Meat-eaters, how does it feel to know there's an entire

excellent bait

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I love eating meat, some times I go out and kill my own pigs. Gut the pig then stick on a spit and post from dawn to dusk while slowly glazing it with apple sauce. Hands down the best meal I can make. Pics not mine

tl,dr
also copy pasta

>>737633270

> no prove
> only generalization

just let your b8 trh8 be d8

>>737633270
is this 'pasta vegan?

>>737633270
If I though eating meat and animal products was immoral, I'd agree that vegans are better than me. But I'd also be a retard.

What've liked to have seen "vegans" when we were hunter/gatherers. They would die from hunger.

>>737633944
You are spreading suffering whenever you pay off a butcher, of course you are doing something immoral.
>>737634009
Most great apes seem to be doing just fine on a pure vegan diet.
>inb4 chimpanzees are omnivores
They also eat human children, do you?

I love cows, they're gentle, friendly, and loyal animals. My family had a few cows when I was growing up, I we treated them well. In exchange for their milk, we provided then with a a safe place to live, a stream drink from and cool off in, and all the fresh green grass they could eat. I loved those cows, and I treated them well. After a few years they began to age and stopped giving milk, essentially they stopped paying rent. So after a time, we slit their throats, cut them open, removed their organs with a knife, cut their heads off, skinned them, and finally hung them upside down and drained the blood from their carcasses. After they had drained properly we took them to be butchered. That's when I discovered that I loved cows in all their forms, living, dead, burger, etc.

I've got two more now, Millie, and Jess... They're friendly, and gentle and I do very much love them.

>>737633270
that pic strangely turns me on

Animals are lesser beings. Their suffering doesn't matter at all. What are they going to do? Stage an uprising? No, they are dumb as fuck sacks of meat that exist for nothing but to eat, fuck and be eaten.

Do you think an orca pauses to wonder maybe they shouldn't launch the baby seal 50 feet in the air before eating the fuck out of it? No, because they are an apex predator and they earned the right to do whatever the fuck they want to lesser beings, just like we have.

plus, you realize cows would go completely extinct if we stopped farming and protecting them right? What is worse, a many year lifetime when you are allowed to live almost entirely secure and having children and getting humanely slaughtered after many years of this, or simply not existing?

>>737633270
tl;dr
No one is gonna read that.

Vegans aren't real it's just a meme that got out of hand.

>>737634446
so are you ok with the way cows are treated in the meat industry, where every single moment of their life is suffering?
i think a lot of vegans are ok with the idea of eating an animal that has had a happy healthy life, the protest is about the industry that treats animals like objects

>>737634846
that's what they are though. If they were more than just things to be used they would form a resistance and do something about it. They are nothing but prey and we have no obligation to make sure our prey has a good life before we eat it any more than a snake has to make sure the mouse it is eating lived a good, free life.

>>737634846
I certainly am. Cows are objects to used in anyway that we please. I'll love and take care of my animals until they day I murder them with a .357. Were they someone else's properly, they would be free to treat them as they please. They only have value by virtue of me deciding to give them value, they are mere objects on their own.

>>737634744
what a philosophical question. if you dont exist you cant be sad to not exist.
they arent living "securly and are getting humanely slaughtered" they get literally tortured to death, so not existing would be my pick.

>>737633270
bait

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>>737633607
Oh GOD I WANT NEAT THANK YOU OP YOU MAKE ME WANT THE BEEF SO BAD SHOVE THAT CHICKEN UP MY ASS AND CRAM BACON IN MY DICK HOLE I JUST LIVE MEAT SO MUCH BURGRERS PORK CHOPS BACON CHICKEN VEAL FISH THE FLESH OF MAN OH YES YEAH YEAH MAN FLESH MAN FLESH SO SEET AND JUICY WITH SOME BACON AND SO SAUCE LOTS OF SAUCE MEAT SAUCE SAUCE OF THE MEAT BLOOD YES BLOOD BLOOD SAUCE SAUCEY BLOOD SAUCE MEAT YES FEEL IT IN MY TEETH IN MY BALLS SO FULL IF MEAT SO FULL IF YOUNG SAUCE EAT THE SAUCE EAT THE MEAT BACON WHEN IT SIMMERS IN YO BELLY YOU CAN FEEL TGE POWER THE GLORY THE FERTILITY AND MIGHT THAT FLIES INTO YOUR FORM FROM THE FLESH OF MEAT THE MEAT OF MAN THE MONKEYS MONKEY MEAT ALLIGATOR MEAT MEAT YES OSTRICHE KANGAROO TURTLE EAGLE BACON WHALE SEAL SHARK TIGER RHINO ELEPHANT DEER MAN BACON OHHOHOHOHOHHOHOHO YES I FEEL MYSELF JIZZING MEAT BLOOD NOW SO SALTY SO RICH YES YES YES YES YES

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>>737633270
>advanced PETA vegans
>advanced
>vegans
my fucking sides, usually I don't even care to say anything to you skinny aspies but this one is good, OP
enjoy having your emotions dictate what you eat, whiney beta bitch

>>737635083
100% guaranteed to work

>>737635074
by this same logic we might as well exterminate all africans and indians and everyone else who lives in suffering and poverty. They would be better off not existing after all right?

1/10 bait

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>>737635103
triggered
try getting your essential amino acids, it will help with the neurochemical imbalance you are experiencing

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>>737634846
life from life. Vegans want to pretend that they are pure but they kill innocent plants... most of which are raised for nothing but there meat. They never get any love and spend most of there life away from the sun.

>>737635211
i think people who cant provide for a child should be on birthcontrol, yes.

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>>737633270

>>737635329
how about a 300 dollar check to be neutered at 13?

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>>737635305
and they subjugate the billions of intestinal bacteria in their gut to a life of pure servitude just to digest their nast plant fibers
#freeintestinalflora

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>>737633270

cry some more, veggie boy

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>>737633270
There aren't. No they aren't.

No they don't. They might have a slightly better concept of ethics, but ethics are always debated and changing because of that. No they don't. Tofu, like all soy, releases estrogens in the body, and even human estrogen has carcinogenic properties. I cook frequently and well. I'm not sure what loving the environment has to do with knowledge on meat.

PETA kills more animals than most other organizations, and testosterone doesn't have anything to do with the fact that humans are, in fact, omnivorous. That's your opinion. I am, actually, but I don't think KFC or McDonalds are either healthy or especially tasty.

I have never once thought that, and I'm not sure what

> as if that legitimizes your participation in cow genocide, or that becoming a vegan forces you to lose all taste for meat entirely.

is trying to say.

