MGTOW = Men Going Their Own Way It isn't a movement. I

>>737477455
Isnt that for perma-virgins?

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>>737477747
No. MGTOW choose their own lane. Incels have their lane chosen for them.

It's impossible for an incel to be MGTOW

I feel this, but labels are dumb, so just stop.

Love to become a virgin-wizard, but I got shit to do.

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>>737477747
Yes, that's about it.
Or more scientifically: "biological failures".

>>737477923
Its pronounced Mig- Toe?

Good Goy don't have White children

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>>737477961
>>737477995
>>737478034

The problem isn't MGTOW. The problem is that the opponents of MGTOW (stormfront, jezebel) have shilled so fucking hard against MGTOW that you have internalized their strawman misrepresentation of it. You believe that MGTOW = abstaining from sex. That isn't what it means. Here, I'm going to repeat that last part in all caps for emphasis.

MGTOW =/= ABSTAINING FROM SEX

Pic related is an accurate depiction of a typical MGTOW
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSl7xmsJCqQ

Do you believe that bachelors abstain from sex? Of course not. The only difference between MGTOW and bachelorhood is that society expects a bachelor to eventually "settle down" and start a family after he has finished sowing his oats. MGTOW are just bachelors who have the audacity to say, "my bachelorhood isn't a phase".

MGTOW isn't anything more than this.
>you may now proceed to strawman what we are because you're intellectually incapable of formulating a logical argument against our actual position.

MLTGPDO = Men Letting Their Gene Pool Die

Sure, if you don't want to get married then don't get married, but at the very least, you should pay for a surrogate mother to bare your sons who you'll raise on your own as alphas.

>>737477455
You're a dumbass. Marriage has tangible societal benefits. Places where MGTOW is exercised to the utmost include marvelous little gems like Somalia, Afghanistan, Qatar, etc.

You want civilization? You're going to need restraint on natural urges to force people to succeed and then permit them to breed. That's what marriage does.

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>>737478148

In the year 2060, the white race will constitute 10% of the world population. This is due to the fact that most white people live in more advanced cultures and have access to birth control and western women have educations/careers and due to the fact that in Africa and Asia, women do not have universal access to birth control and are generally uneducated/don't have career options. From now until 2060, Africa and Asia will produce a shitload of children, and their child production will take the world population from 7 billion to 11.5 billion. There is no amount of fucking white people can currently do that will undo the demographic growth of those two peoples. Our fate as a minority on this planet is sealed. Aside from mass genocide or a plague, nothing will undo it.

But here's the thing. Despite white people being a minority, in 2060 there will be more than 1 BILLION of us. 10% of the population and still there will be a BILLION of us. The white race isn't going anywhere. The notion that we are under threat of extinction is propaganda stormfags use to grow their ranks here. Stop drinking their kool-aid and grow a pair.

>>737478205
adopt a kid and give him your genes

>>737478205
If you want to contribute to the gene pool, then donate semen to a sperm bank.

It's got nothing to do with marriage.

>>737478422
>just another night in at the Michael Van Gerwen Appreciation Society

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>>737478313
>Marriage has tangible societal benefits.

For women. For men it is overwhelmingly a source of destruction and misery

>>737478196
Well people who don't want to wage a war against women because they're all a big hivemind through their telepathic pussies won't follow any cultish looking stuff like that. If you don't like marriage - ok, nobody cares, maybe your parents who are sad, but stop pretending it's something to be proud of.
If you're so afraid of getting hurt that you curl up in your safe space where no woman will ever hurt you again you're the biggest fucking pussy imaginable.
/rant

>>737478422
Still not an excuse to refuse passing on your genes

Such a stupid movement.

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>>737478725
MGTOW is not a movement. It's a lifestyle.
In order to be MGTOW, all you have to do is not enter into a relationship with a woman.
That's it. That's all it is.
Its easy to mistake MGTOW for a movement, because men who begin living this lifestyle find it improves their quality of life so much that they feel compelled to share their way of life with other men. There is no more organization behind this compulsion to share the benefits of our lifestyle than there is in recommending to someone that they go see a good movie.
It's a grassroots, spontaneous male awakening to the parasitical nature of women regardless of political affiliations.

>>737478702
You can be MGTOW and still pass on your genes >>737478506

>>737478759
Arent you women haters?

>>737478666
>nobody cares
lol, if this were true, there wouldn't be SOOOOOOOO many people trying to shame us into silence.

>shut him up
>if he keeps talking this could spread

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>>737478881
MGTOW do not hate women. We do not fear woman.

Do you know of any biologists who hate spiders? Having respect for a poisonous spider doesn't equate being afraid of it. Knowing exactly what a woman is doesn't equate hatred

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>>737478914
Imagine a fat disgusting tranny w̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ faggoting in front of your door step each day, don't you want to tell him to be a faggot somewhere else?
I'm sure it would be mature to accept that he just can't help how he is, and that it's his own choice, but DAMN he's gay,

>>737478802
I prefer impregnating a beautiful woman. Ugly women use sperm banks. Plus I wont know my child. Being a good father is important to me.

>>737479238
This isn't your front door. If you don't want to see this thread, hide it.

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>>737478625
Maximum Triggering

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>>737479330
But it's fun to argue.
Ok, i won't bother you anymore, gotta sleep.

>>737479330
I don't want you corrupting the minds of my fellow white men.

I want you to shut the fuck up and go away.

>>737479009
Jesus you're trying really hard again. You're not a woman expert, like the parallel you're trying to draw here. You have no qualifications. You're here recruiting for a "lifestyle", but claim it isn't a movement. Your copypasta responses are all exactly the same as before, showing your true colors as a shill and a drone absent of independent thought. You were unable to adequately respond to criticism before and you'll be unable to now.

