Ask a Schizophrenic anything! I may take a while to reply sometimes,

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Schizo doodle bump

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>>736092255
rumpo bumpo

>>736092113
What did a schizophrenic usually experience?

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>>736092504
>What did a schizophrenic usually experience?
What do you mean?

>>736092113
can you visualize, do you have mind eye?

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>>736092644
>can you visualize, do you have mind eye?
Wait, aren't those just normals things everyone can do?

>>736092113
Do you think about when you get old that your schizophrenia is gonna completely take over your mind and you will only be a shell of a person you once were?

>>736092567
I'm sorry. I mean what do schizophrenia go through that normal people don't have too.

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>>736092778
>Do you think about when you get old that your schizophrenia is gonna completely take over your mind
I think about it quite frequently. I want to say that I'm afraid of that day coming, but I'm not.
>>736092820
>I'm sorry.
It's okay.
>I mean what do schizophrenia go through that normal people don't have too.
That's a really difficult question to answer; as I do not know what it is like to be "normal".

>>736092977
That's just sad man...don't put it like that. Does it have good sides? Is it fun sometimes? What's the names of your friendly friends? Or how even is it manifesting?

>>736092977
I heard that schizophrenic person hear voices.Is that true?and if you don't know what is normal then how do you know you have schizophrenia?

>>736093096
Are you real?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XkZL4NMr4G

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>>736093054
>That's just sad man...
It's just how it is.
>don't put it like that.
Why not? There's no sense in hiding from the truth.
>Does it have good sides?
Everything has good sides. One of the better "qualities" of it is being able to connect with people who have a similar mindset to me.
>Is it fun sometimes?
It's not very often, but it can be. I can get lost in completely different worlds that look nothing like the one we inhabit. Stuff you couldn't even imagine seeing. It can be really beautiful. But there's a flipside to everything.
>>736093096
>I heard that schizophrenic person hear voices.Is that true?
Some do, yes. I happen to hear them as well.
>and if you don't know what is normal then how do you know you have schizophrenia?
A doctor.
>>736093130
>Are you real?
Are YOU real?
>>736093174
I like it.

>>736093291
Is it hard to live with a schizophrenia? Or it's just a mild annoyance?

Are you boy or girl? I know a -kinda-schitzo girl and was wonder what a schitzo would appreciate to make them smile.

>>736093291
How vivid are those worlds? How's the sensory bussiness in those worlds? See/hear/touch being clear sensations. How long can you stay in the same one aprox and how well can you interact with it? Is it like a movie or more like a fucked up fuck me shitty sensless game which you don't really get?

Also, any relation between them and how your general vibe in the moment is?

I'm curious OP

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>>736093256
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XkZL4NMr4G
>that accent
Is that a nzlder I hear?

>How destructive are your voices
On a whole, not very. There is one voice in particular that can be very destructive and has made me have some of the worst panic/anxiety attacks of my life.
>>736093373
>Is it hard to live with a schizophrenia?
It can be very hard. Having zero motivation to do anything at all, not wanting to talk to your friends, or leave the house. Constant noises in my head that make it impossible to concentrate.
>Or it's just a mild annoyance?
The average day is closer to a mild annoyance, but still pretty rough.
>>736093421
>Are you boy or girl
I am a boy.
>was wonder what a schitzo would appreciate to make them smile.
I like it when people attempt to understand what's going on inside my head without any judgment. Being able to connect to someone on that level is quite satisfying.

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>>736093541
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vc8aYDuRwG

Have you ever hurt anyone or come close?

How often do you go off meds, and why?

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>>736093459
>How vivid are those worlds?
More vivid than reality. The closest thing I can relate it to is having a dream that feels like reality but what's happening is nothing close to reality. If you've ever had a dream and wondered if the dream was actually real that's what it feels like.
>How's the sensory bussiness in those worlds? See/hear/touch being clear sensations.
Seeing and hearing is very clear, but touch can be a little off or completely nonexistent sometimes. For the most part, though they're all pretty good. There are times when my senses "feel" more than they do in reality.
>How long can you stay in the same one aprox
Usually between 1-3 hours.
>and how well can you interact with it?
On average I can interact with them a lot. I can change what's happening, "modifying" the rules of the world to see what happens, stuff like that. Or I can interact with the things that are there.
>Is it like a movie or more like a fucked up fuck me shitty sensless game which you don't really get?
I'd say it's more similar to a game, but not shitty at all. Sometimes it can get extremely nonsensical though.
>Also, any relation between them and how your general vibe in the moment is?
Not that I know of.

>>736092113
Can you tell if being schitzo gives you any schitzo specific interests or desires?

Vocaroo-anon, your voice is amazing.

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>>736092113
Hi, I have schizotypal personality disorder. I am from Russia.

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>>736093840
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1N97dsek1Tl

>>736093854
Glad to please.

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>>736093681
>Aussie
Ah, I can't quite differentiate aussie and nz accents.
Your voice is very smooth, I'm sure you get that a lot.
>hmmm, hmmm
Hmmm?
>>736093705
>Have you ever hurt anyone or come close?
Yes, I have hurt too many people.
>>736093718
>How often do you go off meds
Always, I don't take any medication for anything.
>and why?
Because I dislike the idea of medication. It violates my very morals as a person.
>>736093853
>Can you tell if being schitzo gives you any schitzo specific interests or desires?
I don't know if it's related to the Schizo; I am very interested in observing people and things to see how they operate though.
>>736093875
>Hi,
Zdravstvuyte
>I have schizotypal personality disorder
That seems to be fairly common among the chans
>I am from Russia.
Ooh one of my favorite languages.

>>736094089
Why does observation fascinate you?

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>>736094089
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LcuN05kKxr

Have you hurt people physically or mentally? Also, don't you think taking meds to make sure you don't hurt people is more important than your personal disliking of medication?

You retards are only in this thread cause you think OP is a girl.

>Always, I don't take any medication for anything.
>Because I dislike the idea of medication. It violates my very morals as a person.

Gah, you remind me of all my other patients of meds. all the best, hope you take better care of yourself than they do.

OP said they were a guy. I'm here because m y abusive mom has the illness and I wanna understand her better.

>>736093840
Thx op, you're a nice guy.

I know what you mean with the dreams. I was lucid dreaming a while back and i know that they feel much more HD. You can't practicaly function if it can take 3 hours right? I mean for the others your like on 400 of lsd or something. It can be hard for you if you wish to have a "closer to normal" life but i hope your not clinging to those ideas. Life is an adventure anyway, you're just drugged 24/7. If your life is in constant suffering you know it's not worth living, but i'm sure you can, and you should, in your situation reflect on what's going on in a meditative no judging way. It's not like we're all going somewhere and you're the slower one, it's more like we're in a bigass park and do whatever so you happened to be blessed with constant hardcore psyhedelics.

And dude, in my opinion, you can always parachute out and start a new one bruh. If something happens once, is destined to happen again ;)

>>736094253
Op already said he's a boy. There's also voocaroo of him.

The vocaroo-anon isn't OP.

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>>736094006
>I feel they are my reality of the time
That is essentially how I perceive my hallucinations and "internal worlds".
>>736094207
>Why does observation fascinate you?
You know, I'm not 100% sure.
Something about just observing things to see how they cope with things, and how they perceive their own worlds.
If I had to answer it simply, it's because I like to learn about other living things. There's no better way than observing them.
>>736094211
>I never know what to say
I can imagine. It's a strange subject matter. Have you ever considered doing readings or stuff like that? Your voice should be heard by everyone.
>>736094226
>Have you hurt people physically or mentally?
Yes, both.
>don't you think taking meds to make sure you don't hurt people
Well, I haven't hurt anyone in a very long time. So, I'm not terribly worried about that.

