Why do atheists complain about what Christians believe when they

Use your big boy words faggot

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We atheists don't give a shit about you. We focus on making money and living the good life. If you produce something that I want or offer services that I want I don't give a shit what you believe in or what sins you committed. Economics kills any religion with ease

>>737327254
Because they have a meme religion thinking there proof is nothing making itself

>>737327254
Because at least we can string a legible sentence together

>>737327254
Obvious bait, but w/e.

We don't give a shit about what you believe. Just don't try to shove it down other people's throats.

>>737327254
Huh? You've got it backwards buddy. Theists are the ones making a claim that their God, or a God exists. We Fedoras have simply looked at reality in contrast to the holy texts and the theologies and came to the conclusion that it's probably not real.

An extraordinary claim requires extra ordinary evidence. You guys are making the claim.

>>737328178
This. While these fucks believe in fairy tales I believe in money and hard work and am committed to live the good live #omad #mgtow

>>737327254
Because all atheists are edgelords. Usually fat and/or ugly.

>>737328178
>>737327869
>>737328119
Its always "we" with atheists, shut up faggots, you're not a gang.

absence of proof = absence of belief
which is literally what atheism is

>>737328792
Then stop lumping atheists together.

>>737328935
I'll do what I want you fucking muppet

>>737329134
Then I'll keep saying we, and you can't stop me.

>>737329283
>we, the cool kids
Keep tipping that fedora bro

We don't give a fuck what you, personally, believe. You can do, whatever the fuck you want in your own home. Go to church, believe what you want.

Where we ACTUALLY draw the line, even though you moronic fucks don't see it, is we don't want YOUR bullshit imaginary friends rules deciding our fucking _laws_ you moronic sack of shit.

Believe whatever fairy tail nonsense you want, but if you try to enforce that bullshit as law on others, you are garbage that deserves to be fucking shot.

>>737329626
>typical edgy atheist tough talk

>>737329626
>Where we ACTUALLY draw the line
And what are you going to do? Kek

>>737327254
I'm not certain of anything anymore. Everything is fake news. I just want to work, eat, and fuck.

>>737329900
File a lawsuit. Win.

I don't; I merely scoff. I can't speak for whatever atheists you're talking about as their reasons are their own.

>>737327254
>being (age field) years old
>not yet being agnostic
>ytho

>>737329900
vote your dumb asses out of office. Sadly, we can't give you fucks what you deserve.

>>737330005
Kek good luck with that.
Try not to spill mountain dew on your dads suit.

>>737330153
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2017-06-20/federal-judge-orders-city-to-remove-cross-from-public-park
#winning

>>737330104
>being this edgy
You'll never change anything

>>737330153

Thanks, I'll cover the dry cleaning anyway with my earnings.

>>737330220
>#
Kys.
Removing a cross from a park? Kek if you went outside you could of done it with a screwdriver

>>737327254
Lol 2017 and being Christian. Troglodytes

>>737330256

Won't need to. Deists usually know their place nowadays. Change already happened.

Same reason as always, because somebody somewhere tried converting that person and now wants to retaliate by complaining about the religion

In their defense though, fags who try to convert you can be some of the most annoyingly persistent kill-you-with-kindness dicks you'll ever meet, especially the christian ones

>>737327254
>Why do atheists complain about what Christians believe

WTF is wrong with you? No one gives a fuck about any fairy tale "Christians" believe.

"Christians" OTOH are frantic about trying to sign people up for their spiritual MLM scheme. You so insecure that you need to recruit more believers? Think for yourself.

>>737330427
if you did it right there'd be lighter fluid involved

>>737330303
GBP are "earnings" now?

>>737327254
mostly because what we believe in has actual working proof whilst most religions only have a book.

>>737330475
>Troglodytes
kek
Grecian insults ftw

>>737330427
>kys
Why? We're winning.
>Kek if you went outside you could of done it with a screwdriver
Why go through the effort when you can have the Christians do it for you and drink their delicious tears of impotent rage?

>>737330481
Kek, so you're pretty much sjws?

>>737330564
state said proof plox

>>737327254
Coz they are neckbeard virgins who have nothing better to do with their time

>>737330536

Anything that involves me taking from those who aren't deserving, yes.

Om nom nom, delicious bait...