You're trying to hard to bait, buddy

>>737634347
We don't call animals that eat plants vegans. We call them herbivores, dumbshit. They have specially evolved digestive tracts for eating plants. Omnivores, like us, do not. Case in point, our cecum (the appendix) is used in other mammals to digest plant material. Ours is vestigial and useless. I know you are a troll, but fuck you anyway for having me waste my time replying to you.

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>>737635472
Not to mention all the germs who just want to make babies. Vegans kill them by the billion daily.

This is a good bait.

>>737634589
>their suffering doesn't matter because I don't understand their screams
Since it's the first time intelligent beings became apex predators on our planet we should strive to end this brutal cycle that has gone on for billions of years.
>>737634744
What if you were in their position? Even if you are okay with being eaten (doubt it), I can guarantee you that you wouldn't want your offspring farmed.

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>>737633270
>Meat-eaters, how does it feel to know there's an entire group of individuals who are better individuals than you are?

Stopped there, top kek.

Meat vegans?!

>>737633270
kek, 0/10 bait. who would beleive that theres anything superior to meat eaters. we eat our competition. speaking of which, where abouts do you live?

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>>737635663
Well shitstain,
#1 We aint in there place
#2 Survival to be able to take it back is worth watching my kids being turned into a handbag.
#3 Young meat is the best
#4 :P

>>737633270
PETA kills more animals than any other animal organization. Not sure why you'd use them to bait with. It's shit bait. Here's an ultra-liberal source for the information, since you would probably not believe any other source.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/05/pets-shelter-euthanization-rate_n_6612490.html

>>737633270
I'd probably eat a vegan too if I could get away with it. I love me some herbivore meat.

>>737633270
were did you copy this shit from mr faggot

>>737635563
Yeah but so what if our bodies are built for murder? We are advanced enough to stop it and not suffer in the process.
>>737635926
>worth watching my kids being turned into a handbag
>Young meat is the best
Then maybe you are cracked in the head. But most people aren't.
>>737636264
PETA kills animals that have been tortured by meat eaters to end their suffering. A real vegan cannot be so cruel to innocent life.

How can you tell if somebody is a vegan?

They will fucking tell you...

>>737633270
Can vegans wage war ? I mean weaponized, full scale war on humans with intent to kill.

"I'm killing you because you look like you enjoy killing"

>>737636716
there are way more vegans, but u cant tell.

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>>737636605
Most people eat meat, many don't weaken themselves to being vegan.

>>737637045
most people eat meat and animal derived products because they have been fooled by food pyramids and nutritionists

>>737637541
Or you know the fact that it grows braincell connections and is more filling then plant... oh and the taste... and our teeth. Or the fact that our ancestors (The great apes) Eat meat.

>>737637840
>braincell
herbivores have them too, we can manage
>taste
vegan food is absolutely delish, all meat tastes like burnt blood anyway
>ancestors
they also kill and rape each other all the time

op is a faggot

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>>737633270
I know this is low quality bait but I'll reply

>Meet vegans. They are better than you.
No.
>They can probably cook, too, since following a vegan diet vastly limits your options
Actually you are not as limited as you think you are and you dont need to be a good cook.
>because with tofu you avoid all sorts of health problems
where do you get your B12? Humans can't produce it.
>a confident individual would admit to himself that he has a lot to learn about PETA and the environment in general
For this point I kind of agree. The way animals are treated is simply cruel and needs to be changed, but it has nothing to do with eating meat in general.

I'm vegan but not as delusional to think that eating meat is wrong. Only our Food Industry is fucked up and needs to be changed.

>>737638116
But I said connections. As in more. Sure you can have a lame mind that forgets little words or you can have the Desil of brains like us meat-eaters.

>Taste
You have had bad meat. No meat should taste like blood at all. I am so sorry for your loss

>Ancestors.
And you don't think we still do all that. Ever heard of war?

>>737633270
your opinion

>>737637045
hows her hair not burned. unrealistic

>>737633270
If all the arable land on earth was used to grow crops there would not be enough food to feed every person in the world. Simply put, meat is another source of food to help support the huge population of earth.

>>737638373
It's not hair but woven in steel wool.. took forever to comb it :P

Epic bait OP.

But I'll chime in, Vegan's are low testosterone faggots, or women.

Never met a vegan that I actually respected in any way. (Prior to finding out they were vegan, but that literally happens in the first or second conversation.)

Even an overly gay person doesn't sit in a corner all day saying to everyone "Hey guys, I'm gay.", but that's exactly what a vegan does.

>>737633270

I tried to go veggie several times. Always miserable.

>>737636716
Of course you know who they are, they're the ones that are only vegans for the attention and will do anything to get it. Once at work, I told someone I was vegan (I am) when they offered me a piece of bacon (during break) and some girl looked up and said she was as well. We talked for a bit, and someone else passing by heard us talking and apparently they were vegan too. The cycle continued into the topic of conversation of the whole building, and now I know that like a third of them are vegans out of the fifty or so people there.

tl;dr most vegans aren't douchebags like OP

>>737633270
Not really, they're just arrogant assholes.

>>737638614
bc you're a weak ass lil bitch

>>737638614
You didn't do it right faggot

>>737637840
How can one be so dumb?
Fibre is what "fills you up", meat doesn't have it.
Taste is good because of seasoning made out of plants.
Our teeth are those of frugivores.
Thx for the kek.

>>737638320
>you dont need to be a good cook
You do when you are at constant war with delusional meat eaters that think your food must inherently taste bad because theirs relies of grease.
>where do you get your B12?
supplements
>>737638346
>As in more
Why do greedy meat eaters always want more? There is nothing wrong with a few shaved IQ points if it means we aren't causing suffering.
>No meat should taste like blood at all.
But that's exactly what it tastes like to a vegan's golden tongue.
>Ever heard of war?
How about peace? We humans are capable of that and there is no reason we can't extend our warmness to other animals.

>>737639051
>Fiber.
Fiber makes me shit. I guess it made you shit this thread out.
>Taste
No, you ruin the taste by adding to much seasoning. Ever had a nice lean deer steak?

>frugivores
Um... no. Not even close. Apes eat meat.

>>737638803
Some people's bodies need meat moron. Everyone has a different body that reacts differently to different foods.

>>737638414
Growing meat takes a lot more land than feeding humanity, also we have huge oceans filled with algae.

All those comments about B12 kek
Most meat eaters are deficient of it. Whom do you think are non vegan B12 supplements for? B12 is produced by bacteria in dirt etc but since we wash our food all that bacteria is killed before it enters our digestive system.

