Could I ask you fags a serious question? >Is the earth flat?

>>735345674
No

>>735345674
>Could I ask you fags a serious question?

No. You're a stupid shitposting faggot.

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Yes

>>735345674
Except you can prove it.

Timezones are a thing.

Also, the original method for determining the size of the earth used the angle of a shadow at two points several miles apart, at the same time.

Also, boats/planes ship shit all over the world, and they go in both directions without falling off.

Also, you are retard and I can't believe I'm replying wtf

>>735345742

Can you prove wrong, either way?

>>735345674
FUCK!!! I hate fucking flat Earthers.

>>735345966

So those two distinct land masses at the north/south pole are somehow just one blob in this model.

OP you simply have no concept of what a credible source is.

I mean why listen to scientists who have spent their entire life studying a subject, have their names on peer review publications and stake their reputation on their research when you can listen to some online shit poster talk out of their ass.

You are truly a dumb fuck for believing everything you read online. You are for sure under the age of 25 and have not really been in the real world.

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>>735345674
Don't get indoctrinated by their crap, you idiot

Not related, but

>Whaaddabout the conspiracy of the "fake moonlanding"
What the Fucc do i know, but I'm convinced

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>>735346245
That's what I'm saying, I'm a fucking moron and was wondering what 4chin thinks bout this.

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>>735346274
Alex Jones said something about this. He stated we didn't fake the moon landing but had to reshoot it because all of the film was fucked by radiation or something like that.

>Is the Earth flat?
I fucked your mom.

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>>735345674
Not only is it flat, I have concrete photographic evidence of its flatness and the conspiracy!

Notice
>Earth clearly flat
>Jew astronaut killing normie astronaut to cover up the crime

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>>735346608
So they had the technology to protect astronauts from deadly radiation, but not camera film? Bullshit. We went to the moon and the photos are authentic.

The planet would need to be a sphere for gravity to work. Also OP is a faggot

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>>735346340

>"Flat-Earth is flat-out WRONG"

LOL

>>735345674
The Earth isn't flat. If you need evidence, look into the creation of monopole magnets (something that is generally confided an impossibility due to the Earths construction) and how gravity is generally believed to work (and observations on a smaller scale)

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>>735346797
>factual and mathematical evidence
>"hurr but look at this meaningless quote"

>>735345674
Let me guess.. God loves us all except the other 3b people. And earth is 6000 years old. And dinosaurs fossils and the stars are just something he put there for us to look at.

Stop being a retard.

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>>735346597

>>735345674
It was satire. All of the flat earth shit was satire. Unfortunately some group of retards started spreading this info around like it was true and it went off like a brush fire in California. Its not true.

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>>735346727

>seems legit

Why don't you dig a really deep hole and see where you come out OP?

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>>735345674

>some shit makes no sense even when it comes to a round earth model

Please specify.

>>735345674
No, it does not appear that you can ask us a serious question, as evinced by your obvious trolling, which, by the way, was old long ago.

>>735345674
Time zones, just take a flight from where you are to the other side of the earth. Like Nebraska to Vietnam.

>>735346963
Was just stating how corny n cheesy that line was.

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>>735347008
>but muh flag
Yes, please tell me more about how the laws of geometry and physics change based off of what the UN puts on their fucking FLAG.

You have fucking downs syndrome.

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>>735347036
That's what I'm saying, all of a sudden Im seeing more n more of this shit.

Seems they nit-pick through the evidence and choose shit that makes just enough sense to get you thinking

>>735347008
Looks like the flat earth map you stoopid fuck!

Where's your hard evidence that it's round? I have no idea how to personally prove it either way.

Earth's flat.....

Check this out

https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

>>735347554

Why the fuck can't nasa show a real picture of earth from space?
It's been admitted that all pics of Earth are cgi. Why can't they just show us a true picture?

>>735347967
Because they're hiding part of the earth from us. It's a lot bigger than what we've all been told

>>735346059
There exists night and day. Gravity pulls everything toward its centers. We can observe other planets are round.

>>735345674
there's a shit ton of evidence to show the earth is round, but the most important one i would say is photographs.
the only hard "evidence" the flatfags have is to say those photos are fake. so if you wanna believe its a conspiracy go ahead, whatever. but the only other shit they have are lame ass hypotheses that require the laws of physics (the same laws that we follow to put satellites into orbit, fly planes, transmit information via EM waves, etc) have to be changed to suit their claims.
i mean, if they really had the gumption to show their case is true, they could all pool their money together and take a boat ride out to that ring of ice that supposedly sits around the "egde" but id wager the fags would take photos of whats really there and the fags that didnt go would cry bullshit and say the expedition team fell victim to the conspiracy

Look up "Is the Earth Flat?" by VSauce

Also ships disappear bottom first

>>735347732
You're completely ignoring
>>735346245
>>735346291
>>735346340
>>735346425
>>735346545
>>735346597

And then think you're being clever with your shitpost.

Address the proofs, troll.

>>735345674
Career pilot here.
How the fuck do you think we fly from Tokyo to JFK? Do you really think there's an airplane that carries enough fuel to fly pass the whole fucking planet? Have you never seen Northern light in north pole on flight ya poor fag?

>>735348737
Its flat buddy.

>>735347967
>It's been admitted that all pics of Earth are cgi.
No. It's been said by flat-Earthers who can't explain the gigantic volume of imagery. So they say it's not real, and end of problem.

Here's the deal: there are three types of Flat Earthers who regularly post to 4Chan: assholes who troll for spite, asshole intellectuals who troll to test your knowledge and debate skills, and literal Bible interpreters (LBIs). They all have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong." This nefariously places the onus on you to spend your precious life's time to provide information already available that they haven't and won't consider. By disavowing any science or proofs put forward and continuing to make shit up, they "win" by eroding your patience. It is simply impossible to keep up with having to explain away the barrage of violations on the most basic principles of geometry, math, science, and logic.

