what's gayer /b/ musclegirls or traps? let's settle

one looks healthy and fit and the other one has a dick
You tell me

>>737004464
/thread

>>737004379
Muscle girls don't have a dick, so...

Traps have a dick.
Anyhow, I don't think the gay/straight definition even matters unless you're wildly insecure with yourself. No one that matters cares that much outside of memes.
I've had sex with a musclegirl. She was gorgeous when I had last seen her (few years previous, was a fitness/bikini competitor) but had since bulked up hard and was competing on bodybuilding. I probably have the technical terms incorrect since I don't follow the sport.
Anyhow, the sex was terrible. She was insane and not in the fun way. She seemed hormonal and imbalanced, pretty sure she was taking supplements but she may have just been a cunt. I'm not smart enough to be able to know the difference.

>>737004379
That's like saying what's more fruity? A potato or an Apple

There is one clear answer.

Also more muscle girls?

>>737004960
post pics or insta pls

>>737005080
Lel enjoy buck angels pussy then

>>737004379
It's settled for everyone who is not mentally challenged. Traps are men.

The real question is are you 100% gay or just 95%?

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>>737005080
1 terabyte of content here
what would you like to see?

>>737005643
Giant clit, please

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>>737006346

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>>737006346
>>737006478

Traps = Feminine body with male body parts
Muscle girl = Manly body with female body parts

Idk both are poison

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>>737005891
colette guimond has the biggest one

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>>737004379
>What's gayer /b/ fucking a woman or a man?

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>>737004379
Muscle girls are unattractive. They are either traps or dykes. Lets turn the tables and think what type of man wants to look like woman?

>>737004379
hot traps are unholy freaks of nature and that gets me off

i can do my own bicep curls

Traps are the queerest. At least muscle girls got pussies to fuck

>>737004379
Traps, because they are literally guys.

Muscle girls are no doubt gay too, but at least you could still fuck them in the pussy.

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>>737004379
traps bc muscle girls are still girls

>>737008200
Any pics of her abs?

>>737004379
>muscle girl
female
has female sex organs
looks like a female other than larger than average muscle mass.
>MtF tranny
claims to be female
still has dick
looks feminine (ideally)
>FtM tranny
has vagina
looks like a man
Generally more fat than muscle
hairy
so from least gay, to most gay
muscle girl
MtF
FtM
reasoning, muscle girl is a female, who retains mostly female characteristics, Mtf is a male, but has mostle female characteristics, FtM is a female, but has mostly male characteristics.

>>737004379
traps cuz actually male

>>737004464
The Closer

>>737007291

She even wears man underwear.

This entire thread is made possible by autism

>>737008523
What are you 5? Those are panties you moron. Calvin Klein makes women's stuff too.

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>>737008247
she's a curlbro
abs are weak

>>737008878
That's a shame. Abs>arms on a girl imo.

>>737007153
>Muscle girls are unattractive

say for yourself. to my tastes, musclegirls are awesome and my go to fap material

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>>737009141
I like big biceps but have some abs

Traps by definition. However, the question won't stop me from liking both. Especially musclegirl/trap pairings.

>>737004379
Whichever looks more like a man.

If something that looks male turns you on, its gay.

If it looks feminine and that turns you on, its not.

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Atleast traps look somewhat feminine, unlike most fucking muscledudettes.

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>>737009642
>hating on based Sophie

>>737004379
Stop trying to convince yourself that fapping to traps isn't gay by making these retarded threads. If you hate yourself so much over it, then end your life.

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>>737010054
Used to frequent the same gym as her a few years back, she's a great person but bruh she ain't fucking feminine.
Seen straight up dudes that are more feminine than she is. Atleast she's smaller nowadays than she was before.

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>>737006346
>>737006478
>>737006565
That's so fucking hot

>>737004464
>grill with so much muscle that her body no longer looks like a grill
>healthy

>>737010458
>thinks fat is healthier than muscle
Found the hamplanet.

>>737008878

don't u mean curlgirl?

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>>737010458
Adipose tissue is normal on girls, it shapes their female characteristics like feminine hips, thighs, breasts, butt. Soft things feel good in a male's hand.

