McDonald's officially replacing 3000 workers for machines.

>>736771319
I for one welcome our new machine overlords.
mcdonalds cashiers are almost always complete idiots.

>>736771319
No, this is what happens when a corporation realizes they can cut costs by eliminating a low skill ceiling job.

TBH, their customer service metrics can only get better from this.

>>736771319
wonder why they don't use the app. I always thought mcdonalds was in the top of their game

>>736771641
This

It was inevitable even if the workers wanted a lower minimum wage

A machine will always cost less in the long run

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Thank god. Fast food cashiers are morons who can't get an order right as it is. And so many of them are stupid niggers. Only downside is that I heard these things are super slow.

>>736771319
Typical conservative reaction - blame the victim.

>>736772006
Then may I say RIP small businesses.

>>736772006
Yeah. Especially with energy and software becoming cheaper than wages. Electric bill too high? Install solar panels in the future. They'll get extra PR face for that too.

>>736771319
Well I'm surprised their food isn't made in a factory assembly line.

>>736772367
It will be, soon enough. It'll take time for the machines to take over, but mcdys is on the path.

>>736771641
Minimum wages accelerate the rate at which this happens. If equivalent hourly price of machines is going something like 25, 23, 21 and labor is going 10->15, it's going to happen sooner rather than later.

>>736771319
This shit has been in the works for fucking DECADES.

Soon a you'll just select the food you want on your phone, pay the company with the patent on the food, then it 3D prints and shoots straight into your fat fucking mouth.

>>736771319
most min wage job exist only because there is not a technology to replace them. there are AI systems in the works to replace customer service call centers, self-driving cars to replace taxis/couriers/truck drivers, etc. it not so much min wage is asking for more as it is the growth of technology. primary reason i'm learning to code

>>736772732
>Minimum wages accelerate the rate at which this happens

So?
Let's demand minimum wages of 50$ per hour so that the corporations are forced to replace every job by machines.

Nobody has to work anymore, tax the shit out of the corporations (worldwide - so that there are no tax havens)

>>736772906
lol

https://fossbytes.com/googles-ai-codes-own-machine-learning-software/

>>736773140
> voted for Bernie Sanders

I work for $14 an hour 10 hr days 4 days a week, no fucking faggot mcDonalds nigger drug addict should make 15 an hour especially if they dont work near as hard as I do

>>736771771
Because no one wants a MCDONALD'S app on their phone. It's tacky and gay. If you would have the NEED TO DOWNLOAD IT, then you should reconsider your life choices that led you to frequently make use of a McDonald's app.

>>736771319
Fuck them anyways, I ask for BBQ sauce with my mcnuggets and everytime i get sweet and sour.

>>736772216
Good luck getting arrested for trying to go off the grid, install solar and contribute to grid and get paid faggot

>>736771319
They would have done it anyway stupid. They still pay $7 here.

>>736772006
There will be a niche for human interaction if computers take over, people will migrate to said jobs nothing will change

I guess the real question we should be asking companies is: What are they going to do when there isnt enough people buying their shit because all low-tier jobs are fucking gone?

>>736771641
True, the upfront overhead cost of equipment lile that is easily absorbed for a massive corporatipn like McD, making the long term savings of lower payroll expense faster to realize.

>>736773776
that's when they push for govt funded universal wages

>>736773749
>a [small] niche for human interaction
>[millions of] people will migrate to said jobs

>implying
are you retarded

>>736773840
Well at that point they would pretty much just control the government more so then they already do. Communism, but with the companies in charge instead of the workers.

>>736773776
Well the funny thing is, min wage workers are the type of people that buy fast food.

>>736771319
>replacing workers FOR machines

Anon, if you worked for me I'd replace you with a houseplant

>>736774064

Cant really blame them when you can get a days worth of food off the dollar menu cheaper than ingredients from a grocery store.

I'm just wondering what took them so long. We've been ordering by touch screen computer at the cafeteria at my office for like 5 years.

>>736773410

so you think Warren Buffet works approximately 7 000 000 times harder than you?

>>736771319
If you are a wage slave in 2017 you are simply a placeholder for a robot that hasn't been implemented yet

>>736774280
Changes like this would eventually be rolled out at all locations if effective, they likely took time selecting proper seed stores in order to get reliable feedback information befor deciding to spend however many million it would take to retrofit McDs all over.

>>736774428
$50 says this guy is unemployed.

>>736772024
This^

At least I know when I order a double quarter pounder with cheese, xtra pickles, and no onions, it will get sent back to the kitchen as a souble quarter pounder with cheese, xtra pickles and no onions.

I can't tell you how many times a stupid cashier has fucked up an order because they "misheard" me or some bullshit like that.

Everyone say thank you to capitalism for being dumb as fucking shit.

no jobs means people dont get money which means they cant spend their money

>>736771449
Literally was going to post this.

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> low skilled labor will lose jobs
> only good cuz they shiat
> has zero knowledge of what AI can do
> tfw 80% of labor force loses jobs
> shaaait they stol me jobb i huv pHD wey

>>736774748
Thank Reaganomics.

Lets throw our money at the rich, because hording money isnt something the rich do.

>>736774748
the state does not need labor for economy to grow only labor output, which will be done by machines and AI, therefore people can be unemployed and live off machines as predicted before

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McDonalds is dying anyway.

Only a fool would eat that crap.

We need to kill some corporations and McDonalds is a good place to start. Put them out of business.

>>736774949
Actually, it really isn't, but a peasant like you wouldn't know anything about that. You're just mad you're not getting a free ride.

>>736771319
Let it happen! Let ALL jobs be replaced by robots! They will do the work while we get the rewards! I voted for trump, but I'll admit the future is undoubtedly socialist and that's fine. Just need the republican party there to make sure we don't run too fast into this robot thing and end up fucking shit up. It has to be slow: there is a LOT of change to be made until we have a future where none of us have to work, robots doing everything instead. It's really inevitable: with the advancement of robotics and technology, this sort of stuff will get cheaper and cheaper and more appetizing to corporations. And corporations are the biggest influence in what happens to the world, aside from governments.

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>>736771319
You realise that there are no examples of a minimum wage having anything but a positive effect on an economy where it's been tried?
Same goes for universal income

Stop sucking your corporate masters dick for once and imagine yourself in a better future

>>736775098
Name calling, a grade A way to disprove something.