They aren't interested in critical thinking, refuse to put in the requisite effort to do the science, are blind to 3D visualization, and regularly refuse to respond when they can't fabricate anything that would pass even their own red-faced test. LBIs concentrate on believing what their leaders tell them while ironically calling you a "sheeple," and will not allow any sense to mar their fractured perception of the universe. They believe they are right, and they want you to become as stupid as they. The trolls will simply post sillier arguments and regularly resort to insults and taunts to keep you posting.

In any case, there is simply no arguing. Like trying to paint over mud, you just end up with a dirty brush.

In this thrtead, it seems we have simple trolls.

>>735348737
Shenanigans. Shit's flat bro

>this is a real thing
>people here unironically believe this and start arguing it

Is there a word for when the massive availability of knowledge and learning in a culture, somehow results in people becoming dumber rather than smarter?

>>735348971
Show me a picture of how it's round. Look around you - horizon is flat and we're limited by our eyesight. Shit's flat bro

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In case you think this type of thread is new and clever...

>>735348497
That's what I'm saying. Supposedly there are no flights over Antarctica, or because of some treaty no one is allowed to even explore the south pole without a guided tour.

>>735349087
Here... have a bunch, troll.
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/index.html

>>735349101
Really? What treaty?
People aren't allowed?
Add “Glamping in Antarctica” to Your Travel Bucket List - $72,000
http://thepointsguy.com/2016/09/glamping-in-antarctica-travel-bucket-list/

Last Week Tonight, Stay Away! Start at 30 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH573B1bkHI

>>735348704
Hey fuck face I've read evidence from both sides. Not trolling I just wanted 4chans take on it, maybe better evidence or how many of you fags actually believe this.
I didn't say I believe that it's flat

>>735349200
Lots of CGI there homes.......

Trying to cover up the big lie where the other unseen part of Earth is loaded with gold and diamonds

>>735345674
People "blindly follow" it because it's been an established truth for so long that it's simply considered common knowledge, much like how it's known liquid water is wet and fire burns you. The fact of the matter is there has been overwhelming evidence spanning centuries that prove flat earth to be false. At no point in time has flat earth ever substantially been backed other than "you're all sheeple!" Or "muh bible says so!" Conversely there have been many factors that prove earth to be to some degree or another spherical. This includes gravity, calculating placing a shot in sniper school, distance calculation, and the movement and capabilities of the sun.

Yup earth is as flat as your ass

>>735349087
you can use math and physics to show that the earth doesn't spin fast enough for a disk shape to have been formed or ever form

>>735349306
>>735349098
B1, I1, N1, N2, G2
And worst of all, you ask for a picture, then say it's CGI. Gee, didn't see that coming. Troll.

>>735349464
Show me math and physics that makes things that spin turn into round spheres....

Shit's flat bro

>>735345674
ships have sailed and planes have flown around the world, if it was flat they would see the edge of the earth at some point.

>>735349285
>Not trolling I just wanted 4chans take on it,

No you didn't, you little liar.

>>735347732
>Where's your hard evidence that it's round?

You were presented with 6 proofs, and you come back with nothing. You want proof? like what? You don't want pictures, you don't want diagrams, don't want math...

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>>735349634

>>735348971

Well said.

/thread

>>735348840

I will try to find the link, but the man who produces every nasa pic of earth admitted that it's all cgi and had an explanation for why

>>735349554
>Show me math and physics that makes things that spin turn into round spheres...
spin doesn't make things into spheres. gravity does that.

>>735349843
>the man who produces every nasa pic of earth
Right there should be your sign that someone's having some fun at your expense. Think about that.

>>735349701 I think you missed the cringe thread

>>735349937
Are you aware that gravity is the exception to everything, and that there's many many exceptions to gravity?
How are you happy with that fact?

>>735349937
Uh huh......by that logic then everything on the Earth should be round. Buildings, people, animals, etc.

Last I checked I'm not round, my dogs aren't round, my house isn't round

>>735350089
>How are you happy with that fact?
It's not a fact. It's an absurd statement you just made up.

>>735345674
You know, I remember I used to be stupid like you. Then I had my 4th birthday.

>>735350072
Ha ha ha

>>735348737

So the earth has curvature of approximately 8" per mile, do you have to dip the nose of the plane down every so often?
I don't know shit about flying and this just came to me

>>735349101
they wouldnt even have to get out of the boat, just sailing around the world along the rim of ice and recording their position would be sufficient

>>735350276
This is a good observation. Why do planes have to go up to take off? Should't they just go straight on the runway and they will end up in the air? They don't......they pull up. Shit's flat

>>735345674
i really think it could be, NASA gets 50 mil a dad to show us CGI. if the would is flat then i think it was back when they first went to Antarctica when they found out it was true. at that point they either had to re write the history books and and adjust pretty much everything we do in life to account for it OR just lie about it.

>>735350276
This has been a flat earth argument for years. The plane does indeed adjust but it moves so subtly that you can't notice it.

>>735349937
>spin doesn't make things into spheres. gravity does that.

To be fair, that statement is lacking some important additions. Gravity attracts objects that are free-floating, yes. And as there is a common center to the attraction, new material builds up a generally roundish shape. But the real round starts to form when the mass builds, causing internal pressure to overcome the structural integrity of the bulk material. It behaves more like a fluid, being crushed into smaller particles.

No imaged 'small' asteroids for instance are shown to be round. In fact, roundness is one of the current qualities that defines the difference between an asteroid and dwarf planet.

>>735346608
I don't care what you're saying, if it starts with "alex jones said" you're a goddamned retard.

>>735350089
what exceptions are you fucking talking about? and yeah gravity is a deciding factor in many things because it affects all matter

>>735350276
The implication of the plane continuing "straight" into space would be that the atmosphere continued on at a constant pressure. In the real world, the atmosphere gets thinner as you gain altitude. A plane in steady flight maintains an equilibrium between the angle of attack of the wing and thrust of the engines that keeps the plane within a level of atmosphere where its rarity is more or less the same, but uses occasional minor trim when local pressure and density varies slightly.

