Whats the earliest age you think a child is aware that someone

>>736472662
10 and 14ish

>>736472662
Id say in the middle around 10 but my nigga beside me say 8

>>736472662
STOP IT NOW MISTER PEDO ITS THE FBI

>>736472903
can someone post the greentext with the dildos hanging from the ceiling and the guy yelling at the end "YOUR TURN MISTER LAWMAN"

A friend of mine, she start at 8 years old, with hers babysitter 18 years old boy

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coming from personal experience i think its if this type of interaction has been exposed to one.
I rememver my brother having sex with me like it was a game when i was around 5 then i started wanting to see women naked a lot and i even undressed a few sleeping baby sitters
it can be around 7 if they were conditioned like i was

>>736472662

10

>>736472662
>not a pedo just need to prove a friend wrong
Well isnt that what a pedo would say?
You've pushed your luck too far this time, mister pedo, the internet has a new gang of vigilantes.

Depends

I love the "kids these days" crap. Plato is the first recorded example of someone claiming that and he was saying that shit 2500 years ago..

I personally was about 8 or so when I had my first orgasm. Nothing came out but I vividly remember the whole experience. This was almost 30 years ago.

>>736472662
fucked up question to ask, OP.

>>736472662
Pedophile circle jerk. Go die somewhere.

>>736473319
what did plato say?

>>736472662
I think it takes some time for them to actually know when someone else is interested, but they pretty much show interest very early on, but the interest isn't necessarily purely sexual in the strictest sense of the word, but once they're around 8 or 9, I believe they already know what they're doing when they get a boner or when they touch another kid's genitals.

They probably know something even earlier than that, but I don't think it becomes actually sexual until around 8 or 9. After that I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing when they intentionally touch somebody else's genitals.

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>>736473031
this one?
google, man.

>>736472662
Idk man I'm 28 and I still can't tell if someone is sexually interested in me.

>>736473693
Yes this is the one

>>736473586
: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

-Plato attributed to Socrates

The ancient world equivalent of the OP's statement about "kids nowadays".

>>736473739
this lol, 27tho

>>736472662
MOOOOOOODS

>>736473975
newfag

>>736473894
nice. thanks.

>>736473894
Jesus, it sounds like he was describing baby boomers.

The problem is you don't know what sexual means.

If you did, you'd know it's as soon as they are born.

All is sexual; sex is the purpose of human life, especially when we view the forces at play within us in the context of evolution and general animal development.

That said, at the same time, nothing is sexual and everything is just energy which our bodies direct in certain directions as we develop. This development aims to give us a normal, heterosexual drive. But we can become anything, and what is moral is not the same as what evolution seems to have aimed for us to become. This means being gay or bisexual, though not "intended" by nature, is in no way immoral due to not being the "design" of nature.

But to create a bridge in your mind, maybe, I'll say this: children think nothing negative about sex until their parents instill a negativity about it in their minds. If the parents don't, then they have to teach their children solidarity and integrity; otherwise society will corrupt the innocence in them.

tl;dr your definitions of innocence and sexuality need to be uprooted

>>736472662
Doesn't apply to everyone but I was very sexually aware by age four.

>>736472662
I wish I knew the psychology of getting a girl to want to have sex with me. At the very least I want to know how to get them to willingly give me a BJ.

>>736475409
So I guess it really isn't traumatizing to kids when being molested or having sex with an adult if they're not taught that it's bad.

>>736472662
We are interested in the other gender's genitals as soon as age 5-6, without realizing it's "sexual". Same age. Grown up genitals are gross. Porn is not doing anything.

Sexuality, and the actual intent to do something sexual comes into play no sooner than 10-11 years of age.

Source: personal experience.

>>736475605
same I was jerking of at 3 and pretty much always aware of sex, it just fucking depends on how and who the fuck is raising you

>>736475952

Wrong. Review the statements of mine which you refer to, then assess your logic.

"... dark continent ...

because of the stigma attached to it.

The information you and your culture have is so limited that your understanding is mostly an interpretation which your imaginations fill in ...

... and your culture, your civilization, enforces its ideas of something which would, indeed, otherwise disrupt it and change it forever.

But look forward. Change is inevitable, just as we see technology improving with passing years.

Language, religion, cultures, governments ...

... are technologies."

- jellyfish

>>736476293
But it's not harmful to them is you make relaxing, fun and if they trust you.

I think 14 should be the age of consent. Thoughts?