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>>736771319
>>736771449
But I deserve $15/hour...

>>736775122
>aside from governments
but who pays the governments?

>>736774043
What could go wrong!

>>736775238
Taxpayers without shit jobs. But they're used to paying lazy fat asses who have genetic conditions.

>>736775238
the machine owners

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>>736771319
it's true?
Watches at $ 0?

>>736772024
736772024
yeah and the best part
less working niggers
more niggers in the streets that stab you and
take your bike

>>736774485
You're mostly correct, however I feel the need to point out that retrofitting the POS systems in every McDonald's in just the United States wouldn't be counted in millions, you're talking hundreds of millions, potentially billions in initial investment. Which is why they are careful about who gets it when, and testing it before full scale implementation.

Doing it on a world wide scale would most likely get into the tens of billions by the time the project is completed.

>>736775224
If it works for bottom-feeders like you, why shouldn't the rest of us do it too? Oh, that's right, you don't want a fair fight, you want to win automatically and get your trophy just for showing up. The rich don't get rich by hoarding money. They're not a bunch of Scrooge McDucks swimming in literal pools of cash. They get money and then BUY SHIT WITH IT THAT CONTINUES TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEM. Maybe if you experienced the real world through something other than the Internet and MTV, you'd have something resembling an informed opinion, but no, you'd rather drink the Kool-aid and sieg heil to anyone who will promise you something for nothing instead of grow up and earn your place.

>>736772878
Fuck that, too much work. Puree that shit and give me a double quarter pounder enema.

>>736775537
Ahem

The top 5 richest individuals on planet earth have the combined wealth of the bottom 51%

Yes, they Scrooge it to the max

>>736772532
one day none of us will have jobs
machines will do everything
and we wont have money to spend
and that day
the fucking corporations have had drained every last cent from us
and capitalism will finally be dead

>>736775235
It's just the cashiers getting replaced. The food will still get assembled by people and you will still get food that looks like that.

>>736771319
Communism will rise as a side effect of automation. It will come and all of us will learn to accept it.

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>>736775235
I'm sick of this shit. If you want cheese on the side, don't be surprised when someone takes it literally.

>>736775800
automation or communism?

>>736775537
The super rich are SO rich, that they literally CANNOT spend that money - as well as its tied up in offshore tax havens meaning if they ever used it, they'd lose it.
The rich are literally pulling a Scrooge mcduck you retarded gormaloid

>>736771319
nice, automation is good

Thanks Trump!!!111

>>736775873
dude
if eating mcdonalds were like licking the street clean
eating bk would be like diving in a sewer

>>736776026
More Robot Jobs
A Solar Panel Wall so Mexico doesn't have to pay a secret much

We all know how concerned Trump is with Mexicos plight.
Isn't that why you voted for him?

>>736775537
Uh huh, assumptions about a total stranger's life asside, and more name calling, and assumptions of spending habbits based on zero facts...

Well off families keep as much money as they can, and have the power to ensure they save that money. As an accountant, I see the spending habbits of dozens of snall businesses, and the millionares I work for are the ones that are slowest to pay their bills. Not because they can't pay, but because generally the wealthy are far stingier than normal society.

Ive refrained from insulting you, please return the favor in your doubtlessly incomong response.

>>736775857
Especially when your order is taken and made by a computer

>>736776044
yeah but, it's nice to change up the dietary trash sometimes.

honestly who even goes to mcdonalds anymore
except for landwhales, thats obvious

>>736775666
No, once they have full control, that's when your corporate overlords will tell you that now it's a GREAT IDEA for a guaranteed universal income(so that you can now spend it on their robot services)
And the retarded right will start singing that tune as if it's the only song they've ever sung.

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>>736771319
No, dumbass, this is what happens when a company gets fat and bloated on their profits for 50 years until people wise up and start eating healthier. They're still rich as fuck, but not AS rich as fuck, so this happens. Some board room guy thought this will help increase profits. Fuck McDonalds. Let em burn.

>>736775216
>You realise that there are no examples of a minimum wage having anything but a temporary positive effect on an economy where it's been tried?
I fixed it so you don't sound like a giant retard.

>>736776133
Faggot
Get the fuck off /b

>>736771319
i think if i could go back in time
id stop the monetary system from being invented
the world is sick
with greed

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America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, 'It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.' It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: 'if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?' There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand – glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

>>736776491
Great retort. I surrender, you've convinced me of your point.

>>736772066
When the victim is retarded. Yes, it is there problem for having a case of the downs. Doesn't mean we should have to put up with a system of the downs. Replace the stupid with machines... funny that the Same retards probably can't use the machines replacing their jobs.

>>736776389
nah, by then machines would have gained sentience
i think it would all go down like in animatrix

they would do this anyhow.

hope you all enjoy the rampant homelessness we have awaiting us in the future. i'm gonna laugh my ass off when AI comes around and starts running businesses better than any CEO can now. perhaps then they'll regret what they did.

>>736776435
They won't burn. So what if developed countries do not eat Mc Donald's anymore, they still have about 4 billions potential clients in developing countries

>>736776475
You're the retard my friend , ignoring the hard data.

Go on, please show where the introduction of minimum wages or universal income had a negative effect?
You have all of history and the entire globe to choose from.

Now, shall we count all the times capitalism has failed?

>>736776553
>America is the wealthiest nation on Earth
No
no, no, a thousand times no
do you happen to live under a fuckin rock?

>>736773575
WYD retard? Most areas that's not illegal. Adding to the grid costs 20k +- just to add the hardware to give power to the power company. Some places they won't even pay...

Lol this happened in Australia ages ago. BASED AUSTRALIA always one step ahead of the rest of the world.

>>736776133
Right, pretend to have insider information so you can claim to be right in spite of your assertion being absurd. Money sitting around does nothing. You're confusing the corporate wealthy with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Money is useless unless it's being utilized to either procure assets. Interest-bearing accounts only exist as a means to encourage the middle class to dump money into banks where they get pennies a year if anything, while the real wealthy are moving their money on a daily basis. A REAL accountant would know this. Stop trying to win by deceit.

>>736776502
Yeah have fun with that bartering system.