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>>737479009
Dont cut yourself with that edge bro

>>737477455
this thread sounds like a cry for help
do you think your parents are going to disown you if you tell them you're the gay or do you just don't want people to know you have the gay

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>>737479492
Being against national socialism doesn't necessarily make someone anti-white.
National socialism is a despicable form of governance that stifles liberty and freedom of expression.

Dissent has value. A position being able to withstand dissent is how you determine whether or not a position is correct, but with National socialism, you'll get shot for expressing it. You stormfags do not have a monopoly on white pride and you do not get to dictate terms.

Also, recommending to anons that they avoid marriage is the equivalent of recommending to a stranger that they go see a movie. It isn't a big deal and it requires very little effort. This is the perfect forum to issue this recommendation. Someone has to counterbalance the stormfag "extinction" bullshit that goes on here and since this isn't a white nationalist forum, I'm allowed to.

The Nazis on this board are leading my fellow white men into financial ruin solely because they're cowards who believe being surrounded by cheap labor is threatening for some inexplicable reason and someone has to call them out on their bullshit.

>>737478196
stale copy pasta is stale

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>>737477455

>>737479577
>implying I have to create an original argument for each of the 30 women who call me a virgin

>>737479577
>>737479728

samefag

>>737478196
>unironically using the word "internalized" while speaking about views of a movement
The Horseshoe Theory is real.

>>737478422
Confusing ethnicity with race, look at sweden.

>>737477455
Just date church chicks, retards. We cannot allow the white race to succumb to foreign rapists!

Fuck this gay ass movement. I'd rather take the chance of marrying a whore than not marrying at all and being a sad sack of shit all my life.
>inb4 but we still get pussy and save our money!!

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>>737480214
Imagine yourself on a cruise and the ship you are on is sinking. As lifeboats are put into the water, it is discovered that half of them are not seaworthy due to lax maintenance. One out of two sink as they are put into the water and its occupants swim back to the sinking cruise ship, desperately climbing back on board as everyone still on the cruise ship is panicking. You find yourself sitting on one of the lifeboats that actually works. However, a man wearing the uniform of a crew member points at you and yells at you. He is demanding that you get up out of your seat.

He says, "There aren't enough seats for everyone. Women and children first!"

You look over his shoulder and see a woman waiting for you to get up. You tell him to go fuck himself, and refuse to give up your seat. You assert that your life is just as valuable as hers and since you got to the seat first, the seat is rightfully yours. The man waves some of his fellow crew mates over to you and they forcefully remove you from the lifeboat. As soon as your seat becomes available, the women sits in it without hesitation.

The notion that she has priority to that seat has been ingrained into her since childhood. She feels entitled to that seat and whether or not your life is more valuable never even crosses her mind. The fact that you are a professor at an Ivy League university and one of the most renowned physicists currently living and she is just a house wife is irrelevant. She is a woman.

Where feminism is primarily focused on female supremacy, traditionalism is focused on female superiority. Traditionalism is the other feminism. It's the gynocentric, white knight voice on the conservative side of politics and it’s the reason the ship's crew pulled you from the lifeboat. Traditionalism is the assertion that your life is less valuable than a woman and that it is your duty to consider yourself disposable. It is the pedestalization of women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_b8Gs6WoW0

>>737480238
It isn't a movement. It is a lifestyle. >>737478759

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>>737480238
>he thinks marrying a whore will prevent him from becoming a sad sack of shit

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>>737480404
There's another group of people who like that phrase

>>737480353
I don't think they do this anymore. "Women and children first" I mean. I'd like kids to go first yes, but I feel men and women are viewed fairly the same now adays.

>>737478422
This is so fucking stupid. It isn't about whether or not we go extinct, it's about us becoming so much of a minority that we as a people no longer have a say in any country on the planet.

Are you fucking retarded? How can you not be afraid of becoming a minority?

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I love this thread! And i love MGTOW! Great people!

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>>737480740
White people are a minority now and they will be a minority in the future. But unlike you, I'm not a coward about it. I'm from the southern United States and my forefathers were surrounded by niggers and lived that way fearlessly for a reason. Niggers are dumb. As white people see themselves become less and less of the world population, they will unite and as the smartest group on the planet, we will dominate as we always have.

Where you see more brown people, I see more cheap labor. Why the fuck would you be afraid of that, unless of course, you're a manual laborer, lol

>>737479928
false
the other guy is actually incredulous that a "mgtow" incel would have nothing better to do than try to convince other people their life style isn't as miserable as it seems. Where as I am aware they are totally miserable and have nothing better to do than copy paste the same tired old arguments/pictures/videos practically verbatim until they're forced to admit they just hate women because they can't get/keep them. Personally I think it's rather pathetic and a lot of them should just admit they can't get/keep women because they have the gay.

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>>737480905
U seem upset

What is it about a man declaring that his bachelorhood isn't a phase that would cause you to become so irate? Wouldn't the growth of MGTOW make it easier for you to find a better wife? Doesn't each MGTOW change the ratio between women looking for a husband and men looking to marry to your favor?

to all the dumb fucks who think MGTOW is about "perma virgins, beta/alpha, and hating women" aren't getting it.

It is a rather well established fact that most MGTOW are men who have either been

>victimized in their relationships and finally understood what the problem was

>recognized the bullshit their parents relationship was

>understand that you dont need a long, or even short relationship for sex
>realize that the concept of marriage was an old world, religious means of advancing one's socioeconomic standing

>acknowledge that being subjugated to another (typically a woman) in a relationship doesn't make it a relationship

>>737480885
So you do really care about about cultures and specific ethnicities that will be annihilated, by dumb invasive sandniggers. You do not have to be smart to be extremely dangerous.

