Is Michelle Carter innocent? Are we really going to make for

>>735794618
you cant shout fire in a crowded theater when there isnt one. there are limits to free speech.

Suicide = illegal
Promoting/helping suicide = promoting/helping a crime

Total
She should get the same penalty as a someone that helped plan a murder but didn't do the physical crime.

I beieve that's called an accessory

>>735794618
Pretty topical, speaking of which, what do you guys think of the titanic?

>>735795033
I watched the nude scene on pornhub, which was okay. The rest I heard was good too

>>735794930
But she was under the involuntary influence of Celexa, she couldn't control her lack of empathy. It's not her fault!

>>735794618
She can be an hero. That would be beautiful. I'd love to fuck her corpse in front of her fam.

>>735794618
Yep. She told him to kill himself, he didn't have to. Fuck him.

>>735795033
first tits I was allowed to see in a movie. I was like 7 or 8 maybe and my dick got hard.

>>735795231
How hard?

>>735795191
If he didn't commit suicide, she wouldn't be on trial

personally i think she did us all a favor by encouraging a mentally ill human to remove himself from the genepool. not saying she deserves a congressional award but i dont think she deserves to be punished with 20 years of jailtime

>>735795351
I dont know, i barely remember being a kid.

>CARTER: You’re fine. It’s gonna be okay. You just gotta do it, babe. You can’t think about it.
>CONRAD: Okay. Okay. I got this.
>CARTER: Yes, you do. I believe in you. Did you delete the messages?
>CONRAD: Yes. But you’re going to keep messaging me.
>CARTER: I will until you turn on the generator.

>>735795406
If only she can start convincing all the blacks to commit suicide

>>735794618
Freedom 9f speech is for political views, not driving a mentally ill person to suicide (both kids involved were psychiatric outpatients)

>>735795578
Should've deleted the messages

>CONRAD: Okay. Ha, ha I’m procrastinating.
>CARTER: Yeah, ha ha, I know. Are you back?
>CONRAD: Yup.
>CARTER: So it’s time?
>CONRAD: Oh, it’s been time.
>CARTER: Are you gonna do it now?
>CONRAD: I just don’t know how to leave them, you know.
>CARTER: Say you’re gonna go the store or something.
>CONRAD: Like, I want them to know that I love them.
>CARTER: They know. That’s one thing they definitely know. You’re over thinking.
>CONRAD: I know I’m over thinking. I’ve been over thinking for a while now.
>CARTER: I know. You just have to do it like you said. Are you gonna do it now?

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>>735795580

>The couple then speak for 40+ minutes on the phone, while he was gassing himself.
>Carter later tells a friend by text that Conrad exited the car when he realised the carbon monoxide poisoining was taking effect.
>Carter persuaded him to get back in.
>He died soon afterwards.
>His body was found in his pick-up truck after his parents reported him missing.
>In the time between Conrad’s death and his body being found, Carter had contacted his family to ask if they knew where he was.

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>>735794618
>implying that there aren't illegal forms of speech.

This is the thing with people, usually on the right, they don't think past the name and think they understand the whole concept.

For example they think:
"free speech" means you can say whatever you like whenever you like.
"Global warming" must be false, because it is cold sometimes.
The "theory of evolution" isn't scientific fact, because it's just a theory.

This is what happens when simple people try to understand concepts that involve even a little bit of thought.

>>735795981
Where can I obtain videos described in your picture. Strictly for research of course.

>>735796352
She looks hotter when she scribbles in her eyebrows darker

This whole thread is gold I love you /b/ros

>>735795406
>award for helping to off mentally ill person
>she's also mentally ill

Rope's strong enough for two bodies -- it's not like we can't squeeze in one more idiot. :D

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>>735796660
she just needs eyebrow-length bangs to balance everything out.

>>735796926
She just needs a sex tape

>>735794618
She guilty nigger.

Her punishment should be death by gang rape. Any man willing to show up gets to rape her anyway he wants until he nuts, men with STDs go last.
Then send her body to mom and dad to bury what's left

>>735796221
Anon that picture lies. Not same girl

Google dirty pig girl bondage. She's British

>>735794930
no, she should get the same time as dr kevorkian did to assist suicide.

after all, that's exactly what she did.

>>735795578
RIGHT THERE, she is admitting guilt, and her mind set is she knows what she is doing isnt' right.

If she didn't think she was doing anything wrong. She wouldn't need to reaffirm the deletion of any texts.

should she be punished for this inhumanity? probably. its not like it was a single incident. she kept pressing him for days or weeks.


should this be the base to change laws or anything? FUCK NO.

any attempts to bring up law changes based on a retarded case like this are alarming.

the wolves always look for reasons to limit your rights, fat inhabitants of burgerland.

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>>735795406

>>735798055
Dr kervavovan is serving time? What the fuck is the story with this?

>>735798174
That's the problem with this case. If she is guilty, the laws change.

>>735795580
This needs to be enforced. Can we make a government program that trains women to do this?

It's not like she had any tangible part in his death. I could see MAYBE charging her as an accessory since she did help him plan it, or maybe gross negligence resulting in death for not at least calling someone else, but MANSLAUGHTER? MURDER??! Nah.

So we can't say kys faggot anymore?

>>735798370
He help youths in Asian

>>735798734
She should be on trial for the planning or the negligence, not the texts she sent encouraging him. Is it illegal to encourage someone to kill someone else? Is it illegal to say 'I hope so and so kills themselves'?

>>735798859
If she's guilty then it might become that way

>>735798410

But why? Common sense dictates that she should at least be charged with hatecrime or something the likes of that and serve a year or two in prison.

Hardest case, she would be charged with something like assisted murder and serve even longer.

Why would the laws change to punish this womens obvious ill intent?

>>735794618
She well get off with a slap on the wrist, maybe community service and a year in jail or some shit

>>735798734
Depends on what you mean by tangible.

It seems highly likely that without her influence, he probably wouldn't have done it. Especially since she told him to get back in when he chickened out.

If she had done nothing at that point, he would still probably be alive today. But she did something, and that something result in his death.

>>735794827
Why not?

>>735798410

charge of involuntary manslaughter, makes perfect sense. why do laws need changing over that?

>>735798859
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's classified as hate speech.

Murica, land of the free

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>>735794827
>>735794930
But she's hot.

