Turned 18 a month ago and have considered cigarettes, what should

>>737612299
Don't do it you retard

>>737612376
Moralfags need not fucking apply.

guessing you want your 18th to mean something. as in ability to do something you couldnt before. sorry but your expectations will go unanswered until your 21rst.

>they're some 18 year old strip clubs in the states but they all suck

>>737612299
Marlboro Reds or 27's

>been smoking since i was 14
>regret it more than anything
>see this thread
>idiot

Youre fucking retarded you want to get addicted and die at 40 of lung cancer on purpose?End it now retard kys

Dont do it smoking is the hardest thing to quit

>>737612628
>>737612678
How and when I die means fuck all to me friend, live in the now douchebags :)

>>737612750
>will be living with cancer in the "now" when you have cancer

>not smoking pot

>>737612422
>implying you cant go into strip clubs at 18
Literally the only difference between going at 18-20 and going at 21 and on is they dont serve you alcohol and dont give you the wristband that allows you to buy it.
LITERALLY only difference ive ever noticed.

Do some drugs instead. I did like you plan to do and regret it everyday. You're better off finding any kind of drug and getting addicted to to than than cigarettes.

Just buy a porno mag and a lighter and call it a day
Cigarettes make you smell like shit and there are better, cheaper tobacco buzzes available

Save yourself years of addiction and wasted cash. Not to mention stained fingers, teeth and the permeating smell of a dive bar. Nobody thinks you're cool. I'll try to quit one of these days.

>>737612299

If youre here asking this question then youre definitely the kind of idiot that would smoke anyway. Go for it. Enjoy your cancer.

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>>737612866
I'm good friends with Lucy and pot already, I just wanted ciggy recommendations.

>>737612865
herp derp i got a shitty lapdance at a stripclub and assume its just as good as the 21+ where you get handjobs for 20 bucks

just kys instead it has really same effect as smoking

>>737613028
dude if you do that shit why do you care about nicotine?? its like wanting to drive a golf cart with seats lined with glass shards while owning a Ferrari and lamborgini

>>737613043
>implying i said or implied literally any of that
Simply said if ya wanna pay to see titties like a loser, you can. Just cant drink before 21, fucking dipshit

>have never puffed a cancerstick
>why not change that

Now repeat that to yourself and listen to how retarded it sounds. It's a nasty habit for idiots who waste their health and money. Do most people you know who smoke seem to be enjoying their lives? Probably not because it's a self-destructive habit. Don't be retarded and lie saying you don't care how you die because dying from lung cancer isn't like any struggle you've dealt with, and it's not like it's quick either.

It's fun when you're young but it'll get stupid when the socializing starts halting, but you're addicted at that point, and it can fuck with you. I've had friends literally beg/get mad that I won't give them money to buy a pack when they're out of cash (even though they know I don't smoke) and they still smoke despite us living in Chicago where it's 10+ a pack.

>>737613156
>seeing titties
>clearly never been to a decent strip club where you can feel anything you want

if you going to smoke at least smoke some fucking meth, pussy

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Partagas, the slim ones. I don't know if this is legal in your country, but this is what I smoke once in a while... because it produces cancer, you know..

>>737613309
>going to a place to pay for physical contact with women
>not just getting it anyway, while maybe paying for a cheap movie or some shit
Youre doing it wrong.

>>737613228
You're a fucking square and your post bored me.

>>737613309
>clearly doesn't realize that different states and countries have different laws for strip clubs
For example in my city the girls have to wear pasties.. it fucking sucks. Stop being a pretentious fuck

>>737613228
This. A month ago, I woke up and took a long look in the mirror. "Anon," I said to me, "you have a pretty good life. Decent apartment, girlfriend, dog isn't shitting on the carpet anymore. Things are looking up in life. Why don't you have a cigarette right now?"

So I did.

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Box of amber leaf blue riizla extra slim filter perfecto

>>737613435
>as if i dont already have a side bitch
>the rush is that they are only doing it for money

>>737613730
Then clearly for you its more a fetish bordering on cuckoldry. Enjoy.

>>737613473
>i said i can get handjobs at the place i go to
>handjobs arent legal in any states
get your underage ass out of here the world isnt the same as what is written in law

>>737613794
>cleary butthurt

>>737612299
Any old person who smokes usually starts at about this young and look at the toll it takes. You can tell yourself you're cool all you want but in reality it just comes off as I don't care about my own well-being and if you're still in that mindset you're obviously a juvenile. I'm only 24 and I'm already feeling the negative effects of getting older, and you're only getting weaker.

