Has there honestly been any evidence that Russia helped Trump

>>736241054
>Has there honestly been any evidence that Russia helped Trump win

The NSA sure the fuck think there is.

>>736241054
Well, he's still in office

>>736241054
Seems a strange story to conjure up. A more believable fake would be collusion with Syria or North Korea. Then it would be so ridiculously offensive to the nation that he would be charged with treason and shipped off within a week. Collusion with Russia? That pretty weak since the cold war has been over for a while.

>>736241054
Short answer is no.

Its also the long drawn out, and repeated answer.

>>736241742

that the public knows. i doubt you know as much as high level FBI agents and administrators but here's me over here being a private citizen as well so what do i know amirite

>>736242089
Well I mean he's still president despite your constant whining

>>736242089
you lost, we won, get over it..

>>736241054
Honestly, the Russians would have swept their tracks and probably made it look like some other country. They're not exactly new to espionage. Their leader is ex-KGB for fuck's sake. The democrats just can't handle their their side lost and half of them still seriously think Trump getting impeached or otherwise ousted means Hillary gets it instead of Mike "ride cock ride the lighting" Pence or Tillerson assuming Trump and pence both go. The USMC would be happy as fuck if even tillerson got nailed though because Mattis takes the seat.

>>736241054
No, I don't think so. This entire thing feels like an establishment witch-hunt. And I fucking despise Trump... I just despise the establishment more.

>>736242231

who am i? when did i whine? lumping everyone you perceive as a threat together into one group is pretty lamentable anon

>>736241054
DC dems still want folks to think that Russian hackers tampered with vote results, hence screaming "hacked the election" over and over. More likely, he didn't collude with Russia to hack DNC emails, but has done shady deals with Russian oligarchs, which shouldn't surprise anyone considering his career in real estate. Still, the president shouldn't have conflicts of interest, so if it does turn out he's indebted to Russian oligarchs, it would be a problem.

>>736241054

No.

Comey has nothing.
FBI has nothing.
NSA has nothing.
Clinton has nothing.
DNC has nothing.
GOPe has nothing.

Not one piece of corroborated evidence to date.

You Americans just like your witch hunts, doesn't matter if it's against a nigger or a whitey, democrat or republican.

>>736241130
No, we don't.
There was a concerted effort by Russia to influence the election, but collusion has no basis in evidence.

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>>736241054
main thing is russia paid people to shitpost on every social media site, message board, and really anything where americans were online and basically bombarded them with shitty conspiracy theories (or reinforced ones they already had) and decided to use their advanced ability to basically troll the living shit out of us. And it worked lol

>>736242346

good grade school argument. and how many times did you bitch about obama?

>>736241054

>Trump fucker thinking he's cute by demanding evidence in secret investigation

>>736242749
LOLOLOLOLOLOL JOKING I'M A DEMOCRAT

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>>736242584
i dont even care that you're russian but do you guys have good weed in russia or nah

>>736242747

and they did this... for free? i doubt they did it just to fuck with us. and i doubt they would help a man that didn't promise them something in return. that would just be idiocy.

>>736242873

if they had good weed they wouldn't be hacking our elections man keep up

>>736242584
This.

Usually they're able to find at least SOME shred of evidence and make a mountain of a molehill out of it, so the fact that they've been scrounging feverishly for 8 fucking months and found NOTHING makes it pretty damn clear Trump didn't do anything.

>>736242747
this is literally what the democrats did, CTR still going strong I see

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>>736242874
the russian secret service paid people to post convincing posts on sites and they got paid more per post if it was convincing and a paragraph + in length.

So basically the more you made up shit and pushed dumbass ideas, the more ya got paid. Same shit the Chinese did with their "50 cent" gang or whatever

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>>736243016
I voted for gary johnson thank you very much

>>736243077
You're literally talking about CTR, who worked for the Clinton campaign

Just like you fuckers to accuse others of what you yourself have done lmfao

>>736243077

yes, but why would they pay citizens to do that. why is their secret service paying people to influence our election at all, is my question, if they themselves didnt have something to gain from it? why would they do it unless they knew the reason for doing it would help them?

>>736243135
You could have voted Gary Johnson and still worked for CTR

Also stealing the "Change topic" move from Hillary I see

>>736241054
There are a lot of clues that collusion happened. From the many secret meetings between Russia, Flynn, Manafort and Kushner is on tape asking Russia to give him equipment to make a secure line to communicate with Moscow. They refused because they didn't want to give their classified equipment to Trump who would leak it. There are tons of hints of collusion but it will be very hard to prove it unless it's on tape. That sort of thing is almost impossible to prove even if it did happen, which all the hints seem to suggest it did.

