Britfags how do you feel about the fact that the US-UK "Special

>>735210270
UK, bites the hand that feeds them

> Period

>>735210270
You insulted your own intelligence by electing a complete waste of DNA.

>>735211355
this a million times

>>735211355
>>735211435
I'd rather have Trump as president than have a terror attack every month

>>735211602
I'd rather have a few towel headed twats run around with knives every now and again rather than have any old member of the public have a shit day at work and go shoot up his coworkers .

>>735211894
Neat, give me a source of where that's happened?

>>735211602
I'd rather not have one of my own shoot up a night club, or a mall, or a high school with readily available automatic weapons

>>735212126
Monday morning in Orlando , you're welcome .

>>735212325
>one of my own shoot up a night club
Sandnigger detected

Funny, America has a short history, but it's just one fuck up after another, truly a nation on its own.

>>735212126
John Robert Neumann, Jr. to be precise .

>>735212545
it was a domestic terrorist. reasoning with you is going to be tough huh anon. you don't care much for facts

>>735210270

Personally I'm glad of it. On the one hand, the break of the special relationship would be a massive kick in the teeth to the little englanders/american arselickers who voted for brexit. On the other, continuing to shackle ourselves to a nation that is so in love with the 1950s that it elected one of the most corrupt, unintelligent, and mentally unstable presidents in history would be the long term equivalent of national suicide (socially, economically, and militarily) and clearly attributable to those aforementioned close-minded morons.

And anyways, it's not like the majority of your population elected your president. In the long term, I figure that insulting your corrupt shitstain of a president would be a huge benefit to the transatlantic alliance, once the respective partners have gotten over their current bouts of madness and started taking their meds again.

>>735211355
> Intelligence
> Still living in a country where there is no separation of church and state

pick one britfag

>>735213380
self-proclaimed anon knows less about philo, govt, history and law than my 18-yr-old dropout fuckpiece. anon's best bet is to keep leveraging approval from similar.

>>735213548
>implying the US has serpeation of church and state
>forgetting The US just made it ok for religious (tax exempt) groups to donate politically
Get fucked you retard amerifag

>>735213739
Ok, I'll take your bait. What's your reasoning?

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>>735213799
> How many seats in congress is held by bishops of the church in the US?
> Answer 0
> How many seats in parliament is held by bishops of the church in the UK?
> Answer 26

Get fucked you ignorant britfag

>>735214040
like I said "retard amerifag"
thank you for uploading timely visual confirmation

>>735211602
After watching Ariana Grande the Muslims were probably doing us a favour

>Also Inb4 9/11

>>735210270
There were calls to ban him fucking ages ago, since then Trump said himself the relationship still stands.
There are calls from inside your own bloody country to have him impeached or even killed, I don't believe for a second a significant amount of people are mad.
It was a petition, nothing came of it, nothing will come of it.
The United States recently has pissed off every potential partner they could. Sure, you are individually a strong country, but you can't just run around alone, because you're not THAT strong. Your neighbours think your president is a cunt, all people you trade with agree, from Europe to Australia, across America and into China... You said you had a special relationship with France, look how Macron acts with Trump. You still need a couple friends.

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>>735214323
This is my favorite clock tower, it's known as 'tiny tim', which is your favorite?

>>735210270
England owns the US. We never gained our true independence from them. It's all an illusion.

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>>735214558

ignore this & go to
>JғucktoɴJGHt.com

>>735214228
Who the fuck cares? They're there to represent the populous, can't those few bishops represent the few religious people?
You act as though the US government isn't influenced by religion, one of your main parties is run by religious fanatics, at least that's how it's seen by us over here.
Don't you pledge yourselves to the country and god at schools? No? That not a thing indoctrinating your children at an institutional level from the very start?

>>735214558

Erm... what?

Be assured, if that was even vaguely true, the British Empire would never have fallen.