>>736774734
>souble
your post is so fuckin ironic.

>>736776491

Typical trumptard, no actual points just namecalling

>>736777068
>Money is useless unless it's being utilized
Now you're getting it faggot.

Now, of the few hundred billionaires there are on the planet (with a combined wealth of more than the majority of the planet combined) , how many of those billionaires saw their fortune spent and regained in the last year?

I think you'll find they stockpile money to an obscene level.
Rich people are detrimental to economies.
Sounds crazy I know...happens to be true

>>736777328
Typical republican

>>736775122
So technically saying, our life will be like internet?

>>736777398

That works too. Either way they're the bottom of the barrel

>>736771319
People could control whether McDonald's has success with these machines.
Just don't buy your food there and demand a human cashier.
But no. Sheeple, especially hipsters and liberals, will praise those machines....
It's not Macdonald's fault, it's society.

>>736777123
Just reinforce the idea that Usuary is a crime and that those people guilty of it should be put to death.
It's already written in the bible to do that, you just need to go back and convince Emperor Constantine that it should be a primary tennent of the faith

>>736776788
Much like 80s Eastern Europe, Cambodia, Cuba, North Korea, and 80s Soviet Russia thrived in socialism. China makes it successful through corruption, oppression, and cheap labor. Just research history, and open your mind.

>>736777350
You're making pretty big assumptions about people you dont even know. Also define 'rich'.

>>736777702
Hells yeah! Mcd's bots homie!

>>736777768
Lol

>>736777777

>>736777702
We're talking about the top 0.1%
They are richer than any king or emperor or despot in history.

>>736772146
Small business owner who fucking builds robots here;
I disagree.

>>736771449
> I, for one, welcome our polish prostitute overlords

The people in the back will be replaced soon enough. Enjoy going to a McDonalds where the only workers are there to maintain the machinery and hand out drinks (that are already filled automatically).
I am waiting for BK to do this because they do ALWAYS fuck up the order.
Buy a combo and they'll forget the fries? Come the fuck on!

>>736777685
Can you show that it was specifically the introduction of a universal income or increased minimum wage that was detrimental to those societies - and not say, corruption, as you have suggested?

>>736771319
Good.

We need more unemployed.

ass

>>736774734
Sorry, I misheard you. Try not to mumble.

>>736777956
>small business
>builds robots

What's your RnD budget compared to your 'big business' competitors?

I call bullshit on your premise

>>736771449
only thing I care about is if they can take my order correctly

>>736778037
why?
unless something is done about universal income as ai takes over, or the market adapts, you're just asking for a stupid marxist-driven revolution then we can all be equally poor.

I predict jobs will just change, rather than 'go away'
more artists, entertainers, etc

>>736777885
You are now aware that some of those people are the most charitable and largest funders of science. Carnegie built meusems

>>736773410
Most people work 40 hours a week and don't have 3 days off. You would also get a raise moron.

>work at mcdicks as dishwasher
>some fag licks a ice cream before giving it
>some fag drops a patty and still puts it in the order
>somefag bit a apple pie before giving it
>somefag spat on a mcflurry
I fucking hate my job

>>736778234
Because lots of people seem to be okay with it and I anticipate the hilarious outcome.

>>736778192
Probably better than real people, most of the people working there are assholes, they don't even give a fucking extra sauce

>>736778274
Were there a functional tax system in place, we wouldn't be beholden to the charitable whims of billionaires pet causes

>>736778234
>artists
We have literally thousands of those. We live in a time where literally most first world citizens can be an artist. And only a few of those make a good living off of it. Same with entertainers.

>>736771319
I'd rather do this than deal with the fucking monkeys at the cash register.

>>736775526
We need to invent soylent black.

>>736778359
>I anticipate the hilarious outcome.
from the comfort of your bedroom, sure.
but this is going to affect millions, perhaps billions, and the absolute last thing you would want are scavengers ransacking your place as a result of a populist uprising.

put that into perspective and try conjuring a rational opinion.

>>736771319
No, this is the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall

>>736776389
Universal basic income is a lib dream

we're all fucked anyway
have been since birth

>>736778234
>artists
they consider bitches like beyonce artists
>entertainers
we dont need actors to make movies anymore

its all going to hell, pal

>>736778501
That is what guns are for.

With your logic we might as well pay bums minimum wage too.

>>736778425
>We have literally thousands of those.
right, because for the first time in history we actually have a marketable demand for them, and it's going to increase.

here's going to be more of a demand as necessities/needs and even wants are fulfilled via AI. the common person will have more more time, more money to spend on other frivolous shit.

>>736778501
>billions

Poor people having more kids than they can afford. They get what's coming to them for not planning out their life.

>>736771319
sadly the only person dumber than a McDonald's cashier, will be the one person ahead of me in line completely confused by trying to use one of these self-order machines

>>736777350
The eternal rhetoric of the parasite. I'm sure you think you're a total internet badass right now, too, patting yourself on the back for your delusions of cleverness and ingenuity. I won't make such pretenses. I work in a home improvement store full-time, working way harder than a bunch of surly, stuck up part-time cashiers who expect more money for less work than I do every day. But here's the thing. I've met real economics majors. I've met real businessmen. Hell, I've met real "rich" people, the ones that run our company. What will they tell you?

NOBODY GETS RICH BY HOARDING MONEY. THEY GET RICH BY USING MONEY TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

>>736778384
and a machine cant spit in your food
who knows
without spit it might taste really good

>>736778648
no I never said that.
I said we should start talking about it AS ai takes over.

>>736778501
Muh 2nd amendment

>>736778653
They don't take breaks, they don't chimp out, they don't spit in your food and they steal.

Mad profits without minimum wage cunts.

>>736773140
Speak for yourself

>>736778782
don't steal *

>>736778174
My R&D budget was $1,000.
I bought a cheap as fuck 3d printer, a Raspberry pi 3, a Pi Zero W, and the required input-output components. Spent 4 months designing, coding and building, then started marketing among people in the region who might be interested and selling them discounted early prototypes for testing and feedback. 5 months later, paid a buddy to design me a quick website and started ad work on social media and among other local businesses; even did a little radio spot.

