Grenfell tower has now been burning for over 7 hours. Still

>fire started on second floor
>fuckhuge plane flying straight through the superstructure
retard

>>735776433
>Fire starts at most structurally important part of a tower, still doesn't collapse.

>fire starts at top of tower which relatively bears little weight, collapses.

Are you just pretending to be ignorant?

any gore/ppl stuck in teh building pics yet?

>>735776433
The plane crashing into the buildings was never blamed for bringing them down, because it would have done that almost instantly after crashing into it if it had caused critical damage, it was always the fire that was said to be the cause, and the fire on one of the towers only burned for 90 minutes.

>>735776354
>itt professional architects

Why has it not fallen down in a conrolled demolition yet?

Chance of collapse of the tower at this stage?

>>735777204
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>>735776433
Might want to Google Building 7, fuckboy. No plane hit it but it collapsed due to "fire damage". Yeah lol look at that perfect collapse, nothing fishy at all.

>>735776354
Grenfell is 70s concrete construction.
The WTC towers were steel skyscrapers.
Its thats simple.

>>735777420
Watch the roof collapse before the walls, it is well documented and modelled how this tower fell and theres nothing unreasonable about a collapse due to fire damage

>>735777420
It's Jet fuel you cuck it splashed over from the other tower and hit building 7. It diden't stand a chance

>Nov 16 2016

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/

>>735778151
Uh oh

>>735777656
>nothing unquestionable about a collapse due to fire damage.

0 High riser buildings through history have ever fall from fire damages (Sorry for bad english)

it's amazing how many people can't do 5min of research on structure stability and why the way the wtc was built led to its collapse.

Steel reinforced concrete > pure steel structure

>>735777656
>fire wreaking havoc on building at different times
>perfect free fall /demolition type collapse
Pick one

>>735778492
Go watch a video explaining this for retards like you, it really isnt hard

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>>735776354

steel burns at lower temp then conreat fucking idiot

>>735776354

All we need now is Ring A Ring O' Roses and we got a bunch of London nursery rhymes to sing, pfffff

>>735779070
>pfffff
>laughing at your own joke
>which wasn't even funny

>>735776354
Go in there about 5 floors from the top and hit the beams with enough force to bend them. You will then see them collapse like an accordion.

>>735776710
That antenna on the top of the second tower was pretty fucking heavy, you know.

>>735776354

Yippee ki-yay, motherfucker!

>>735779154

Nah, the pffff was supposed to be a fart, my nigger

>>735778968
>steel
>burns
hmmm

i bet some muslim started the fire

>>735776354
>half the size
>not nearly as hot
>doesn't have thousands of obese burgers weighing it down
cmon now the comparison is shite

>>735776354
Never understood how on earth it's possible for the whole apartment block to catch fire. It's made of fricking BRICKS. Let's say your flat starts burning - how the next flat to yours can catch fire? Considering that nobody has wood doors anymore. That's pretty suspicious situation

>>735779780
Don't give them any ideas ffs Anon.

>>735779520
My wife is in that plane!

>>735779982
>half

It's not even 1/12 the size you stupid fuck

>>735779737
melts, w/e

>>735779509
No it wasn't. It was one of the lightest and strongest communications towers there are.
>Communications engineer

>>735780180
le picard faceparm

>>735776354
But isn't the point that that building was infinitely heavier and the burned out/weakened floor couldn't hold up the rest anymore.

>>735776354
>Implying putting all the fucking weight of a huge skyscraper into a single column and forget about how wind exists and have to add additional supports to the building.

WTC was designed by a fucking moron. Someone throwing a big enough rock at it could have made it collapse.

It wasn't an inside job, it was shitty design that caused them to collapse so easily.

How come nobody mentioned TW 7 ???

>>735777420
>Might want to Google Building 7
Like it's some secret. Who hasn't heard about that by now.

>BBC News
>Many Muslims in the North Kensington area were up late due to the holy month of Ramadan, and mosques have swung into action.
>mosques
>swung
>into action

all better now

>>735777662
>cuck
Only overuse that shit on pol

>>735780036
Seems odd to me as well. More shit in there to burn than you would think apparently.