>>735210270
Only left wing retards, pakis and feminists kicked up a fuss about the President coming. The most un diplomatic political maneuvering. We host Saudis, Chinese, Putin.

>>735214477
>There are calls from inside your own bloody country to have him impeached or even killed,
Free speech is pretty nice. You should try it sometime. Instead you get jailed 600 years for telling a muzzle that you won't suck his dick today.

>>735215052
My point was you can't be angry with people here for speaking against him when you do yourself.

>>735211602
Trump=/=A terror attack every month.

>>735214228
Our vice-president is a christian fundamentalist who believes he can thunderbolt the faggotry out of people. Secularism is not exactly an area america can brag about.

>>735211602
>the terror attacks caused by a war the US started
>US population slaughters itself more than terrorists slaughter EU

Toppest of keks

>>735215136
It's none of our business who the USA elect, stay out of their politics you retard. Just be diplomatic and friendly and host whom ever they elect

>>735215136
He says stupid things, I agree the tweet regarding Manchester was out of line, but he never has threatened to ban your prime minister from visiting the US that I recall.

>>735215317
I don't agree with these people, I signed the counter-petition against it. They're a bunch of spastics with no power.
This thread is heavily implying the UK is extremely reliant on the US, therefore who you elect has a huge impact, by your own arrogant theories. It is our business.
>>735215488
And neither has our prime minister ever said or even implied we would ban him

>>735214888
Lets just get this straight

> You just said "Who cares if Bishops are apart of our government?
> The Republican party is run by religious people
Side Note (Who are constantly under attack and ridicule for letting their religious beliefs seep into their politics)
> God is in the US pledge of allegiance ( Which is a major subject of controversy over here)
> God is in your National anthem

Are you fucking retarded? The US wins in a debate over church and state over the UK every fucking time.

>>735215627
Ridiculous. There is hardly any stigma over abortions, gay marriages, anything. Our leaders don't swear themselves in on a fucking bible. Our policies are less religious, those with real power are less religious. The national anthem is one thing, but swearing to God DIRECTLY LINKED WITH SWEARING FOR YOUR COUNTRY, doesn't seem very separate to me.

The anthem is an odd thing, as many aren't religious and many are anti-monarchy, but the concept of monarchy and royalty are deeply linked in its core concept. But do presidents pledge themselves to God in any other country?

>>735215627
AND 26 MPs, out of about 650, as opposed to most of your politicians.

>>735216084
> Our leaders don't swear themselves in on a fucking bible
The major of London was sworn in on a fucking Quran
> There is hardly any stigma over abortions, gay marriages/Our policies are less religious
Then why is Gay marriage and abortion still Illegal in Northern Ireland UK fag?

>>735216084

...shall we talk about "divine right of kings"eh britfag?

Didn't think so. Besides. Shouldn't you be out voting to stop the communists from taking over?

Don't let us amerifags down. She may be shit, but better daffy old fox hunting biddy that a fuckin commie islamic dick holster.

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>>735216382
>The major of London was sworn in on a fucking Quran

orange man will be impeached soon then we can have make up sex. ILY AmeriFags xx

>>735215627
Ultimately, the UK is a post christian country. We have the lingering trappings of being a christian country (Easter, Christmas, the twelve bishops in the 900-odd members of the Lords, etc.), but the consistent picture from both polls and census data is that the largest faith-based division of Brits are atheists/agnostics.

>>735216519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu6zLBFTqEY

What is the voting criteria in the U.K.? Can refugees vote? Not trying to be an asshole, genuinely curious?

>>735216382
A mayor is not a president.
There is a lot of autonomy within Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. I'm talking from the perspective of the vast majority. I was not even aware it was illegal in Northern Ireland, but the Irish are very different to the English.
>>735216459
Divine right of kings is a concept which was ripped apart by the English civil war, mate, the monarchy has next to no influence on politics.
The voting ended 3 hours ago, I thought you guys loved free speech etc. though? The tories don't.

