Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense, and to protect

>>735350415
Because I own 6 ARs.

The only guns you can legally own in my country are shotguns and bolt action rifles.

>>735350415
I don't live in a shit hole

>>735350415
>self-defense, and to protect your family, home and country

From what exactly?

Because I live in a stupid country with stupid gun laws

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Because I'm not getting invaded my mole rats and groundhogs. I have a .17 for that.

>>735350415
Because I am happy having much lower amounts of murders in my country.

>>735350970

Are you fucking serious? Do you not follow the news?

Don't have a place to store it, I live in a "gun free house" yeah its gun free till the Chinese come and loot the dann place.

I can't legally own any gun in my country

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Because I'm a leaf :(

I live in Germany and i'm happy with our gunlaws. Nobody needs a gun like this

>>735352238
That's why you have and will always have people like Merkel.

>>735352238
Vereinbart, ich habe sie nur für eine kleine Weile gelebt, aber ich bin so sehr glücklich.

>>735350415
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense, and to protect your family, home and country?
>wasnt aware this was /k/

>>735350415
Because here in CA they cucked ars and make them pretty much useless. So I bought a Keltec su16b....knockoff Ruger mini14. I'm broke but armed

>>735352238
i am from GER and own a ar15....so what?
10.5" OberlandArms OA15

its not for self defence (because....we don't need it) but for hunting small game and fun at the range

>>735350415
Because AR-10 shoots bigger bullets for reaching more range n stuff

>>735352711
>broke but armed

Hi Point master race reporting in. The rest of you fuckers don't get ghost ring sights out of the box

>>735350415
i live in a country with actual logical gun laws unlike the united states lul. We have had 0 mass shootings in the past decade

>>735353420
Lol nigger with a brick

>>735353593
3 decades rather

>>735353593
what country is that anon?

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>>735350415
Because I live here. Also shotguns are more practical for any threat I might encounter.

>>735354010
not looking to start a fight and dont really consider myself a great representation of said country so id rather not comment but i can say that it is far , far away from the united states.

>>735354169
nice story anon. magical place that you made up has nice quality of life. If were a figment of your imagination i would move there.

>for self-defense
I have a shotgun.
>to protect your family
I don't have one.
>to protect your home.
See shotgun.
>to protect your country
That's what my tax dollars are for.

>>735353828
It's a brick with nice sights.

>>735354308
australia. lol

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>>735350928
Interesting comment.

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>>735354405
here you go.

>>735350415
Because 99% of people who own them are American Red Necks who don't travel outside their own neighbourhood because the world is too scary

>>735351143
This

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>>735353593
>i live in a country with actual logical gun laws unlike the united states lul. We have had 0 mass shootings in the past decade

Mexico?
Brazil?
Venezuela?

What gun-control Utopia do you live in? South Africa? Cambodia?

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>>735354556
You didn't post the one with the goddamn sights.

Admit it, the .380 has a handsome finish.

>>735354474
in the past 10 years yall have had 0 mass shooting? amazing! i guess the wharf murder wont count. the sydney siege was a made up story. the hunt family is just fine.the hectorville siege was a great game.

good story. ign 10/10 would torrent again.

>>735354691
oh pardon me. its hard for me to tell one brick from another.

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>>735350415
because I am skilled enough with the blade to deflect bullets

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>>735354691
found the one with the sights.

>>735350415
Because I have an AK you stupid faggot

>>735350415
Because People in NYC are fucking restarted and don't know what trigger discipline is and have ruined it for people in the rest of the state.

>>735352238
>Muhammad laughing with his dick in your wife

because sks's are cheaper.

>>735354949
triple homicide commited by a man with a handgun against his own family verses a lone gunman shooting 20+ children + teachers/innocent civillians at a school..... the fact that you guys dont see the comparison is genuinely terrifying. Man Monis (man behind the sydney siege) was also armed with a sawn off shotgun that fires fucking like 10 rounds per minute compared to an AR-15's 500+. One of the TWO people who died in the sydney siege was also killed in crossfire, nothing to do with the gunman. Idek why im trying to argue this but whatever.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

^

>>735355954
im not denying that murder attempts in australia do happen; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

Just ban the fuckin assualt rifles lawd have mercy

>>735356225
massacres even**

my suicide vest will save them

>>735356225
i don't think you know what an assault rifle is, or how difficult and expensive it is to legally acquire one.

