>>Trumps travel ban fails in court because he said it's

he's sabotaging it and riling up his base so that when it fails he can use the milliary to forcibly dismantle the supreme court

>>734987173
Are you literally retarded theboresident has explicit athaurityto ban anyone foreign aliens for any reason.

It's literally right there in federal code

The judges are being activist fuckheads sighting that it's a Muslim ban based on comments about the order not about the order itself.

It's federal judges being completely out of control and the Supreme Court will overturn such a redicoulous ruling.

>it's illegal to stop people from entering the nation

Please fagget that's just retarded

That being said however, I do like this check on executive power on a more general sense

>>734987386
>Dismantling eh Supreme Court

Even though it favors him currently?

>>734987478
Like that fucking ever mattered to him. Even if that were the case, he is too stupid to understand it as such.

>>734987478
still the biggest check on his power

>>734987417

>Are you literally retarded theboresident has explicit athaurityto ban anyone foreign aliens for any reason.
>theboresident
>athaurityto

Small hands, Donald?

>>734987417
>>734987417
Is that you Mr. Orange?

>>734987691

>trumps such an idiot
>he's a multi billionaire
>has heslthy well adjusted kids
>beat the most anointed person to ever run for president and wrhbhalf the money
>he's stupid

And I'm sure youareverysmart.jpeg

>>734987732
Okay? You really think trumps going to become king lol! I've been hearing those conspiracies since Reagan

>>734987759
Covfefe

>>734987386
>use the military to forcibly dismantle the supreme court

you don't have a fucking clue, do you bro?

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>>734987417

>The judges are being activist fuckheads sighting that it's a Muslim ban based on comments about the order not about the order itself.

Yeah, why would the intention behind an order matter?

>It's federal judges being completely out of control and the Supreme Court will overturn such a redicoulous ruling.

No, they are just making sure orange sphincter doesn't get out of control.

The Trump presidency ends on Thursday anyway.

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>>734987973

>>has heslthy well adjusted kids

Yeah, no.

>>734987913
lol I didn't even vote for trump you people are just mega stupid because it's wel within the legal authority of the executive to institute a travel ban

>>734988033
>insinuating intent off circumstantial evidence
>no proof that was indeed the intent just the judges perception of things
>even if it was bad intent it's stil entirely legal

>>734988117
What's wrong with them they all are rich, married and have families of their own?

>>734987973
>thinking that Donald Fucking Trump is a smart person.

I can not think of words to describe how stupid you are.

>I was given a small loan of a million dollars.
>It was 17 million.

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>>734988147

>>no proof that was indeed the intent just the judges perception of things

It's on fucking tape, dipshit.

>>734988270
>judging the executive order based off of informal comments
>not the content of the order itself

You don't get how things work do you?

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>>734988242
>imverysmart.jpeg

I'm sure you could and 17 million and do what he's done, no problem piece of cake right!

Fools are always so sure of themselves

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>>734987173
Well, he's being honest, a quality you don't find in politicians very often. Probably because he isn't a politician.

>>734988436
kys

>>734987173
He's tired of trying to appease an unpleasant & unrealistic group of people. Playing with words like Obama did will not get any of us ahead....immigrants need the USA the USA does not need any more immigrants.....the globalist cries of needing more immigrants is a complete and groundless lie....like japan "needs" immigrants because it has old people? Good grief....

If the first world needs immigrants so bad, why are the third world shitholes so bad?

>>734987973
only someone dumber than that shitbag thinks he's a smart man.

he's a poor man's idea of a rich man
a dumb man's idea of a smart man
a terrible dad's idea of a good father
a dishonest guy's idea of an honest man
and a complete shithead's idea of a moral man

so there you go you poor, dumb, terrible, dishonest shitbag.

>>734988436

>I'm sure you could and 17 million and do what he's done, no problem piece of cake right!

Do you dumb shit actually believe he made those billions out of the 17 million, you mouthbreather? He inherited daddy's cash aswell. Also how did the smart guy manage to go bankrupt with a fucking Casino and lose 1,000,000,000$?

>>734988620
Yeah this.

>>734988436
seriously kys

>>734987417

Federal law doesn't overrule the constitution, idiot. Two different court circuits, one liberal, one conservative, have both ruled against this ban - and yes - Trumps comments on the act are absolutely relevant in determining the orders constitutionality.

Considering both the 4th and 9th circuit courts have ruled against it, I'd be surprised if the supreme court even took the case.

>>734988358
Sorry that discriminating religions is against the constitution. He implicitly stated he was banning Muslims during the campaign, which is unfortunately relevant to the current order. It's not as though there's some rule that things you said are magically gone because you're not implicitly stating them now.

We would be better off with no religion or religious protections at all, so conservative cocksuckers couldn't pass their religious freedom laws either. But we're in America, so oh well.