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Discuss

>>735776710
>fire starts with no real force of impact on the building or it's supports
>a fucking plane crashes into a tower and rips out a huge chunk of it

Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>735780492
Because it was just a structural fire that was ignored till the last minute and finally decided just to implode it instead of letting it catch other buildings on fire or an uncontrolled collapse that could make things worse.

>>735776354
Why would people emphasize the burning not as much as the damage caused by the collision? The building wouldn't stand long because the steel beams at the top couldn't handle the structural pressure

>>735780702
>it's supports
>it is supports

Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>735780697
Metal doesn't need to melt to become weakened.
And it was the fact that only the center column was holding the entire building up.

Jews did 14/5

>first

>>735776354
Has it been hit by a 170 ton plane yet?

All you retards need to learn that this building is mainly composed of concrete and steel, both of which do not melt from a simply fire. The World Trade Center had a fucking plane crash into the side of it and ignite jet fuel to melt the steel beams supporting the structure

>inb4 "hur hur jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams it's burning temp is too low durrrrr." Retards, it burns at a temperature where the beams are weak and will not support the full force of the building and the fucking chunks of plane still present in the building. Whether it was an inside job or not, this is all true.

>>735780036
You use gas in your house for the boiler and the cooking spot right?

>>735780805
But even with that advantage, how will the jet fuel finish off the weakened steel beams?

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>>735781023

>>735781023
>tfw forgets how to green text

Apperently, a fridge exploded in the second floor

>>735777024
The plane PLUS the fire

Also, the London building is not the same structure as WTC (which were held up by central core beams)

The events of 9/11 occurred exactly the way the United States government claims they did because Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow say so.

>>735780943
its june, summerfag

>>735781036
The jet fuel burning temperature weakend the steel structure of the building Wich collapsed in a chain reaction under it's own weight

>>735781182
>The jet fuel burning temperature weakend the steel structure of the building Wich collapsed in a chain reaction under it's own weight
lol you believe that?

just blame the muslims. that's how we'll get rid of them all.

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>>735778766
>gets his information from YouTube videos
>believes 9/11 conspiracy theories

Adds up

>>735781182
>weakend

funny how all the "truthers" are semiliterate at best

>>735780754
Because they are idiots. They have no concept of structural engineering or metal metallurgy.

how could 9/11 happen if the earth is flat?

>>735776354
English construction quality > American construction quality.

Americans just can't do anything right.

The jet fuel was the giant fire balls that exploded out the other side of the buildings, it didn't magically come to a stop inside and burn like oil candles. LOL

>>735781445
Be careful there, citing a fucking 70s office block poorly maintained enough for a huge fucking fire to break out isnt a great way to promote the quality of our buildings.
Much better to cite either the buildings that are older than the US and could survive a plane crash or our civil engineering, some of which is pretty impressive if you hadnt noticed

>>735781306
>implies Youtube contains no credible information because he doesn't want the events of 9/11 questioned.

Just go back to sleep.

>>735781783
Have you poured over the data yourself? The facts, the figures?

>>735781783
Seriously though, you are fucking retarded if you actually believe any of those truther YouTube videos contain ant credible information. Please don't procreate

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>>735781182
>>735781311

>>735781306
Because people have taken offence over this, I would like to clarify that I don't believe 9/11 conspiracies actually, because i'm not a fucking idiot

>>735781901
>poured

You mean "pored". I won't bother to explain, just take it from me that you're wrong. Again.

>>735781901
*pored

Now who's semi-literate?

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>jet beams wont melt steel fuel

>>>@jfdmsb

>>735781311
My first language is Italian, sorry
If with semiliterate you mean automation engineer you are totally right

Thoughts and prayers are still not working. /b/ must do sumfin

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>>735782220
Ugh

>>735782220
Have we tried ignoring it?

>>735782204
Don't mind these britfags anon, they are not even European

>>735782012
>>735782012
that made me laugh out loud you candy-ass roody-poo

>>735780773
>big fucking plane puts hole in building
>fire gets so hot it actually melts the fucking aluminum
>gets compared to 26 story apartment building with a severe lack of jet plane inside of it

fuck off cunt

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This is just how it is to live in a big city. The best thing to do is to carry on as usual, don't install fire alarms or install sprinklers.Go on about as you always do!

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>>735782409

>>735782080
>>735782061
Yeah you totally proved me wrong over an autocrrect.