>>735210270
Op gives us his version of "Alice through the looking glass"

>>735216841
Mate why are you arguing with Ameritards?

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>>735216823
what the fuck britain

>>735217018
Nothing to do. Waiting on results. Feeling political.

>>735216818
True, your population is very progressive and challenging of religion, which I respect

But your Government is very nonsecular which is what the argument is about.

>>735216818
>post christian
pre islam

>>735216841

Bullshit, the royal family has no effect on politics? bollocks.

Also, your gov is already wrecking free speech in rotterdam. At least the old lady will get you out of the EU and off terrorist dick. maybe.

>>735210705
> UK, bites the hand that feeds them

Funny, because of US history, ya know

>>735217395
Are you referring to the time when a bunch of farmers with muskets and pitchforks kicked out the most powerful military at the time?

>>735217319
Not bollocks, they do nothing. They're purely ceremonial, last time they weren't they lost their head.
She failed every immigration quota, when that was her main job. Labour wants out too.
Anyway, in a few days she won't have a job, the party looks like they will 'win' but she fucked up badly this election, looks like she'll be out.
You realise the woman you're talking about is the one in power now, yes? The only person actively trying to destroy the free speech, freedom of the internet and information?
>>735215627
>>735216823
I wasn't aware our MPs swore themselves in at all. Maybe you're right and there's a lot of work still to be done... But I was aware of your president doing it, so really the impact on the UK of religion is so hidden, so minimal, whereas your politicians are very vocal about religion.
An atheist, or a muslim could quite easily get into positions of serious political power. Is that the same in for you in the US?

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>>735217684
>Most powerful military
It wasn't. It was the most powerful navy, but the British army was really rather small.

They were also fairly well tied up with the French and Spanish.

>>735211894
Disgruntled employees aren't actively trying to turn our country into a caliphate.

>>735217684
(And the French and Spanish)
(After a war against the HRE, Sweden, Russia, France, Spanish and Mughals)
I think your history teachers glorify yourselves quite a bit.

Anyway, I thought for a moment you were talking about Vietnam

>>735218181
>tied up with the French and Spanish.
Well you should have considered that before starting a war on a 3rd front.

Britfag living in the US here. Britain is honestly fucked. It is an awful place to live and I'm glad I was able to emigrate. This is doubly the case if the exit polls hold true and Corbyn forms a coalition government.

>>735217892

Again, bollocks, they opinions and the people listen.

Labour "wants out" because they'd have no chance if they didn't, HOW you get out is up to who you choose. No deal or good deal vs Here's our ass, please insert immigrants. Like I said, your entire giv is trying to fuck over the net, labor is no diffrent.

You guys fucked and cucked yourselves into a authoritarian vs an authoritarian. Only choice now is Who will get youva decent break from the EU and who will ACTUALLY lessen immigrants.

>>735211894
you sir made me laugh!

>>735218444
Obviously not very good at maths. Arithmetically impossible based on the exit polls 318 is no majority my friend.

>>735210270
Fine by me. Americas going to shit anyway.

>guns
>10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens
> 0.23 per 100,000 UK

Hmmm would I rather have 3 attacks in a year from outside influences or 5 per week from those who live next door what a tough choice

>>735218270
Nobody won in Vietnam, especially not the Vietnamese. I've never seen a fully automatic musket either.

>>735218502
Neither will lessen immigrants.
And again, you're American, aren't you? I'm sorry, I thought I knew a bit more about the politics of my own country? The monarchy's opinions are very muted, they never really speak on it. I'm fairly sure the queen was pro-EU, we left.

Also Theresa May was a remainer, SHE wants to leave because she has to.

>>735218763
Yeah that's where I caught on you were talking about your independence.

>>735218181
>>735218270
Its funny you both bring up France (Americas oldest and most reliable ally)

> Since they are the reason the US will favor a trade deal with the EU over the UK
> And The US will transition all the trade we had with the UK over to France(easily)

Is may going to win?