>>735356413
no but i know what an AUTOMATIC firearm is and how EASY it is to legally obtain one in the united states

>>735356494
I don't think you know what an automatic firearm is either, dumbass. Or how difficult and expensive it is to legally own one.

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>>735356343

>>735356225
in my country guns are restricted to the point that only government officials can have them. yet criminals still kill us by the thousands each year.I wish that I could have a hand gun! in my town a group of people came into town and murdered someone in daylight. what did our police do? nothing. at least if i had a gun i could take one of those bastards with me before i get gunned down like a sheep.

>>735356494
yea they are easy to get if you have $10k+ to spend on a weapon. EASY if you are rich.

>>735356599
how about a handgun then? "114 million handguns+ in circulation around the united states." taken from some 2012 website. You guys are just fucked straight up

Prohibited weapon in Canada.

>.30-30 is for men anyways

>>735356735
Shut the fuck up, shill. You're a plague

Why use a rifle and risk killing your family and neighbors when you could just use buckshot to blow away an intruder

>>735356826
even so damn near 2/3 of our gun deaths are suicides. the next highest number is justifiable homicides.
>>735356920
>they disagree with me they're a shill
ok then. Fuck off shill.

>>735356735
i never said i thought guns should be outright banned. Just restrict the laws to make them harder to obtain. Specifically automatic weapons/assault rifles

>>735354949

Iceland..

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>>735350415
>own an AR-15

Cause I like nice things.

>>735356494
An actual assault rifle cost 30,000 us dollars here in America and you have to live in a state that will let get an nfa. Also the rifle has to be made before may 19 1986 and you must register it. So no...I don't think you know how our gun laws work here and no there are not easy to optain like you claim.

Why are we Americans so paranoid about the government taking over or the US being invaded by another foreign power, or even being murdered. The government would collapse itself if it even tried any kind of armed assault against the American people. I hear bullshit like "There wouldn't be the 1st without the 2nd" Hell yeah there would. Do you know how much shit and unrest the government would put the country through if it even tried even when we factor out American arms. Also unless you live in a complete shithole odds are you don't need a gun in the US.

>>735356947
My neighbors are Mexicans. Win win

>>735357054
You know absolutely nothing about how difficult it is to get an automatic weapon or an assault rifle in the US, but you commented anyway.

>>735356947
Why not have both?

>>735357108
yeah im starting too see that. Idek why i commented.

>>735350970

Niggers.

>>735351143
Yeah, cause we all know no guns = less crime right? That's worked well for every region that's successfully passed laws that prohibits guns

>>735357054
Our gun law don't allow for automatic weapons and we still have issues where they get into the country. I think the issue is corruption within the country. A lack of enforcement. I look at these countries with HUGE amounts of guns per person and with little to no shootings and It is hard to believe that the style of gun you carry makes a major difference.

>>735357242
You also have to wait a year for ATF approval

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What the fuck make you think I don't?

>>735357061
good point they are one of the countries with the highest amount of guns per person.

>>735357214
YEP

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>>735350415

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>>735350415

Much more partial to an AR45 anyway, less chance of shooting through walls, more dakka sound.

>>735357502
what is that? your dildo? looks small.

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>>735357502
>poorfag setup

>>735350905
Where do you live? Netherlands here, we can own semi-auto guns after obtaining a license (which takes you a year at a gunrange). Full-auto modes are a no-go eversince some retard shot up a shopping mall (if interested, wikipedia Tristan vd Vlis).

>>735357108

Yeah, but that's legally obtaining one. I can go to any corner market and pay Jamal in bitcoins to get a beltfelt childdozer. CNN told me so.

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>>735357596
>less chance of shooting through walls

Actually not.

>>735357441
idk i feel like you can kill alot more people with a 20 round automatic gun than a 5 round bolt action rifle

>>735357731
Addition: after 1 year we can own small caliber firearms. I just enrolled at our local gunrange, any tips on what firearm to get after a year?

