You. We. We exist in this, what we know as the universe, we

Dude, word.
I was going through my 600 pages of medical records stating that I am crazy. I'm not. Psychedelics take one beyond the hospital/jail pigeon hole.

Life is good.

>>737296118

Who's to define crazy.

Just because we've made educations, stating things in some books and whatnot, does not really make them able to define you as a being.

Sure, in their fine system they can. A fictional system we've made in order to try to understand what's going on, which we really can't either. We're beyond that, words or humans cannot define such things purely.

Hello my shamanic brothers

>>737296392

Hello fellow being.

Hope you're well.

>>737296371
I like to think of existence as a radix/bin sort of the universe, with each soul being one of the sort orders being done. Thanks for the assurance.

>>737295648
Are you God, OP?

>>737296667
>Are you God, OP?
As much as you are.

hey i really needed this right now, thanks OP

>>737296667

I'm no higher power. I'm afraid not.

I believe, after my experiences, that we can reach a god-like state(god with lower-case "g") - In a state where "communication" and possibly other senses being present in-between two beings.

There is a new form of LSD that had been given to Mexico. This cures mental ailments and brings trust and beauty to anyone even exposed to the outside of the bottle it is contained in. It is code named "love". 1 million doses.

The triple festival around Burning Man and the Oregon Eclipse is for us in the north who feel an awakening. There is another festival planed in Pheonix for the others.

I know some of this by experience, and some from a message that did not come from my thoughts.
Want to know more?

>>737296864
Yes, moar.

>>737296864

No such thing as a new form of LSD-25, LSD is LSD.

Any chemical name?

>>737296864
curious i am. Lord knows i'd love to be rid of my mental ailments

>>737296937
Before you say that, look up ALD-52. This is an analog of LSD-25 that does not have the anxiety that standard LSD-25 has.

We have been lied to about psychoactivity of LSD analogs. Think about all the variants on Phenethylamines that Dr Shulgin invented.

>>737297175

I'm aware of the LSD analogues. LSD is still LSD.

>anxiety that standard LSD-25 has

Never had anxiety on LSD, even though I have tripped well over 200 times now I think.

>>737296923
I tried a prototype to the new form. The first hour left a great rush of expectations (2 hits). But then the drug stopped being felt - conciously. I then took 6 hits, and then more and more until I ingested 42 hits. The safety margin is much better than standard LSD, where anything over 2 hits gives hallucinations.

Others on lower doses were laying down, but not me.


Afterwards I could see things sharper, and my mind was clearer, smarter. It worked on my unconcious mind for a couple of weeks.

It is incompatible with regular LSD.

>>737297175
Total retard.

They dont make ALD-52, its all myth, secondly every single major seratonin based psychedelic can cause anxiety. Idiot.

in b4 "you cant have a bad trip on ALD-52" and waiting for any evidence or source or any evidence whatsoever.

>>737295648

dude whoa man really makes you think
congrats on babbys first examination of existentialism

Without observers reality doesn't exist. If there was a parallel universe and no life ever evolved and nothing ever observed it then time would be irrelevant there and it wouldn't exist on any level other than as lost information. Our conscious existence is a fundamental requirement for the cosmos to function.

>>737297453
"prototype of a new form"

moron.

Its called research chemical bath salts, not LSD variants that were ALL discussed in the chemist original work, all the way from LSD-1 to 52 or whatever

>>737297453

Sounds like a regular LSD trip to me.

A single hit of LSD can cause you to fade far far far away as well under the right set and setting. To the point where you can't see anything else than your vision is melting.

When I did LSD 1 time per 2 weeks, I could easily feel a change long time after.

>>737295648

>Babby's first LSD trip
>Babby's first "Everything is subjective hurr durr"
>brb reading Tony Robbins

kys

>>737297544
If you have something better to contribute go right ahead
In my experience responses like these are just a defense mechanism when people feel stupid because they can't understand something. But feel free to prove me wrong.

>>737297638

I understand perfectly what you are trying to explain. It's just that it's not that profound or interesting and most people come to a similar conclusion at some point in their lives.