Should have done it over phone no txt. Problly just wanted to feel like she took a life.

>>735794618
lol @ "freedom of speech"
you don't seem to even understand what that means
freedom of speech is a constitutional right of freedom from government to make speeches or writings they find too critical or are opposed to
it was a right of free press extended to individuals as well in order to be allowed to speak out against the government

it is NOT freedom to say anything you want
there have been multiple subpoenas served on 4chan lately for the anon around here constantl blasting the president and he even posted severed head type stuff
it was in the news here locally and the guy's house was raided and he's trying to fight it in court with "freedom of speech" and every legal analyst is laughing at him

this is why the multiple, daily anti-Trump threads stopped
it was literally one anon doing all this

>>735795033
Excellent question. I think the Titanic was big. Real big. I heard they even called it the Titanic. It was that fucking big. Seriously.

>>735799216
Wtf is hate speech? That's some fascist buzz word to get people riled up against words. They're just words dude. The kid killed himself. If I tell you to jump into a fire and you do it, I'm not guilty, why should she be?!

>>735799216
Supreme Court ruled hate speech isn't a thing in America 3 separate times. Only cases where you threaten specific people or incite violence or panic are illegal. Like they said can't yell fire can't say " I will kill you nigger". Can say " I hope all niggers die" or "I want all specs to choke on beans". Even in front of a group of blacks or Mexicans. Keep your shitty EU laws away from my country.

>>735794618
>freedom of speech

Freedom of speech means that your governing powers cannot come and shoot your ass for voicing dissent in politics.

Freedom of speech does not mean you get to run your uneducated mouth run freely like a pleb

>>735799565
I love you

>>735799494
>They're just words, dude.
>t. Doesn't actually understand what "freedom of speech" means and covers

>>735799565
>telling someone to kill themselves isn't inciting violence
So, were you dropped on your head as a child, or just born that retarded?

>>735799074
Google it. You will get better answers than from 4chan.

>>735799708
Is suicide violence if it's peaceful?

>>735799708
Man take a chill pill I never said that she wasn't inciting violence. That is for 12 of her peers to decide. Merely stating that your buzz word is a shitty miss use of vocabulary in a issue involving a American citizen. Like I said take your shit EU laws away from my country. Further more ad hominem won't win a argument.
.>>735799635
Thank you bro so many people are miss informed on the issue.

>>735800006
Suicide is self-murder. It's always violent, by definition.


Violence: behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.


Suicide kills the man. Therefore, violent.

>>735800092
>ad hominem won't win an argument

>shitposting on a Vietnamese Underwater Basket Weaving forum counts as debate


Truly, you are a scholar and a a mentlegen.

>>735800092
"Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the Supreme Court, held that the prohibition against hate speech was unconstitutional as it contravened the First Amendment. ... Thus, the Supreme Court embraced the idea that speech in general is permissible unless it will lead to imminent violence."

>>735795981
>meth-addicted rape pig

jesus my sides

>>735800367
not a gentlemen bro probably the biggest asshole narcissistic, person you will ever meet. just well versed in philosophy and machiavellianism, ad study constitutional law and law in general as a hobby. Going to school to be a clinical neurologist Atm.

>>735794618
She was charged with manslaughter, which I think is a stretch. Any legalfags here know is Massachussetts has a law on the books about "depraved indiferrence?" I suspect not. If she is convicted, I worry that every dipshit who says "kys, faggot" could be charged with a crime.

What she did was wrong, but I don't think it should be a crime. Also, my understanding is that she did it to get attention. My heart really goes out to her, because she was young, white, and pretty, probably had a lot of advantages that most people don't have, and yet she felt alone.

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>>735795406

>>735795406
stopped reading after genepool, clearly a retard edgelord waste of air wrote this. i believe her punishment should be everybody and i mean everybody in her proximity to actively agitate for her to kill herself, that her life isn't worth living anymore and all that. any romantic relationship turning into a guy just cumming in her and throwing her away like an old rag until she becomes middle aged and unattractive, no one deciding to give her haven of marriage, leaving her in a demeaning and soulsucking job, having to spend ridiculous amounts of money for the people of the lowest kind to pretend to like her for a coupla hours and so on

>>735800197
you know theres government and state assisted suicides right?

>>735800958
Just like the pedoshits, zooshits, corpse-fucker-shits, christ-degenerates, conservo-liberal-whoopdee-fucks, everyone's got this thing that they want to be legal, and all of it involves fucking with someones elses shit.

Rule of life: don't, or you get the chair.

>>735794618
She should be strung up by her titties for a week to let the crows pick at her

this bitch probably thought up until recently she was getting away

i wonder if it has sunk in yet that her name is poison, people will always know who she is no matter where she goes, good luck getting a job better than target in your life

>>735794618
Decent production values, sounds like a cross between a retarded Kendrick Lamar and the "BloodSugarSexMagic"-era Red Hot Chili Peppers. As an original work, I like that you crammed in details from the case while keeping the mood irreverant. This is incredibly tasteless, and I am a huge fan of tasteless humor. Well done.

>>735796660
I think she's pretty.

>>735794827
You can shout fire in a crowded theater, dumbass. That's dicta from a case from the early 20th Century, which has been subsequently been ignored.

>>735801204
How is it on fantasy island.

>>735795807
Savage.
She definitely needs to be locked up forever

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From his suicide note to her: "Go on YouTube type in Rocky Balboa quote, and let the light guide you." Can we all do this for him?

>>735794930
She's not charged with conspiracy to commit suicide, she's charged with involuntary manslaughter. That means that her boyfriend's agency in his own killing is not part of the elements of what she is charged with. Rather, she is being treated as though her own actions or reckless conduct directly caused his death. And her own actions were only speech.

>>735795231
So you like fatties?

>>735801429
I appreciate it man. You might like this one then too
https://soundcloud.com/capricanno/busy-as-a-priest-1

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>4chan bullies a kid into suicide
>obviously not ok
>girl encourages kid into suicide
>maybe might be ok we better have a think about this

Are women ever going to be actually treated like equals, or forever with the kid gloves?

>>735794618
I live in the same town, and went to school with this girl. That kid was not her boyfriend, she just strung him along because she felt bad for him and he wouldnt leave her alone.

How and why the media have been pushing it as them being a couple i dont understand.

also ama i guess.