>>735210270
But our president certainly insulted them first.

Are you this retarded?

Instead of arguing why don't you guys post some pics of naked chick's

>>735218963
Not really. Exit polls show she's not getting a majority, not that they can be completely trusted. Either way she's definitely not boosting her mandate, not excelling her majority, this will either be seen her dire mistake, or her wasting everyone's time.
She's in trouble

>>735211602
Why not both?

The president doesn't personally stop attacks and the people are already here, so....

>>735219191
Thx

>>735218782

She's running on a platform of lessening them, if she doesn't, she's done. He wants open borders.

Fuck off, like you britfags don't constant harp on Trump as if the majority of us WASN'T trying to just stop hillary.

Both HAVE to, like I said, what kind of deal do you want? Decent or none vs immigrants in my bum?

Vote away, red gay!

>>735211602
why?

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>>735219148
here's my favorite British milf

>>735210270
Haha, the rest of the world is laughing at you murica. You have become a joke. You're fucking idiots who think they are the greatest. Even Kim Jong Un thinks you're a fucking joke.

>>735219449
go to bed Mohammed

>>735214558
Haha, I always about to say the same thing. Coleman, y'all.

>>735214909
British Empire never fell. Brits are smart cookies.

>>735219449
Don't think, we know we are the best

>>735219334
I'm just saying, the tories made a lot of promises about lessening immigration, and it was her job, and she completely failed.
It doesn't seem Corbyn will try to decrease immigration at all, so she is the vote for borders, but she is not dedicated to it, she can run on it all she wants, but she will not achieve what she is saying, so you'd be an idiot to vote for her based on that.

>>735219555
always> was

(damn, I make the strangest mistake while drunk)

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>>735219423
here my favorite British butt

>>735217892
>I wasn't aware our MPs swore themselves in at all.
Your unaware of the way of your own government operates
> So why are speaking on other nation's governments?

>>735219643

Immigration and Brexit are THE concerns. Probably in that order for most poorfolk. It's a shit choice, but the only choice to make. Conservative or communist.

Bucks or cucks. You have my sympathies and we'll still have your backs, but, fuck... don't pull a france. Or you'll end up like... france.

Which of you fucking runts voted for those commie labour twats?! This country is absolutely finished if labour ever gets in power again.

>>735219555

Yes it fucking did moron. There's a reason that the scottish economy collapsed in the 1970s/80s. That reason was that they're specialised in the business of Empire, and when that collapsed, the once second city of the Empire (Glasgow) wound up an economic basketcase.

>>735220014
corbyn isnt a commie you idiot, hes a socialist

>>735219781
Swearing in has no effect on how the government runs.
I don't know if you're the same guy as when I started, but if not if you trace back you'll see he starts a comparison, I compare back.

>>735220077
public debt has raised by over 500 billion under austerity ;)

>>735220178
>hes a socialist
keep telling yourself that.
They call themselves 'socialist' until they gain power.

>>735220290

Because it isnt actual austerity you cunt.

>>735220437
OK, short form, communist is the determination that everything belongs to the state, and then gets distributed from there, socialist, believes that everyone has a strong responsibility to everyone else within the society, and that society should be more equal, but not entirely so.

>>735220091
Uh, how about you step outside your little world, moron. As if London cares about Scotland.

>>735210270
>Britfags how do you feel about the fact that the US-UK "Special relationship" is heading for a "Break Up"

> Amerifags are mad at you
> Left & Right
> You insulted us when your public & Government officials called to ban the US President from entering Britain

Still hoping for that Trade deal guarantee?

>>735220774
I guess there weren't many responses to that because it's fucking retarded

>>735220880
Yeah we are just bantering mostly, but it was decent bait.

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>>735220178

You were saying?

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>>735220677
Ok, short form, both of those will fuck you over. Neither form reward individual enterprise or ingenuity, and both promote welfare states and government dependency.

