Why do you despise Trump so much? He seems to be trying

Because he fucked up their plan. They got a black in. Then were going to get a women in and then another woman minority until there is a pansexual tranny got in. But now its back to a straight white male and will be for a while.

> He seems to be trying to do the right thing

what do you imagine is "the right thing"?

pulling out of international accords that are intended to prevent catastrophic climate change?

removing healthcare plans from some 22 million citizens, estimated to be likely to result in an additional 45,000 deaths per annum?

Tax breaks for the richest 1% in society?

>>737465888
>pulling out of international accords that are intended to prevent catastrophic climate change?
Those accords weren't even binding and were just for show and we were having to do the most while China pledged to do something once they felt like it
>removing healthcare plans from some 22 million citizens, estimated to be likely to result in an additional 45,000 deaths per annum?
They can get jobs or buy their own insurance. There is no right to insurance.
>Tax breaks for the richest 1% in society?
This he shouldn't do. Fuck the rich. Tax them and companies more. Companies are people in their eyes so they should pay taxes like a person. 50%

>>737465770
But let's sit down and take a hard look at who Trump is as a person, okay he talked about a girls pussy a few time and said some bad words another time, but he's been very successful otherwise and he seems to genuinely want to help Americans which speaks volumes more than every other politician around. Why do people hate him so much?

>>737466175
Hating Trump is the cool thing to do. All the cool kids are doing it.

>>737466312
All the pussies and whiny cunts are doing it.

>>737465888
Helping Americans towards success is always the right thing

>>737466389
That is who has influence now I guess. Same people who are giving this bullshit feminism movement momentum

>>737466544
They don't have any momentum because they have no leader.

Let's hope it stays that way

>>737466739
No momentum? They had Obama talking about the wage gap. Superbowl commercials pushing it.

Cause he's a moron whose completely full of shit and has no idea what he's doing. He's all talk and no action.

He and these corporate republicans are doing everything they can to kill americans through lack of healthcare and increased pollution.

If you LIKE Trump then you are deluted to the point of near insanity. He represents everything stupid about this country. An entirely unearned arrogance and breathtaking lack of knowledge and intellectual curiosity.

But he makes stupid and disenfranchised poor people feel smart so, good for them.

>>737466501
>Helping Americans towards success is always the right thing

and global warming resulting in worsening extremes of weather, flooding of coastal areas, more powerful tornadoes etc will help Americans succeed?

Removing their healthcare making thousands die each year and tens of thousands face bankruptcy or poverty will help Americans succeed?

Tax breaks for the ones who have already amassed fortunes will help the normal guy in the street succeed?

I doubt it.

Build the wall

>>737467167
Your attitude is the reason he won.

>>737467301
Removing their health care. Lmao.... Such a lie. People will no longer be mandated to buy coverage. That's not the same thing as 22 million losing insurance. Are you libs really that stupid to buy into that talking point

>>737467167
ok, let me ask you a question... why the fuck should I (a healthy 32 year old man who works out and takes care of his body) be forced to purchase something (health insurance) that I won't have to use for at least another 10 years? While some fat fuck NEET with diabetes who ate fucking Cheetos and downed mountain dew his entire life like it was a fucking clearance sale pay the same as or less than me for health insurance?

> why should I have to subsidize someone else's terrible life choices?

>>737466113
What's the benefit of pulling out of the Paris accord? Nothing. So why do it?

No one "has a right" to anything. Not healthcare, not police protection, not citizenship, not freedom. Rights are imaginary things that a government says you have. Today healthcare isn't a right. Tomorrow it could be, that's how rights work. Not everyone CAN work, are you fucking stupid?

Yea seriously fuck the 1%. Along with the top 10%. Wealth distribution in this country is the definition of insanity.

>>737467301
>global warming

Oh God. Okay here we go

So how do humans influence the climate? Should we not exist altogether? Another libtard greenie conspiracy theorist detected

Sheikh trump abu-ivanka al-amriki is the perfect prez. For usa. Haters will hate.

30 years ago you stupid libs said we were going into a deep freeze. Then it was global warming, now it's climate change. Fucking hilarious

>>737467512
No requirement to buy healthcare. Healthy people don't buy healthcare. Premiums go up for the sick and elderly. They can't afford insurance, they lose healthcare. 22 million are at risk.