Transforming your body until you look like a freak may not indicate physical health problems, but hints at something even worse: mental health problems.

>>737010230
tell us something about her. whats she like irl?

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>>737004379
I like both.

Also, liking muscular girls just shows that you aren't some insecure fat fuck.

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I have the sulution to this debate, it's a spectrum.
The most gay thing is being attracted to big, hairy, muscular men with deep voice, big dick, etc. The most straight thing is being attracted to a curvy but petite, smooth woman with a soft voice etc. In the middle there is nothing but some kind of hermaphrodite with som weird mix of traits. Just to the gay side, are really feminine men, like traps and shemales. Just to the straight side is really masculine women, like FtM and FBB's. The rest can be figured out from there.

So what is the most gay OP? Traps, no doubt, but it's not very gay.

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>>737011246
I mean she's just a normal person really?
Pretty laid back and bubbly, and pretty competitive.

>mfw someone asks me to describe what a person is like
This was unexpectedly hard to do.

>>737011310
>only fat people can think that thick muscles aren't attractive

That's like saying only homophones that are insecure about their sexuality think traps are gay

>>737011575

This is actually the most real answer. Sexuality has always been a spectrum.

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>>737012200
>homophone

>>737007153
>Muscle girls are unattractive

say for yourself. to my tastes, musclegirls are awesome and my go to fap material

>>737012388
Jokes on (You)

Fuck a man is gay if u a man
Fuck a woman is hetero if u a man
Not so hard to understand op

>>737012301
Moar of this kid of "fit."
Toned abs are honestly what does it. Jessica Alba style.

>>737006781
thats a fucking penis

>>737004379
musclegirls

>>737004379
Still traps are 'gayer'.

But muscle girls?...personally, as long as they maintain their feminity, they can look as buff as they want to be. As strong as they want to get. It's all good for me to fantasize about. It is possible.

Examples from this thread:
>>737004379
>>737005643
>>737006346
>>737006478
>>737006565
>>737007291
>>737008200
>>737008878
>>737009382
>>737009642
>>737010054
>>737011622
>>737012130
>>737012212
>>737012272
>>737012301

On the other hand, there are girls who take it waaaaay too seriously, and thus begin to lose their looks. They're hell bent on 'something' to see all traces of their gender disappear, neither man or female, even as a cross between the two. I mean, I wonder what do they get out of it? Looking human-less?...

Examples are:
>>737006781
>>737011813
>>737011885
>>737011955
>>737012041
>>737012307

>>737012555
but how do you define man and woman?
Man = masculine characteristics
Woman = feminine characteristics

If all it took to be a woman was having a vagina, people could get married to their onaholes and onaholes would be given the right to vote.

>>737012888
>>737011955
I don't know bro, I will fuck her with all my might. I bet that out of competition time she looks better.

>>737006781
more please

>>737012902
Don't play dumb. You know the difference between both genders. If a man plays the role of a woman, at the end of the day he's still a man, with a fancy title. And vise versa.

>>737011575
This is stupid. So when I fuck any woman that is not the petite fem stereotype I am, at best, a little gay? While fucking a woman?

>>737004379
are...
are there any muscle traps?

>>737013519
Yes. Because you are turned on while looking at non-feminine features

>>737013657
Don't fly too close to the sun, anon. You might get burnt.
>No homo

>>737013817
Because I like women. I don't care if she have some slightly manly characteristics.

>>737011575
Enough spectrum shit. Quit trying to science my fetishes and shit I like because it's kind of weird and taboo. Sometimes fully understanding something you like demystifies it and kills it. Let's just all like what we like and be glad there's fap material for it.

>>737004464
/thread

>>737013990
don't try to stop me!

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>>737013347

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>>737014544

>>737014544
very nice, smooth, soft

>>737014387
>>737014468
>>737014502
>>737014544
>>737014602
no i meant big clits specifically

although this is super hot too thanks

>>737014636
Looks a little fake.

>>737004379
>what's gayer, a man or a woman
I can't even...

>>737014817
musclegirls look much more like men than traps tho

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You can keep your muscle girls

>>737014348
I wouldn't dare. Fly on, space cowboy.

>>737007153
good God. what is his/her name?

