Anybody here think that criticism to Trump is misguided? I'm

>>738177012
Try /pol/ faggot

I pretty much agree. While someone with such thin skin probably shouldn't be President, I don't think it's half as big a deal as every leftie thinks. They also don't seem to realize it's their own fucking fault hes in the white house to begin with.

>>738177012
Fuck off faggot LARPing right wing retard. Go suck his fat ass if you like him so much.

>>738177260
Riiight, the libcucks forced the right wing turds to vote for him at gunpoint or else.

>>738177264
I literally stated that I don't like the guy.

>>738177264
Go back to tumblr, aids skrillex

>>738177405
A lot of people voted for the guy out og spite. People didn't like the thought policing on the left. Trump was just a "fuck you" to PC culture. That was his appeal.

>>738177012
Nope. While I don't think Trump did anything wrong. He's too dumb for that. Flynn had some questionable connection and communications with foreign entities and sessions lied under oath. I saw it with my own eyes. Trump continues to be his own worst enemy. This all started, because hIs garbage on twitter he posts. He constantly contradicts his spokes people, like about Comey being fired. He's a man baby.

I voted for Obama and Clinton, but liked Kasich. I hated Obama, but disliked Romney even more. I would have voted for Kasich.

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>>738177012
>I'm by no means a fan of the guy, but
Not the strongest opener there, Sparky. Tariffs are the purview of Congress and the only jobs Donny has created were to bring Mexicans in to pick his grapes at the Trump Winery in Virginia. As for his dumb tweets, Spicey declared them to be "official statements", so good luck defending that one.

>>738177663
This and regressives acted like Bernie was their Mohammad and Hillary Satan. They deserve. Trump won by 77k in voted. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson got a lot of millenial votes. I had friends who said they would only vote Bernie.

Not they're bitching about Trump, fuck off.

>>738177720
I liked Kasich, but I'm a Rand guy at heart (yes, total libertarian neckbeard). And yes, Trump would be better if he'd stop tweeting stupid shit.

>>738177839
I'm saying that government can't do shit to actually create jobs (read Hazlitt) amd tariffs are ultimately an economic shitshow.

>>738177260
sure kid

>>738177720
another dumb fuck millennial

>>738177839
sure kid

>>738178569
Most people here are millenials.
1981-1997

(reposting from other Trump thread because I need answers)
Why do liberalism and conservatism not exist anymore? Why have they been replaced with authoritarian left wing extremism (SJWs) and libertarian right extremism (alt-righters) respectively? And why do both sides insist that the other has always been that way? I'm a non-insane liberal, what happened to my party? Will no one stand with me against the alt right WITHOUT making fools of themselves and being cringy thought-police rainbow-retards? God fucking dammit!

>>738177405
I didn't vote for him and I'm not right wing. But nor could I have stomached voting for the cunt. It was lose/lose so I voted libertarian. My county has gone Dem in every election the last few cycles, so fuck it.

And yeah, I actually know a lot of fucking people who would have voted for ANYONE but Hillary. But you keep telling yourself whatever you want. I'm sure you've got the world pretty figured out.

When does summer end, anyway?

Tariffs are bad - source: Economic history. All of it.

>>738178839
A lot of people say trump is a libertarian. Being one myself, I don't think trump is one, especially economically. He is a protectionist and not a big fan of free markets. Sure, he's socially liberal on a lot of stuff but libertarianism isn't just "socially liberal/fiscal conservative " There's more to it than that.

>>738178826
another dumb fuck millennial

>>738179235
they get even dumber

>>738178839
I am a liberal and think blm, antifa and trannies are fucking idiots. There are a lot of out there, but we have good jobs and we are not retarded. So we don't stand in the middle of expressways.

I watch a lot of atheism-is-unstoppable on YouTube. He's funny and I relate.

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>>738177012
Ron Paul was salvation.
Hillary was 4 years of nagging.
Trump was 4 years of fuck you for not voting for Ron Paul last election.

I went with C

>>738179363
You may enjoy Dave Rubin then.

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>>738177177

>faggot

HOLD UP
HOLD UP

>>738179237
I'm a left leaning libertarian. A lot of Trumptards are confused about what it means, they use it all the time. If you believe in immigration and trade that Trump supports, you're not a fucking libertarian. We believe in personal choice and not allowing government to tell us what to do. Trade should be free and if Mexicans want to work for 2 dollar cleaning toilets or picking oranges, I don't give a fuck.

>>738179434
This works.

>>738177012
>I didn't like Obama for justified reasons
>I'm a racist

>>738179271
I should shove my cock down your throat and bust my load. You seem angry and you will like it.