Doesn't the fact that all the engineers in this fucking board are as you call us "truthers" rings you a bell? Because maybe people with a fucking degree in the fucking field know a bit better than a retarded monkey showing what he found in a 5 minutes research on Google

>>735781783
>implying Youtube information is not wrong until proven wrong
pro tip, it has, faggot

>>735780062
>implying they can read

You guys might want to learn some:

>Basic physics
>Mechanics (mostly statics)
>Strength of materials
>Thermodynamics

before saying 9/11 was or wasn't an inside job. There are actually a lot of easy to follow tutorials online. I think if you know basic math and have some determination you could get the basics down in one week.

Then you can look at the situation again and make a more educated guess at what really happened.

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>>735782856
oh boy pls read the 9/11 commission if you're actually an engineer
new law, if you're an engineer and a 9/11 truther, you lose your job on the spot

There's no structure on earth that would survive an impact with an almost fully fueled 767.

>>735776354
Agreed OP

The British build stronger buildings than the muricans

>>735780364
die

>>735777198
Cos it doesnt contain any Jew Gold in the basement

>>735777777

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>>735781023
>>735781182
>>735782531
>>735782996
>molten steel under the towers for weeks
>thermite residue found

>>735776354
>Muh muslims...

>>735783516
>molten steel under the towers for weeks
nope
>thermite residue found
LMAO you're actually a fucking idiot

>>735781149
Underrated.

Not understanding the WTC load was held on the exterior of the building to maximize office space.

>>735780432
Tbh, a big enough rock could topple any buildinh

>>735783678
https://www.google.com/amp/s/truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/molten-metal-under-trade-center-rubble-could-not-have-come-from-jet-fuel/amp/

>21 days after

maybe cite something and not shitpost. i might just have an internet article but you're the real fucking idiot.

>>735777662
So cute when shills fail at co-opting our lexicon. Try harder next time, intern.

>>735783885
http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html
The metal pouring out of the building in your first reply is aluminium btw

Better get our hashtags ready then.

>#PrayFor [Insert popular western city here]

>>735782996
The empire state building survived a direct hit by a fucking bomber.

>>735782842
Bit wierd for auto correct to change from a correct spelling. Nice try.

>>735784636
the bomber was significantly smaller than a fully fueled 757, and was going slow as fucking hell

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I worked with Oliver Stone on the WTC movie. There was NO thermite found at the site. The events themselves that unfolded were meticulously recorded and investigations showed exactly what happened. There's no need for a conspiracy concept around the 9/11 attacks.

If you want to look at what a real conspiracy looks like, where the truth has been deliberately obscured by law enforcement, the FBI and the US Government... take a look at the Flight 800 explosion. Even eyewitness testimony by members of the US Coastguard were aggressively suppressed. This incident took place just before 9/11 in 2001. I was booked on that flight but broke up with my GF (we were headed to Italy from Canada via NY) and cancelled my tickets. Evidence clearly dictates this plane was shot down over the water after takeoff.

Muslims killing people again

>>735784636
B25 =\= 747

Not even close to the same size/mass/speed fucktard.

Incredible that not a single white british male/female was injured or killed

>>735779162
That meme is bull,

I looked for a fucking Rolex on there and I couldn't find shit.

Only shitty free watches with overpriced shipping

>>735778151
Oh dear.

>>735777567
literally this

>>735784661

weird*

>>735782936
everyone look at this genius
he's smarter than all of us

>>735779780
kek

>>735776354
>being this stupid

although i do agree theres somthing fishy about building 7, i dont think came dowwn on its own accord, the twin towers were hit by jumbo fucking jets

between the two events theres a slight difference in ignition sources and impact damage wouldnt you agree

>>735785003
There aren't any in London.

>>735779982
What is this? A structure fire for ants!?

Are there any videos of people jumping?

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"Pilots are used to looking at other airplanes in flight. It would be hard for a pilot to misidentify something rising up from the water, climbing almost 14,000 feet into the air and striking an aircraft that was flying between 10 and 40 miles in front of them. It would be equally difficult to miss something that was just falling out of the sky, on fire, after exploding in flight for no apparent reason.

After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane."