>>737297453
The Oregon Eclipse event is happening in a 55000 acre ranch right in the middle of the Ochoco National Forest. Although tickets are not being sold, the venue is designed to take as many people as Woodstock, with overflow in the forest itself.

There is a 4 day window between the Oregon Eclipse and Burning Man, and many will caravan to the Burning Man playa warly, but cannot be admitted. However a special gathering of individuals is taking place 1 mile north of Black Rock City's trash fence, on public BLM land. This should handle the overflow.

You're ignoring how complex things are. There is no complex part, only the appearance of a part from complex interaction of simple parts. Everything is fundamentally binary, which shows itself in many forms as a foundation of logic itself. Day and night, life and death, yin and yang, self and other, everything and nothing. The truth is it is one, but one can act as though it doesn't recognize itself and so you get duality, black and white. Both are eachother in truth, black is white, white is black. But to either the other is always opposite. This forms the base. From this you can represent more complex things and eventually result in language and concepts

>>737297632

Never heard of any of those names before. In fact I've never read any book fully, might have in school about a lost girl in some woods.

This is pure observation I'm speaking from, which I hope might help other people's observings.

>>737295648
Shut the fuck up, Kombucha. Go wash your dreads

>>737297499
Ald-52 is a real chemical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALD-52


Here is teh map showing Ochoco National forest and the big ranch in the middle.
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3875573,-120.3163201,10z

If this is Bullshit, then so is OP's belief.

>>737297768

I'm not ignoring how complex things are, there's just no reason for me to talk about them when we don't understand it either way. We most likely never will due to the fact that it's beyond of what we're capable of knowing.

>>737297729
I'm not op and I remain unconvinced that you have anything interesting to contribute.

>>737295648
>The structure is perfect, how can nature be flawed?
Nature is essentially randomness amped up to 100
Roll the dice often enough and a stable structure will emerge
That does not make that structure perfect in any way, it just makes it functional

>>737297795

Yeah no, you're not fooling anybody here. If believing that "Reality is subjective" is the right way to go, then why is it that countries where religions like Hinduism is popular are in a shit state right now compared to the West?

>>737297968

This is why I tried to explain the "difference" between the smaller picture and the bigger.

To you, yes, it might be random. But due to the nature's structure, it's like what it is.

This discussion is not just about us as "minds", if you catch my drift. It's about the bigger picture of everything, not just this "closed world" most of us lives in.

>>737297896

Everything has already been thought out by a billion other people, nothing is unique or truly insightful. Preaching philosophy is akin to masturbation. Everything that you realize has been articulated by far more intelligent people at some point in history.

>>737298082

Yea, no. Not really.

You're not seeing the bigger picture, or at least the one I seem to think of.

We "see" things very differently, we're "intelligent" in our own way.

If you saw the bigger picture that I'm talking about, the word intelligent wouldn't be the word to use for such thing, who's the one to say someone's intelligent?

>>737298082
Well, each of us has a unique experience, and every experience is important and needed.

>>737298185

Exactly.

>>737298185

even the fat NEET who jacks to anime porn or the muslim who went allu akbar at the ariana grande concert?

>>737298055

I can't tell you why.

Both due to the fact that I don't know how their culture is, and I can't tell why nature goes in the direction it goes, no one here can.

I haven't researched any religion, so I don't really know what it's about either.

>>737298185

important and needed how? Is there any objective purpose to the absurd state of existing?

>>737298055
>>>737297795
>Yeah no, you're not fooling anybody here. If believing that "Reality is subjective" is the right way to go, then why is it that countries where religions like Hinduism is popular are in a shit state right now compared to the West?

Well when you reach a state like that on a mass scale and no one bothers to organize the enlightenment of individuals and integrate it into societal structure of government; you get masses who simply can't be bothered to work with a governing power that doesn't accept the fleeting reality they exist in and doesn't understand how to motivate individuals who do. There's a communication disconnect that leaves them wanting to be free of their shackles and to walk unfettered instead of taking those shackles and reshaping them into tools for progress and prosperity. TL:DR = poor leadership makes for poor outcomes

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Enjoy the ride

>>737298470

You too :)

You can enjoy the ride. Just don't ask where it's heading. Ayy or you b sad

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>>737296371

>This post

HAHAHAHA Get a load of this retard! This is why you don't do drugs kids.