I mean you're literally paying money to smoke pieces of paper filled with poisons that kill you when you can spend it on uh literally anything else.

>>737613806
I'm not underage, im just saying some places crack down much more heavily on strip clubs and as a result the experience is vastly different- there are no good strip clubs in my city. Probably not in half the damn state

>>737613806
Also I don't have to pay strippers for handjobs so I don't

>>737613730
>the rush is that they are only doing it for money
What are you a fucking fag? This sounds like some low-self esteem white boy bullshit lmao. Your "side bitch" is probably garbage too.

>>737613833
>clearly trying too hard to be cool on an anonymous website like a tryhard faggot
I literally couldnt give a shit less, im simply pointing out that if you frequent strip clubs for any reason, 9.5/10 times youre a fucking pathetic loser. You literally cant justify it.

>>737612299
>cigarettes

Shitty habit.
Avoid it.

>>737613851
For sure because the oldest people in the world don’t still smoke everyday..

Dickhead, what you have is confirmation bias and the misguided opinion other people give a fuck what you say or think.

I know being for personal choice is an unpopular opinion for smokers but at least I’m actually aware of the risks and stats associated and not just buying into propagandist bulldust

Alright thanks nerds, I'll just buy a pack of reds and experiment. It's nice to know people care about some dude on the internet. I'm gonna stay young forever because I have willed it so.

>>737614048
Kek, ur a loser.

Sure run a legal and established business so girls who don’t want a trade can dance and pursue their passions instead. Your a loser

Work a decent and stable night job or even day job and you’re a loser

Go to a bucks night to celebrate your friends commitment to his life partner by doing a traditional temptation “ritual” and yeah you’re a loser.

Maybe all the shit clubs where you’re from are nasty.

We have some nice establishments here. Besides what shit clubs do you go to where women aren’t getting undressed and dancing?

>>737614115
Smoker here.

Good job, might as well experiment. No point being bored your entire life or you may as well just kys earlier anyways.

If you do need to quit, no excuses, that shit is mind over matter. I expect great things from you young smoker-kun

ITT: people younger than OP telling tall tales

After years of trying to quit, along with the smoker's hack and other issues, I'm 4 weeks without cigarettes. I got a free vape-fag unit from a friend, got used to that, and am weaning myself off the nicotine. Might want to consider a mouth fedora instead of cigarettes. You'll look like a fag, but it's a shit-ton cheaper and less dangerous. Plus you can lower the nicotine content of the fag-juice you use and basically make it addiction free.

Plus, look- you're on /b/ so you're already a faggot. Just add the vape aspect and g2g

>>737614555
Trips of truth.

Hey OP I can tell that you're a really nice guy :)
Go for the ciggies with the most nicotine and tar halt, and try to smoke them unfiltered, if you can't roll them yourself just rip the filter out :D or get a pipe but that's for faggots
Try smoking it in bongs, then dring the bongwater after a few days, and after a couple of weeks tar will collect on the downstem and surrounding bong area :) scrape it off on a spoon and heat it up like heroine, then inject the substance in your vains (or anywhere for that matter)

Also chew tobacco like i'd be like bubblegum, wile smoking, and make sure you smoke atleast 2 packs a day, otherwise youre a faggot and this thread is pointless

>>737614610
Bro man the fuck up. You’ll never wean yourself off.

You have to really want to stop.

>>737614384
Man, youre really grasping at nothing here, putting a LOT of words into my mouth.
Anyway, ignoring all the dumbass shit you spewed, if you noticed, i said if you 'frequent'. The occasional visit with a reason is one thing. If you go a lot youre a fucking loser. Period. Get the fuck over it.

>>737614664
Yep sounds like a rational position you have there

>>737612299
Your post should had been
>Turned 18 a month ago and have considered SUICIDE

>>737614682
Cigarettes have a physical and mental addiction vector that's hard to kick. Mind over matter works on the mental aspect, but your body's physical addiction can really benefit from a nicotine substitute. be it the gum, patches or vaping.

>>737614696
>9.5/10

That came out of your mouth friend.

You’re projecting a hell of a lot here son.

Must suck to have a crush on a stripper and get rejected by something you deem inferior to yourself.

Being autistic must be so hard. How did you not go and shoot the place up?

>>737614664
Forgot to mention that the water filters out some of those godly substances, but then you won't have that tasty drink

>>737614696
Frequent doesn’t disqualify workers or owners or anything else.
You meant patrons. We don’t use the word punter anymore either.