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-pilot-twa-flight-800-shot-article-1.2186329

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_conspiracy_theories

>>735782359
MAXIMUM OVER LOL

>>735784715
No you fucking didn't.

Quit trying to shift the narrative you shekel grubbing shill.

>>735780036
Are your walls made of brick? What about the insulation inside, the wiring, pipes, the paint, ceiling? Is your furniture made of brick? Carpet? Tv? If the "fricking bricks" become hot, the things next to them become hot.

>>735780036
yeah because rocks don't get hot

I am simply uninterested in 911 conspiracies.

Hidden.

>>735784661
It actually does on android. Keep trying faggot

>>735780036
even assuming the walls would just be made out of bricks alone, they still would heat up and then it would heat up your neighbors flat

>>735782649
True and depressing

>>735776354
No jet fuel.

>>735779296
No you wont

>>735782034
Controlled demolition isn't a conspiracy theory and yes you're a complete. Idiot

>>735776354
>Grenfell
>still hasn't fell

Boy, whoever named that must feel like a failure right about now.

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>>735781306

It's almost like different buildings are built differently and behave differently when they undergo some kind of destructive force especially when said force is of an entirely different nature. Weird.

>>735782531
Aluminium?
Stop right there
In the U.S steel framed buildings are actually aluminium framed buildings this explains why they collapsed. I thought it was a controlled Demolition now I know I've been wrong all of the time.
By the way get some chicken wire make a box and throw an aluminium can at it as hard as you can see what happens
>you might realise how the trade centres were built to withstand an aircraft impact

>>735776354

>Glorious Britbong construction > shitty American steel

>>735783951
>what is sarcasm

>>735787959
This is the tower THEY don't want you asking about. It had been poorly engineered, and there was no real solution but a massive financial loss, but what a coincidence! It also collapsed and the insurance paid out. Whew, talk about a totally random lucky break!

british supreme engineering? more like made in fuckin china.

>>735780702
WTC7 had no force on it's supports or plane.
Just plain old fires brought it down according to the 9/11 report.

>>735776947
A hollow aircraft made out of light weight aluminum

>>735790770
except we know plain old fires couldn't have brought it down. Meaning that the veracity of the 911 report has been compromised.

Lol, shitty British public housing. I want them all to die. Everyone in there is an unemployed fuck with 6 kids that smokes indoors with the windows up and drinks all day. Real fucking scummy people. The money saved in the long run will be worth it if all those people perished. Shame

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>>735791442

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>>735782936
good good..

learn from him

>>735776354
Lower Temp Fire, Different Building, Different structural damage, different fire start. Yeah your totally not just baiting bud.

>>735776354
simple, no 'jet fuel'

Are Skepta and Stormzy safe guys? #prayforgrime

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>>735776354
come on guys. who knows which alt right lit shit up?
most interviewed residents are brownies and females wear hijab.

>>735782856
Engineers have no idea what goes on in the field though. Most have never even been to home depot

>>735779296
faggot

>>735794651
Ha ha

>>735787959
But why tho?

What could they possibly have wanted to cover up so badly? Americans tend to forgive so easily on politicians anyway. What could it have been?

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u have to be stupid to think that sand niggers wer able to take over planes wit hundreds of ppl wit fucken box cutters. ull have to be retarded to think that the architect didnt build these twin towers which wer the tallest building sin the world at the time, to withstand a fucken plan hit. and u have to be dumb fuck stupid if u havent already seen the youtube videos that actually show u demolitions bein activated in the building as it collapsed. nvr mind all the firemen, police who said they heard explosions.

>>735779296
Nope, because high rise buildings are built with a safety margin which includes fire damage.

>>735784715
kike

>>735777567
/thread

Yeah fire resistant, not impact resistant. People don't make car proof first floors either to prevent drunk drivers from making their office a drive thru.

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>>735795113
I've got news for you. The U.S. Government is not capable of carrying out a conspiracy that huge. They can't even keep their NSA surveillance secrets a secret. The government cant fucking tie it's shoes never mind pull a fast one like that. ESPECIALLY under GW Bush. Quite possibly the dumbest president ever until he was eclipsed by the stupidity of the Donald Trump.

>Fucking bizarre world we live in...

>>735795465

Basically this.