>>736092113
I seen you a lot of times here. I must say you're a good boy anon .

If you could choose to get rid of the schizo aspect of yourself, would you? I guess what I want to know is, what bothers you about it? What does it bring to your life that you'd like to keep - or amplify - and what parts of it are holding you back?

Do you ever experience "command" type hallucinations? When the schizo part of you takes effect, how does it usually manifest? Tell me about some memorable experience, if you have the time. Something sacred?

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>>736094350
There was already admission of being a boy, regardless of vocaroo skepticism.

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>>736094260
>Gah, you remind me of all my other patients of meds.
I've found it's a very common thing, a lot of the people I've met who also suffer from a mental illness also feel the same way about meds.
>all the best
Thanks, anon.
>hope you take better care of yourself than they do.
Not really. I'm still alive though, so it can't be too bad.
>>736094303
>I'm here because m y abusive mom has the illness and I wanna understand her better.
I'm more than glad to help you in any way I can.

I know. I wasn't the guy saying we thought OP was a girl. Just wanted to correct you

>>736094563
Was in response to
>>736094512

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>>736094410
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1wTfilZNGZu

>>736094350
>>736094512
I never intended to pose as OP, but merely converse.

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>>736094307
>Thx op
You're welcome.
>you're a nice guy.
I get that a lot, but I tend to disagree.
>You can't practicaly function if it can take 3 hours right?
Not really. I tend to stay in my house 99% of the time. I've never done well in society even as a child.
>It can be hard for you if you wish to have a "closer to normal" life
When I was young I clung to that idea. But, as I've gotten older I don't feel that way anymore. I am who I am.
>If something happens once, is destined to happen again ;)
When that day comes, we'll know.
>>736094441
>I seen you a lot of times here.
I do tend to fairly often.
>I must say you're a good boy anon .
I disagree, but thanks.

What is your source of income, OP?

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>>736094472
>If you could choose to get rid of the schizo aspect of yourself, would you?
I don't think I would.
>I guess what I want to know is, what bothers you about it?
The thing I dislike most about it is having zero motivation to do anything. Feeling like I've constantly got a boulder on my chest keeping me from wanting things.
>What does it bring to your life that you'd like to keep - or amplify -
I'd keep the observation portion of it. Being able to just look at anything and see patterns and be able to understand things on a completely different level than the average person is something I like.
>and what parts of it are holding you back?
Primarily the apathy.
>Do you ever experience "command" type hallucinations?
I have, I've been told to kill people, it can often be associated with an image of whatever I'm being commanded to do.
>When the schizo part of you takes effect, how does it usually manifest?
Mostly I just withdraw completely from everything around me. And just go into my own little world.
>Tell me about some memorable experience, if you have the time. Something sacred?
Hmm, I'll have to think about this for a little bit. I'll come back to it later if I can think of something.

How old are you, OP?

The level of stupidity in this thread is astounding. If you retards want to know what schizophrenia is then open a fucking book or go to a state hospital. It sure as shit won't be someone you see posting bullshit and talking about their faggot feelings with a bunch of strangers. Stop saying you have these incredibly serious mental disorders when it's obvious you are just a lazy piece of shit looking for an excuse to act like an infant so you won't feel bad about your shitty life. Faggot.

>>736095173
OP seems to legit have it, though, no matter how lazy he may or may not be.

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>>736094677
>Edgar Allen Poe
That would be quite interesting to hear. I was thinking of something along those lines.
>isn't as smooth as it could be
I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said anything.
>>736094803
>What is your source of income, OP?
SSI
>>736095054
>How old are you, OP?
25
>>736095173
>The level of stupidity in this thread is astounding.
The word you are looking for is ignorance, not stupidity. There is nothing wrong with ignorance.
>If you retards want to know what schizophrenia is then open a fucking book
A book can only tell you so much.
>or go to a state hospital.
Yes, clearly that's the best way to learn about it. Go see the minority of people who are afflicted with the worst cases of Schizo. That'll teach them something really good.
>about their faggot feelings
I've actually haven't mentioned my feelings.
>so you won't feel bad about your shitty life.
I don't feel bad about my life at all. But clearly, you do.
>you are just a lazy piece of shit
As are most people who are afflicted with Schizophrenia.

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>>736095173
You seem really upset by an ama

>>736094543
For myself - not schizo, but medicated for other reasons - I always felt that meds masked the essential issue. Unsustainably. Sometimes medication isn't a treatment; it's just getting through another few days, or a week, or a month, without dealing with the abscess at the center of your life.

While that's happening - without bringing side effects into the discussion - the meds can suppress some of the best aspects of perception, interrelation - living, in other words. They work for some people. For others, the cure can be worse than the "disease."

In our society, I think too many people reach for medication as a solution - first and foremost - without thinking about mindset or lifestyle or coping strategies. One of my personal heroes, Viktor Frankl, was outspoken on psychotherepeutic treatment of schizophrenics - without drugs. Sometimes it's just better to know - and deal with - something than it is to try to drug it away. I love drugs, btw (can't do them anymore due to work, but I fantasize). I wish it was that easy and beneficial, but so often it just isn't.

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>>736095394
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1b9XaeJAL0u

Hey OP, I hope you have a great day!

I hope you get better, OP.

>>736095707
I don't think OP can "get better", but I do hope OP can cope with their schizophrenia

>>736095024
I understand the apathy, I think. The "boulder on my chest" thing hits home (it did when I was younger, anyway) - bored out of your skull, staring at nothing, feeling pinned there; the absolute lack of energy.

If you come up with an experience, please do post it; I'm curious.

>>736095745
What I meant.

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>>736095454
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MVi1SZIlks

Hope you can fight your depression, vocaroo-anon.

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>>736095446
>You seem really upset by an ama
There's always one.
>>736095454
>They work for some people. For others, the cure can be worse than the "disease."
This has been my experience with all types of medication. Even for something as simple as a headache. I've never taken anti-psychotics but I know people who have, and the thing I always hear is "it makes you feel more empty than the apathy" I'm paraphrasing, of course.
>In our society, I think too many people reach for medication as a solution
I agree, I think medication should be a last ditch effort to get someone out of a terrible downward spiral they can't escape otherwise. But instead, medications are just thrown at the issues with little regard.
>I love drugs, btw
Recreational drugs? I love those too.
>>736095472
>The more I talk the more stressed it gets
Now that you mention it, I can hear a subtle difference from your first vocaroo. I could be crazy (I am).
>>736095623
>Hey OP
Hiya.
>I hope you have a great day!
Thanks anon. I hope you have a great day too.

>>736095472
Work with it just a little bit, and you'd be an great narrator. Seriously, try it out sometime if you don't have anything better to do.

Do you have names for your voices? What do they sound like and what do they tell you?

Fucking Psycho!!!! HAHAHAHAH.
not gunna lie tho ( no homo btw ) you seem kinda cute and I would fuck you like my little boy toy bro
love,
Satan

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>>736095879
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0iDmtbWAe9l

>>736095878
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JtoyPUCVfH

>>736096124
Careful, you might cut yourself on that edge

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>>736095707
>I hope you get better, OP.
It's pretty unlikely, but I appreciate the sentiment.
>>736095745
>I don't think OP can "get better"
It can happen, it's just not super likely.
>but I do hope OP can cope with their schizophrenia
I try my best to.
>>736095754
>feeling pinned there; the absolute lack of energy.
That is essentially how I feel all day, every day.
>If you come up with an experience, please do post it; I'm curious.
Is there a particular "type" of experience you want to know about? I'd be glad to share one it's just difficult to reach in and grab a random thing.
>>736095936
>Do you have names for your voices?
I do not.
>What do they sound like and what do they tell you?
Two are female, one of the two has a raspy voice. Closest I can relate it to is Mio from Nichijou.
The other female has a soft voice.
The third is a male, and has a very quiet voice.
>>736096124
>Fucking Psycho!!!! HAHAHAHAH.
WUAHAHAHAH
>you seem kinda cute
I have been told that I am cute.