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>>737633270
Great actually
>tfw I want to eat human meat

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>>737639371
You can't even speel fibre right dumbass, sure it makes you shit but it also fills you up, look it up.

>>737633270
>para
You mean the so called "animal activists" who kill over 95% of the animals that come uneed their care?

>>737639402
Kek
Get an education, ever heard of biology?

>>737639509
Yes but not all land is arable land. To be honest I'd rather have a steak than algae.

>>737639699
Evidence of Humans as Omnivores

Archeological Record

As far back as it can be traced, clearly the archeological record indicates an omnivorous diet for humans that included meat. Our ancestry is among the hunter/gatherers from the beginning. Once domestication of food sources began, it included both animals and plants.

Cell Types

Relative number and distribution of cell types, as well as structural specializations, are more important than overall length of the intestine to determining a typical diet. Dogs are typical carnivores, but their intestinal characteristics have more in common with omnivores. Wolves eat quite a lot of plant material.

Fermenting Vats

Nearly all plant eaters have fermenting vats (enlarged chambers where foods sits and microbes attack it). Ruminants like cattle and deer have forward sacs derived from remodeled esophagus and stomach. Horses, rhinos, and colobine monkeys have posterior, hindgut sacs. Humans have no such specializations.

Jaws

Although evidence on the structure and function of human hands and jaws, behavior, and evolutionary history also either support an omnivorous diet or fail to support strict vegetarianism, the best evidence comes from our teeth.

The short canines in humans are a functional consequence of the enlarged cranium and associated reduction of the size of the jaws. In primates, canines function as both defense weapons and visual threat devices. Interestingly, the primates with the largest canines (gorillas and gelada baboons) both have basically vegetarian diets. In archeological sites, broken human molars are most often confused with broken premolars and molars of pigs, a classic omnivore. On the other hand, some herbivores have well-developed incisors that are often mistaken for those of human teeth when found in archeological excavations.

Salivary Glands

These indicate we could be omnivores. Saliva and urine data vary, depending on diet, not taxonomic group.

Chickens lay eggs regardless if people eat them, why be a vegan? Vegetarian I understand, whatever, feel sorry for the animals. Vegans refuse to eat things that don't even harm animals. I don't know where vegans are on the autism scale but they're on there.

>>737639099
>>you dont need to be a good cook
>You do when you are at constant war with delusional meat eaters that think your food must inherently taste bad because theirs relies of grease.
are you retarded? Why would I be at war with meat eaters? I dont care what they think about my food.

>>where do you get your B12?
>supplements
and how do you produce them? Byproduct of the Meat Industry.

>>737640075
so what? theres also evidence that whales used to live on land. did it mean they had to continue living like that forever? its called evolution.

>>737640075
"Once domestication of food sources began"
What does that have to do with the natural diet of humans?

"Fermenting Vats"
Humans surely aren't natural herbivores for we cannot digest grass etc but frugivores.

"the best evidence comes from our teeth."
Did you even look at the image?

Now explain why cholesterol kills us please.

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>>737633270
aren't you cute

>>737640111
>Chickens lay eggs regardless if people eat them
Thats true but the eggs you buy in your grocery store are from chicken who only live to lay eggs. It's still a cruel act and the difference between organic eggs and non organic eggs is basically non existent

>>737640171

Have a look at this>>737639567

>>737633270
> better individuals

except physically and mentally. i guess morally they could be considered better, but only slightly.

>>737640032
Yes but a lot more arable land would be available if we stopped fattening our cows. Also spirulina tastes better than burnt bodies.
>>737640111
>Vegans refuse to eat things that don't even harm animals.
Do you realize in what horrible living conditions egg laying chickens are kept? They get so agitated they even have to clip their beaks to stop them from pecking each other.
>inb4 milk
human milk is way more suitable for consumption and it's actually packed with the things we need and not what's good for a growing calf
>>737640171
>I dont care what they think about my food.
I am just tired of being made fun of because they think all we eat is tofu and kale.
>Byproduct of the Meat Industry.
not my supplements

>>737640111
Lol, these chickens are genetically manipulated to lay dozens of eggs a day. I don't even want to imagine how painful this must be.

>>737633270
Op, meat tastes good. We've been eating it for millions of years and so have many other organisms. If you want to be vegan, be vegan, but don't cram it down other people's throats. That's why people hate vegans.

>>737640895
Most meat eaterws are fat as fuck a could die of a stroke or hearth attack any minute, there are vegan bodybuilders who can easily compete with non vegan ones.
Empirical evidence proves that the average vegan is way more intelligent than the average meat eater.

>>737633270
He has a master's in baiting. A baiting master's. A master baiter

No, but seriously, good essay

>>737641019
Jews are subhumans. We've been killing them for thousands of years. If you want to be semitic, be semitic, but don't cram it down other people's throats. That's why people hate jews.

Same logic applied.

>>737640806
that statement is bullshit tho. B12 is produced in the digestive system or in the stomach of a ruminant and the bacteria which produce it are not on our food.

>>737633270
This picture was hard to masturbate to...at first.

>>737641339
Flawed argument. People kill other people for different reasons than people kill animals. We don't use Jews for sustenance, and killing them serves no practical purpose.

>>737641486
Well that bacteria is in soil and dirth. Look it up.

And yes, B12 is produced in the digestive tract -
Human shit is full of B12, other animals are known to eat there excrement, pretty sure under natural conditions humans would do that too as gross as it sounds (ofc some people do that nowadays regardless, mostly /b/tards).

>>737641718
>no practical purpose
lampshades, soap and obviously all their gold

>>737641718
A WW2 era nazi would probably disagree with you there.

>>737640896
>not my supplements
fun fact vegan supplements are worse for the environment.

>>737641864
>>737641883
I should probably have clarified; for sane people.
That said, I wouldn't mind the gold.

>>737641935
You realize that most supplements are meant for meat eaters right? Look at how big the whole market is and then look at the total number of vegans on this planet.

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OMEGA-3

in b4 hurr durr, Chia seeds

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>>737633270
I'm with you there, but many of my favorite Asian dishes still contain egg.

>>737642134
It is nice that you think WW2 era nazis are less sane than those who profit off of the suffering of animals but that is like you opinion, man.

German extermination camps were heavily inspired by slaughterhouses btw.

>advanced PETA vegans

Does this mean they've transcended to a new level of douchebaggery, miles above that of just normal vegan status?

>>737642200
Standard nuts and seeds contain enough omega 3 easily, don't even need chia seeds at all.

