I'm ready to settle down and start a family. My problem

>>735190082
Thailand Cambodia Vietnam Malaysia or china

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>>735190082
Thailand. You can literally by virgins there for about $1,200. If you want one that was educated in a private school it'll cost you more. A 18-20 yo virgin girl who can speak fluent English will cost between $,5000 - $20,000.

>>735192306
They're cheaper in Cambodia and Vietnam

>>735190082
>I'm 49, thus ready to settle down and start a family.

>>735193288
Perfect age in Thailand. She'll worship you like a king.

Spent 6 months in thailand late 2015 can confirm rather easy to find a girlfriend, had 3 over the period.

>>735193233
It's much harder to secure a visa for your bride to be in those countries. Also, there are less private catholic schools in those countries, so it will be very difficult to find a girl who speaks fluent English who is simultaneously beautiful. In those countries your options will be EITHER a beautiful girl who doesn't understand a lick of English, OR an ugly girl who knows just enough English to hold a third grade level conversation.

>>735190082
Look online. My brother in laws older brother went on some asiain dating site and met a girl from some asian country, idk which one, they're all the same to me, a couple years ago and now they're married. Shes pretty hot too.

>>735193694
Non English speakers are better though. Once she's in the states she'll be 100% dependent on you and as a consequence your wiling slave. Just take her to Disneyland once in a while and she'll think she's gone to heaven and spend the rest of the time worshipping your cock.

>>735193940
I have. Every online site I've tried ended up being an obvious scam, where you have to pay a shit load of money to talk to girls who have no intention of every meeting you and who are being paid by the dating site to string you along for a percentage of what you pay the site to chat with them.

I'm unaware of any Asian oriented dating site that doesn't do this.

>>735190082
You can order them, but it takes money. There's a lot of hidden fees too in visas, plane tickets, etc. Not to mention you may have the chemistry of oil and water.

And here is a spoiler, she's using you for the money just like you're using her for the easy pussy. If you don't really have cash, she's going to drop an anchor baby and leave you for someone who does. I've seen it happen. I knew a guy that ordered a pretty hot wife from siberia, she left him just weeks after her first child was delivered (thus insuring her US citizenship).

HOWEVER, if you really have cash, I'm sure she'll be a perfect docile housewife as long as you support her in a luxurious manner.

But a better option for good wifey material is to join a church that basically encourages people to marry the devout of their own denomination. It's not a strictly arranged marriage, but if you're a member in good standing with the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, THEY WILL FIND YOU A WIFE. And usually the men are like 2-3/10 and their wives 9s and 10s in both of those groups. Their families strongly encourage them to marry single men within the church so you're sort of shooting fish in a barrel. They'll be good, low-mileage women. Docile housewives.... BUT likely not very kinky and you might not get sex until marriage.

>>735194218
I honestly have no idea if he had to pay to use the site, but it obviously worked for him though.
Good luck.

>>735194374
Also, no idea what site he used or I'd look it up for you.

>>735194150
>Non English speakers are better though.

You think this is true, but after 6 months, when the sex gets old, you're stuck with nothing but a self cleaning fleshlight who isn't capable of doing anything that stimulates you intellectually.

No partner to share your life.

>>735194447
Send him a text and ask him. Shouldn't take more than 3 minutes if you aren't lying.

dont bother committing
just holiday in thailand twice a year for 2/3 weeks at a time.

It will be waaaaay cheaper over all

>>735194523
>when the sex gets old,
You must not do sex right

>>735194218
Just go to a normal dating site, my wife is from the Philippines and while we met through a friend, she knows lots of girls who found their fiance's on OkCupid etc. Just be wary a lot of them are probably just looking to emigrate and will leave you once they can. Maybe make them sign a prenup.

The NORM in her little FB group is 20-30yo filipinas with either beta or 40-70yo (or both) white fiance sponsors

>>735194628
Or just move to Thailand

find yourself a nice foreign exchange student

>>735194604
I haven't talked to him in a couple years. I only know about it because my sister told me about him getting married about a year after it happened.
I have no reason to lie.

>>735194714
you have to be very wealthy for that, if you aren't thai you cant work. You get caught working expect next day deportation. No appeals, no rights.

>>735194706
Laws were passed about 7 years ago that offers more protection to America citizens from these immigration scams.

