Can I take Adderall without prescription? Anybody that did/

>>736216688
if you want your brain to go full retard and stay like that go ahead.
its break the brain solid.

>>736216801
Mind explaining?

>>736216688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHP-b_q09Gk

>>736217020
>>736216688
Soak in.

>>736216688
Fuck off

Had a scrip for years. Started out with 20mg extended release and went down to 10mg tablet. Now I don't take it anymore. Start out with a small dose of 5mg and see what it feels like. That should be enough for anyone who doesn't need/use it. DO NOT take a bunch at once. Your blood pressure will go through the roof and you could literally have a coronary. If you have a heart condition, stay away from it. If you have a nicotine addiction, you're going to feel the urge to smoke/dip more while it's in your system. It's also going to kill your appetite and you won't be able to fall asleep while it's in your body. Once it's out of your system, be prepared to fight through about an hour of malaise and slight depression as you seratonin levels return to normal. Overall, it's great stuff. Gives you energy and helps you focus. I used to call it my 8 hour power. lol

>>736216688
nah, you'll die

>>736217178
I go to sleep at 10 and wake up at 6 if i take it at 6 will it be ok ?

No you can't. With out a prescription the drug will have zero effect on you.

>>736217361
Yeah. The regular tablets last about 8 hours or so. The extended release lasts 12. Takes around 30-40 minutes to take effect. Just don't take it before go to to sleep because you will not go to sleep.

Start with 10mg. It kicks in around 45min. U feel euphoric for next 3 hours. Then kinda like a placebo effects kick in and u keep doing ur work. Adderall is awesome, but dont use it any more than you absolutely need to. You dont a dependency for any substance.

>>736217361
But really, you should get a doctor to approve it and write a scrip if you can. You may have some condition that will make the adderall have an adverse effect on you. Not to mention it's cheaper with a prescription than it is on the street.

>>736217448
Muh sides, anon

>>736217541
What doctor should I see exacly in order to get a prescription and a dosage ?

>>736217448
whatever you say

>>736217448
Lmfao

>>736217721
Pretty much any general practitioner or doctor can do it. Normally they'll want to familiarize themselves with your medical history first. Find a doctor, convince them you have adhd and ask about it.

>>736217721
Just buy it off streets. If you have legit ADHD than go to doctor. But if u a college kid wanting to get shit done more efficiently buy from someone.

>>736216688
Yes, ofc you can take the drug without a prescription. As for what could go wrong, very likely nothing unless you have some special medical problem (ex., a heart condition) that adderall could aggravate

>>736216688
You can be me. 120mg in one dose. No effects of wanting to clean. Became slowpoke

>>736217945
Family doctor?

>>736218036
120mg is a starter dose. Try 80-100 though just to be safe OP

>>736218077
Yeah. Family doctor. I got my scrips written by my old pediatrician until I was like 22.

>>736218157
Wat? 120mg starter? Wat u smoking. Pills come in 10, 20 and 30. R u seriously saying u take 4 30mg Adderall?

>>736218329
He's burning out his brain if that's what he's really taking. lol

>>736216688
go back to study, and get rekt on your exam tomorrow like everyone else. You should have worked before.

>>736218329
I'd start with 4 honestly, people just overhype adderall and say it's more than what it is but it's pretty mild. 100mg at least is a good dose to feel the good effects without crossing over into negative side effects.

>>736218530
Bro r u crazy? Chill. R we talking about the same drug? Has ur dealer been lying to you? No normal person should need any more than 30mg. 10mg is a start

Gotta remeber doctors know how adderall can get you high and that theres a market for em on the street so theyll be a little cautious giving out scripts. Dont seem desperate. Let him say adderall first. You dont wanna look desperate or like you got adderall on your mind. Its definitely worth it to try since theyll be way cheaper. If not the best place would to find some would be near colleges or high school.

>>736218681
How about you shut up and leave the talking to people who aren't ignorant and have actually taken it before. Stop misinforming people on the internet you bitch.

>>736218681
10mg is effective as placebo

>dont do it if you have a heart condition
>be sure to eat on it, even though you don't want to
>don't look at porn on it, unless you don't have anything to do for the next 8 hours
>taking it every day will make stopping taking it blow

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>>736218835
Bro 10mg is not placebo. And 100mg is not starter. Its insanity. PROOF 10mg adderall b972

my friend chewed two tablets, was awake for 55 hours straight.

>>736219107
Try educating yourself next time before you spew out bullshit and misinformation. You're not OP's physician either so tone it down with the false warnings and scare tactics. 10mg adderall is borderline placebo and I guarantee OP won't notice it, the real effects shine in higher doses.