>>735350370
No, it's not a good observation. Many reasons: If airplanes didn't climb, they'd hit things at the ends of the runways, like trees, buildings, and mountains. If they all flew at eh same altitude, there'd be common near-hits and actual collisions. The atmosphere is thinner higher up, so the plane needs to get there to be fuel efficient. The Earth is so big that it *appears* flat from anywhere low enough to be breathable, so the pilot has to climb to meet all the above conditions.

>>735349843
they aren't going to listen. they all have their heads up NASA's ass.

Yes it is flat, don't listen to these faggots whom say it isn't

>>735351185
Oh, right - like you've produced any proof that can be addressed singly and/or wholly by a flat Earth. Instead, you rely on parroting really ignorant, stupid canned statements that are easily disproved, and hope that cynical and sarcastic remarks will have some quashing effect.

1. Tell everyone earth is flat.
2. ....?
3. Profit!

>what is point 2 ?

>>735350188
>Uh huh......by that logic then everything on the Earth should be round. Buildings, people, animals, etc.
>Last I checked I'm not round, my dogs aren't round, my house isn't round
wow, ok... everything has gravity but gravity is a relatively weak force so it takes extraordinarily massive objects to have a gravitational field powerful enough to pull themselves into spheres. It takes things moon sized or bigger(heavier) to pull themselves into a ball shape. Anything smaller(lighter) and their own internal structure is strong enough to withstand it's own gravity. There's a bit more to it than that, but that's the basics of it.

>>735350089
>How are you happy with that fact?
I'm neither happy or unhappy with it. it's a fact of nature. how I feel about it is irrelevant.

>>735351791
>gravity is a relatively weak
>holds all the worlds oceans to the earth

>>735351350
who*
whom is used as the object you already have "it" as the object

>>735349953

http://www.theangryufologist.us/proof-positive-nasa-uses-photoshop-doctor-space-images/

>Dat proof doh

>>735350676
>To be fair, that statement is lacking some important additions.
I completely agree. However, with the demonstrated intelligence of half the posters in this thread, I think it's a good idea to start off as simple as possible.

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>>735345674
Science isnt following blindly and believing what u r told. Thats the beauty. You can see for yourself. You can do your own experiments and prove it to yourself.
But people whose think earth is flat are too stupid to science

>>735350370
because the path the path to any destination isn't a perfectly straight line? they would crash into shit

>>735347554

It started out as a troll.

>>735351944
That's not a credible source.

>>735350370
the curvature of the earth is 8 inches per mile, meaning the plane would have to go an entire mile in a straight line to be 8 inches off the ground, how much shit do you think it would crash into in one mile? are your airlines in the middle of fucking nowhere on a perfectly flat surface for miles?

>>735351944
Firstoff... UFO. *sigh(... I'm not even going there.
Next, *the* image he's showing as an example is a particular image that was *advertised* as being a composite (not altered: pieced together) image for illustrative purposes. So he picked something known to edited, then sounds the "FAKE!" alarm. You are continuing his idiocy by projecting that one particular example to *all* imagery. That's *this close* to being just a s stupid. He's an attention whore, pure and simple. And you're a mark.

>>735351890
yep, it takes 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilogram Earth to do that. Gravity is extremely weak compared to magnetism, but, magnets only work of short distances and on certain metals. Where gravity works over infinite distances and pulls on everything.

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>>735352303

>" are your airlines in the middle of fucking nowhere on a perfectly flat surface for miles?"

Uhh, duh, the earth is flat! That's what the thread is about

>>735346969
Prove to me that God loves the other 3B people. You can't.

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>>735345674
please stop. if you actually fall for that shit then you're probably mentally retarded.

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Had to say it

>>735351890
relatively weak, but compare the mass of the entire earth minus the oceans and the mass of all the oceans. All the water makes up 0.023% of the total mass of the earth, so the earth is massive enough to hold onto the water with the force of gravity it exerts

>>735345674
Most flat earthers are from the USA. This tells me our educational system is a fucking joke now. Knowing the Earth is a globe has nothing to do with being brainwashed, it's about know why a flat earth model simply does not work. We're fucked if a person can graduate highschool and think the earth is flat.

>>735352548
what are hills and mountains

If earth has a dome over earth how come when I point my powerful laser pointer at the sky it doesnt reflect light?

>>735352837
>Most flat earthers are from the USA.
[Citation needed]

>>735352837
all schools teach the earth is round, stupid people choosing to stay stupid isn't a reflection of the educational system

>>735348737
Career pilot that can't spell past. Sure buddy.

Guys guys guys.... The earth is actually an isosceles triangle during the day but changes into a quadrilateral piece of extraterrestrial kitten shit. Wake up fags

>>735353102
fucking Einstein made spelling mistakes at least once in his life, discrediting someone based on a single wrong letter is retarded

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>>735352936

Just YT 5 different flat earthers. look in background, Muh pride muh flag.

Plus even your rappers believe

>>735353363
That's not proof anon, you need to provide hard numbers that indicate most of the world's flat earth believing population resides within the U.S. Until you do that, all that you've demonstrated was your bias against Americans.

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I don't understand why people still reply to these threads.

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Earth is flat, women are funny-get over it!

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>believing the earth is flat
>not believing the earth is an inverted sphere

>>735353288
Not discrediting, just giving him shit for the mistake. Calm down.

>>735351944
What the fuck kind of tin foil hat shit is this?

>>735353614
>That's not proof anon, you need to provide hard numbers that indicate most of the world's flat earth believing population resides within the U.S. Until you do that, all that you've demonstrated was your bias against Americans.
but I am American. we elected Trump. We have an alarming number of idiots here.

Granted, it's mostly anecdotal, but the majority of flat earther youtube videos I've seen are from Americans. Either way, there are a lot of these idiots in the US and that's just sad.