>>737614849
Yeah the physical effect is cold flush’s and sweats and a lil sick

The real thing withdrawal does is make you really want nicotine.

It’s not heroin, it won’t hurt you to quit cold turkey unless you’re incredibly frail.

I know people who have been substituting for years and still have an addiction problem.

If you’re a pleasant person to be around when you quit people will support you and not suggest you dose. That helps to keep in mind

>>737612299
Please don't do it

>>737614909
Sounds like you’ve mistaken a cooling system for a filtration system.

Wow tell me more about your opinion on this topic, you clearly know stuff

>>737614880
You are clearly a special kind of retarded, and im above arguing with the mentally deficient, its akin to using a weapon on an unarmed man.
>>737614991
You clearly understood what i meant and again, grasping at nothing here.
I almost forgot that one cant have a legitimate discussion or disagreement here. That one is my fault.
Anyway, im done humoring the children. Ganna go take a dump because fuck you.

>>737615202
Yeah, but like I said, I'm 4 weeks without a smoke, and I'm already lowering the nicotine content in the fag juice. Plus, you can simply have a fag-drag off the vape unit when you need a little hit... opposed to lighting up a smoke and smoking the whole damn thing.
>Obligated to tear into myself vaping, since I ripped into vape fags for years. I am not above the law.

(I want to find a girl who vapes so I can date vape with her. I am a vapist. A serial vapist)

>>737613043
>Hand job
>Only 20 bucks
>Good strip club
Obviously YOU havnt been to any good strip clubs because you can't even get a lap dance for 20 bucks at the good ones.

>>737615333
For sure but your opinion doesn’t make it a truism of any kind. It’s simply your opinion.

Consider for a second every stripper who didn’t chose it would have to whore or an hero without it.

Have you ever seen personal evidence of any of the stereotype in a nicely controlled and well regulated establishment? Obviously not, because you can’t tell the difference. A decent place offers dancers, anywhere that offers dancers implies strippers.

Get some fucking money and go out and learn how to have fun. Do you think the guys who pose with gorgeous girls and champagne are married to them? Nope dancers.

My point is your making a villain out of your imagination.
None of the points you made conflate in anyway to anything but seedy movie strip clubs.

>>737612299
If you wanna put a hot faggot in your mouth, go suck dick in a gay bar, only a little more dangerous long term and it won't cost you as much or even get you some money.

>>737615655
I dont pay for sex you dumbass thats been the whole point of the whole damn argument. Strippers are fucking losers. Patrons of strip clubs are losers if its more than once or twice a year tops.
Youre a fucking loser for trying to hard to defend frequently visiting a strip club like its a normal thing to do.
Get the fuck over it you colossal fucking dickmuncher

>>737615488
Yeah it’s cool, I wish you luck too.

But substitution is a bitch, some people trade for yoga or therapy but never fix why they felt the need to smoke/therapute/yoga.

Good luck with the girl too, sounds fun.

>>737612299
Lucky strikes unfiltered or Camels unfiltered. If you're gonna smoke, smoke like a fucking man.

>>737615825
You’re the one saying it equates to sex.

That’s not how it works. Anywhere except shit backward towns.

I agree, paying for sex is nasty. But I’m not going to judge a guy who does.

If you were a boxer you would find a good boxer to spar right or a good gym to train in?

Prositutes and escorts nowadays do it because they’re good at it. Your wife doesn’t do the things they do. If she did she was a whore..

Strippers are generally not whores..
Some are yes, but most are offended by the notion.

You literally can’t tell a good stop club nowadays, because until you pay for entry to the back/vip/dance room it is literally another regular club.
Why would you turn away customers?

FYI you know in most places there’s a higher ratio of women to men than in a sports bar? Because it’s safe, and no faggots trying to pick them up or harass them.

Smoke faggot, its good for you (in extremely small doses, and only natural tobacco)

>>737615852
Daddy?

>>737616314
Maybe i just dont get whatever point you are trying to make here. I dont personally give a fraction of a shit what kind of clubs are like what or how they work or any of it
Strip clubs are a waste of money and for dumb or lazy women who would rather show off and use their bodies to survive rather than actually be a fucking contribution to society.
Meanwhile the people who go to them often either cant get interaction with women otherwise or cant get good looking women without the money.
Its not a hard concept here buddy. Strip clubs are an occasional thing and anything else is sheer fucking degeneracy or a complete lack of social skills.