Short answer: religious people seem intent on getting us to live under their rules.

>>737330608
Winning what?

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>>737327254

>>737330769
Western civilization.

>>737330663

In 2006 maybe. You might remember Chanology?

You need to catch up with the times something fierce.

>>737330880
Kek.
Yeah? And how so?

>>737330905
tell ppl to catch up, whilst saying "something fierce"
>nicely done anon

>>737330691
proof of what? the religious books or science? if science i will need a specific theory or principle, science in general is a rather large field.

I don't mind the philosophy behind certain religions (love thy neighbour, hate the sin not the sinner).

But when you try to cringefully shove it into reality with no evidence, through like a million mental gymnastics...yeah I'm just gonna laugh.

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>>737331044
how about this instead

>>737330905
Your still more irrelevant than any religion, m8.

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>>737330950
oh we're winning.

>>737330950
Separation of church and state and the gradual secularization of the population. Religion is on the decline in the U.S. and Europe and has been for a long time.

>>737331233
feelsgoodman.illuminati

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>>737331118
I will take this as proof that you have no idea what you are talking about considering you are resorting to juvenile attempts at humour. if you cant even muster up enough brain power to construct a coherent response then maybe you should get off a website with more than 4 colours.

>>737331233
This b8? What a load of incoherent shit. How does that mean YOU are winning in any way? How does thag improve your life? You're not winning shit.

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>>737328423
you can fuck right off with your hashtags you stupendous newfag

>>737331434
*that not thag

>>737331434
>How does thag improve your life?
Better separation of church and state and fewer religious people roaming about means I don't have to deal with quite so much bullshit.

>>737331355
excuse me, who the fuck are you? don't speak to me that way, I'm a cop.

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>>737327254
>>737327841
>>737327869
>>737327943
>>737328119
>>737328178

CHRISTIAN = BESTIAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTckgLpSvs

>>737331604
On a day to day basis you have to "deal" with "bullshit" from religious people? I don't think so.

>>737331728
>I don't think so.
Then you think wrong.

>>737331671
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>>737331629
"cop" a term for police mostly used in america. im going to assume you are in america which means you have absolutely no power over me, even if by some longshot you were, in which case i would need proof before believing you. lets face it, you aren't really anything special and its quite likely that you are using this lie to try and intimidate me out of proving that you are an idiot.

>>737331784
Righto, give me an example then? You've had enough time to at least make up one.

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not finding evidence of something is not the same as proving something does not exist.

I think its because the church and the state are two things that should always stay separate, but in America, at least, they are very, very, very connected

>>737328345
>>An extraordinary claim requires extra ordinary evidence

>>Nothing exploded and created everything...
Jus sayin

>>737331886
Money says "In God We Trust"
People say "God bless you"
Until recently, buying alcohol where I live on Sunday was illegal.

>>737332163
>Money says "In God We Trust"
Shouldn't affect you.
>People say "God bless you"
Shouldn't affect you.
>Until recently, buying alcohol where I live on Sunday was illegal.
Yeah that's pretty shitty tbh.

>>737332091
>big omnipotent, omniscient super complex and detailed being just appeared out of nowhere.

Also jus sayin

>>737332390
>Shouldn't affect you.
Does.
>Shouldn't affect you.
Does.

That's before getting into larger legal issues and more interpersonal issues.

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>>737331885
influence, yea we got it bruh. eat shit and donuts

Cherry Blossom – a CIA's framework, basically a remotely controllable firmware-based implant, used for monitoring the Internet activity of the targeted systems by exploiting vulnerabilities in Wi-Fi devices.
Pandemic – a CIA's project that allowed the agency to turn Windows file servers into covert attack machines that can silently infect other computers of interest inside a targeted network.
Athena – A CIA's spyware framework that has been designed to take full control over the infected Windows PCs remotely, and works against every version of Microsoft's Windows operating systems, from Windows XP to Windows 10.
AfterMidnight and Assassin – Two apparent CIA malware frameworks for the Microsoft Windows platform that has been designed to monitor and report back actions on the infected remote host computer and execute malicious actions.
Archimedes – A man-in-the-middle attack tool allegedly developed by the agency to target computers inside a Local Area Network (LAN).
Scribbles – Software supposedly designed to embed 'web beacons' into confidential documents, allowing the CIA to track insiders and whistleblowers.
Grasshopper – A framework that allowed the CIA to easily create custom malware for breaking into Microsoft's Windows and bypassing antivirus protection.
Marble – Disclosed the source code of a secret anti-forensic framework used by the agency to hide the actual source of its malware.
Dark Matter – Hacking exploits the CIA designed to target iPhones and Macs.
Weeping Angel – Spying tool used by the spy agency to infiltrate smart TV's, transforming them into covert microphones.