>>736477058
Get it in your sick fucking head that THEY DO NOT WANT YOUR GROWN UP DICK NEAR THEM! Every fucking experimentation they actually WANT to do involves someone else THEIR age!

I was sexually excited at 4 once my brother(9) helped me learn that rubbing my clit felt really good, masturbated basically every day since

>>736477176
That's not really a true statement, I was interested in boys and their dicks by the time I was 7 at most, and it certainly wasn't just boys my own age
>>736477208
is me

>>736477176
Now that's some grade A BS. They eager to please adults and they know little to nothing about sex. If done right, they can have a really good experience.

>>736472662
Really young, I was in kindergarten when I had my first crush and I was EXTREMELY curious about females then too

>>736477318

>>736477577
Preach! Kids sometimes are sexually attracted to adults. I know I was when I was little.

>>736477058

With those conditions, they will not be harmed in the short-term. But in the long-term, they will have to have inner strength to know that they are not terrible people and that their parents are not terrible people, because that's what society will try to convince them of in order to eradicate the behavior and attitude.

>>736477176

Children are sponges. They absorb what you put on them. Most parents will nip the sexual interest of children to adults (which is first directed to the parents, and therefore a very personal matter) in the bud. Girls and boys go on to develop somewhat differently after this event, but both experience a lull in sexual development.

This lull in sexual development is sorta unique to humans.

>>736472662
After they hit puberty and become aware of what sex is.

With me and my step cousins, it was about 7 when we started "sleeping over"

>>736477661
This is why I think the age of consent should be much much lower.

>>736477813
What did guys do to each other???

>>736477741

You mean after they hit puberty, become horny, and learn from their friends how to objectify the opposite sex.

you don't need to hit puberty to feel horny, I was a very horny 5 year old girl.

Kids are HOT!!! There, I said it. I don't think there's anything wrong with kids and adults have good hot sexual fun. So long as the kid is willing.

>>736474171

newfag

>>736476067

Yeah, well I was jerking my massive hard dick at the ripe old age of 2.

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>>736478206
OH MY GOD!

>>736477960
Well because we had "Cinemax afterdark" at my gmas, we recreated what we saw. I wold lick her pussy ask she would lick my dig as we didnt now she was supposed to suck. from there we found out what holes i was supposed to stick it in as she would say ouch when I tried it in her butt.

When girls start having periods is around when thet start getting sexual understanding. Not sure about dudes

>>736473894
Kids sure love to chatter.

>>736478206
MODS!

>>736478403
That's bullshit, you can figure out touching yourself feels good before gradeschool

>>736478403

lol wake the fuck up. Read some of the rest of this thread.

>>736478206
That's so damn true! But I don't think kids know how hot they are. How much desired they are.

>>736478494
Yes but op is asking about sexual understanding in shit like flirting and such.
You think some preschooler knows that you're flirting with her/him

>>736473894
Neither Plato nor Socrates said it. It's actually a quote from a play by Aristophanes.

>>736472662
8/9 for guys a little later

i remember when i was 8 and my cousins did "that", we didn't know exactly what it was, but saw it on tv and thought it was naughty

>>736472662
I would say age has nothing to do with it. Upbringing does if they have 2 parents attentive they may not notice that till 10 to 14. Single parent and 2 none attentive parents i would say they could catch on to that as low as 6. They can learn a lot more than they should from the internet and tv.

>>736478873
I had kids in kindergarten flirt with me and try to be my valentine and want to kiss.

>>736478834

I think if you smile at them with a full, loving, meaningful smile, they will instantly know and be drawn to you.

You could say they have a special sense for it. They can tell you're an adult that has an interest in them that stands out from the other adults.

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>>736472662

its different for everyone.

Depends on hormones and external stimuli.

External stimuli due to exposure to indecent or borderline sexually inclining imagery (which can be very bad for young children since you are exposing someone to something that the brain doesn't know how to properly respond to).

> Basically girl usually can be between 12 to 15 years old, first it will depend on period and sexual self awareness.

But it can be younger since some culture exposes children to external stimuli that can affect this development. Usually coming from a society with high poverty early marriage will be normalize in order to reduce the family burden of feeding extra mouths.

But the pedo narrative will always be wrong, because even if younger marriage would be legalize the social burden would be increase and pedo being pedo will use and abuse. Since Pedophilia is a unnatural state of mind which rejects the idea of loving someone older always seeking the younger (the very very young), family grown around it would have high divorce rate, possibly a high level of abuse and possibly death due to a young body being pregnant.

> If your a pedo seek help.

>>736478873

You're using the lens which I described here

>>736477978

That's the lens which, unfortunately, most of us grow up with.