>>735357237
I actually do own both I just wouldn't use the rifle if a person broke into my house. I would use my shotgun so I wouldn't be wall banging random people

>>735357862
in certain situations obviously i.e school shootings

>>735357837
Nice bait

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>>735357654
yeah, money don't come easy man

you guys should make it mandatory for children to carry a gun would be far less school massacres

>>735357848

Gonna go out on a limb and say that a .45, which has a significantly larger diameter, and a significant lower muzzle velocity is gonna penetrate less. Unless you believe fudd lore.

I live in Canada, where people who are invading your home can sue you for breaking their legs with a bat. You can also be charged with murder for defending your home. I want to move to Texas.

>>735357862
You have never been in the military. it shows. You are not going to hit much with an ar on full auto. good luck. Id seek cover if I saw someone with a bolt action rifle. I might point and laugh If i saw you with a full auto rifle.

Almost impossible to get here in leaf territory

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i do

>>735358163
This. Has other anon ever shot or held a rifle?

>>735358163
idk your kids get murdered ours dont im over it. You guys clearly have it all figured out. Im just gonna take a page out of the US book , ignore every other country and stick to myself. fuck my ass

actual question here: have any amerifucks lost a relative/friend to someone with a gun? when/where/how and how did it make you feel. Genuinely curious. And no military does not count.

>>735358163
You would laugh at a man spraying at you with a rifle?

>>735357131
Probably because our country was founded on hatred of the government. It's just been the liberal shills over the past 100 years that have taken over learning institutions and taught every child from the age of 3 that "Mmm guns are bad mmkay?" and "Mmm, govment good mmmkay" and it's the best idea of the world to take islamic cock up the ass so they can change our fundamental values into their own eastern shit holes.

>>735358543
Some niggers killed someone I knew over a joint

>>735358163
the military hasn't even used full auto as a doctrine in infantry rifles since Vietnam. even tho M4s have the ability to be operated in full auto no one does that.

>>735358425
right shut your mouth about something you dont understand. and yes i will fuck your ass. assume the position!

>>735358163
so if i walk up to a group of 30-40 people 5 metres away from me and start spraying il miss everyone?

>>735350415

I live in a shitty country in Europe. I can't get my hands on an AR but I have something else even though I shouldn't have...

>>735350415
bc I own shotguns for home defense

>>735358749
just ban the automatics/assault rifles dumbass.

>>735358656
everyone gets trained to use full auto. its considered to be a waste of ammo because people cant hit shit.

>>735354516
correlation =/= causation
please do not spread disinformation

i for one am all for a world war because fuck people. Just my 2 cents

>>735358116

But that is wrong. .223 at a higher velocity and lighter weight will fragment into small shrapnel immediately after going through drywall. A 45 slug will go straight through intact. A .45 is much more lethal at close quarters through walls.

It's a fact. Don't believe me? Watch all the tests on youtube or elsewhere.

>>735350970
niggers and muslims

>>735350415
I own two ARs /k/omrade

>>735358750
buddy ill be impressed if you even know how to load the damn rifle. youll probably get knocked on your ass miss everyone but then file a lawsuit against the gun maker for a gun that hurt your weak hands.

>>735358844
this was semi-sarcasm btw

>>735350415
I want to kill everyone and myself. I would do it too

>>735358543
My old mechanic went insane and was gunned down on the side of the road. His bitch of an ex took him for everything he was worth. Poor guy.

I've also been shot at while hunting before. Idiots across the ravine didn't like that I was positioned there and fired a few warning shots in my direction. Just called out the DNR and got 'em arrested. Always fun to have a slug land 5 feet away from you.

>>735359004
this makes me want to go on a massacre. Guys i think i just cracked the code. Its cunts like this ^ that ruin your country

>>735358844
your an idiot. whats is an assult rifle? also what is the last time an automatic weapon was used in a crime in the US? you are a waste of server space. please burn your computer and kys.

>>735358656
Full auto is used for supression and that's about it. Not even room breaching these days. If you've got a tight area that is confirmed to have only hostiles in it, you'll just toss in a frag.

>>735359004
and its idiots like yourself that provoke "weak handed people" into killing your children. What you have in physicality you lack in mentality.

>>735359082
Because people voice their opinions it makes you want to break the law and kill people because you cannot form a cogent response? Pathetic.

>>735359057
You're so fucking powerless. Im glad the world is horrible to you.

