stoners of /b/ im so angry right now i live in California so

>>738233894
Buy a bowl or some raw cones from the grass station

>>738233989
Aren't those the pre-rolled joints? I'll look at em.

Also still live with parents (who are strict catholic fags) and no joke bi-weekly search my room for contraband. So that shit's risky for me because it will = kicked out onto the streets.

>>738233894
for one, that's a fucked up blunt, not a joint you're putting way too much green in there.

dog thats way too much fukcing weed bruh, you gotta be delicate, joints aren't supposed to be big

>>738234216

Probably should have specified that isn't my picture it just looks almost exactly like what I roll but better packed.

>>738234323
line it with just enough green that it barely covers the width of your fingernail while keeping it thin, then pack and roll with both fingers, hold the paper with your pointers and roll with the thumbs.

>>738234811
>>738234323
if its too thin, add another layer the same as the first, but for the most part unless you have baby hands, it should be enough for a good size.

i dont even smoke weed, but i roll my own cigarillos

Absolutely pathetic I've been rolling joints since high school.

If you're too lazy go to the smoke shop and buy a joint roller.

Or be a real man and roll that shit before you fold it up and lick it so it doesn't look like an Italian Sausage.

Just get a small pipe

Joints and bongs are for sharing

do a proper tip filter and it will be a proper joint
rolling is practice, but i admit i took 1 or 2 month to learn how to roll properly
still smoking, and the roll only gets better everytime

you need to practice. that is the only way you will get better. just keep rolling a joint and then breaking it open and roll it again. eventually you will be great at rolling.

>>738233894
Light on the touch, fam. The shit "rolls itself" just guide it with your fingers

>>738235095
>>738235059
>>738235004
>>738234923
>>738234896
>>738234847
>>738234811
alright appreciate the help guys, I usually smoke alone so im probably just gonna get a small pipe until the end of my days. But it's sketchy because if my parents found it I would be kicked out of the house with no where to go :/ Thanks though!

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>>738233894
Fucking kids man i swear...

>>738235328
>automatic roller
thats homo dude

>>738235366
>efficiency
>homo
Fucking kids man i swear

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>>738233894
I use this. With practice I can make 3 joins in 5 minutes. Some packs of papers even come with cardboard strips for tips, that way you aren't sucking on a hot roach.

>>738235366
I hear that alot but I gotta agree with
>>738235414
My friends say they are the best way to get the most of your roll.

>>738235414
rolling barehands is less complicated than using your bullshit tool
>can roll with hands on the outside while theres wind
>can't get a clue of how this shit's works
Only fucking kids mans use this

>>738233894
Sneak-a-toke. Small bowl for a hit or two. Or just a pipe. I didnt really see a bad way to smoke. There's rolling machines for tobacco you could use if you had a good grinder.

Buy some rolling tobacco and practice. That stuff is way easier to roll than with straight weed and it'll get your fingers used to the action required. Also, no chance of being kicked out of your house if caught.

>>738235492
>less complicated
Rollers are infinitely easier than hand rolling, son. While youre trying to hand roll your dank pinner, I'll be finishing up my 7th perfectly rolled joint that burns evenly and hits better.

Fucking kids man...

Would $70 cover a pipe and grinder? Or am I looking into $120+???

>>738235638
we get it, you like to have sex with children, fucking pedo.

>>738235686
>fucking pedo
lol what?

Use way less weed, make a crutch, use the pointer finger on your right hand to help with the tuck.

It takes practice. If u don't want to keep a roller u can use a dollar bill to help roll the joint.

Start from the middle and roll out to the edges. Remember, it's all in the thumbs. Good luck anon.

Use a roach (little cardboard rolled up filter thing whatever they're called where you're from. You can get a little roach card booklet or just cut it out of train tickets etc.

It allows you to get a proper roll going and stops you having a disgusting soggy bit of paper that hardly tokes and wastes weed. I honestly do not understand the american style as in op's pic, seems like a dreadful way to smoke.

>>738235709

>>738235638
>Fucking kids man...
>>738235414
>Fucking kids man i swear
>>738235328
>Fucking kids man i swear...