If she leaves you after getting her greencard, you can fill out paperwork informing the state department you suspect that she was lying to you to get into the country and they can revoke her green card.

>>735194945
Oh shit! Thanks for the heads up. How do I look up the laws by the way? Greencard abuse or something?

>>735194797
liar.

>>735194523
There's only so much you can do with one person.

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>>735190082
Son, you don't know what you're talking about.
You want what you've seen in film and television but marriage and having children is all a social science experiment. By instincts men want to spread their seed and women need to actually become impregnated... but not by choice but instead by the change in brain chemistry.
Society orchestrated dating, marriage and the need to fit a template of being a husband and father, why?.... To control the system and manipulate the people.

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>>735190082
Any state college campus. Even Zuckerberg got one this way.

Not sure how you're failing at this.

>>735195209
>Son
Stopped reading right there. Patronizing is obvious bait.

>people troll with what makes them angry
>attempting to patronize someone for being young reveals that you hate yourself for still living with your mother

>>735195357
Have you heard the rumor that a faction within the US intelligence community suspects Zuckerberg's wife of being a Chinese spy?

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>>735195501
No, but she apparently gave him a BJ in college. Must've been nice.

>>735194856
Thailand is cheap just save a little and you can live easy

>>735190082
Jesus christ I feel like I went to high school with that girl, She stands a good 4'7 and was dating a black guy at the time... or atleast I think they were dating, maybe just fucking.

Definitely don't start a family with an Asian woman. You'll just end up with fucked up kids.

>>735195826
If they are male kids, yes. If they are female kids, they're literally the most gorgeous women on the planet.

>>735194706
It's one thing to do that for pussy. It is a whole other thing to do it to start a family.

>>735190082
If you're looking to do a mail order bride, there's actually a pretty good reality show on it called like 90 day fiance. There's a lot of it on youtube. Sometimes it works and sometimes it falls apart.

>>735195944
In this sense, a lot of the stereotypes hold true. Asians are likely to make higher intelligence babies, however, they're likely to have less musculature than most races and males might be underendowed (there's a reason there's almost a complete lack of Asian men in porn).

I personally wouldn't consider anything but a white girl for making babies with.... I could probably date, fuck, and have a relationship with a lighter skinned hispanic or Asian, but I want my kids to be white.

>>735192306
>A 18-20 yo virgin girl who can speak fluent English will cost between $,5000 - $20,000

i dont know how to feel about this

>>735196069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NpxZhBK0o4

kek

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>>735196373
>$15,700

>>735196373
Horny you're supposed to feel horny

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>>735196702
>guaranteed virgin

>>735196585
Jesus Christ. I cringed.

>we were supposed to have sex when you got here
>I know, but after I met you I changed my mind. Still want to get married for the Visa though.

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>>735197045
>19
>private catholic school
>fluent English
>father is a dentist
>hired an actual Thailand cop who moonlights as a private investigator to check out her whole family
>family has an excellent reputation.
>she never even had a boyfriend

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>>735196585
@5:55

>>735195947
Welp better than the scam dating sites op had already tried

If you're taking about me,I trust my wife since she was best friends with my cousin

>>735197484
Post more of her

>>735197138
Never spend money on a girl who isn't giving you what you want never ever ever ever

>>735197484
and you actually believe all that ?

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>>735197935

>>735198028
Honesty that's not that unusual in Thailand

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>>735198028
Yes.
I'm own my own bar and spent years around bar sluts. You can just tell that she's a good girl within 30 seconds of meeting her.

>>735196702
>>735197484
>>735198053
>>735198155

You just straight up bought her for $15k ?

>>735195357
Who the fuck are the people in this image and how are they relevant to any situation whatsoever if I don't even know who they are?

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>>735198342
Yes.
Here is a picture of her sister and her mom.

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>>735198342
>>735198419

here is a picture of her other sister.

>>735196585
>cant wait to have kids with you
>can just barely see the masked terror in her eyes

why would guys expose themselves like this

>>735190082
Oh they are such dolls. Cook, clean, breed, age slowly, at 50 they are still slim, helps the in-laws and no feminazism.

>>735198526
She didn't realize that he was pathetic until she met him in person.