Sorry I'm a prick and won't go into detail about what the thing is. The moral of the story is that I knew jack shit about coding or robotics until I dived in, and found out that it's actually not that fucking complicated to automate things.

>>736771319
>ask for..
>still $7.25/hr
>still replacing

No this is the future. It only stops when you stop putting up with it. IDK about you guys but i'm not about to go to McDonald's and put up with some drama on a touch screen to order my shitty burger.

Same goes at like walmart grocery story. I'll pay more to go to the non shitty grocery store then put up with self check out of more then a few items

>>736778574
They tried in Canada in the 70's
A new government got in and cut its funding before all the data points could be scrutinised.

Turns out there wasn't a single area of society that had a negative outcome.
Fewer hospital visits, healthier population, increased productivity, more educated, less crime, less poverty.
The universal income program actually SAVED them money...of course, we're only learning this now that the data has been analysed.

There are vested interests who do not want a fairer, more equal society - because it would mean less power for them.
But keep cheerleading for the status quo - I'm sure your grandchildren will thank you from their hovels for your lack of vision and cowardice

>>736778387
Either way we get meusems. Also youre confusing tax system with the budget.

>>736774748
Exactly. Who do you think buys that food. Low wage earners that they are replacing

>>736773575
Why do you think he would get arrested, are you a retard?

>>736779020
How long did Canadas experiment last? What youre speaking of may just be the short run results, what are the results in the long run? Also did it account for any unintended consequences?

what if we all just died?
i know it sounds stupid and retarded, but consider the folllowing
what if...
we all just stopped existing
just one second youre there and the next one
poof! youre gone, stopped existing
no pain, no suffering, none of this crap
just silence
wouldnt it be nice?

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>>736778955
I'll take "Faggots who make things up to sound important" for $1000 Trebek.

>>736778345

>be manager at arbys
>see dumbshit worker look around to see if anyone is looking and spit on a guys order
>dumbshit worker did not notice i was watching
>puts order through.
>i carefully watch where that order goes
>ask the person who got said order to please wait
>ask dumbshit worker to walkoutside with me for a min.
>have customer come with
>pure look of horror on dumbshits face when i inform customer of what happened
>offer customer $50 in gift cards and i will personally remake his meal and give it to him free of charge
>fire guy on the spot
>cover for him until the night guy comes in.

As a manager you do not fuck around with retards doing stupid shit. you fire them and find another monkey who can cook fries and follow the instructions on how to build a burger.

Though i got to say when i hire a good looking younger female they go to front line cashier ASAP. Guys and ugly wimmins get drive up window and back line work.

>>736778703
No, money attracts money - like gravity.
The rich and powerful have used their wealth and influence to ensure it stays that way.
Once you have a large enough stockpile you literally cannot stop it from growing .

You have no idea just how rich the "rich" now are

I notice you failed to mention a single billionaire who invested his entire wealth on speculation.
Because there are no such people

And you claim I'M the one living in a fantasy
Oh the delicious irony

>>736771319
Fuck McDonald's and Disney

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>>736772732
Yeah, lets just eliminate the minimum wage to keep jobs for an extra 6 months, great plan

>>736771319
I'm going to laugh my ass off when people start fucking up their own order (and will still demand free food and/or a refund). New people do suck at cashier, I'll admit that; the turnover rate doesn't really help that, either. But I've been through these jobs, and I can tell you with actual experience outside of people's anecdotal stories that the public do the most retarded shit trying to order food. This is because what most people understand about the menu is from pretty pictured and words they see on the tv box. You think that's going to stop now that the public, who have barely half an idea how to get something other than their usuals, now makes the order themselves? If the cashier isn't retarded, at least they can piece together the context for whatever pig latin people try to order with.

Did taco bell for a while, and you wouldn't believe the sheer amount of people asking for the $5 box
Cool, which one? There's like 3.

Another thing the public doesn't get because they're not dealing with the menu all the time, is grouping group orders into meals (which saves money). Though, admittedly, that still requires someone who has half a clue what they're doing to catch it when people order all "loose" like this.

>>736779066
Because Tax and Budget are somehow seperate from the economy?!

Get your ass back to mars, you're clearly not living on planet earth

>>736779338
how hard is it to put a bottom bun, mayo, patty, lettuce, cheese, onions, tomatoes, ketchup, mustard, pickles, and top bun together in that order?

>>736779281
cool story bro. Heres a (you) for that pathetic fast food workin ass

>>736779437
Where did I imply that tax systems and budget were seperate from the economy?

>>736778174
>he thinks new market businesses require multimillion in capital

Bruh small scat bots and robos are like the new manufacturing in certain sectors. Take metal fabrication in the US for example. There are thousands of small businesses and some ulta large shitton scale as well. Shit can be low as fuck tech, or high as fuck tech. Small business is still in the game for a lot of things. They're truly different markets.

>>736779238
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mincome

>>736779479
>doesn't understand that's the exact reason they're working those jobs

My old man and I went through a drive-thru and got milkshakes one time, usually never eat that trash but wanted some shakes. We leave and get back on the highway, notice there's no straws.

I asked, "how fucking hard is it to put a straw in the bag?"

he answered, "Well, that's why they're working there"

not getting on those kids who need a summer job or whatever, but you get the point.

>>736779618
My cashier legit couldnt change once. Had to have the manager come help her.

>>736779281
The machines only replace the front cashiers jobs, the kitchen is still staffed by people. Im not sure what was the point of your little anecdote.

>>736778955
No one is going to fall for this, faggot.

>>736779696
This. + you can still order at the front if you really want to, or need assistance. It just cuts down on workers by a bit.

Actually go to one before freaking the fuck out like this is Y2K. kek

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>>736778490
Fuck no i aint eating that...

>>736778274
bullshit
the real 1% are the jewish families that own banks all around the world
they do no charity
they fund wars and profit from the misery of other nations
forbes list doesnt take royalty and these banking families into account on their lists
if you take those people into account, bill gates wouldnt even make into top10 of the richest people in the world

>>736779282
You know what? I'm walking out on this one. You're claiming I'm wrong on the basis of an extreme opposite example of your position. No one is ever going to be stupid enough to put their WHOLE fortune on speculation. You have no idea how money actually works, you're just spouting more anti-capitalist rhetoric and I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with an empty head. Nobody just gives a rich person money for no good reason, which is what you're pretty much claiming is the case. I'm sure you'll try and claim this as a victory for your so-called argument, but really it's just me calling this fight a waste of effort. Not sure why I even bothered getting into it, I should have known I would be up against a talking thumb. You're not worth disproving because you're going to ignore anything but what you want to hear and filter all responses through your preprogrammed shill filter. You're a tool, plain and simple.