pic related its you

>>737330564
If the universe started as nothing and the laws of nature caused in to explode to create everything then where did those laws come from? Those laws would have to supersede time space and matter since time space and matter were all created at the Big Bang. If the laws of nature and science supercede the Big Bang then where did those laws come from and who made those? You have to have the law of physics the law of thermodynamics, gravity and all these other laws that make the universe possible. Who is the lawgiver?

>>737332480
>does
Why? Who the fuck reads money? And besides as if you get triggered by the mention of God, that's weak as piss. You sound like an sjw.

Legal issues? Interpersonal issues? Explain.

>>737332469
>always exsisted
Jus sayin

>>737332792
why does he care about humanity?

>>737332681
>Why?
Because it says "In God WE Trust." I do not trust in a god, therefore apparently I'm not supposed to be a part of this country.
>You sound like an sjw
Except I'm not actually trying to stop people from saying whatever the fuck they want to say. I just enjoy the fact that fewer and fewer people are saying this shit.
>Legal issues?
Schools that teach creationism to children. Politicians who let their religious beliefs influence the law.
>Interpersonal issues?
Atheists are the least trusted group in the U.S. As an example, religious parents will disown atheist children.

>>737332952
He created it

>>737332792
>doesn't believe the universe came from nothing.
>believes a giant sky fairy came from nothing.

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>>737332640
TOPKEK, do you really think that you can, in any way, intimidate anyone. honestly i would like to see you try. lets face it, if i want to avoid any of these i just turn off my internet and wipe my system, which is no hinderance at all. anyway you still don't have access to any of these programs, even if they do exist. your use of threats instead of logic are showing the neanderthal that you are. be careful.

>>737333119
Did a pretty shitty job fam. Deformities and all.

>>737333149
If you don't believe the Universe came from nothing then where did everything come?

>>737333119
he also created every other animal on the planet, why are we more valuable? why does he not do anything about the suffering of people in 3rd world countries?

>>737333237
It didn't start out that way man caused his own demise

>>737333077
>Because it says "In God WE Trust." I do not trust in a god, therefore apparently I'm not supposed to be a part of this country.
Dramatic like a woman.
>schools that teach creationism
So fucking what? How will that affect their day to day life?
>Politicians who let their religious beliefs influence the law
Example, plz.
>Atheists are the least trusted group in the U.S. As an example, religious parents will disown atheist children.
I doubt that happens nowadays, but maybe its a good thing if there an edgelord.

>>737333320
I don't know. But just because I don't know doesn't mean I'm about to do a giant leap and say it was God.

Also I was just implying that if the universe needed a creator, then so does God. It's a cop out to imply otherwise.

>>737332659
Or maybe these forces act like they do because these rules were made by their limitations. it is, once again, logic. if an atom, tries to pass through another atom cant, why? because two atoms cannot occupy the same space.
although i do see your point, its really very blurry how things acted at that time, it was billions of years ago and the energy levels at the time were so high that no equipment could ever hope to analyse it.

>>737333332
Suffering is brought on by the Fall From Grace

>>737333618
why did god let that happen?

>>737333581
But the laws need to come from somewhere
Laws require intelligence and Common Sense

>>737333532
It kind of was actually. It's part of the evolution of a species being affected by its environment.

Even the purest and sex clean couples in faith have deformed children.

>>737329900
ram a car into ten commandments statues, apparently

>>737333652
I honestly do not know the answer to that question

>>737333540
>I have no response, so I'll call you a woman
>How will that affect their day to day life?
It causes them to believe bullshit, which can very much affect their future as well as everyone else's.
>Example, plz.
Politicians who don't believe in climate change for religious reasons will vote against environmental regulations.
>I doubt that happens nowaday
Fun fact: Christian parents have been documented (in the 2000s) sending their children to camps to be physically and psychologically tortured.
>maybe its a good thing if there an edgelord.
ayy lmao

>>737333740
That'll show em
Wreck your car, possible whiplash.