You do not really care that some countries belong to ethnic people and we should be fighting tooth and nail for it too stay that way.

And what will you do about the jews? Who want us dead? Do you really think they will give up?

Who do you think created the situation in which marriage is no longer an easy choice?

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>>737481402
We do not want you dead! We would never! We are your greatest ally!

>>737481245
She's a femanon and the change in ratio would make it more difficult to find a husband.

>>737481402
You stormfags are literally afraid of your own shadow

>>737481955
Not really, we are just more observant and less gullible than most.

>>737482105
>the sky is falling
>correlation implies causation all over the place

>>737482222
quads have spoken. I was on the fence about this whole mgtow thing, but this thread is a pretty convincing argument

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>>737482222
rebuttal quads

Sounds like a sad life to me. You need a partner

>>737482222
>29 out of 31 free association all over the europe pushing and funding are foreign jewish organizations.
>Just a another coincidence

>>737482300
Don't you like having sex, anon? Why would you intentionally decide to stop having sex?

>>737482373
No, you don't. No company is better than bad company.

>>737482373
I have a partner. A lawyer who used to be a regular at my bar went in on my first business with me as a silent partner.

>>737482507
And good company is better than no company

>>737481245
I'm not upset. Shit rolls down hill. I get bullied and then bully other people. It's not because you're gay, but I'm going to bring that up anyway.

>>737481358
>to all the dumb fucks who think MGTOW is about "perma virgins, beta/alpha, and hating women" aren't getting it.
That's cut but you could just sum up the whole MGTOW thing as
>aren't getting it
in reference to pussy

>>737483200
And good company is less likely than bad company. Face it, people don't want to put up with the bullshit women and society throw at men today. Good for you if you have it great, but others don't.

47 oldfartfag here. I've been doing this without realizing it for a few years.

Marriage, kids, commitment, tons of responsibility, etc. What do that all for some pussy that gets old and ugly and gets turned off? Getting married for a man is so stupid.

Asian whores are where its at.

>>737483442
What makes you think that mgtow don't get pussy?

>>737483442
MGTOW doesn't just mean celibate, just means you aren't getting in relationships.

I mean some go celibate, but I mean you could easily get more pussy than most married men by not marrying.

>>737478666
>getting hurt
>huge pussy
>getting all your shit taken and starting from scratch at 38 because your wife got bored

Fuck off nigger.

>>737483449
Men and society throw shit at women too. Now men are playing victim. Fucking lol

>>737483598
Because all women would universally reject you.

>>737480632
>a man doing whatever he wants and listening to no one
>two faggots fucking

I don't even understand your thought process, I bet you play Teemo.

>>737483957
Please. Women in the western world have it leagues better than the AVERAGE man. Keyword.

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>>737483992
What about strippers who fuck for cash on their night off? Are you asserting that they would be above taking my money because they somehow magically know that I've decided to never get married?

>>737484165
You can only get laid by paying for it. THAT'S how worthless you are.

>>737483598
I don't think they get pussy because they are pussies.
>>737483664
You see your entire argument hinges on theoretical "could" and such. You see it's just funny how obsessed some of you incels are with this theory when in practice it doesn't work that way. It's kind of ironic since the huge part of your theory is that other practices don't work, but you have a very big cognitive dissonance about it.

>>737484204
>dinner
>gifts
>birthdays
>constant contact
>copious amounts of time

Yeah, because being in a relationship is free.

>>737484154
Nope. Just different kinds of issues.

>>737484165
You could do that anyway if you were married so that's just a moot point except you basically have to stoop to paying a woman to have sex with you either way.

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>>737483442
>not understanding the post was in reference to relationships
>not understanding the bachelors lifestyle

Thousands of generations of my ancestors managed to procreate and
raise offspring, thus prolonging the genetic line that produced me. And I'm prepared to throw that all away just to spite some mouthy cunts. Real talk this "movement" should just be called "beta empowerment".

Oh no we're all oppressed!

Letz form a movement to compensate for not having enough balls to deal with rejection, instead of being her little bitch boy on a leash praying she'll suddenly wanna fuck you after showing up with your weeaboo beta pillows and lookAtmeeeee fidget spinner attention seeking toy.

Shit is a bad as the feminist and sjw's

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>>737484165
And somehow MGTOWs are the desperate ones.

Tho, being MGTOW is something rather vague. We draw the hard line at marriage, because at the point of marriage, a dude is definitely and unequivocally bluepill.

Else, MGTOW is more of a mindset than anything else.

Sex is overrated, and you don't really care about your offspring when you're in the ground, so better spend your time on earth doing something you enjoy as an individual and gives your life meaning.

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>>737484204
>>737484508
>a man is only valuable if women vouch for him
>they bestow the title of human being only to the worthy

You have a slave mentality. You believe that your worth as a human being is based upon the opinion of women.

>>737484165
Who the fuck can afford to pay strippers for sex?

>>737483586
Stop being a fat lazy piece of shit. You're old and boring and ugly and probably don't make that much money and now she is looking at you with regret. You probably gave her ugly fat children too

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>>737484951
Brendan Fraser has had to pay his ex wife $900,000 a year every year since 2008. That's $8,100,000. This isn't counting the half she got in the divorce. This is alimony he paid ON TOP OF the half she got in the divorce settlement.

For that amount of money, he could have stocked a house like Charlie Sheen for all 9 of those years with 20 women and still have 2-3 million dollars left over.

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Yes white man, let the subhumans do the hard work.