--
i wonder.
pedophile.

>>738235868
Also have you used a grinder? That looks awfully lumpy. Focus on pushing the weed into the bottom of the paper with your thumbs to properly make a cylindrical shape rather than a teardrop which can happen if you're not pushing the weed down enough (and tap and poke the weed after rolling, before twizzling the end).

>>738235907
Only a underage pedophile would jump to that conclusion when hearing a common saying from their elders

>>738235638
>perfectly rolled

Those joints are not even cone shaped, they are straight like ciggarettes. This means you have to use a big ass filter for them which is way too harsh of a smoke. Self-rolled is always the superior choice.

>>738236037
>m-muh cone shaped
Fucking newfag.

>>738236037
Only homosexual pantywaists use filters

>>738235671
Anybody?

>>738233894
Too little to stuff an apple pipe? Dog?

>>738236027
>underage
>pedophile

pick one, you cant be both, you fucking moron.

if youre underage, you cant be a pedo if youre fucking with people your own age.

>>738236158
Thats plenty

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>>738236158
You can get a decent bong for 70$, you don't need a grinder, just use a shotglass and scissors.

>>738233894
Roll the paper around a paintbrush and stick the glue then take it off and stuff it full of ground up weed.

>I cant roll either but my GF rolls amazing joints this way

>>738236273
Kys, you fuckin retard

>>738233894
back in the old days when I smoked I couldn't roll either in the start. I don't know how many fucked up joints I built, destroyed, start again etc. until it worked out. but I remember sitting in my room and just doing it over and orver again. so. PATIENCE.

>>738234923
>bongs are for sharing
ho ho ho ho ho I enjoy your naivete oh young one...

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>>738236332
says the retarded old man who's a pedophile.

pic related, take the hint

>>738236307
Don't laugh but I tried that once and ended up breaking the glass and badly cutting my hand up. I think ile just stick to a pipe and grinder hahaha. Also a bong is ways harder to hide than a pipe.

>>738235671
yes that will be more than enough pipes are like 20 bucks and grinders are like 40 for a 3 stage.

>>738235671
I'm from the Uk but that seems extortionately high. You can get a little plastic grinder that will do fine (might get a bit sticky) for 1 pound so I assume a dollar should about cover it, although for a nicer metal one with a kief collecting dish it's more like 10-15. Get a little bong off the internet for like 20-25.

>>738236444
>>738236332
>>738236273
>>738236027
>>738235907
Trolls trolling trolls ITT

>>738236497
Awesome thanks man, now I just have to figure out how to get one. No smoke shops near by so I have to rely on the internet but parents cock block my mail : /

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>>738236454
weird, I've been using a shotglass and scissors for years. Were your scissors too heavy or something? A pipe will smell, maybe get a tiny bubbler or something?

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>>738236553
at least one other person in this threesome isnt an idiot, like the pedophile.

>>738236524
Do not get one of those plastic grinders they gum up and all your kief ends up all over the fucking place instead of getting seperated off into its own little place. 3 stage > all

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Like pic related op.

>Roll a filter
>put the filter in one end of the paper
>hold it with one hand and put in the weed in a cone shaped distribution, less close to the filter, more to the end
>roll the weed between your fingers with the paper in a U-shape untill the weed is somewhat packed
>start to roll in the corner at the filter end then work your way up making sure its snug
>once you have a nice roll lick the glue and roll it in
>tap the joint on a hard surface like table or thumb nail to pack it
>roll the end to seal the joint and feel so that it's not packed to hard you want some air in there
>smoke.

>>738236569
wtf are you 13 or something?

>>738236027
holy fuck you're autistic

>>738234133
Maybe don't smoke? I can't believe you are risking several years of trouble to just smoke some weed.

That really isn't worth it man.

>>738233894
I used to practice with oregano when I was in HS.
Roll joint.
Fail.
Break it.
Roll again
repeat until you don't suck. Or buy a rolling machine, those work for retards.

>>738236670
prolly just a NEET m8

>>738236635
Maybe they were, but ile consider the bubbler. My main issue is how im going to get it and where to hide it as my parents frequently search my room because they suspect I smoke.