>>735220774
Did Americans call for a ban on the UK PM and Queen when you where systematically murdering Irish Catholics?

> Answer; no
> Because shutting down diplomacy is never an answer

>>735220712
Are you trying to claim that I'm wrong? Are you trying to claim that scotalnd's wealth wasn't built first on supplying the CSA with military materiel (including the weapons and ammunition that allowed the slave states to remain in the US civil war), or that it's subsequent industrial wealth wasn't built on the exploitation of imperial markets?

>>735221266
LOL retard

>>735221770
Excellent rebuttal.

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>>735220278
Swearing in has no effect on how the government runs
> Culture/tradition as no effect on government

why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>735221475
Eh... what does that have to do with anything?

>>735221809
your idiocy doesn't warrant one

>>735221402
Yes, because US Irish catholics were at any point a politically significant component of the US populace.

And for that matter, systematic and continuing (i.e. beyond bloody sunday) murder of catholics by UK forces never happened. Actions after Bloody Sunday were no different from the CIA's actions against Al-Qaieda or similar orgainsations.

>>735222016
Y'know, everything? If you're going to claim that London doesn't give a shit about Scotland, then you have have to recognise that Scotland's current situation is a result of scotland's own long term choices. Otherwise you're basically subscribing to the SNP's victim narrative.

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>>735222227
> US Irish catholics were at any point a politically significant component of the US populace

Come again?

>>735222074
Karl Marx had a micro penis. It was discovered upon his death.

>>735222724
Just that.

If they were a genuinely powerful component, then JFk's catholicism would be a far more powerful part of his legacy.

Reality is that the most powerful component of his legacy was a progressive, democratic one. Otherwise, his catholic base would have voted in lockstep with his successors. And we all know that they didn't.

>>735222074
Karl Marx gave me a handjob at Denny's

>>735221907
Aye it's the whole point of what I was saying. They can do their traditions but it's behind closed doors and for the most part doesn't come into actual policy. Unlike the US.

>>735218637
Honestly I'm okay with guns in this country, it gives you a way of revenge for those who seriously wronged you, a near painless way of an hero, gives internet tough guys a bigger dick to swing, and levels the field against someone much larger than you or that have more numbers than you. Even if islamfags get them too, I'd rather have an armed population than relying on my gathering of shitcunts I call the government to protect me. Those guys are fucking worthless haven't even put Hillary behind bars.

>>735218944
underrated post

>>735219449
That's fine. I'm okay with that, too far away for it to really affect my life in anyway. Laugh until your blue in the face buddy, have yourself a ball. Quite honestly we laugh at all you guys too. Laughter truly is the best medicine.

>>735211602
you forgetting about all those school shootings? You;re fine when a white kid kills a bunch of people but not brown skins? This is why the rest of the world see's americans as an embarrassment.

>>735226009
The rest of the world is paying attention to us. We pay attention to nobody. Enough said.

>>735226273
Typical arrogance, you think you are the only super power because that's what your media feeds you. Think for yourself please. Realise that China has both the US and UK by the balls. Patriotism is a cancer that blinds.

>>735226009
>You;re fine when a white kid kills a bunch of people but not brown skins?
The "white kid" who did that was sentenced to death.

>>735226557
whats the difference? more random kids have killes far more than any terrorist has lmao.

This is why Americans aren't liked man, you;s are just stuck up your own asses. Saluting your flag like some Nazi shit every morning, Pull your heads out your arse man, you're country is just as shit as us Brits.

>>735226780
Fuck man, is it because the ignorant ones yell the loudest that people think all americans are arrogant fucktards?

>>735226423
China is a manufactured threat. They are the slaves of the world. Power will only go to them if others can no longer be used as slaves.

>>735226780
>whats the difference?

>>735226971
yeah probably, i mean i know the majority of yanks are decent reasonable people. It's just the straight up brain washed ones that salute their flag and genuinely believe the bullshite their fed from being a 3 year old. That stuff is very creepy to brits and Euro's.