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>>737013657
Natalia Coxxx

>>737014928
Why does he always have those stupid ass bangs? Bowl cut having bitch. Style that shit, for fuck sake.

>>737015018
i asked a girl why she had bangs like that

on that day i learned that ugly as shit foreheads are a thing

>>737011310
I'd fuck a man that looks like a woman, but I wouldn't fuck a woman that looks like a man.
I am still an insecure fat fuck, tho.

>>737004379
traps is the gayest shit, muscle girls are still female after all...

>>737015009
nice, better than expected.

>>737014928
Post pics of her fat cock pls

>>737015283
I'm aware of the legendary "fivehead"
But, damn. Every time someone posts a pic of Bailey, he has this shitty hairstyle.

>>737015440
Requesting the gif, where he's brushing his teeth.

>>737015009
are there any white ones, too?

>>737004379
Traps have a dick. What do you think you mong?

>>737004379

tl;dr is it more gay to fuck a woman or a man when you're a man.

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>>737015684

>>737015891
Mein nigga!

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>>737015746
Nina Lawless

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>>737016842

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>>737016842
>Bruno with tits.

>>737016995
pretty much this.

>>737016842
>>737016979
>>737016995
So this derailed pretty badly. Looking for muscle traps. So just a Chad thread. Fuckers.

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>>737015440

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>>737017586

>>737017586
>>737017696
The tiny head weirds me out.

>>737013519
No, no. But it's not the maximum "amount of straight". You are not past the mid point where it becomes gay, but compared to the fem stereotype it's less straight, or more gay, however you want to put it, but not actually gay.

why can't I find videos of these bodybuilding chicks getting fucked in the ass?

>>737013519
I think its more like you have on one side Scarlet Johansson and on the other side you have Ultra Mega Giga Nigga. The further you move away from scarlet the closer you are to the gay threshold. But imho you are gay only
if you put your dick in someone who is XY regardless if its a cute trap
If someone with a dick puts it inside you
You may think a trap is cute and that doesnt make you gay.
Fucking the trap Does make you gay

>>737018413
Because they have dicks. They would be exposed as fakers.

>>737004379
Faggots pretending to be girls, you dumbass.

>>737006734
underrated

>>737007153
Sauce please

>>737012427
I want her to rape me

Anderson Cooper

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>>737004379
Is this gay?

>>737021506
No. You are though.

>>737004464
/thread

>>737004464
One appears feminine, the other appears masculine. You tell me.

>>737004379
i love em both

>>737023532
>Sexuality
>SEXUALITY
>Sexual
>SEX
>Penis INTO Vagina

>>737023879
This is what I imagine Saiyan women looking like.

>>737023532
one is a girl the other is a guy

>>737024144
Why do they get old lady faces? Her face looks 50 with gusts up to 55.

>>737004379
traps of course

>>737024360
The tanning and anabolic steroids.
Obviously.
Also the fact that she genuinely probably is 40+

What about a tranny fucking a muscular girl, is that gay?

>>737011955
wouldcuddle/10

>>737004379
I have no issue with a woman I'm with being able to beat me up (I don't imagine such a thing would happen anyway, since we're talking about sexy time). I do have an issue with a woman I'm with having a penis though, because that means a whole lot of things like "eewww, penis" and "where the fuck's the vagoo??"...

>>737024665
No.
That's a penis going into a vagina.

>>737024138
>>737024334
So being attracted to Buck Angel isn't gay but being attracted to Bailey Jay is. Also by >>737024138 logic anal is always gay no matter what.

>>737007291
now THAT is probably the only muscle girl i'd fuck. goddamn

>>737024851
Being attracted to Buck Angels Vagina isn't gay.
Just weird.

Being attracted to Bailey Jays Penis is gay.


Sexuality is derived from the sex.

You can like Baileys femininity all you want, but if you don't run for the hills when she flops it out, you're gay.

Likewise, if you're into dudes and Buck flaps out her muff - and you're okay with it; you're not into dudes.

At the very least it'd make you pansexual.
But that's fucking stupid, so you're just a faggot.
Being a faggot is fine, faggot.

>>737004379
Im gay and i like both so both are gay if you ask me.