>>737333726
but they don't, some laws are just there. they are the limitations of the object, why would you need intelligence and common sense for limitations. these arent laws, they are the basic behaviours of forces defined by its limitations and the limitations of the forces affecting it.

>>737333997
So then what you're saying is these laws supercede time-space near matter. Where did these laws come from? Why is it that two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time?

>>737333908
No response to what? You getting triggered by the word God? Man up ffs.
>It causes them to believe bullshit, which can very much affect their future as well as everyone else's.
Wrong. Won't affect shit.
>Politicians who don't believe in climate change for religious reasons will vote against environmental regulations
Who cares, won't affect you, and I know you're too edgy to care about "future generations" so don't give me that shit.
>Christian parents have been documented (in the 2000s) sending their children to camps to be physically and psychologically tortured.
Sauce? And I'm not defending that behavior anyway.
>ayy lmao
Ayy lmao

>>737333726
The laws of science, aren't exactly written in stone, they're just the best depiction of the reality we live in.

>>737334410
So then tell me which one of these laws is fluid enough to where it can be changed to fit the situation

>>737334300
once again, these laws do not supercede "space-time" they came in to existence at the same time as the forces or particles. two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time because then they would be a single object.

>>737334320
>Man up ffs.
I will, by continuing to support the movement to get that shit off money.
>Wrong. Won't affect shit.
Except for the slight fact that modern medicine and agriculture are dependent on evolution.
>Who cares, won't affect you
The environment doesn't affect me?
>Sauce?
I recommend watching Kidnapped for Christ. Funnily enough, it was made by a Christian.
>And I'm not defending that behavior anyway.
You kinda are.
>Ayy lmao
ayy lmao

>>737334484
Not in sense that their fluid, but that science is still updating itself constantly with new information can adapt said scientific principles.

>>737334564
And how did the universe get started if the laws that govern the universe did not preceed it? How did the big bang happen without laws to cause it to happen?

>>737334670
this is true, the good thing about science is its flexible to new facts and information.
religion takes a more..... sticks and stones approach...

>>737334670
But the laws do not change

>>737332091
The big bang theory has nothing to do with atheism

>>737334719
well there are several ways it could have happened, a particle from another universe or plane of existence could have reached ground state and started a chain reaction long after that universe had ended, much like vacuum decay. it could have been a black hole reaching critical mass, maybe even something simple like another universe shrank into a singularity and then expanded again.
the universe is wondrously complex and fascinating and the idea of a creator is not only dull, but also insulting to the complexity of reality.

>>737334914
It sure does. If you don't believe in a God that created everything then you have to believe that everything created itself.

>>737335089
>have to

Wrong try again

>>737334829
They could change given a scientific breakthrough. Dark energy seems to be a similar development.

>>737335089
False.

>>737335087
Say there's other universes is to sneak outside of science. And that is not something that can be tested or proven. The problem with your vertical scenario is where did and particle come from?

I can also say that the idea that everything came from nothing is called in to say that some type of outside force like God didn't make it happen is a little insulting as well to the complexity of things. To think that this complexity just happened by chance is to think outside of the Realms of mathematical possibilities. Complexity cannot arise from things that are less complex. In order to add complexity in must generate from intelligence

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>>737334643
>I will, by continuing to support the movement to get that shit off money.
K bruh
>Except for the slight fact that modern medicine and agriculture are dependent on evolution.
K bruh
>The environment doesn't affect me?
K bruh
>I recommend watching Kidnapped for Christ. Funnily enough, it was made by a Christian.
No thanx doesn't sound funny or sexy
>You kinda are.
K bruh
>ayy lmao
Ayy lmao

>inb4 K bruh is not a legitimate response

>>737327254
>Not having proof something doesn't exist means it's real
I guess dragons, unicorns and goblins exist too since we can't prove their nonexistence

>>737335087
And just as a side note the several ways that it COULD have happened is not something that we can test or demonstrate or observe therefore they fall outside of science

>>737335385
How can you imply intelligence when the universe is so completely chaotic and disorderly? It shreds itself to pieces at random daily.