>>735801922
but we are anomylous

>>735795981
In the US, direct threats of imminent violence are illegal, and commercial speech gets less protection than other speech, but those are the only criminally "illegal" forms of speech. Defamation and private facts are only actionable civilly.

>anon criticizes others for not knowing whole concept
>anon doesn't know the whole concept
>/b/ in a nutshell

>>735801922
Women will never be treated equal. Thats why we need feminism anon

>>735798859
>She should be on trial for the planning or the negligence
>negligence
>civil, not criminal, wrong
Fuck off to your basement, faggot

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>>735802008
Can you send the Michelle Carter song to all of your friends?
https://soundcloud.com/capricanno/michelle-carter

>>735801688
very bleak cousin. in wods of john lennon, imagine. it would be right, at least give me that

>>735798938
>hatecrime
who's the protected class, faggot? White emo defectives?
>assisted murder
You're just making shit up, now.

>>735799055
>If she had done nothing at that point, he would still probably be alive today. But she did something, and that something result in his death.
>Trump gets elected
>Crazy man shoots a bunch of Republicans
>If Trump hadn't run, Republicans wouldn't have gotten shot
>Charge Trump with attempted murder

Your logic is flawless, anon.

>>735802244
>not knowing criminal negligence is a thing

>>735799216
>hate speech
>hate speech isn't illegal
>anon has no clue what hate speech is, so he applies it to any "bad" speech
>anon occasionally browses msnbc during his refractory period between furious loli masturbation sessions, picks up new term to use on /pol/

>>735799235
Well now, thats a huge stretch you are taking there.

>>735799371
>it was a right of free press extended to individuals as well in order to be allowed to speak out against the government
You're so fucking wrong.
But keep saying "lol" to convince yourself you've got a keener grasp on first amendment jurisprudence than everyone else.

>>735802452
That's a pretty shitty analogy, Anon.

It's 2017; everyone knows you have the right to free speech as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, offend anyone, make anyone feel differently about something, make someone uncomfortable, encourage someone to do anything, or uses any racial slurs or profanity.

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>>735802472
>no such thing as criminal negligence
>only "reckless" conduct or "wanton" conduct
>anon has no clue about general intent, specific intent, or mens rea elements in criminal statutes or common law crimes
>mfw when I've argued that my client's conduct wasn't sufficiently reckless under charging statute

Fuck off back to editing Wikipedia pages, pleb.

>>735799565
>>735799708
>>735800006
>>735800197
How the fuck is texting inciting violence? We can go to jail for playing on our phones now? My four year old cousin has an iPad, are you telling me she can go to jail for playing on a little screen?

>>735794618
Your understanding of the constitution when it comes to freedom of speech is staggeringly ignorant. We do not have a general freedom of speech in this country. The freedom referred to in the constitution is specific to forbidding the GOVERNMENT from limiting your freedom of speech. There is nothing beyond that. You don't have a right to say anything you damn well please, especially when it harms someone else. If there really was a freedom of speech, we would be able to indulge in racist hate speech with impunity. Get your act together, dumb ass.

>>735803282
How often does your 4 year old tell people to kill themselves?

>>735795981

Is the full story anywhere?

>>735802608
>hate speech isn't illegal
What the fuck are you talking about? Your ignorance of the law is amazing. Keep your mouth shut until a subject you actually know about comes up. Jeesh!

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>>735803435
>The freedom referred to in the constitution is specific to forbidding the GOVERNMENT from limiting your freedom of speech.
>State charges woman with a crime for only texting

>we would be able to indulge in racist hate speech with impunity
Been on the internet, lately?

>>735796660
Hey Fuck you buddy. We have a great shit at a great price at the dollar tree.
t. dollar tree manager

>>735803700
Staggeringly dumb question, as you are asking it on the internet and I am reading it there

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This >>735799371
>legal scholar confirmed

>>735794618
>conflates freedom of speech against government with freedom to say anything, including that which results in physical harm to others, including death
>being this retarded
>literally making a public thread on the asshole of the internet and putting your display of how retarded you are out there for all to see

Thread capped for a YLYL thread.
Did this imbecile >>735794618 argue that the girl who coaxed an anon to kill himself and is being criminally prosecuted for it and will undoubtedly go to prison for her role in assisting suicide should go free cuz muh freedums o speech n shit?

Holy fuck. 4chimps is letting any retard make a thread now?

>>735794618
she's cute af. would impregnate
can you guys dump some pics please??

>>735803594
Hate speech isn't illegal.
I'd cite you case law, but I know you don't have the resources to get copies of it, much less the intellect to understand it.
So google it, dumbass. At the same time, google Illinois Nazis. Maybe that'll take the self-righteousness out of you, moron.

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>>735803927
Cite away. I work in a law office and am waiting for the chance to mock you further.

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>>735803478
"You’re ready and prepared. All you have to do is turn the generator on and you [will] be free and happy. No more pushing it off. No more waiting."
If my four year old cousin typed this, he'll end up behind bars. Let's not criminalize texting.

>>735803861
>>legal scholar confirmed
Where? Cooley? Charlotte Infinilaw?

>>735804054
Nobody is trying to criminalize texting. Why do you think they are? It's what she said, - not how it was delivered - that is in question here

Didn't that one motherfucker get in trouble for encouraging that stupid cunt to drink bleach?

Wow I just read about this. What a fucking evil bitch she is.

>>735804227
Yup

>>735803861
I sort of agree with you. It's pretty retarded to make a thread calling this freedom of speech as that has nothing to do with it. She wasn't speaking out against the government. She's being tried for manslaughter. Not even her legal counsel thinks freedom of speech is anything but laughable defense--so much so that they didn't even raise it. The whole defense is that it's the kids fault because he "said" he wanted to kill himself to her. This 20 year old girl is a P.O.S. for pressuring a 17 year old boy to commit suicide. He was obviously obsessed with her and under her command. She has not denied she ordered him to "get back in" his truck when he became frightened he was going to kill himself with carbon monoxide.

Suggesting this is "freedom of speech" is fucking retarded and has nothing to do with anything here.
Arguing it is freedom of speech here is the same thing as arguing a nigger who mugs an old lady and takes her purse was just exercising his freedom of speech to demand her purse.

OP is a fucking stupid tard.

>>735795406
You're on /b/, you already are an indictment of the genepool you think should be removed.