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>>737477455
Not married, not single

>>737478702
I've got plenty of reasons to avoid passing on my genes.

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>>737477455
I think MGTOW was developed by median level males who wanted to knock out their competition, so they created this "revolutionary" idea of "sticking it to the (wo)man" by taking themselves out of the dating pool

Thus increasing the males chance of finding a successful mate who don't buy into MGTOW

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>>737477455

You MGTOW are a bunch of fukin fags. The only reason the only women you can find are assholess is because you guys are assholes. As my great grand papy said " Stupid assholes end up with bitchy assholes"

>>737485975
Salty?

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>>737477455
Marriage is for literal retards and homosexuals.

>>737477455
Sounds gay

>>737484558
No I get it I think being an incel or hardly ever getting laid like an MGTOW is better than getting made some cunts cuddle bitch while she's off slapping skins with some other guy behind your back. I've been in and seen enough relationships to know a lot of women are not particularly clever as for getting stuff out of the relationship, or even really that mean, take some responsibility for your failures in a relationship instead of crying about how bad all the women are. A lot of women date guys that are totally pathetic or just pieces of shit. The women are so terrible meme is just a weak excuse.

>>737477923
Trnslantion: MGTOWs are incels who are in denial.

I-I can totally get a g-girl if I wanted, I just don't w-want to!

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>>737484628
Wow they all reproduced huh? That must of been real complicated.

>>737486273
If you say so dumbass

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I don't understand the distain for this group.

Why do you care so much if men decide not to be completely retarded and don't castrate themselves into stupid legal entanglements?

>>737477455
Or that they simply aren't married. You're drawing connections where they really don't belong. Just because they aren't married does not mean that they are entirely against it or not willing to do so.

yer a focken idyut m8

>>737484844
Is your mom single?
Do you think she has a history of giving blowjobs on the first date?
Normally I don't go for milfs but you seem like you're about the age you should be out of the nest by now.

>>737478625
All jokes aside, this is genuinely a problem for society.

>>737486358

Cool jellyfish analogy

Sucks that its the dumbest shit i ever read

>>737486515
See
>>737486149

>>737484096
The fuck is teamo

Dont die thread

We still haven't stuck it to da man yet

>>737486552
>Sucks that its the dumbest shit i ever read
I can see you don't proof read your own writing.

>>737486847

No kiddin,

Hey whats up with the jellyfish?

>>737478759
Men Going Their Own Way implies that they have made a conscious decision. The same as saying that taking a wrong turn and ending up in the wrong neighborhood as equivalent to now moving into said neighborhood.

I recently had an unplanned child with my partner. We're very happy. People regularly ask me about marriage, but i know its a stupid thing to do. Feel like it will cause arguments in s year or two.

>>737487040
>Hey whats up with the jellyfish?
I really don't know. You'd think after millions of years of evolution and reproduction they'd sound a lot less retarded though.

>>737477455
I don't understand why anyone would get married in (current year). It just seems retarded.

Are you a masochist?

>>737486149
Don't you need to married for financial and health purposes?

>>737487340
Fuck man idk I'm 22 and single the whole thing seems like a dumb scam to fuck over men in my opinion.

>>737485049
wrong, wrong, wrong wrong and wrong.

Good insight tho Hannibal.

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>>737479009
this certainly does not look like the front web page of a group of people who are akin to scientist to spiders. I don't know about you, but I have not seen any biologist journals posted about how male spiders just need to go their own way, or that female spiders are all a part of some global spider conspiracy that somehow makes the male feel better about himself not being able to find a suitable long-term relationship partner

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>>737477455
I used to be MGTOW. I'd listen to Sandman, watch Tommy Sotomayor, the whole Nine. But then, I realized that it's just thinly-veiled misogyny coupled with whiny platitudes about how 'horrible' women are, mostly by good for nothing "men" (read: 'fuck-niggas') who dated and married entirely for looks, while they themselves had the bodies of potatoes with the personalities of sewer rats.

So, I decided to leave the MGTOW lifestyle, and even though I'm still not married or dating (not entirely by choice), I've come to actually respect women and reject the many negative stereotypes I used to hold about them because of what I had been told and had the misfortune of encountering from time to time.

We'll all die at some point or another, so I see no point in attaching yet another pointless title to myself.

>>737485975
your grand pappy was nothing more than a tool and probably a slave at that, as are you. enjoy being hearded like a fucking cow.

The whole point of MGTOW is breakig away from dogmatic thinking. Its finally thinking for yourself.

>>737486149
> Marriage is for literal retards and homosexuals.
> Marriage is for homosexuals.

This is my new slogan. Thanks /b/ro

>>737487663
Isn't it funny how they say things like
>>737487711
>The whole point of MGTOW is breakig away from dogmatic thinking.
while they repeatedly state the same dogmatic thinking over and over again?

>>737487451
I feel like the way marriage works today was more suitable for women in the early 1900s, seeing as how society was run by male dominance, so they needed to protect women legally.

Nowadays, since muh equal rights and PC movements are spreading, marriage shouldn't be as highly authoritative as it was.

>>737487181
yes, some are fucking losers who claim it was their plan all along.

Not me though - no interest. dumped a girl last year b/c I didn't want a GF.

I know its hard to imagine a man being a true master of his life, but it can happen.

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>>737487857
Women have always been protected. Why do you think they never got drafted then these stupid cunts turn around and bitch about male privilege.

>>737487663
good post. these are the things I think about. No answers yet, and even if I did have some they might change in a few years.