>>737024851
Liking either of them is gay. The girls posted in the thread have been much more typical examples over Buck.

>>737024851
Also how does that make anal gay no matter what?

If sexuality is decided by the sex of the reciprocate, as long as they have the opposite reproductive organ, you can stick it where you want and still be straight.

The point being; straight males are turned off by cock.

>>737025343
Muscles on a chick don't bother me but they really should stay away from roids.

>>737025113
Aspen Rae. That picture is pretty old when she peaked. She's way buffer now. It's pretty gross.

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>>737014960
>>737020576
Sofie

She's got some awful bolt-ons now, unfortunately.
>inb4 "she"

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>>737013657
>are there any muscle traps?
No. Because real life trans women are idiots who literally take anti-anabolic steroids. It makes them look like eunuchs and it kills their boner until they eventually get a dick removal surgery. They are so brainwashed that they will fight you if you try to tell them how wrong they are.

Typical trans woman:
>How can I lose muscles?

Typical guide for trans women:
>Lose muscle, gain fat
http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/

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>>737004379
Hey Anon I brought us some pineapple! But I heard you think it's gay that I can squat 225#? Do you really think that Anon? You'd rather suck Bailey Jay's cock? This makes me sad

>>737025497
That's the kind of narrow, human-behaviour-should-be-based-on-pure-biology definition of sexuality that someone irrationally afraid of being "gay" would hav. When you see a hot girl on the street you are attracted to everything about her other than her genitals.

>>737025807
So... You want your feminized men to be muscular with functioning cocks, and you've actually told them that they're wrong for trying to be more like the gender they're attempting to convert to?

All of my what

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>>737025849
1. Don't judge my fetishes, you cis-cunt.
2. Pineapple sucks.

>>737004379
As if straight teenagers would know.

>>737026071
And yet if I peeled back the panties and saw a cock, I'd 360 and waltz my ass out of there.

You are not a straight male. Because being a straight male is NOT being attracted to penis.
That's like the number 1 rule in the handbook, man. Did you forget to pick up a copy?

>>737026251
why does fitting that definition of a straight male matter to you so much

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>>737026190
Do you know how tight warm and smooth my gooey snatch is Anon? The asshole has initial tightness it's a hollow sock after that. A lifting waifu has strong pelvic wall that will milk your cock dry.

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>>737026428
And yet you act more manly than an actual man, so take your ugly yeast factory and fuck off and I'll stick with a nice tight asshole.

>>737026366
Because that is the definition lol.

Like you said, if I saw an attractive female on the street it wouldn't be her vagina that makes me attractive, but it'd be her cunt where my thoughts would go.

If you fantasize about said female on the street, and she has a penis in your fantasy - That's gay.

In mine she has a vagina.
In which is my penis.
Understand?

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Depends on how muscular she is.

>>737026251
360 is like looking right back at that cock ...

180 is turning around

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>>737026117
>they are wrong for trying to be more asexual like eunuchs
Fixed. I thought we've already established ITT that muscle women are feminine. But no, you will keep moving the goalposts as always.

>All of my what
You'll never learn.

>>737010458
>a grill
>is a grill
>no matter where you go

>>737026737
>what is a moonwalk
newfuck

>>737026737
You're new here, aren't you?

>>737024144
>tfw you're actually jelly of a grill's upper body
I'm confused and diamonds

>>737026647
I understand that you are the average straight male who feels he must appear straight all the time, no matter what out of fear of being seen as gay. But consider this: who gives a fuck. Free your mind anon.

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You guys are doing it wrong. Muscular women look fine as long as they aren't taking steroids. Take most ufc women for example:

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Lie to me and tell me you wouldn't, /b/

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>>737010621
wrong
you found the lover of annies & skinny-fat chicks

>>737026850
Muscle women on anabolic steroids, achieving muscle mass that only a male could achieve.
I never agreed to that being feminine.

>>737026887
People who care about the use of language, probably.

I am straight. I do not like penis. Penis is a turn off for me.

You are not. You like penis. Some penis turns you on.

Nothing wrong with that, man. Just makes you look less than smart when you think you can be straight and like cock.