It's not rocket science, you just have to pull your head out of Trump's ass for like 2 seconds and for this "Us vs Them dirty Libs" bullshit rich politicians have fed you.

>>737467638
Pollution is one thing. There's no conservative who says that pollution and dumping plastic in the ocean to fuck up the birds and fish is a good thing. But the myth that humans cause climate change is something else altogether, and it's turned out to be a pretty big cash cow.

Human-caused climate change is a scam. It's all a fake story designed to exploit money from people

>>737467852
Hahaha, ah I see you are a socialist. Give me everything. I shouldn't have to work for anything. Give me, give me.... Give me.

>>737467795
What was the last 30 years of scientific consensus you decided to ignore?

>>737467852
why should I have to pay for this? a good portion of those "sick" are that way because they made terrible fucking life choices... why should I have to subsidize their stupidity, gluttony, etc?

>>737467960
Not socialism, it's just common sense. If you're ok with 22 million losing healthcare, you're ok with it. If you're ok with a percentage of those people dying that's how you feel. But don't pretend it isn't happening. that's just intellectual dishonesty.

If you don't give a fuck about sick people dying that's your choice, just own it. Don't be a coward.

Get a fucking job you lazy liberals, earn something for yourselves for once

>>737467512
So people that HAVE health insurance now, but will NO LONGER have health insurance in the future is not a loss of health insurance.

...Okay.

You also seem to confound the folks that wil just opt out of the market because they won't have to pay the penalty for not participating anymore to those FORCED out of the market because they get fucked in the ass by spiked rates due to removal of pre-existing conditions protections, lifetime/annual limits and actually dying earlier because the expectation is that preventative care coverage will be so impoverished.

That's a cool thing to do. I don't say this lightly, but I do actually wish you get cancer. A small one, like, say, basal cell or an easily treated leukemia. Then I want to see you experience the true freedom of the free market's approach to handling your illness and course of treatment.

Enjoy.

>>737468163
It's a wonder you are even here. How did your parents survive and their parents. They probably worked for what they had. Now you lazy mother fuckers want everything for free

who gives a shit about polticz

>>737465497
spending most of his time golfing, watching cable TV news, and starting drama on Twitter doesn't seem like trying to do the right thing

>>737465497
Nobody did shit with their life "trying to do the right thing"

>>737468026
That's how ALL insurance works. You pay insurance on your car and never get in a accident, do you bitch about "Why do i have to pay for bad drivers?!" or home insurance you never use. And should you ever get in an accident and have to use insurance, someone else is paying for YOU. That's literally how it's always worked.

The only difference is that now rich people are telling you everyone who's poor deserves it because they are horrible people. And you're a good person for hating them. You have been lied to my friend.

>>737468252
Typical liberal hate. The party of tolerance and love. What a bunch of bullshit. Just the party of give me

>>737468163
Why is it the goverments role you help keep people who cant support themselves alive? Arent those people just using resources and holding us back? They should be put out into nature to live on their own if they cant pay to live in society

>>737468430
If all conservatives were as intolerant as the liberals all the liberals would all be gunned down and killed in the streets.

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Lock the traitor up!

Dems are so out of touch with reality. They think money grows on trees. They accept no responsibility. They are the complete downfall of this great country

>>737468430
Aw did the widdo brofwake get hurt in his widdo feewings?

You internet tough guys rooting for Trump are the most hypocritical little bitches on the planet. Fuck your dumb ass back to your room in Mom's house. Some of us have real problems.

>>737468628
You are a fucking idiot.

>>737468372
Dude, i make around 150-160k in a good year. Worked 7 days a week for 5 years and have had health insurance for my entire life through my jobs. Shit, i have 2 life insurance policies. I don't want shit for free, i want everyone to be healthy because i want my country to be great. I don't want us to basically be a third world country with nukes.

But since i stopped working 7 days a week i do feel lazy so ya got me there i guess.

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>>737468676
We work for a living, to you that's a problem

Why are you niggers not concerned about your immediate situation and your local community? Why do you watch the fake fucking news? It's all fake shit. All of the national news is fake af. take care of your family and forget their fake shit.

>the top 400 wealthiest people in the US have a combined net worth of 2.4 trillion dollars

>US debt is around 20-30 trillion dollars

>the global economy is estimated to be worth 70 trillion dollars

>financial assets around the globe are said to be worth 225 trillion dollars

anyone seeing the bigger picture here?