>>737487992
I don't think you understand that you can enjoy being single and also not be a woman hating, self-loathing sad shell of a person.

holy shit you're all a bunch of fucking faggots. trust me, no women will want to take your $200 savings. fucking losers

>>737488084
Valid points, anon. I guess marriage isn't enough of a problem for it to be changed....yet

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>>737487854
I think (or rather, I realized) it's because, whether they realize it or not, women still ironically dominate their every thought and action. Everything they do, from the food they eat, daily activities, etc is predicated on this
>I'm doing this without female interference!
umbrella. It's pointless, and nerve-wracking, because I'm pretty sure they get easily frustrated (or become awkward) when dealing with a female cashier or colleague.

>>737488163
I think a man just has to 'grow passed it' at some point, or hit a breaking point. Part of it for me was a vid of Tommy freaking out at a woman for hitting his truck: he screamed, swore, and threatened violence just like the very people he makes vid after vid complaining about.

>>737487663
>I'd listen to Sandman
>to Sandman
>Sandman

Fuck off normie. Barbarossaaaa or early Stardusk. Sotomayor and fucking Sandman are the worst.

>>737488284
What? No the whole things a trap.

>>737487854
ok, so when I implied MGTOW as something to latch on to as a movement I didn't quite mean that. What I meant was just literally doing what the name of the group says. I don't have a clue what they 'preach'.

Isn't the concept of doing your own thing 100% opposite of joining a though group? <GTOW is actually ironic AF.

Should have said just do your own thing as a man.

>>737487663

about time someone with some fucking sense. I don't understand why a bunch of "men" feel the need to get in a faggy little group and talk about how they are afraid of women.

don't wanna get married? ok. why do you feel the need to make some kind of liberal fucking agenda outta this.

>>737484204
I'm not MGTOW but if you think men don't pay for it you're as dumb as they come.

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>>737488355
It's the same narrative though, innit?
>women are bad
>they're bad because X, Y, Z.
>they're also inferior
>they're so inferior, we spend far too much time thinking about and trying to impress them
>the world would be better off without them, for they are just objects for our pleasure as men
>listen to me say these things again in another vid or podcast
>buy my book

>>737488209
where did you get I am woman hating from?

Being 100% free rules.

>>737488239
thats fine - they'll take your $300.

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>>737488577
But are you really 'free' Anon?

Do you *feel* free?

> BUY MY BOOK BECAUSE JUST TELLING YOU NOT GETTING MARRIED IS ENOUGH. THERE ARE SUPER SECRET METHODS OF NOT GETTING MARRIED THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW, IN MY BOOK, FOR $49.99

>>737488620
They're not taking shit because I'm a functional human. Not some beta faggot afraid that some chick is going to ruin my life

>>737488543
agree in spirit, but I'd modify what you said slightly -
The reason for the group is to free men from servitude/slavery/whatever you want to call it.

That being said the concept of a group thats all about individualism is stupid.

Also, not sure its liberal whatsoever.

>>737488577
Have you seen the MGTOW website? 80% is men just sitting there developing plots and conspiracies that women are a part of some global anti-men conglomerate and how they are all the same evil bitches. the other 20% are those same men whining/circle jerking about how they are all so free

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>>737488760
>and people buy the shit! lmao

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>>737488553
>women are bad
Women are like they are, so are men. Their nature remain static, and cause problem in a rapidly evolving environment.
As men we are on the short end of the stick in the current situation in many situation and have to take them into account.

>they're also inferior
They are different. Also we don't really care about them, that's the point. It's Men. Men going their own ways. You faggots are the one bringing the vaginas back into the conversation.

>they're so inferior, we spend far too much time thinking about and trying to impress them

bitch what

>buy my book
What book? All the material is available for free online.

>>737488876
i'm just sick of seeing good men turn into hermit fucking losers because they're easily manipulated by self-help guru's. This shit needs to stop.

>>737488694
financially, day-to-day, responsibility wise yes. I can get drunk on a Friday no problem, no consequence.

But if you are asking if I am free from the desire for pussy, then the answer is not a fucking chance. If anything I am more alive than others my age precisely because i am not marred, meaning in a no choice sexless life.

>>737488846
hahhahahah lol good luck with that.

They are devious. They will get to you. No matter what your attitude is. They always win. They will wear you down to a nub. Mark these words.

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>>737488982
If you don't care about them, why have you attached yourself to a 'movement' dedicated to telling the world (and them) just how much you don't care? You could just as easily stay single and unmarried the rest of your adult life without the child-like conspiracy theories and vilification of a good chunk of the human race.
>and quite frankly, the nicer chunk to look at and interact with 90% of the time

I hate cucktow but I hate the self important betas from pol as well
What do I do?

>>737489326
Looks like you will have to move off of the internet forever m9.

>>737488917
like I said, the idea of an 'individuals' group website is stupid, so I think I went there for less than 90 seconds once. They could teach me nothing I already haven't mastered.
no need for the conspiracy stuff either.

>>737478625
It isnt you looser. Its great with the right woman.

>>737477455
Lame, men can indeed get screwed but this "lifestyle" is a pathetic response to address gender inequality.

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>>737489316
>If you don't care about them, why have you attached yourself to a 'movement' dedicated to telling the world (and them) just how much you don't care?
Begging the question, warrant no answer.
Why am I MGTOW? Because I have considered the evidences presented and found them compelling. The lifestyle also fits me and allowed me to improve the quality of my life substentially.

>You could just as easily stay single and unmarried the rest of your adult life without the child-like conspiracy theories and vilification of a good chunk of the human race.
This is precisely what I do thank you very much.

>>737489304
So you're answer is to cower away like a bitch? live a life afraid of companionship, rotting in a retirement home alone? All because of the 0.01% chance a women might hurt me? Sounds like a cynical and fearful life you live mate.