>>736241054
There is evidence that they dicked around in the election. Which should surprise nobody -- they dick around in everybody's elections, releasing real or fake docs and that sort of thing.

There is yet no evidence that they colluded with anybody on the Trump campaign. Nor is there any evidence they "hacked" the election by fucking around with the vote count or anything.

>>736243261
>>736243287
>>736243324
cancer gtfo my freedom

>>736243357
There is evidence they attempted to hack voting machines but they got caught redhanded and it was stopped.

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what OP(who is a fag) means is there any evidence , besides all the evidence produced so far, which will send trump to jail

>>736243287
>do your tits hang low
>do they wobble to anf fro
>can you tie'em in a knot
>can you tie'em in a bow

>>736243341
>>736243357
Fuck off with your cringey rhetoric, either post evidence or fuck off and die

>>736242969
Investigations this complex take a long time and it has only been a few weeks since the special prosecutor was appointed.

Watergate took 18 months and there's a lot more involved in this case.

I have no doubt that several people will be indicted and convicted eventually.

>>736243422
You're thinking of George Soros and Hillary Clinton

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>>736243422
what about this bitch?

>>736243277
They did have something to gain, though.
During the election Trump said he wanted to repair relations with Russia and form an alliance with them against terrorism.
Clinton also said she would shoot down Russian planes.
Regardless of any conspiracy theories, having Trump in office is better for Russia as a country.

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>>736243453
You ignore all the evidence because you don't like what it has to say. You ignore the many meetings between Russians and Kushner and Flynn and Page and Manafort. You ignore Trump's praise of Putin and Trump asking Putin to hack the DNC. You ignore Trump meeting on the runway with a Russian billionaire in his private jet in secret. You don't want proof. You want to ignore the proof.

>>736243479
TrumpsayingWrong.gif

>>736242684
>No, we don't.
Underrated

>>736243524
>muh Soros boogeyman
You're ignoring a real conspiracy because you like to be distracted by the fake conspiracy.

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>>736243644
fake news, yawn

>>736242584
They don't have anything. But I do.

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>>736243644

Let's see how much of this you choose to ignore.

Trump has a relationship with Putin, which he has denied in recent times:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-a-2013-interview-trump-said-i-do-have-a-relationship-with-vladimir-putin/
Trump recently defended Putin from being called a killer :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317945-trump-defends-putin-you-think-our-country-is-so-innocent
He's done this before :
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-scarborough-2015-12
Trump Dossier leaks. He's possibly being blackmailed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier
Dossier claims possible gain of 19% share of Rosneft and not long after 19% is sold to a currently unknown party :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH
The spy who created the Dossier is highly regarded and wouldn't just make things up:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-vouch-credibility-donald-trump-russia-dossier-author
Multiple sources now confirm some of what was in the Dossier:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html
Additionally financial incentives with Russia:
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1
Trump tweeted the day after Flynn spoke with Russia : https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/814919370711461890?lang=en
Recording equipment was turned off for Trumps call with Putin:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/foreign-policy-insider-no-readout-of-trump-putin-call-because-white-house-turned-off-recording/

>>736242497
spoken like a true jackass.

No, all governments make dumb mistakes all the time. some are criminal, like, maybe there's more to Russia than just it hacking all major US intelligence divisions. Some are not so big a deal, like getting a blowie in the Oval office.

governments are not omnipresent and faultless

>>736243766
Why is CTR so bad at memes?

Russia confirms it had communication with Trump during campaign. :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russia-trump-idUSKBN1351RJ
Russia purges people in charge of intel (FSB). Multiple arrests:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/01/news/fsb-kaspersky-arrests/
Murder related to the Dossier leak:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/
Trump campaign specifically pushes pro-Putin move to Republican platform (Under Manafort) :
http://www.npr.org/2016/08/06/488876597/how-the-trump-campaign-weakened-the-republican-platform-on-aid-to-ukraine
An interesting bit of data related to Killed or wounded in action numbers of Ukraine/DNR forces in the Donbass region for 2017 so far (If anyone can find a reliable source for this data please let me know, I can only seem to find "an uptick in aggression" without numbers.) :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3mTrMwUoAElW_Z.jpg

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>>736243292
you know half the house had their own private email server? you done any research brohemian?

im too blazed to argue right now, hence my vote fam

>>736243730

how do you know it's fake? because someone you dont like said it?