>>735359191
So the TRUTH comes out. ANON is a fucking monster and wants to make up shit as to why shit happens. If you are so easily provoked why dont you just stay away from the internet?

>>735354672
Wow, first time i see a yank that is smart enough to name f.i.v.e. other countries, wow

>>735359211
.... so I answer the question about someone I know being shot, and how I've been shot at before, and I'm powerless for it? Where the hell did that come from mate? Just answered the fucking question.

>>735359117
didn't the orlando mass shooter from last year who killed 50+ people have an assualt rifle? also you missed my second comment saying /sarcasm dumbass

>>735359298
your actually retarded

>>735359208
no its narcissistic un empathetic persons like yourself that make me want to kill your children. Sozboutit

>>735359384
Oh good cover. You are mentally taxed and can't formulate a good response thus jk its all sarcasm, gg. Buddy the definition of what an assult rifle is changes every few years, its cosmetics. to answer your question no it was not because the definition currently includes a second pistol grip at the front.

>>735359117
>your an idiot
>you're

And this comes from a Dutch guy.

>>735359384
He had a semi-automatic rifle. Assault rifles don't exist. Bastard was in a crowded gay bar that was probably packed wall to wall. Just hip fire and you'll hit someone.

>>735359353
Not sure why the faggot called you powerless lol

>>735359447
>your actually retarded
>you're

This also comes from a Dutch guy.

>>735359447
You're mentally deficient in ways no one will ever be able to explain.

>>735359545
okay so 1: i said sarcasm before your response so literally suck your own dick on that one and

2:
>also what is the last time an automatic weapon was used in a crime in the US?
???????

This is why peanuts like yourself should stay off the internet and go back to Afghanistan or where ver your service is milifag

>>735359540
Not the guy you're replying to but... because you disagree with someone you want to kill his children? You have some demons. Get help.

>>735359567
Fuck you. This comes from a German guy.

>>735359659
Science disagrees

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>>735357884
so what country faggot?

>>735350415
I'm happy with the size of my penis.

>>735359653
No one gives a fuck about where you are from kill yourself

>>735359722
i don't actually want to kill his children. Its just an empty threat. More trying to explain why people do certain things y'know?

>>735359725
No wonder your English is terrible. You guys dub EVERYTHING. Whenever I click past the german networks on TV, I laugh. It's pathetic and cringy tbh.

>>735358221
Nice budget queer shit and color filled selections. What a fucking poor fag

>>735359810
and no i don't agree with killing children fuck me

>>735359740
So science has mapped out how dumb you really are? That's great news!

>>735350415
Because I'm not a faggot who needs to carry a gun around. Learn to handle things with your fists pussy,

>>735359767
If you would've read my other post (which I quoted) you could've discovered the answer yourself, faggot. The Netherlands.

>>735359681
Actually wasn't the last real time an automatic weapon was used was during that bank heist with the shit ton of body armor? Everything else I can remember from recent history has been semi-automatic. Sure an AR-15 looks scary and people call 'em assault rifles and thus assume they're automatic, but they aren't.

>>735359810
i just say things to get people thinking. Some (certain) people need to take a different perspective to break their own (possibly) self harming mind sets

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>>735359767
I am in my mid 20's, I don't really need a gun, there is too much pussy ambushing me.

Maybe 35 and maybe, that is why I pay taxes for law enforcement and military I don't need an aresenal, and stabbing someone is more honorable. Trumpfaghere

>>735359830
You are not wrong. Oh but fuck you!

>>735359864
i can see you didn't like me calling you retarded so il apologise (sorta not really xDDDDD) for that

>>735359807
Is that how you talk to people in real life? No wonder you are so angry, probably no friends etc.

>>735359899
The guy you responded to said the Netherlands, unless you are talking to yourself?

>>735359987
incoming response about how im autistic for using xd (XDDDDDDDDD)

>>735359810
The only thing you showed is that when you can't explain things properly you will become mental unstable because people don't agree with you and then you will want to hurt people because you are dumb. Instead just shut your mouth. You tell people that you are crazy unless they agree with you then wonder why people are worried about getting attacked.

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>>735360053
stop while you're ahead faggot

>>735360016
I quoted myself and said "Addition".

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>>735360016
answer the question slave !