Trying her best to make do because she still wants that green card

>>735198155
you poor delusional fool

>>735198767
(You) lonely faggot. What part of 'hired a private investigator who is an actual cop to investigate her entire family' did you not understand?

>>735198931
whatever man, you dont have to convince me just yourself

>>735198489
So hot, please don't stop

>>735198489
How much for that sister?

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>>735199118
I married her last month. Prenuptial agreement signed.
>>735199272
>pic related
>>735199343
She's single. She just turned 18. I assume her Sin Sod would be around the same as my wife.

>>735198526
Loneliness

>>735199588
Post wedding pics or it didn't happen

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>>735199693

>>735199588
More of her and the sister? She's so hot.

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>>735199856

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>>735199693
I'm not that anon, but I married a girl from the Philippines in February.

>>735199605
ive been nogf my whole life but i would never subject myself to marrying a woman who dont want to marry me

>>735199904
So fucking hot, does she give you head?

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>>735199693
>>735200258

>>735199904
Insane

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>>735200258
>>735200294

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>>735200388

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>>735200388
>>735200411

>>735199588
So my question would be how you worked out that deal. Did you her parents sell her off and she just went with it? I mean how's she okay with being basically cattle?

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>>735200411
>>735200438

>>735200411
Looks 14 in that picture

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>>735200438
>>735200471

>>735200258
>>735200294
How much did she cost?

>>735196373

Well, you haven't got even $5000, so your virgin ass is going to stay virgin, poorfag.

>>735200518
$3,250 US

>>735200584
Got any nudes to share

>>735200267
Many of these girls do want to marry these guys it's just not for love but for security. That's historically been the primary motivation for marriage. If you treat them well they reciprocate.

>>735200580
such hostility

i said i wasnt sure how to feel about it, im not judging anyone who does it but dont think i would be able to live with the fact that i bought my wife

the fact that you lash out like this tells me you arent 100% certain yourself

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>>735200269
She tries. She's terrible at it. She hasn't learned how to keep her teeth from scraping my dick.

I like that she's bad at it to be honest. She literally doesn't know anything about sex. She's like a blank canvas and she's eager to please me.

>>735200471
OMG! This woman must be desperate. He looks like the deformed guy from Goonies.

>>735200584
Jesus!.. Time to alter life plans.

>>735200697
Not to share. She's all mine.

>>735201017
I'm sure she is desperate and very grateful to have him. Let that sink in a bit.

>>735201094
Come on just her tits

Lol, "submissive Asian" fantasies? You weebs are going to be so disappointed. Why not have a real, honest relationship with someone instead of hoping for a sex robot? Vain degenerates

>>735190082
thread sucks. get a life.

>>735201258
If you can find the right girl this is the best option. Unfortunately girls like that are rare and this is honestly a great plan B.

>>735194661
>marry a 20 year old at 50
>she's still kicking at 50 and you're in a wheel chair at 80

Yea I'm sure you'll both have a great time coasting to your graves when neither of you can come close to sex.

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>>735201258
Buttmad Asian male with a small dick detected.

>they don't submit to you
>they submit to us because they actually respect us as men

>>735201181
I do. Several times a week.

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>>735193670
tell me more about this endeavour brah
>how did you meet
>did they speak english well
>how deep was the relation? only physical?

>>735201513
I simply don't believe that anyone owes anything to me because I'm caucasian. I mean, seriously, u can't hook up or date in the west cause women won't be complete doormats? U have to have a massive, fragile ego to want a sex slave

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>>735201258
Because women in western society no longer have loyalty or appreciation for their spouses. No matter how good the man is. He could be a Nobel winning multimillionaire with chiseled looks and alpha as fuck.
Western woman would think "if he thinks I'm great.. I MUST be better than the average woman!.. Wonder if I can get an even better man."

Women from second world countries with traditions and appreciation. They don't do that as readily.

>>735200471

I'm a guy in my mid 30's who bangs young 20'something women, but even I find this atrocious and creepy. Holy shit man, that would be like hitting on 13 year olds to me.

>>735202034
*shakes head* hooooooly crap. When u talk to a woman do u actually listen and care? Even when hooking up, there are these things called "listening skills" and "empathy" that form the foundation of an enjoyable experience

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>>735202042
I'm in the same situation as you.. But disagree.