>>735345674

>hey OP, whats with all these round-earth-shills?
Fuckers come out hard
>hey, you and everyone like you are just stupid for questioning anything! Do what I do and blindly follow, obey.
Fucking round-earth-shills make me sick

>>735354118
You being an American has no relevance to bias. Furthermore your mentioning of the current U.S. president only deepens your bias and you've yet to provide any data to substantiate yourself other than "youtube videos I've seen."

>>735354368
>he thinks we berate for people questioning
Try again?

The irony is that in purely 2 dimensional terms, the Earth is indeed flat to anyone who is restricted into thinking in that way. But in the actual 3 dimensional universe, there's no around the fact that the Earth is really a globe.

>>735354003

Somebody show me one picture of the supposedly "round" earth that is not cgi_photoshopped bullshit?

There are none! Not one Astronaut, with more than enough time to take at least a few selfies/over the shoulder shots.

>>735354781
>cgi photoshopped bullshit
Prove it.

>>735354385
>You being an American has no relevance to bias. Furthermore your mentioning of the current U.S. president only deepens your bias and you've yet to provide any data to substantiate yourself other than "youtube videos I've seen."
as I said, my evidence was anecdotal. Sure, I have a demonstrated bias against trump, but in the context of this thread, it's irrelevant to my thesis. It was a throw away comment. So I have to ask, how is the specific bias I had relevant regarding flat earthers existing at all. There's plenty of evidence they're idiots, regardless of where they are from.

>>735354467
Do they credit you per post?
How do you cash your "round-earth-shill checks"? Direct deposit I suppose, doctored up paper trail?

>>735346042
This. Please don't ever reproduce and stain the gene pool with your idiocy

>>735354781
Sure, how about you go take a picture of the Earth yourself? Oh wait, you're just an underage hipster who wants to sound intelligent but actually sounds incredibly retarded.

The government will lie about many things to the public, but you have to ask yourself why exactly would they lie about the Earth being round when it's actually flat? For what reason would they hide the Earth being flat? Nobody gains anything out of lying about what shape the Earth is. Use your brain.

Shit's flat. Airplanes shouldn't have to pull up, not everything is round, gravity is a myth. We are flat and always going up!

>>735355445
It's because of the diamonds and gold in the other side. Precious things that hold value because of "limited supply"

>>735352303
Runways are flat and go for miles

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>>735355292
That's the point of these shit posts, I believe.
Both sides round and flat can spout off all the bull they want. Nobody on here can provide hard copy evidence even in the form of a picture of what shape the earth is.

>>735355489
>We are flat and always going up!
in order for that to be true, we couldn't just be going up, we would have to be constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s to get pulled to the earth all the time. Fun fact. at a constant acceleration of 9.8 m/s, after just 1 year, we would all be going the speed of light. WEEEEEE!

>>735355912
But we do have hard evidence that the Earth is round, you aspies just deny it all. Bunch of 16 year olds trying to sound intelligent.

>>735355562
Post proof. Oh, you have none? Probably because you're a dumb ass.

>>735354947
Because you said the majority live in the USA, which is the whole point of our discussion. when I asked for proof you gave me bias which is indeed not proof, and if you now suddenly disregard your stance on the regional specifics of flat earthers to a more macroscopic scale in favor of wholly ruling all of them lack intelligence, what was the point of your statement in the first place?

>>735354995
Prove there are shills.

>>735355445

Uhh Yeah, the government would be stealing millions from tax payers for some bullshit nasa program.

Look man, I'm woke as FUCC! how bout u? U gonna wake up? Or just obey and hopefully pick up some round earth shill money like some of the posters in this thread?

>>735353614

Hard numbers lol.
Last time I checked you seemed to deny most numbers. Trump v Hillary (Muh Democracy)
Global warming.
Age of earth.
Your height and length of your penis.

If you want hard numbers try stepping up on your weight scale and swallow them burgers.

>>735356008
Maybe we are going the speed of light.....

>>735356295
What are you even talking about? You make the assumption I'm an American and put me on platforms I've yet to and will unlikely touch base on because I asked for proof on an absolute statement.

>>735356594
You just can't talk sense to those rounders......

>>735356443
>Maybe we are going the speed of light.....
ok, here's a loaded question.. can light go faster than the speed of light?

>>735356882
The speed of earth and light are the same

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>>735345674
why?
Watches at $ 0?

>>735356154
>Because you said the majority live in the USA, which is the whole point of our discussion. when I asked for proof you gave me bias which is indeed not proof, and if you now suddenly disregard your stance on the regional specifics of flat earthers to a more macroscopic scale in favor of wholly ruling all of them lack intelligence, what was the point of your statement in the first place?
Yes, but it would take too long to get into on a thread that will 404 soon. So to make you feel better, I'll say "no" and move on back to the actual points of the flat earth topic.

>>735356990
>The speed of earth and light are the same
you didn't answer my question. Can light go faster than the speed of light? yes or no.

>>735356685
I find it fascinating that you say that. You've declared my reasoning to the offending poster as "sense" and then assume he is a round earth believer and simultaneously insinuated I am a flat earther. Yet, your assumption that I am aligned with flat earth is incorrect because I know well that the earth is round. So by your reasoning, while you cannot talk sense to a round eather, a round earther can definitely talk sense. If a round earther can talk sense then it's reasonable to believe that they are making sensible statements when they argue, which means the end result of the debate is likely to favor them more.

>>735357148
How does the word "no" relate to the fact that you've completely changed to a different stance but left the previous one open-ended?

>>735357383
Ok. So you say it's round? I say it's flat. The debate can go forever, but there's no evidence to either being correct

>>735356685
>You just can't talk sense to those rounders.....
how do you define "sense"? Do you think it's sensible to base your worldview so heavily on conspiracies?

>>735357656
Conspiracy is all around homes. JFK, WMDs in Iraq, 9/11, UFOs in Area 51

Are you too much of a sheep to question things and think for yourself?

COME ON SHEEPLE DONT LISTEN TO THE PAID SHILLS! THE EARTH IS FLAT BUT TBTB DONT WANT US TO KNOW!!!

Let's face facts here.

OP won by dragging us all down to his level.
nuf said.