>>738178030
>I'm a Rand guy at heart
Idiot.

>>738179271
Give an example where they've benefitted the consumer. - you can't.

>>738178473
Nice comeback, Trumpbilly.

>>738179271
>old guy complaining about them dang youngins

>>738179528
>Hillary was 4 years of nagging.
>I'm in high school and I'm sick of my bitchy mom

>>738179528
Then you have only yourself to blame.

>>738179709
>Expansion of socialized welfare programs that will never be paid off and will fuck us over in the long run
>Heightening racial tension to levels not seen since the sixties
>Killing Ghaddafi and destabilizing the middle east
>Doubling the national debt in just eight years.
>Kissing the ass of every world leader.
>The AHCA shitshow
I know he was born in the states and I don't give a fuck that he's black. I care about this kind of shit^

Trumpy isn't as thin-skinned as people think. There is no way he would have had any success in the business world if he was. He is narcissistic.
Narcissists do care what people think of them.
However they can compartmentalize thoughts, so that it won't effect them at all. He "knee jerk" twitter shit is compulsive responding. In his head, he thinks that if he doesn't hit back, that he may be perceived as weak, and a target. Not sure why the best thing is to disregard, and say he doesn't care, Too late now. Leaders like Putin are laughing. Trumpy is just playing a role. He is probably the most advised president in modern times. Even dementia-ridden Reagan.

>>738179363
I was on board until you mentioned the trannies.
The vocal minority of transgender folk are speaking out on the wrong issues, in the wrong way, at the wrong time. Their philosophies are indistinguishable from those of Trump tards. But do me a solid and don't pin that on transgender folk as a whole. Most of them aren't like that. The only ones you see are like that because the fact that they're like that is why you see them.

>>738180230
You mean Medicare and social security too, right? Because these old fucks want to retire when their Bitch asses can still work. Then live until 86 and spending millions on cancer and Alzheimer's treatments to give them an extra few years.

Those programs were created for people who couldn't work, not just didn't want to. Baby boomers are shit heads. Selfish ones.

I agree about racial shit.

>>738180230
>Heightening racial tension to levels not seen since the sixties
>I'm a racist

>>738180513
>Baby boomers are shit heads. Selfish ones.
Baby boomers benefited from the socialist New Deal policies then turned around and cut off the very next generation from what made them so prosperous.

>>738180086
If by blame you mean fist bump, so be it.

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>>738180052
Right, cause only moms nag, it's not universal to all women i.e. wives, girlfriends, pant-suit wearing bureaucrats.

>>738180881
Why do you hate women? Is it because they don't pay any attention to you?

>>738180881
Not him but:
>sarcastically saying that not all women nag
>therefore obviously meaning to say you believe that all women nag
kill self

>>738180881
>universal to all women i.e. wives, girlfriends, pant-suit wearing bureaucrats.
>Sick of women treating me like scum so I'll never vote for one. Bitches.

>>738177839
Covfefe nigger

>>738180263
Be bankrupted every business outside of NYC real estate. Which is idiot proof. You can buy beach from property in LA and a 3rd floor apartment on 5th avenue and they will only gain value. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

>>738179878
implying like only a retard can

>>738177012
americans are annoying retards in general. so their way of criticizing trump is bound to be misguided and dumb, but their support of him is ten times worse.

>>738180025
can't grasp the context of two simple words.

>>738178569
>Muh buzzwords

>>738180513
says the unemployed millennial

>>738181250
Are they on your lawn again Grandpa? Is the music too loud?

>>738177012
The media criticizes his stupid policies plenty, but people seem more interested in the russia/comey thing and the retarded tweets. The news business is a business - they publish what people pay for, or will click on. There's no grand conspiracy.

>>738180697
sure kid

>>738180973
Yes, neither my mom nor my wife nor my girlfriend pay any attention to me, and I'm real broke up about it... about being nagged so much I feel ignored.

>>738181113
he says confefe, you say confefe.
he controls you.

>>738181201
sure kid

>>738181308
I'm an engineer bitch. Nice try though. I made 60k out of college and make close to 90k now. Eat my dick you old fossil fuck. Not my fault you don't have any skills.

>>738181095
I'm stating outright that all women nag. Try to keep up, junior.

>>738181319
sad.

>>738181492
sure kid. proof of your claim. two minutes

>>738181448
Weird, you must not get out much, it's matter of public record. Like bankruptcies are down thought the court system.

>>738179434
The one thing shadman makes that isn't completely disgusting and is actually pretty wholesome and it's genderbent Trump.