If I could get a youthful petite asian wife who was intelligent, yet bent to my authority as the head of the household; I would pay a huge dowry.
Ten times what this Anon paid.

>>735202396
this is the dumbest thing that i have ever read. it's easy as fuck to tell if a girl is worth talking to in about the first 15 minutes of interacting with her.

>>735202034
Also, "cooking and cleaning?" uuuuuuh, that quote implies it's a problem that women are reduced to sex objects but doesn't seem to care about reducing women to the role of "maid," "household instrument." Welcome to a world where people's purpose in life isn't dedicated to another person's. It's an awesome world of individual freedom where u go out and fulfill life to how YOU see fit.

>>735202657
I don't see how what u said negates my point

>>735201928
It's not that we want a sex slave. It's that we want a woman who actually appreciates it when we man up. We want respect, which is something western women have been taught from childhood to never give.
>literally every third television commercial you watch on television depicts a superhero wife coming to the rescue of an incompetent father who can't tie his own shoes without his wife's help

Western women view manning up as a mere prerequisite men are just supposed to do in order to have a place of value within society and literally have no respect for us working are asses off to provide for our families. They have actually been taught from childhood to completely resent us for our provision, as if working a 50 hour week and then giving the fruits of that labor to an ungrateful wife and kids is some form of patriarchal oppression.

It's so refreshing to be with a woman who actually thanks you when you pay for the meal at a restaurant. Western women just assume men are supposed to pay and they believe the act of picking up the check at a restaurant isn't even worthy of a thanks.

>you're all spoiled rotten entitled brats
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

>>735202657
what kind of things help you decide usually?

>>735202396
Listen to me you empathetic little bitch.
I've tried it your way multiple times.
Watched my friends and family try.
Women only want one thing; to be better than other women. They want what the next girl wants. You raise their social standing? They're eyeing the next rung before your marriage certificate ink is dry.
They all have the same inane rambling insecurities and pitiable self affermations for shitty goals too. It was better when the majority knew their role in society, and only occasionally a woman who deserved to be elevated to the standards of Men emerged. They do NOT for the most part have half the value they believe they do.

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Listen, THIS is the reason why men want an asian wife. nothing to do with cooking, cleaning etc. it's for the fucking good sex.

>>735203111
Trips of godliness

>>735203111
This is a pretty twisted way of thinking, I honestly think you just had bad luck with women or something?

I never dated asian girls but I guarantee they're not all loyal and gratefull and what have you come on man

>>735202839
That's where they have been for thousands of years. You think taking them out of that environment and expecting them to perform is fair?
Look at them so far.. It's not even been a century and they are fucked out husks that nobody would want as a spouse.

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>>735203111
>working are asses
>are

>>735190082
>Western women just aren't marriage potential anymore.
>I don't know how to talk to girls and have no female friends
FTFY.

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>>735203360
You're new is showing

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA

>>735203360
Tits or get the fuck out

>>735203111
There's an enormous difference between being a decent person, and doing shit just to get a pat on the head and a blue ribbon. If I could list any problem with my fellow men today, issue number 1 would have to be ego. An enormous, squishy, soft ego that, when threatened even just a little, causes people like Elliot Rodger (or ur less extreme cases with internet ppl) to rage violently

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the reason why men like asian women. end of

>>735203185
XD touched a nerve did I? I'll ignore the fact that you just put every woman in the west into a box. But how about that projection? Who hasn't heard of the insecure dude who's always trying to outdo his fellow man sexually? I mean, u have entire forums dedicated to describing the difference between "alphas" and "betas," people trying to get a blue ribbon and a pat on the head for their "accomplishments." What a joke

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>>735203689
>sacrificing himself for the benefit of women and children without the expectation of appreciation is the only way a man can be a decent person
>if he expects appreciation in exchange for that sacrifice he is a selfish piece of shit

>>735196373
My friends uncle, an awkward loner for life, spend a year traveling Asia, brought back a pan faced girl from Philippines. They seem to click, and he pays like $400 a month to finance her family of 20+. They have two kids and the lonely other guys in his village hate him.

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>>735203689

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you are so so fucking naive. real virgin asian girls look like this.