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>>737615852
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>>737612299

smoking

negatives:
-high cost
-heart disease
-various types of cancer
-constant craving
-premature aging/wrinkles on the face
-smelly clothes, hands, face
probably some others I can't think of

positives:
?

Seriously. Why the fuck anybody would actually smoke is beyond me.

>>737617215
Smoking tastes great after a meal, with your morning coffee, and takes the edge off stress. But yeah, it's nasty shit. Don't forget it makes everything around you stink, too. And, you'll willingly stand in the rain or in a blizzard to smoke up.

>>737616959
I think you’re undervaluing a group of both women and men who maintain a considireble net worth and connection to some of the greatest entertainment companies and productions on the planet. I know “strippers” earning 90k a year with health/dental/retirement plans.
Yeah my perspective is also subjective, but it’s not dissimilar to music photography or art and often intertwines.

I get celebrity idolism is a joke, but every video and tour dancer is a stripper. It’s not a bad way to make an honest living. It’s just a different headspace about some boundaries.

It’s just a show. People project what they want onto it.

I just don’t understand what the villification and hate of something so mundane and harmless

>>737617632
A coherent response. Thats a surprise.
I can halfway see your point now. And to be perfectly honest my viewpoint is likely largely created by my upbringing. So ill give you that, while its not for everybody it CAN be a legitimate way to live. However, the vast majority of them ruin it for the few who maintain a sense of professionality behind it all. Stereotypes exist for a reason. So while yes, some strip clubs can be a nice place to visit or work in, hell, some of them even classy, the vast majority have a much different reality and atmosphere to them. Which brings about the association of most people who often visit them being losers.
But considering you finally actually made your point and in a way that wasnt just random thoughts thrown together, i WILL concede the fact that some strip clubs can be fun places with a good reputation. But please keep in mind that MANY other ones will ruin that for all of them, all in the name of making a quick easy buck.

>>737612299
Go ahead smoke some. In my experience they're really not very addictive. I used to smoke a bunch when I was 18, now just a few a year.

>>737617632
You're right Lady Gaga is a stripper.

>>737618205
Maybe it’s in the phasing I thought my last responce was the most rambling.

The disagreement is about the modern ratio or proportion of nasty establishments. I’ll concede that, because even if 90/100 establishments were classy as fuck, 10percent is enough minority to ruin it for the majority.

I fully get it though. If you’re actually getting your rocks off at a strip club youre a nasty dude. But everyone there thinks the same, other patrons too but especially staff.

I think the majority of patrons just want an alternative environment where people are forced to be more liberal in mindset.

No amount of nasty ass herpes laden aids poles ridden by meth-dieting “models” is a good amount and until those places are destroyed by regulation then I guess the industry somewhat deserves the stigma.

But it’s really just about being open minded to something, it’s not going to hurt you. (Strippers are weak, that’s why guys beat them all the time kek) and stripclubs can’t punch.

Why not take an awkward mate there to meet and converse with a girl who literally can’t turn him down for questions or curiosities unless he does something creepy.

It helps some people combat certain anxieties they have about women sometimes. Albeit mostly in the wrong and unhealthy, unresolved psyche, kind of way, but we call those people regulars.

If the Johnny is a creeper we slap him.
If the Jane is a slapper we sack em.

But I run a fine hypothetical establishment I’ll have you know and I’ll thank you to not trash talk my honorable and ancient profession.

Kek

Strippers be dank as fuck though yo.

I’m just trying to play devils advocate.

I’m thinking about starting something romantic with a girl that teaches “pole gym”

The idea is nasty to me, but she’s cool as fuck. I just can’t get past the fact she gets paid to teach that bullshit. So she’s a de-facto stripper.

Thoughts?

I puffed my first one when I was 9 I quit at 13, regret nothing but my teeth will always be yellow.

>>737619508
Now that viewpoint is one i can agree with. Especially the part about using a stripper to "break in" an awkward buddy to help him come out of his shell.
In addition, if they cleaned the industry up it could and would be a respectable job in some aspects.
I think we may have simply had a breakdown in communication. I can agree with pretty much all of what youve said there.
That being said i hear stripper and i mostly think of that ATHF episode whete Carl teaches Shake to be cool.
That and the stripper who works at the factory i work at and shes pretty much a bro with tits, like 10/10 would have a beer with.
So its a massive tossup really.

>>737612417
How was smoking about morals? Only white trash and European smoke. Every time I see someone with a
cigarette I instantly consider them a fucking loser.