>love,
>Satan
My favorite person.
>>736096136
>Confidence
That's to be expected. When I lose my confidence I often lose control of my voice also.

hey bub, do you jack off, and if so, do the voices ever talk to you wile you do it or some crazy shit like that happen?

love,
Satan

p.s. you better fucking answer me cuck

>>736095472
Yeah, that's what I was being prescribed for, at uni. Overworked psych, saw me for half an hour every month. "Hmm... this isn't working. Let's try a higher dose."

Nobody ever thought to say, "hey, look at your lifestyle. The way you're living is killing you." I was too young and boneheaded to get it myself. That sense of urgency you mention, though - I've always wished I had a bit more of it.

>>736092255
That oddly looks like something I would put on a paper which I often do. But I am pretty sure I am not a skitzo

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>>736096380
I was lucky to only need the 37.5mg SR tablets.
Anything higher and I would've got a lot worse with the loss of urgency and lack of caring.

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>>736096347
>do you jack off
Obviously. Though I haven't in close to a week now.
>do the voices ever talk to you wile you do it
Yes, they do. It can often be distracting. They usually talk about unrelated things.
>some crazy shit like that happen?
Nothing really crazy has ever happened I don't think.
>p.s. you better fucking answer me cuck
Don't tell me what to do.
>>736096397
>That oddly looks like something I would put on a paper which I often do.
I think that type of doodle has some correlation to a personality type. That's the way it seems to me.
Perchance, are you an INTP?

hey cutie, do you like an authority? it doesn't take 5 min to type out like 5 responses ( so hurry up with these responses love) . God won't save you when we start dating and I dominate you my psyche cutie. I'm going to snuggle you to do death. Do the voices ever tell you to kill? they tell me that all the time.

Love,
Satan habibi

>>736096576
Myers-Briggs is complete bullshit. I'm not the guy you were replying to, sorry

>>736096726
What the fuck. That isn't even a shitpost

do the voices sound in your head or like right in your ear?

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>>736096726
>do you like an authority?
What?
>it doesn't take 5 min to type out like 5 responses
It doesn't take five minutes to type, it takes five minutes for me to organize my thoughts.
>God won't save you when we start dating
Oh, is that so? You're fairly confident.
>Do the voices ever tell you to kill?
Yes, but it's not very common. Only at my worst does it happen.
>>736096761
>Myers-Briggs is complete bullshit.
I wouldn't go THAT far. It has flaws, but it does retain some validity.
>>736096905
>do the voices sound in your head or like right in your ear?
It's somewhere in between. It's like the voices are leaking out of my head into the real world and I can hear them that way.

>>736096576
>Perchance, are you an INTP?
Yeah, you are right.

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>>736096576
Vocaroo guy here, further question:
Have you been affected by sleep paralysis much?

I've had two notable times, the first I had a smokey skeletal figure reach out with his skeletal hand while I freaked out.
The second was without that figure, but I was overstressed by it.

>>736092113
i have seen this fucking thread 3 times in the past week shut the fuck up

>>736097029
I'm the anon who called it bullshit. I initially also got INTP but it keeps changing. There are people who's results change every week. The test is backwards pseudo-science.

when and how did you or others tell you you should go get diagnosed

>>736097146
Whoa, man, calm down. I haven't.

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>>736092113
did you develop schizophrenia over time? if so, when and how did you notice it

What do you mean what? do you like to be told what to do, dominated. Thats what an authority figure is. damn I want you my cutie. I can imagine you must want to rely on a big strong demon. mmmmmmmm. You struggle with some things so I would come and make you do nothing but wear a skirt and some thigh highs. I would cater to your every whim.

Love,
Satan ;)

>>736097158
I took the test moments ago just for the reply.

>>736096312
Type of experience? The closest I've come to your experience was probably the time I spent with some exotic dissociative drugs.

I felt like I understood some deep, gnostic secret of existence, and I walked around like Buddha walking the earth, just "knowing." The trip aspect went a good deal further, and I wish I could remember or have another chance to experience half of it. The best of those substances is gone for good, and my job/life can't tolerate anything like that, for a few more years at least. Barring long vacations.

I guess I want to know if you had any enlightened, transcendental moments. Some thought or entity that provoked a feeling of deep understanding, or something you found profoundly beautiful.

>The third is a male, and has a very quiet voice.
Arioch?

>>736092113
dont mind me, im just want my (you)

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>>736097079
>Have you been affected by sleep paralysis much?
Actually, I have never had sleep paralysis. I've even tried to induce it (naturally, of course.) I've always wanted to experience it.
>>736097146
>i have seen this fucking thread 3 times in the past week shut the fuck up
Firstly, don't tell me what to do, shitlord.
Secondly, do you post that in all the generals that clog up page one that are reposted literally constantly every day?
>>736097158
>I initially also got INTP but it keeps changing.
That's because you keep changing your answers. That's the flaw with the test, it's a self-report.
>>736097230
>did you develop schizophrenia over time?
I believe I was born with it, actually. But it has worsened over time.
>when and how did you notice it
I noticed it around 20ish. I don't really know how though, I've always known something was off about me.
>>736097246
>What do you mean what?
Your wording was weird.
>do you like to be told what to do, dominated.
Don't know, I've never been dominated.
>damn I want you my cutie. I can imagine you must want to rely on a big strong demon.
I'm not gae tho.

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>>736097254
>Type of experience?
Yea, like is there something you specifically want to know about? It's very difficult for me to just reach into my head and pull out a random idea or memory. I need something to focus on. "Experience" is too vague, I've had many experiences.
>probably the time I spent with some exotic dissociative drugs.
They can put you in a very close to Schizophrenic-like psychotic high.

>I guess I want to know if you had any enlightened, transcendental moments.
I have, and it's the basis for my "religion" (I identify as pantheist). I can't quite explain what happened to make me have that moment of clarity, it was like something just clicked and everything just started to make sense, the more I started to think about it the more it made sense.
>>736097428
>Arioch?
Don't know who that is.
>>736097429
>dont mind me, im just want my (you)
Here (you) go.

woah woah woah, hold on. You telling me that you wouldn't want me todo everything for you and treat your right just because I am a male? I can make you a female, traps aren't gay. and you already watch anime ( I don't because it's a little fruity for my tastes).

seems like it's just you and me in this thread cutie.

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>>736097989
>You telling me that you wouldn't want me todo everything for you and treat your right just because I am a male?
Well, I'm not gay. So, that's essentially it.
>I can make you a female, traps aren't gay.
Pic related
>and you already watch anime
Are you trying to say anime is gay? fite me
>>736098143
>seems like it's just you and me in this thread cutie.
That tends to happen around this time.

I'm lurking

>Mostly I just withdraw completely from everything around me. And just go into my own little world.
So how does it correspond to reality? Do you always recognize it as something separate?

since its just us, let me ask a few questions, how often do you go outside in a social environment? do you think you are submissive in a sense that you can't bring yourself to talk back to someone bigger than you? what religion are you? What do you do to cope with the voices in different situations. lets go my lovely cutie

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>>736098269
>I'm lurking
Hi lurking anon.
>>736098296
>So how does it correspond to reality?
Sometimes it's very similar, sometimes it's completely different. They're never exactly the same.
>Do you always recognize it as something separate?
Not always, sometimes it can feel so real.