>>736479203
But do they care about looks When it comes to them being attracted to an adult?

>>736479236
I have to strongly disagree. Some pedos would not abuse and take good care of their child bride. There is nothing with sexually attracted to little ones. we don't need help. It's perfectly normal to be attracted to someone younger.

>>736479438

I would say hygiene and caring about how you look are important.

The way you carry yourself and your confidence, as well as your generosity and kindness (treating girls like princesses, communicating respectfully, openly, and honestly, etc.) are more important than looks.

Nothing that you can't learn in small but directed steps. To know the direction, search your dreams. To have the motivation, listen to your heart.

I'd say 10. At least that's when me and my girlfriend at the time would fool around. Never actually fucked until we were 13 tho.

>>736479848
So in others don't come off creepy

>>736479236

try reading this thread. I think you'll like it.

>>736479750
It mentally and physically harms children. You are mentally ill. Pedos are not normal and not ok. This push to normalize it is horrific.

>>736480050
How does it mentally harms them if ease them into it to where it's fun and safe?

>>736480015

Yes.

Take heart, anon!

If you think you'd have a hard time learning to be not creepy, remember this:

Great conviction precedes great action!

Know your heart!

If you grasp how awesome the goal is, the journey WILL happen : )

>>736480169
You mean grooming? Yeah it still fucks them up and leaves them feeling messed up and wrong for the rest of their lives.
You are predatory scum.

If sex was made illegal with anybody over the age of 13, cancer would cease to exist in 45 years by closing the window for epigenetic damage to accumulate.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1bZEUgqVI

>>736480050

This is not a push to normalize. Not trying to push you.

Sorry if we made you think that.

We're perhaps just a little too enthusiastic right now because in this thread we all came out and shared love with one another.

We feel we are with friends, which is not a feeling we have very often. Er -- you know what I mean.

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>>736480169

Sorry but i have known 2 girls who have been convinced into sexual acts when they were 9 and another 10. Each of them were psychologically unstable in their teens and they were prone to self destructive behavior.

> They also disliked men complimenting them because of the abusers.

> Children cannot consent to something they don't fully understand. Even if they were thought gradually they will still suffer psychologically or they will repress the memory only for them to resurface later in the future.

Your argument is invalid.

>>736480332
I'm learning a lot from. Any more advice?

>>736480622
They may happen to some kids, but only very few.

Is cancer a fair price to pay for the morality of preserving innocence?

>>736480489
Your opinion ≠ Actual fact

Forcing a child to do something against their will with the use of threats, is what harms them. If there's no force, and the teen isn't being exposed and coerced to adopt the mindset that they have been "abused", and are helpless "victims" of an evil monster, even though it was consensual, they can't be harmed simply because no harm is being done to anyone.

Stop trying to push this retarded notion that consensual sex is inherently evil just because YOU decide who is able to consent and who is not, using your own arbitrary standards.

>>736480936
DAMN RIGHT! This is why I think the age of consent should be lowered. I hope that happens one day. Sadly, i fear it won't happen in my life time.

The earlier the age children becomes aware of sex and become sexually active, the fewer babies are born with cancer.
Science Bitch.

>>736480622
>Children cannot consent to something they don't fully understand
What makes you think teenagers don't understand sex? They think about sex 24/7, wtf are you even on about?

If there's ANYONE in this world who KNOWS what it is to want sex is a fucking pre-teenager who wakes up with a boner and goes to sleep with that same boner he had when he woke up.

>>736480489

you get to call it grooming because you have analyzed girls who have, for some reason or another, told on their childhood lover.

These girls were, at best, cared for in the short-term scenario (the adult made them feel safe enough and comfortable enough to enjoy the sex and the relationship), but, for the most part, none were cared for properly in the long-term scenario. Perhaps the adult didn't really care about them as a human being, or was making a huge mistake by rushing a relationship he wasn't ready for.

The children need solidarity and integrity in order to not allow society to convince them that they are terrible people or that their lovers are terrible people. Society wishes to eliminate the behavior and attitude.

Where the child grows into an adult with a weak self-image, he/she will cave in to the seeming omnipotence of society and its judgement upon pedosexuality. The adult who was once a child will eradicate from his/her mind any enjoyment of the sex and any information that would lead to thoughts that pedosexuality is OK, because it is implied by society that all pedos are to be annihilated without exception or mercy.

If the child IS cared for properly, and given strength and a good self-image, then he/she will be free to become a pedophile if he/she wishes to.