Flynn ( National Security Advisor) - RESIGNED
Seemingly has a relationship with Putin :
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/21/trumps-national-security-adviser-pick-raises-serious-questions-about-putins-influence-over-us-policy.html
And apparently discussed sanctions with Russia:
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/318939-top-intel-dem-says-flynn-should-be-removed-if-he-talked-sanctions-with
The White House knew about Flynn communication with Russia :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html
Flynn has now resigned (right after the above article was posted) :
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/michael-flynn-white-house-national-security-adviser/index.html

>>736243815
Literally all fake news

Manafort (Former Trump Campaign Advisor) - RESIGNED
Seemingly has ties to Russia (and was paid by Russia) :
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html
FBI was looking into this
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-making-inquiry-ex-trump-campaign-manager-s-foreign-ties-n675881
Truth about Manafort coming out angered Russia :
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/russia-ukraine-trump-manafort-232101

Tillerson (Trump Secretary of State)
Tillerson gets put as Sec of State, has a relationship with Putin:
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-russia-exxon-2016-12
Right after Tillerson is confirmed House removes transparency rule :
http://www.vox.com/2017/2/1/14477314/oil-companies-disclosure-rule-tillerson

Bonus:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russia-eyes-sending-snowden-u-s-gift-trump-official-n718921
Recommended reading (Opinion piece by a well-known, pro-American hacker) :
https://jesterscourt.cc/2017/01/28/russian-infiltration-us-federal-government/

>>736243912
hi trump

>>736243912
>didn't read links
>FAKE NEWS
See? You don't want proof. You want to ignore the proof.

>>736242684
>There was a concerted effort by Russia to influence the election
bullshit

>>736243895
Flynn was Obama's guy

Evidence Obama colluded with Russia: 1
Evidence Trump colluded with Russia: 0

>>736242874
Two or three motives spring to mind.

First, Mr. Putin despises Mrs. Clinton. Fucking her over would appeal to him.

Second, they have a history of dicking around in western elections. It's sort of a thing spy agencies do -- Hell, we probably fucked around n their elections.

Finally, given how controversial Trump is, and how unlikely it seemed (and still seems) that he can work effectively with Congress, it would be in Russia's interest to see him elected, and what they hoped would be a divided and weakened USA. Whattaya think -- is that happening?

None of which means Trump or anybody on his team did anything wrong or were working with the Russians.

>>736243970
You expect me to read all that jewish conspiracy shit? Nah

>>736243815
Word. The amount of denial these people are in is actually amazing. Like a cat playing Beethoven or something.

Shit is going to get real when indictments are handed down. Some people won't ever accept the truth.

>>736243982
>>736243942
>>736243914
>>736243895
>>736243861
>>736243815
There is more evidence that Trump is involved with Russians than there ever was about the fake Pizzagate distraction, and yet which one did you choose to believe in? Rethink your beliefs. What if all of this is true? Have you even considered the consequences?

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>>736243912
im liberal as fuck and that made me laugh my ass off

fuck yeah

>>736243852
Because memes appeal to the uneducated, the simpleminded, like right-wingers.

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The people protecting Trump in this thread are Russian.

>>736243995
Obama fired Flynn. Moran.

The FBI says so, but the citizens haven't seen any evidence. Plus the FBI is suspicious.

I'd just keep my eyes on the administration, and stay on the fence about the whole Russia thing.

>>736244084
*literally more fake news
ftfy

>2017
>falling for the jewish media meme
kek

>>736242874
Putin hates Clinton. But more than that Putin wants the sanctions removed because they're blocking a trillion dollar oil deal he signed with Rex Tilleson of Exxon (who is now Trump's Secretary of State btw). As long as the sanctions remain, Russia's economy is hurting because oil is their main export.

>>736243422
Sauce on that?

>>736244163
No Trump did cucklord

>>736244204
>post sources
>JEWISH LIES!
>FAKE NEWS!
You just want to ignore reality. That's delusion.

>>736241742
/thread
If there were, Obama and Hillary would have found it long ago.

Here cumz da asian whore pixs

>>736244239
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/05/531649602/report-russia-launched-cyberattack-on-voting-vendor-ahead-of-election

>>736244037
>The amount of denial these people are in is actually amazing

They understand it, they just don't care.
They're losers, they're used to losing.
They just want to bother you in the meantime.

>>736242346
>We.
lol
You won fuck all.

>>736243861
If you're using Reuters and NPR for sources, you are basing your argument on fake news. Neither one of them has any credibility.