>>738236676
>autistic
Dank buzzword, fam. Spout the rest that you know in an attempt to get a rise out of someone

>>738236691
>I can't believe you are risking several years of trouble to just smoke some weed.

Look at the pussy everyone lmfao. Weed isnt even a "scary" drug fucking teenagers smoke that shit.

>>738236645
Also make sure you can suck through the filter, it should not be too tight for obvious reasons but if you make it too loose you get weed in your mouth.

>>738236670
No, just no place to go. Im 19 doing community colleague, my parents are strict catholic faggots so it's tough.

you should absolutely learn to roll, it just takes practice.

before i learnt how to roll properly i used to put my roach in the paper, then roll it around a pencil so you had an empty joint ready to fill with weed. worked pretty well honestly

>>738236747
Make a pipe out of wood....its really really easy.
Just dont use poison oak or sumac.

>>738233894
take your time when rolling one and don't stress it, there's no need to hurry and make it shit.

After awhile you don't have to take that much time and you'll be rolling joints in 20 seconds

>>738236420
?

>>738236553
kids kidding kids more like

>>738233894
Practice.

>>738236803
Im not talking about it being illegal or some shit

I'm talking about him getting kicked out of his house, possibly impacting his ability to go to college or whatever.

Weed is alright, hell I'm smoking right now. But it is not good enough to risk losing massive opportunities.

Learn how to make a roach
Don't try and put in so much that it's thicker than the roach until you know how to roll
Even it out before you start rolling
Using your thumbs and index fingers, roll the smoke into a cylinder. If you're struggling to get this right practice with a piece of paper first so it can't fall out the top.
Wrap the end without glue around the cylinder, then tuck it under the rest of the paper. Roll the remaining paper around the cylinder.
Lick it and stick it
Smoke up

>>738236837
just cut a hole in your mattress in the corner near the wall...put the pipe in 2 plastic baggies so it doesnt smell and if you're lucky your bed has those plastic corner covers and you can just slip it back over the hole and no one will even know. That or in your computer case/speakers. Anything that requires a screwdriver to take apart your parents wont look inside, if its gonna make noise put the pipe in a (clean) sock inside the baggies.

Listen to me young padawan the force is strong within you.

>>738237068
fair enough.

>>738236984
If you're not 1 ripping bong bowls you arent smoking properly.

>>738237028
I like your thinking.

>>738237158
>I like your thinking
A kid would.

>>738237158

Yeah but who says I cant pass the bong after I hit it ? I even make a point of it to completely kill the hit so it isnt blazing anymore when the next guy wants to pack his hit.

Yeah, sharing a single hit is gay af

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someone say kids?

>>738233894
Nigger go buy cones.

>>738237068
I get it isnt worth it but I use weed to cope with most of my stress and I know that isn't healthy but it helps.

>>738237094
I have a Fallout Anthology Mini nuke case thingy that my parents don't know opens. I keep my weed in there so I think I can fit a pipe, keeps the smell non-existent too!

>>738237300
No body said kids.you can leave now

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>>738237477

>>738237477
How old are you OP? If you're an adult you have the right to speak to them and suggest you should be given more privacy and respect. It's their house but you're their son, and I'm sure they'd understand you asking to be treated a bit more like an adult if you're calm and reasonable about asking.

>>738237700
I wish, but my father was raised by a fucking Nazi of a father and my mother is basically a religion nut who cucks for my dad with everything. My entire life has kinda sucked because of how strict they are but the provide food and shelter so I can't hate them. Im 18, turning 19 is August. If you found hard evidence I smoked pot I would be out of the house no matter what. It's not worth asking because then they will just look even more, it sucks being treated as a child when you are a fucking grown adult but oh well I have no where else to go.

>>738237477

if you use weed to cope with your stress youre doing it wrong.

Thats how you get addicted (yes, also to weed, no maybe not a bodily addiction but a psychological one)

>>738237260
you could in theory I was just pointing out they are not used ONLY for sharing like a joint/blunt

>>738233894
Holy shit save ur weed and make a bong man.. have you got a plastic bottle hose and some can?