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APEX KEX at any guys titillated by extremely masculine female bodies who also look down on guys who are titillated by crossdressers, traps, trannies, femboys, ladyboys, dickgirls, shemales, futas, twinks or whatever the hell it happens to be and any combination of the aforementioned

>>737004464
BAIT OPSAFAG SAGE

>>737026858
>>737026873
fuck off

so you have to know every god damn meme on here... get a life basement dwellers

So now it's not enough for the captcha assholes to require us to solve endless captcha... now they also had to make it transition from slide to slide in slow motion. Now purposefully slowed down 10x. How much longer are we willing to put up with "free" 4chan and captcha? How much worse must it become before we have enough?

>>737027280
y so mad bro
That shits old and common.
You really are new

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>>737027280
Lurk moar, newfag.

>>737027323
So use the legacy captcha, faggot.

>>737027350
>>737027394
when the only thing to be proud of is to be 24/7 on /b/
pathetic

>>737027500
such anger.
I love it.
Chekt

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>>737027060
>Muscle women [are] on anabolic steroids
Just because your mum is white it doesn't mean that all women need drugs to have distinct muscles.

>>737027500
u disguest me

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>>737027500

>>737027539
>>737027591
>>737027592
if that makes you guys happy..

think whatever you will, like i give a shit

>>737004379
>let's settle this once and for all
This is 4chan. You fags will argue about this till the end of time. Also, my 2 cents:

Muscular girls still have a feminine shape (see for example >>737012393), but most men are repulsed by their manly arms and shoulders. People who like traps like them solely because they have dicks, otherwise they would just fap to normal girls. So liking traps is gay, liking muscular girls isn't. But most importantly, nobody cares. It the 21st century, you can be openly gay in almost any advanced society. Stop lying to yourself. People who judge you for wanting to stick your dick in a man are primitive baboons and aren't worth your time.

>>737027585
Not all of them.
Easy to tell when their shoulders protrude like >>737024144

Not even men can get that without extra test

>>737027739
This

>>737027494
>So use the legacy captcha, faggot.
Guess what happens when I switch to legacy captcha? It switches back. So who is the fagggot?

Right now I had to solve 6 screens of captcha.

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>>737027729
>still replying
mysides.jpg

>>737027202
I guess my ultimate point is that threads like this only exist because people are afraid of being 'gay'. Which is dumb.

What you call someone who is attracted to the female form regardless of the type of genitals, I don't know. Semi-gay?

So op is asking if you're a man, is it more gay to be attracted to another man or to a woman? Am I understanding this question correctly?

>>737027739
>But most importantly, nobody cares. It the 21st century, you can be openly
Bullshit. There are countless ways idiots can force the wrong stuff on you if you let them have the final say.

>slow motion captcha
Anyone else being crippled by this shit?

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>>737027729
>like I give a shit
>still replying
>obviously mad

>>737028106
>I guess my ultimate point is that threads like this only exist because people are afraid of being 'gay'.
See >>737028155

>>737028106
Pansexual, isn't it?
Though I prefer bisexual

As that other dude said though, if you claim to be straight and yet look up traps to jerk it to, you're only doing that for penis.
That's the opposite of straight.

So again, if you go onto a porn website and end up looking at the feminine males as opposed to the feminine females which are readily available, you can /not/ be straight.

It doesn't matter at all, and being afraid of being gay is dumb. You're right.

Which is exactly why we should start calling this what it is.

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>>737027740
>Not even men can get that without extra test
And this is supposed to be why trans women must have LESS muscle than average woman? Go fool someone else.

>>737028485
>Why trans women must have less muscle than average women

I'm sorry, where did I say that?

I only mocked the idea of some dude trying to tell men that want to be women that they should stay muscular and keep their cocks.

Found it pretty laughable.

>>737028716
>I'm sorry, where did I say that?
You didn't have to. It's the reality.

>>737028787
You think I think mtf trans should be less muscular than the average female... Because you think I think that?

That logic is untouchable.

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>>737028716
>mocked the idea of some dude trying to tell men that want to be women that they should stay muscular and keep their cocks.
If this thread proves anything it's that wimpy ≠ feminine. But you won't integrate this knowledge, will you?

