refuses to be subdued.
I bet you believe we won in Vietnam and only see it as a loss because of dem librul protesters

>>738288449
They're Americans. They lack the capability to think past their own next move. They really and truly cannot help that they're just /v/assals and can't strategize their own way out of a paper bag or a set-piece battle.

>>738288449
>Calexit types think the majority is sympathetic to them, or wouldn't purge sympathetic elements that tried to coordinate with their efforts
As another anon said, please try.
November was a drop in the ocean of (short lived) surprise that awaits you.

Go for it bro, you can take all the blacks with you too.

>>738288579
>thinks Rambo is how Vietnam went down
Burger education everyone.

>>738288739
>purge sympathetic elements that tried to coordinate with their efforts
Oh, so you're simultaneously trying to subdue California AND purge the remaining states of any who may be sympathetic to them. You may be biting off more than you can chew.

>>738288924
Again, if you're so confident then go for it.
I'll enjoy the footage.

>>738278534
How about the fact that the supreme court has continually ruled that unilateral secession is illegal?

>>738289021
They won't.

>>738288828
What are you talking about Rambo for? Vietnam is proof of how difficult it is to conquer a people who are committed to resisting you. America is ultimately a very stupid nation so we failed to learn that lesson and needed to be taught it again in Afghanistan and Iraq.

>>738289021
>I'll enjoy the footage.
It'll be something like this, only here in the U.S. and with a LOT more dead troops. The government and military is not prepared for the havoc that a domestic insurrection can wreak in this day and age.

>>738289126
>politicians had no involvement in hamstringing the US military starting with and since Vietnam until this point
It's almost like you never read anything beyond your remedial history class in secondary school.

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>>738289344
Shit I forgot the picture.

>>738289373
It's almost like you didn't know the military is subservient to the civilian government and not the other way around.

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>>738289344
Talk is cheap.
Until I see it you're just pissing in an ocean of piss from behind a keyboard.
You won't do shit, and never will.

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>>738289454
And look who you have in charge now.

>>738289594
Good, he'll send U.S. troops out on half baked plans and get them killed.

>>738289454
You didn't refute my point.

>>738289668
I put their odds of survival higher than yours, billy badass.

>>738289685
politicians don't "hamstring" the military because it's not the purpose of the military to run amok with no oversight. The government keeping the uneducated riff raff in the military in line is what they're supposed to be doing.

>>738279015 He's correct. North Cali here, I can confirm 99% of us hate the pussy prettyboys in South Cali.

>>738281157
even in the fucking desert in Arizona we have these everyone. Apparently shit can be grown he thanks to the aqueduct and resivour system