>>737633270
Hahaha, you dumb fag. You know nothing about food and nutrition. But that is because you know shit about biology. Homo

>>737642628
dude what's with all the queer slurs?

>>737642443
Slaughterhouses are as humane as it gets without losing efficiency. We have nearly eight billion people to feed. Also, I'm fairly certain food producers don't get into the business because of an animal cruelty fetish, but even if they do, it's not that cruel to just kill them. Being cruel is torturing them.
Also, yes, a human life is more valuable to us than the life of an animal, which is why extermination camps are considered immoral, uncivilized, and generally insane. We do what we do to ensure the survival of our own species, not another, and you can bet your ass it would be the same situation if some other form of life had become the dominant one.

>>737642973
"We have nearly eight billion people to feed"
Yes, but that argument totally destorys meat eaters. Feeding animals just to slaughter them wastes tons of resources that could otherwise be used to feed humans. Please apply some critical thinking skills.

You realize that a lot of holocaust survivors have gone vegan and are actively supporting the movement because they know how it is to be a "farm animal"?

For instance Dr Alex Hershaft. Look him up.

>>737642628
Homophobes are usually very smart and trustworty. It also makes you look very cool in front of 12 year olds.

>>737633270
Good for them. If veganism makes you happy, go for it.

I'll keep a seat warm for you in the afterlife, though.

>>737633270
All I can say is that I care for my health. I don't want to end up as protein defficient (because there is no suck thing as plant protein) or lose out on specific nutrients I won't name (cause I couldn't). Also, cholsterol is the shit.

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>cow genocide

>>737643457
Perhaps I shouldn't have worded it that way. We have a large industry to supply, because a lot of people enjoy meat. Slaughterhouses are the way we supply that industry.
And that's fine, they can do it if they want to. Like I said, human lives are more valuable to us than animal lives, which is why the idea of an extermination camp filled with humans bothers most of us, but the idea of a slaughterhouse doesn't nearly as much, if at all.

>>737644108
"The perpetrators... deny that they committed any crimes..."

Look up the 8 stages of genocide.

Vegans have brittle bones.

Op is a gaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3cB2Raswc

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>>737633270
WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT VEGANS RETARD. they tell you everytime you talk to them. insufferable cunts the lot. nice bait btw over 100 replies

>>737633270
so what sort of meat do vegans eat?

>>737644190
"Perhaps I shouldn't have worded it that way."

Perhaps you should think your lifestyle choices over?

"We have a large industry to supply, because a lot of people enjoy meat."

That doesn't justify it one tiny bit.

"human lives are more valuable to us than animal lives, which is why the idea of an extermination camp filled with humans bothers most of us"

Didn't bother nazi Germany, didn't bother soviet Russia, didn't bother the Ottoman government and many, many more.

"but the idea of a slaughterhouse doesn't nearly as much, if at all."

Strangely enough it seems to bother a lot of the survivors of the events above.

>>737633270

http://time.com/4344556/mount-everest-death-climbing-vegan/

>"Hey Lucy, what's that sickly-looking cancer patient doing?"
>"Oh, don't worry about it Joe, that's just a vegan. She arrived here 2 hours ago to acclimate, but since she doesn't eat meat, breathing is hard for her. I'll call the med-... well, better make that the morgue, our little vegan expired. Well anyway, who wants chilly con carne?"

Vegans. They matter as much as a jock itch.

>>737635126
looks comfy desu

>>737633270
Why would you bother applying morality and ethics (an entirely human concept) to a creature that can't even understand it?

Animals are worth nothing and while I disagree with being outright cruel to them, humans are more important than animals and I would not give a damn if literally every animal was eaten to preserve the life of humans

>>737644764
>personal attack

What justifies it is that, like I said, if another form of life dominated the planet, the situation would be exactly the same. The exception is a case in which said life was biologically vegetarian. If there is a demand for something, people will try to supply it.

No, it didn't bother any of them. But tell me, given that all of those events have passed, why do they now have a negative connotation?

And yes, it probably does bother the survivors. It doesn't bother the general public.

I'm fully understanding of your reasons and views. You need to understand that not everyone thinks that way, and nobody is obligated to do so.

>>737644962
>tfw her carcass is probably still up there

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I'm curious as to why vegans always consider themselves superior when an extreme portion of nature consists of animals doing nothing else all day than sleep, eat, reproduce and being prey to another animal. Most animals don't even consider not killing another animal if they're hungry and they can eat.

Surely, slaugherhouses and the meat industry are morally bad things, but killing to eat is absolutely nature's way, whether we have to or not. If vegans would be okay with normal hunting but not industrialized meat production, i'd somehow understand their stance, but telling non-vegans that they're murderers is kind of missing the point.

>>737645065
While they may not understand it, we can and a lot of us don't want unnecessary murder and suffering to be on our conscience.
>I would not give a damn if literally every animal was eaten to preserve the life of humans
Yes I completely agree, but that doesn't have to happen since we can feed ourselves just fine from plants alone.

Check out 'What the Health' On Netflix. I'll be attempting a vegan diet for 1 month to observe any differences in my health. Throw everything you know and dislike about vegans out the window. Look at this for personal health benefits and see if you're still not concerned.

>>737645985
Killing an animal is not murder. A human killing a human is murder.

The rules that apply to us do not apply to them.

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>>737642556
xD

>>737646226
>The rules that apply to us do not apply to them.
Is that because the people who made the rules are murderers themselves? I consider farm animals to be non-human persons.

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>>737633270
Stop being such a sensitive fucking nigger

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>>737633270

Vegan grass eaters make good meat

yum

>>737634844
like flat earthers?

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>>737633270
gotta admit it's hard not to reply to this

>>737633
Kill self op. Nobody cares about vegans.

>>737645289
I never attacked you personally. I was merely suggesting that you should think your lifestyle choices by which I meant no harm to you.

"No, it didn't bother any of them. But tell me, given that all of those events have passed, why do they now have a negative connotation?"

Maybe in 100 years people will ask the same thing about farm animals?

"nobody is obligated to do so."

Nobody is obligated to do anything. However actions do have consequences, and the consequence for killing and torturing animals is heading towards self destruction.

>>737633270
Morality exists, first and foremost, for the social order of humanity to work. It's a practical thing. Human morality exists solely for the good of humans. Why would it ever apply to other species? Same with law. Morality exists for a specific practical purpose. As with all things, it has its own sphere of applicability. Applying it to animals exceeds that sphere.

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Feels pretty good desu

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>>737633270

I do not feel

>>737646575
Then you're delusional.