>>737298326
Even the lump of shit that stuck to your ass on your last bowel movement.

>>737298360
From my understanding, an awakening happened, but some things were not known or included. Think of life as a "zoo" experience for a young illuminati child, but sometimes the monkeys get smart. Usually they evolve to people, and that is a well understood place to be. However, we are in an unexpected twist where we did not go nuclear, and Trump is president (at 8 to 1 odds in Vegas against it).

Think of yourself as a pioneer in experience. The infinite means that everything repeats, but this particular world, is very rare.
>>737298470
Yes.

>>737298809

Well won't have any expectations, since it'll be nothing but an idea you've gotten yourself.

You won't necessarily get sad, if you acknowledge that you've got no control over the future anyway.

>>737299005
You do have control. And that includes relaxing and letting things progress.

>>737298884

You're not really seeing the picture I'm seeing.


Put yourself in another person's mind, step out of the small picture of your ego. Not meant in a negative way.

If you had no sense of empathy, no filter. You might think it's normal to kill someone else, right? Then, it's normal. To YOU it may not be normal due to the way you think and perceive things.

In the bigger picture, it is normal. Step out of your small picture for a moment and try to see it from multiple perspectives.

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>>737299005

>goals are just ideas blah blah blah
>just do nothing because we're fucked anyways

if thats the case then why dont you kill yourself?? also are you a poo in loo by chance?

>>737299005
knowing not knowing anything seems stupid. lmao

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>>737299246

>morality is subjective

Fuck having laws and shit amirite?

I cant imagine the idiots here feeling the feels mang.

>>737299334

Then what is it?

I exist, I'm being. It's not just as simple as it might sound to you. It includes a lot of acts.

Try to step outside of the bubble.

When did I say we're fucked? We're not.

I'm sorry if you see existing like that.

I don't feel the need to kill myself, since I really enjoy being.

Your definition of enjoying is most likely different, but I surely enjoy existence :)

>>737299446

I'm not saying fuck laws. I don't think you get my point.

I could keep explaining myself.

I wouldn't mind not having laws to be honest. Not saying I want that to happen, it's how it is.

>>737299446
>>737299626
lets dig deeper boiiis.

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>>737299515

You're literally making no sense at all. If you think you're "enlightened" in some way then I feel sorry for you. I eat pic related, which is a poison mushroom. I die from eating it because its POISON, its bad for me which makes it an OBJECTIVE TRUTH. To your logic, someone else who comes across this mushroom says its fruit and its fine because everything is subjective. He eats it because he thinks its FRUIT but its not. ITS FUCKING POISON. No amount of subjective thinking will change that fact. His dumbass dies anyways. Another person sees this and tells others not eat it because you will DIE. That piece of objective advice helps them lower their chances of dying because they know the mushroom is BAD. Ao they dont eat it and continue on. Now do you see why your logic is flawed?

>>737299626

>I wouldn't mind not having laws to be honest

Oh, so you would enjoy living the same way primitive humans lived then?

>>737299246
I debated with my philosophy teacher about rational and irrational morality. He was trying to tell me that Kantian ethics was based around a set of moral points. Basically, rational beings can think and rational beings do things that won't possibly hurt themselves. Then, it is not rational to hurt another rational being because if you did then you are hurting something that can rationalize your actions. I was asking him why rational is set in such parameters and why a suicide pact wherein you believe there is a better future after death is irrational.

>>737299878
no attacks mang.

>>737299878

I honestly don't see your point in any regard to mine.

>>737300073

Not at all if that was how it would be. I don't wish for it nor do I not want it.