I hat him so much,

Trump is the living embodiment of the character of Pere Ubu from Ubu Roi. America is his Poland. He's vulgar, he's obese, he's paradoxically charismatic, he's taken over the throne with his narcissism, shit philosophies, and corporate greed, he's started the retarded declarations, he's started the taxes, it's only a matter of time before he starts executing all the nobles under bogus charges to take their land and Obama's secret son Bougrelas steps in for an old fashioned duel to avenge his father.

>>738177012
Probably. I don't give a fuck about what "critics" annoy you or anyone else. If that's your criteria for evaluating the structural changes being made to the country and its laws and policies right now, whether cunts on tv or whever are annoying, then you're the kind of retard I don't need another opinion from, and the sources you're basing your stupidity on aren't worth a shit. So sure, they're misguided because they annoy you. Whatever you want to call it, none of it amounts to anything faggot.

>>738181585
sure kid

>>738181616
so what's it like living in your fantasy world?
is the food good? women pretty?

>>738181582
Not my fault a Mexican who can't speak ingles, is 5'1 and illiterate is taking your job picking oranges away or painting.which we can trach monkeys to do.

>>738181510
No, you weren't. You were implying it by sarcastically stating the contrary.
But that's irrelevant. Stating or implying, you believe it, and therefore you should commit sudoku immediately. Preferably on the hardest difficulty your phone app will allow.

>>738178030
He'd be a lot better if he hid how fucking stupid he is from us?

He would still be as shit as he is, it would just be slightly less easy to spot.

>>738181632
Sure kid.

>>738181758
You obviously don't get the reference.

>>738181582
well look at that four minutes and no proof.
not suprised

>>738181850
Sure kid.

>>738181768
no proof then? only the same old, lame old responses.

>>738177012
If you understood the implications of a president having ties to a foreign power that has traditionally been our enemy and has potentially put him in power, you would be a little less annoying by the critics. As it is, you are definitely the one with your head in your ass.

>>738181096
Your logic is soft.

Someone who complains about being nagged by all women, probably isn't someone women don't desire to nag.

>>738181582
everyone's a sure kid

>>738181947
Sure kid.

>>738181843
there was a reference?
you claimed trump is going to go on a killing spree.

>>738181624
Maybe because critics can shift public opinion in a detrimental way? And ultimately that can come back to fuck people over in the future? Kind of like a less dangerous Joeseph Goebbels

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>>738181613
>I hat him so much,

>>738178264
This post is a really good example of someone trying to sound smart by saying nothing

>>738181797
Coco the gorilla has a bigger vocabulary than the president of the United States. And he thinks our education system is sub-par.

>>738182023
Yes, and you told me I lived in a fantasy land. That implies you thought this was what I actually believe and not hyperbole to express how much like Pere Ubu he is, which suggests you've never read Ubu Roi and don't get the reference.

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>>738182102
Do you want me to write a doctoral thesis on it, your highness?

>>738181792
All women nag.

>>738182157
Trump, I mean, not Coco. Coco is okay with it.

hero of robert de niro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9VpstqZk8

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>>738182278
Kill yourself.

>>738182264
I'm pretty sure anything would be better than "Hueee economic shit show"

>>738177839
>person twitter
>official statements
Wut

>>738182358
Jesus lady, quit telling me what to do.

>>738182184
so this Pere Ubu, that's trumps real name?
then why do people call him trump

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Best President EVER! Desu.

>>738177012
Libs literally mocked Trump the week before the election for suggesting election results could be questioned. They LAUGHED at the suggestion.

Now they won't stop bleating about it despite there being no evidence of it.

The Left continues to call falling for a phishing scam as a "hack".

They are responsible for his win because they nominated an in your face skank that couldn't stop lying about her criminal behavior.

I'm no fan of Trump, but I'd take him any day over any apologist blame America first Muslim apologist.

His nomination of Gorsich alone makes the media circus worth it.

>>738178826
1981 is not millenial you worthless sack of whale cum

>>738182555
No, no, Pere Ubu is a fictional character. Ubu Roi is an 1896 stageplay. I'm saying Trump is a lot like Pere Ubu.

>>738182533
Kill yourself m8

>>738178264
The government was never meant to be an economic power house that creates jobs and wealth. Or else the world would have been communist decades ago.

It simply applies aid to areas of society that would not naturally grow a profit, defend the nation from physical and economical threats, and ensure liberty and opportunity to all in a fair way.

In other words
>It was never meant to be run like a business, you commies fucks

>>738182651
Maybe 10 politicians in America know the difference between phishing and hacking.