>>737468494
Why is it the government's role to supply a military, or police force or fire department or legal system? Same answer.

>>737468676
Don't worry little buddy. I'm sure you will still get your government cheese and if you are lucky maybe you will even be allowed to keep your free cell phone. Get off your ass and do something with your life instead of expecting me to pay for all your shit

>>737468834
Take over the world?

>>737468577
So you think only conservatives can buy guns?! What are you talking about.

>>737468842
Those are in the constitution. Healthcare isnt.

>>737468414

lied to my ass... Under the current system EVERYONE pays the same rate; which is complete horse shit... I take care of myself and my body. I don't think it's fair that some fat fuck who fucking shoves ice cream down his throat 24/7 and has diabetes and whatever else these fat fucks have pays the same as or less than I do for health insurance; this goes for people with pre-existing conditions as well... People who get into car accidents often have to pay MORE for their car insurance.

>>737468906
Point flies overhead

You

>>737468906
You think the people who are trying to limit guns and stop people from buying them have a shitload at home?

>>737468954
You do realize the constitution is just words written on paper, by people right? They're not magic.

>>737468969
If you make people pay more for preexisting conditions you will basically kill those people because the cost would be so high that they would work just to get insurance.

>>737468969
With that logic you may as well say you don't need to pay for a fire department when you don't start fires

>>737469204
with that logic I should do jail time because some dickhead burned down my house...

>>737469128
Actually considering the amount and magnitude of bullshit this world has seen from thousand of civilizations trying to make everything right, I'd say the constitution is about as magical as it gets

>>737468969
Bro, we're talking about 22 million people. How many fat fucks eating ice cream do you think there are that couldn't afford a healthcare hike. Also, you clearly have NO idea what healthcare costs in this country. ONE chemo treatment can cost 10k when you don't have health insurance. And i haven't heard of anyone being cured after one round of chemo.

>>737469188
Darwinism... ever heard of it?

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>>737468812
Nothing about what he does is pro workers you fucking goof troop.

Saying shit like that instantly red flags you as a basement dwelling cousin fucker who has no value because they contribute nothing in life, because they don't have a job.

>>737467573
>I'd like to take "what is being a decent human being for a 2% tax", please.
Universal healthcare isn't that hard, and ye there's gonna be some people that bring their health down on their own but you can't discredit the people that simply can't afford the shit or who are born with a preexisting condition.

>>737469128
You are fucking with me right? They are not just words on paper. They are edicts from the creator, arent they??

Yeah motherfucker i know that shit. but you are the one who said we have these things why not this so i point out why. You can change the words on the paper to make it so healthcare is provided and that is the discussion we are having now.

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>>737469128
You are aware that those words and piece of paper is why our nation is still standing right?? You know millions of veterans and service members swore to defend those words and piece of paper from all enemies right?? You do understand that its our way of life

>>737467573
It might benefit the country as a whole to help your fellow citizen regardless of how they got into their state of unheath. If you hate them so much sending a few tax dollars their way might lessen how many you have to interact with. Whether or not those outcomes benefit you at all is of course up for you to decide.

Here's the problem with Donald Trump

He buys property
He builds hotels
He's just money
Thats's what he did with it...

Love it or hate it, it's the American thing apparently to own more than just yourself. You need businesses you were never there to nurture.

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>>737469360
Actually I keep you safe at night

>>737469356
>Claims darwinism

>Can't understand society.

Nigger, you're a dumb nigger. You should invest some time in researching the words you're trying to use as insults, you fucking mongoloid.

>>737469295
Don't see the logic

>>737469030
Your implication is that liberals are so violent that they shoot people on the street, since you said conservatives rising to their level of violence Would shoot people in the street.

Which is clearly false as no liberals are shooting conservatives in the steeet

>>737468893

no sir, my point is that when people talk about the cost involved with becoming an interplanetary species saying it will cost trillions of dollars, it complete bullshit...we could easily become just that, but why aren't we is the real question. obviously the way money is represented is a fucking joke and the only ones who seem to know this are the wealthy and governments, so why aren't they doing more to either make this planet great again or better still make our species an interplanetary one?