>>737335169
Both are very much the only 2 options

>>737335256
Yes but it's a changing any laws of science? Isn't causing gravity to work backwards? Is it changing the law of thermodynamics?

>>737335602
Please demonstrate that not believing in a god that created everything necessarily means you believe that everything created itself.

I'll wait.

>>737335587
Just look at our solar system and how organized it is.

>>737335385
the thing about science is it accounts for everything, and if it doesn't, then it can be adapted to account for it. whilst these theories seem farfetched it doesn't mean they are inherently wrong. we cant really ever know what really happened. also complexity CAN arise from less complex things, just look at water, it is not a complex structure, but when cooled it can create snowflakes, an amazingly intricate and detailed structure that is so complex that the chances of 2 snowflakes being identical is almost non-existent. god is a paradox that can not possibly exist.

>>737335736
It's a fact that we are here ear. How we got here is the question. Did God create the universe or did the universe create itself? I don't know of any other options at this point as to how the universe started

>>737335793
>our solar system is organized
ummm.....

>>737335880
You assume that the universe was created. One need not make that assumption.

>>737335385
>Complexity cannot arise from things that are less complex.

That's completely false, evolution has demonstrated that complex things have evolved from lesser complexities all the way down to simplicity. This can also apply to the cosmos, as asteroids are theorized to have create planets. Simple things creating a complexity.

Complexities are made up of individual simplicities.

>>737335535
yes i understand that, but science is ever expanding and theories are the basis of discovery.

>>737327254
Because there are retards in both sides.
It obviously doesn't make sense to criticize in which god what one believes, since we can't prove either it existence or absence.
There are both Christians and Atheists that doesn't know what scientific evidence means and goes on blabbing shit they heard somewhere else and doesn't really understand.

>>737335851
What you're doing here is trying to be strong. It is not the water that goes from a less complex structure to a more complex structure all on its own it's the laws that govern how crystals form that create wondrous diverse patterns of the crystals than self

>>737335793
our solar system reached its current state of relative organisation because everything that could have happened already has, its like looking at a battlefield a hundred years after the war has ended,

>>737335793
Please do tell how our universe is organised.

>>737335938
Then explain how it got here>>737335938

>>737332091
We already KNOW nothing exploded. There is plenty of evidence showing that it did. The questions are the whys and hows. Probably some quantum BS.

>>737336124
I can't. Not having an explanation is no excuse for making one up.

>>737327254
We have considerable evidence. It's called "science". I don't know if you've noticed, but it tends to beat prehistoric fables in most fights over accuracy. God might be out there, but the literal interpretation of the Bible makes no sense whatsoever.

>>737335969
There are no proofs of evolution. It's kind of circular reasoning to assume Evolution as proof that complexity arises from less complex when you haven't proved that Evolution happened

>>737336061
i cant understand what you have written here. your grammar isnt great. im guessing your saying that it isn't complexity because the laws that govern it make it so, that is still complexity arising from simplicity.

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>>737335736
>>737335938
>>737336173

This

>>737335973
But once again the laws of science do not change.
That begs the question where did the laws come from?

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>>737327869
apparently, atheists give a fuck more than anyone.

>>737336287
but they do. for instance they have recently discovered a new type of matter called time crystals that suspend the laws of thermodynamics.

>>737336215
How exactly haven't we proved it?

>>737336287
Science does not assume that things came from 'the magic man' when there is no explanation at hand. That just means that further research and knowledge is required.

>>737336155
I'm sorry did you say that we KNOW nothing exploded but turned into everything?
HAHA

>>737336215
Study biology literally at all. The evidence is overwhelming. Just because you can't figure it out in the 4 minutes it takes a priest to explain why gays are the devil doesn't mean there's "no proof".

>>737336287
>where did the laws come from
Not from a bearded man that's for sure
Science is still playing catch up with the universe, but sooner or later humans will find the answer

>>737336194
Science is what we can observe test and repeat and since the Big Bang Theory is a one-off event it falls outside of the explanation of science

>>737336235
I'm sorry I'm using the text to talk

>>737336445
There is 0 proof for evolution. If you think you have proof please post

>>737328423
if hard work and money is what you believe in ,then i feel sorry for your shallow life. I am not telling you to believe in god ,but maybe you should find something not so mundane

>>737336640
kek, that's fine.