>>737297768
I was stuck at the "one" part in my thougths. You added
>one can act as though it doesn't recognize itself
Could you elaborate? I'm not succeeding to integrate this into my thougths

>>737300288

Im refuting your whole posts in this thread

>Just because we've made educations, stating things in some books and whatnot, does not really make them able to define you as a being.
>A fictional system we've made in order to try to understand what's going on, which we really can't either.
>Who's to define crazy.

Basically Im telling you why your idea of a "subjective reality" is bullcrap. My last post was an example of why we label things like we do and why we "define who's crazy". It is those labels and wisdom that has helped our species grow spontaneously. Without them, we would still be stuck in the stone age wipping our asses with rocks.

>>737298075
>Inb4 now every op's answer will contain "bigger picture" as a final argument without ever describing this bigger picture in relation to the post he's replying to

>>737295648
Satan is the only truth you fucking philosophical faggot hahahhahahaha

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SATAN

>>737295648
That's well and all, but living this way puts the immense cognitive abilities of humans to wase: the human condition is the paradigm of free will, to desire, and act on it in a multitude of ways. I'm sorry I don't agree with you and this "just be" notion. Rather, I'll use my mind and be what I want to be.

>>737301202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCGtkDzELAI

>>737295648
>We're beyond the point, where we'd know the meaning of existing.
Why so? Existing is creating. Very easy.

>>737301202
Where does "What you wanna be" come from? From the sum of information that surrounded you when you were born. (Ofc before that actually, i'm just simplifying things for the current question) Do you have control over that? Nope. That means that you ultimately dont have control over anything. We can know that and still live everyday life like a game like we're used to.

>>737301243
Yeah, thanks for posting a YouTube video and not contributing anything to the actual rhetoric. I bring it up because free will is a subject that is widely discussed in "philosophy", and will be the subject of heated debates til the end of time. You had a chance to form your own thoughts for a second there, rather than provide a source with no real context. You even have yourself a chance to create your own thoughts. BUT HEY, WE'RE ALL "JUST BEING" AND NATURE WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. I threw you 3 perfectly hittable pitches. Don't strike out. I'm leaving now.

I wish you all well

>>737299878
What do you make of (few) people who resist this poison? Who the fuck knows maybe they are enlightened in some way?

>>737301530
I want to be a person who eats a steak; I kill a cow; I cut a steak; I cook a steak; I eat a steak. I am now a person who ate a steak. How is free will this foreign to you?

>>737301737
This is the "want" part you're not asking yourself questions about. Where the fuck does this come from.

>>737300905

Because it's difficult to put words on a sense of something "unknown".

The feeling of seeing the bigger picture, to seeing the smaller one, is extremely hard to put words on, personally.

>>737299878

I don't feel enlightened in that way, no.

Don't get why you feel sorry for me being well.

Either way, as I've said multiple times. When it comes to the end of my point, it's just being. Existing. There's a lot more than "just existing" - Hence why I keep saying try to see the bigger picture.

I'm not telling anybody to ignore the way of nature, you can't.

>>737301837
>inb4 this is my free will

>>737301837

what are you trying to say? that he was manipulated by the evil white man to like steak? nah he ate steak because it tastes good

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>>737295648
I agree with much of you say. But society is a machine that has been turning for eons and will continue to turn. We are caught up in this machine. It has too much momentum for us to do anything but get caught up in it.

Not taking a defeatist stance on things, just keeping it "real"

>>737301577
>>737301577
lmao nice exit. im just saying there are other topics out there to refute "FREE WILL". If you come back to reply I would like to ask what have you become anon with your way of life?

>>737301915

...but what is the 'bigger picture', my oh enlightened one?

>>737301939
>what are you trying to say? that he was manipulated by the evil white man to like steak?
Hahaha no. He was actually manipulated by the whole universe to eat it. Is "free will" to decide to eat a steak is direct consequence of every little thing that composed his life until now. For example, one of those thing is the fact that he isnt born in an hindu family where they culturally dont eat beef, he then wouldnt have had the "free will" to "want to eat a steak".

>>737301837
It comes from the part of my brain that allows cognition.

I tried to make this thread, in hope that I could contribute to some people's observation of reality, not offend anybody. Don't have any intentions to harass or offend anybody's way of living.