It amazes me that these idiots think the government is capable of pulling off such an amazing feat and keep it under wraps, and we have all these government rats spilling the beans about useless shit on wikileaks.

Seriously. You guys give American entirely too much credit.

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>>735795465
ur right, they didnt get away wit it. their is plenty of evidence that show they had a hand in all this. thing is most ppl dont wan to believe that their government wod kill them.

>>735776354
Implying that both structures are of the same design and cause of destruction.

>>735795603

There is a difference between believing the government will kill you, and believing every single time their is an attack it's the government.

Do I think the American government has done shady shit? Absolutely. Does that mean they went through the trouble to do 9/11? Very doubtful. People can't keep their mouths shut for shit in this country. Just look at wikileaks. But keeping secret the murdering of thousands of Americans? Give me a fucking break you idiot. Your circumstantial and anecdotal evidence (I talked to an engineer!) isn't proof of anything.

>>735782034
You may not be an idiot but you are undoubtedly a retarded sheep if you think the terrists hijacked 4 planes and hurt Muricans freedums just because that's supposedly what terryrists do

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>>735795603

I'm >>735795465
My government would kill me, sure, but they'd get caught trying to blow up buildings & blaming it on planes. It's simply infeasable. The government is too dumb. That's the truth.

>>735795639
All highrise buildings in western countries are built with the understanding they could suffer from catastrophic fires and are engineered accordingly.

>>735795588
How do you know the leaks aren't planned as well?

Anyone ever hear of False Flag Operations?

Keep drinking the koolaid and believing the US government wouldn't or couldn't pull it off. It's what they want. You don't want the cows to notice they're entering the slaughter house so stay blind don't question anything

>>735795765
its called compartmentalize retard, i swear all the deniers in here must be under 25yr. there r groups of hundreds of enginseers that signed petitions sayin that this was an inside job. listen i cant argue all day and this happaend yrs ago, check out a documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY5pg2n95ko if it doesnt change ur mind, at the very least it will make u suspicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmNjl4_wdU

>>735795889
they wer caught, keep in mind this was b4 the net was user freindly. the media was told wat to say like they r now. only certain groups in the gov knew about this, they even told our war plans to stand down, not to intercept the jets, check out that documentary i linked. i forgot alot of the info

>>735795889
>government is too dumb
>says the guy who is too unaware of basic physics to question the idea of a building falling in a controlled manner after being hit by a fucking jetliner, and instead believes it fell because of a fire. A fire at the top of the building.

OK then kiddo. Gubment is dumb, this is what daddy taught you after he came home from his wageslaving?

>>735796193
I work in government - well, I used to. Trust me. They're incapable of what you think they're capable of.

>>735796324
Doing what? I don't trust you. I live in a country where my government watches every single person and seems to be very smart about the way they strip liberties from common people. I am sure that government accountants or administration workers don't plan these kinds of things, so unless you worked at the top of the DoD or similar then no, I won't trust a word you say about how smart the government is

>>735796324
And I'm the space pope

>>735778968
HMMM steel burns?ffs Morons need not watch
For the undying 9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>735796324
Bitch you could be trashman you work for government

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>>735776354
>watch german news
>brits lit their biggest bong yet
>fire started at 12 am
>still hanst collapsed
>news man tells us how european buildings are built more robust
>staircase & elevator in the center of the building making it better than twin towers
>b..but sir, I say to the tv and show pic related
>the twin tower staircases were in the middle of the building

mfw german gov. propaganda and the murcans will believe it.

>>735796493
>Kero doesn't burn at 1500 unless you control combustion

>>735796493
b..but THE JEEWWWSS
or something

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9/11 was only Muslims
There aren't only 2 genders
Spam is horse meat
Barbra Streisand is a crab person
Monks control the weather

>>735796714
Sorry thought this was the batshit crazy thread

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Tower 7....untouched you claim? morons

>>735783885

>truthandshadows.wordpress.com

oh yeah, that sounds reliable.