>>736219107
And they're all bagged up. Why exactly should we be trusting you for advice? You're either buying or selling them illegally and have no experience using them outside of a recreational context. OP isn't trying to abuse his medication. 100mg is a standard therapeutic dose, maybe if you educated yourself you'd know already.

>>736219315
Never said i was. But also not saying almost lethal dose is a starter.

>>736216688
I've taken it and several similar medications. Research shows that it has the same benefits whether or not you have a condition it is meant to treat. The only holdups you might are pre-existing conditions. For instance, I have lesions in my brain that cause hypomania. Taking it turned that into full blown mania, and afterwards I had a debilitating depression that lasted months. It sucked because I took it to help with school, but it ended up making things much worse.

>>736219443
Its personal use. I just like my shit stored neatly

if taking vyvanse, take the recommended dose
if taking adderall XR, take the recommended dose, one pill
same with Dexedrine, they come in 5mg IR pills
dont take 100mg

i took adderall 20mg xr, had a good day
took a bunch of dex IR once, felt like shit

>>736219502
100mg is even close to lethal, buddy. Glad to hear you can feel 10mg but the majority of people can't. Stop telling OP it's a lethal dose, it's not.

>>736218530
stop misleading people. also if you're dumb enough to believe this guy then you gon learn soon enough.

take 100mg your first time see what happens lol

>>736219702
Its not exactly lethal but it is not the starter. Everyone else talking about normal dosages 10,20 and 30. Only u talking bout 100+

>>736219797
Let OP decide what dose works for him. I'm just helping out, you guys are misleading him with your "adderall is dangerous" BS. It's not.

>>736219797
lmao, take a low dose of any drug the first time you take it, not 5 times what is recommended by a doctor

>>736219797
Be careful of advice given on internet in general. Or have enough common sense not take take 4 of some pill as starter

>>736218157
I said this. And no I'm not normal. Adderall doesn't work for me. Doesn't do shit. Don't go take 120mg like I said with out ever doing it first.
>>736218681

>>736218329>>736219107
Do you guys, if 10mg works for you, do you. Idk what is safe or not since I'm no doctor, nor am I advising you to do as much as I've had.

>>736219845
>never tried it so it must be dangerous
>10mg works for me so it must work for everyone else too
You probably have a really slow metabolism to even notice 10-30mg

>>736219983
Take your preachy bullshit somewhere else

>>736219993
I usually take 15mg and that works fine. My friends take between 10-20. 30 and above u have crazy tolerance

>>736219315
Buying street are you?

>>736219993
Metabolism plays a very small role in the uptake and inhibition of neurotransmitters, but sure let's go with that.

>>736220119
Bro take ur amphetamines overuse lifestyle somewhere else

>>736220132
You have no solid evidence to back that up and say that anything above 30mg is a "high" dose.
>>736220149
I used to be prescribed 90mg adderall daily. What makes you think that? >>736220160
More ignorance
>>736220246
You have no idea what you're talking about. Take your preaching and bullshit opinions somewhere else.

>>736219993
Just start smoking meth if u need 100+mg of adderall.

>>736216688
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>736217178
also this. used to be prescribed 70mg of vyvanse a day and I couldn't have put it better.

>>736220357
120mg adderall is safer

>>736220246
Sounds like you already burned off a good portion of your brain cells. I bet you abused your addies. Did the tard wrangler take you off?

>>736220348
Aright if u have ADHD and u need to take adderall daily to live. Than 100mg per day is not a lot. But if u r college student trying to study 10-20 is enough per day. I though we were talkng in context of 1pill to study. Bot multiple to get though day like u r.

>>736216688
You won't have an appetite all day and will talk a lot if you get started. One pill should be fine, you can break it open and crush/snort it in parts if you want. If it's a 30 that's what I do, 30 is a bit intense for me.

>>736220562
Nah bro i use only during midterms and finals. I dont want to be addicted to any substance. Havent taken one since finals season. I dont need amphetamines daily

>>736220565
See? Everyone's saying 100+ mg is dangerous but they're just misinformed. Honestly even someone without ADHD can see benefits from a moderate dose of adderall. All they have to do is drink plenty of water and there's virtually no side effects. I've seen plenty of people take doses of adderall like that and ace their exams. As for me, I just use it daily as prescribed and never exceed 140mg. Never had any issues.