My niece is 9 and constantly wants me to "body slam" her on to the couch. But only if I put my forearm between her legs and my hand kinda on her tail bone but not cupping her butt. The forearm is her main thing. She knows what she's doing. I oblige. Harmless

>started masturbating at age 4
>first orgasm at age 7
>realized about the world of sex and sexuality at age 11

>>736481415
LOLIS ARE REAL

>>736480521
Not true, he said "certain kinds of cancer" are caused by epigenetic information. He also says this information is often passed down the generations,so it could take much longer than 45 years for this solution to impact some cancers. This would hardly be worth the increased mortality rate for infants and their mothers. Worse, could be the epigenetic impact caused by early motherhoods.

>>736480936
Statutory rape isn't punished because of the later impact, it's punished because it's taking advantage. Children are incapable of making rational well informed decisions, so they are incapable of consenting.

>>736481725
There has never been a diagnosis of cancer in anyone who has Down's syndrome. Ever.

>>736481398
Well put. If you don't mind me asking, what causes some kids to turn in their adult lovers? And is the Philippines or Thailand the few parts of the world where pedosexual is more accepted?

>>736481415
I wish my niece would let me do that. She's 9 to and kind of looks like Shirly Temple, but cuter.

>>736481862

try reading the rest of this thread.

It'll do you a good turn.

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>>736481545
You bet they are.

>>736481964
Not accurate, and not the full story.

"numerous epidemiological and clinical studies reveal that Down's syndrome, PD, schizophrenia, AD, multiple sclerosis, Huntington's disease (HD), anorexia nervosa, diabetes and allergy-related diseases (among other health problems) seem to protect against many forms of cancer, including solid tumours, smoking-related tumours (especially lung, colorectal and bladder cancers), prostate cancer and Hodgkin's and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma." http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v14/n4/full/nrn3464.html

And to be more specific, Down's Syndrome reduces the rates of Embryonal tumours in childhood (for example, neuroblastoma and medulloblastoma), Breast cancer, and Skin cancer. Cancer still exists though.

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>>736472662
I think you need to kill yourself before you start buying dolls and acting like a faggot.

>>736480622

That you even know about their sexual activities as children harms the fuck out of them.

No one has examples of children who had sex with an adult, revealed the situation or somehow it got out into public, and had a positive experience/memory of it afterwards.

That's why this thread is here. We are anonymous for fucks sake

>>736482200
I've read the entire thread and many like it. We simply disagree. The issue at hand is protecting children from being taken advantage of. Perhaps a parental consent system might work, or something else of that nature, but I'm in no position to claim knowledge of what's best. I was simply stating reason for current laws.

>>736482496

Why does it have to be a "system?"

It sounds cold, aloof, and centralized or authoritative.

What we have now is simply some parents recognizing when a pedo is interested in their child, and the parents, themselves pedo or seeing nothing wrong necessarily wrong with it, engaging the pedo in much the same way that a good father would engage a man who is courting his daughter. There's the added and special element of the taboo nature of that courtship and engaging behavior by the guardians/pedophile, however.

Also, good on ya. You argue civilly, and I respect that a lot.

I lost my "virginity" at 7. My sister told me the girl up the street liked me. She was 10-13. One day we were hanging out in my basement. She led things because I had no clue. I knew what I was doing was wrong but it felt so good. Think i orgasmed but no ejaculation. All oral.
I knew she was attracted to me. I was attracted to her. I just had no clue what to do about it till she showed me.

>>736481415
There was this 10 year old boy who loved using me as a "chair", back when I used to hang out with his cousin a few years ago.

He would grab both my hands and slide his ass all over my stomach while pushing his back against my thighs. He would stay like that looking at the ceiling for a while with his head resting on my knees and his own knees above my shoulders, then pull himself all the way, and lay on my chest with his hair all over my face, humping me with his ass up near my crotch.

He knew exactly what he was doing, and I could feel his boner poking me all the time. I especially loved his reaction one day when I was sitting on this couch with my hand facing up right beside me, and he jumped to hug me, but his ass landed precisely over my hand, so he kind of moved away a few inches, but then moved right back where he originally landed, once he realized what he was doing. I had to move my hand just so it would avoid suspicion.

Saying this boy didn't know what he was doing, and that he had no other intentions, is pure horse crap.

>>736482897
It has to be a system for the same reason the police and government have to be systems. The innocent and weak deserve protection. Without a system in place to assure that, there is no accountability and no security.

>>736483109

They do deserve it.

