Where do you stand politically /b? https://8values.github.io/index.htm l

die commie scum

>>735612026
Yes

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heard you liked free stuff OP...

>>735612026
Let's see where your fascist ass lands then.

>>735611959
>70 questions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK OFF

>>735612026
no u

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Look at how sensible and boring I am

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>>735611959
nigger

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>>735611959
This is fairly accurate.

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>>735612026
>>735612142
>Muh redpill

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>>735611959

>>735612684
Jesus fucking Christ you are far-centrest. There's no hope for you.

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Kek

>>735612921
>far-centrest
>centrest

C'mon man...

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>>735611959
I'm satisfied with this.

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>>735612900
>>735612995
G'day Comrades

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>>735611959
You are a idiotic child

>>735612684
jesus, if it's possible to be an extremist moderate, its you

>>735612848
Basically you have tumblr politics

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>>735611959
You're my nigger OP.

>>735613150
Hello Trumptard.

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>>735611959

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>>735613150

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>>735613269
>Trump
>NeoCon
You have no idea what you're talking about moron

>>735613150
>idiotic child
Why are conservatives such insufferable cunts? This is especially confusing since you're all juvenile edgelords yourselves. The liberal normies from your high school don't like you so you swing way over to the opposite direction as part of your rebellion against them.

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looks like I'm a big ole fascist.

>>735613581
Why are liberals such smug self-righteous masturbatory jackoffs?
Serious question.

>>735613240
Not at all.

>>735613712
Most of us really aren't. Serious answer.

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Yeah, fairly accurate.

>>735613674
>looks like I'm a big ole faggot

ftfy

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OP here, finally an updated version of my results.

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>>735611959

>>735613383
>>735613872
You and I would get along just fine.

>>735613581
Most aren't, you see groups and organizations are comprised of individuals in pursuit of common interest, but you idiotic liberals fail to realize that, therefore blanket idiotic statements such as yours occur.

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>>735611959
I got what most would call, 'common sense'.

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This is a comfy thread. R8 me.

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>>735613150
muh glorious leaders!

>>735614051
>condemns blanket idiotic statements
>makes a blanket idiotic statement in the same sentence
wew

>>735613712
>>735614051
>I still think liberal = all leftists
Read up some before you insult people. None of us agree with the Democrats. There's nothing libertarian or socialist about them.

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>>735613262
>>735613979
>>735612900
>>735612995
>>735613321
>>735613383
>>735613872
Mah comrades...

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Am I a SJW?

>>735613240
>Economic centrist
>Slightly liberal leaning
>tumblr
Do you know what any of these words mean.

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accurate

>>735614404
What blanket statement did I make, that individuals form collective groups? Mancur Olson garbage can model, individuals will tend to not form collectives unless motivated by personal gain, economic, power or other, in forming groups individuals surrender part of their initial power and competitiveness for cooperation thus concede to pursue the common goal. While that works for small groups, large ones, such as parties, will have to ensure individual gain on all levels of participation.
Or that liberals disregard this- the very facet of modern liberalism is equality, usually ensured and secured by the state, there is no individual gain, all that must be secured is the "common good". Groups do not facilitate or ensure individual "profit", society is divided between large social groups-oppressed and oppressor, divided on several strata-economic, social, religious, gender, even territory (center, periphery) and society must lessen the gap between this divisions.
You clearly have no idea what are the basic propositions of your ideology.
Again I ask what blanket statement

>>735614702
Seriously, fuck liberals. They pretend to represent equality and workers, but are controlled by bankers and capitalists.

If it weren't for liberals we'd have socialism back in FDR's day.

>Hurr durr we can't afford socialism

That's what they said during the leftist populist uprising in the 30s and 40s when we were pushing for a 40-hour work week, workers comp, union rights, and a safe work place. We immediately became more successful.

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Old one

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>>735615151
New one

>>735614983
tl;dr

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>>735611959
>libertarian
>communist
Is it even a thing? How the fuck you have a communist society with no government?

>>735615191
Fairly consistent.

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>be me
>spend solid 12 hours tripping on acid last night
>fucking around with a hammer and sickle on pixel canvas between games last night
>Turns out I'm a dirty fucking commie

Sorry for fucking with your-

O-our shit.