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>>736779891
wew lad, here we go, the autists are in.

>>736779338
>Another thing the public doesn't get because they're not dealing with the menu all the time, is grouping group orders into meals
Thats by design. These kind of user mistakes make the business more money because customers end up paying more.

>>736779020
Bernie can still win right?

>>736773575
I live off the grid, as well as over half my neighborhood.
All wells, all solar power.
No one's been arrested
as a town we produce enough power to be self sustainable, and all of us have enough land to grow our crops
Kys retard...

Good. The cashiers at my local Mcd are illiterate mexican shit-filth anyways. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Also: it'll be fun watching niggers try to figure these things out, and fail hilariously.

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>>736780165
>Good thing those Mexican illegals won't work cashiers anymore
>White people handling your food get fired
>Cheaper mexicans replace them
>Now they handle your food instead of your money
kek

>>736779618
Your old man is also probably the kind that bitches about millenials.

Mistakes happen, dipshit. As far as you know, no straws could be the only slip up of the entire shift. Its indicative of fucking nothing. But shitting on an entire group of people over a mild inconvenience says a lot about a person.

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All of this is the first step toward automation of everything, a loss of untold numbers of jobs, and universal income. It will happen and we get to do what we want to do instead of wasting our lives at work. I can't wait to travel, rock climb, and surf all day.

>>736776867

Adding to the grid costs money where you are lol what? In the UK you get paid by the energy companies for 20 years to connect your solar (feed in tariff) and you're still using your own solar

>>736779479
Maybe it's time you take a break, me boy..

>>736779618
That's the thing. People experience "dumbshit forgot the straws, how hard is that?", but what's really going on is keeping perfect as can be track of orders, maybe bagging shit, getting all the extra shit, this order wants this or that sauce, gotta get that changBEEP BEEP another order, gotta get that change out so you can't take that ord BEEP BEEP. Well shit, now there's two bags which one did the kitchen put up here first, better ask thBEEP BEEP. Fuck it, get change now. Here's your BEEP BEEP, and the sauce.
Sorry about the wait, what would you like to order?
> its alr g t I'll ta a doub ex ra with no so cr???, I'm allergic.
And don't forget to smile! Except if you do while all this shit is going on, you just look like a jackass. But if you don't constantly smile, your managers bitch at you.

Also a lot of placed will have you watch two positions at once, lile drive and front counter. That's a fun combo. BEEP BEEP

>>736780287
kek, read the last line, I get it that some of them are just kids and shit happens. Relax your shit bro, his point had nothing to do with generations.

>inb4 you're a sous chef at Wendys

>>736779999
Superb quads.

Bernie would never be allowed to win. If he looked like he was gonna win, he would be assassinated or they would find some pretext to cancel the election.

We are so screwed. Voting doesn't work. Rioting will.

>>736780287
I agree. It's poor logic to say I went to x and had a bad experience. Therefore x is always bad.

>>736780396
The U.S. state of Oklahoma has outlawed solar use by individuals.

>>736780455
I agree but most of that comes down to the manager and how organized his staff is, even during rush hour. Obviously shit will happen, like in any business, but people shouldn't expect much from any worker that's at the bottom of their respective field.

A good example is sweepers if you've ever been on a worksite. Those fuckin' kids grind, obviously, but damn do they slack at time.

>>736779891
Kock bros are Jewish? Wow. I had no idea Cecil Rhodes was also Jewish. The things one learns on the internet.

>>736779696

At some places it would be well worth it to have some hot teenager with a uniform shirt that has half her tits hanging out in place of a machine to take the order.

>>736779618
I see where he is coming from, but my first thoughts to that are

> Why don't I have some kind of backup utensil in my car anyways

or

> Do I actually need a fucking straw, maybe I can just drink it

or

> am i really so petty that i judge someone's entire character based on a utensil

so i kinda think, while yes, it's a simple job, we've also been somewhat brainwashed to expect little to no inconveniences in American culture because of instant gratification. a lot of businesses' entire marketing schemes are promises of convenience and ease... think department stores in the 50s.

convenience being marketable slowly became a requirement for all other businesses. because humans eat that shit up. literally.

>>736780327
The powers that be have a good flu variant that will take out those useless eaters.

>>736780663
We didn't need the straws like you said, or would even think of going back to complain. He shrugged it off and didn't really care, but what he said stuck with me.

Trust me, I'd never be the one in those places giving those peoples shit when the truth is, yeah, they're working hard and what's the point of freaking out.

It just stuck with me because I think he implied, if someone isn't getting paid what they feel they deserve, don't expect them to break their backs for you. In other words, if some kid in there was offered 50/hr with the responsibility of never fucking up, then we'd have the right to be pissed.

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>>736780663

>Why don't I have some kind of backup utensil in my car anyways

>>736771319
This was going to happen regardless you fucking tool.

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>>736771319
The good thing about this is it will dramatically cut down the number of niggers visiting McDees. Perhaps McD is on the right track serving higher-end burgers and automating the ordering process and all the niggers will migrate to Burger King! This is a good thing in the long term.

>>736780690
You're assuming only the poor and stupid will be out of a job. No. Automation will take out the middle class as well. Software is already replacing lawyers and doctors. No one will have a job. They obviously can't kill 98 percent of the population. So it will be universal basic income.

Automation kills more jobs than regulation.

>>736781017
>implying black people won't still be able to order for some reason
>higher-end burgers
kek

>>736779979
True. It would be easy for them to tag certain items as meal "parts" and do some kind of if statement to autogroup if all tags in a class are present.