>>736220657
>you will have these subjective effects
Not everyone has the same side effects though, you uneducated turd. Stop spreading out bullshit and misinforming OP. 30mg is next to nothing

>>736220752
You are right. 120mg is not too much if taken im intervals throughout day. But im assuming this is a college kid who just wants to study more effectively. There for 10-20 mg pill should be enough

>>736220752
And u need abit more probably cause u have tolerance. This person is asking about it so i doubt he ever tried it. Therefor no tolerance

>>736220348
Ignorance? No, just science
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301008205000432
I can tell you though that the pills will increase your metabolism once injected. Also, to overdose someone would need to take like 20 pills. That isn't to say however, that taking less wouldn't be uncomfortable - taking more than a standard dosage often is.

>>736220820
30mg is a fucking ton for people who use it sparingly. For someone, like OP, who has never used it before, it would be way too much. Loss of appetite and increased energy/focus are also widely documented effects of adderall..... not sure how anyone could possibly think otherwise.

>>736216688
OP if you're still here listen to me. 120mg is perfectly safe and these other guys have no idea what they're talking about. 400mg is the lethal dose of adderall, and doctors prescribe 100+mg doses all the time. If you want to maximize the positive effects while minimizing negative side effects then don't bullshit around with placebo doses like 10-30mg. Let us know how it goes too :^)

>>736219315
>10mg adderall is borderline placebo
you are getting some bunk as fuck shit my man, been taking adderall all my life, can easily feel 2mg, most days 5mg is enough to get me going

also, 200mgs is my upper limit. Any higher and I might go comatose

>>736220919
10-20mg would be about as effective as a cup of coffee

>>736221042
They aren't placebo doses at lower levels, they just won't feel like fucking cocaine.

>>736221105
If 10-20mg is as effective as a cup of coffee for you, then you either have ADD or a decently strong tolerance for adderall.

>>736221004
I take regular tolerance breaks >>736221032
>once injected
OP you can write off this guys opinion now, he's telling you to inject it. Pure ignorance
>>736221035
Again, more ignorance. Not everyone experiences the same effects as you. Maybe you're just sensitive and can't handle a normal dose of adderall

>>736221042
If u want to be euphoric all day sure, 120 taken periodically is reasonably ok. But there is no need for so much. Only u r saying u need that much. U have tolerance. 10-20 or even 30 is plenty

>>736221255
ingested, that was a typo. Oh, and here have some more science:
"For humans with ADHD or narcolepsy, standard recommended dosage is 5–60 mg daily. Amphetamine and its analogues stimulate the release of norepinephrine affecting both α– and β–adrenergic receptor sites. α–Adrenergic stimulation causes vasoconstriction and an increase in total peripheral resistance. β-Adrenergic receptor stimulation leads to an increase in heart rate, stroke volume, and skeletal muscle blood flow. Clinical signs of Adderall® overdose in humans and dogs include hyperactivity, hyperthermia, tachycardia, tachypnea, mydriasis, tremors, and seizures. In addition, Adderall intoxication in dogs has been reported to cause hyperthermia, hypoglycemia, hypersegmentation of neutrophils, and mild thrombocytopenia."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S193897361300024X

>>736221067
>200mgs is my upper limit
So 100-120mg isn't so bad after all then is it. Also, my pharmacy doesn't carry "bunk" adderall and it's all prescription. My doctor specifically told me to take 120mg daily and it works for me, it'll work for OP too.

>>736221255
>736221255
You're not even stating where I'm "uneducated"... do you mean to say that adderall does not result in a loss of appetite or...? I didn't say anything other than pure common knowledge in a single sentence, lol. Are you retarded? Because if you actually think adderall has no effect on appetite, you'd have to be.

>>736221157
this, think that guy is confusing recreational use with actual like get work done use

>>736221157
Of course it won't feel like cocaine you idiot, it's AMPHETAMINE.

>>736221423
Yup

>>736221429
your stupidity just made my day
but don't worry, I know what you meant
i hope

>>736221386
Op is just trying to periodically study. Not using it every day to get by

>>736221304
Read above. I have no tolerance. >>736221366
I can copy/paste irrelevant information too!
>>736221398
You're a sensitive lil bitch if 30mg hurts your appetite. What I'm saying is not everyone will have the same experience as you, and you're most likely a puss

>>736221629
U have tolerance if u taking that much daily for extended period of time

>>736221423
>actual like get work done use

>>736221629
Here, I'll make it crystal clear for you:
"In humans, death from amphetamine has been recorded with as low a dose as 1.5 mg/kg"
E.G. Zalis, L.F. Parmley
Fatal amphetamine poisoning
Arch Intern Med, 101 (1963), pp. 822–866

>>736221588
My point is that if I can take 120mg daily, he can take it once and get the best results too. Keep in mind the doctor didn't have me develop a "tolerance" first either, I went from nothing to 120mg in one day and it's been like that ever since. It isn't dangerous.