>>736097907
I am also a pantheist, lol. Also partly as a result of those experiences. Interesting.

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>>736098391
>how often do you go outside in a social environment?
Basically never. I leave the house 2 times a month to go shopping.
>do you think you are submissive in a sense that you can't bring yourself to talk back to someone bigger than you?
Not at all. I'm actually quite rebellious. I am only submissive in very specific situations.
>what religion are you?
I identify as Panthist, it's closest to what I believe.
>What do you do to cope with the voices in different situations
Usually, I try to ignore them by listening to music or having some sort of stimulation to keep my mind focused on something.
>>736098432
>I am also a pantheist
I only identify as Pantheist, it's the closest thing to describe my belief system.

Do the voices ever just argue with eachother and ignore that you're there? Also does that mean that you're never lonely?

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>>736098706
>Do the voices ever just argue with eachother and ignore that you're there?
It's very rare, but they do talk/argue amongst themselves sometimes.
>Also does that mean that you're never lonely?
I don't really get lonely, I don't think? I don't really know what it feels like to be lonely.

I heard that people with schizophrenia are born with it however it is most of the time 'activated' via use of drugs, most often being weed. If you 'activated' yours with weed, was it worth it?

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>>736092113
Why do you post this thread so often? I've seen this thread go on since around mid last month.

being lonely is a sadness brought on by a sense of nothingness due to the fact that you have no body.

What do you do all day my cutie? Would you let a girl love you?

Do the voices in your head have different accents?

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>>736098949
>I heard that people with schizophrenia are born with it however it is most of the time 'activated' via use of drugs
That is one theory of how it can happen.
>If you 'activated' yours with weed
I don't think I did.
>>736098982
>Why do you post this thread so often?
Something to do. I don't post them THAT often. I make then like once a day for a couple of days then disappear for a week or two.>>736099046
>being lonely is a sadness brought on by a sense of nothingness
Hm, I don't really feel sadness. I really only feel empty.
>What do you do all day my cutie?
Play vidya, watch animu and post on /b/.
>Would you let a girl love you?
It depends.

holarchy

>>736098982
Could be more than one whack job, if not he's crazy he probably doesn't even remember his own name

Subs or dubs?

>>736099276
Nah, he's the same guy. You can tell because every time he posts the OP picture is usually the same girl.

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>>736099175
>Do the voices in your head have different accents?
No, the only identifier for them is the pitch of their voice.
I myself tend to speak with random accents uncontrollably though.
>>736099254
>holarchy
holarchy?
>>736099276
>Could be more than one whack job
Nope, it's just me.
>if not he's crazy
>Ask a Schizophrenic anything
It literally says "As a crazy person anything" in the OP.

Guessing Shinobu is your waifu then?

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>>736099370
>Subs or dubs?
Why not both?
>>736099393
>You can tell because every time he posts the OP picture is usually the same girl.
If it's me making the thread I always use the same pictures.
>>736099469
>Guessing Shinobu is your waifu then?
Mhm.

Can you have a relevant converaation with the voices based on the situation, such as asking their opinion on something, or dont they work that way?

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>>736099686
>Can you have a relevant converaation with the voices based on the situation, such as asking their opinion on something
Mhm, that's how the average conversation goes between them and myself. Either I'll ask something and they'll respond. Or they'll point something out that has happened and we'll talk about that for a while.

Another thing on the voices, but it only applies if you are bilingual or more. Do the voices only speak in english?

have you ever thought about the fact that the voices are simply manifestations of your own mind and how normal people don't have to deal with it?

>>736099820
>>736099686
been lurking and your story seems 100% bullshit. real life schizophrenia is nothing like this/that. yes, movies tell you it's like having different people in your head and whatnot.

but that's pretty much bs.

Are the voices dicks/mean, friendly or kinda neutral?

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>>736099982
>Do the voices only speak in english?
They do sometimes speak Japanese, but I think it's mostly gibberish.
>>736100025
>have you ever thought about the fact that the voices are simply manifestations of your own mind
Yes, I used to contemplate this all the time. Not so much anymore though after I came to the conclusion that the voices are just part of me I didn't see much of a need to continue thinking about it.

>>736092113
Listen kid, artificial attention is for kids.

Cut your wrist vertically and you get real attention!

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>>736100199
>real life schizophrenia is nothing like this/that.
Where are you basing this information?
>movies tell you it's like having different people in your head
And there is some validity to that claim. There are voices in my head that talk to me. People talk to me. Voices are like people, minus the people.
>>736100254
>Are the voices dicks/mean, friendly or kinda neutral?
One is friendly, one is kind of a bitch, and one is a quiet/neutral type.

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>>736100401
>Listen kid, artificial attention is for kids.
Listen, Grandpa. What does that even mean?
>Cut your wrist vertically and you get real attention!
Nah, I'm not that much of an attention whore.

>>736100470
>Where are you basing this information?
From articles and interviews with real schizophrenic people. It is indeed a serious mental illness, but it's rather different from the thing you see in TV.

From so far I see simple autism and pedophilia. But that's nothing special, this describes 50% of the site really.

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>>736100661
>but it's rather different from the thing you see in TV.
That's everything though. TV is just a dramatization of real things.

I've met full blown Schizophrenic people (way worse than I am). And almost every single one I've met talk to their voices.

I think you're confusing "not like having people in your head" with "having multiple personalities".

What is the strength of your memory out of ten? Ten being the best memory skills of anyone you've met and 0 being you often forget what you had for breakfast.

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I cant help but feel OP is a double nigger. But to bite.
I'm a skitzo, visual and auditory hallucinations (like hearing voices) only come with what is none as "positive" symptoms.
These are the episodes when you are full blown mental, delusional.
Not a nice feeling tbqh,when I had it I knew I was going mental and i was pleading to the higher forces not to let me lose my mind.
Then I lost my mind and went down the rabbit hole of nonsense.

The after effects once you have come back to sanity are known as the "negative" symptoms.
these are the real bread and butter of being a skitzo.
This is the shit I have to deal with on a daily basis.
No motivation, lack of sleep up to and including insomnia (fatigue, cannot sleep, over sleep, constantly tired, cannot focus/concentrate) depression, lack of desire, not able to experience pleasure in anything or any emotions, avoid people, no socializing. the list goes on.

For me this shit is soul crushing, as I wanted to have a nice life, I enjoyed socializing, travelling.
Now I find it hard to get out of bed most days.

Statistically only about 30% of people fully recover from skitzo and go back into normie society, job, house, wife, kids etc
I'm pretty much fucked, my future is bleak and every day is a grind.
I just have to hold on to whatever creature comforts I can find, which for me is booze and vidya. Because tbh, there will be a time when I will an hero. The stats for skitzo an hero is sky high. I think about it every day and all it takes is a bad day for me to just get it over an done with.

>>736100199
>>736100470
>Where are you basing this information?
>>736100661

I'm >>736101059
and I think OP's story is bullshit too
The ironic thing is that people who hear voices, are delusional, and actually do not believe they are crazy at all.OP accepts that he has a mental illness, so he is already recovered from his delusions.
so why would he be hearing voices!
this is pretty much OP on a quest for (you)s

In case it isn't, does OP care to tell us the treatment he has gone through.
As a diagnosed skitzo he would have gone through the standard treatment, and more if he is paranoid skitzo.