>>737469356
>let's pull out a model that's about 50 million years out of date with modern society.
Keep living like a Neanderthal my friend

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>>737469556
You don't keep shit safe except your deflated balls, you sissy faggot.

Anybody who's also in the military knows how much of a bullshit "war" this is, and that it's a source of drug smuggling and back water deals.

Are you done being a fucking loser? Why not put in an application while you're pulling your pud to some trap shit you faggots do.

>>737469563
yup... I'm the dumb one... HURR DURR you got me bro...

>>737469435
If those words were the only reason OUR nation is standing then there would be NO other nations on earth as they don't follow our constitution. Also there are a great many parts of our lives not covered in it.

>>737469566
why should I pay for someone elses mistakes/problems?

>>737469678
>can't handle facts, hurl insults...

>>737469831
There are no other nations standing like ours. They may be nations but they ain't us

>>737469835
Because when the time comes for when you need help, you'll know you're covered

>>737465888
You do realize the US contributed a billion towards climate change reform, vs China contributing nothing?

He has obvious mental disabilities. The fact he only looks "stupid" relative to other American's is amusing.

>>737469731
To prove you wrong is illegal.

So you can call me a faggot and feel like a big boy with balls and a high chair or you can accept the fact that there are people who do things that keep us safe.

I got nothing else

>>737469835
Yea cause being born blind or getting cancer at age 9 is their bad choices. Nice logic bro. Try visiting a hospital or talking to a doctor to find out the actual causes of illness.

>>737470031
I'm not that selfish... If I ever get to that point I'm putting 00 in my dome.

>>737469514
Its called natural selection, Darwinism and basics of physics for every action there is an equal reaction. For the poor and elderly they have medicade and medicare alot of the 22mil are people who bought that bullshit insurance so they wont get the penalty. Also if you want government ran health care go to a on base hospital or the VA.... thats what its like but it will be worse because of more people going in.... u got your pill seekers, hypochondriacs and fakers.... also a trip to the ER u cant be denied treatment if its public hospitals, if you are poor with no insurance they will take care of u and get a tax write off for it. Also as long as you can make some kind of payment they wont turn u over to collection agency, avoid paying for 7 years ur scott free...

>>737469757
It's ok you're a stoop kid.

Admitting your problem is the first step to fixing it.

Should try what I said, invest some moments into looking at what Darwinism is, because it isn't all about things dying because the lack of use, you fucking gopher.

>>737465497
>He seems to be trying to do the right thing
>randomly bombing syria
>insulting as many people as possible
>destroying as much of the presidential honor as possible
>removing health care from 22 million people
>selling F-16 to a country that funds terrorists

>>737469974
Facts that are, again, completely outdated for modern human society. Darwinism is only a model to show how the strongest species survive while the weak perish. We're all the same species here, maybe making sure that 22 million people don't die will help ensure the survival rate?

>>737470126
Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection.

>you are a dumb fuck...

>>737470027
And our nation could be so much better. WE should have the the large hadron collider! We should have a thriving space program! We should be the leaders of green energy!! Not fucking china! We should have the happiest populace in the world not fucking Sweden! We should have the longest life expectancy noy fucking Japan!

>>737467301
Lol this dumb cunt actually believes in climate change. When New York isn't underwater in 2030, remember this

>>737470051
A billion to what, is that meant to be a large number? that could fund any tiny scheme.

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>>737470086
>I'm a dumb nigger who thinks fatigue/geo shots are illegal

HAHAHA I hope when you try to pretend to be a soldier around real men they fucking ass rape you to death, you pussy.

You got nothing else because I caught you in a bald faced lie. We all know the shit and what the shit's about. The only person who doesn't is you, because like I said you're a basement dwelling fuck boi who claims he's in it.

Go on now, enjoy your rompers and spinners you fucking pussy. MAH TAXES and all that redneck shit you cousin fucking, gene deficient, supremacists think.

Just know I really enjoyed pushing you out of that little world you lived in and exposed you for the piece of shit you really are.

>>737469377
Words on paper won't suddenly make universal healthcare an economically viable plan in this country.

>>737470118
That's not how natural selection works. It doesn't mean "sick people die". Like... what the actual fuck.

>>737470571
If we stopped giving money to poor countries we could afford it.