Thats probably why the meat industry still thrives

>>737645932
That quite frankly comes close to social darwinism.
You can not compare an animal that is absolutely out of it's natural habitat (in that case that's humans) to animals living in their natural habitat ( any other animal in that case).
Furthermore we don't need meat to survive, it's the opposite actually, we have less food available because we need to feed all those animals and the cholesterol is literally killing us.

>>737647425
"Thats probably why the meat industry still thrives"

It thrives because about 99% of people are absolute idiots.

Should I care?I will eat ur mom then.See ya soon!

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>>737647554
Yeah, you are correct, we do not need meat to survive, but why is it morally bad to kill to eat if the whole of nature does it and quite a few animals who do not need to eat meat will kill for food if they're hungry and they find easy prey.

Also, especially humans being out of their natural habitat means we have a huge amount of different things to eat, among those meat. Why condemn eating meat instead of condemning the conditions under which that meat is "produced"?

>>737633270
Also, PETAfags tried to "prove" that carnivors are unnatural by trying to feed a lion a vegan diet. It was gunt and unhealthy. Human teeth, in our case, are designed to process both meat and plants. We possess incisors, canines, and molars. Humans and our evolutionary ancestors have always been omnivors. We'll eat anything that doesn't kill us and is either desireable or necessary to survive. Veganism is a choice made consciously by higher reasoning for some personal purpose. It is not Human instinct.

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>>737633270
Nice bait
Also, "meat vegans" really?

Farming plants literally kills more creatures.

Animal farms are brimming with bio diversity.

>>737647117
Alright.

We have no reason to think that will happen. It hasn't for millions of years. It happened almost immediately, however, when humans were the ones being harmed.
Please explain how torturing animals is leading us to destruction.

>>737633270
bad b8 but still gonna reply
>eating food because it is or isnt morally/ethically wrong
>not just eating whatever the fuck you want because it tastes good

>>737647784
Because killing sentient beings is wrong, you can't argue against this unless you are a psychopath (that's psychology not just my opinion).

You can't apply the rules of nature to society, which is in any case artificial.
That's what americans did to natives and africans ("They are uncivilized, we are more evolved, look at our skin, therefore we have the right to kill them, steal their land and enslave them.")
It is what nazis did to ethnic minorities ("Look at them jews, all this gold they don't deserve to call theirs. They believe in the old testament. Just exterminate them.")

Social darwinism. look it up.

>>737633270
Thanks faggot, I'm off for surf & turf.

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>>737648423
Then the whole of nature is wrong? Or is it because animals aren't self-aware enough that they don't count?

We are nature, by all means. Society too is a product of nature, since our evolution lead us here.

Whatever humans did to another has not too much to do with what we do to animals. Also conquering foreign lands out of greed and hunger for might is clearly not the same as killing animals to eat them, no matter if we especially need to or just want to because meat is tasty.

I'm out of this thread though. Not much sense in talking in here, people won't change their attitude and surely don't have the arguments to change mine.

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Is this that thread they were telling me about where everyone thinks they're tough because they eat store-bought meat?

>>737648423
The difference is not sentience. The difference is species.

no one cares go eat your tofu somewhere else

>>737648073
"It happened almost immediately, however, when humans were the ones being harmed."

It repeats itself over and over again.
“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
The difference is humans have the ability to fight back, animals don't.
Sometimes genocides aren't even acknowledged. Did the US government ever come out and acknowledge their treatment of native americans as a genocide (which it was by definition)?

By feeding animals just to slaughter them we are wasting resources that could be used to feed humans instead. It's already happening. Ever heard of the third world? I'm sure you did!
Farm animals are by far the biggest contributor the global warming because of CO2 emissions.
As long as animals are being slaughtered wars will be waged. How are we supposed to treat each other with respect when most people live off of murder and rape?
The list goes on and on.

>>737648824
nah this is that thread where everyone thinks they're cool because they get their vitamins from man made pills

>>737648818
Again, rules of nature don't apply to society. Social darwinism. look it up. Go read a book instead of wasting time on 4chan.

We are anything but nature. The clothes your wear, the car you drive the phone you use - it's all unnatural.

"people won't change their attitude and surely don't have the arguments to change mine."

I didn't see any argument on your side that made any sense whatsoever. You are just beaten and instead of acknowledging that you pussy out.
I really hope for you that you're reading a book now.

>>737649704
Which are mostly made for meat eaters. Whom do you think are non vegan B12 supplements for?

>>737646575
Yes and no. All rules are made up for some purpose. The rules that we have were made for our prosperity. That's their purpose. We can make up any rules we want, its just that some rules are better at making humans prosper and some are worse. All rules are pragmatic by nature. Morality isn't really an argument here. Economics and health are the main issues here, not morality. Economically vegetarians do have an argument, good meat isn't exactly cheap. But at this point in our history we live in such excess, that additional cost of getting your protein from Dead Animal TM doesn't really matter to most people. When it comes to health, well, vegans don't really have a great argument.

>>737648824
yep, they actually have the audacity to call themselves hunters as well

wow anon, you're so right it's a good thing I saw this on an image board on the internet, I care so much, I'm going to turn my life around

>>737633270
Weakest bait ever

Hahaha...

First world problems... The other 95% of the world doesn't give a shit whats for dinner, only that it will sustain them..

Suppose we didn't eat meat, we'd still have to slaughter animals to balance our ecosystem. By simply living and reproducing (forget everything else), our impact is already so great that we rely upon virtually all of the fertile land to sustain us. Are we just going to starve ourselves to let other species thrive? No.

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>>737640377
precisely! Humans evolved the ability to consume another food source in addition to what was probably a vegetarian diet prior: meat. Meat is probably responsible for the gradual growth of our brains both through an increase in dietary protein and fats. Fats are incredibly important for the development of nervous tissue both in the womb and as we grow. The myelin sheaths on our nerves are basically entirely lipid-based, and without them, you have the symptoms of MS. Our brains are HUGE for our body type's size, and require a fair amount of myelination to function (something that continues until brain development is complete) and caloric expenditure to function. Meat is extremely energy-dense, protein-dense, and fat-dense. It's the perfect food-stuff, but it's hard for us to digest, right? Well, those who could digest it better tended to have more energy and whatnot to fuck, fight, etc. That's how evolution works. Barring random chance, it's the individuals who are best adapted to the current environment that survive. Sometimes, that's being able to eat some monkey thigh with your papaya and not get diarrhea from it because it makes you stronger and smarter over time.

>>737633270
Meat eaters or..... as I like to call them udder puss guzzleing, salty meat down throaties can't handle the truth.

They simply are inferior and cling to any form of masculinity they can. It's sad really. They still drink breast milk! They fucking love the stuff!