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>>738182712
Whale cum?
As in "whale-cum to 4chan?"
Because that would be well suited for such a raging newfag as yourself.

>>738182820
a fictional character.
go see a shrink.
you can't discern fiction from reality.
did the cyborgs from the future send a terminator to kill you Sarah Conner?

>>738181768
>a Mexican who can't speak ingles, is 5'1 and illiterate is taking your job picking oranges away or painting.
This is why it's hard to take people seriously when they complain about illegals takin' der jerbs. If you do a job that can be taken by an illegal then you failed at life and you don't matter. Just get a better job.

>>738182921
Right back at ya, sis.

>>738182820
Why the fuck are you trying to explain that to someone that's obviously being obtuse on purpose?

>>738182712
Suck my dick nigger.

>>738183020
sure kid

>>738183087
What if you do a job that can be taken by a computer? So don't you complain in 5 years when it happens to you.

>>738183082
I'm not saying he IS Pere Ubu.
I'm saying he's LIKE Pere Ubu.

>>738183122
kl slf m9

>>738183214
Then you learn more marketable skills and stop being complacent. No one should quit learning. You shouldn't just have on skill.

>>738183162
No I'm serious, I work in IT security at a high level. Trying to explain the difference between phishing and hacking to a 50 year old is like trying to teach a dog how to split atoms.

>>738183087
If you can do a job then why would it be an insult to you that an illegal can also do it? It's not like there's a species difference.

>>738180280
>ppl nurturing their mental illness and calling it their "identity" are cool ppl
kek

>>738183214
Almost every instance where computers or machines were introduced to an industry led to that industry growing and actually adding jobs, like when people complained that ATM machines would put bank tellers out of a job but the banking industry added more teller jobs in the years after ATMs were instituted. The only instance of a human job being completely eliminated by machines is elevator operators. That being said, if I knew I was working a job that was in danger of being eliminated I'd work to improve my skills and work for a better job.

>>738177012
If conservatives would ever admit his mistakes or failings, liberals would be a lot more forgiving. But literally everyday it's "You guys are all wrong, I'm the best, I'm the smartest, so deal with it" and that's the response to every situation. Anyone who can't see why that's infuriating is either retarded or in the cult

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>>738177177
You should go to reddit where rest of the mentaly ill are.

>>738183368
That's the right attitude, but it won't save you. Go watch kurzgesagt's video on automation. The problem won't be unwillingness to learn, it will be that the machine can learn faster than you can.

>>738183453
It's not meant to be insulting. But it is hard to take their concerns seriously when they do blue collar busy work that gets done just as well for cheaper by illegals. Nobody cares about the blue collar nobodies.

>>738183393
If you phish and then you use the information thus gathered to remotely obtain root access on a computer without informed consent of the owner, how is that not hacking? The only difference is you don't have to exploit security flaws or guess passwords or prime numbers.

>>738183393
He pissed cause he's a baby boomer with no skills.

>>738183162
youre the smelliest kind of cunt

>>738183299
Listen lady, I don't know what I did to piss you off so much but why don't you just settle down, have a seat on the couch, pop another one of your HRT pills, and forget about this whole conversation.

>>738177720
Voted for both clinton and obama you dump fuck.

>>738183468
Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.
Being psychologically transgender but still identifying as cisgender because you think you have to is the mental illness.
That's called gender dysphoria.

>>738183706
im not even who youre arguing with, but you sound like a faggot. kys

>>738183637
It's not hacking because it requires no computer skills what so ever. It's social engineering, and there is a difference. Some would argue social engineering is a subset of hacking, but if it involves no IT knowledge it is usually considered a separate attack vector.

>>738183903
>Transgenderism isn't a mental illness.
Saying something doesn't make it true.

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>>738182927
>It was never meant to be run like a business
Tell that to the people who voted for Trump because he would "run America like a business."

If you've never heard dozens of rednecks say it's time America was run like a corporation, then congrats on not living in a red state.

>>738183903
ok m8 the entire field of mental health is wrong and the ppl who make up genders are right.

>>738183963
See rest of post.

>>738183570
I know. I've read books and articles on the subject. It's already happening with cashier work, store employee work and video stores. Self check out, online shopping and redbox/Netflix.

Low skill work is in jeopardy now and mid range workers need to up their skills. I only have two kids, because I know their won't be jobs for the next generation with technology taking over.

>>738184077
No, the field of mental health is of course right, you just misunderstand them.
See rest of post.

>>738183915
Typical mean girls, telling everyone to kill themselves. Why don't you get involved in a women's club and talk through your anger.