>>735804227
Yup

>>735804036
>I work in a law office
Uh oh, I got a law clerk or legal secretary being a badass here.
I literally wrote my law review note on this topic.
I also argued a free speech case in front of the DC Circuit.
But you have access to westlaw or Lexis Nexis, so you're going to show me, right?
Start with R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992) 505 US 377, and then work your way to Snyder v. Phelps (2011) 562 U.S. 443.
I can start quoting the relevant passages for you, if you'd like, "law office worker."

>>735804054
>If my four year old cousin strapped on a bomb and pressed a button, he'll end up behind bars. Let's not criminalize jihading. It's only a button after all.

>>735803927
The only reason it is not illegal is because liberals have used it in reverse to silence critics and push social policies, otherwise, they would have gotten a law passed making hate speech and maybe even thinking hateful thoughts illegal too. Anything that will push the libtard social agenda.

>>735804096
Pretty obvious a lawyer wrote that. If you can't figure that out by a quick read, maybe consider that you are too dumb to be here, especially if that is your immature response.

>>735795073
>nope
the rest was blah blah blah and the rekt scene was funny because of the sound/cg was the best they had at the time

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>>735804757
forgot photo

>>735794618
DA is asking for charges that could not apply.

If they were charging her as an accessory I'd agree, but calling it manslaughter is essentially saying she killed him.

I don't agree with that.

Just like the Zimmerman case, they are over reaching.

>>735804732
Kekking so hard. If you're impressed by that and think that's a sound legal analysis, I imagine you'd hire a lawyer out of a strip mall.

If you knew who I was . . .

>>735804036
oh fuck you just got annihilated.

>>735804565
Hey, kid. No "real" practicing lawyer would ever cite to his law school history. You are fucking retarded. First you claim "freedom of speech, hurr durr", then get decimated all over your own thread, then revert to childish responses.

Good luck with your law career. No give me my fucking latte and maybe I'll throw a quarter in your plastic beg cup, you small-minded faggot!

I hate a bossy cunt.

>>735794618

wow that is one cold hearted bitch. It's kinda hot.

>>735794618
>What about freedom of speech?
Does that cover encouraging a suicidal person who loves you to kill himself for months on end while telling him to delete your conversations afterwards so you don't get caught?

Why was Manson imprisoned? He never killed anyone.

>>735804732
You're so confused. It's actually liberals like Larry Flynt and the ACLU that have kept freedom of speech alive, and the ACLU to this day defends the use of hate speech.

Defending freedom of speech of the people you most disagree with is what freedom of speech is about is about. This is a classically liberal concept. Right Wing authoritarian governments crush freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press.

>>735797960
Why do you have to ruin my boner?

>>735804565
>Snyder v. Phelps (2011) 562 U.S. 443.
So you throw out a case where a city ordinance was found to be invalid and then you suggest a case around RELIGIOUS expression. OK you need to pay attention to what I wrote in the first place. I referred to RACIST hate speech and the first amendment, not some pokey city regulation. Get back to your law review notes and try again.

>>735804945
Not done yet!

Hitler did nothing wrong. Free speech.

>inb4 godwin's law

>>735804379
>Being punished for free speech has nothing to do with free speech

More people should kill themselves

>>735805222
>Why was Manson imprisoned? He never killed anyone.
Participated in the planning, which is an overt act in furtherance of the crime of murder.

There is no conspiracy or accessory liability for suicide. Which is why she's charged with manslaughter.

>>735804800
What is this from. I do not understand the reference

>>735805502
>There is no conspiracy or accessory liability for suicide.

No accessory liability? What the fuck is wrong with your country?

>>735799235
Fuck no. The bitch is ugly

>>735795981
Liberal Logic: Not liking gay people is a hate crime. Not liking people who kill gay people is a hate crime. Judging people based on nothing but the color of their skin is a hate crime. Everyone who doesn't have white skin deserves special treatment.

>>735799285
Isn't swallowing millions of cells enough?

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>>735794618
She's innocent, but our society is so boner-raging for media witch hunts that 9 out of 10 people hate her
Plus this pic implies that she gave the guy blowjobs

>>735794618
What's wrong with her head? She looks like kwebbelkop.

in one of her text messages she mentions how if they found her messages his family would hate her and she would probably go to jail

and another messages when he gets out of the truck and she urges him to get back in and finish it

These two messages are the messages that made what she did a crime

the act of pushing him to finish it when he has had second thoughts

and when she confesses her own guilt as well as acknowledging she knows what she is doing is wrong

lock her up for 5 to 10 years in low security have her undergo physiological evaluation to find out if she is a sociopath or psychopath or at least has tendencies like narcissism and make this public record

have her restrictions upon release if she is given early release like no access to computers and mobile devices

>>735805754
ALL THE PRESIDENTS WERE WHITE WE NEED TO KILL ALL WHITES TO LEVEL OUT THE PLAYING FIELD

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Any michelle pics welcome
Here she is at prom

>>735805949
her life is over regardless good luck for her ever getting a job again or making friends or finding someone who will trully love her

>>735794618
No, he killed himself because he wanted to. She just gave him an excuse to do it.

>>735806001
Damn she's ugly.

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>>735804918
lol
this >>735804983

>>735805284
you clearly don't understand what freedom of speech is
i didn't thought it was what you are selling today, but i just looked it up and it is very clear that freedom of speech was created as a right coming out of freedom of the press to criticize government. Nothing more. It is now freedom of the press and an individual to criticize THE GOVERNMENT.

It is not the right to say anything.
You are fucking stupid. If you actually work in a law office, tell me which one, because I want to make sure I never pay the band of imbeciles who hired you and are clueless as to how fucking stupid you are.

Mmmmk?

Buh-bye now.

>>735805222
>Why was Manson imprisoned? He never killed anyone.

Out of control political correctness. Happened under the same PC nonsense that blamed the student protestors at Kent state for their own murders by the national guard, since they were "saying bad things". They even elected the douchebag who oversaw, and chuckled about, the murder of protestors by the military, as President of the USA a decade later (Ronald Reagen)

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>>735805949
He badgered her for 18 months about how all he wanted to do was kill himself, and she repeatedly told him not to and to seek help
He wore her down
Finally she just said, yes, this is what you really want, I'll help you
She's a good person

>>735806005
Im sure some idiot will fall for her just for sex.

>>735805807
She's not innocent, she just haven't committed a crime. She's extremely guilty of being a royal piece of narcissistic shit.