Anyway, If you go vegan don't buy into the no hunting animals meme. Hunting is humane, factory farms are not.

>>737635074
>so not existing would be my pick.
Please pick not existing. It will save time.

>>737650113
You are so wrong it hurts. Some would say retarded.

Meat comsumption is the biggest reason the 3rd world is so fucked up.

"Suppose we didn't eat meat, we'd still have to slaughter animals to balance our ecosystem"

Nice opinion, please back it up with claims!

"Are we just going to starve ourselves to let other species thrive?"

That's what we do by farming animals. So much food goes to waste just to feed them while it could be used to feed humans (like the 3rd world).

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>>737633270
ahdonbilivit

Overpopulation is going to destroy the world, regardless of how "enlightened" our first-world vegan liberals may be. If you really want to do something noble and help the world, look up altruistic suicide.

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>>737633270

>>737635126
Don't forget that PETA slaughters quite a few animals a year.

>>737650694

kek

/thread

>>737633270

Troll but whatever.

Vegans I've met all had the same argument: "they clear cut forests so cows can graze. They destroy millions of acres of trees so you can have a burger".

Valid point. But...where the FUCK do you think your turnips grow, under the canopy of a pristine forest? Apparently you have no fucking clue how farms work.

>>737633270
Master bait

>>737650594

The types of grains that feed cattle and poultry are not the same grains that people eat. Food grade grains are totally different from "feed" grade grains. People would get sick eating "feed" grade grain, it has no other purpose than to feed livestock.

go buy a bag of food grade rye, then a bag of feed grade rye. They're not even similar looking.

>>737650140
We evolved that way not because of meat but because of learning the ability to cook (like root vegetables ect.) that allowed for a higher calorie intake.

"Meat is extremely energy-dense, protein-dense, and fat-dense."

And extremely cholsterol dense which - you know - kills us very easily.

" those who could digest it better tended to have more energy and whatnot to fuck, fight, etc."

Clearly not, seeing how 99% of meat eaters are fat fucks that can't get a boner or walk for 50 meters without losing their breath.

>>737650594

"back it up with claims"

Proceeds to make wild unfounded claims.

If we simply allowed herds to graze the fields, where would we farm to feed your perfect little world?. In the long run we simply cannot allow other species to take primacy over us-perhaps equality-but not primacy. (we slaughter eachother the same way when resources get scarce, I do not need to cite anything, read history)

>>737633607
Disgusting carnivores. Why don't you eat what the creator intended you to eat? Natural earth grown vegetables and fruits?

>>737650923
We could simply farm edible grains on that land. Problem solved. Wow that was hard. Read a book.

>>737636605
>A real vegan
Also known as "no true Scotsman fallacy"

>>737651065
Unfounded claims?
These claims are perfectly backed up by logic alone.

"If we simply allowed herds to graze the fields, where would we farm to feed your perfect little world?"

Are you retarded? We would of course farm on those fields, farm animals to graze on these fields wouldn't even exist.

Can I just point out that I almost only eat sweet and salt shit and I've had no health issues so far? I don't really care, as long as it's tasty

>>737637541
>because they have been fooled
Don't project your faults on people, kiddo. It's bad manners.

>>737650454

"udder puss guzzling salty meat down throaties"

That's really rolls right off the tongue. I think it's going to catch on.

>>737650836

Most those farms are in the great plains, not on forest land.

>>737635103

>claims to be great and smart for being a vegan

>cant use a comma

get out vegfag

>>737651130

But we wouldn't. Farmers are already subsidized NOT TO GROW in the usa in order to regulate grain prices. Over production would cause the price to crash, and would bankrupt farmers.

wow read a book, was that hard?

You're proposing that we grow grain for free, and ship it to third world nations for free? lol that would cost billions.

>>737651341

A holier than thou manchild attempts to make a point by belittling anyone with a different opinion. One who desires far more than he can achieve with his own intellect. A lonely soul lost amidst the turmoil of an ever-changing world.

>>737649293
Anon, the treatment of the native Americans by the u.s. government was anything but ethical. That's why it's frowned upon, perhaps less so than other more prevalent and obvious genocides, but it's not like everyone thinks it was right. Fighting back has nothing to do with it.
And yes, but the resources in the universe as a whole are limited anyway.
Animals have almost nothing to do with wars. There's no connection there, you're grasping at straws.

Even past all of this, an animal will not let me live if it wants to consume me or otherwise kill me for any reason. I see no reason to not do the same.

Like I said, be vegan, just don't cram it down other people's throats, and if they don't agree with you, swallow it. They don't need to.

Veganism is fuckin stupid. Sorry.

>>737651508
> Most those farms are in the great plains, not on forest land.
It was never particularly hard to repurpose a forest for farming. All you need is a little bit of fire in the right place.

>>737651660

Winrar

>>737639099
>supplements
Which come from... magic. Also not available for everyone, preppy rich kid.
>There is nothing wrong with a few shaved IQ points
If you want to be an idiot, please be. There are quicker, easier ways to it though.
>vegan's golden tongue.
Kek. http://www.mayoclinic.org/symptoms/yellow-tongue/basics/definition/sym-20050595

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>>737651660
Not from the US thank god.
And that is all because of capitalism. It doesn't refute my argument however.

>>737650994
>And extremely cholsterol dense which - you know - kills us very easily
>muh dietary cholesterol impacts serum cholesterol argument

You can't be fucking serious right? we've known for 20 fucking years that dietary cholesterol plays absolutely NO ROLE in your serum cholesterol levels.

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>>737651674
"One who desires far more than he can achieve with his own intellect. A lonely soul lost amidst the turmoil of an ever-changing world."

How poetic. Did you have a stroke while writing that? Eat less cholesterol dude.

>>737639567
Of course most meat eaters are deficient in B12. That is the reason most meat eaters never get supplements and have no deficit. Go tell tales somewhere else.

don't blame me, I'm vegetarian
but only for egoistic reasons, don't worry

>>737652056
Look it up is all I say.

>>737641146
>Most meat eaterws are fat as fuck
Kek. Vegans areasmall minority in the world. Hint: most of the world isn't fat,and too many don't even get to eat every day.
>Empirical evidence proves that the average vegan is way more intelligent than the average meat eater.
Your delusions are not empirical evidence.

>>737652050

Here we have vegicus beardacus, indigenous to first world countries. They thrive on privilege and status afforded by previous generations. You can find them madly clicking away on their personal computers, searching for ways to feel feel superior and by doing so mate with like-minded Vegicae.