>>737470404
Dude half of New York got flooded 4 years ago by hurricane Sandy. I was there. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>737470593
I am convinced that this is either bait or that these people are mentally retarded; therefore arguing for subsidized health care is in their best interest...

>>737470206
Idiot the syria bombing was a show of force thats why casulties and damages were kept to a minimum.... do you know how much damage a tomahawk can do??? With us doing that Russia respects us and they know were back on our feet, it also made china threaten to bomb the DPRK... which is a huge deal the moab was icing in the cake.
Also him saying what everybody is thinking isnt called being rude its called having balls.... the 22mil majority of them only got to avoid being screwed with the fines.... people are acting like he got rid of medicade and shit...
Also we've been selling saudies shit for a long long time including abram tanks and apache helicopters.... those were done behind closed doors. At least trump was transparent about it and told the public.... also that weapons deal was authorized by obama while he was still in office

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>>737470318
>Holy fuck, you don't read

Do you even know what words are?

>Darwinism: the theory of the evolution of species by natural selection advanced by Charles Darwin.

>Some species have no technical advantage over others and are the dominant morphology.

>Some are just outright the worst design but still continue(Dodo until human intervention)

You are so fucking stupid you can't even begin to understand the world around you, and posts like this prove it. Enjoy being so unfathomably wrong on every count, it'll take you fucking lightyears of education to put you at the kindergarten level.

>>737470404
What I'm saying is, a billion dollars in taxpayer money went towards what's in the Paris climate accord, vs China, the world's largest polluter, paying absolutely NOTHING. It's not like Trump is just saying "fuck the world!" , we're being raped by every other major country in the world. Hard , no lube, prison rape. Taken advantage of and reaped of our resources for the benefits of others. Trump is trying to help the US regain its independence and respect as a nation again.

>>737470355
Climate change is real, China's horrible smog, melting icebergs, flights in Phoenix canceled due to it being too hot. The list goes on

>>737470704
Go to the VA hospital and tell me what you see. Then tell me that universal healthcare in this country will work on a large scale.

>>737470744
A show of force?? Do you think there's a country on earth that doesn't know exactly how much force the US is capable of?! Still the only country to drop nukes on cities. Grow the fuck up kid.

>>737470352
Or we could be like the majority of other nations, we still lead in aviation, space and tech, we got clean water and shit.... and happiest place isnt sweden anymore especially after all the rapes and shit.... terrorism is down, we are kicking isis in the ass jobs are back the dollar is on the rise and the dow is high.... What more do u want to complain about?

>>737470851
And guess what, China gives NO fucks. They haven't contributed shit towards climate change reform, and completely relied on the United States to solve its problems. Wake the fuck up.

>>737465497
Fucking hell this tantrum throwing bullshit makes labeling someone a "liberal" almost an insult. This shit is fucking pathetic, I hated Clinton about as much as trump and voted for neither because they're both corrupt as fuck, just in different ways

>>737470566
Ok

>>737470785
you are literally too stupid to have a conversation with. I look forward to reading your obituary.

>>737470973
>If you can't beat them, join them

>>737468774
Nigga I'm the same during my busy season I work 12hrs a day 7 days a week for 2 months and 9-5 the rest of the time. Income is 150-175 per year the freeloading ebt days at Walmart have to end

>>737470973
Im not saying China isnt being retarded. What I'm saying is that climate change is real

>>737470810
The US is the world's largest polluter, we've been at it longer. No one forced us to pay a billion. Dipshit

>>737470938
Alot of it is still classified.... just like the moab no one knew about it till we dropped it... they know about our conventional weaponry etc. It was indeed a show of force they know we're not going to roll over anymore.... remember when russia steamrolled Georgia in less than 3 days??? Remember how weak we sounded when all we can do is say hey stop it.... now we got balls... escalation of force is always been part of the military way and obama was the first to draw the line in the sand and trump followed through.... i know all about show of force and rules of engagement i didnt spend 10 months in the hindukush mts for nothing

>>737468878
>>737468812
Six figure salary, four kids, tithe to charity. If I liquidate right now, it'd be north of $1M. All this and I am still sweating heathcare.

You just don't understand a fucking thing about the real world, kid.