>>738237892
By stress I mean just when I get pissed off about something/have a shitty week ile smoke a ton and it gives me time to think of happy things. Not an addiciton I assure you.

>>738237700
Yea and they as the owners of the house are going to say fuck no

Make a grav bong.
/thread

>>738237989
Starts that way then you end up smoking every day after work then every day before work then at work.

>>738237862
>treated as a child when you are a fucking grown adult

Only thing you can do is act like an adult and try and change your situation. Try and save up enough for a deposit to move out. If you're legally an adult and your parents don't respect that, you have no obligation to respect the petty rules they put on you. As long as you're not acting like a dickhead you're the reasonable one here and you'd be totally in your right to ditch them or ask them to respect you a bit more.

Biting the bullet is what you need here I think, either by getting a better living situation or calmly confronting their shitty behavior. Emphasis on the calmly part.

>>738238074
Well once i'm done with school i'm gonna talk to a recruiter and try to enlist in the USMC. So I doubt weed will take over my life, but I appreciate your help.

>>738238165
While I have some money saved, I plan on enlisting in USMC for some-odd years then try renting an apartment or something until I can make something of my life.

start at one end and slip the corner of the paper under and tuck it in, so it doesn't fold at all. keep rolling it in your fingers. the weed should be tightening in on itself. hold it in such a way (figure it out) so that when you keep rolling up the rest of the joint, the part you already rolled isn't becoming any looser.
once you get this technique down you will roll cigarette-like joints more efficiently. think about it, you could spend a couple bucks on papers, then you have x amount of attempts to roll a joint. worst comes to worst you give up at some point in the process and put it in a bowl. you still get to smoke your shit. the loss is like a bit of time and minimal traces of keef. it's a good skill to have, esp if you aren't a blunt smoker. in a pinch, wherever you are, for whatever reason, you can pull out some papers and roll yourself a joint with no hesitation.

>>738235638
This. Been smoking for a long time, work smarter not harder. But kids are fucking retarded.

Youre trying too hard OP. Go slow. Instead of actually rolling you could lightly folding it

>>738235328
>>738235423

Dont use this, its fucked

Just try at a few times without weed...
For $10 ill give you private lessons

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get a rolling machine you stupid fuck

>>738238521
Lol, appreciate the offer but I guess I'l learn with time, but i'm more of a lone smoker so I guess a pipe/bong is better for me.

>>738233894
Buy a pouch of tobacco and papers to roll your own cigarettes. That's how I learned how to roll. When I bought my first pouch of Bugler I didn't have a fucking clue how to roll. By the time I was finished with that first bag though I finally had it figured out. Practice makes perfect

>>738237989


Its just incredibly dangerous to tie something like taking drugs (even pot) with a specific event (beeing stressed for example)

Thats how the shit spiral started for me ..

Playing some vidya and smoking pot while playing. At some point decide (was playing LoL) that I'll just take a hit right before the game (loading screen). Did that for a pretty long time. Now my body sees these 2 actions as one and everytime I want to play something I kinda have to take a hit of a bong before it otherwise Ill just not feel like it.

Thats already shitty, now imagine switching out "playing a game" in my example with "beeing stressed"

>>738233894
practice practice and more practice

>>738238634

I get where you're coming from, maybe saying I use it to cope with stress is a little extreme. Basically I use it to calm my nerves after a shitty day or week. But I do use in moderation I know when I need to take small breaks. Still appreciate the advice though, will consider it.

>>738238599
Ive been smoking for last 7 years, every day
Tried it all.,,,,
A normal joint is always better than bong etc,
especially if you smoke alone

>>738238984
Definitely will try to learn then, but now my main priority is how im gonna get my hands on a pipe and grinder since this entire time of smoking I just finger pick my weed apart.