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>>736101020
>What is the strength of your memory out of ten?
Somewhere between 0/10 and 11/10. There are times I can recall every detail of a memory down to a number of buttons on someone's shirt (that's slightly exaggerated, but you get the point). Then there's times I can't even remember what I said or did 10 minutes ago.
>>736101059
>I cant help but feel OP is a double nigger.
Did you just assume my nigger? I identify as a triple nigger, you cis white scum.

>No motivation, lack of sleep up to and including insomnia
This is my life too. I can't keep a normal sleeping schedule. I'm constantly sleeping either 2 hours or 15 hours. Getting too much sleep or none at all.

>as I wanted to have a nice life, I enjoyed socializing, travelling.
There was a time when I wanted a normal nice life too. But that's the past, and I'm not going to have that.
>>736101386
>and actually do not believe they are crazy at all

>Because some people don't accept that they're crazy, that means no one who is crazy is allowed to accept they're crazy
?????
What kind of nonsense is this shit?
>so he is already recovered from his delusions
No, I just accept they are delusions. I still believe them 100%.
It's like having cancer, accepting you are going to die from cancer doesn't cure it, and it definitely doesn't stop you from dying from the cancer.

>>736092113
do you see anime characters in the corners of your eyes?

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>>736101386
Forgot this
>In case it isn't, does OP care to tell us the treatment he has gone through.
I did a bit of psychotherapy, got annoyed with the therapist and stopped going. All she did was say shit I already knew.
>so why would he be hearing voices!
Because the voices have nothing to do with what I believe. You're clearly baiting now, you can just ask for the free (you). You don't have to bait for it.

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>>736095173
kill you're are self

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>>736101934

What's the Health system like where you're from?
since you don't take medication I assume you don't have universal healthcare where you are forced by law to take meds.
What country are you in?
Have you been to a healthcare ward? What moment in your stay in a ward do you often remember as being enjoyable story or anecdote?

>>736101059
>>736101386
I am the other anon who questioned his posts.
He is an avatarfag, which pretty much shows how much of an attention-whore he is. He CRAVES for (you)s.
And this was one way to get them.

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>>736101624
>>Because some people don't accept that they're crazy, that means no one who is crazy is allowed to accept they're crazy
wtf is this shit. read my post, it is perfect english other than I did not put a space after the . and before the OP

>No, I just accept they are delusions. I still believe them 100%.
see this is where you have just proved you are an attention seeking faggot.
NO ONE who is delusional knows that they are delusional, this is psychosis, the first step of schizophrenia. Unless of course you are a special snowflake, medical anomaly.
You have not got a clue about this illness at all and despite this being a latvian weightlifting website I actually feel offended that we have dumb cunt niggers like you pretending to have a debilitating illness just to get (you)s
if you wanted attention start a meaningful discussion or a trap thread, don't pretend you have an illness that other anons have to suffer daily with just because your anime loving, basement dwelling, cock sucking life is shit.

LITTERALLY kill yourself

>>736102185
100% agreed.

time for an indiegogo thread to buy OP a rope.

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>>736102062
>What's the Health system like where you're from?
I live in America, so it's pretty shitty.
>ince you don't take medication I assume you don't have universal healthcare where you are forced by law to take meds.
Yup.
>Have you been to a healthcare ward?
Thankfully, no. I've tried my best to avoid them at all costs.

>>736102075
I only avatarfag in these threads so anons can keep track of my posts.
>>736102185
>NO ONE who is delusional knows that they are delusional
I am NOT DELUSIONAL RIGHT NOW. I'm actually quite lucid as you can tell by my ability to have fluent and coherent conversations fairly easily.
When I AM delusional I have NO FUCKING CLUE. It's almost like you think someone who suffers from psychosis has it 100% of the time. SPOILER ALERT THAT ISNT THE CASE MOST OF THE TIME.
Fuck, you're annoying.

>>736102075
yeah anon, he has no clue about this illness at all, he is just trying to imitate some shit he has seen on one of his anime crap.

s.a.g.e

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>>736102463
>trying to imitate some shit he has seen on one of his anime crap.
Anime? about Schizophrenia? I'd totally watch that. Now I have to see if that's a thing.

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>>736102444
>auditory hallucinations
>not delusions

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>>736102820
>auditory hallucinations
>not delusions

>He doesn't even know the difference between a delusion and a hallucination
Clearly, you have never suffered from either of them.
Delusions are faults in your thought process.
Hallucinations are faults in your perception.
Completely different.

I have a brother who is schitzo.
Before he got on medication he was a violent selfish little asshole. Now he is being medicated he is like a walking zombie. Not sure what meds he is on because he has to have a nurse come every day and open a little lock box to give his meds.
He also will not quit smoking weed even though it makes him much much worse.
Any advice in dealing with him? i have pretty much given up on even talking to him at this point.

>>736102992
u got a shinobu tulpa? fugg

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>>736103293
>I have a brother who is schitzo.
Sorry to hear that, anon.
>He also will not quit smoking weed even though it makes him much much worse.
Good luck getting him to quit, it's basically impossible.
I totally get why he'd smoke though. It makes me feel normal for a short amount of time, but actually makes me much, much worse.
>Any advice in dealing with him?
There isn't a whole lot you can do if he doesn't want to be helped, ya know? The best you can do is be there for him if he does want it. Sorry, I don't have more than that.
>>736103369
>u got a shinobu tulpa? fugg
Shiiiiet, I wish.

>>736102992
>Delusions are faults in your thought process.
>Hallucinations are faults in your perception
your last (you) from me faggot.
you have not got a clue what you are talking about. auditory hallucinations are a part of psychosis, they are only manifest once one is delusional. once delusional, one does not know they are delusional.
The person suffering from schizophrenia does not even accept the diagnosis.
looking at your shitposts above you have never been in a mental hospital, so you would not have seen a psychiatrist, and you said you saw a shrink once (a career who cannot diagnose the illness or prescribe anti psychotics)

so you being an idiot faggot have just diagnosed yourself haven't you.
essentially a thread long shitpost.

KILL YOURSELF for the betterment of mankind.
It's what this world deserves, less of faggots like you in it.

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>>736103626
>auditory hallucinations are a part of psychosis
Yes, psychosis is the general description of hallucinations AND delusions.
>they are only manifest once one is delusional
This is only true in SOME cases. My auditory hallucinations persist even when I am not psychotic, but my visual ones are only around when I am psychotic.
>once delusional, one does not know they are delusional.
I literally said that is true. In the moment of a delusion, it's basically impossible to know that you are delusional. But after the episode has gone, if you still remember what happened, you can tell where your thinking was wrong.
>The person suffering from schizophrenia does not even accept the diagnosis.
Again, this is only in the WORST cases. Which make up something like 30% of Schizo cases.

Stop trying to say that the worst of the Schizophrenics are the whole of them. That's not the case. It's like saying "people who have cancer always die from cancer!" It's just ignorant.

>so you would not have seen a psychiatrist
Yes, this is correct. I saw a psychologist she recommended me a psychiatrist and told me I should be on medication. I refused and said I was not interested in doing that. That is when I did therapy with that psychologist.

>your last (you) from me faggot.
Fucking finally.

Bomp

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Welp, It's about time for me to get some sleep.
Goodnight to anyone still lurking.

how dos someone enter ayame jp?

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>>736102185
>NO ONE who is delusional knows that they are delusional
Have you ever gotten drunk? Have you ever, while completely intoxicated, had a moment of lucidity? Completely clear thinking, yet delusionally drunk otherwise?

Imagine if that lucidity was the average state, and that drunken idiocy just randomly happened (which can happen to some people if they eat too much sugar or pasta/certain carbs).