>>737489015
I guess I don't see it personally. In my circle I'm the weird single guy.
If this thing is getting that much traction then I can agree with you.

#MoreWhiteBabies

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>>737487663
Honestly, I think you are true MGTOW. Not the semi-dogmatic sort of "mainstream" MGTOW, but you are what they want to be in that you have seen/heard different sides and have come to find or forge a path that fits you.

I don't know your views or whether or not we'd agree on a number of things, but finding your path - whatever it is - is, in my mind, a Good Thing.

>>737484096
kek

a real man is one that provides for his tribe. not some faggot with skinny arms who joins groups based on conspiracies and fear and jerks off to cartoons.

>>737489543
What about you propose your own solution einstein?

>>737477455
Okay, I'm not calling you gay, I'm genuinely curious. Do you, and if not why not? Fill the sexual void with men?

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>>737489591
It may just be me, but I think you consider yourself 'MGTOW' because you feel the need to attach yourself to something. As with Boba Fett, Darth Vader, and their armor, MGTOW is *your* armor in dealing with the outside world and the forces within it that you can't control--particularly the unstoppable force that is femininity. This 'armor' makes you feel stronger than you really are.

But, I digress.

You could stay single, sure, no one is contesting that. But is it really necessary to join some online "boys only" club in doing so? While at the same time, painting women everywhere with such a broad brush? I don't think so, and that's exactly what I used to do. I'm glad I stopped; the world's far more interesting when you don't hate half of it.

>>737489660
Certainly, as opposed to having one laid out for you.

>>737489603
you aren't seeing it correctly. There is no cowering here. No fear either.

I just don't want to deal with the shit. Its that simple. Even when I think about the good times with a chick. The bad times don't even register if you cant get past the good times.

Look faggot, There are different viewpoints aside from 'traditional'. Get used to them.you are most likely too young to understand.

Why should I? You are almost implying that its a 'duty'. Fuck that.

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>being rejected one too many times

>>737489763
says the guy posting on /b/.

Alrighty then...

>>737489884

>equating marriage with sex
>being this confused

MGTOW = silly little entitled chicken shit who doesn't know a thing about being a real man.

>>737489488
You're a part of the movement yet you don't follow what the movement says? So why commit to a title, specifically subjugate yourself to the stigma and retardation that comes with it?

Any Mgtow monks here

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>>737479238
I can use this (totally out of context) , saved

>>737490173
But sex is a position where she could use the state against you. She could turn around and say you raped her the next day. Rough herself up for show.

>>737490031
Whatever gets you through the day man. Like I said before, I'm sick of seeing men turn into these angry hermit cucks by someone who's angry at the world. Life isn't easy, never will be. If you want to try your best to never "deal with shit" then have it. Just saying, something else is gonna come along and fuck your day up just as much.

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This is also how I learned what an "ancap" is.

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>>737489983
>MGTOW is *your* armor
You're watching too much bad movies. Star wars was meant to be a B movie and its fanbase made it into the monster it is today.

> But is it really necessary to join some online "boys only" club in doing so?

It's not a club. We dont have a discord or anything. MGTOW is descriptive label, not a prescriptive label.

> the world's far more interesting when you don't hate half of it.
The world is more interesting when you have a clue what you're doing in it. You joined MGTOW out of spite and you left it when the rage passed. Most MGTOW follow that path and go right back to the plantations afterward. I became a MGTOW while evaluating the merits of various counter-theories on gender dynamics and I found this one the most compelling.

>>737488456
I don't think that a group of guys is all that weird, it's natural for people to do that sort of thing.
It's when they start getting group think going, anyone that disagrees is part of the problem. It's a cult. They repeat the same messages if you don't know what they preach you will eventually because it's literally all they ever talk about constantly as if they're not capable of independent thought.

>>737489839
Nah, I'll leave that to someone else.

there's a reason all these priests fuck little kids and nuns beat them. depriving yourself of the other sex will make you lose your mind.

>>737490493
Lame

>>737489591
>The lifestyle also fits me
or as they say
he couldn't get a relationship and lived alone or with his parents so it fit either way since no women would want to live there

>>737490229
I'm not part of a/the movement you toolbox. I just happen to do my own thing and there is an overlap. For the 3rd time now, being an individualist who is a part of a group movement of individualists is a divide by zero situation. Your brain will be filled with both WAT and FUCK.

>>737490557
At least it isn't MGTOW level of lame.

>>737478205
>MLTGPDO
Ive read it like MLGpedo

>>737490706
You're messing causes and consequences, else it's correct. It's a fine life, and I got suckers running on the hamsterweel to found it. Enjoy paying your taxes?

>>737490921
Girl I pay to do my taxes is pretty. Nice girl I sent a few people her way for that stuff. 10/10 would bang

>>737490357
> something else is gonna come along and fuck your day up just as much
maybe, but most likely not. I'll take my chances.

Part of the thinking is to break away and free yourself from the ultimate power in the universe that rules all nonfag men - Pussy. Our entire world structure is built by men who waned pussy. Its about realizing your own self worth without succumbing to the innate physical urges within us. In that regard, it is highly intellectual - using the human brain to overcome the reptillian/mamillian brain.
Break away from the chains of nature and culture. What could be more intellectually satisfying?

>>737490716
Do you understand where the confusion comes from though right? What you're saying is like a knight claiming that he does not fight for his country, or alongside his fellow brethren, but just happens to use the title because there are overlaps with his own personal agenda.

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>>737491119
That's fantastic you alpha male you. You're doing good to this world, don't stop running

>>737490450
I could have written those word myself.

cheers

>>737490402
Yeah bro alot of mgtow end up doing that that's why I believe the red pill and therefore mgtow isn't for everyone they're just stuck in their woman bashing face

>>737477455
Enjoy your monk mode faggot.