>>738181624
...
Are you serious?
If you knew how to read, you'd actually see you say the same shit as OP, except more retardedly

>>738183783
Yep and will vote for the democratic nominee again. Also in a swing state bitch.

>>738177546
Kek

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>>738183980

>>738184166
kek maybe you need to "see rest of post" you fucking autist
>>738183963

>>738183903
Fine wear whatever you want, but you either male or female. That's what we need to go by. Biological sex is what matters.

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>>738184167
>o no my little fem feelings

>>738184083
Gender and sex are the same thing and are determined by genetics. If you feel like the sex opposite of what you actually are you have a psychological condition which requires treatment. If the Democrats would back off this nonsense and other assorted identity politics we'd be more appealing to the moderates and would win elections again.

>>738184420
Truth. Next we will appease anorexics by acknowledging their obesity,

>>738184489
Or schizophrenics by telling them the voices are real.

>>738183903
ok and a guy who thinks hes a dog is really a dog, but hes mentally ill if he tries to pretend he isnt really a dog, am i following your logic?

>>738184402
Click on catalog at the bottom of the page, there's probably a cock rate thread on there to cheer you up sunshine. Try not to imagine daddy.

>>738184327
I don't agree. Everyone can go by what they see fit to go by. A person's feelings around gender is not a public issue over which everyone else is entitled to an opinion. It's private business. That's why I don't agree with the "I demand you respect my identity because that's totally your business for some reason" philosophy, and it's why I don't agree with the overshot backlash "I demand you privately identify as your biological sex because that's totally my business for some reason" philosophy

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>>738184650
>"daddy"
>being this insecure
kek never filled daddys shoes eh?

>>738181616
I only knew Pere Ubu as a band name

>>738184779
then why is it everyone elses job to call them by their preferred pronouns, which clearly contradict the physical clues to their gender? o ya cuz theyre such special snowflakes, they not like everyone else

>>738184779
It didn't become an issue until transgenders wanted to start winning glamour girl of the year of complete in female sports. Or walk around with their dicks out in female locker rooms or qualify for programs that are for women. They have made it my business.

>>738184799
No, I meant me. Try not to imagine daddy = try not to imagine me filling your holes. You could never live up to my standards, I didn't want you to get false hope.

>>738184324
>>738184327
>>738184420
>>738184489
>>738184585
>>738184637
Are you the experts? Do you write the DSM? I thought not.
Anyway, see: >>738184779
You've probably got my position all wrong. The issue isn't whether it's a mental illness, the issue is this isn't even a real thing we should be talking about can we please just leave them alone and move on.

>>738184779
>A person's feelings around gender is not a public issue over which everyone else is entitled to an opinion. It's private business.
If that were true then they would keep to the bathrooms of sex on their birth certificate and this nonsense would be but a drop in the bucket. Instead it's this whole big thing because NC didn't want to pander to their delusions.

>>738185092
And if anyone dare question it, they're transphobic. They also want to be able to date you without coming out as trans.

>>738184959
>then why is it everyone elses job to call them by their preferred pronouns, which clearly contradict the physical clues to their gender?
It isn't, but it is their job to leave them alone about it. That's been my position from the beginning.
>>738185092
Why are you talking about a vocal minority like they're all of them?

>>738177012
Can we all at least agree that the gnomes in the Shannara chronicles are fucking disgusting.

>>738185176
>If that were true then they would keep to the bathrooms of sex on their birth certificate
They do. Again, vocal minority.
>>738185209
Vocal minority.

>>738182420
You been asleep for the last couple of months?
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-tweets-spicer-official-statements-621919

>>738185374
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Maybe the less vocal majority should tell the vocal minority to shut up about insignificant things.

>>738185460
Yes. I agree. I've agreed all along, and if you people would actually read conversations before barging in on them, you would know this. See: >>738180280

If you're suffering from gender dysphoria and choose to get a sex change then you're part of the problem. Get real treatment.

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>>738181113
Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois introduced the "Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically For Engagement" Act that would amend the Presidential Records Act and require the National Archives to store presidential tweets and other social media interactions.

>>738185460
Continued from >>738185594 : To clarify, my point has been from the beginning, try not to grease the whole fucking car for having one squeaky wheel. That's what this conversation is actually about, I'm unclear as to how it devolved into this bullshit.

>>738185823
If the car has a busted engine it stands to reason you need a new car. Ban sex change operations and make the only option real treatment for their psychological disorder.

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>trump does something the media likes
"trump has changed for the better"
>literally didnt change

>>738177012
>making sense
>on /b/
good luck, Anon. good luck.