>>737302156

Read some comments where I tried to explain it.

Example:
>>737301915

Why the need to come at me that way? Do you think it's a bad act to try and help contribute? I'm not forcing this on anyone at all, I'm only trying to get some thoughts running.

>>737302249
Exactly, so it's based on experience (information you gathered until know in your life) plus current context.

>>737302406
and if you knew anything about this, you'd know how much of this field of neurology barely even touches theoretical stages. You make the point that we have to question these things, but as humans, we have the cognitive ability to do so. The fact that we are capable of empathy, or how sections of the brain, called mirror neurons, fire when we watch someone else perform an action, even when we haven't experience the action ourselves , go to show that the mind is not a predetermined phenomenon. If you truly believed in determinism, you would conclude that these are just the way we were meant to be, with these opposing views, and it can't be helped. Instead, you're here trying to prove me wrong, or something along those lines. Even in your own logic, you are flawed. It was bait to begin with, and I'm an idiot for even replying

>>737302359
>Why the need to come at me that way?

>A lot of people(including myself once before doing psychedelics and kinda forced me by automatic), is stuck in the smaller picture rather than seeing the bigger picture.

>>737298075
>It's about the bigger picture of everything

>>737298179
>If you saw the bigger picture

>>737299246
>In the bigger picture, it is normal.

This is why. You contributed "bigger picture" too many times. Its like saying "I know something that makes what I'm saying true and you gotta believe me on it" when you're saying "you just dont see the bigger picture".

>>737303475

I get what you mean.

--

What I see as the small picture:

You're following whatever you've been told to, you don't pay attention to the "bigger things", rather than just going on your job every day, working for money, having the "mainstream" view on life where everything is put in boxes, and where you only go for factual things(not meant exactly as I wrote it, take it with a gran of salt) - A picture where you'd follow the society/community as we know it. This is the best way I can explain it.

I'm often told "you're a weirdo, you don't have Facebook. Wow that's weird, why don't you party? You're such a loser, you meditate, you like philosophy" - Following the "norms", I think most of us knows the "type". I can't find the correct words for it right now, I hope you catch my drift.

>>737303158
>The fact that we are capable of empathy, or how sections of the brain, called mirror neurons, fire when we watch someone else perform an action, even when we haven't experience the action ourselves , go to show that the mind is not a predetermined phenomenon.

Can I ask you something? Is it predetermined that a person is most likely to do the same thing that they watch or learn from someone else or is it "free will"?

>>737303475


>>737303941 (continuing this post)

Not seeing the bigger picture, is what I see as only seeing what's in the front of you. Exploring life further than other than what you've been told or read in a book.

It's not meant negatively at all, I appreciate we all have different ways of seeings things. It just often tends to close the borders of having a bigger view on life.

Example:

I was depressed a lot once, I didn't see the bigger picture. All I knew was "that", all I could see what that I was depressed and that was it. I just went to school, followed what the "norms" was.

I "won" over my depression by seeing the bigger picture, it opened a whole other world to me. Hence why I'm making this thread, it might help other people as well.

Life isn't just that and this.

>>737304192 (continuing again)

I wrote it very simple. But it's how I see it TLDR.

It took a lot of time to realize how far away I was faded from the bigger picture before I experienced it via psychedelics(I know for a fact that you don't need drugs in order to reach this state. I was just so deep down in my own world that I couldn't see anything else, I couldn't even imagine that it was the case at that point in my life) - So, it's not "just" seeing it, also why I'm having a hard time explaining this feeling.

>>737304407
>>737304192
>>737303941

tl;dr reject herd mentality and do ya own thing

wow really made me think... as if we havent heard that a million times now

>>737304009
Let me ask you something:

Is it free will if this person chooses wether or not to perform this observed action based on a desired outcome?

>>737303158
>It was bait to begin with, and I'm an idiot for even replying
It isnt bait I actually believe what I'm saying.