>>736244318
>>736244300
>>736244280
>>736244267
>>736244241
>forum sliding because too much proof was posted
Shills.

>>736241130
The NSA got it's "evidence" from the rest of the intelligence community.
CrowdStrike, one source , not corroborated

>>736241054
Well if there wasn't he wouldn't be raging all over Twitter

>>736241054
sure. trump was a businessman before he became a pres. obviously, he would have had interaction with the russians.
even roosevelt had dealt with the russians.

>>736244297
You're the one with a tinfoil hat on, friendo.

God I can't there's still 7.5 more years of Trump winning.

>projecting your delusion on to me

oh boy i am laffin

>>736244376
Reuters is probably THE most trusted news agency on the planet. If you're ignoring them, you have swallowed the Kool-Aid. Are you getting your actual fake news from Breitbart and Infowars? You only like their lies because they're comforting lies that feed into your beliefs.

>>736244084
>Rethink your beliefs
fuck you nigger, 8 more years

Damn, the media matters Brockbots are out in force!

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B..b..b...b...BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>736243479
>people will be indicted and convicted eventually.
Maybe for process crimes like Scooter Libby

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>>736244580
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

IMPEACH!

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>>736243277
Oil bro, look who is in Trumps cabinet right now


Too high to explain anything but check out Rex Tillerson and his deals with Russia and look what Obama did for stopping those deals with Exxon (well the Russian version of Exxon, i think it was a a Russian petroleum company that did deals with the US company Exxon)

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>>736241054
right here is your fucking evidence, he is going to jail after this

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>>736244543
>nigger
Who do you think satisfies Melania? Surely not that cheeto endurance cheeto dick kek

>>736242943
Makes sense.

>>736241054
This is just the Establishment angry they don't have one of their own in the Oval Office - First time since Kennedy. They'll probably try to assasinate him when Mueller comes up empty handed.

You're witnessing an attempted coup.

>>736244646
wtf I'm republican now

>>736243833
I would think a government that spent a very VERY long time in a glorified spy war with us would still know how to make it look like someone else we don't like did it. Hell, idiot hambeasts dining on gourmet cheeto dust and mountain dew by the keg can leave breadcrumbs pointing to someone else these days. Of course they can fuck up but I doubt an actual Russian state espionage job would be so careless as to put fuckups on a job like this one.

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>>736244833
Yeah it'll be just the establishment no one else wants trump dead at all kek

>>736244617
Psh no special formatting to better convey human dialect? What a fag. 2/9 try better next time.

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>>736244339
>npr

>>736244339
Thank you for posting your source.

Just based on what is written there, I'm going to wait for more info before deciding what to believe there. And I note that "Russian hackers" is always assumed to be Russian government agents, but may mean (and often does mean) Russian criminal elements. So I'm going to wait and see...

But I do appreciate your backing up your earlier post.

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whats with republican/russian deflection by posting a bunch of asian chicks, is it because that one goofy ass guy in the senate whos a republican is eating an asian ass?


i dont remember her name
*his name

>>736242497
Dems don't think Trump getting ousted means they (Dems) get in, it's more just hoping to undermine the opposition for future elections.

>>736245125
Probably the guy trying to attract people to the thead with the possibility of asian pussy, but you knew that already didn't you anon?

>>736244252

wow you legitimately don't know anything before last week huh

>>736244441
I disagree -- I think he really likes raging on Twitter.

I forget who the line was originally applied to, but I think it fits. "He's a very even-tempered man -- he is always equally enraged."

>>736245220
They want to end the national security threat of having a compromised president leaking our secrets to an enemy.

>>736244851
Here's a fact check:
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

>inb4 librul!!11!
Left or right, the media is terribly misinformed right now. Honestly, I'm on the fence about Trump/Russia and I hated both candidates.

>>736245220
Not all of them but some of them seriously believe if Trump goes Clinton is in. Idiots come on all sides.

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>>736241054
The answer is 'yes', at least that is what every single USA intelligence de3partment has said.

However, if you replace the word 'Russia' with the word 'emails, and the word 'Trump' with the word 'Hillary', then the answer is no - from every single USA intelligence agency.

>>736242517


THIS.

>>736242969
Nothing? Did you miss the whole Flynn thing ??????

>>736243815
Anything in there that isn't from the left or bias media? Anyone can find something on the internet that agrees with their beliefs. I am still blown away Hitlery didn't get locked up. Money can buy innocence..

>>736245514
That's some good bait

>>736242346
You lose too, you just don't know it yet.