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>>735806073
I think she'a qt3.14

>>735806108
>blamed the student protestors at Kent state for their own murders by the national guard
Yeah, I read about the case a few months back and was amazed nobody got shit for it. Killing non-violent teenagers was just fucking okelidokely.

>>735805374
>So you throw out a case where a city ordinance was found to be invalid
Thst city ordinance was used to attempt to prevent hate speech, in violation of the First Amendment:
"The First Amendment does not permit St. Paul to impose special prohibitions on those speakers who express views on disfavored subjects. . . One must wholeheartedly agree with the Minnesota Supreme Court that '[i]t is the responsibility, even the obligation, of diverse communities to confront such notions in whatever form they appear, ibid., but the manner of that confrontation cannot consist of selective limitations upon speech."

>then you suggest a case around RELIGIOUS expression.
There is no exception or greater protection for religious speech. Your drawing a distinction that doesn't exist in the First Amendment
"The record makes clear that the applicable legal term—"emotional distress"—fails to capture fully the anguish Westboro's choice added to Mr. Snyder's already incalculable grief. But Westboro conducted its picketing peacefully on matters of public concern at a public place adjacent to a public street. Such space occupies a 'special position in terms of First Amendment protection.' "

C'mon, man. Try reading more than the case notes before you comment on a case.

>>735806125
When I first looked at this picture, I saw the brown legs of the person Michelle Carter was hugging, and it made me want to commit genocide against her, but then I realized it was just nylons and she's not actually a negroid.

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>>735794618
>freedom of speech
>claims he works in a law firm
>sucks actual lawyers cocks for a living and staples their briefs ever-so-butt-lovingly
>being this dumb
>being this fucking dumb
>being this fucking dumb on the internet
>being this fucking dumb on the asshole of the internet
>being this fucking dumb on the asshole of the internet's most retarded board

Fucking thread capped as "muh speech freedoms lawyer wannabe" is now epic YLYL thread with his epic anal destruction posted for all to witness!

>>735806236
Of course you do.

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>>735806197
I don't see it that way
I feel like her boyfriend was a controlling, hysterical self-centered twat
He badgered her for a year and a half of emotional blackmail about how he was gonna kille himself
She finally says, 'fine, fucking do it,' and it's her fault?
Nah.

>>735806236
This pic is so sexy, I want to get that pattern on her sleeve tattood around my bicep

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>>735806378
there are always trap threads for you

>>735806476
Ohh. My mistake I thought she was a trap.which is why it made sense why you thought she was cute.

>>735798370
kevorkian got 2 year sentence for helping a woman die, i think it was late 80's or early 90's.

>>735806476
>>735806396
>>735806236
>>735806125
>>735806001
Does anybody know her height? I'm only asking because I don't fuck short bitches in fear of passing weak <6ft genes onto my son. I've been blessed with height and my sons deserve the same privilege

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>>735806236
Oh hai, Cara!

>>735806396
I see you haven't read their conversations, why are you even commenting you mongoloid?

>>735806396
There a no excuse. When someone threatens suicide they should always call the police. Sure he might have annoyed her. But is that really grounds for enabling his suicide?

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>>735806689
It's hard to tell from pics
maybe it's on her permit?

>>735800958
>a stretch
weird, internet fuckwit, but every legal analyst says she'll get convicted
you cannot coerce someone into performing a legal act
worse yet, she did it for entirely selfish reasons--she literally told a number of people she did it only because she wanted to be known as the "grieving girlfriend" because it would pump up her social status

this type of scum needs to be put to the death sentence herself
oh yeah, taxachusetts is full of weak lil libfags so yeah, nah

in conservative states, we don't grow weak lil boys like this who let ugly gf tell them to kill self
we slap a bitch and make her make fresh sammy then suck it dry with a thank you sir

>being this libfag
>dat weakness it breeds in mind and body

maybe if he was a transwhateverthefuck, they'd hang her special

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>>735806762
I have though
I just don't take my lead from the media like you do
BTW, she has perky breasts

>>735805599
titanic where the guy hits the boat prop

>>735806928
Lead from the media? What does their conversations have to do with media?

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Those texts in the background
>Top kek

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>>735806847
you're the kind of hysterical twat who needs a gf like michelle

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>>735807002
She secretly quoted Glee in many of her texts for dramatic effect

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>>735807002
Anyone who reads her texts from throughout the summer she she's telling him again and again not to harm himself, to seek help
She only tells him to go through with it after 18 months of being beat down with his solipsistic narcissism.
The media ignores the big picture to whip up the witch hunt mentality that sells. Anyone who exhibits it strikes me as a mental midget.

>>735806831
HOW DID YOU GET THIS

>>735807116
false

>>735806831
Looks like someone won't be attending their 21st birthday party

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>>735807207
I am an internet wizard

>>735798859
but this wasnt' " dude go kill yourself"

thsi was repeatedly, constantly bullying this guy to kill himself.

With your logic. Charles manson is absolutely innocent
You realise, that ol charlie never lifted a finger to killl anyone.

Yet because he "convinced" others to kill for him. Hes' been rotting in jail for what...since the 60's. And he's never going to get out.

>>735807268
You're her brother aren't ya.

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>>735807265
I expect she'll be found not guilty or at least a mistrial and will be home well before her bday

>>735798951
Pussypass

>>735806831
lol

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>>735807337
Ha, no
But have you seen her sister? Super hot
I'm just someone who wants to comfort her, tenderly, with my benis
Also, I kinda despise her cringy twat of a dead boyfriend and think the media witch hunt is b.s.

>>735807341
I hope so. Then she can drive drunk and get arrested

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>>735806831
>>735807207
Looks like she grew up in a comfortable home

>>735807424
What does her sister look like? Anyone that doesn't look like Michelle is already super hot .

>>735807194
>Anyone who reads her texts from throughout the summer she she's telling him again and again not to harm himself, to seek help
Oh shit. Source plox.

>>735794618
I've watched the whole trial. The defense has made it pretty clear they are not really pursuing the free speech defense because everyone knows it is not free speech (except the media apparently, who thinks everything is free speech). The Defense attorneys are hanging their entire defense on lack of proximate cause in basically arguing that he was a troubled kid who probably would have killed himself anyway.