>>738233894
use filtertips?
Raw makes them

>>738239094
My idea of that
is that youll be stoned for +- 20 min
But if you roll a normale joint, youll be stoned for 40+ mn
Sorry for my bad english, typical dutch guy here

>>738240495
Different methods of smoking dont make it last longer. THC is THC. It'll be processed in your body at the same rate.

use a crusher you dense motherfucker
gonna be easier to model it into shape

>>738233894
fuckin' degenerate

>>738240646
not the guy, but you deliver it in a different rate. if i smoke a good joint alone it can take from 10-20 min, bong is one or two hits for same amount

Buy a cigarette roller from a gas station.. or fold over part of the paper on the non gummed end to make a little trough, put your weed in, shuffle it until the weed settles into place, then pick up both ends (gum and the end you just folded) press them together and roll both sides past each other to make the bud form a tube in the paper below.
Then roll it back down to one side, press paper over the weed tube, roll over on a flat surface while holding down the weed, then roll it tight, lick the gum and seal
Honestly im bad at explaining things but this is how I roll joints. Basically the same way you use a cig roller but not as neat

>>738240646
True, but if you take 1 bong hit, the THC works 'instant' if you smoke a joint(in 15 mn) you will slow that progress and get longer stoned

>>738233894

Why dont you just get a shitty little $10 one hitter from the gas station..

Or better yet, next time make a grav bong
You need
>small bucket
>soda or juice bottle with a well fitting cap. Thicker plastic is better
>socket from a socket wrench or the stem from an old bong.. avoid galvanized metal. I'm using a shell casing but my gun fanatic brother told me the metal wouldn't release fumes (cant remember what type it is)
Cut the bottom off the soda bottle, insert into bucket filled with water. Melt a hole in the top of the cap and push the socket through, trying to make it a tight fit (tbh I've used things to seal in the socket before but it pretty much all released fumes and I stopped using it. Gaskets work okay but they still get hot if you pack the bowl too full)

Load cap with weed, screw on bottle, apply fire and lift out of water, take off cap and either lift the end of the bottle out of the water and draw the smoke up or push down and inhale quickly (try not to drink the water. Blech)

It's not hard, but it's hard to describe in text.
Yours looks like a corpse in a trash bag though.
If you can't roll by hand, buy a cigarette rolling tool and use that.

>>738240899
THC takes like 5 mins to fully enter your bloodstream regardless iirc. Intial feeling is placebo/light headednesa

>>738241285
And how many times did you smoke a bong?

>>738241304
I've smoked bongs, blunts, pipes, grab bongs, everything.
It hits your lungs instantly but you won't feel the full high for 3-5 minutes. Blunts just suck because they waste weed because the cross breeze is constantly burning the bud even when you dont drag. Imo I feel the most high instantly when I smoke blunts because of the nicotine in the wrap. With joints I feel like I hit a point where I'm just as high as 1 hit from a grav bong, but then i dont get much higher.
Imo, joints and blunts for parties.. grav bongs, water pipes and normal pipes for smoking alone. I can't ever smoke a blunt quick enough by myself to make it worth it

>>738235227
you're probably better out of the house anyway, your parents sound gay

>>738235227
I used to hide mine in the bottom of some shoes I never wear

>>738241304
the instant dizzyness after smoking a bong does not come from THC but from a lack of oxygen in your brain and also your bloodstream slowing down and having low blood pressure right after a big hit. That is also why some people might have to throw up right after smoking a bong (sometimes happens to me) not because the weed was too strong or too much its your circular flow slows down

>>738241853
I think we cant compare this shit, the weed in my country is probleably has way more thc
I also smoke normal sigi so the nicotine dosnt help
>Imo, joints and blunts for parties.. grav bongs, water pipes and normal pipes for smoking alone. I can't ever smoke a blunt quick enough by myself to make it worth it
Weed in waterpipe is retarded

>>738242197
No shit?
>smoke so many, cant get dissy anymore

imo, smoke 1/3 of a gram(here 10EURO) in an normal joint with half a sigaret of tabacco, way better than bong, pipe, vape, waterpipe./..

>>738242476
Weed in a bong is retarded.. okay buddy.
Your weed is shit and that's why you roll spliffs.