>>736245338

people throw around "the media" all the time. it'd be nice if we didn't demonize every source of information just because it can be considered media.

>>736241054
Yes. All seventeen US intelligence agencies agree with 100% certainty. This is why the previous administration imposed additional sanctions on Russia last December (on top of those imposed for Putin's invasion of the Ukraine). The fact that YOU have not been personally briefed does not negate this. What has leaked out so far is certainly alarming, to any patriotic US citizens who actually give a damn about this country. The only people who try to pretend there is any doubt this happened are Trumptards. When Trump was briefed on it he asked for no particulars or proof - because he KNOWS it happened - and was only concerned with how it would make him look.

>>736243581


Check. Mate Trumpanzies.

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>>736245125
It's because trump said the USA is China's rape victim and it's true the Asians are raping us we are victims

>>736245659
If you genuinely believe all of those news agencies are leftist lies, you have been brainwashed for real. That's how he keeps deceiving people. He tells you everyone who reports on him is "fake news" not because it is, but because the truth is so damaging to him. It's what many corrupt world leaders have done in the past. Trump has even floated the idea of arresting journalists who print things about him. These are huge red flags.

>>736245712
This whole bread is bait, Nuggohead.

>>736243730
I believe it, I also believe the dems would do the same thing. The era of partisanism is coming to an end my riech wing anon. The left and the right are about to get cucked.

>>736245659

are you seriously asking for info based on conservative beliefs while demonizing that anybody can find something on the internet that agrees with their beliefs?

murderers don't often give written confessions, why would a news source that hopes to protect "one of their own" disseminate critical information of them?

>>736241054
Russia has been talking shit about trump all day, they don't like the fact that he is fucking with cuba .

>>736246013
Pff, the right has already cucked the fuck out of Trump.. Look at him selling billions of weapons to Muslims LMAO. He talked it up and sold himself to the masses of retards, but in reality, he's just a sales guy. Just like obamer, hildogg, and everyone else who is publicly figured.

Shits a lot deeper than the media makes it out to be, and the shits rooted deep. Can't just mow the lawn or "drain the swamp" when there is a swamp that reaches the core.

>>736245636
Flynn was Obama's guy

Trump is the one who fired him.

>>736241054
Doesn't matter. Firing Comey is still obstruction of justice

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>>736246016
THIS IS NOT COMMUNIST RUSSIA ALL OUR NEWS STATIONS IS LEGITIMATE

>>736245852
I get my news and insight from a lot of different sources. Most are not associated with any political ties. The Hill...Really..not Leftist? Wikipedia?! Really..you're going to try and sell me on that one? CNN..proven as unreliable. Raw Story?! Really.. that team pulls headlines out of the cats liter box. Each one of those new agencies are questionable. Add in Fox, and the other sides as well. They will spin the stories to fit who they support. Get your news out of a non-political affiliated network.

>>736241054
Yeah actually, quite a bit, I am very surprised you haven't watched any news programs that detail it.

>>736243439
Doesn't work. The process stops then and there at the behest of Congress. Pence is impeached as soon as he makes the announcement and the third in line becomes president.

>>736246226

obama fired flynn, trump became president and appointed him a national security advisor (after he was fired by obama), then trump fired flynn.

please learn about things before you talk about them

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>>736246202
>selling billions of weapons to Muslims LMAO
Holy shit Saudi's are fucking Muslims HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS

Trump supports just got fucked so bad, I wonder if they can even comprehend the basics of that.

>>736246276
Find a new agency that isn't supported by a political affiliate.
CNN - Liberal
FOX - GOP
each one can say, hey...I don't like how this makes my corner look.. lets bury it.

>>736246388
It's called posting shit you don't know like you do know it.

Welcome to 2017, the year of the expert.

Hurrr durr still your president

>>736241054
Whether there is or there is not, the trouble not Donny is just starting. One for sure, he is borderline incompetent in my opinion. SO far neither he built the wall, nor he reversed Obamacare

>>736246553
Fuck you trump is our Lord and savior you fucking cuck

>>736246276
Not to mention the dictato.. I mean rightly elected official who has been running it for merely a few 17 years (with one year off?). While extracting 11 figures from his own country.

His oppositions die from normal, natural ways, btw.

>>736246633
Haha I get last pic

>>736246445
>I wonder if they can even comprehend the basics of that.
>implying they don't care how badly they get fucked as long as the libtards are triggered

>>736241054
No. Liberals are out of control and they think they can do anything the want in order to win the election after it's already over.

They're going to start a civil war.