She waived a jury trial. Had to because her act was pretty hateful and wrong and wouldn't play well to a jury. The tradeoff in doing so was that her attorneys realized they would more or less have to abandon any "free speech" defense because no Judge would fall for that archair lawyer bullshit. It doesn't hold water legally. As others have said, free speech is derived from freedom of the press and pertains to the press (and subsequently extended to individuals) to speak out against the government. Sure, it has been expanded slightly, but the legal trend has lately been to narrow it down and restrict it to its original purpose in speaking out against the government.

Not even the ACLU thinks Ms. Carter's defense has anything to do with freedom of speech and no organization has done more or litigated more than the ACLU on this issue, having most of their attorneys dedicated to that area of law almost exclusively.

Not sure what op's creditentials are legally, but tbh, he sounds like a dumb kid who knows just enough to be a menace to himself in thinking he knows anything. Any retard can google cases.

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>>735794618
here we go again

>>735807268
>>735806831
I have a slight obsession with her. Suicides are sort of my fetish, abortions and dog fights included. She's the reason I was inspired to make a song about her, in hopes of one day meeting her? If you wouldn't mind, please share more, so I can obsess over her from a distance. You're doing me a service. Thank you anon

>>735795580
pppffftttttt hahahaha
/thread

>>735807568
/cringe

>>735806831
jesus, even the drivers license looks better then her

>>735807638
How do I delete posts

>>735807502
lol
that is bullshit
she told him to kill himself repeatedly
she coerced him
there is not one single text, nor even a claim from her, that she told him not to do it
some idiot just made that up here
if there was, they would have presented it at trial or in their pleadings
they didn't and she has admitted she told him to kill himself many times, and did so to be the "grieving girlfriend" for "social status"

>>735801204
Lol a bit cruel and unusual isn't it?

Also as a woman society wouldn't let her life be miserable, she could common law divorce a guy or get knocked up and reap plenty in a support case. Chances are she will get 5 years and community service even though a man in that exact scenerio is looking at 25 to life

>>735807693
you have to report it

>>735807268
Clean your fucking fingernails you mong

>>735795125
i take Celexa thats such a load of shit the lack of empathy only lasts for like 20 min at a time

>>735807693
You reply to your post with the following

::Delete:post::

>>735807506
>As others have said, free speech is derived from freedom of the press and pertains to the press (and subsequently extended to individuals) to speak out against the government. Sure, it has been expanded slightly, but the legal trend has lately been to narrow it down and restrict it to its original purpose in speaking out against the government.

Please kill yourself. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are separately asserted in the 1st amendment and ARE MEANT to allow the human race the intellectual freedom to speak about anything. A far more important thing than some failed special snowflakes.

>>735807568
::deletepost:;

>>735807762
That's what I thought, so waiting for this anon to pull up some sources from anywhere but his ass this time.

>>735803282
Well if it leads to someone dying yeah probably

>>735808049
My mother just killed herself over this post. You better flee the country, they are tracking your IP.

>>735799173
because it wasn't involuntary. she urged him to kill himself

>>735807638

>>735805002
>>735807919

>>735805386
>>735808241

>>735806125
What the hell are you talking about she wanted him to kill himself so she could play the grieving gf card for sympathy and be more popular she is insane and an awful person

>>735808145
That's 2 for Michelle.

>>735808554
So buzzfeed says
But then how to explain all her texts asking him not to harm himself?

No she is not fucking innocent! Let me tell you fags a story.

When I met my girlfriend she was suicidal. She had been in an abusive relationship for over a year, her family didn't care about her, and she was ready to die. She just didn't care.

Later on, she broke up with him and I took care of her, and over a matter of a few years she was on the up. She recovered. She was 12 when I met her.

This awful person has just convinced someone who had a good chance at life that they do not. Almost every person deserves a chance at life, certainly someone who wasn't incapacitated, such as that dude.

There should be freedom of speech, but that cannot be accepted. In the same was as you are allowed to push someone over, but you can't push them in front of a train because you take away their chance to live.
She took away his life, she should spend hers in prison.

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>>735794618
>freedom of speech in manslaughter trial of assisted suicide coercion

Umm, you are confirmed for being retarded.

Freedom of speech is all about freedom to speak against the government:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

You see in there where the First Amendment is all about what you can do against the governement? You see that, dipshit? You see where it is says "Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech?" Do you even understand that "freedom of speech" doesn't even actually exist, but is a lay term posited by morons and legal wannabes? The Constitution does not say everyone has freedom of speech or that you can say whatever you want. It says Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

Congress not making a law in D.C. in which said proposed law prohibits the press or someone from speaking out against government in criticism HAS NOTHING TO DO with a MANSLAUGHTER charge against some low level whore in state court in Massachusetts. "Freedom of speech" is not even a legally cognizable defense. It restricts Congress. It restricts them in what laws they can make. This is state court (not federal), there are no laws being made here, and "freedom of speech" is something only an idiot echoes because they heard it in the media, but it has nothing to do with the law (it is not even a legal term), has nothing to do with state law, has nothing to do with manslaughter, or as an affirmative defense.

OP WAS COMPLETELY DESTROYED IN THIS THREAD REPEATEDLY!!!
>claims he works in a law firm

>>735799235
She looks like a fucking goblin.

>>735800800
christ, i bet you love the sound of your own voice don't you?

in the spirit of the thread, kill yourself.

>>735808627
>she was 12 when I met her

Sounds like someone took advantage of a situation

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>>735808627
Bullshit. She was a 17 year old mentally ill girl child beaten down by a suicidal creep's endless threats to kill himself. Finally she said 'fine, do it.'
She's the victim.

>>735808707
yeah, it's not every day a pedophile lectures people about morality

>>735808726
/thread

>>735801848
Are you fucking gay?

>>735808726
>>735808779
oh fuck off.

>>735794618

I want to bang her so bad.

Hot, evil crazy bitch.

I say yes and that she should get death penalty

>>735808779
/post

>>735808835
>evil crazy bitch
what?

>>735808908
You fucking heard him.

>>735808726
But she didn't just say "fine, do it," did she? She urged him to do it even when he wasn't going to! She didn't give up hope for him, she took away his hope for himself. I could help someone who was ready to die, so could she. He had every chance to live, but she actively sought to take that away. That isn't fair at all and shouldn't be accepted in a modern society!

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I just want to hold her and tell her it'll be okay

>>735808837
Death penalty for sending text messages? Are you insane?