C-comrades.

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hmm

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>>735615399
Libertarian, in this context, means that the state does not intervene on issues of morality.

US Libertarianism typically is a bastardization of the word. It typically means pro-gay, pot-smoking right wing populists.

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>>735615470
This guy gets it.

>>735615581
Go back to r/neolibral you capitalist pig.

>>735615313
And yer another empirical example of liberals being idiotic children. I should really use this or some other ideology quiz and formulate a questionnaire that measures maturity, this hypothesis seems more and more valid

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SIMPLY THE MOST RATIONAL

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I'm coming for your precious property.

>>735615887
>liberals being idiotic children
I stopped reading there

>>735615887
>empirical example
Tihi
Stay with the traditions that you know about.
Let the science to the progressive ones will you.

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About right

>>735615599
You still didn't answer me how the fuck someone can be a communist and a libertarian. Communism means no private property. Who is gonna enforce that I cannot keep some property to myself, even if I don't need it (I am a greedy jew btw)?

>>735612995
Still the most revolutionary in this thread.
>>735615599
I still don't see anything wrong with pro gay pot smoking right wing populists.

Don't really care what the other axis say.

But I guess we can all agree that the ones with big-blue authority block are humongous faggots.

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>>735616253

>>735615399
Actually, friend, communism according to Marx has no state. It's exactly for this reason that LibComs, not Marxist-Leninists, are most suited to usher in such a society. If you have questions, I can try and answer them for you.

>>735616080
>Let the science to the progressive ones will you.
I have no idea what you were attempting to say but I have a bachelor's degree in poli sci and minored in economics, saving up for a masters, probably quantitative methods and econ modelling, we'll see

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>>735614908
No friend, you're a decent person

>>735616253
They're certainly better than right-wingers that hate gay people and weed, but right now, it seems that we need a true leftist government to sort out the extreme inequality we're seeing.

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>>735616527
Got the same anon

Jesus, I got a libertarian socialism result with a 92% progress bias. Revolution now. Let's Smash the State

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>>735616418
Thanks, I am actually curious. In a anarcho-communist society, what could prevent others to take property that I consider mine? (e.g. I raised some livestock to feed my family, and some asshole steal it to feed his)

>>735616253
As a pro gay pro pot socialist, i guess it isn't so bad

>>735616273
Comrades need to deal with these fascists

>>735616176
Libertarian =/= Anarchist

>Communism means no private property

You are right, kinda. Communism draws a distinction between "Private Property" and "Personal Property."

Yeah, that Macbook you are using is YOURS and YOURS only. The state will defend your right to own it. You don't own companies. You don't own roads, or farms. But you do own your own personal shit.

>>735616176
nigger, you cant own private property in any case.
sure, you can put a shitload of money down and theyll let you stick your name over the door for a while, but stop paying your tax rent to the US government, and see who really owns your property. doesnt matter if youve paid it off to the bank or not. you die, and if you dont leave it to another qualified rent payer, right back into the gov's hands it is. they dont have to buy it from you, because its theirs. their laws still apply to it. you dont get to just make up your own laws and claim its your private land.

>>735616769
My man

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Pretty balanced over here.

>>735616464
A hint then before you start any reasearch project.

Learn the meaning of empirical.
(what you think it means is quite the opposite of empirical, aka anecdotal)

> Wrong: And yer another empirical example of liberals being idiotic children.
> Correct: And yer another anecdotal example of liberals being idiotic children.

Dumb to spend your fathers hard earned cash on an education just to fail on the most basic of things.

>>735611959
like all the survey sights, it leans left. they pegged me and a neocon. WTF? not even close

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>>735611959

>>735615115
Incompetent.

>>735616887
lolwat

>>735616812
Anarcho-Communist can't work, unfortunately. The power-vacuum would be filled nearly immediately, probably by fascists and capitalists.

Now Libertarian Communism can. You need central planning for certain core industries as well as scientific enterprises, but the govt won't get involved in moral choices.

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>>735611959
Rate me.

>>735616887
THIS. This is exactly the difference between Communism and Capitalism. (in both, you can have personal property, but in Capitalism, only the elite have PRIVATE property)

Capitalism involves the banks owning nearly all your private assets, except your personal belongings.