>>735357530
sorry, left out some words. Basically, Yes, there was a point, but it would take to long to get into on a thread that will die any time now. So, I'm going to officially so No, you win, there was no point to my post. Moving on.

>>735357600
>there's no evidence of either being correct
You're going to have to prove that, because there's plenty of evidence from nearly every source that substantiates it.

>>735347554
"Why can't NASA show us a video of the earth spinning" do you even know what orbits are? Also only like 2 are actually real, 1972 , 2002 and 2015. 1972 was shot from moon (was upside down, was edited to be right side up cause looks better) other 2 were pics from orbit stitched together

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>>735358003

>>735358090
Fair enough.

>>735358201
*that susbstantiates it to be round

>>735357840
>JFK, WMDs in Iraq, 9/11, UFOs in Area 51
Until these things have been demonstrated as fact, they can't be used as evidence. Otherwise, ALL conspiracies become fair game, not just the ones you believe in. Do you really want to play that game?

>>735358201
That's what they tell you. All sources that substantiate are in on the lie. NASA being the source most look to. Government run and we all know governments lie

>>735358394
So you're saying it's proven fact the Earth is round?

>>735358201

Neither side can present any hard evidence. You can repeat everything you have been programed to blindly follow all you want, let's see something real

>>735358455
it's called an Azimuthal equidistant projection. It's designed to give no nation or land mass any kind of visual favoritism. It's making no commentary on the actual shape of the earth. nice try though.

>>735358462
You need to prove that though, why should I believe you? Give me proper information that proves yourself right and I'll consider your stance. Otherwise, rhetoric won't convince me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg

this is a visualisation of why the earth is not flat.

I will give you a few moments to watch it, and let the information sink in before I say anything else.

>>735345674
Maybe the simplest way to convince retards like you is the horizon. If the earth was flat you could see USA from Europe, with a strong enough telescope. And if the flat earth is concave how does the water stay at the top?

>>735358654
Sure it is.

My nama Jeff

>>735358455
Yo-that right there proves all! That's the flat earth map, coincidentally on the UN flag!

What do you ROUND_EARTH_SHILLS got to say now?

>>735358820
Also the same group who adheres to the Antarctic peace treaty.

>>735358601
Prove I'm programmed. What makes you right? What shows that you are somehow the falsely accused deviant and every one of your detractors is in fact the one in the wrong? Round earth proof has been around for centuries, but all you can say to disclaim it is to call it a lie but won't back it up.

>>735358666
https://allgovernmentslie.com/lies

Fucking fact

if the Sun set on a flat earth, the entire world would go black at the same time.

>>735358975
The same way a flash light doesn't light up the entire planet.

>>735359052
you would also see every phase of the moon in a 24 hour period. However, in order to see the moon, it would have to be 100x more reflective, and 160 miles larger.

>>735345674
>it's just kinda fun to enable the idea.
no it's not, it's dangerous. if one can't believe the earth is round then what is true? Alex Jones type disinformation that shouldn't be tolerated.

>>735358561
>So you're saying it's proven fact the Earth is round?
effectively, yes. But what it really comes down to is working models. The Flat Earth model has too many unknowns, relies too much on conspiracies, and is incapable of making predictions better than the Globe Earth model. Neither can be known with 100% certainty, but the Globe earth works much better based on observations and predictions so that's the one that is accepted.

>>735358892
What relevance does this have? Explain it to me.

>>735345674
The Earth is skull-shaped because it is formed from the skull of Ymir the Frost Giant who was slain by the brothers Odin, Vili and Ve.

>>735359145
it's just as dangerous as proposing anarcho-communism as an alternative to government.

we already lived through tribes, they didn't work; that's why we decided governments are a better option.

>>735358733
>Sure it is.
look it up. you're here on /b/ so I'm assuming you're capable.

>>735345674
It doesn't make any sense for the earth to be flat. It just doesn't.

>>735359149
I can agree with this. Round makes more sense

hey if you don't believe NASA, then tie a live-streaming digital camera to a LARGE balloon after setting up a live-stream to record what it captures, and let it go.

balloons travel to the stratosphere before they pop, it will be able to see the curvature of the Earth from up there and make you look like a jackass.

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It's turtles all the way down.

>>735359453
also, if the earth isn't a sphere then why do we have a horizon line? why can't I walk to the edge of the horizon? or is that just more magic from the wizards at Hogwarts?

>>735356008
Maybe something like .99% the speed of light but not at the speed of light. But yeah I've heard someone say the acceleration thing as being Flat Earthers answer to gravity.

One thing about relativity is that time slows the more gravity you experience. So time passes at different rates between being in an airplane and being at the bottom of the sea. This is something Flat Earther gravity doesn't account for since with their acceleration it should be the same.

>>735359453
>balloons travel to the stratosphere before they pop, it will be able to see the curvature of the Earth from up there and make you look like a jackass.
you think that would work, but flattards will look at the video, pick a few frames that show little or no curve, disregard everything else, and say it's "proof" the earth is flat. They really are that deluded.

>>735359694
you can't edit a livestream. even still though, it would record the varying degree of sunlight refracting off the surface, you can't disprove a spherical penumbra.

layman's terms: shiny ball makes shade on the other side.

>>735359129

That's why the moon is a light source and not reflecting the sun, according to flat earth model

>>735359827
Much of the moon landings were live. Didn't stop deniers.

>>735359876
if that were true then there would be no night.

light sources are light sources are light sources.

>>735359682
yeah, time dilation is a serious problem for the idea that its really just a flat earth constantly accelerating upwards. but if a person seriously thinks the earth is flat, there is no way that they have the intelligence to understand the problems of being anywhere near the speed of light.

>>735359933
yes, but most of the deniers deny the licve footage because NASA had hotels and warehouses on lease during the time of the landings.

what the deniers didn't know, is those were to house the rooms and rooms of black people doing complex math in case Buzz Aldrin and co. forgot to carry a decimal point or some shit.