>>735796823
thats not even building 7

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>>735776710
The floor structures of the world trade centers were made of ~ 1 inch steel rod trusses in a lattice work with thin sheets on top. When the fucking thing was being planned and made there was huge opposition because of the instability of the floors but it was ignored because of the huge political connecting with money tied to it. Guess what, these 1 inch steel rods become incredibly soft and pliable at the burning temperature of jet fuel. Most other buildings aren't made this fucking stupidly. An analogy to the WTC would be holding a piece of paper with some weight on it then spraying the paper with water. You're a fucking retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>735796685
It had a chimney almost 1774 ft high to build up a draught

>>735780036
The fire set the cladding on the outside on fire and it went in through open windows and patio doors

>>735785409
kek

you see those streams of water hitting the tower? yeh those are fire fighters, they are able to spray water onto the fire to help fight it because the fire is low enough.

>>735797059
But no controlled atomisation or pressurisation, which is what allows kero to burn hot in a jet turbine

>>735797091
Doing things on the cheap. plus the flats are divided up with wooden frames and most furniture etc inside them is highly flammable

>>735785565
Is all brick

>>735782856
kek, nope. You're just a retard who wishes engineers were retarded with you.

my mud hut dont burn down hah suck that white man

>>735797211
90,000 gallons of flaming fuel running down a 500 ft lift shaft, for example, would have the same effect

>>735783885
>uses an unsourced article as evidence
it constantly quotes "molten metal" and then jumps to "molten steel" you're aware that aluminium has a melting point well below that of the combustion temp of jet fuel.

>>735783885
>truthandshadows.wordpress.com


You're a total fucking idiot. Citing nothing is better than citing some lunatic with access to a computer. Jesus Christ. You want me to cite 1500 news articles from reputable sources whom you will immediately (and with no proof of any kind) call fake news? Seems like a waste of time.

Please an hero you mongoloid nigger faggot.

"pet drool can't melt seal dreams"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>735795237
Do you even know what a safety margin is

>>735777420
what would be the point of destroying B7?

>>735797581
But your couch will when you fall asleep drunk with a burning doobie. That'll kill you

>>735797688
it held secret UFO files and files about other military top secrets

>>735787959
The most damning evidence was a live news feed admitting that they were about to bring the building down. But then everyone stopped saying they were gonna bring it down and covered up that story.

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>>735796888
TRIPS OF TRUTH

>>735796888
not the bldg in the foreground. 7 is the one being struck in the background.

>>735797741
why not just put those documents through a paper shredder?

>>735776354

im sure you have all the structural details and have compared both buildings. Also this fire was probably not started with 4 wings filled with airplane fuel. bait taken and destroyed, go home now kids. nothing to see here

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>>735782936
Physicist here, yeah hi. You're a dumbass. The WTC had all of it's load bearing on I-beams on the corners to maximize space and the flooring was just latticed steel rods with steel sheets on top, no steel reinforced concrete, no even weight distribution. Guess what happens to metal as it heats up, that right sonny, it gets soft until it melts. Soft stuff bends more than hard stuff. Following me? Now imagine how much weight an entire floor of the WTC contained, now imagine that falling down a few meters to next floor which was already weakened by the heat. It fucking buckles and collapses, then you have 2 floors worth of steel and offices falling down, then 3 then 4 then 5 etc. Not much chance of 1 in steel lattice to withstand the impact of several hundred tonnes of material falling on it.

>inb4 not an engineer, I have degrees in math, physics and specialization in astrophysics

>>735797584
No, it wouldn't, Kero takes a very particular set of conditions for clean combustion and atomisation of the Kero is the key because it has a very low evaporation rate. Undoubtedly it increased the fuel load the fire had immensely but it wouldn't have increased the temperature of the fire by any real margin over the other fuel sources the fire also had.

To be clear, I'm not trying to argue the fire couldn't have cause the buildings to collapse, I'm arguing against the claim that the Kero was the linchpin to this idea.

>>735797950
heh
wtc was not in space, astroboy. try again.

>>735797768
Of course they were going to have to bring it down in the following days it was all over the news that day! The building was already adjudged to have been too damaged from the collapse of the towers to be salvageable on the day

>>735776354
New bot thread nice cancer.

>>735798011
Good theory but Jet A1 was not the only thing burning. There were all the office fittings plus other things adding to the combustion

>>735798011
>atomisation
you don't think it hitting a concrete steel building at a couple hundred ks per hour would atomize the fuel? that's why there is a big fireball after the planes hit.

y'all niggas postin in a troll thread

anyway the wtc was uniquely framed tube construction, there are very few examples of this specific style (IIRC there's one in chicago somewhere that looks identical to wtc 1/2)
More modern buildings use tube in tube, or bundled tube, etc.