>>735809060
bitch yes, but evil and crazy? meh

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>>735794618
Me, when all my friends ordered an instwatch

>>735808654
People this retarded and ignorant shouldn't exist, let alone breed.

>>735809096
>>735808908
>>735808835
I want to jerk off to her pushing men to suicide

>>735809103
>for sending text messages?

Quit trying to dilute the situation

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>>735809071
Basically a case of battered wife syndrome
He emotionally blackmailed her into joining his death wish, after she spent months begging him not to harm himself.
She's the real victim.
Plus, she likes memes.

i'm not him but this >>735807928

>>735807506
i don't think you know how to reading comprehension very well
you need to twist what he is saying to make it something it is not in order to pretend you are right
he, nor anyone else, ever said (freedom of) "speech" is (slightly) different from (freedom of) press
but you miss his point: freedom of speech COMES FROM freedom of the press
that is why they are together in the 1st amendment
Congress does not make laws saying some individual cannot say whatever about whatever, but rather, potentially makes laws that might restrict the press (as happens in Russia and pretty much everywhere dictators control)

and as many have said, that you keep calling it "freedom of speech" just shows you have no idea what you are talking about
it is Congress not making laws that abridge free speech
it is NOT, I have a right to freedom of speech
the Constitution merely says Congress can't do it
the Constitution does NOT say you CAN do it

you've turned the misappropriated lay phrase evindencing stupidity (freedom of speech) on its head from being a restriction on Congress to a right of an individual
it never was
this shows how fucking dumb you are

get it now? cuz everybody has been laughing at you op, from the beginning of this thread you made claiming that was a "defense" and that you are a legal aide at Dewey, Cheatam & Howe who sharpens their pencil dicks

jesus, you are fucking stupid kid

>>735809199
Dilute the situation? That anon put it like it is, retard.

>>735809193
ok, then do it.

i want to jerk off to guys getting their cock and balls tortured and milked.

>>735794618
What she did is nt freedom of speech it was coercion.
She orchestrated his suidide and manipulated him into doing it.
Under the logic thatvwhat she did is ok, we ought to let cartel and gang leaders go because they weren't physically present during the crime.

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>>735798370

This is not the fucking /b/ I know. The fuck is wrong with you guys. Now its all, "hurr durr, we neeeeed to follloowww lawssss durr."

I fucking hope you're all summer fags, it's getting really hard to tell

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>>735794618
This fucking whore should be publicly stoned to death

>>735809331
It's not the same, I need the emotional aspect. I need her to convince him that he's doing the right thing.

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>>735809337
This is the kind of faggotry that is killing Western civilization
>he texted her for 18 months that he wanted to kill himself
>she tried to talk him out of it dozens of times
>he said again and again killing himself was the only option
>finally she says, okay, do it
>he comes up with the plan
>he buys the generator
>he starts it, and he breates in the CO
>he dies
>but she sent a few texts, so he's not responsible, she is.
kys
michelle would want it that way

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>>735798799

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>>735809514
She is the new queen of /b/

>>735794618
Fact: there were literally THOUSANDS of text messages from Michelle Carter to her minor boyfriend and many of them were encouraging him to kill himself, do it now, and even a bunch telling him how to do it when he had no idea how to do it.

Sgt. Michael Bates reviewed thousands of text messages between Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy III, who rarely saw each other in person even though they lived just 35 miles apart and communicated through texts and phone calls. Bates testified, "Carter claimed that the reason she wanted him to die was so that she could "up her social status" and be considered the "grieving girlfriend".

In one message, Carter wrote: “Hang yourself, jump off a building, stab yourself idk there’s a lot of ways.”

When Roy texted Carter that “I keep regretting the past it’s getting me upset,” her response was: “Take your life?”

Sandler also testified that it would take about 20 minutes for someone to succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning, backing the prosecution’s assertion that Carter had plenty of time to persuade Roy to get out of the truck or to alert his family and police.

“I could have stopped him but I told him to get back in the car,” Carter texted to her school friend Samantha Boardman.

“I was talking on the phone with him when he killed himself … I heard him die,” Carter texted to Olivia Mosolgo days after Roy’s death, Mosolgo testified.

>>735809514

Its really hard to OD on weed mah dude.

>>735809648
Do I smell a new Time Magazine poll winrar?

>>735806928
Yeah you take your "lead" based upon who has perky breasts. What a great free thinker you are.

>>735809648
Post more of these man I know you got some good stuff. What is she interested in? What are her hobbies?

>>735809227

CARTER: "You’re gonna have to prove me wrong because I just don’t think you really want this. You just keeps pushing it off to another night and say you’ll do it but you never do."

CARTER: "SEE THAT’S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you’re saying eventually..."

CARTER: "But I bet you’re gonna be like 'Oh, it didn’t work' ... I bet you’re gonna say an excuse like that"

CARTER: "Do you have the generator?"

ROY: "not yet lol"

CARTER: "WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT"

That's not an abused person. That's a homicidal person who WANTED the boy to die! If she felt degraded by trying and failing to help him, it is not as if she was alone. There is so many help centres offering therapy, counselling, and many other things which could have helped him. She also could have spoken to his family or other friends. That is what I would have done and that's what she would have done if she cared about his life. She wanted him dead

>>735794618
If they find her guilty, the world as we know it will change forever.

>>735809763
I guess siding with Chad is your m.o.

>>735794618
That's not what freedom of speech is you idiot. Freedom of speech means the government can't tell an author what they can and can't write, or anyone can go out and protest shit. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can talk someone into killing themselves and it doesn't mean a company can't fire someone because SJWs complained they said nigger or something.

>>735801204
Hell ye boi

>>735809807
Nah, that's a person who was bullied into joining his plan

>>735809558
>I need the emotional aspect
same here. i need the women to squash guys with a smile on their face while spouting vulgarity in a soft monotone voice. otherwise it does nothing for me.

She's a woman. So whatever penalty a man would get she will get half.

You won't hear feminists complain though

>>735794618

and of course anti depressants were involved.

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>>735809770
she's a huge red sox fan

>>735809580
Have you read the texts? I don't care what her sentence is, but she defiantly encouraged him a lot.

You all know that if she is found guilty we can't say KYS faggot anymore right?

>>735810061
MOAR

>>735809580
what the fuck are you even talking about you delusional fantasy boy?