>>735359827
>you can't disprove a spherical penumbra
true, but you also can't make a flat earther definitely believe they're seeing it. cause you know, NASA is a lie and all. *sarcasm*

>>735360143
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they have observed a shadow before. lol.

>>735358455
notice the grid lines, the top-down view, the degree of stretch due to perspective, and the lack of antarctica.

you are looking at a representation of a top-down view of a globe with a slight degree of curvature.

>>735345674
>can't greentext properly
>even doubts the Earth is round for a second
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>735360215
yeah, but they have poorly formed explanations for almost everything or just assert conspiracy and shut down the conversation.

>>735360430
well if everything is a conspiracy, how do we know that they aren't conspirators trying to hide the truth?

>>735349843
they're compositions. basically you take alot of pictures of a thing and stitch them together to get one big picture of a thing. The same way panoramas work, the earth is just too massive to get all in one shot alot of the time. Some of the pics you see from the moon landing are probably legit

>>735360508
that's the reason an atlas looks like a lemon peel, it's the only way to show the curvature of the earth while drawing it flat.

I couldnt be bothered to read this entire shill post. Shills claiming to be flat earthers just so they can lenin the movement. Theflatearthsociety.com was started by cia as a psyop. Nasa making 19 billion a year on cartoons filmed in zero g planes, green screens, pools. Bubbles during live space walks. Moon landing total hoax. The curve has never been observed or measured or documented anywhere on earth! Not a single real pic of the earth from space. You want real facta and recreatable experiments REAL science not shill lord degrasse throwing mics around to prove a mic is heavier than air go to ifers.123.st

>>735360498
>how do we know that they aren't conspirators trying to hide the truth?
you would have to demonstrate that. otherwise, in a rational debate, I can just disregard that as paranoia. And If you're point is to convince me, paranoid assertions aren't going to work.

>>735360734
Sts 31 aborted eva. Hubble never made it to orbit. Sofia better than hubble in everyway. Takes the same pics as hubble on the same days and times. To much coincidence.

>evolution theory
>globe theory
>dinosaurs fake
>gravity soliloquy for LAW of density and bouyancy

>>735360829
>paranoid assertions
you mean like saying the entire established doctrine of observable space is a hoax?

if the sun set on a flat earth, the entire world would go black at once. try disproving that.

>>735360829
also
>you would have to demonstrate that
you just demonstrated it. easy.

>>735361145
Well have you done any research on solar simulator sattelites?
>boeing already holds pattents...

>>735345674

Ever been to 42,000ft in an aeroplane? Can quite visibly see that it's round.

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>>735360623

>pictures shaped like lemon peels

>best proof you got for "round-beta" Planet.

Im Alpha flat earth all day, son!

>>735361271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg

watch.

>>735361145
Don't be silly, the sun gets dragged around in a loop by a heavenly chariot.

>>735361344
really? I thought it only rose if I sacrificed the hearts of villagers and slaves for the entire night until sunrise.

>>735345674

Why is there a horizon?

>>735346411

They think people who believe that the earth is flat are stupid. As you've also noted, you're a gullible moron and so you buy into a stupid idea because you some an infographic with bullshit on it.

You're either genuinely stupid or baiting.

>>735361423
wizards from Hogwarts keep the edge of the earth permanently out of your reach, you will never get there.

>>735347554
>to get you thinking

The only thought going through anyone's head who finished high school is that these people are fucking stupid.

>>735361478
the edge of the world is where Hogwarts is located, by the way.

>>735361406
The heavenly chariot has to be fueled on something. Did you think it is just divinely self-propelled or something nonsensical like that?

>>735361571
no, it's pulled by horses of fire. it's clearly depicted on the sides of ancient pots and urns.

>>735361631
that's just a conspiracy from the founders of Hogwarts.

>>735356008
Sounds better than spinning 1k miles and hour at the equator and 65k miles an hr around the sun which isnt the heliocentric model anymore. The sun is also spinning around the galactic origin so far away they cant seam to find out where or what...

But like i said flatearthsociety.com is shill. Obama, kerry, biden all mention it in speaches. They want you to go there and see how rediculous it is.

>>735361631
Try and get those horses moving without someone first sacrificing the hearts of villagers and slaves for the rest of the night somewhere, then, smartass.

>>735346608

>Alex Jones

You're a moron and you'd sincerely start to be a smarter person if you just stopped listening to bullshit.

>>735357600
All the seas are level. The horizon is level and rises to eye level no matter how high you go. The curve has never been measured or observed anywhere on earth. Lasers are proving its flat in every test being conducted currently.

>>735361802
bruh, the sun god is whipping them. that would get anything moving.

>>735361899
what test? where? when?

Go to the docks, or wharf, or beach, or some other shoreline.

If you live in the middle of your country and aren't less than an hour away from the ocean, first of all what the fuck is wrong with you inbred hillbilly fucks, and secondly go find one of those big flat plains that you always seem to live near.

Locate a nearby boat or ship headed out to sea (or truck or car headed out into the plain).

Watch it for a while.

You will soon realize that it has dipped down below the horizon.

Congratulations, you now realize what sailors from ten thousand years ago realized - that the Earth is round.

>>735346545
The royal astronomical society has observed many times over the past 500 years a lunar eclipse with the sun still showing. Globetards cant debunk that....

Some speculate a third body invisible to our visible light spectrum causes it.

>>735346425
25k miles is the globetards circumference of the equator.

>>735362141
https://stardate.org/nightsky/eclipses

>some speculate
no, they don't.

you can still see the sun because it's bigger than the moon, dumbass.

>>735351704
Jews

>>735345674
Look, the best way to debunk this theory is with science. How can you explain gravity in the flat earth model? Well, flat earthers have an explanation for that, the flat earth is flying over the space in constant acceleration of 9.8m/s^2, so with that you can explain gravity, right? Well, not exactly, if the earth is going 9.8m/s faster every single second, sometime it would end up reaching the speed of light, and that not possible, because of Eintein's special relativity. And, with this gravity model, the gravity should be the same in all the points on the earth, but it has been measured that there are some pints in the earth where the gravity is stronger. Just research it.