It's really not that difficult to comprehend if you have a quarter of a brain cell.
>I mean, your mongoloid rage is basically a worse delusion that forces you to project your ignorance and simplicity outward in a retarded angst-anger fuckchild.

Your delusions of normalcy make me moist, faggot.

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>>736092113
A kindred spirit!
>I'd say that I'm schizophrenic, but all of my delusions are fundamentally based in reality. Furthermore, they don't go away by my thinking about them, and no one has ever tried to tell me that my thinking is deluded.
>>Why does how you are bother you? No matter who you are, you are wonderful.

>>736103293
I have schizophrenia. It's a difficult disease to work with. There were times when I thought I killed my uncle, or that my parents murdered my mum. These weren't delusions I went in and out of. I held them for 36 years. For that time I did my best to step on eggshells around my family. I was never violent but I would tend to avoid family gatherings and so on.
The way you talk about you're brother seems like you've detached fully from him. You've bullied him physically or verbally.
Those moments aren't easily forgotten when you suffer schizophrenia. Often going over them until they dissipate can take decades but if not dealt with, sit like a lump in your head gathering emotions of mistrust and hatred. Always looking for a repeat in the domination. Sometimes attributing the bullying to a form of domination that may have cause serious deviations in the natural occurance of his life. If I wasn't dominated by my brother that one time... he owes me. Mostly making accounts for the amount of damage caused by that one reckless act and using that one moment as an inference for all other acts you portray to him.
You may not even remember what you said or did to him but he sure would.
For 36 years I thought my parents killed my mother and only now am I coming out of it. My mind creates a delusion and even if I rectify a delusion another perhaps less serious delusion will take it's place. That's the thing it takes time. A whole lot of time. More than you can perceive. A lifetime. But the more he sees you as non threatening the more he'll have space in his head to close the tabulating of accounts of what you owe him and rationalise the moment leading him to a mentally healthier place.
I one day hope to be 100% but it takes time. A lot of time. But I'm willing to do it.
If you want to help your brother you don't have to reach out to him. Just when you're interacting with him don't bully or dominate in any way.
Also switch your brother's weed to an indica.

>>736092113
do you have any super schizotard power?

Do you have any knowledge on medications?
Do you have any idea how helpful they are?
Do you not take a pill when having a headache?
Don't you take anything when having a flu?
If you had diabetes wouldn't you take your medicine?
Do you have any idea of how moronic and stupid is to not take medications?
With antidepressants you would be able to do things you don't desire at least! like working and doing exercise. And there are so much to choose from!
Also there are antipsychotics which will help you to annul the undesirable effects from the schizophrenia with few side effects taking into account that we have atypical antipsychotics now.
You don't know how blessed we are for having this kind of thing around.
Also, I'm a fellow schizophrenic.

>>736092113
When did you first know your were schizophrenic? What were the first signs?

>>736092113
Hmm...are you a pedophile or something?

>>736092113
What common stereotypes of schizophrenia are inaccurate?

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Well, I was gonna go to bed. But I got a headache laying in bed.
>>736106051
>how dos someone enter ayame jp?
No idea.
>>736106657
>A kindred spirit!
Hiya.
>Why does how you are bother you?
It doesn't really bother me
>>736106853
>do you have any super schizotard power?
Maybe? I dunno.
>>736106876
>Do you have any knowledge on medications?
Not really.
>Do you have any idea how helpful they are?
I've heard they can be very helpful, and very unhelpful. It all depends on the person.
>Do you not take a pill when having a headache?
Nope, I don't take medication for anything.
>Don't you take anything when having a flu?
Nope.
>If you had diabetes wouldn't you take your medicine?
Nope
>Do you have any idea of how moronic and stupid is to not take medications?
Yes, I am aware
>With antidepressants you would be able to do things you don't desire at least!
That's not necessarily true

>>736106752
>>736106876
anons we have already ascertained that OP is attention seeking and not actually schizophrenic at all.
he hasn't even ever seen a psychiatrist, the only person who can actually diagnose this illness.
he has been pretending to get (you)s.
look at his posts.
don't bump this thread

>>736104140
I've been lurking for a while and wondering a couple things.

>1. Have you ever recorded yourself when hallucinations hit you hard?
>2. Have you ever thought of analyzing yourself when hallucinating by setting up a vid/cam and then letting go?
>3. If 2 may produce particularly unpleasant results, what about talking through what's going on, what you experience, your senses, how the world changed into a voice recorder?
>4. Have you ever considered writing a book about this stuff? Like what goes on in the other worlds, how it leads up, how you come back, etc.? I think it'd be pretty interesting.

And, for the most part, I'm curious if the voices aren't like... mm, I'm not a /lit/fag, but an autist-STEMfag, so I don't know the best way to ask it/relate the question.
>Normals tend to explain their conscience as a voice in their head (I don't experience this), like an AI but in a familiar voice, and it's often judgmental or hypercritical or impulsive/compelling.
>What if your voices are equivocal to failed attempts at copying or advancing the AI to fit your brain?
>Rather than changing over the years as a singular entity, yours split and became distinct entities.

Of course, there's also the spoopy/mystic explanation that was posed to many schizophrenics growing up in ages past, which is that the voices and hallucinations come from other worlds and you're like a received in the midst of many universes. That's also how a lot of witchdoctors and oracles interpreted it, though the crusades and holy wars that followed have me questioning what exactly they'd thought was "speaking" through the people affected with schizophrenia.

>>736092113
why you are such a fag?
why havent you killed yourself yet?

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>>736106955
>When did you first know your were schizophrenic?
I didn't KNOW, until I was told. But I suspected something was wrong when I was in my early 20s.
>What were the first signs?
My earliest symptoms were really vivid visual hallucinations and attacks of severe paranoia for no reason.
>>736107242
>What common stereotypes of schizophrenia are inaccurate?
That Schizos are all aggressive and have "people" living in their head.
>>736107319
>anons we have already ascertained
You haven't ascertained shit, anon.

>>736107546
Ah, and I suppose I should ask if >>736106415
is an accurate summation or analogy.

[For amusement: there was an old study done between the 60's and 90's on the potential of LSD-type chemicals having a trickle-down effect into children, akin to what trippers experience as delayed/spinal fluid delusions. If I find the article I'd read it in I'll post it in a future thread.]

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>>736107349
>Have you ever recorded yourself when hallucinations hit you hard?
No, recording myself makes me very uncomfortable.

>Have you ever thought of analyzing yourself when hallucinating by setting up a vid/cam and then letting go?
Nope, "letting go" isn't something I do. I try my best to keep my composure as best as I can.
>If 2 may produce particularly unpleasant results, what about talking through what's going on
I talk to myself a lot, especially when I'm psychotic and it's usually about what I'm experiencing.
>Have you ever considered writing a book about this stuff?
I have, but it's insanely difficult to put what happens into words. It's like there are no words for what is happening. I would love to be able to do it.
>Rather than changing over the years as a singular entity, yours split and became distinct entities.
Hmm, that's "kind of" how it is, but also not?
>>736107436
>why you are such a fag?
Why not?
>why havent you killed yourself yet?
Don't feel like it.

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>>736107245
Are you happy?