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>>735203689
Imagine yourself on a cruise and the ship you are on is sinking. As lifeboats are put into the water, it is discovered that half of them are not seaworthy due to lax maintenance. One out of two sink as they are put into the water and its occupants swim back to the sinking cruise ship, desperately climbing back on board as everyone still on the cruise ship is panicking. You find yourself sitting on one of the lifeboats that actually works. However, a man wearing the uniform of a crew member points at you and yells at you. He is demanding that you get up out of your seat.

He says, "There aren't enough seats for everyone. Women and children first!"

You look over his shoulder and see a woman waiting for you to get up. You tell him to go fuck himself, and refuse to give up your seat. You assert that your life is just as valuable as hers and since you got to the seat first, the seat is rightfully yours. The man waves some of his fellow crew mates over to you and they forcefully remove you from the lifeboat. As soon as your seat becomes available, the woman sits in it without hesitation.

The notion that she has priority to that seat has been ingrained into her since childhood. She feels entitled to that seat and whether or not your life is more valuable never even crosses her mind. The fact that you are a professor at an Ivy League university and one of the most renowned physicists currently living and she is just a house wife is irrelevant. She is a woman.

Where feminism is primarily focused on female supremacy, traditionalism is focused on female superiority. Traditionalism is the other feminism. It's the gynocentric, white knight voice on the conservative side of politics and it’s the reason the ship's crew pulled you from the lifeboat. Traditionalism is the assertion that your life is less valuable than a woman and that it is your duty to consider yourself disposable. It is the pedestalization of women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_b8Gs6WoW0

>>735204101
Will u do the same for ur fellow man? No? Then ur only doing that for rewards. Also, lol, ur concerned about black people having sex with white women (picture)? It's fine, not all white women are "mine," and hell, I can go for some Latinas and Asians... western Latinas and Asians cause I don't need my ass kissed

>>735203689
Jesus.. It's like someone hacksawed the the bottom of his Y chromosome and bent it into an X.

You are no longer a man.
Zero sense of pride or concept of actual equality. I would say kys to benefit the species.but you'll likely never breed anyhow.

>>735204483
>implying you don't do it in exchange for a positive male identity.

>>735203689
Tits or GTFO

>>735204232
What "maidens" am I rescuing exactly? I am on some board with a bunch of whiney, ego-driven, and possibly racist dudes

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>>735203689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

>>735193694
Dream bride, wife who doesnt talk back

>>735204557
What did I do to stop being a man? Just say "The world doesn't owe me?" Besides, I take pride in what I do, not what I am

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>>735204724
> "possibly racist"
> "possibly"

Jesus fuck, how new are you!?

>>735204882
Agreed, I was meaning to say some are and some aren't. My bad. Also, yep, I don't often frequent 4chan. And that's a good thing

>>735190082
Asian women from Asia will care only for your money, or so it seems.

t. been in thailand and women are attracted to rich white western money like flies to shit

most of them whore themselves for money too so your "pure asian" stereotype goes down the drain..

>>735204868
And what DO you do?
Share with us your grand accomplishments so that we may bask in the light of what defines your being.
So far.. Shitposting on /b/ doesn't bode well.

>>735205032
Yea, ur right, it was just something to do to pass the time. Good grief

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>>735203689
>>735204868
In modern parlance, the word cuck no longer means a husband of an unfaithful wife. It means "someone who doesn't realize that he is advocating for something that is against his own interest."

You have a slave's mentality. Your entire self esteem is based upon how well you can serve thanklessly.

holy fuck check this
>i̶f̶u̶c̶k̶t̶o̶n̶i̶g̶h̶t̶.c̶o̶m̶

>>735195710

>drops major shekels for a pure asian waifu
>still gets cucked by a nigga

wew big fella

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>>735205385
>> That. Fucking. Picture.

This is a huge part of why the west is in decay.

>>735205385
I. Don't. Do. Things. For. A. Pat. On. The. Head.

That means I don't take pride in "being a good boy" as u put it.

>>735204868
This is how I can tell that you're female.
A man IS what he does.

Women are inherently valuable for their wombs, because the number of wombs within a community is the bottleneck for replacing fallen soldiers. This is where the "women and children first" standard comes from.

Men are not inherently valuable. The only thing that makes a man valuable to a community are the actions he is able to perform that women are either unwilling or physically unable to perform.

This is why a man is asked, "So, anon, what do you do?" after he is introduced to a group of people at a social event. What he does, i.e. his profession, is directly tied to his value as a human being.