>>735346340
Arguing the azimuthal equidistant map when it is and always has been the OFFICIAL map of the USGS

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The best thing about people who believe in flat earth or those who don't believe in evolution is that I will never take anything they say seriously. It's a really easy way to determine who you may want to be friends with, or who you would bother to give more than a single fuck about their opinion. Talk to me about that shit and I'll nod politely and then make fun of you behind your back to all your other friends who are also making fun of you. If I see you at a bar I'll let you buy me a drink and listen to your horseshit but I'll never buy into your shit and I'll gladly take the freebies.

It's like your racist ultra conservative Christian uncle that spouts shit about the Negroes and the ISIS that's going to take over their shitty Georgia town because they're not the right color skin. Sure you have to put up with him during the family gatherings but in the end you know he's an ignorant idiot so you never have to do more than politely smile at whatever bullshit he spouts.

It really makes it much easier to filter out who may be an important person that you should listen to for life advice.

>>735346291
Terminator line isnt perfect its more like the yingyang symbol. Sunrise times prove this

>>735346245
Octans isnt even visible to the naked eye. Why would the celestials rotate around the north pole star if are axis is pointed totallu away from it after 6 months...

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>>735361435
Just stoopid, ma'am. Shits interesting as hell to me, for some reason.

>>735362502
No flateaethsociety is shill. Dont go there dont pay any attwntion to the govt run psyop. Kerry obama biden all mention that site multiple times they want you to go there and be duped. The earth is flat and stationary. Gravity does not exist it is a soliloquy for the LAW of density and bouyancy

>>735361542
Another shill, I see.

The world, the Flat world will know the truth soon enough!

#flxtearthmatters

>>735362011
Tryin to hard. Law of perspective read it memorize it. If that were true a shio traveling the same distance from left to right would also show a curve on the horizon but it never does

>>735361899

>All the seas are level. The horizon is level and rises to eye level no matter how high you go

If the curvature of the planet is 8" per mile, the horizon shouldn't follow you up like that.

>>735347967
Google Himawari-8, fgt

>>735362053

Earth being flat doesn't give you super vision you stupid fuck!

>>735363302
if you even looked at the LAW of perspective then you wouldnt say that. If we were on a ball the horizon would always be falling away from eye level. You would have to look down. In the shooped pic of toronto do you see the buildings leaning away from you? in the pic of NYC do the building look like they are leangin away Does the longest bridge in china 105 miles ever acount for a single inch of curvature NO

flat earthers are unwitting trolls for attention, they are trolling and they dont even realize it

>>735362784
Ok, let's supose that what Newton said is false, how do yo explain stars rotation? I mean, if you go out some night, and set a time lapse camera pointing at the sky, you'll see that the stars rotate clockwise if you're in the
North Hemisphere, but if you set your camera in the South Hemisphere, you'll see that stars rotate counter-clockwise. How the fuck you can explain that? Round earth model explains it, and you can prove it with just a camera and a tripod. Just get in touch with somebody located on other Hemisphere, and ask him to set the camera the same night that you do, and just wait to see the results, and after, explain me how's that possible in tflat-earth.

DO NOT TRY TO ENGAGE FLAT EARTH FAGS WITH FACTS

THEY WILL JUST SAY ITS FAKE, JUST CALL THEM FAGS AND MOVE ON, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

everyone wants proof in this thread.
>NASA 19 billion dollars a year since 1959
>STS 31 aborted EVA.
>sea LEVEL

heres a view from the cuppola module of the international space station, but im sure its fake you stupid faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7xLCSpIEZE

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What stops the water from just spilling over the edge of this flat earth? Is there a big wall all the way round it's circumference? If we are constantly going 'up' as gravity is a myth, what keeps the flat disc stable? How come it doesn't topple over?

>>735363690
it is cgi. the iss fead is the bottom of a swimming pool. They have never shown any of the 2500 other sattelites in orbit below them or any of the other 5000 pieces of space debris.

>>735363790
you are a piece of absolute garbage, the iss has no propulsion system, its on a fixed orbit and that orbit is not going to collide with a satillite you fucking piece of worthless shit, there are millions of hours of space footage on youtube, but you believe some faggot in his basement over NASA

>>735363772
At least you knew the water took the shape of its container and has never been observed or replicated conforming to the outside of a spinning ball. Antarctica as shown in all the above flat earth models holds it in. Gravity is a soliloquy for the LAW of density and bouyancy. We are on a flat stationary plane. The furthest we have traveled south Adm Byrd can only answer and deep into the ground only 8miles russian ultradeep mine.

>>735363881
if its on a fixed orbit with no propulsion system how does it maintain its orbit?
Thanks for the insults, they dont help your point

>>735363772
these are questions from someone who hasnt researched. there is a large ice wall (south pole) that keeps all the water in. there is no gravity, we arent constantly going up. there is no "outer space" so there is no reason to be stable and no way to topple over. the flat earth is the Domed Earth model set forth as the biblical Firmament.

>>735345674
Charter a plane and fly around the earth. Whatever direction you take, you will NEVER hit an end. Well, above land/water of course. Hence flat earth is bs.

>>735364086
every once in a while if they need to correct the orbit the soyuz space craft or previously the shuttle would give it a push.

you dumb as a rock who secretly watches gay child pornography in your moms basement.

>>735364094
if there is a fucking ice wall why do we have a research base at the FUCK SOUTH POLE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station

>>735364180
if you fly east to west you can land in the same position because of the orientation of north. on a flat plane works perfectly fine.

>>735364094
No outer space? So all the mercury Gemini and Apollo missions, Russian space program, space shuttle and all those satellites in orbit that the dish outside your house may have pointed to if you had one to watch tv are all fake? All of them?

>>735364266
geographic south pole not magnetic. the live footage of the sun at the south pole station should show continuos sun for half the year but it never does...