One thing that still makes me laugh
When I was at taco bell, admittedly I was high every day, which just makes this better.
> someone comes in and pays with a 50
> I'm half paying attention and press the $20 preset button
> I see my mistake, and spend 2 seconds doing 2rd grade arithmetic and grab the correct change
> bitch of a customer insists I get a manager to do it
> I kind of just chuckle a little and say I can do math better than them, but I'll get them anyway (they also got mad at this for some reason)
> manager uses a calculator
> fucking calculator to do basic subtraction
> Comes out to exactly what I said.
I know she did that just because of stereotypes and maybe had some mistake(s) happen in the past, but I swear customers do the most retarded shit sometimes.

prepare to embrace the enslavement of the 99% guys. its a bleak future with capitalism. ex dee

>>736776867
Youre a fucking retard.
You can get 21 panels and the inverter to feed the grid for less than half that price in AU$.
Stop talking shit

>>736781229

But if the %99 have nothing. then they have nothing for the %1 to take.

>>736781170
So, you hit the $20 preset and fuck it up, then chuckle at the fact that she asks for the manager? If you can't hit a button properly, why would she trust you do be able to do basic math without a calculator? Fucking kek

>>736779694
depends on what you mean, sometimes there just isn't right chance so they hsve to ask the manager for change..

happens when people buy like 2 drinks with a 50 bill, drain your change really fast..

>>736781229
I just steal from the other 99% until my % goes up.

>>736777350
You do realise that those billionaires don't actually have billions of dollars in a bank account right?
It's a net worth and is mostly tied up in assets like businesses and such

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>>736777566

I say it will be just 24-36 Hours after these machines are installed that some nigger will walk into a McD someplace and bashes the touchscreen with a hammer, rendering it useless with one blow. All these touch screens are LCD's which are very easily destroyed with one good blow from a hammer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoR520qig0

2:14

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>>736777566
>calls other hipsters
>uses the word Sheeple
>blames society

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>>736781453

>>736771319
Amazing news
These already exist, like 10% of European McDonald's has been running these for like 3 years or so now

>>736781368
> its really hard to add $30 to the change
> implying pressing a wrong button has anything to do with the actual math
I even said what the change was, they can see the total on the little text screen. I get why they thought it would have been a smoother process, even said that in my post if you had actually read it. But it wasn't, and they ended up being a jackass.

>>736781833
>implying the ability to press a button doesn't coincide with the ability to do another basic task
Really? How can you not connect the two.

>>736782125
Because they're not the same task. One is identifying (which I fixed/didn't do math based on the wrong number)
One is the actual math.
Even if I didn't get both of them correct, they use different parts of the brain.
But sure, in most cases, one means both. I do get that. It's just a frustrating but funny story.

Alright. So, as a lower wage worker that lives in a state thjat recently raised the minimum wage [and its slated to go up 50% over the original of $8.35 over the next 3 years] i was rather livid that all these uneducated fucks voted for something that, in the long run, will make EVERYTHING more expensive.
The idea that distributing the wealth to others is a good idea is bullshiit.
I've spent a good portion of my life working out of kitchens, everything from some shitty 2-star cajun crawdadfest to brewpubs, to fast food, and even one of those really hoity toity 5-star resort restaurants that charge 70 bucks a plate and give you half the portions. Earilier this thread someone was saying to give an example of how this affects people negatively. Let me shed a little light on this for you.
Increasing minimum wage doesnt help the economy, i learned this in fucking 6th grade... More money means our currency is worth less, therefore the cost of importing goods goes up. as a result of that the cost of manufacturing goes up. in order to keep the same profit margin up, the cost of all goods goes up too. This covers everything from the food you get in your grocery stores, to whatever shitey video games you play. heres another effect it has. You work in a place for 10 years, you're making 6.25 to start, and it stays that way slowly going up my 10-15% per year. eventually you're making 10 bucks an hour and running the line. this new increase comes into effect, and suddenly the dishwasher who literally stands there as you're trying to run a fucking restaurant is making the same amount as you. he's been there 2 months. How in the fuck does it make sense that someone who clawed their way up to head chef, went to fucknig culinary school, is making the same amount of money as the shitey dishwasher who cant even clean a pan properly and uses steel wool on the nonsticks, makes only 50 cents less than you per hour?

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>>736782531
It's funny because you actually believe you were in the right here. Lets review this shit. >>736781170

Customer comes in, you admit to half-paying attention when they make there order so you fuck up. You fix the mistake, fine, but then they ask you for the manager and what do you do? You chuckle at the customer, say some fucking unnecessary autistic remark "I can do math better than them, but I'll get them anyway" and then wonder why they're annoyed with you? >

>Some little fuck cashier who just fucked things up for me, just chuckled at me when I asked them to get the manager and basically said "You're stupid because I do it better than them"

In all honesty kid, you're lucky you didn't get fired and if you think I'm exaggerating, try working for a bigger company, fucking up a clients order, then basically laughing at them when they ask for your manager. See how the blows over, especially when you're a replaceable asset.

Like I said, the fact that you think you're in the right here is just fucking laughable. Maximum Kek.

Oh, btw, little tip for ordering at taco bell. If you want stuff added for free, ask for "light"or "easy X on it. Doesnt matter what it is, meat, pico, sour, whatever. If it's a quantifiable thing (i.e. not like adding a shell, but sauce or tomatoes), it will ring up with no extra charge. This is because the "easy" function was made assuming the item already has the item. I don't know if it will work everywhere, idk if they'll let you, or that a newbie won't ask a manager of you're allowed or not. But give it a shot. Most likely, they won't give a shit and just send it through. It's an entirely valid order to make.

>>736771319
Good. We've had these machines along with cashiers for a while now and i refuse to go to the counter and wait for some barely functioning highschooler to try and take my order.

The machine never gets my order wrong and sends it to the kitchen as fast as i can select what i want.

>>736783029
But does the machine tell you that you're looking quite beautiful this evening?

>>736780659
AKA the Hooters Business Model.
Real tits beat robot tits everytime.
My local Chinese takeout knows what's up - the kinda chubby but cute second generation (with added Western privilege confidence and English skills) 19-year old daughter in a tight t-shirt takes orders on the desk - not fucking gramps or grandma or the parents - they are too growly and shouty and ugly so stick them in the back.

(Chris Rock used to get stuck in the back of a takeout place scrubbing shrimp, and as he said - 'if you don't like the look of the people up front, you don't wanna see the people out back!)

>>736774428
Never heard a better way to say it

>>736775526
Or mor 'gud bois dundunuffin' shooting each other and fixing the problem for everyone.