>The fact that we are capable of empathy, or how sections of the brain, called mirror neurons, fire when we watch someone else perform an action, even when we haven't experience the action ourselves , go to show that the mind is not a predetermined phenomenon.
How is empathy not predetermined? Basically empathy is to feel what feels another, right? Its a learned ability. You feel bad or good for people when you imagine yourself in their position, thats all, or am I missing something here?

>and if you knew anything about this
>If you truly believed in determinism, you would conclude that these are just the way we were meant to be, with these opposing views, and it can't be helped.
Assumptions.

>Instead, you're here trying to prove me wrong, or something along those lines.
Nope, I'm trying to try my ideas, ie to prove them right or wrong by confronting them to what others think about it.

>>737304192
I do appreciate what you're doing anon. How I see the "bigger picture" you're talking about is It's sorta like throwing you out into infinity and you sorta just give up and let all things happen because it's happening anyways. But I do have to remind you. Not everyone see life as a positive or awesome like you do. Some people feel a deep pain and anger because they can't seem to get the real reason of existence, why they're existing or why everything is existing.

Just saying

>>737304496
It's basically the same question.

>>737304630

I was one of those once, it drove me totally insane at the time.

Not saying that I'm trying to escape reality or whatever by thinking this way. Of course, this is a philosophy, I'm not saying that I live in the stone age due to this. I can see the both sides of the coin.

To me it's not giving up, at all. What would you be giving up?

We've got the chance to exist, why not take the ride and see what it has to give? You never know what it has to give, I think it depends on what you see as positive and negative. I personally don't really see the negative nor positive about life, it just is. I do enjoy life, I guess that sounds positive to many, but I don't really see it as anything but living, it just is.

>>737304192
>>737304630
Let me just add. Some of those people that feel deep pain, anger or sadness is not because they're not thinking beyond it, I reckon because they thought beyond it. Theyre so called NIHILIST i think.

>>737305072 (continuing, again)

I guess I learnt not to feed what I see as negative, such as being sad. I was very sad a while ago, not sure why, guess it's due to my past.

I'm not feeding the thought about being sad, I'd now just let it be as it is.

I think Mooji explains it a lot better than I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5IF7x-ziA

>>737303941
>>737304192
To sum up how I see what you're describing:
>Not seeing the bigger picture, is what I see as only seeing what's in the front of you.
Try to see the bigger picture is essentially curiosity. "Be more curious" is what you're really saying.

>>737304600
>How is empathy not predetermined? Basically empathy is to feel what feels another, right? Its a learned ability. You feel bad or good for people when you imagine yourself in their position, thats all, or am I missing something here?

You're missing nothing. It is predetermined in the sense that we learn what sadness is and apply it to sad stimuli, but the fact that it is a learned ability, and the cognitive brainstorm that occurs when we're faced with these stimuli, show how life is an inherently complex network of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, where a conscious decision can create a series of infinitely different outcomes.

>Nope, I'm trying to try my ideas, ie to prove them right or wrong by confronting them to what others think about it

I wouldn't have known. All you do is passive aggressively pick apart others' ideas, while contributing none of your own.

>>737305250
Could you tell something about the "anger" side?
Ok. let's say.. I give it up. No more anger. then whats next anon?

>>737304630
>why they're existing or why everything is existing
How could anything be otherwise? There's somewhere where everything is, and that is here, and somewhere where nothing is. (But where could you ask? I would answer: Didnt you already experience this when you fall asleep or loose consciousness ?)
Seems pretty understandable.

>>737304755
With more emphasis on the ability to choose in the process.

>>737304496
>chooses
You choose because of the information surrounding you + what you learned since childhood that makes you what you are

>>737305763
Does choice exist? And in what value is life?

>>737295648
ZAAAANGOOOKU

>>737305880
> And in what value is life?
wut

>>737305968
I mean how valuable is life. Sorry no good.

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>>737295648
OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

>>737305878
Tell me anon pls. Why do some people are angry or sad about existence. If our actions are pretermined or because of free will or whatever.. why we here anon? why is everything is anon?