>>736107879
>spinal fluid delusions
I have had spiritual hallucinations messing with tantra, using the spinal energies.
Schizophrenia is supposed to be a brain chemical issue, then the negative symptoms are actually a brain disease.
The brain chemicals obviously come from the spinal/cerebral system.
OP hasn't got a fucking clue about any of this though

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>>736107879
>and I suppose I should ask if >>736106415
>is an accurate summation or analogy.
It's not quite correct. But it makes sense as an analogy.
When you're psychotic you usually don't really know. You get this "feeling" that something is "off" and shit just feels weird and everything looks strange.
But with drinking, you know you're drunk, you chose to be drunk. (unless you got your drink spiked lel)
>If I find the article I'd read it in I'll post it in a future thread
I look forward to it
>>736108093
>Are you happy?
I don't really feel any positive or negative emotions.

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>>736108298
Do you want to?
>If not, why?
>>A state of satori is a wonderful thing.

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>>736108888

>>736101059
THIS!
I have schizophrenia and this Anon describes it perfectly. It's a truly hellish condition to have. As he says everyday is a grind and the urge to an hero is very high. Also having a normal life is virtually impossible.

>>736107880
>No, recording myself makes me very uncomfortable.
Ahh, understandable.

>I talk to myself a lot
I suppose the easiest way to go about the book may be the voice recording option, but, as above.

>but also not?
How not?
I have a relative case of synaesthesia to go along with high functioning autism, and I can understand the difficulty of explaining some sensory information.
>e.g. - I tried to bake my own version of jalapeno poppers and used a common recipe, but somehow fucked it up so bad it tasted like peanut butter while it made me feel uncomfortably "snug," almost like a soft polyester-wool blanket wrapped around my skin.
>And it's difficult to explain to others how voices work; I can visually see a small, animate stream of colour coming from a person.
>And then I can hear either electricity or light... so I'll know when a light or a television in the attic is on, even if I'm just coming up from the basement.

>>736108204
I'd meant more like the remnants of the parent's LSD-type chemical trips could have been passed on to the child's spinal fluids, as opposed to the odd hibernation periods they can go through, what with late releases/delayed hallucinations.

>>736108298
Haha, no spiking here.

There are some cases where people don't intend to get drunk, but report an "off" feeling after eating too much pasta or sugar unknowingly, and end up horrendously drunk. I think I understand the differentiation you're pointing toward though.

>>736108888
Damn, quads checked.

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>>736108888
>Those repeating digits

>Do you want to?
I assume you are referring to feeling emotions?
No, I don't really want to.
>If not, why?
Why... They don't feel good.

How do you deal with the intruders?
Do you yell at them?

>>736109097
>.> emotions don't feel good
hallucinations,,,
could hallies be ur emotions O.o

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>>736109097
I think the good ones feel good, and it is very possible to be happy always. You just have to ask yourself what it would take to get there, and what it would take to become willing to change who you are right now.
>Individuals are always changing. Let go of who you think you are, and you will be who you want.

>>736092113
hey havent seen you in a while?
whats wrong?

>>736109298
I like your positive attitude.
>I disagree that it's possible to be happy always.
>Even the most successful people, by their own standards, are not happy always. They still feel frustration, sadness, remorse, anger, envy(?), but they don't let those emotions stick.
>Will agree you have put in effort to be happy, though. Once you're happy, you're happy anywhere; but if you're not, the only happiness is fleeting at best.

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>>736109069
>I suppose the easiest way to go about the book may be the voice recording option, but, as above.
That book would be complete nonsense if I did it like that. lel

>How not?
It's just the way I perceive it. I don't think there was any literal splitting, but it feels like there was.
>>736109249
>How do you deal with the intruders?
Uhh.. What?
>>736109297
>could hallies be ur emotions
I've thought about that before. The voices I hear are kind of like emotions, minus the feelings.
>>736109298
>I think the good ones feel good
The good ones only feel good for a tiny amount of time, then they drop back down to below the negative. I'd rather just not feel them at all.
>>736109316
>hey
Hi
>havent seen you in a while?
I just started making the threads again a few days ago.
>whats wrong?
Nothing.

>>736109636
No intrusive thoughts?

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>>736109543
I'm not the Most successful person, but I am happy always. I wouldn't even say that I'm better than someone who's not always happy. I just am who I am, and have let go of all reasons to not be happy.
>If you think there's anything left to let go of, you have yet to let go completely.

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>>736109636
Anon, that's so sad....
I'm an internet stranger and I want you to be happy.
>Regardless, it is your solemn duty to learn how to enjoy yourself. If you're not living the life that makes you the happiest, do you not owe it to yourself to find out how to get there?
>>You Can get there. I got there, and I have complete faith that everyone can. In particular, you can get there.

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>>736109744
>No intrusive thoughts?
Oh, is that what you meant by intruders?
Yea, I have those. I don't yell at them, but I usually wind up telling them to shut the fuck up, saying something like "you're retarded for thinking that" stuff like that.

What made you seek help?

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>>736109916
>Anon, that's so sad....
Don't be sad.
>I'm an internet stranger and I want you to be happy.
I appreciate that, anon.
>you not owe it to yourself to find out how to get there?
I've been there, and the same thing has always happened. It's like having a rug pulled out from under your feet and then falling through the floor only to land in hell.
>>736110171
>What made you seek help?
Actually, it was sleep issues that made me seek help.

>>736092113
Hey, your thoughts on schizophrenia in the context of shamanism? Do you accept the commonly held view of it being a defect/disease, or maybe something more mysterious? Cultures with an intact tradition of shamanism like for example in south america or eurasian nomads treat the issue quite differently. They sort themselves out and explore their 'delusions', and often go on to become traditional healers and are not treated as social outcasts.

Also you mentioned you like drugs. What types are you most drawn to? Inhibiotry drugs to get some peace, or do you like to go deep? How do you respond to psychedelics?

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I simply was unhappy with how things were. I wanted to be happy, and Alan Watts told me via youtube that it was possible to always be happy. I started learning with an open mind, and now I'm never not happy.
>satori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUkDY5yzYb8&feature=youtu.be

After your diagnosis how hard was it getting SSI?

>>736110517
Hypnotoad is irrelevant. Be happy!
>>736110356
Once you learn to love hell, you will realize that you are in heaven.

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>>736110356
Also, just because you're not there right now, doesn't meant that you couldn't be there right now (provided that you'd previously taken the steps to get there). You can also get there, starting right now! Start asking yourself how. You will get there eventually, and you don't ever have to leave again unless You want to.

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>>736110500
>Hey
Hiya.
>your thoughts on schizophrenia in the context of shamanism?
I don't have enough knowledge of Shamanism to have any real opinions about it.
>Do you accept the commonly held view of it being a defect/disease
I think it's a little bit more complex than that, but I don't really know, myself.
>What types are you most drawn to?
I mostly smoke the ganja
>How do you respond to psychedelics?
Never done any, though I want to some day
>>736110517
>Alan Watts
The best philosopher.
>>736110519
>After your diagnosis how hard was it getting SSI?
I am not on SSI for the Schizo.
>>736110741
I have no desire to be there though.

Hey OP, I have a question. My girlfriend hears voices and noises sometimes and she has panic attacks around once a week.
Shes 16 (switzerland, so legal) and she worries sometimes about getting shizophrenia in her later life. Do you think she could get it and if so, how do you think we can avoid it?

Every you is the best philosopher.

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>>736111012
Ask yourself why you don't want to be there. I'm there, and telling you that it's wonderful. I'm also saying that you can be there too.

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>>736111082
>Hey OP
Hi, anon.
>Do you think she could get it
I mean, it's entirely possible. But, I'm no doctor, so I don't really know.
>how do you think we can avoid it?
Apart from avoiding recreational drugs, I don't know if there is a way to avoid it.
>>736111110
So close.

>>736111376
It's ok when it doesn't happen right away. I've gotten septs before, so I'm set.
>It is always ok when it doesn't happen.
>>It will happen eventually, and that will be great.