>>736772006
self order maschines cost a lot for the company, and someone musst clean it ;)

>>736782799
If you would be so kind, take your almighty dollar and roll it up. Please then proceed to place the previously mentionex dollar up your ass. Thank you.

>>736771641
less money for worker, less money they spend on shiti murica products, less money for the company..

Why is there so many corporate cocksuckers on 4chan lately?

>>736783611
ill do it, but only if you post tits, man or woman, i dont care. you offer no retort, you offer no argument, here's your pity (you).

>>736772066
animals are not retarded... Companies can spend more money on good employer, who sell more food. Every american needs minimum 2-3 burger per day, so they don't need sell more "food"

>>736782861
> But sure, in most cases, one means both. I do get that. It's just a frustrating but funny story.
You can't read, can you? Why are you just skimming and reacting?

What's funny is that because I was comfortable with the public, I was one of the best people they had for dealing with the front counter. After I left, someone told me most of the regulars were asking me where I was l. Most people that went there knew I knew what I was doing. The managers knew this.

Tell me something, what's the difference between asking for a manager assuming the change would be wrong, or asking for a manager IF the change was wrong?
Logically, they take the same amount of time, but by assuming, they ended up not only selfishly holding up the line, but holding back their own order from being sent through to the kitchen.
That's what's funny about it. But again, for the third time, I get where they thought it would have been better their way.

Keep in mind that it doesn't matter what tender amount I put in at all. I could put a billion dollars, and as long as I give correct change, the customer is good, and the drawer count is good.

Also
> implying I would treat clients and "client" customers the same way
Time and place my nigga.

>>736777984
So free food for everyone then.
Sounds good

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>>736784236
What you don't understand is, it doesn't matter how logically this or that is when you're in that position. If the customer asks for that, no matter how illogical it is, especially when dealing with their money, you shut your little mouth and do it. Like for fuck sakes, the self-entitlement on you little fucks these days is hilarious.

and again, laughable you think you're in the right here, especially if you read it over.

>After I left, someone told me most of the regulars were asking me where I was l
this also made me kek

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Hello all I am from NYC. Burger King has had these for over a year and you can watch people walk up to the order kiosk then nope right over to human cashiers all day. It's in a middle class area where nobody wants to do the beep boop booping and especially in this neighborhood people want things done for them as much as possible. Anybody that has worked cashier for a day at any job can understand these kiosks cannot replace human cashiers. Lastly just like self checkout at dept stores, they would need a babysitter.

>>736784638
While I don't think they can replace them outright, it's def possible for them to create a 50/50 ratio. I've seen them work pretty well in most places, especially if counter workspace is a concern (For orders/pickups)

>>736771319
That's what happens when big corperations run a country. No justice, no social equality, no human rights, just profits.
I'm just wating for the inevitable culling of the population by homeland security stormtroopers.

I so pity you yanks.

>>736773410
Four days a week? Fuck are you, a communist?

>>736784720
Chipotle uses the order online before arriving feature and it is a better strategy in every way btw

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>>736773410
>10 hr days 4 days a week
>work hard
pick one

>>736784549
Hue, struck a nerve did I?
>I'm being entitled even though someone else is wasting not only their own time, but that of everyone behind them in line.
Please tell me how this makes sense.

>>736785330
Yeah, I've seen a lot of places stray from this though because people can just order shit and not even show up... If it's in store it's less likely to be bullshit, although still possible

robots will take over everything there will be no jobs left for humans. everyone will be like us just sit front of a computer and be autistic. yay for the the future.

>>736785424
They're the paying customer little boy, they can waste anyone's time if they damn well please. If you hit the right button in the first place, which you admitted you weren't paying attention to, none of this would've happened.

There's a reason there's lines at banks too, so mistakes don't get made.

Jesus fucking kek

>>736771319
Min wage never went up and they were still replaced you goddamn mongoloid

Like them asking for more money didn't change the fact that a machine costs less to run than paying minimum wage. It was going to happen and I really hope it happens to you next

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>>736771319
fucking finally!

>>736779961
bloom pointing*

>>736771319
But nigger lifes matter!

>>736785458
The system that we had at taco bell was kind of annoying. The online orders didn't even show up until someone pressed "special orders" or something on a terminal, so the person still had to show up and say they have an online order. Saved time for them ordering, but it was more just clumsy than anything.

>>736785598
> ad hominem & ad nauseoum
I half pay attention to everything. And I also "admitted" to catching the mistake before I ever even made the change. Sorry you think basic arithmetic is hard to do. Seems you'd rather waste the time of everyone around you just for the chance to feel superior and smig. And you go and project that "entitlement" on me?

Everyone after her was pretty nice, though. I actually didn't mind dealing with the public at all for some reason, even her. I still leave at the end of the day and get a paycheck. It was just a funny story. Why are you so keen on trying to fumble some point out?

>>736786373
lel

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>>736786386
fucking kek, you're a lost cause.
>>736782861
Everything here is valid unless you're 12. I'm done arguing with an autstic kid.

>>736785598
not that guy, but seriously how fucking naive can you get
Let me retell this story as the guy behind said prissy fuck.
>Go to taco bell
>Busy as fuck in there
>LAdy in front of me orders a couple things that come out to around 15 bucks
>Hands the casheir a fifty
>Machine says 5 bucks in change
>Whoops, employee messed up and immediately tries to fix the issue
>Customer sees an opportunity to try and get free food, dispite his polite apology and accurate math [which she apparently cant do... its elementary school arithmatic...]
>Lady doesnt believe the casheir is smart enough to do a simple task a 7 year old can.
>Demands to see manager
>Employee chuckles a bit, understandably
>Been next in this queue for a few minutes, only angry at dumbass in front of me
>Manager comes and pulls out a calculator to prove he's done the math right, and her order gets sent through
>finally order
>takes one minute
>Casheir is stoned but not so stupid he's incapable of doing shit.
>smile and walk away with my tacos, as long as my orders not fucked up and i get the right change, i don't give a fuck, these guys are making my food for me so i don't have to, despite the fact its mediocre assembly line tacos.

I honest lysee no way this anon was acting entitled, get off your fucking high horse.