>>735359208
if you genuinely are confident in your thoughts/response why add the extra put down at the end (pathetic). If you really are a man and want to be a man , don't put other people down, regardless of who/what they are. You know thats not the right way. And if you dissagree:

>>735359540

This is what you get. Your welcome fuckface.

>>735360006
How can you tell from one post on /b/

>>735360174
You are a fucking faggot wasting time on a bs site, good job.

>>735360202
disagree*

>>735360162
cool pic lol

>>735360162
>ahead
>head
>your dad
>my
>head

I gave your dad head last night

king of autism xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Because Canada.

>>735360330
holy sweet mary mother of god

>>735360202
Don't give me non of that "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy bullshit. I'll put people down if I please. I will also consider myself to be man if I want! ATM I identify myself as an attack helicopter so shut your mouth about this really are a man shit.

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>>735360330
Way to ruin the thread nigger lover.

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>>735360330
christ

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>>735350415

>>735359948

>>735360374
no real men browse /b/ true story

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>>735360553
no, real men browse /b/

or

no real men, browse /b/

>>735360073
man did you take psych 101 because your profiling of me was on point!!!111!!! if you disagree with me i will literally suck your dads dick faggot

>>735357596
American walls, you mean.

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>>735350415

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>>735350415
cause i feel much more comfortable with muh muzzleloaders

>>735360621
idk, which are you

>>735360696
that is a weird looking dildo

>>735351143
c u c k

>>735350415
Because I have a nugget, desu~

>>735360714
Thanks

>>735360643
you can suck my dads dick all you want. That is between you and my Father.

>>735354516
Actually, you're not required to own a gun in Switzerland, that's misinformation.

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>>735350415

As a muslim i prefer planes

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>>735360709
Ya got me there.

Well I like the news like real men do, so I am here daily. /pol/ is kinda gay

>>735350415
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense,
Don't have violent niggers here.

>and to protect your family
I live alone.


>home
What's there to defend? Also, the police station is literally 500 meters down the street.

>and country?
That's what the military is for.

>>735360764
the only thing between me and your father is that big ol belt buckle amirite boys HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

>>735360798
everyone knows the twin towers never existed. You could only see them in movies and comics.

>>735360798
And as an American i prefer your resources and millions dead

>>735360890
Have at it buddy. Enjoy!

a great man once said "THE INTERNET IS A FOOKED PLACE YEH?"

truer words have never been spoken. 1 in chat 4 megalulz

Meditate and breathe.

But AR-15's aren't that good for snipi-

>>735360978
wait your dads actually gay? i'm like the internet ghandi tonight holy moly

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0U0KBiocixB

>>735361019
KE-

>>735354344
this

>>735360991
1

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>>735360927

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>>735360927

Kek

>>735360522
dubs of truth

>>735360978
i don't actually want to kill your kids btw broski. Was just triggering you. Bit over the line with the whole children thing. My bad

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>>735361171
PUSSY

>>735361046
I'm glad someone figured it ou-

>>735361098
Right, but he did it with Sam, so 'one' did not simply walk into Mordor; two did.

>>735360927
want it so bad, move there

betcha won't pussy

>>735361171
All you did was waste our time. This is /b/ if someone is not threatening to kill you then the server must be down.

>>735361171
just from your posts, you are genuinely a bad person. i pity you.

>>735361171
Also my kids could probably kill you. Unlike you they know how to to use firearms.

>>735361425
first actual response here. I somewhat agree. And thanks.

>>735361268
newfa-

>>735361397
yeah sorry for forcing you to respond how very rude of me

>>735356826
>taken from some 2012 website
fuck off

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>>735361378
We got there to kill in masses for business as a country, fuck living there you liberal lunatic!

>>735361495
ouch

>>735350415
Because I own a few cases of gernades for self defense and for hunting small game.

>>735361538
Damn right. I will accept your apology only if you uninstall your OS.

>>735361569
Dude watch out for his edge, he got you a little!

>>735361562
was more inferring that theres probably alot more now.......

>>735361587
what? where did you get them? I love fishing with explosives!

>>735361587
My friend stole a pineapple grenade from a motorcycle at a bar once lol sold it to wannabe gangsters living with their moms...

>>735352238
Nobody ever sees shit coming until it's too late.

The reality is that by the time you decided you needed a gun, it'd be too late to go get one.