>>735364347
yeah, next time flat earthers use google maps gps on their phone they should be required to shove said phone up their ass

>>735364347
sputnik is the name of their state run news agency.

Yes it was all fake.

>>735364327
Excuse me? Orientation? You dont have to use the navigation systems on board, just fly straight in one direction. THERE IS NO END.

>>735345674
People have had airplanes for a while. No proof of flat world. How do you explain not being able to see across the ocean? Case closef.

>>735364401
its located in the middle of Antarctica, beyond this so called ice wall from game of thrones that you believe in, you cum guzzling no critical thinking faggot

>>735364435
google maps uses the mercator projection. how big is greenland really? positioning system is tech from the 50s using radio wave triangulation. same as today cell towers to pinpoint phone location

>>735364495
operation highjump
>200-300 ft icewall/cliff
all you shills can gtfo now that im here
I LOVE THE NAME CALLING

>>735345674
>a lot makes sense

Thats kind of the entire problem here man...

You can make a very great narrative out of just about anything. I could make up some bullshit and if it makes sense and i tie it together neatly enough, and it anti science or anti trump or anti clinton (getting a bit dated i know)

Ill have followers. End of story. Its bullshit, but it makes sense, so people believe.
So im sorry to say. But if this works on you, please do whatever you can to make it not work on you.

>>735346042
>several miles apart

I think it was way..way more than that.

>>735364503
Alright you dumb motherfucker, to project a spherical earth on a flat map the polar regions are enlarged, this is not some great conspiracy. But you know more than 2000 years of accumulated knowledge and science because you watched some youtube videos made by a faggot who never had a girlfriend

Anyone that's ever been on a plane either knows the earth is a sphere or needs to off themselves

>>735345674
What about the moon and other planetsare they flat too?

>>735364452
You know the ISS is LIVE streaming?
What are your thoughts about private corps like SpaceX?

>>735364495
>>735364480
>>735364469
>>735364435
>>735364203
>>735364180
Hi im a globetard. I believe that nothing became so dense it exploded into everything. Then some cosmic space jizz settled and evolved into monkies then humans. A huge rock randomly from space slammed into earth and created the perfect sphere size to make perfect eclipses. Dinosaurs came before us though and have been whiped out at least 99% 7 or 8 times. We are spinning 1k miles and hr at the equator and 65k miles an hr around the sun, but we never feel it. We beleive whole heartedly that the force of gravity holds the oceans and atmosphere to the spinning ball but the force of electromagnetism is stronger.

>>735364874
HURR DURR THE UNIVERSE DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME SO

GOD DID IT AND MADE EARTH ON A PLATE AND LITTLE CANDLES FLOAT AROUND ABOVE IT

>>735364854
ya its down everyday for at least 45min for updating(getting tommorows cgi ready)
spaceX:nasa
clevelandshow:family guy

>>735348971
>Mic drop

>>735364874
"Perfect" elipses? Never said that.

>>735365005
pretty good cgi, cause the weather is always accurately showed. that includes light phenomenas. also astronauts working on the outside including their helmet cameras.

>>735348971
I tried to prove it was round.
>scientists peer reviewed 24,900 miles equator
>oh shit here we go again with the equation
>went to shoreline looked at island 14 miles away
>if curve shouldnt see
>where curve
>no curve


shits flat bros math proves it everywhere you go. fuck you want to use math geomentry recreatable experiments with distance and lasers.
>shits still flat

>>735350370
>>735350672
>what is gravity

>>735365186
ya even bubbles escaping from equipment, the suits, the station itself. why bubbles is space underwater?

>>735365199
was that island over 30 meters over sea level? probably, then you could see it, but you didnt really do that. you are just lying and havent left your room in days, i bet you piss and shit in jars

>>735365260
who says there was bubbles, scientists or faggots on the internet?

but wait, i thought it was CGI

>>735365250

Exactly, what is gravity REALLY?

>>735365412
only a theory in a madmans brain

>>735345674
https://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs just watch this retard. Everything is well explained for idiots like you

>>735345674
Yes, you are retarded.

>>735345674
Look Duder,
It's good that you are questioning things and are trying to find out on your own, but you are questioning the wrong things. Why don't you take a page from Descartes' book and deny everything to be true except for the few undeniable facts. Anything built off those facts will inherently be true as well and go from there, see where it takes you.

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No, and if you think it is your fucking retarded.

>>735365412
an accumulation of mass that when sufficient size bends space-time and creates a gravity well. You hairy ass eating hiv+ shit puppet

>>735345674

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference

you should try it.

>>735365548
You're* fucking retarded.

The greeks mayans egyptians romans, and early arabs before it went to shit all knew the earth was round and calculated its size

2017 and we have you worthless fucks who watch some youtube video and think you have a PhD

>>735365792
I think the arabs still know its round.

>>735365792
Yeah, it's very sad. Humanity is heading towards Idiocracy.

heres a video of the space shuttle launch seen from a plane, pretty cool, but im sure it wasnt going to space, and its all cgi, you faggot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_USPTmYXM

Just watch a SpaceX webcast. All I'm going to say.

>>735366047
i believe you are right, but back in the day they were the scholars and invented algebra, ect.

>>735365412
Imagine a blanket stretched tight. Now out a bowling ball in the middle. Now marbles. Watch as the marbles travel towards bowling ball.


Now imagine the indent the bowling ball makes on the blanket. Now imagine its a 3 dimensional indent that surrounds the earth.

Its the bending if space time

>>735345674
Even Trump knows earth isn't flat.

>>735352996
It kind of is. If people are taught something and then choose to believe otherwise, that means they weren't taught very well.

>>735366198
I know that as well.
They had an ultra conservative lead in like 14th century or something who had a good ol fashion book burning. Then the russians happened.

>>735356008
Time dliation. You can't reach c by accelerating.

>>735366319
This.

Its an extremely common trend im seeing these days and i have no idea how rampant it is but..

Seems people think "makes sense and story ties together = truth"

And it takes a small amount of education in critical thinking and research to stop that and yet it isnt happening.