Communism the public (including you) own all the resources, except you own your personal belongings.

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A lot of commies here. I think you guys would like a free helicopter ride.

>>735617130
>central planning for certain core industries
That would be Libertarian Socialism

Communism is central planning for all industries.

And if I'm allowed to smoke and fuck whatever I want, but I'm forced to work 12h shifts at the land mine factory, I wouldn't call that liberty.

>>735617022
Neocons are actually centre-right on the global political scale, considering they are die-hard capitalists.

>>735616922
Empirical-based or verified by observation or contextual experience, rather than theoretical proof, is it anecdotal as in the sense it's one guy, sure, is it empirical, as in brought about by practice, yes. Also my father is dead I earned three scholarships putting myself through school.

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I guess im just a boring fuck

Communism wants to force equality on everyone and take away their freedom. Communism is rape.

Liberalism wants to let everyone decide for themselves and set them free. Liberalism is consensual sex.

/thread

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I wish there was an I don't care option.

>oh you mean neutral.

>>735617436
I totally agree. But we can agree a completely free market will give you those 12 hour shifts.

The US didn't ditch it till the leftist populist movement of the 30s and 40s gave Americans a 40 hour work week through government regulation

Regulations that were said to hurt business, but actually brought more success.

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>>735617626

I apparently can't use paint for shit.

>>735617544
>is it empirical, as in brought about by practice, yes

It's not empirical in any sense of the word.

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ITT

>>735617581
As the test pointed out, I think we need to draw a distinction between government involvement in issues like morality (gay rights/pot rights/gun rights/etc) and economic issues (corporate raping of the middle class/ irresponsible banking behavior etc)

>>735617726
>But we can agree a completely free market will give you those 12 hour shifts.
That we can.

>>735617771
Of course it is you formulate a hypothesis on a specific observable problem, than you gather evidence, either by theoretical verification or empirical verification, an experiment is empirical verification so is observation.

Communism and capitalism are both stupid. I want to own my land. I want to own my resources. I want to own my personal property. It is mine. Anyone, government, corporation, or individual which attempts to take what is mine should expect to fight. That should be the only true law.

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Pretty average me thinks.

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>>735612995
mah nigga

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I stand on the side of logic and reasoning. Not like the pussy leftists or the nazi rights.

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>>735617949
What you described is called anarcho-capitalism my friend.

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When you shoot your neighbour's escaped child sex slaves for starving on your lawn

>>735617949
Anarcho-capitalism (also known as “libertarian anarchy” or “market anarchism” or “free market anarchism”) is a libertarian and individualist anarchist political philosophy that advocates the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty in a free market.

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Commies and facists all of you.

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looks like i am a libfag but fuck it, whatever.

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>>735618155
Jesus fucking christ.

>>735617949
That's Anarcho-Capitalism. Welcome to the team. Your copies of "For a New Liberty" and "Machinery of Freedom" will arrive in 4-6 weeks.

>>735618155
I keked hard at this

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>>735618155
>mfw

>>735618133
>>735618185
But that would still allow big corporations to form. Fuck that. Bankers and businessmen are leeches. All that matters is that which is mine. No trade. No business. No state. No party.

I guess most people here are ironically racist

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Nazbol party

>>735618494
Big corporations honestly control more of an American's life than the government does.

>>735618494
Corporations are legal entities with state enforced limited liability, additionally they have a government powerful enough that is worth lobbying. Absent the state, all that shit goes away.

>>735617949
Actually, the libertarian left only has an issue with corporations and government owning everything. Personal property, like land to live on, is perfectly ok. And I agree, Capitalism is damn stupid, but that doesn't mean we should run things like the Soviets did.

>>735618599
Most of it is done by lobbying government.

>>735618599
Which is why they should be dismantled by force, then the government abolished.

>>735618494
>Business forms
>You and likeminded fellows all grab weapons and destroy the owner and his store
>You then turn on eachother and loot what's left
Is that a somewhat good representation of what you want?

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Ayy

>>735611959
Mostly I am sitting

>>735618494
Sure, it will soon or late become feudalism. Anarcho-capitalism is a meme. Stiil. what you want "mine is mine" is an utopia called anarcho-capitalism.