>>737649788
You need to open a book. What's natural or not has been one of the greatest questions of all times in philosophy and if you think you can resolve it with a bold statement you're just ignorant

>>737642178
Not B12 though. People who require B12 have serious issues like lacking a stomach. Then there are vegans, who have serious issues like lacking a brain.

>>737633270
>being cognizant of the feelings emitted by animals that are below your level of intelligence
>having ethical dilemmas and issues regarding what other people eat and how they prepare it

can you even call yourself human at this point?

>>737652644
Because India and China to name a few are first world countries that thrive heavily on meat.

>>737642443
>German extermination camps were heavily inspired by slaughterhouses btw
You wish.

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>>737652869
it's true?
Watches at $ 0?

If god didn't want you to eat meat, why did he make it smell and taste like joy, rather than shit??

>>737653044
WHy no? Seems pretty similar to me.

>>737653120
win

Humans are omnivores.

Ignoring that is more ignorant than BLM,gender politics and thirdwave feminism combined.

Sure the meat industry isn't perfect, but we are the animals we are, deal with it you fucking faggot.

More animals are killed every year by grain harvesting than by the meat industry. Billions of voles are chopped up during wheat harvests across the country.

>>737644057
Actually, you can get your aminoacids by eating only plants. It requires a bit of mix and match but it is not difficult. Then again, getting iron, zinc and calcium into your body becomes harder because plants don't provide easily absorbable forms of them.

>>737653120

I guess god doesn't want us to eat pussy than huh?

>>737644704
>>737644704
Some answers may be there just to make the thread max out.

>>737633270
>because with tofu you avoid all sorts of health problems
Except malnutrition

>>737652745
Who is that philosopher who questioned whether or not phones, skyscraper, cars etc are natural or not? Really wanna give him a read.

>>737653437

Woah!... Read into probiotics dude! Get the bacteria and yeast balanced! ... Pussy not supposed to smell like shit (bacterial vaginosis) or rotten fish (yeast infection).

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>>737653293
Humans are natural frugivores, but it doesn't matter.
Get out with your appeal to nature fallacies.

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My delicious vegan dinner tonight

>Gardein "turkey" cutlets
>Daiya "cheddar"
>Just Mayo vegan mayo

>>737653392

Predators are always smarter than herbivores. Our intelligence is an evolutionary necessity for hunting and stalking prey, and cooperating socially for more successful hunts, and creating building tools originally used for hunting and fighting.

If you want to go back to being a fucking cow in a field to back to chewing on grass like an asshole.

Life on earth is about survival, and if we're going to survive on a galactic scale in the future we're going to need to keep that killer instinct that got us this far.

Sorry it's not all rainbows and cuddles, life is about competition and struggle. If that's not your thing then maybe life isn't for you.

>>737647607
Please don't project your faults on other people, kiddo.It's bad manners.

No "but bacon" argument yet?

>>737653293
Humans evolved to be omnivores, just as we evolved to kill rival neighboring tribes. We don't need to do either anymore to survive. Just because we used to doesn't mean we need to keep doing it when there is a better moral option.

>>737648423
>killing sentient beings is wrong
Plants seem to be sentient too, according to some recent studies. Enjoy your gravel diet.

>>737654003
We aren't predators in any way. We are not really fast are strong. We don't hear very good, our eyes are on the front rather than on the sides. We have no clwas or cannines. We don't even have a killer instinct. When was the last time you saw a cow cow grazing and thought "Shit, I wanna really it that as is now."

>>737653840

>frugivores

Sure if you go only by tooth shape and ignore that fact that we use fire and sharp tools to predigest our food externally. I mean sure if you ignore all those obvious things, then we're TOTALLY frugivores.

Oh also ignore that if anyone actually tries to live on fruit and nuts they'll not live too long.

Oh also ignore that other supposed "frugivores" like chimps (our closest relatives) actually hunt and eat meat like monkeys

Yeah just ignore scientific facts and keep you head burred in your vegan echo chamber.

>>737654321
7654321 grats

>>737654003
If we evolved to "stalk and hunt prey," they why can't humans chase down and kill an antelope or buffalo with bare hands?

Humans evolved to be able to tolerate occasional meat scraps scavenged from carcasses, yes, but not to hunt them and eat large amounts every day.

>>737649849
People with difficulties obtaining B12. Difficulties they didn't choose. Unlike vegans.

>>737654242
They react to some stimulation like light etc but they don't feel pain. The have no central nervous system. I'm happily going to continue cutting up plants.

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>>737654321
Good job

>>737654321
Witnessed

>>737634347
I'd eat chimp babies.

>>737654003

We are predators in every way.

Native Americans ate the fuck out of buffalo, becuase humans have the best long distance running. The buffalo will outrun for a mile or two, but people just keep catching up until it's too tired to sprint anymore.

you clearly don't know WHAT THE FUCK you're talking about so fuck off.

Humans have always been predictors in all societies as far back as we've existed. We wore fucking furs in the iceage idiot, what do you think we found those? Cave man hunted mammoth with spears. How is that not being a predator.

We hunt with Endurance and INTELLIGENCE, not speed, you ignorant cunt.

Obviously you're trolling but fuck you 8/10 for getting me to respond.

>>737654445

we can chase down an antelope. we have far superior running endurance of any other animal. We can consistently run 7-10 mph all day long. No other animal can do that. We just keep chasing and chasing.

We also use ambush techniques. Ever hear of a buffalo jump? Humans would chase buffalo off cliffs then feast on their dumb broken asses.

>>737654321
Tool assisted evolution is not proven.
Like 1% of chimp diet commes from meat.
I wouldn't know of any frugivores that have health issues (although there aren't a lot so whatever).

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what's natural or not. That's just appeal to nature fallacies.
I've had enough of all you /b/tards. I'm out.

>>737633632
>implying meat isn't part of the natural food chain
>implying you're not a hipster pussy who thinks eating tofu makes you morally superior

>>737634347
I eat chimp children. Turn about's fair play. Fuck off with your shitty b8, m8.

>>737650140
>Meat is probably responsible for the gradual growth of our brains both through an increase in dietary protein and fats.
Actually, no: our brains grew because the genetic defects that made our chewing muscles weaker were not important enough to wipe us out. Of course, being able to have bigger brains becauseour muscles didn't compress our craniums so much allowed us to develop easier ways to get food, so there was less need for strong chewing muscles and... well, you get the idea.
And yes, having meat available as part of the diet allows for better and faster development in children.

>>737650994
>And extremely cholsterol dense which - you know - kills us very easily.
No, it doesn't.