Socialism doesn't bring it. Capitalism always will.

Capitalism is about the right of the individual, and each person being a sovereign.

We are all kings of ourselves and our property.

Government and other systems are a technology. They will always evolve and become more efficient.

They are also a form of communication. We communicate force upon each other through government.

However, what you call government is only a small slice of the totality of government.

For clues, look up the definition of government...

You seem studious, so I suppose you half understand this.

The rest comes eventually if you keep this in mind.

Morality is a system. The internet is a system. Prices are a system.

Sorry, perhaps I'm just very sleep deprived. Good night. Talk more some other time.

Great thread erryone.

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Why

Little girls 7-8 can be very enthusiastically filthy.

>>736477176
In my early 20's a 9-year-old girl had a crush on me. I assumed it was nothing, though I tried avoiding her because her boldness made me a bit uneasy.

I ended up babysitting her one day, and she tried seducing me. She would not stop, I had to tell her "No" and "Stop" at least 6 times. It was fucking brutal. She left in tears, I felt awful.

I wondered if she was leaving, where would she go? She ended up going home. I found out the next day her family had been home the whole time.

>>736483495

P.S.

I looked up the definition of government on google.

Looks like I'll have to supply it, to avoid confusion:

"Government" can mean "how you regulate your own actions." It can refer to an aspect of your character.

>>736483868

oh and god damnit. What I meant was, the definition I wanted you to find, I did not find when I looked up the word.

>>736479438
In my experience..yes.

>>736484983
What kind of look do girls that age into?

>>736485615
They generally get really horny when they see teenagers, from my personal experience.

I think they probably like anything that looks like a hot twink.

>>736485834
I see. They don't like grown looking men. Damn

>>736486139
Nobody likes old hairy fat men, why would it be any different to them?

>>736486427
I'm not fat and hairy. Maybe I have a shot.

I don't know if this counts as hairy. I grew big 1970ish sideburns, and that didn't stop any attention I got from them. I was skinny though, so I can't speak to that.

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>>736483798
Explain

I remember when I was 7 I wanted to have sex with some of the girls in my class.

>>736472662
What made you post this topic OP?

Touch my daughter and I'll hate-fuck you

>>736472662
when i was about 7 i felt attracted to other girls, sexually though is your countries legal age i will take no part in underage love making, anyway to have sex here there isnt law on age.

>>736472662
Your friends an idiot. I remember some creepy older women flirting with me and my cousin when we were much younger than that. We both understood what was going on. We're 30 now.

>>736491092
How old is your daughter, and how would you feel if she liked a man in his mid-late 20's?

>>736491546
wut

>>736492918
There is a 12yo girl on my street who has liked me for 4 years. I only say Hi to her when she says Hello to me first, I'm not interested in her. I know she has told her parents because her mother always smiles at me. However...her father stares the shit out of me and looks at me like he wants to kill me. I can't really control who his kid has a crush on, but I guess I get it.

I was wondering how you'd feel if it was your daughter? Sorry, I should have explained.

>>736493428
Not him but I understand
I doubt that girl is interested in naughty stuff with you tho
Also if you get closer, her father would talk with you about it

When I was 4-6 I was horny from time to time. Wanted to fuck a girl that was in my kindergarten class, I can still remember her name lol.
My first sexual fantasy was to tie up the neighbor with huge tits and play with her anytime I wanted, it was then I noticed that I am a fucked crippled individual

>>736472662
Who's that one dude who did that experiment on children seeing if they could have orgasms?

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I really can't say what age but my best friends little sister is only 7 and knows the difference between consentual sex and sexual assult

>>736494019
You mean Alfred Charles Kinsey? the one who made the book:Sexual Behavior in the Human Female in 1953.

>>736493853
I'm actually not interested in her at all. I just smile back or say Hello when she does it first, and try to be polite. I don't get why her mom is cool with me and her dad isn't. I guess it's a protective fatherly thing.

i didn't start getting horny until like 13 or 14... most girls start thinking sexually as soon as they get boobs though afaik, maybe a little earlier.. the first stimulation always comes from the nipples rubbing on shirts

>>736493428

go ahead and talk to him about it.

Obviously, if it was one of our daughters, we would first of all have a very close relationship with her.

Very close.

Secondly, we would be respectful of her wishes while at the same time very parental. We would in general have a more joyful outlook of life due to the extreme love and fortune in our lives, while also having a tempered awareness of our vulnerabilities.

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I just want to cuddle with a qt loli and stroke her hair and kiss her

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>>736494252
"Pass user since 2017"