If you were a man you would know this already.

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>>735205796
Truth.

>>735198489
Hey I remember you. How old are you? You're a lucky dude. Most Thais don't look like that, but you scored a model.

>>735190082
Grad school brotha.

>>735195209
Someone hurt you, huh. Poor lil faggot...keep being strong with your retarded logic. We all need something to believe in.

>>735205796
#rekt

>>735204868
Tits or get the fuck out

>>735205796
Women have professions too. And I simply don't see the world as a mountain of skulls where people fuck, be born, kill, and get replaced by their sons in a game of endless "you killed my father and I'm out for revenge!"

There is no way I can prove to u I'm who I say I am. I simply express my masculinity in the form of logic, understanding, and self-discipline over the antiquated "crush it enemies in a fit of fury" masculinity that is no longer required in this world

I've some girl friends who met guys happily on worldfriends, 2 are married now. It has a free service too from what I know. Korea/jpfag, so not girls that need your western 'help', far from it. A good amount love exotic guys.

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>>735201258
>Have qt3.14 quarter asian-american.
>Virgin before me, but for some reason has huge submissive streak.
>Tells me her fantasy is for me to use her to get off.
>Super obsessed and dependent on me.
>Would never cheat in a million lifetimes.
>Mfw

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>>735206348
Women are not weaker than men. Physical strength is only one attribute of many attributes. Emotional intelligence is another attribute and being able to use it to manipulate others effectively is a form of strength.

The fact that men have evolved into a state where they have larger muscles than women is actually evidence of women being able to dominate men. They dominate men by manipulating men into turning over the fruits of their labor to women and they accomplish this feat rather easily. Women have no need for muscles when they can just get a man to perform menial tasks for them. Your larger muscles are evidence of your forefathers having been emotionally dominated by a woman who manipulated him into volunteering to be her drone.

Allow me to put this concept into terms to which you can relate.

When you play a summoner in an RPG and you use your summoned creature to kill the enemies you encounter in the game environment while you hang back at a relatively safe distance, do you give credit for those kills to the creature you summoned? Of course not. You consider every creature your summoned creature killed for you your kill and you don't even question that you deserve the experience points. The summoned creature who actually did the killing for you is just a drone.

Getting a man to do something for her is as easy for a woman as it is for you to press the #3 key on your keyboard to summon a creature in an RPG. That isn't weakness. It is a very strong capability.

Traditional women are a very real danger to men. You're literally jumping up and down, hoping for an opportunity to come to the service of a woman and all she has to do to get your service is damsel.
You're a tool. A useful idiot.

>>735205796
Also, that's the thing, u reduce human beings to mere intruments. Men as instruments of war, women as instruments of reproduction. It's ultimate objectification. Not even of just sexuality. Just the idea that humans are there to be used one way or another

>>735206619
What the hell kind of women do u have in ur life? As if women haven't done anything unrelated to sex for me. FYI, women don't like yes men, they're very boring and dishonest (they just say yes in the hopes of getting sex, too concerned about outcome

>>735201016
Damn she's hot

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>>735206623
You're ignoring the counter arguments to your position.

>>735203502
>>735204801

One of the rules of this place is, lurk moar. It's never enough.

If you followed that rule you would be more familiar with why this community is anti-feminist.

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>>735206348
> not realizing the battle never ended
> clearly hasn't been in business

"Professional" women are a fucking joke.
They cannot do most jobs nearly as well as men, and some jobs not at all.
They cry about geneal wage inequality, but won't enter fields that pay enough to bridge that gap.
If a man in industry fron lines works his way up through long hours and applying himself, the woman in the office cries out that her secretary role should be paid just as well.
It's absurd the level of entitlement women feel they are due.

The moment their vaginas can be replaced by either robotics/genetics/synthetic uteri.. Man will discard the notion of tolerating their bullshit. They literally get away with today's behaviour because the species needs their biology to survive.
Nothing else of value is on the table from women beyond that these days.

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>>735206619
>> That level of delusion.

This weeb comparing RPG and Evolution is stunning. Clearly the cancer is too deep to recover this one lads.

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>>735201016
Cannot unsee.

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>>735207880
Rather than logically argue against the merits of his points, you used an emotion argument to shame the man making those points