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>>735361688
checked my self and my bad it was not pineapple I remember the pic now, it was tactical modern round grenade.

>>735350415
Because I have real assault rifles among other guns. I don't have them for the idiot reasons people say they have them. I have them for WHEN a police state arises to put us under their thumb, the real reason for the 2nd Amendment.

>>735361712
before or after I shoot the pistol shooter in the face?

>>735361829
*stab

if your head gets chopped off do you still remain conscious for a few seconds hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>735361885
no

>>735360355
Wasn't Canada then man. I hate this image. People don't understand history.

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>>735361826
lol you would not survive right now without the feds and government, well unless you want to live like a rat in the mountains?

>>735361920
how do you know? im just 420WEEDX@ smoked up and feeling very philosophical jafeel x

>>735361999
i*

>>735361920
don't think of your body, think of what you would be thinking in your head exactly after it happens, I am sure you are not instadead. Alot of vids on this since you are a pussy

>>735362038
what if your head got chopped off but your arteries from your heart to brain where still connected could you just move your head around 180 degrees and look at your back?

>>735361653
>what? where did you get them? I love fishing with explosives!
You can just go to the front gate of any US domestic military base and ask to buy some of their extras. If you are white and American, they give you a good price. But if you are something lesser, they might arrest you.

>>735362149
were*

>>735362149
Not original guy you responded to who brought this wied shit up but fuck you pussy scared niggers, decapitaed people still look around and shit and it is well documented, go cut off a crocodiles head and put your hand around its mouth or around it, it will watch you, pussy.

Now you are just changing the subject, yeah turn my head around, kick it down a hallway I bet i will see it for a minute or 2 before I run out of oxygen in my severed head.

>>735361653
I learned the hard way though, if you got a good retriever dog, tie him up real good before tossing some grenades.

>>735362282
uwot

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>>735350415
Because i'm a poor fag that can only afford a mosin. Having this shit gun might get me killed one day lol.

>>735350970
Niggers.

Because i'm not allowed AR model guns in my country so i own a pistol for home defense.

>>735359540
>"Everyone must pay attention to what they say around me because I'm easily offended. If they don't, I imagine myself killing their children."
And you call others narcissistic

>>735362601
Sorry to hear that. If it is cuck semi, you should get whatever you want.

>>735362731
your hurting my feelings stop

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>>735354556
It's funny cuz Hi Points actually work and work well. r8 mine pl0x

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>>735354691
I actually do like this one here

>>735362802
Ok. Just close the thread and lurk moar in the future.

>>735357654
Faggot

>>735361568

you came and achieved nothing
all you've gotten is massive debts and dead american soldiers

its nice to see you cunts destroying yourselves

>>735362871
looks very gun-y. 3/10

>>735363077
>doesn't notice the homeboy sights

U fail @.life

>>735350415
it's illegal to own one

>>735363116
-oshit. 6/10

>>735363199
Heh ¦¬]

Dubbys checked bruv

>>735350415
don't know where any of you live but maybe if you feel you need a gun for protection maybe you should move

>>735363122
You are obviously not a US citizen. Illegal don't mean a thing in gun ownership here. That just makes it cost more.

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>>735350415
Because I have one of these

>>735363569
kys

>>735363639
hey whatever, just don't kill me you big strong rugged individual you

>>735363719
we should abandon our country/traditions/way of life because we need a gun for self defense? what happens when that threat moves to the country we choose to move to

>>735360355
Britain doesn't count you stupid nigger

>>735358116
It's all about sectional density, my lad.

>>735359948
I'm twenty-four and I've already owned probably close to twenty different firearms. Currently sitting at eleven in my possession.

>>735363784
Then we shoot them, you dumb nigger.

Europe is lost. America is the last bastion of White Traditionalism.

>>735363588
You're fuckin retarded.

The only guns I can own in my country are none except for hunting or sports (being registered as competitor).

>>735350415
Because I am poor because of my jobs shitty work-life balance.

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>>735350415
Because I own a Mossberg 590A1 Magpul. A far better choice for Homedefence.

>>735350415
Because an AR-15 is inefficient for my home protection needs.

>>735357502
>spends money on shit tier rifle
>won't spend money on base board

>>735350415
because i own a large caibre dog and a remington 870 to protect my home and family