>>736771319
>This is what happens when technology exists
fixed

>>736783577
i don't think you realise how expensive human staff is for a company lol

>>736771319
I like the machines tbh, it's faster, better and more comfortable.

Kek Liberals BTFO

>>736786658
>let me retell the story with different facts

see>>736781170
then >>736782861

The autism in here is just fucking classic. Now I'm really out, peace.

>>736771319
then no more mcdonalds for me.

>>736773441
easy there, grandpa

>>736786847
yes it is, the idea is that this is how a normal person would see this unfold, not some nignog who thinks he's better than everyone else. i read the posts i dont need you to remind me.
Leave and never return faggot.

Zero day exploit free food when?

>>736771319
FINALLY

now i only need rubber gloves instead of godlike patience to order at mcd

i'll miss the occasional hotties behind the counter though
you could stare at their teen tits and they wouldn't notice because they're so busy

>>736787028
and yes, i came up with some random numbers... do you have any idea how much food you need to order to have a 15 dollar bill at taco bell? spoiler, it's more than most people can eat by themselves.

>>736786972
lol

>>736787104
u read my mind

>>736781453
>I say it will be just 24-36 Hours after these cashiers are hired that some nigger will walk into a McD someplace and bashes their sculls with a hammer, rendering them useless with one blow. All these cashiers are people which are very easily killed with one good blow from a hammer.

>>736777350
holy fuckin shill thread look at these responses

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>>736787815
no, i'm an athlete.

>>736787869
i know, why do people suck rich peoples cocks so hard

pathetic

we finally have a respectable thread about burger franchises and their employees
and the fucking wendys chef that get 8.75 bucks an hour is nowhere to be found

>Former or current employees will break the machines constantly

>>736771319

this is a progress trap.

>>736788386
personally i cant wait for universal basic income
i can finally start my artist career without living on the streets

>>736781037
>obviously

Why obviously?

>>736788481
>universal basic income

first you'll have to riot for it. the rich wont give up their claims by peaceful means.

>>736788566
not required, we've got competent politicians
a regional real-life test of UBI is already scheduled to start soon

>>736771319
I love posts made by people who have no clue how shit works

>>736787059
Close, read this. >>736782980

I dunno how to feel about it. The machines work great for what they're supposed to do.

As for as $15/hr argument... I make substantially more than that and I can't help feel like simply raising minimum wage erodes my income. I'm not going to get a raise to match their increase and the associated rise in cost.

I guess i'm just a greedy prick? 1st world problems.

>>736788934
>most americans work for shit wages

what else is new
lrn2unions

>>736773170
I wouldn't think much of it Google maps isn't even functional anymore

>>736788796
You mean welfare? Where they record every intimate detail of your life?

That already exists, actually. Just now you get government incentives for bionic grafts and implants?

>buy supermagnet
>fuck up machines
>get my job back

simple as that

>>736786565
>Maybe if I say kek in all my replies I won't look like a newfag

>>736789357
>tell mcdicks you're gonna do this
>steal resulting faraday, carbon fiber, super AI
>dystopian steampunk future

Please?

They did that in my country years ago. People just work more important jobs, who wants to be in mcDonalds.

>>736789339
>You mean welfare? Where they record every intimate detail of your life?
no. i mean universal basic income. can you read?

> record every intimate detail of your life
it's conditionless so no need for private details.
despite that, where the hell do you live, fucking china?

Logical: we all get surrogate lives to continue advancing technology, increase quality of life, and prevent singularity

Actual: fucking rich people

>>736790549
Sounds like the employees

Capitalism https://youtu.be/v9cLR7FHon4

>>736771319
They have these here where I live. I tried it, all I wanted was a large fri, 2 fucking burgers with ketchup only and a sweet tea. . .it was so annoying that I just stopped and went to the register. Th day they make it as easy as the register then you worry. you know how annoying build a burger is for McDonalds?

>>736783743
You are assuming that their employees also make up a sizeable portion of their consumer base which is not necessarily true. These companies employ large teams of mathematicians whose sole job it is to work out how these decisions will impact the bottom line so I guarantee this is something they have thought through.

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ITT: anons have more marketing and economic experience/knowledge than the minds of people running an international super company

>>736771319
we have this in sveden. its a sulution to the problem of not having enough personel to serve all customes but not being able to squeese anymore behind the counter couse its a full capacity

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>>736791800
Max burger. ayyyy

>>736775857
How exactly does a burger with cheese in the side looks like?

>>736792280
>get burger
>show cheese on side of the bun/burger
>melt under heat lamp
>cheese on the side
>????
>profit

>>736773441
True

>>736780575
>implying Oklahoma knows anything about technology
Don't you faggots have turf wars with the Amish or something?

>driving to work on a dirt road
>stop to wait for animals to cross
>Amish Mafioso pulls up next to you revving his horse
>rev your engine back
>right before the animals move he pulls out a musket and shoots you
>goes to your house and smashes all your tech and then your wife

>>736775084
True there food is starting to taste like shit specially there nuggets

>>736784638
I fucking hate those self checkout things. I always have something that requires an employee to come input a code for me to continue. Then I have to wait while that employee finishes helping the other people that don't know how to use them.

and then if I buy a video game, I'm fucked.

>>736792371
Well wtf is the diffrence

>>736771449
You can always have job, who gonna clean this machine or fix it?

>>736773140
>Nobody has to work anymore, tax the shit out of the corporations (worldwide - so that there are no tax havens)
>And clean water, and no war, and no religion, too.
>Eliminate greed and poverty while we're at it.
Get bent, you naive faggot.

well at least you wont have some crackhead nigriss in front of you going "da ckikuns be crunchy? wha da bread bes? I only has 77 cent can ise get jus one big mac?

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fuck mcdonalds

>>736793777
>2017
>not asking da chickens be crunchy
rancid swine

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>>736775084
Live in UK kebab is better

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>>736793889
da chikuns be crunchy?

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Automation is replacing so many jobs, that a point is going to come where we ask ourselves that if almost no jobs are attainable for the average person, why should someone need a job in order to live?

The arguments over that question are not going to be pretty, I think.

>>736772066
Typical liberal reaction play the victim

>>736779020
Yeah! Idiots are conservative. They want to keep a primitive system and not create a better world.