>>737336509
If the evidence is overwhelming post it
it shouldn't be hard to do

>>737336727
>The fossil record
>Carbon dating of fossils
>Natural selection
>Behaviour of genes

You can literally look up all of this yourself.

>>737336541
You how do you know with 100% certainty that they did not come from a bearded man?

>>737336974
How do you know with 100% they did?

>>737336569
I'm not saying we have conclusive evidence of the Big Bang, but neither do we have conclusive evidence that gravity works. I'm saying the evidence we DO have is much more compelling than the bedtime story that your mom swears is legit because it happens to be written down. Science is more complex than than hypothesis>experiment>result. Einstein made predictions based on evidence that for decades we couldn't test or observe, but we're starting to gather evidence that, turns out, agrees with the man's hypotheses.

>>737336960
The fossil record is only dead things in the ground
They didn't record anything
Carbon dating as much as you would like to say is used to date fossils is flawed and even if it wasn't flawed how can you carbon date something that is millions of years old when the half life of carbon is about 5200 years

>>737337042
I dont

>>737336891
It's already published you dense cunt. I'm not gonna spend 20 hours reducing it to a flowchart that fits on a yotsuba powered image board. Not when you have google.

>>737337104
Considering humans have come closer to disproving God than proving him
I'd say he doesn't exist

>>737337077
>>737336960
I should have said that half life of carbon 14

>>737337058
No evidence of gravity. No evidence of big bang.

Please go back to school.

>>737337190
You lose
Kek

>>737337191
How so?

>>737337191
>come closer to disproving *but not disproving it*
Seemsgoodman

>>737337233
>throw apple into air
>it falls
That's gravity

I am oculist. Both christians and atheists are wrong in their own way.

>>737331728
Fuck yes I do. Are you retarded?

>>737337318
>>737337323
Literally everything humans have researched is explained by science
DNA, disease, evolution, space, time
What proof does anyone have that God created anything?
Last I checked, God didn't create cars or planes
He didn't invent phones or the lightbulb
All of those were created by humans who used science

>>737337233
Forgive my clearly limited use of evidence in place of "observation", I'm dumbing it down for the philestines.

>>737337262
Fine then. Why do fossil records show clear physiological progression and space and time continuity? Why are the most important genes for eukaryotic cell function so highly conserved? Fuck, we've even observed this shit small-scale. Salamanders in California, moths in London. Did the devil put all that shit there to tempt us? I think not.

>>737333800
Hahahahahahaha wow....was good

>>737336433
I can't see how that have changed any laws.
The idea here is that the laws of nature that govern our universe are not subject to changes from within the universe and therefore function outside of the universe and have function before the universe came into existence. These outside forces control everything that happens inside the universe. my contention is them outside laws are actually God the lawgiver

>>737337714
>Fine then. Why do fossil records show clear physiological progression and space and time continuity

They don't end of story. All you have are bunch of bones in the dirt you can arrange it anyway you want but that doesn't prove anything

>>737337262
There's a nerve that goes from the brain to the larynx called the recurrent laryngeal nerve. We see it in most all animal life. In fish, it's a short straight line, but it goes under the corotted artery. It does the same thing in giraffes... going from the brain, down under the heart, back up to the larynx. Does that sound like specific engineering, or gradual changes?

>>737337899
the laws of thermodynamics are supposed to be absolute, if something inside our universe can suspend them then it means they are not absolute, therefore malleable, therefore clearly within our universe.

>>737338108
You are willfully ignorant. Can't fix that.

>>737338171
It sounds like a good design that was modified to suit the individual species that could have been created that way just as simply for even more simply than you say evolved

What i know is that parts of the bible are obviously bullshit (i.e. noah and the ark/great flood) therefore none of it should be believed.

>>737338363
Oh my god it's like arguing with the idiot who thinks Windows Vista was a great OS.

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>>737327254
If God is eternal, what's saying the universe isn't? Which makes more sense, someone creating everything knowable or it already being there

>>737338108
Nice guesswork. But you haven't disproven a thing. Your just assuming your guesses are real and therefore invalidate centuries of scientific discovery.