>>738185374
By again. What's going on now isn't a minority. You have people advocating for children to transition and put on medication. You have people who suggesting heterosexual males and lesbians should date transpeople, despite not being attracted to their genitals.

There's also the issue of the high suicide rate that remain nearly the same even after transition. Meaning we need to talk about. It doesn't mean people are bigots.

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>>738186117
>There's also the issue of the high suicide rate that remain nearly the same even after transition.
Sounds like the problem solves itself in the long run.

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>>738181616
You are not alone. It seems the play has been resurrected and mounted several times since the Resident Dump has come to power.

>>738185912
Real treatment entails guiding them to accept their transgender identity. I'm not making that up, that's the expert consensus and that's what's practiced. Sex change operations, ehhh, I don't approve either but it's their body, I just wish sex change operations wouldn't be shilled and pushed as a totally okay thing to do and not a last resort if there's no other way to be comfortable in your own skin. To me, an ideal solution is one where mentally transgender people can comfortably privately identify as their mental gender without having to change themselves in any way and not make a fuss what pronouns people use for them.

>>738186325
That's amazing. I need to see one of these sometime.

>>738186370
>that's the expert consensus and that's what's practiced
Experts used to recommend lobotomies too.

>>738186370
Most transwomen don't pass. Go to reddit do I pass. Look like dude with wigs on. Transmen look like Justin Bieber with big clits.

It's hard to see a tranny trying so hard and look fucking retarded. I hate Steve Crowder, but he dressed up like a woman and looks like most trans woman. I saw a tranny at Nordstrom while buying something for my wife and couldn't stop laughing. He looked like me, but a wig.

Letting them be laughed at by playing into their delusions isn't the answer.

>>738182927
>that creates jobs and wealth
That's what "to promote the general Welfare" in the Constitution refers to. The phrase was deliberately vague in order allow Congress the ability to define just how they wish to facilitate the creation of jobs and wealth.

>>738183511
>…says the guy who thinks Ben "One-Man Klan" Garrison is clever.

>>738186866
And I suppose you think you're better versed in psychology than the lobotomists of the time.
>>738186880
The thing is, the identity isn't the delusion. Rejecting it is the delusion. That's what gender dysphoria is there. Whether the identity is "true" is a non-issue; it's there. It's there, and real -- not a decision -- not a joke or a game -- and it can't be made to go away. "Treatment" would be the process of deciding what to do about the fact that it's there and won't go away, and "forget about it and pretend you're not this way on the inside" is objectively not the answer, because that's the illness to begin with.

>>738177012
>ITT: people triggered that others have a different way of life than their own

>>738177720
>He's too dumb for that.
See, this is where the liberals are wrong to criticize Trump. Argue that he isn't fit to be president all you want, he isn't stupid. You don't maintain wealth like he does in the construction and television business without having at least an average IQ.

There was also the "He's a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobe." people that use that single ad hominem for anyone to the right of Stalin. Those fuckers came out in force to support Hillary and denounce anyone that wouldn't support her because obviously you must be sexist not to. Fuck them. Also they tried to fuck with video games. I will never be on the same side as people that would openly support cunts like Zoe and Anita.

>>738187413
>Whether the identity is "true" is a non-issue
I disagree. It's a huge issue. It's wrong to pander to people's delusions.

God damn this board really is filled to the brim with shareblue s4s shills

Why do any of you faggots voice your opinions about politics that you'll never understand the full scope of? Everyone here is relatable to some fag who watches an ocean documentary and thinks they're a marine biologist. Please everyone who seriously posted in this thread, kill yourselves.

>>738187413
What do you mean identity? We are talking sex. Women have dressed as men and men as women. We call them butch or effeminate.

You're saying women can be reduced to lipstick and thong underwear and men to baseball caps and jerseys.

Fuck look at 80s hair bands, they dressed as women and no one cared. They wore makeup no one cared. Once transpeople decided they could be female or male and when people cared,

>>738187589
See rest of post.
It's not a delusion. A delusion is a mistaken belief that resists contrary evidence due to its psychological importance. Transgenderism is a persistent feeling, not a belief. Transgender men, for example, do not believe they have penises or were meant to be born male; they "feel" male.

>>738187810
Nobody cares about their feelings. Tell them to shut up and quit playing dress-up or just go ahead and commit suicide like they probably will anyway. One solution is as acceptable as the other.

>>738187723
Identity contrary to sex is the defining feature of transgenderism. And, as I said above, identity in this context is not a decision or a belief, it's a feeling that won't go away and can't be treated away because it's part of you.