>>737471178
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/05/31/how-us-carbon-pollution-compares-with-the-rest-of-the-world.html

>The US is the second largest emitter of carbon dioxide, behind China

>>737471163
No it isn't sorry faggot. Climate change is real its called coming out of the little ice age. grow the fuck up and stop watching the fake news. Or just kys

>>737471295
>Boys on 4chan forget they mingle and talk with with men who work for a living

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>>737471270
Yeah right fat boy. Video games don't count. Go back to jerking off to anime in your basement while the real men talk

>>737467167
but a limp wristed anti american muslim racist is better? or a batshit crazy devil cunt who lets americans die while she funnels tens to hundreds of millions in bribes into her clinton slush fund? she sells uranium to russia and then complains about them hacking the election right after its proven that she rigged the primary.

>>737466113
>They can get jobs or buy their own insurance. There is no right to insurance.
life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

the government should go out of its way to keep you alive

the government should go out of its way to keep you free

the government should go out of its way as to not restrict on you undue burden

>>737470304
wrong... It also describes how/why species develop the traits that they do... the people you're trying to save have undesirable traits to pass on to offspring; such as susceptibility to cancer or other genetic deformations, keeping them around increases the likelihood of them passing on those genetic traits.

>>737471295
AMEN.

The saddest part about all this darwinism talk is obamacare actually slowed the growth of healthcare costs to record lows

>>737471651
>the government should go out of its way to keep you alive
Do you actually believe this? I dont think that is what it means. I think they will keep people from killing you with the police and military but they arent in charge of keeping you alive

Hold up
> LIES TO EVERYONE ABOUT EVERYTHING
The thing is
> BLAPHEMES GOD & JESUS TWENTY TIMES
About you Republicans
> COVETS NEIGHBOR'S POSSESSIONS
That is really hypocritical
> STEALS
About you Republicans
> MASTURBATES TO CHILD PORN
Is that you
> GETS HIGH ON STOLEN PILLS
Are just
> HAS DIRTY SEX WITH RANDOM DUDE IN A RESTROOM
Terrible
> MURDERS BABY BECAUSE IT IS INCONVENIENT
Christians

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>>737471516
I was a 13B us army active duty OEF 12-13 in loghman province.
Picture related one of our ammo bunkers.

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Trump is a fucking joke.

>>737467852
another fucking retard who thinks everything i work for should be taken from me and given to them. you and everyone else in the world know what an utter failure obamacare is. all it did was take everyone who already had insurance that they pay for taken from them and replaced with a much worse policy with much higher premiums and much less coverage and when they finally cant afford the now mortgage sized monthly payments and have to drop coverage, they are forced to pay an unconstitutional tax. everyone needs to get off their ass, grow up and take responsibility for their own selves, just like the way the world has worked since the fucking dawn of time.

>>737471822
then what use is government if it does not keep you safe and in well health would use is paying taxes if it does not truly come back to benefit you and your kin as well as the whole of the nation

what is most precious to man as our life and that is one thing that a government of the people by the people and for the people should be obligated to protect at any cost to itself

>>737467940
This right here is why I can't in any good conscience support Trump. Besides the corruption and crony capitalism, he attracts genuinely ignorant insane people like flat earthers, xenophobes and climate change deniers. Not just that but he gives them a voice and puts them in positions of power.

>>737472249
So you wouldnt mind giving the government control over what you can eat or drink or smoke so they can make the best decisions for you to keep you alive? Would you also allow them to enforce a mandated workout routine for you as well to keep you in good health?

>>737471710
So just fuck em right?
Sure hope your grandparents/children/grandchildren don't have any issues with that. And if they do, I hope you have the ability to pay for it. Otherwise you might as well just kill em yourself. Save you the copay

>>737472516
I say yes as long as it abides by the other two natural rights

our government should work tirelessly to keep us safe but if we choose to void that right that is an act of our freedom

>>737472516
I don't think we can really bring about what's best for you or anyone tho. Hell even the basic necessity (water) is currently bad for us. Now of it means there's more regulations to make things cleaner, healthier, and less likely to cause lead poisoning then by all means, regulate that shit up

>>737472858
>if we choose to void that right that is an act of our freedom
We cant allow you to void that right, you must do what we say. You will impact the overall cost of care if we leave you on your own and you get sick, or fat or hurt. You must stay indoors to avoid cancer. No sports because you could be hurt.

>>737473206
also no alcohol, or any controlled substances of any kind.