>she tried to talk him out of it dozens of times
Fucking what? Nope as fuck. In fact she has already admitted she "never tried" to talk him out of it and has admitted that she "only encouraged him to do it"

>he comes up with the plan
No again. She did. He literally texted her saying he didn't know how to kill himself. There are many texts from her detailing how to do it, including by CO asphyxiation.

>he buys generator
Generator? Buys? What's your agenda fagboi. He died in his pickup truck in the store parking lot in Fairhaven.

>but she sent a few texts
You mean 3,623 texts? That's a few? And by the way, 811 of those texts were her encouraging him to kill himself.

You've got an agenda here, once again, with your constant spreading of disinformation and lies, libfag.

You are probably op pretending he is law school boy and "freedom of speech" which doesn't even exist btw. How fucking dumb are you?

>>735810061
Nice dude! I love it!!! I can start liking the redsocks!

>>735810116
THIS IS WHY THIS CASE IS SO IMPORTANT PEOPLE!!!!!

Fake news

>>735809807
>That's a homicidal person who WANTED the boy to die!

I agree completely.

She's guilty as fuck of manslaughter with all that coercion and pressuring. Idiot op claiming "freedom of speech". LMFAO

>>735795981

Friendly reminder to stick to weed, booze, and once a year psychedelics.

>>735809952
He didn't force her at all. He had his own problems and she could have helped him. He told her about his issues and she exploited him, as >>735806847 pointed out, to up her own social status

>>735799235
With the picture made me laugh. Cheers

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So when do we see them bring charges against our leaders for knowingly lying and deceiving in order to unjustly get people to kill and be killed themselves?

Oh, that's right, it will never happen

>>735809676
Genuine question - how would being a grieving girlfriend up her social status?

>>735810451
Kys you 4 eyed faget

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>>735810163
she volunteered to help niglets

>>735810116
Not really. Slipper slope arguments are pretty weak in this instance. I don't see how it's hard to distinguish the facts of this case from someone flippantly telling someone to go kill themselves.

>>735810559
She's so weird looking lol. Her friend on the right is hot. But why is this Michelle chick so weird looking?

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>libfag op with his agenda at political free speech suddenly when trump is in and he posts anti-trump hate daily
>claims works in law firm today
>yesterday was fighter pilot
>claims "few texts", she tried to convince him not to, not her fault, freedom of speech is right, hurr-durr cuz me law

Even bothering to respond to a libfag is a waste of time. They're mentally ill, you see. Don't think so? Then how do you justify op going so far as to mistate facts, the issues (free speech?), and go way out of his way to make a thread to defend this woman? If this young man was your friend, brother, or son, maybe you'd start to understand just how evil libtards are in their soulless agenda to destroy America and the social values that made it what it is.

>>735810567
When people tell you to kill yourself, don't assume they are being flippant. They are probably giving you good advice. This isn't a slippery slope.

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>>735810831

>>735809580
>she tried to talk him out of it dozens of times

And still, you can't prove it. I can prove that she did tell him to kill himself for months.

>>735804404
>this

Nobody here deserves to procreate.

>>735810200
>what's you're agenda
Lmfao good shit man, liberals are trying to make background checks for buying generators now

>>735810200
>>she tried to talk him out of it dozens of times
>Fucking what? Nope as fuck.
Carter: "But the mental hospital would help you. I know you don't think it would but I'm telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life"
Carter: "Part of me wants you to try something and fail just so you can go get help"
Roy: "It doesn't help. Trust me"
Carter: "How do you want to harm yourself"
Roy: "Something idkk yet"
Carter: "Please don't"
Roy: "I hate myself I'll always hate myself, I'm never gonna view myself as good I'm so far behind"
Carter: "What is harming yourself gonna do!? Nothing! It will make it worse!"
Roy: "Make the pain go away like you said"
Carter: "It will make the pain go away temporarily, but when you're done, you'll just regret it and feel even worse!"

Roy: " If you were in my position. honestly what would you do"
Carter: "I would get help. That's just me tho. When I have a serious problem like that my first instinct is to get help because I know I can't do it on my own"

Carter: "Well there's more ways to make CO. Google ways to make it. . . "
Roy: "Omg"
Carter: "What"
Roy: "portable generator that's it"

You are a fucking sheep.

>>735810559
I'm no longer interested in her

>>735811076
Bby plz

>>735810899
o noes, she went to prom! nearly a year after the twat killed himself

>>735810972
sorry faggot
>>735811033

>>735810831
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMrCoto/videos?&ab_channel=MichaelDiBari

>>735811209
U wan sex?

>>735811164
Alright, more. This is photobucket I assume?

>>735794930
>>735794827
>>735797824
>>735798055
>>735798174
>>735799216

kill yourself

>>735809103
>>735809303
>purposefully run a man over with my car because he dared me too
What the fuck, it's illegal to drive now?!

If she in her heart didn't know what she was doing was so wrong when she did it over and over again over all that time, then why did she tell friends she had to delete all his texts because the police would arrest her for murder? She also told them she did it to be the grieving girlfriend and posted messages pretending to miss him. "I will never understand why this had to happen" on her fb after telling him literally the day she coerced him to kill himself, “You can’t think about it,’ she writes. “You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don’t get why you aren’t.”Then on the night of his death, Roy texted Carter explaining that he was scared and was “freaking out again” and worried about his family.

Carter wrote back: “I thought you wanted to do this. This time is right and you’re ready. You just need to do it. You can’t keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe. You can’t keep doing this every day.”

When Roy said he would finally “do it” Carter responded by saying “You promise?”

“I promise, babe. I have to now,” Roy replied.
Manipulative, lying bitch killed that boy!

>>735811255
Hi :-)

>>735811279
I'm literally laughing the fuck out loud

>>735811033
I'm asking for an actual source, not the dribble you just typed out you fucking mongoloid.

>omg, you're a faggot

>>735809103
Honestly, I think the legal system is too lenient. Death penalty for everything other than not wearing a seat belt while driving seems reasonable.

I blame the parents for not keeping a close eye. And the nsa. Those niggas are just sitting back watching her instead of stopping her

>>735811388
do you not know how to google, babyretard?
Those are her texts, shitlord.

>>735811399
I agree. None of this waiting in prison for 30 years to get killed shit either, public executions are the way to go.