>5 screens of captcha everytime
>up from the usual 2

>>737028787
Is that why every fucking mtf is beating the shit out of women in sports you dumbass???

>>737004379
I think it's gay if she has a bigger dick than you. As for muscle girls, I think it depends on how manly she looks. If op pic? Hell no, that chick is cute as fuck

Why not just masturbate to the things that make your peepee feel good?

>Being this concerned about what others beat their meat too

>>737029136
>Why not just masturbate to the things that make your peepee feel good?
Because idiots who think otherwise won't let you, moron.

>>737029102
oh, so genetic females aren't naturally weaker and less adept at building muscle?
They don't naturally carry a higher fat percentage?
They're not naturally weaker?

Sorry. My mistake.

>>737029262
Who's stopping you from fagging out to traps, you tard?

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>>737004379
>choosing between the two
Muscle traps are the most bro-tier waifu

>>737029288
>genetic females are naturally more prone to breast cancer
>so trans women must get breast cancer
Your logic. Analogy.

>>737029420
No.
See, that analogy falls apart when you consider that trans women actually want to look like women.

You're not very good at this thinking thing, are you?

>>737029340
Spiderman, and not only him.
Have you ever heard about Putin or Pence?

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>>737029392
Abs aren't "muscles", they are just lack of fat.
Muscle traps don't exist.

>YFW captcha is now veeery slow-motion

>>737029861
>Abs
>Abdominal muscles
>Not muscles

>>737029995
He's right about what he means to be fair.
Your abs could be as swole as you could possibly get them, but they'll still be invisible unless you have seriously low bodyfat.

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>>737029609
>trans women actually want to look like women.
Oh, so we're back to the start of this conversation... I was right, discussion with anon is pointless because anon has no memory.

>5 or 6 screens of captcha for no reason
Am I being shadowbanned from 4chan?

>>737029995
Then how come it doesn't take any weight gain to get a six pack?

>>737030110
Thank you.

>>737028243
gynocentrism: the image

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>>737030249
What are you talking about?
That was the only discussion on hand.

Someone suggested mtf trans should keep functioning cocks and their natural amount of muscle.

The only point I've argued is that male to female trans don't want a cock and a load of muscles, because they want to look like the gender they want to be.

Perhaps you've me confused for another anon

muscle girls with roid bodies are more gay than traps
natty girls are not gay at all

>>737004379

Being attracted to the musclegirl is more gay than being attracted to the trap.

Fucking the trap is more gay than fucking the musclegirl.

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>>737030662
>male to female trans want BREAST CANCER because they want to be like the gender they want to be
This logic again.

>lack of muscles is feminine
No, lack of muscles is asexual.

>5 captcha screens every time
>because the usual 2 weren't enough
>plus slow-motion captcha

>>737010970
As opposed to the blatant mental illness of traps?

>>737031015

So sad. What a fucking waste.

>>737030937
You can't apply that logic to that.
Women don't HAVE cancer. They get cancer.

Women DO have naturally lower muscle mass, and naturally higher body fat.

Women have less muscle naturally because of their hormones.
If you want to be a woman, you're not exactly going to start shooting up and lifting like Schwarzenegger, are you?

For a trans person ALL it is is a cosmetic difference that they strive to achieve.

Google men.
Google women.
Now tell me which body a dude that wants to be a woman would prefer.

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>>737004379
Both are 100% heterosexual

>>737031085
see >>737031301

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>>737004464

>>737025728
>"she"
You can predict it, doesn't make it any less true.

>>737026117
>So... You want your feminized men to be muscular with functioning cocks, and you've actually told them that they're wrong for trying to be more like the gender they're attempting to convert to?
>All of my what

>>737026850
>>they are wrong for trying to be MORE ASEXUAL like eunuchs
>Fixed. I thought we've already established ITT that muscle women are feminine. But no, you will keep moving the goalposts
>You'll never learn.

>>737029609
>trans women actually want to look like women.

>>737030249
>Oh, so we're back to the start of this conversation...

>>737030662
>What are you talking about?
>That was the only discussion on hand.

Anonymous confirmed for unable to learn.

Also see >>737027585 >>737029102

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It has a vagoogoo. Be attracted or you're gay.