>>736221629
>tough internet guys
>i take more adderall than you reeeeeeeeeeeee
I'm stating common fucking side effects for brand new adderall users, which OP is. You're an imbecile LOL

>>736219315

>10mg is placebo

t. stimulant junkie

>>736221821
>it isn't dangerous
It is, your just have a lazy doctor

>>736221801
Thanks for clearing up absolutely nothing you fucking retard

>>736221821
If so u got best doctor ever for an individual who wants to resell.

>>736221854
>anything above 10mg=junkie
t. pussy
>>736221893
I'll trust my doctor over some idiot like you. Where's your phD?

>>736221986
Mfw. I take more than you, IM COOL, REEEEEEE

>>736221386
>120mg daily
that's still a pretty crazy dose. I've seen people with 60mg daily, and heard of 90mg. The guy I know who takes 60mg is 6'5 and 250+ pounds of pure muscle. He has to take that much just because of his body.

200mg for me when I feel like tweaking because I'm pretty tolerant, also I'm 6'3, 200 pounds, and my heart can take it.

seriously though with taking 120 a problems and psychosis) would be micro penis. Your dick has to be like fucking peanut size.

>>736222074
Just giving OP advice without having you white knight pussies tell him it's dangerous

>>736222189
Bro, u r fucking retarded if you think what you are saying is good advice

>>736222189
Trying to* you uneducated fucks are ruining the fun

If you are sure that you won't take it everyday and won't use it for fun, than take it. I took some of the street speed this week for the studies, didn't pass the exam and then took some xanny, drank some beer, took more lines of speed and smoked some weed and now am going through very shitty withdrawals. Amphetamine may be very addictive and the most unpleasant side effect of it is the anxiety. Be sure to eat, drink a lot of water, also before going to sleep you can drink some of the vitamin C, because it helps your body to remove it from your system faster. Also, when you stop taking it, don't be scared of the side effects like chest pain, heart palpitations or muscle twitches because it's normal even though they are very annoying

>>736222189
Yeah literally no one is agreeing with you. Maybe your advice just fucking sucks.

>>736222318
no u r retardeed

>>736221986
>sigh
It doesn't take a phD to read basic medical literature, and yet some doctors don't do it. My guess is he used his intuition given your case, because there is no set treatment level. Each patient is unique, and you probably presented with some extreme symptoms.

That does not mean that 100mg is safe in all cases, which is what you were implying. It is in fact dangerous to assume that. We can't perform toxicology studies on humans, but dogs are fairly comparable when it comes to amphetamines. Would you like to see the results of one such study?

>>736222189
Everyone but you is trying to tell OP to be safe and take a reasonable dose for beginner. And not have a fucking dependency on amphetamines

>>736221821
This

Pharmacist here, drinking more water won't mitigate the side effects of adderall. That being said doctors don't prescribe 100+ mg doses "all the time". If they ever get to doses that high they almost always will use an extended release version and augment with an IR tab midday. It is also pretty rare they get that high on daily doses

>>736222378
Maybe you're just fucking ignorant. Also, people have agreed with me. Can you read? Maybe you should pop another

>>736216688
It can give you panic attacks or cause a heart attack if you have heart problems. It also doesn't actually help you concentrate better if you don't have add

>>736222433
>sigh
No thanks bitch, it's irrelevant anyways just like your opinion

>>736222570
>>736222455
>>736222378
>>736222318
>>736222353
>>736222433

Sorry what

>>736222604
>doesn't help you concentrate better if you don't have ADD
You're wrong

>>736222604
It does, thats why a good percentage of ppl in college use it.

>>736222536
Dude also thought metabolism was the main influence on one's tolerance. It gave me a laugh, but I don't think he understood the study I provided proving him wrong.

>>736220919
>>736221304
>>736221067
>>736222651

>>736222779
All of these prove that 100+mg doses are safe, opinions aside

>>736222883
Reasonably safe, sure. Advised, no

>>736222968
You're in no position to advise anyone of shit you uneducated idiot

>>736223022
Like u r, no one is, only ops doctor is.

Shit gives you the sexual stamina of a hamster. (hamsters fuuuuuck)

>>736222883
"In dogs, the oral median lethal dose for amphetamine can be anywhere from 9-11 mg/kg for methamphetamine hydrochloride to 20-27 mg/kg for amphetamine sulfate."