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>>736111466
>inb4 idk what will happen
you don't need to know.
>inb4 how do I know it will be great
Why would it not be? One reason could be that you're expecting it to be not great. Don't get in your own way! Great things will come.

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>>736111259
>Ask yourself why you don't want to be there.
I don't have to ask myself, I already know why. It's not worth the effort, I know this to be true.
>>736111466
Huh?

Do people ever bully you for it and if so whats the worst thing? (Only if youre comfortable talking about it)

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>>736111638
It is completely worth the effort!
>You, as you are right now, know that it isn't true.
>>You, as you would be happy all the time, might disagree.

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Also, why'd you stop emailing that guy? He seems nice.

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>>736111994
Or, could be my own delusion. If you didn't email someone, don't worry about it!

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>>736111590
>you don't need to know.
That's just the thing, I know what's going to happen. The same thing that happens every single time.
>>736111722
>Do people ever bully you for it and if so whats the worst thing?
Minus the occasional rude dude in these threads, no.
>>736111765
>It is completely worth the effort!
It most certainly is not worth it.
It's like breaking out of prison, sure you'll be out for a few days, or a few hours, and that time might be great. But you're going to get caught, and you're going to go back to prison, and it IS going to be worse.
I would rather feel nothing than a few moments of joy followed by endless pain. I'll take a big pass on that.
Happiness is only an illusion we create for ourselves to hide from the cruelty of the world.

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>>736111994
>Also, why'd you stop emailing that guy?
Which guy?
I haven't emailed anyone forms these threads in a long time.

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>>736112133
Anon, happiness is real as love.
History repeats itself until it changes.
>I love you, and if we never meet, someone else will love you more. Have faith in that!

>>736112254
last night? or this morning. Again, if at all

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>>736112311
>Anon, happiness is real as love.
I never said it wasn't real. I just said it's an illusion. Subjectively, obviously, it exists.
But love is just a chemical reaction in your brain to make you procreate and continue the species. It's just an illusion.
>>736112362
>last night? or this morning.
Might have the wrong anon then.

Hey OP! Thanks for all this information, I'm writing a story and one of my characters have schizophrenia, I didn't wanted to make him like all the other typical characters so this threat helped me a lot, reading about your condition was amazing and now I know what to do, I hope you have a nice day and I hope you don't get any worse

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>>736112506
I probably do have the wrong anon. I'm just always willing to take a chance.
>>736112506
Does it matter what love is? It feels wonderful when it's present.

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>>736112582
>Hey OP!
Hiya
>Thanks for all this information
You're welcome.
>I'm writing a story and one of my characters have schizophrenia
You should post it in one of these threads when you're finished. I'd love to read it.

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>When OP's just a tulpafag fishing for (yous)
You /b/tards need to get educated.

>>736111012
Since you like Watts, any experience with meditation?

Also, ever experimented with different diets? I've read some interesting stuff about the correlation of inflammation and schizophrenia/autism. Some success for some people working that angle.

>>736092113
Wanna fug?

>>736112506
>I never said it wasn't real. I just said it's an illusion. Subjectively, obviously, it exists.
>But love is just a chemical reaction in your brain to make you procreate and continue the species. It's just an illusion.
SO is everything, everything you, touch, smell, hear, see, taste
Music is an illusion in your terms, smoking a j is an illusion
Look, if you oversimplify anything it becomes sad, but when you have so many brain cells all working together to create something big, thats not an illusion anymore, thats life.
Like your computer, 1 cable is nothing but put a lot of cables and metal together and you get beauty

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>>736112982
It's irrelevant. If anything I say helps even one person even slightly, it elevates my state of being.
>Your increased happiness is making me more powerful

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>>736112708
>Does it matter what love is?
It does, when it isn't real.
>It feels wonderful when it's present.
And then them moment it's gone, it's nothing but despair.
I'd rather feel nothing.
>>736112982
>When OP's just a tulpafag fishing for (yous)
Actually, I've never messed with the Tulpas. I did some research into it but that's it.
>>736113001
>any experience with meditation?
I have tried meditation a few times, I still do it on occasion. It is very relaxing.
>Also, ever experimented with different diets?
No, but I probably should.
>>736113024
>Wanna fug?
You again?
I don't know you, anon.

>>736113146
>wow as if.
>Your attempt to play it cool is fueling the darkness inside your heart Anon.
>Let it Out!

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>>736113041

>>736092113
Fellow shizo here.
There are all kind of shizophrenia.
It's not exaclty a question but I often have problems taking "reality" apart from dreams. But it doesnt matter in the end.

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>>736113223
Love is objectively real to all of its subjects.
Do not despair, because that will get in the way of you finding the best love you've yet to know. Despair will also lessen any love you could be feeling.

>>736113351
In the end, it doesnt even matteeerrrrr

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[email protected]

OP, if you ever want to talk about anything, email me. I'll give my all to help you if you're willing.

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>>736092113
A friend of mine is schizo and currently in a heavy psychosis. He doesn't want any meds and doesn't realise he is schizo. Recently he is obsessed by god, the devil, baphomet, good, evil etc etc. He thinks he is a messiah and has to save the world using terror music, any advice for him?

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>>736113041
>Music is an illusion in your terms,
No, actually it isn't. Music can exist without your perception of it. Your emotions cannot exist without you. They are created by you, and do not exist outside of your perception.
Emotions are 100% subjective, and thus merely illusions.
>>736113351
>Fellow shizo here.
Hi there, schzbo
>I often have problems taking "reality" apart from dreams
I know the feeling.
>>736113379
>Love is objectively real to all of its subjects.
Love is subjectively real. Meaning it does not exist outside of your perception. Water is objectively real, not emotions.

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>>736113569
It exists between other people who are not within my perception. To me, that is objective, because it is not necessarily subject to my knowing about it. Email me if you want to.>>736113538
>>736113549
Show him how to change the world for the better, and kindly remind him that other people are just as important as he is from each of their own perspectives. Terror music probably won't help people, but rather make them afraid. If they're afraid of him, how can he save them effectively?

>>736113569
Since when did your "abnormalities" began.
As far as I can remember it began for me with 5. It began with daily nightmares. That's Why I think this is the "real" world in the first place. Because it was existing first. Or did I just wake up? 笑

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This is my last post then I'm off for the day, if anyone wants to keep contact they're more than welcome to add my kik [see below]
>>736113538
You can add my kik if you want: SchziOP
I don't really use email at all.
>>736113549
>any advice for him?
Unfortunately, I don't really have any advice.

What was it like when you got diagnosed? How do you deal with said diagnosis? Do you love me?

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>>736113549
Also, art is dank af

>>736113569
Emotions can exist in anything with enough brain capacity to perceive them, and love being one of the most complex, is one that only humans and a few other animals can perceive.
But lets stick to the computer example, pretend all animals are types of computers. Youd need a supercomputer to process love whereas youd just need a basic calculator to process music.
Can a rock listen to music, can it be affected by it? no, because its not alive, but can a trees growth be affected by music? it most certainly can. Same with love if that makes sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SQocF2wBUE

>>736113751
Thanks for the sweet advice, i'll try that.

>>736113223
Yeah meditation should be right up your alley since the main goal is getting the mind to shut up.

Seems to be a pretty solid case for the inflammation connection, tons of stuff on google scholar about it. Mostly about it being the ultimate cause for the disorder in pregnancy, but also as a treatment option.

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>>736113789
My phone can't kik very well. I'd happily add you, but I don't think I'll be able to install the app...

>>736113813
Not my art, but my brother has the exact same artstyle.