>>737337077
Permineralization is a process of fossilization that occurs when an organism is buried. The empty spaces within an organism (spaces filled with liquid or gas during life) become filled with mineral-rich groundwater. Minerals precipitate from the groundwater, occupying the empty spaces. It's not carbon

>>737338403
I don't see how you can discount the flood of Noah. There's evidence all around the globe of floods. Sedimentary rock laid in layers all over the Earth and be described as a worldwide flood. Over 200 flood Legends. Vast areas of fossils that had to have been buried quickly in order to fossilize because the soft tissue that can still be seen in the rock search has fish scales and jellyfish

>>737338519
I could say the same thing

>>737338955
And you haven't proven a thing

>>737339037
All living things have c14 that can be measured up to about 5200 years or so

>>737339182
The "flood legends!" Thing is old as hell and highly discredited.

>>737339182
That's called the reformation of the earth, not due to a flood. Every piece of earth was underwater at some point but time and many believe that noahs flood was just the meditrerranean sea filling up. Not a global flooding. There isn't enough water

>>737339182
A flood may have happened but it had nothing to do with God or Noah
What about all the horrific natural disasters that have occurred since then?
We're they by God too? Why weren't they added to the bible?

>>737339453
There's more than enough water to cover the Earth if you lived up the ocean basins and push down the mountains a little bit and the Earth would be covered with more than 50 ft of water

Oh and I'm sorry but these Legends to come from somewhere and there's always some truth in Legend

>>737339485
You sound so sure that it wasn't from God.

>>737337780
Anotheere anon picking up here.
God let that happen because he wanted to create creatures that can share his creation and love him.
We can't love him without free will, and can't have free will without sin.
That's why he gave us a way to save us from sin--Jesus.

>>737330427
...could of done it...

Must of, should of, would of.

Why are people so stupid? Honestly, it's not that hard.

>>737339485
Are you comparing natural disasters to a literal worldwide flood? It destroyed all fucking human life on the planet. That's why it's in the bible.

>>737339890
This.
Tbh though most of the people on 4chan are either in elementary school or just retarded.

>>737339960
>it destroyed all human life on the planet
>we're still here
nigga what?

>>737340156
Read the story brah

>>737340156
Do you not know the story of noah?
Obviously i was excluding him and his family.

>>737339363
Yes but fossils aren't carbon, they are rock that has taken the form

So we are all the result of incest?

>>737339577
Proof?

>>737340331
Exactly and that's why fossils cannot be carbon-dated therefore you don't know how old they are. They could be millions of years old but they could be thousands of years old. It's a proven fact that fossilisation under the right conditions can happen quickly over a matter of 100 years or less

Who is the devil?
What is said devil's agenda?

>>737340401
Yep. That's how reproduction works.
Even from an evolutionary standpoint that would pretty much be true.

>>737340452

http://www.bradalles.com/is-there-enough-water-to-flood-the-earth/

>>737340470
Carbon dating is for organic life. Dating fossils is found by how far under the ground they are

>>737340613
>Christian blog site
Let's see some actual science

>>737340623
So for the last two thousand or so years people have been buried 6 feet deep does that mean that everybody is of the same age?
Aaaaand carbon dating can work on dead things too

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>>737329134
>believer calling someone else a "fucking muppet"

>:-)

>>737340237
>>737340242
So Noah partook in incest and ended up populating the Earth which now has 7 billion humans?
#legit

>>737340490
That's a long story.
Basically he's a fallen angel of sorts that wants to steer humanity away from god.
I'm not an expert on thay shit so look it up if you want more.

>>737340723
Do the math

>>737340759
Fossils take 10k years to form

>>737340839
He should just apologise. Prove god wrong.

>>737327254
You all are fucking idiots. A lack of belief in a superstition is the standard. Therefore the burden of proof lies with the 'believer' aka retard.

>>737340723
I'm not the anon but your argument is shitty. It's not called a miracle because it's possible, now is it?
It's an act of God. Not a natural phenomenon.

>>737340811
the real miracle there is that a 900 year old man could not only get and maintain an erection, but also was healthy enough for voracious daughter-fucking

>>737329954
>fuck
>browse /b/
pick one

I'm against the idea that since you can't definitively prove something yet, such as the origin of the universe, a god must have been responsible for it. Faith is accepting something to be true without evidence, which to any rational being should sound completely illogical

>>737340893
https://ncse.com/library-resource/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth

>>737340937
http://careyjaneclark.com/fast-fossil-form/

>>737340811
Fibonacci numbers faggot.
Again, this would still be the case from an evolutionary view. Obviously not the exact same, but the same concept.