>>738187810
Same thing people with anorexia. They feel fat, but know what the scale says.

>>738187931
No. The solution is that they do what they want with their lives as long as it doesn't hurt anyone and YOU shut up about it, and you call them whatever pronouns YOU feel like using for them and they'll just have to deal, because they have their rights and you have yours.

>>738188073
>you call them whatever pronouns YOU feel like using for them
I tried that and got called a bigot.

>>738187953
Do feelings matter or facts? Fact is they have male genitals, XY chomosomes, sperm, testosterone.

People have detransitioned too, after intensive therapy. 2% of trans people get help live as the sex they were born.

>>738188051
Yeah, but that can kill them.
Whereas with transgender people, if refusing to accept their identity doesn't kill them, the backlash when they finally do accept it does. Totally different type of risk of death.

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Time to take your redpill, Anon.

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>>738188240

>>738186866
True, but you're making an argumentum ad verecundiam. Lobotomy (and, while we're at it, electroconvulsive therapy) were experimental procedures that were not endorsed by all the experts, they were practised for a short time, and relegated to the dustbin of Freudian doctrine for their lack of positive results. Sexual reassignment has been practiced since the 1960s (you might recognize the names Christine Jorgensen and Walter Carlos) and its results have been generally positive. Psychological counseling should be an integral part of this process, but a lot of plastic surgeons won't insist on it if that cuts into their own fees.

>>738188073
But that's not what they want. They want to join the girl's soccer and wrestling team. They want to enter beauty pageants. They want to be speakers at women's business events.

>>738188206
37% of trans people kill themselves after transition. So transition also kills them.

>>738188165
That's the fault of whoever called you a bigot.
>>738188204
The feeling IS a fact. The psyche is a real and existing function of the brain, and that function is "in fact" being performed in a manner contrary to their sex.

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This one's for any lefties lurking. Enlighten yourselves.

>>738188344
Okay we get Trumptard. Republicans own the house, senate, presidency, Supreme Court and state governments, but you to continual attacking the left instead of the people in charge.

>>738187711
To judge from the responses so far, I would hazard a guess that there are at least two academically trained psychologists here.

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>globalism is good!

>>738188384
If by "transition" you mean sex change operation, that's totally understandable, because they were unstable enough to get a sex change operation.

>>738188453
Okay if feelings are facts, than an anorexic woman who feels fat should just continue starving herself, because feelings matter more than facts.

>>738188336
Vocal minority.

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>>738188505
Can you try articulating that again? The image is about two-faced media, not politics.

>>738188532
Globalism is good, it's why I can go to Target and amazon and buy whatever I want fucker.

>>738177405
>being this condescending

I'm not even sure if you're trying to be ironic. You talk down to people like this and you convince /no one/ you're right, you just seem like an arrogant terd and I'm going to never listen to your thoughts.

This is why Trump won.

>>738188532
>globalism
Not really sure what you think you're going to be able to do against that when we live in a world where we can exchange ideas over the internet instantaneously. Unless you're suggesting that we censor the internet to protect your vague idea of what America is.

>>738188603
No, because that will kill her.
She needs to honor and make peace with the fact that she feels fat, and understand where it comes from.
Just like transgender people need to do about the fact that they feel transgender.
In both cases, the action to take should be a function of that well considered and preferably guided analysis.

>>738188208
Fucking kikes. They are destabilizing my country. Why? Because their banks don't lend money to financially dependent white people like me. So what do they do? Flood my country with shitty migrants to undercut all our decent paying jobs and run down wages so that we are all reliant on their high interest credit. It's despicable and nobody seems to realize it's going on right under our noses. I fucking hate Jews.

>>738188679
There's multiple forms of media from Right to left. A quick google search will take you to Breitbart or Fox. If you're a more mainstream republican try the Wallstreet journal or the national review.

>>738188827
>shitty migrants
>decent paying jobs
illegal immigrants don't get these jobs, they do the blue collar busy work that was once done by blue collar nobodies. If you're worried about an illegal takin' yer jerb just get a better jerb.

>>738188827
How is it that someone who can't speak English or read is taking your job? In 5 years a machine will doing it. Get ready. Trump can't save you, only you can do that,

>>738188753
W..what? What does globalism,
>the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis,
have to do with the internet?

>>738188811
And trans people need to Accept they're male or female. Use the appropriate bathroom and stop trying to join sports of the opposite sex.

>>738189147
How exactly do you intend to get people to be more nationalistic when more and more people and concerned about the world as a whole and can travel to and communicate with anybody at any time? Nationalism only festers in an enclosed environment, which we do not have.