>>737473206
if you cannot choose to void your natural rights that is both an act against two of your natural rights the right to happiness and the right to liberty

imagine that same scenario you just proposed but instead of giving up healthy living you were told you are not allowed to become a soldier and defend your country because you could possibly die

>>737471886
Cool

>>737473574
A lot of people are told they cant be soldiers.

>>737473702
just because some people are told they cannot be soldiers does not mean a person in perfectly good health that is capable of being a soldiers cannot be

also you seem to be missing the point of the statement

this is simply to say that all three of our natural rights should be held in equal respect to each other and if one must infringe on the other let it be the bearer of those rights to decide how that infringement should be

>>737467573
Because you might get cancer. Or pneumonia. Or zika. Or HIV. Or just get hit by a car. And when that happens you shouldn't lose the social lottery... You know, go into financial ruin.

We're not cavemen, we don't twist our ankle and die because we can't hunt and forage for 2 weeks... At least we don't need to anymore.

Human civilization has the technology, the resources, the capability to treat most illness. And the capacity to get better at it, to make it cheaper to heal people better. If that's the goal we set. If the goal isn't to continue to allow a small set of the incredibly rich to control and horde the resources and technology and intellectual property that allows disease to be treated. To allow them to sell it for the absolute top possible profit, even if that means many people cannot afford it. Figurative vultures control medicine, when you or I are injured they will swoop in for our life savings. And if you've been a good middle class boy, and scrimped and saved, when you get cancer you might get to keep your house.

Oxycontin ravaged the nation. Oxycontin was created simply so that pharmaceutical companies could continue to eke a profit out of an expiring patent. Couldn't just sell people cheap generic pain meds, had to create an opiate monster, and distribute it through a network of lobbyists, for the sole purpose of profit, with no regard for human suffering and death. This is indicative of how medicine works in our country.

Tax the rich along with everyone else, fund public medical research and share the progress, illegalize patents on medicines, provide necessary healthcare for all. You'll be happy when you're old or sick, or when the people you love are old or sick.

>>737467573
for the same reason you are required to pay for a military a police force an emergency medical Force firefighters Structural Engineers and so many other people who do a job that is not always readily needed but when the time comes they are more than valuable when you need them

>>737465497
he's a terrible president, and a shitty human being

>>737473941
If you want others to pay for peoples healthcare and to keep them alive then the people paying are going to want a say in what the people they are paying for are doing

>>737474822
What is the worst policy he has implemented in your opinion?

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>>737474978
Policy is too complicated for him to understand. All he does is lie and piss people off.

>>737469009
Failing to concede your point knowing he's right and you can't defend it

You

>>737474931
this is true but wanting to have say and what's happening and being qualified to have a say in what's happening are two different things

one example of This Is War in a time of War you do not leave the overall strategy of the nation to a Rifleman out on the battlefield that role is left to the generals and the experts of War

so too should our medical system rely on this the standards of the medical system should be judged by the best within that system doctors and surgeons of unmatch knowledge and skill and experts on the socioeconomic status of medicine and how it pertains to everyone

>>737474978
The voter fraud commission is a farce, the travel ban is ill-conceived and counter-productive, most of his other orders are nothing but theater. The policy with the most consequence long-term may be AG session's obsession with reviving the war on drugs - not directly Trump's doing, but he did appoint Sessions and Sessions has been nuts on drugs for decades.

>>737466175
>been very successful otherwise

HE LOST MONEY RUNNING A CASINO


AN OPERATION THAT LITERALLY TAKES MONEY FROM PEOPLE AND GIVES THEM NOTHING BACK.

>>737468969
Because car insurance is for profit. Universal health care would not be. This might be a hard concept to wrap your head around but... The amount of money that is paid into a not for profit Healthcare system is the same amount as the total Healthcare costs. Not 20% or 40% more so executives can get bonuses.

Car insurance companies are gambling on how much you'll cost them, and they are setting the odds in their favor.

>>737475604
And he did it by spending money on a gaudy makeover for the casino.

It's like, people are coming in to buy heroin, they're hooked, all you got to do is sit back and take their money. And Trump decides, let's gold plate the heroin, that would be more fitting with my brand of nouveau rich douchbaggery.

>>737466389
for fucks sake, it's the trumpfags and Trump who turned out to be the whiny pussies. boo hoo the media is so mean to me....give us a fucking break.

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