...

"These estimates are supported by clinical experience with fatal amphetamine poisoning and are thought to be more realistic than the frequently quoted LD50 for man of 20-25 mg/kg."

E.G. Zalis, G. Kaplan, G.D. Lundberg, et al.
Acute lethality of the amphetamines in dogs and its antagonism by curare
Proc Soc Exp Biol Med, 118 (2) (1965), p. 557

>>736223022
But fucking normal people dont take 120+

>>736223085
Exactly. So why do you idiots keep telling OP it's dangerous? He can take 120+mg if he wants :^)

>>736216688
The positives heavily outweigh any of the negatives, at least in the short term.

>>736223132
>27mg/kg for amphetamine sulfate
You realize that would be well over 120mg, right? Copying and pasting irrelevant articles doesn't make you sound any smarter you idiot

>>736223206
U gotta chill. We all gotta chill. OP should consult doctor or just take a low dose (10mg) and see what that does. Not more

>>736223303
I do realize that yes, and in what way is accurate information on the subject at hand irrelevant?

Also, how do you know OPs weight?

>>736223139
>normal people
Give me a break. What exactly is a "normal" person to you anyways? Fucking dumbass.
>>736223207
This. Especially if you're not using it daily. Shit, if I were OP I'd take 180mg.

>>736223391
I'm assuming OP isn't a newborn baby that weights <5 kilos. That article wasn't irrelevant, my bad.

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>>736223362
You gotta chill. I don't even think OP is here anymore, unfortunately.

>>736223496
Except you're basing your math on a couple false assumptions about the chemistry of adderall. I'm not saying it makes a huge difference, but enough that OPs weight matters. If you're confused by what I mean, note that adderall contains no amphetamine sulfate .

>>736217541
Adding to this, don't take it when exhausted either, cause if you do manage to fall asleep while it's in your system you'll end up in a sort of restless nightmare, kinda like sleep paralysis.

>>736223882
It has dextroamphetamine sulfate, and you have no point anyways. If 27mg/kg of amphetamine sulfate is considered dangerous then you can assume it's even higher for adderall.

>>736223882
Pharmacist again, it does contain amphetamine sulfate... but not solely amphetamine sulfate. It contains 4 different amphetamine salts.

>>736221042
Your full of shit

>>736219443
100mg would kill anyone with higher blood pressure. 10 can still do shit, and without tolerance it can do enough

>>736224068
No point? No, I just didn't want to repeat myself. I did phrase my point about adderalls composition poorly though. It did not express my intended meaning.

My previous point, and maybe >>736224130 will have some knowledge on the subject as well, is that overdose is very difficult to predict, see >>736221801. Studies try to get estimates for upper limits, but they are not a reflection of safe dosages. There are factors like weight and age which play an obvious role, but there are also factors we as of yet do not understand. That is why doctors prescribe well below the limits estimated in the study even in extreme cases.

Now I realize I'm not the most articulate person in the world, and I have a habit of seeming standoffish when I don't intend, but that has been my main concern while reading suggestions to try high dosages. Just that, a concern.

>>736221042
:^)

>>736224986
:^)
>:^)

>>736221854
lol someones never taken it before

>>736224749
I think many people believe that taking more and more of a medication will help more and more. That is certainly not the case. Many medications reach a therapeutic plateau where the added benefit of taking more is very small, but it greatly increases the risks of side effects. Rarely do you see a doctor go above 100mg/day because there lacks evidence to support that there is added benefit to increase the dose beyond that.

>>736225212
iunno, I felt it at 10mg, and I was ony 72mg of concerta daily for 3 years. I'm >>736224749 btw, and also >>736219540

>>736225464
>iunno
>comparing adderall to concerta

>>736225340
Very well said, and also a good argument against dabbing. Mind if I re-purpose your post?

>>736225601
I clearly said I've used both, I'm in a pretty good position to compare. 10mg of concerta might be undetectable to me, but not adderall.

>>736225688
*dabs*

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>>736225821
The kid that said 10mg is borderline placebo has never read a study. Recommended starting dose in children is as low as 2.5mg, although 5mg is probably a much more common dose. 10mg is an effective dose for many people. I can't be bothered to check right now, but pretty sure they used 10mg in their approval studies to show efficacy to get FDA approved, and that was in comparison to placebo.

>>736225688
Go for it

I have adderall was planning on using for test next week, but I just found out it accelerates balding

>>736226357
You don't know shit. Let's see your sources buddy.

>>736226477
Adderall will make you
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