The unique and crappy design of the wtc combined with heat and impact means the only way to repeat the results is to run a plane in to the aon center.

>>735798366
Which is pretty much my point anon.

>>735798392
Which then dissipated as the Kero returned to burning as it does

>>735798011
This http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html

>>735798022
Yeah, but guess what is required for a physics degree. Everything and engineer learns plus the derivations of physical properties. I have additional specialization numbnuts, not less expertise.

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>>735776354
BUSH DID 9/12

>>735776354
It's maybe 1/3rd the size of the WTC. It's not nearly as heavy.

>>735798508
It really is rocket science! Engineers rule

>>735777662
That's the absolute worst and dumbest reason I have ever heard for building 7 falling even after it is well documented that the building was intentionally imploded. The owner of the wtc complex said in an interview that the building was intentionally brought down. Is this bait or are people actually that dumb? By your logic if I'm fucking some pussy in a threesome and my sperm splashes and hits the bitch I don't have my dick in, they both will get pregnant...fucking research and think

>>735797659
In the case of large buildings like this, it's failure redundancy, components are over-engineered to prevent catastrophic failures

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>>735776354
the only answer is
Terrorists built this building

>>735798954
got suace?

>>735780510
made me lol

>>735776354
>been burning for over 7 hours.
Jesus christ london fire crews, get your shit together

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>>735797844
Because it's cooler to say it was lost in a fire

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>>735799000
checked! tripple ought!

and
>Terrorists built this building!

KEK

the mindless cattle that dont get it also think we landed on the moon 50 yrs ago. Life is hell walking among these robots

>>735799008
https://youtu.be/ZeuQqP-NLnE

https://youtu.be/p34XrI2Fm6I

You can try either of these. I won't do much searching to find others because like I said it's well documented.

>>735799513
ty anon

There are still conspiracy theorists complaining about 9/11 in 2017...

>>735799627
>imblying any conspiracy simply evaporates

Any fellow britbongs hoping it will collapse just for something interesting to see? I am severely disappointed by the lack of gore material surrounding the Manchester attack.

>>735776354
Looks ok to me, just need some paint, new carpet and just sweep out any dead bodies that have been cooked (making sure to check the teeth for gold fillings (keep any that are found, profit?))

>>735799750
>UK
>Teeth

No.

>>735799861
all the fucking pikies have gold fillings, they are the UK version of niggers.

>>735800412
Probably just melted copper

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people died in a fire last night

>>735799627

Doesn't hurt to be sceptical.

It is well known that only a few decades ago the U.S. Government:

- Planned to fake terrorist attacks to generate public support for foreign policy

- Forcibly tested chemicals and other experimental substances on military personnel, in some cases leading to death and permanent disability

- Injected random citizens with plutonium for experimentation

Yet people some still find the notion that the Government might not be 100% honest completely implausible.

I don't really buy into most of the conspiracy theories but I still find the people who automatically deny them to be the more stupid (or at least naive) ones.

>>735800592
Don't forget Tuskegee

>>735800591
its big news here. nothing much happens in the UK apart from the occasional brown person rampage and rain

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remember you too can help out by posting it on your facebook and getting all emotional about people you never met

Implying mandkind has visited moon even though retards like OP are in the gene pool. Check mate, chessplayers.

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>>735781023

>>735780702
>>735797037
The feasibility of an airplane impact was noted before construction so preparations were made during. The towers could withstand multiple collisions, including fuel.
We all have the same information at hand, so confirmation bias is blatantly obvious among you official story fags.

>>735789533
>back-peddling this hard

You really are new.

>>735776710
The thing I don't get about this conspiracy is that it's needlessly complicated. If it was the government's plan to do this in order to gain public support for intervention in the Middle East, then why wouldn't it be enough to get some terrorists to fly planes into the twin towers and destroy them that way? Why would they have planes fly into the towers AND use explosives? That would only make the chances of their involvement being exposed much higher. Add Tower 7 to that and it gets even less plausible.