>>736246605
Conditioning in action! I fucking love it.

>>736245125
200 images = kills thread

>>736246822
That is true. At this rate, and the way they are carrying on, the only trophy the whiners and the winners are going to get will be a head stone.

>>736246553
Yeah I like the wall idea it's much taller and longer than any medieval castle ever.

So did trump stop the fucking Chinese from raping us cause that's one thing I don't want him to change. The Chinese are raping us

>>736246822
>They're going to start a civil war.
This, this is just plain fucking retarded, and totally shows how the media can fucking twist and turn shit.

The left and right EXTREMISTS (the .0001%) of each partisan side make the media, because they are the most retardedly fucked up. The rest of us don't want a civil war, because we actually have money, family, etc.

Fuck the left and the right extremists, they can kill themselves all they want, they're fucking cancer.

>>736242231
Now if only he could do something other than golf at Marlago or get shot down by the Supreme Court and a congress that his party holds a majority in... literally all he's managed to do while in office is bitch about the press and tweet.

>>736247020
>The left and right EXTREMISTS (the .0001%)
Edgy nazi alt cucks from /pol/
VS
Edgy femfaggot participation trophy bitches from tumblr

Both dying off would make my fucking decade.

>>736246822
>>736246943
This is the mentality of a basement dweller who watches biased media all day instead of actively socializing with real people, outside.

Lol
>uh oh, there is no defense for Trump's actions. Better start spamming the thread

>>736247331
Attacking me doesn't change the facts. When you start attacking the messenger, you lost the argument. Maybe next conversation we have I can use the big crayons to help you understand better..

>>736246066
Russia says things in public, then does the opposite in action. Like when they said Russia was not invading Crimea when they were. Or when they said they weren't invading Finland when they were. You absolutely can't trust anything from Russia. They just lie constantly to confuse matters.

>>736246294
"non-policical allifilated network".

You mean, you get your news from Brietbart, right?

>>736247878
Or when they said "Putin absolutely never sucked off a bear while dressed only in the flag and fur hat"

>>736247008
He just signed a trade deal with them dude.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/05/12/trumps-new-trade-deal-china/

Despite everything he said on the campaign trail, he signed a fucking trade deal with China.

>>736241054
Here's my question:
Everybody is going absolutely nuts over Russia *possibly* trying to rig the election in favor of Trump, with little to no evidence
There is concrete evidence that the Democratic party colluded with the Clintons in order to help Hillary against Berney
100% undeniable proof, that they *did* rig the election and nobody gives a fuck
How in the world are people so blind

>>736248428
There's no law against the DNC rigging their own internal elections. The DNC is a private organization. Their primary election results aren't official national election results.

I still think it was stupid and evil and blew up in their faces. But it's not a crime.

>>736248428
It'd be more of an issue if she'd won.

>>736248428
I hope it's a case of "which has more immediate consequences?"

But yes, that should be just as disturbing. I hope the whole debacle since 2015 precipitates some major changes to our fucked up voting procedures.

Fuck its aggravating. Senior intelligence officials and senators from republican party as well as democrats have seen the evidence. They tell the news they've seen the evidence and its real. Its not allowed to be released because its classified. People take that to mean there's no proof. It was fucking frustrating seeing Tucker Carlson calling for people who release classified information to be shot, then ten minutes later blast a republican for not releasing the classified information implicating the Russians.

>>736247739
>attacking me is the messenger
LOL ok kid, it's still your opinion. Just because it's the same regurgitation as the media that conditioned you, doesn't mean you're a messenger lol.

You'd have to specify, "I heard this, but I don't necessarily believe in it." This is the post of a "messenger". Take out your big crayons and write that down.

The rich would hate a civil war btw. This is why it won't happen, just gotta keep the middle and lower classes complacent.

>>736249577
It's a delicate situation. One hand, you show evidence of collusion, the other you give away that the deep-state monitors ever since packet and phone line on the entire planet. As well as having the ability to crack or skeleton key commonly used safe encryption.

>>736244307
Agree. Do you think Obama would have let Trump take over if there was evidence?

>>736250782
He did take action and lay down a bunch of new sanctions.

>>736241054
Doesn't matter. The fact that he obstructed the investigation is what's the thing that will see him out the door.

>>736242346
>you lost, we won, get over it..
Alternative #1 (low probability): You're rich and about to really clean up when the GOP cuts your already low tax rate.
Alternative #2 (high probability): You're not rich, and you're about to get fucked over royally. You're OK with this, however, because you've been told the niggers and the spics will get it worse.