>>738233894
Dawg, I feel your pain, I couldn't roll for the longest.
Asked my parents if they could help, stoner parents aren't even good for teaching you to roll a shitty.
It ended up taking countless attempts, manchild moments when i throw a little tantrum over not being able to do it.
Oddly enough I move back to my home town, move in with an old friend(life fell apart sorta, fixed it now) one of my best friends from third grade, went on field trips with this guy and shit. Well this guy, let's call him Moose. He looks like Sam from Supernatural, it's funny.
Well good ole' Moose Knuckle apparently is a god at rolling. Like the first J he rolled in front of me went together in like 2.5 second, never ran, it was the bomb.
I end up working the courage up, Moose helps me, I roll a joint, I roll better joints than Moose now, according to him.
TL;DR. You got this anon, just keep trying, I also wouldn't mind to help you out dude what part are you getting stuck at?

>>738235328
Dont listen to this fag

>>738242583
Yea, the shops in the netherlands sells bad weed ;)

>>738242710
I mean considering I live in a legal state in the US it being legal has jack shit to do with quality.
Spliffs are gross. Get better weed.. or better yet, vape it.

>>738242804
Vape is quite good, if you buy a vape for $150+
Do you happen to know the thc % in the weed?

>>738235638
Stop lieing faggot

>not growing your own weed

this is why we have problems in life

seriously, grow a pair of balls. unless you live somewhere where the police remove your testicles and send you to prison for 20 years, go away and grow. Don't tell anyone and you won't have anything to worry about.

>>738236691
>Risking several years of trouble

Lol tf u even talking about?

>>738242858
I have some cheese right now that's rated at 20%.. really that isnt the only factor into good weed though because ive had bud rated lower that gave me waaay more of a physical high

>>738242963
Grow weed in a hollowed out dresser ffs. Takes like $80 to get the lights and fans and shit

>>738243304
Nice
The amnesia they sell here has around 33 %
That right, a lot of more shit
http://www.williewortelsinsemilla.nl/wiet-menu

This is a flashier, make you look like a show off, way to roll.
But it's actually easier than any other way, and you burn off the excess paper
http://www.weedfarmer.com/joint_rolling/flaming-backflip/flaming-backflip.htm

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>>738233894
>Make long and not too slim roaches
>Start by rolling weed down so it doesn't fall out of joint when rolling it tight
>Start tightly rolling the paper from the roach to the tip
>Tuck paper in at roach end and run your thumb along it to tuck it in all the way along the joint.

Never give up Anon
>

>>738233894
Try using a dollar bill. Set your paper in the dollar bill length or width wise(sticky strip facing up) depending on how large you paper is then simply roll till your weed kinda forms a tube, make sure not to make it too tight. Eventually you should be able to take the one side of the paper and tuck it into the other around where the weed is. Then roll and the rest of the paper should tuck by itself. Then lick the sticky strip and voila, dasa spicy pizza pie.

>>738235328
What kind of faggot uses that thing

>>738233894
Hang on. Ill give by step instructions

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>>738233894
I got u covered. this is the guide I used when I started out. works every time.

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>>738244484
Heres what you will need:
Some ganja
Tobacco (optional for spliffs)
tip papers (index cards work too, just tear off a rectangular piece of the same size. This is preferrable if you are trying to have as few weed paraphernalia items as possible)
king size papers (regular size are worthless)

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>>738245042
Roll up your tip paper about as wide as an ordinary cigarette and put it in your paper with about this much bud/spliff mix. Notice the tobacco "buffer" so you dont have to smoke down to your fingers to not waste weed.

>>738233894
Buy a stealth pipe. When I was new to smoking 17 years ago I had a pipe that hid inside of a hi-liter.

>>738235868
I prefer them this way. I save all my roaches and have emergency bud this way. I don't understand why eurotrash mixes tobacco in their joints, now THAT'S fucking dreadful.

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>>738245485
Roll it up like sushi until you have something like pic related. Start at the tip end and roll toward the end. (I forgot to mention, im right handed but im told i roll leftie so do whats comfortable.)

>>738236037
>This means you have to use a big ass filter for them which is way too harsh of a smoke.

Not everyone smokes nasty harsh bud faggot.

>>738245485
I always just make my paper filter longer. Makes it easier to pass as well

>>738237477
You live with your parents, def. In high school or just a fucking NEET. what stress could you possibly have faggot?