>>735618642
Until a powerful man decides to add to what is his, and takes what is mine. If he has an army to follow him, I can't stop him. Anarcho capitalism has no method to stop the power hungry or greedy from expanding. That's why I said I don't like communism or capitalism.

>>735618698
What prevents a bunch of Fascists and Trumpers from filling the power void by standing up a fascist government?

>>735618599
This is true. It's made worse by the fact that government and corporations are working together. This is why we need a libertarian-left movement, to ensure that the people are in charge of their own society.

>>735611959 You are such a faggot. That bullshit would never work. Probably voted for Bernie you fuckin loser.

>>735618913
It has several mechanisms, all of them market forces.

>>735618809
Yes. Except we don't have to fight at the end if we do it right. No one man should have too much, otherwise he will eventually take it from me.

>>735618863
No. I don't want that. It sounds like a Rand followers retard dream. I want Mad Max. Not your bullshit philosophy.

Every man for themselves. If you don't work, neither shall you eat. Adapt, conform and learn a skill and you will become successful.

>>735618923
Death.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=42.7&d=47.3&g=58.8&s=64.0

>>735619053
That you assume anyone wth wealth with steal shit at will says more about you than other people.

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>>735611959

>>735619041
Only force is required. The market is not a god.

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>>735618980
>I have nothing to contribute to the discussion, so I'll just flame anyone with different opinions

>>735612258
first half takes a long ass time and the rest is a breeze

>>735619245
t.literallyhitler

>>735612684
R A D I C A L
C E N T R I S T

>>735619053
So...
>You and an ally kill someone
>You agree on a 50/50 split of what he has
>You notice that he has stolen a couple pieces of X valuables
What do you do?

>>735619218
Do you have a point, or just making an observation? I've seen rich fucks and poor fucks steal. I know I don't steal. I can stop one poor man from stealing from me if I'm lucky. I can't stop 50 men hired by a rich man from stealing from me.

>>735619156
So you just want pure anarchy. Enjoy your madmax world.

>>735619430
Why did I kill and loot? It depends on that.

>>735619450
I want anarchy only because it allows me to truly own what is mine without other claimants or the threat of other claimants.

>>735619526
He was a courier with shit you wanted.

>>735619689
He was no threat to me or mine. I wouldn't have attacked him to begin with.

>>735619677
>truly own what is mine
>I come with my AK47 and take all your belongings

WHERE IS YOUR GOD KNOW?

>>735619772
Makes sense I suppose.
Would you just trade materials or have some kind of currency?

>>735619823
I have better guns and more people to use them. God has no bearing on this conflict. The stronger side will ultimately be victorious and the loser will die. But at least I managed to either kill you for trying to take what is mine, or I died defending what is mine.

>>735619907
Trade I guess, but I can't think of much that I would need to trade for.

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idk what this even means

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Never really took sides, but huh. Would've liked for there to be more questions none-the-less, but it's just my views and opinions.

>>735618980
Not an argument.

>>735618672
Well Stalinism was problematic, but you'd be surprised how well Leninism worked.

Stalin was a fascist who liked the color red.

>>735619425
Finally! Someone brave enough to say it.

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>>735611959
r8 me faggets

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Meeeeeeeeee

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Insult me for my superiority

Libertarian Socialist?

Alright.

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Definition of centrist

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>>735621211
Damn commie. You probably like Carl Marks

>>735621546

I truly don't know where the communism comes from. In practice im more of a socialist, but these questions are very idealistic.

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>>735611959
Basically freedom and nothing else.

>>735621698
Read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx. Very different from Soviet or Maoist examples.

It takes a totally pragmatic approach

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>>735612848
same my man

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Well, it got me
Social democratic here, this thing is pretty good

>>735621892
I have read it, it was a nice read. Very interesting.

>>735622130
Damn radical centrists.

>>735621892
I recommend it as well. It's only like 40 pages and is worth reading if you want a good understanding of politics and philosophy.

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well ?

>>735622407
Go back to r/neoliberal you capitalist pig.

Jk, but seriously, please read the Communist Manifesto.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=63.4&d=61.7&g=63.5&s=67.3

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Get the fuck out of my way, stalin coming in.