>>737306447
anyone? pls? wubbalubbadubdub

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>>737297638
You could at least reference The Cave by Plato you cretin. What's the point in "spreading your knowledge to the unenlightened" when you are so woefully ignorant of your own species achievements. The wonder of the cosmos becomes a lot more meaningful if you don't go full hubris and ignore this reality for the infinite that we can't access.

God damn do I hate hippies.

>>737305502
>You're missing nothing. It is predetermined in the sense that we learn what sadness is and apply it to sad stimuli, but the fact that it is a learned ability, and the cognitive brainstorm that occurs when we're faced with these stimuli, show how life is an inherently complex network of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, where a conscious decision can create a series of infinitely different outcomes.
You don't say it's not predetermined in all this. I actually wait for you to say the word "random" because " infinitely different outcomes" doesnt mean they"re random, right?

>I wouldn't have known. All you do is passive aggressively pick apart others' ideas, while contributing none of your own.
I'm not a native speaker so maybe the passive aggressive vibe you felt comes from that. I'm not talking emotional in my posts but just analytic.
If something in my "pick-apart-ing" ideas seems wrong to you logic wise you should say so, and that is one of the things that I hope to suceed in here, finding some new idea that can upgrade my vision of things.

see u boiis. enjoy this nice song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJqUvBj4rE

>>737306447
>why is everything is anon?
See here >>737305732

>>737306447
>Why do some people are angry or sad about existence
They lack information or molecules in their brain.

>>737304495
yet we still seem to fall into the same repetitive loops,

not being said enough? or noone actually listening.

>>737296937
>>>737296864
>No such thing as a new form of LSD-25, LSD is LSD.
>Any chemical name?
There are several LSD analogues. ALD-52, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 1P-LSD, LSZ.

My most amazing trip was on 350ug ALD-52. LSD-25 is great, but after being against drugs until I turned 22 I grew very curious and ended up trying all of those and many other psychedelics in the past 3 years.

I recently had my first DMT breakthrough on changa I made with self extracted DMT and harmaline too :)

>>737306447
>why we here anon?
We are a result of the creative force of the universe, so we're likely here to create.

>>737305250
your view of having a negative side is wrong anon

there are no positives or negatives, just a collaboration of the two in every instance, your specific view determines what you see of the instant.

and the examples are the story's of the man stating," who knows what's good or bad?"

>>737308048

>people like op give a very vague , broad, and
short description to stop being sheep
>yet we still seem to fall into the same repetitive loops

gee i wonder why too

>>737306083
Valuable as in what? How much $ did we pay to be born ? Or how much should I give to a killer so he ends a man's life?

>>737308671
value does not equal a dollar representation.

seeing as value is inherently subjective.

>>737308821
Yeah, so what's the point of asking the value of life then?

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>>737308821

>value is inherently subjective
>i shitpost with people who are dumb as this kid

>>737309044
I actually agree with him. For example, a loaf of bread doesnt have the same value for a man of the third world than for one of the wealthy countries. A poor man will think twice before putting an old hard loaf of bread in the trash.

>>737309373

Except what he is saying is that poor man maybe rich in some other person's eyes and a billionaire maybe poor in another person's eyes because "muh what defines a rich man xD - bob marley"

>>737309553
I dont think it was that, anon.
You see, I didnt really follow the Bob Marley culture, but what you said he said doesnt seem wrong to me. It's just that its painfully obvious, and maybe that's what your reaction comes from.

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>>737308279
suck out lad

>>737295648
Bumping

Guess it's /thread

Thanks for the contributions everyone.

May you all have peace!

>>737312646
die fag

>>737296392
it's not shaman stuff
i saw you yesterday
it's something different ▲

>>737312755

I will, someday eventually.

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>>737312646
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>>737306700
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>>737312938
>someday eventually
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-dundant phrasing nigger.

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>>737295648
'We' need to eliminate this technology humans are using, they're being deceived by mind control via radio frequencies that resonate in their bodies and minds. Free them, surely Ancient technology is capable of creating an EMP never mind the rest of the super-weapons they're unaware of.

>>737295648
lost me at "purely just", combo'd with the cliché picture that all potheads attach to the OP of these threads.