>>738189199
>And trans people need to Accept they're male or female.
There's really no need for this, the vast majority of them were brought up accepting this already and have never rejected it.
>Use the appropriate bathroom and stop trying to join sports of the opposite sex.
Vocal minority.

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>>738188453

>>738189326
>Vocal minority.
That doesn't mean we should let them run amok. Tell the trannies to get their crazy back into line and they can be treated like people again.

>>738177012
It's called controlled opposition. The media pretends to hate Trump despite him being funded by the same trillionaire jews who installed Trump.

That makes sheeple walk to one side of the pen, just so next year they can walk to the other side.

Keep playing them back and forth like ping pong and nobody questions the real jews in power.

>>738189350
Vocal minority.
Again, try reading conversations before barging in on them. I'm only defending transgender people who don't bother other people about pronouns or bathrooms.

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>>738189278
Well, honestly, meme magic seems to be doing the trick. People are gradually starting to see things for what they are. You don't have to be a nationalist to oppose globalism.

Well the suckers got suckered hard, and now we have a former rapist millionaire using our tax dollars to make himself more money.

Not too bright, guys. Not too bright.

>>738189326
I have transwomen telling me their biological women, because chromosomes don't matter. No there's an issue with a large portion. The mental gymnastic is astounding. It's not a minority.

>>738189486
>going to beat globalism with memes
Don't play dumb, there's far too many actual dumb people here for your to be pretending.

>>738188699
he's summer and best ignored

>>738189474
He's a /pol/tard. Most likely has Kekistan flag on his FB account and Pepe as his twitter pic. Went full retard along time ago. Has retarded memes. Let him post and don't attack those with special needs.

>>738189416
>That doesn't mean we should let them run amok.
No, it doesn't.
>Tell the trannies to get their crazy back into line and they can be treated like people again.
It is not the responsibility of the many reasonable transgender people who don't make a fuss to oversee the behavior of the few unreasonable ones who do. How about you stop associating them and lay off the reasonable ones, and focus your rage on the unreasonable ones. If your complaint is about unreasonable people, then complain about unreasonable people, not trannies.

>>738177405
A lot of blue collar, lifelong democratic voters voted for trump, especially in OH, MI, WI, PA. So yes, by choosing Crooked H as their candidate, they effectively threw the election to Trump.

>>738189769
>focus your rage on the unreasonable ones.
That's exactly what NCs bathroom bill did and trannies everywhere threw a shit fit.

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>>738189588
I mean, it's obviously going to take more than shitposting to make a change, but this is a start. If the fact that Trump is president isn't enough proof that people are catching on, I don't know what is.

>>738189769
Sounds familiar. Like when moderate Muslims defend themselves and say not all, but don't feel the need to denounce the Quran's violence that perpetuates attack after attack.

In all fairness. Blaire white tries.

>>738189567
Observation bias.
It's a minority.
Stop complaining about transgender people in general as a proxy for the ones who annoy you, you're scaring the ones who make so little fuss about it you don't even know they're trans and therefore aren't mentally factoring them in.

>>738189892
>That's exactly what NCs bathroom bill did
Right.
>and trannies everywhere threw a shit fit.
Wrong.
Vocal minority.
>>738189989
>Sounds familiar. Like when moderate Muslims defend themselves and say not all,
Sure.
>but don't feel the need to denounce the Quran's violence that perpetuates attack after attack.
This is where your comparison is incorrect.

>>738189855
Some did and some moderate republicans voted for Hillary. It was regressive liberals that went third party that fucked up. They thought hill dog would win. Also black didn't vote in the number they did for Obama.

Although Hispanic turned Colorado and Virginia to reliably blue leaning states. I think 2020 PA will go back blue and so will MI and WI. The margins were 77k in votes. Jill Stein and Gary got a lot of votes.

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>>738189989
>don't feel the need to denounce the Quran's violence that perpetuates attack after attack

>>738189995
I know when I see a transperosn, but I'm not a dick. You think someone can have testosterone in their bodies that long and have long term affects, like female body builders who use it?

I don't point and shit on trans people.

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>>738190375

>>738189892
I dunno man, I don't think bathrooms need to be legislated at all. I think social conventions should continue to be the thing that enforces norms with respect, at least practically speaking. And if those conventions change in big cities, but not in rural areas, then so be it. Basically I just think cultural conservatives should pick their battles, and the tranny bathroom battle is not a good one for them to spend their efforts on.

>>738190375
Don't know the source and what this shit is. Muslims are illiberal and violent. Enough for me as a liberal to denounce moderate Muslim behavior.