>>737655438
Please explain to me why hearth disease is the number one killer by far then. Where does it come from if not cholestrol clogging up your arteries?

>>737651341
>These claims are perfectly backed up by logic alone
Logic alone is useless.

>>737655630
Said noone ever.

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>>737633270
You call this a bait, new friend?

>>737652122
Also known as "I have no evidence so I will send you on a wild goose chase". Nope.

>>737653248
>WHy no? Seems pretty similar to me.
Inversion of proof fallacy.

>>737655928
http://treeoflifecenterus.com/blog-posts-by-gabriel-cousens-m-d-deficiencies-on-a-meat-based-diet-2/

There is this cool new thing called "Google". Try it.

>>737654003
You misunderstand me. I don't consider veganism biologically reasonable, but aminoacid intake is not one of its problems.

>>737654113
>Humans evolved to be omnivores
We didn't. Pre-Homo species were omnivores.

>>737654861
>Like 1% of chimp diet commes from meat.
Invented statistics

>>737656675
Then please provide me the right numbers.

>>737655560
>Please explain to me why hearth disease is the number one killer by far then. Where does it come from if not cholestrol clogging up your arteries?
Arterial cholesterol has little to do with diet. It has already been explained to you so back up and read again.

>>737655718
Funny thing is there is a field dedicated to logic alone. Mathematics, I think it is called. Its products have no inherent relationship with usefulness. You might have heard of it.

>>737633270
Use only organic tomatoes for that pasta.

cancer

>>737656765
Strange how arterial cholesterol begins to decrease once patients adopt a vegan diet although dietary cholesterol has nothing to do with it ... I wonder.

>>737656106
>http://treeoflifecenterus.com/blog-posts-by-gabriel-cousens-m-d-deficiencies-on-a-meat-based-diet-2/
Kek. I guess Masai and Eskimos must be dying by the hundreds now. By the way, do you consider a completely unsourced page in a alternative-lifestyle peddler's site a valid reference?
Bring medical studies, you pleb.

>>737656741
Inversion of proof fallacy.

>>737657174
Once more, unreferenced assertions. Also, lower cholesterol is not automatically better

>>737657437
It's not. Don't play dumb. I already provided my numbers.

>>737638572
Hurrr. Ah hate wimminz and ghey peepul. Hurr durr. Ah have thuh IQ ov uh froot fly.

>>737657282
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28660890

Here you go. Also I'm done. Not gonna waste my time any longer. Take care, don't die of a stroke!

>>737633270
>Understand their food better
So we should feel bad that vegans think more like a cabbage than we do a pig?

>>737657808
If I die of a bacon-induced stroke, then I die happy. Stop being an anti-bacon heretic.

>>737657557
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10704618
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904539
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/circulationaha/108/22/2757.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1534437
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603726/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2663974/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2125600/

My last action for this thread. Have fun. I'm out.

You, as a whole, are absoultely fucking retarded. None of you faggots should ever consider reproduction. Not that we have to worry about it, none of you fucktards will ever truly fuck someone who wants to procreate with you.

>>737633270
B888 xd

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Retards, all of you. How shitty must you life be to discuss stuff like that on 4chan?

Tbh hope this bitch gets eaten alive.

>>737635496
>Not a vegan and love me some rabbit stew
But srsly! That gun for a rabbit!? Do you use an elephant gun for deer!?

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>>737633270
1/10 made me reply

>>737633270
>Be me
>Severe IBSWD
>Ordered by doctor not to eat complex or long fiber foods
>No lettuce, spinach, kale, celery, etc
>Lactose intolerant
>No cheese, milk or dairy
>Be allergic to wheat
>Be allergic to eggs
>Ordered by doctor to eat primarily meat
>PETA says I should die of starvation
Nice compassion PETA!

>>737660331
>Down patrol.jpg

>>737660914
>Ordered by doctor not to eat complex or long fiber foods

You mean complex or long carbohydrates right?

>>737660914
>IBSWD
What is that?

>>737661254
No, fiber triggers my ibsd
Pretty much potatoes and squash are safe. NOT spaghetti squash. And no potato skins or I'm shitting blood.

>>737654300
>We are not really fast or strong
We have the best long distance running anywhere, except maybe for a horse. We can make tools easily that do the work for us. We are the strongest creatures on the planet with tools.

>Our eyes are in the front rather than the side
Like carnivores

We needed furs to survive, meat to nourish us (without animal protein we wouldn't have even evolved to have the intelligence that we do), and plants were very scarce as we couldn't grow them for the longest time.

Also I find it funny that a popular argument is that meat eaters are "unhealthy, fat and weak". Some of the healthiest men on the planet regularly eat meat. When's the last time you looked at the Olympics, where our best of the best gather to compete? You won't find many vegans there.

>>737661426
Irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea

>>737639051
>Taste is good because of seasoning made out of plants
incorrect, i know how to cook a steak no seasoning and have it taste great.

All of these other animals can kill and eat meat, but I can't because im human? Fuck you

>>737633270
Sorry...I was eating a pork chop and fucking your mom up the ass....what are we talking about?

>>737661715
>We are not really fast or strong
>We have the best long distance running anywhere

Doesn't have anything to do with strength or speed but endurance.

"We are the strongest creatures on the planet with tools."

Well yes, thanks - haven't seen Lions with atomic bombs yet.

>without animal protein we wouldn't have even evolved to have the intelligence that we do

What makes animal protein so special? The same amino acids can be found in plant foods.

>>737661824
How?

>>737633270
I kind of agree with you OP, but the truth is, vegetables make shitty clothing, and even worse bed spreads. So I'll eat cow and bison and use the skins for jackets and stuff, and while I don't eat minks or chinchillas I will will gladly pay for their skins for a be spread. Sooo soft!!

>>737662635
Hemp is much better than leather.

>>737662478
>What makes animal protein so special?
Quantity. Sheer volume of protein an amino acids.

And FYI our teeth and digestive system is made for both. The bacteria we use to digest plants is an exterior bacteria.

>>737633270
You are a faggot.
How does it feel to know that for every salad you eat, a bunny has been put through a blinder of farm equipment?

>>737662678
Leather doesn't make you itch or harbour bedbugs.

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>>737633270
Cry harder friend

>I ain't reading all that shit nigga

>>737633270
>Fish do not feel pain the way humans do, according to a team of neurobiologists, behavioral ecologists and fishery scientists. The researchers conclude that fish do not have the neuro-physiological capacity for a conscious awareness of pain much like plants.

Soooo... fish is okay?

>>737662891
Well if you didnt live like a disgusting pig you wouldnt itch or have bedbugs