>>737486273
>because prostitutes are hard to find

"You can only get laid by paying for it. THAT'S how worthless you are."

>a man is only valuable if women vouch for him
>they bestow the title of human being only to the worthy

You have a slave mentality. You believe that your worth as a human being is based upon the opinion of women.

>>737490501
maybe just remove the word "other" and you are good.

Priests have always been fags. Every family that had a queer son would send them off to be priests.

sex without commitment or cohabitation is awesome, never stop

>>737486462
>Jezebel view mgtow as a serious threat because it has the potential of turning women against them
>stormfags view mgtow as a serious threat because it undermines white birth rates

>>737477455
>uaghh let's just reject marriage and fabricate our own special world called a manosphere and pretend to be intellectuals because we can't effectively combat gender standards so we have a cult with cool rhetoric
>Wut? I'm not a misogynist, you're just gynocentric and brainwashed by the manipulative monster that is woman (totally not a misogynist comment btw)
>HAHA relationships are stupid and you're a slave for being in one
>why are you spending time with a woman when you can add members to my cul-I mean, respectable movement
OP is a faggot lacking in sensibility and rationality. No value to /b/ either.

>>737477455
>70% of all men under the age of 35 are not married.
Does that include children?

>>737491354
>I believe the red pill and therefore mgtow isn't for everyone
Yeah. Understanding is liberating, but a lot of MGTOW are just with us to rant after a rupture, we can spot them from miles away. I don't blame them, it's fine.

It's a shame they go to a sandman instead of a coltaine most of the time, they could learn stuff from the experience.

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>>737477455
ITT
>PermaVirgin Neckbeards

>>737487301
If you don't have the courage to get married, you aren't a real man.

>>737491235
yeah, gotcha.

Just saying me personally I was doing this shit before some stupid internet group formed.

And I have a few friends who are like minded. we are a bit older than most btrards, which means culturally we have to stick our heads in the sand a bit more than newer generations. Anything goes with Millenials lol

>>737487640
Missing the point by THIS much

>>737491766
Geeze really got me there.

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>>737491714

>>737491766
enjoy your divorce settlement. kid. Advice: Hide a good % of your income. You will need it.

>>737490863
Real MLG pedoz can pull of a 360° no-consent

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>>737489538
The woman in the red dress was never real

>>737491711
Same though i prefer watching the more philosophical and informational side of mgtow I agree with tfm that if mgtow supposed to grow we need our sandmans and mgtow 101s but I think as go further into mgtow looking for information and knowledge is a good road to take to our eventuality where we leave mgtow with what we learned. I just live for myself now

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>>737478196
Permavirgin in denial

>>737492687
>tfw MGTOW is moronic enough ti actually believe in "roasties"

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>>737489763
Women are not weaker than men. Physical strength is only one attribute of many attributes. Emotional intelligence is another attribute and being able to use it to manipulate others effectively is a form of strength.

The fact that men have evolved into a state where they have larger muscles than women is actually evidence of women being able to dominate men. They dominate men by manipulating men into turning over the fruits of their labor to women and they accomplish this feat rather easily. Women have no need for muscles when they can just get a man to perform menial tasks for them. Your larger muscles are evidence of your forefathers having been emotionally dominated by a woman who manipulated him into volunteering to be her drone.

Allow me to put this concept into terms to which you can relate.

When you play a summoner in an RPG and you use your summoned creature to kill the enemies you encounter in the game environment while you hang back at a relatively safe distance, do you give credit for those kills to the creature you summoned? Of course not. You consider every creature your summoned creature killed for you your kill and you don't even question that you deserve the experience points. The summoned creature who actually did the killing for you is just a drone.

Getting a man to do something for her is as easy for a woman as it is for you to press the #3 key on your keyboard to summon a creature in an RPG. That isn't weakness. It is a very strong capability.

Traditional women are a very real danger to men. They go through life surrounded by drones and all they have to do to activate them for protection is damsel.

>>737492352
eyebrows of judaism

>>737489763
>men as providers
This isn't the early holocene son.
(btw not MGTOW)

>>737489884
What sexual void?

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>>737492547
Yeah, the label by itself is a bit meaningless. It's not like we're going to reform society anyway.
I really only find it useful when talking to other mgtow, because that way we know we have read/heard the same corpus, that makes things easier.
Also I think it's normal to be angry after having been sold a lie all our lives, but the endgame is to live happy understanding reality, not to go back to the lie.

Now I'm fine. Five years ago I was totally miserable.

>>737492791
I preger the TES meathod where you don't get exp for the kill, just the conjuration.

I don't like that this mentality is centered around women. I don't want to be tied down by anything, family, career, love, anything. I want to have enough money to be able to say fuck it at a moment's notice quit my job and go backpacking or live alone out in the sticks. I want freedom in the purest sense of the word.

>>737492989
The one behind your taint.

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>>737480829
MGTOW its made up mainly of stormfags like yourself, dumbfuck.

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I love how all the pussy whipped and married cucks are trying to justify their cuckdom with "hurr you're basement dweller"

You can get a spine, I believe in you.

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>>737481402
>the joooos

better adjust your tinfoil hat, retard, or torah-radar will resonate your fillings.

>>737478625
>>737478625
> /b/Yes some women do it
> Newly married
> 2 months passed

>>737493230
>cuck
Stopped reading.

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>>737493230
Just wait a bit. 50% of them will have reality slammed in their face at some point.

>>737493230
It's women dude. This thread is saturated by replies from buttmad femanons.