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>>735611959
Here Bolshevik skum

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>>735624070
Also my friend who showed me this test.

With so many Communists, socialists, social Democrats, and every stripe of classical liberal, why is 4chan known for the alt-right?

>>735624689
Have you ever been at /pol/?

>>735624689
Because b has gone to the libtard white knights

>>735623574
Revolutionary Socialism? That's new, what the fuck is that?

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>>735611959
r8

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>>735611959
Looks like I'm pretty boring then.

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>>735611959

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>>735626641
Get on my level, LARPers.

>What about the memes?
Dude, this is not comic con.

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>>735611959

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No step on snek

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Pretty accurate

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>>735611959

Best Position.

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>>735612684
I get similar results because I have some extreme viewpoints on both sides, kek.

>>735613383
>Socialist
>Progressive

Self-contradiction much?

>>735630475
Nuance my dude. Stop thinking so linearly.

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liberalism is good but most liberals nowadays are cuck retards

>>735630664
I am from one of those nice Socialist countries (Denmark, to be specific), and I can tell you it's one long spiral to shit. And that's before you take the immigrants in account.

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suck it

>>735630475
libertarian socialism is basically anarchism my G

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t. Caudillo

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>>735611959
welp

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>>735611959
Used to be a classical liberal now I'm neo

>>735613150
You disgust me.

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>>735613135
Actually Marx is authoritarian. This kind of commies is closer to Anarchism

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anything wrong with me?

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We're coming for your toothbrush, Whitey!

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I'm so middle of the road

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Just so it's clear, I absolutely hate the regressive left.

I'm Hitler!

>>735631168
What is bad about the economics?

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I'm from Europe, does it show? Can you guess which country?

>>735632779

>progressive for the sake of progression communist anarchy that capitulates to the rest of the world

You're the embodiment of autism and disappointment is what you are.

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Am I a commie?

>>735633935
Scandinavia

>>735633935

looks like germany

>>735633986
No, you are rational and compassionate.

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>>735634075
Neither

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Not going to lie the term "very progressive" actually triggers me.


Couldn't they just call it hey.. "live and let live, you're chill"

>>735634189
Britain

>>735634302
No fucking way Brits love the market

>supporting any form of government, community, or even tribe

the ultimate form of cuckoldry

>>735634482
Swiss?

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I disagree with this on some level. I disagree strongly with democracy. I'd say my political views are almost exactly those of Plato's.

>>735634623
No

>>735634616
Fuck of libtard

>>735633986
no, not even close

>>735633935
france

>>735634751
Eh... The Fuck?

Liberals typically want some form of state at minimum. That guy wants nothing.

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>inb4 libtard faggot
I voted Trump btw

>>735634965
He is a neo-liberalist you retard, the ultimate form of cuck, rather than be equal to his neighbours he'd rather suck some big corporate cock.

>>735634705

>My views align with a schizophrenic.

Congratulations.

>>735633681
It's one giant witch hunt on the people with succes.
If you earn enough money to live a good life, you are the devil, and people hate you. Socialist thinking.

>>735634993

>I voted Trump btw

So you enjoy cucking yourself?

>>735634993
Then you just don't have a very strong moral compass. You need to think more about yourself and less about others, and I mean that very literally. Stop worrying about the news and just think about why you believe the things you believe chances are you will find a lot of contradictory beliefs.

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>>735634861
You win ! Here is some tits.

>>735635103
Tesla was schizophrenic you inbred.

>>735635323
no thanks im gay

>>735631168
The only reason socialist states fail is because of immigrants.

>>735633935
Content du résultat des législatives ?

>>735635083
Neoliberalism -
a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism.

Eh, nothing he said sounds anything like that. He's probably some type of Anti-civ Primitivist.

Nothing he said implies corporate entities as being as replacement for the state

>>735635369
faggot

>>735635347

Which conclusively proves schizophrenics across the globe are genius inventors? Maybe there's a variable or two of difference between you and Tesla, no?

You fuck.

>>735635496
C'est pas la fête mais je ne suis pas surpris. Les points positifs c'est l'abstention et la défaite de JC Cambadélis pour moi.

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>>735618541
NazBol