I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, but for those who do; why do you think that the twin towers were brought down with controlled demolitions instead of the planes? Of course there being controlled demolitions would be solid proof for your theory, not having them wouldn't really hurt your theory at all.

>>735781023
All the jet fuel was burned off in the explosion, asshat.

>>735783678
Picture of molten steel from WTC and still does not believe. Dipshit.

>>735777420
No plane hit it but a BUILDING hit it! maybe you should google photos of the south side of the building and while you are at it, google fire chief's negro's comments regarding 7

>>735781600
what is magic is how your brain manages to type words. The fireball was just that, a ball, it spread it every direction from the impact so some of it went through the other side and the rest went to every angle of the building and down the elevator shafts, that's what fireballs do.

>>735795465
Not done by official govt. Done by deep state, elites, globalists, whatever you want to call them....the ones behind the scenes that REALLY pull the strings in govts of USA and its allies.

>>735776354
>implying americans know how to construct structurally sound buildings.

>>735776354

normal fire vs plane crashing into building....

>>735802245
its molten aluminum

>>735776354
British building > American building
That's all.

>>735802024
The Towers were owned by the Port of New York. They were also wrapped head to toe in asbestos. This had to be dealt with & the cost would be astronomical. The buildings couldn't even be demolished without this first taking these steps. Enter Larry Silverstein, who bought the property six months prior & is currently developing the new site. That's one lucky bastard... The operation was so sporadic because they were trying to kill to many birds: New Pearl Harbor, drop the Towers, bury the missing 2.3 trillion, etc. They think they are better than they really are & nothing ever goes exactly as planned. 7 was supposed to go down with the others but likely malfunctioned.

>>735803372
>What are hermetically sealed shafts only very few of which traveled the length of the building?

>If it actually falls the conspiracy theory will be this was a controlled demolition, and possibly also meant to shut up 9-11 truthers about building 7.

Every fucking smith in this world will tell you that it does not need a whole lot of temperature to start structural changes in steal.

Do not argue with truthers. No matter what you do, it will only make them more entrenched. Just ignore them like you would ignore other crazy people

>>735807993
>what are multiple secondary explosions including in the basements and lobbies

>what are pools of molten STEEL underneath the rubble thermographically measurable for several months

>>735797624
fag

>>735780805
Wait really? There was only one center support?
Iron erector here, although the one bean thing is shocking, that would mean the building would sway and fall, not collasp. I'm shocked at there only being one center support, but that only strengthens the "government did it" argument. Without proper truss support on a building that large, I surprised it didn't sway in the wind like a damn tree.

>>735810237
Beam*

>>735810237
The twin towers didn't have any center support. It had a novel design that was supposed to be stronger than traditional methods (unless all fire-suppression systems failed and one of the floors was flooded with an accellerant). It's supports were all on the outside wall. I think they called it the carapace design, but it's been like 10 years since I graduated so I may be remembering the mimetic device instead of the actual name.

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>>735810237

throw some jet fuel on there worked for 9/11

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>>735776354
ArchitectFag here:

I looked up the construction drawings online today - they are publically available if you know where to look. There was nothing wrong with what the architects did. They just covered the entire building in insulation panels that were clad in aluminium.

The fire was caused by a resident's fridge exploding. The fire in his flat made its way to the outside insulation and the fire just run up the outside of the building working its way throughout the insulation layer.

Kind of like setting fire to someone coated in petrol.

All I think is how much the construction industry is pushed to insulate our buildings to ensure they retain they're heat. It certainly worked this time.

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>>735796823
Kek

>>735778151
yep, I'm going to guess it's a recurrence of power surges: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/grenfell-tower-from-bad-to-worse/

only way fire could so rapidly consume an entire building.

https://youtu.be/32-Ctx7MhKY

>>735779676
Still not funny

>>735780036
Britcuck engineering xDDDDD

>>735776433
literally the dumbest thing, holy shit

>>735780036
It can spread up (or down - from falling debris) the exterior of a block. through the ducting carrying services to each flat if they're not isolated from one unit to the next, it spreads along corridors the same way.
If the isolation and insulation of any part of the building is insufficient to withstand fire and heat then the fire will spread.

>>735776354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

Even this redneck knows you're full of shit.

>>735777662
wut

Jet fuel from a building over a block away brought it down?

Are you autistic?