>>737493359
I hope you feel better in your safe space now
>>737493446
it already did, marriage cucks are just trying their hardest to deny having been tricked and exploited because it's a painful realization

>>737493583
I guess women have to tell themselves we're virgins in order to cope with being rejected and considered worthless.

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I wanna thank MGTOW and incels for being who you are. (Let's be honest though, there's a lot of overlap :P)
Through your shitty views towards women and sex, you voluntarily cut yourselves out of the dating/sex pool, allowing people like me to get laid more.
I'm 5'7", don't go to the gym, don't own a car, and don't even have much money to my name at all. At one point in my life- let's call it my "incel phase", I thought these things were the reason I couldn't get laid. Eventually I found out the truth is I don't have to be ripped, tall, or even rich to get laid on the regular; all I have to do is not be like you guys.
Thank you for lowering the bar for the rest of us!

>>737492791
Okay, but men and women work together to get things done based on their strengths, like an RPG party cooperating to overcome an encounter. If your example was realistic the summon would have free will and choose to work with the summoner for mutual benefit - they share experience and loot

>>737493726
You'll get bored once you go thru an amount of women, young padawan

>women are terrible and exploitative towards men, just look at the statistics
>we don't hate or fear them and we keep fucking them
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

>>737493726
>Implying we werent like you before getting fucked.over

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>>737493126
>>737480829
I'm confused, are the jews pro or ant-mgtow?

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>>737493726
Dude, I'm a fucking trap and i've fucked more girls than these MGTOW Idiots.

>pic related, I'm cumming in her tonight.

>>737493984
>pic related, I'm cumming in her tonight.

Why?

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>>737493643
It's a functional lie. I mean, Im putting myself in the shoes of a married dude with the creeping realization that sweetheart only likes him when he buy her expensive shit after some years, live a sexless life and start to get kicked out of his own bed - what is he going to do? Divorce?
And imagine a group of dudes keep hammeringto him the idea that maybe he made a stupid choice. I'd understand their anger.

>>737493708
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

MGTOW has the potential of forcing women to confront the unfairness of divorce laws. Women there are no men willing to propose marriage, they are literally going to shit themselves.

>>737493643
>safe space
Stopped reading. Got anything original and thoughtful or are you gonna keep regurgitating buzzwords and holding yourself as substantial for doing so?

>>737493870
Nah, tho. People told me that when I was younger. Still going.

>>737493984
>sticking your dick in that
you are looking more pathetic than MGTOW right now

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>>737493984
>A trap that fucks women

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>>737493230
married n girlfriend types rekt hard!

>>737494040
Not the other guy btw, but probably because birth control exists and it feels good man

>>737494040
Because why the hell not.
>>737494090
I like big tits, and i cannot lie. Plus, betcha have nothing other than your hand to make you cum tonight, lol.

>>737493726
no retard
mgtow fuck more
and skip the comitment n paying part
you cock gobbling faggot

>>737494077
maybe sex just doesnt do much for me. i prefer prelude lol
>>737494070
im trying to respond to things at your level. i dont want to overpower you
>>737494063
women already know, they just wanna keep their advantage and dont mind cucking men
>>737494051
true

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>>737493742
This is the short version of what I'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHvh6Ncp6M

A traditional woman rules her household by feigning weakness, wrapping her gullible, easily manipulated provision drone around her finger like a puppet on a string.

>>737494175
i'd rather fuck my hand than that, get some self respect man

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>>737493984
>when you try to be the cool guy by bashing the new kid in school but it backfires and now everyone knows you're fucking a hamplanet

>>737493984
Good for you, my dude. Enjoy! :)

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>>737477455kill the pro feminist and upload on liveleak

>>737493742
>Comparing marriage to an RPG

>>737477455
I think your movement is full of a bunch of pussy ass babies.

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>>737494214
If you never enter into a relationship, you effectively become immune to cuckolding.

It literally becomes impossible for you to be cucked.

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>>737493975
Torah sez...... Men must marry.

There's your answer. Don't listen to stormfaggots who contradict themselves in their foaming-at-the-mouth retardation fits. What else could you expect from low-IQ lifelong failures who worship Shitler, the main who failed in everything throughout his entire life?

>>737494285
>masturbation is better than sex with an actual human who's into it
Keep telling yourself that as you reach for the coconut oil.

>>737494479
Funniest part is marriedfags do it because they cant get laid unless they offer the world to a woman.

>>737494214
Try me, I bet you couldn't make a single point without a buzzword or some other form of cheap excuse to feign superiority.

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>>737494479
You need polyamory, my guy.

>>737494526
>MGTOW
>Stormfags
Those two groups do not interract with each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fW8OR3fyzQ

>>737494564
I'll enjoy keeping my pride while you hate yourself for being a freak and having to fuck fatties.

>>737494587
I'll just let you talk and not even make any retorts which will be enough to make me look like the smartest here.

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>>737494436
I think continuing to call it a movement after we've told you countless times it isn't a movement is an attempt define us, but all it is really doing is establishing that you're the one who is rustled.

>>737494679
Lol, not that guy but oh wow.

>>737494191
>MGTOW fuck more
Nice blanket statement.
Why is it then that anyone I've met who claims they're MGOTW is actually a repulsive fedora with arms who's too proud to call themselves an incel?

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ITT: Unmarried women asserting that married men have sex

>>737494285
Did i hear "REEEE"?
>>737494293
I definitely heard "REEEEE"
>>737494317
Thanks anon

>>737486149
there you go .. let this stinky human race go extint

>>737494741
Translation: you admit you don't have any real case. I figured as much from someone in a hate-cult but I had to be sure.

>>737494679
Sounds like you genuinely hate women, but okay