>>737341046
>your argument is shit
>miracles happen
Oh lawl. Back to square one. That's a ditch effort to something you hold so tight to be true. Miracles =/= proof

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>>737341250
You're objectively wrong. That's not how evolution works at all.

>>737341250
Either repopulated the Earth with 7 billion people or he didn't
If he didn't then none of that shit happened or he never existed

>>737341200
http://www.curiousmeerkat.co.uk/questions/how-long-fossilisation-take/
Fossils are defined as the remains or traces of organisms that died more than 10,000 years ago, therefore, by definition the minimum time it takes to make a fossil is 10,000 years.

>>737341089
“The LORD then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation.”
Genesis 7:1
Pretty sure had had daughters and sons, but idk your argument is dumb anyways.

>>737341506
So if a common house cat has been found fossilized it is not truly a fossil?
It seems that the definition of fossil works hard to exclude anything younger than ten thousand years so as to not look stupid saying that fossilisation can occur in less than 10000 years

>>737327254
there is no proof of what atheists believe, cuz there isnt a thing, that atheists believe.
Im still w8ing for u to stop trying to switch the burden of proof and own up to your delusions

>>737341109
Except you can't prove that God doesn't exist either, faggot.

>>737341638
Cats have been around for thousands of years. They had them all over the place in Egypt mythology and that was over 5k years ago

>>737341423
I just said he did. Do you not understand the concept of population growing exponentially?

>>737341638
It's the same way a vase works
Just because it's old and rusty, doesn't mean it's an antique

>>737341693
I also can't prove that an invisible dragon doesn't live in my garage can I?

>>737341820
>I just said he did
Oh I'm sorry, where you there?

>>737341570
Noah certainly had sons. He cursed Ham for seeing him naked

>>737341773
It's still not 10000 years though therefore not a fossil technically if you go by that definition even though it is 100% permineralized

>>737341820
>Do you not understand the concept of population growing exponentially?
Literally everyone would be related to one another
The first offspring to come from his children would be literally retarded from their parents being related blood
That's what inbreeding is

Most normies under 40 don't believe in God and leave it at that. Don't go to church, don't pray, don't think it or talk about it. You just spend too much time on the internet where people call themselves atheists and won't shut the fuck up about it.

>>737341890
I'm sorry, were you there when the planet came into existence?
What the fuck is your point? Are you saying i have to be there for it to be true?

>>737341924
Thanks. My biblical knowledge isn't amazing.

>>737342289
>I said he did
Unless you were there, you have absolutely no way of knowing that
I say dragons exist, does that mean they do?

>>737342121
permineralized =/= a fossil as a fossil is minerals and nonorganic. Like how a mummy wouldn't be a fossil

Arguing over the Bible is pointless, since a lot of it was destroyed in 397 in Carthage. We only have an unknown percentage of the original writings now.

>>737342222
>Normies don't conform
Well that sure is a contradiction

>>737342162
What's your point?
Over the long term there were mutations and shit to make variations in people.

>>737342577
>Over the long term there were mutations and shit to make variations in people.
Wait... that sounds scientific
Are you sure God didn't just poof humans back into existence?
He did it once, he could surely do it again

>>73734242
>implying that I think it's true just because i said so
If you want to make an argument, I'll talk to you. But you're basically just baiting right now.

>>737342222
Quads of truth

>>737327254
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

>>737342872
I Completely misread your original comment, sorry.
But now that you're just baiting i don't even care enough to respond.

>>737341853
No you can't. you're believing it based off of faith and logic. Kinda like religion.

>>737342426
But they're still examples of rapid fossilisation

>>737343192
>But now that you're just baiting i don't even care enough to respond.
That's a win for me in my book

>>737343420
No, it has to be under ground to be fossilized. The transfer of organic life into rock. This process can't be forced with modern science

>>737343406
First off, read up on Russel's teapot real quick. Second, how is it logical to believe in something that you have zero proof of?

>>737342576
How many people do you know who give a fuck about any of this? Real world people, not your online friends.

>>737343739
https://open.abc.net.au/explore/64371