At least i'm not being led to fucking ruin by a failed business man who's skin tone is fucking Fanta.

>>735227102
>implying that you'd prefer your children to be killed by a white kid rather than a brown terrorist

why does that make a difference?

>>735211602
Ice burn for the bongs

>>735226780
>whats the difference?
There's a huge difference.
He's going to be ass raped in prison for 20 years and then given a steak dinner on the night of his lethal injection. Whereas in Europe, you get a hotel room and a PlayStation.

>>735227368
youve just completely changed the argument and point.

I agree it's bullshit in Europe though. It's getting really bad.

>>735227143
I honestly wish that we didn't go ape shit, like when we were invading iraq and the french didn't support us or something we changed French fries to Freedom fries. Or lose faith in our government because of obstructionists so we put in a demented man as a leader. I will say, as an american, I am sorry for the shit my fellow countrymen pull.

>>735227576
How old are you?

>>735227741
28

>>735227576
nah man, wasnt all America. Tony Blair and George Bush are war criminals and set all this shit off in the middle east. They should be trialed for war crimes.

>>735227922
Tony Blair got caught sucking jebs bus

>>735227922
>checked
Alas, I think it's fucked up, but still nowhere near how fucked I think America is becoming at the moment, and would rather not have the same shit happening again, along with North Korea, especially with the current administration. Personally I believe it would be a dire interest to focus more on the present and defend what is going on more with fundamental extremism/selfishness that is seems to be plaguing America right now, than trying to assign blame for Iraq.

>>735228571
Yeah you bring up a good point, how many Americans actually realise the reason North Korea is such a horrific place to live is because America fire bombed like 12 cities during the Korean war. And it seems like the yank population just doesnt realise America interfering has literally created one of the most miserable dictatorships to live under.

Everything they get involved with comes out worse.

>>735228814
Well, I don't mean just that, but the way generals are starting to call it a clear and present danger, sounds like some foreshaddowing of them trying to fuck with KJU, which is going to end up not going well for anyone. Encouraging the middle east to create more instability does not help either.

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>>735210270
Go back to /pol/, faggot.

>>735221158
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>>735224849
Those are some truly terrible reasons, can't wait for your 15th birthday

>>735224849
>levels the field against someone much larger than you
in your case you mean more physically fit, because you're probably fat as shit

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>>735226423
Which fucked-up, backwater island do you come from where the media actually tells you "hey we're the only superpower"? Even FOX News doesn't do that anymore. The media feeds us cats being pulled out of trees, far-left commentary that's really just filler by this point, and memes that supposedly signal white supremacy, but actually don't. Politicians tell the media what to believe, and the media tells the people what to believe. Simple!

I don't even watch the news that's on tv anymore because it's so heavily biased, and often just plain depressing. I'd say that's step one in thinking for yourself, rather than becoming another brainwashed zombie.

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>>735213548
>Implying you don't have states that dropped evolution in the curriculum in favor of teaching creationism

religion will bring down the secular nation that was the United States. far right Christians will destroy all that the country stood for by fictional beliefs made into law. Muslims 1st, then Judaeo-christian will become just Christian.
They just want the end times /b/ros.

>>735230012
I cant tell if you;re agreeing with me or you misunderstood what i said.

But yes you're bang on mate.

>>735230043
what us state teaches creationism?


> Don't believe everything the British media teaches you bud

>>735217018
That attitude is why the US will be shifting towards a EU/France foreign policy in the future

> Have fun humbling yourself and begging for a trade deal with China
> Britcuck

>>735232258
LOL, really, we(the us) are going to shift more towards the people we just pissed off with the nato, paris agreement, and talking shit to merkel, are going to go towards the EU? We are less concerned with the UK and the EU than we are with our president. Quit acting like a faggot and flamming brits you insidious unironic cuck.