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>>734988650

All these straw men

He's the president and you are a piece of shit that will amount to nothing and he will be for probably 8 years because the Democratic Party is full of hysterical retarded fags like yourself

So good job idiot

>>734988965
>>734988970

Please tell me how preventing a group for any reason is unconstitutional?

Nobody is probibiting the practice of Islam

>>734988496

>he's being honest

Like the times when he claimed to have seen things that no one else could see? Or like the time when he pretended to be someone else on the phone to brag about himself? Or when he denied having said things that had been recorded by five different camera crews?

>>734989024
>He tricked a bunch of dumb people, and got help from his daddy Putin. That makes him a smart man, and a good leader.

kys you fucking inbred fuck.

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>>734989024

>He's the president and you are a piece of shit that will amount to nothing and he will be for probably 8 years

His presidency is comeying to an end.

>>734989265
>what hysteria leftists actually believe

Enjoy your 8 years, next time vote libertarian instead of for a corporate party.

If this really gets you so upset take a break from politics. It's all just a game m8!

>>734987973
donald trump is a dipshit par-extraordinaire

that's high-class for "Duhnald sux major dongs alldayeeryday"

>>734989372
Even if comey says trump grabbed him by the dick and demanded an end to the investigation you wouldn't get 2/3 of the senate to remove trump from office

This is literally a big witch hunt that will go nowhere and you are foolish for believing the kabuki theater

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>>734989563
We'll put

>>734989439
I know that it is really hard to admit you made a mistake, but it is time to do that.

Donald Trump is not a good president, and if you think that he is than you are probably seriously retarded.

>>734989599
how about we remove 2/3 of the Senate :O

>>734988033
>the Trump presidency ends on Thursday anyway

Said everyone every week since he won the election.

Just give Americans the right to national permitless CCW. People will be praying for terrorist attacks to blast browns then go fuck their wife after dinner at outback steakhouse.

>>734989675
Please do I would love to see that

>>734989657
Actually I'd say he's doing about average so far and he'll bennifit from the econemy improving.

Realistically the only we he's gone in 4 years is if we go into a recession. That's probably your best hope

>>734988436

i've never filed for bankruptcy.
i've never filed for bankruptcy four times.
i've never had a tax lien (much less more than three dozen)
i've never been accused of sexual harassment
i've never been accused of racism by the justice department
i've never been accused of having mob ties

yourboyisapieceoffuckingtrash.jpeg

>>734989599
Yeah the circumstantial evidence is only up to his fucking eyeballs.

What would it fucking take for you to think that maybe there is something there?

>>734989100

If it's targeted as Muslims specifically it violates the Equal Protections clause. Both courts determined this was the case.

Please explain why you think you know better than both the conservative 4th circuit and liberal 9th circuit courts?

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>>734989773
>Actually I'd say he's doing about average so far

>>734989024
he's not a good leader... fuck man, he's not even a good reader.

>>734989100
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is a good place to start.

It was enacted after the 1952 law that stated that the president had the ability to 'suspend the entry' of 'any class of aliens' that he finds are detrimental to the interest of the United States, which has largely been the basis of the ban.

tl;dr: He doesn't have as much discretion as he claims he does.

>>734989860
Actually if you did more than read headlines there is basically nothing there all the testimonies on the hill repeat that so far.

The entire concept of Russia having that much of an effect on our election is laughable, they had far more influence back in the ussr days when they were actullay powerfull.

You are literally falling for stupid scare tactics my friend

>>734989967
And why do you think he isn't?

>>734990016
He's a bad leader because......why? And compared to who? The last three "leaders" we had?

>>734989893
>legal oppinions
>right or wrong

Top kek you are a moron

>>734990137
No im taking about the federal code and I can't remember the actual code off the top of my head

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>>734990137
He's getting people pissed. We're close to a constitutional convention. But not the kind liberals want. The kind that have the Constitution rewritten to fix the hurdles you are taking about.

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>>734987173
immigration

>>734990459
politics in one image

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>>734990576

>>734990355
My god... Like your really that fucking dumb huh?

It's almost impressive.

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>>734990641

Talking about him everyday just goes to show that hes still winning.
Keep inflating his ego.

>>734990355

Being called a moron by someone who can't even type properly is the height of hilarity.

You asked "Please tell me how preventing a group for any reason is unconstitutional?" which refers to a legal opinion, and I've pointed out that even courts that traditionally support your side have ruled against it, saying it "Drips with religious intolerance".

Unless you can explain why they are wrong I'm just going to assume you're another mindless Trump supporter who would thank him for pissing on you.

>>734990711
I think a guy who financed the building of planes on TV is perfectly qualified to fly a plane.

>>734990711
That one is going in my dank ass trump meme folder.

>>734990518

Conservative "logic": "The Constitution is the most sacred of documents unless we can change it to do things that Liberals won't like!"

Laughable.

>>734990355
You're trying to say he can do it under
>8 U.S. Code § 1185 - Travel control of citizens and aliens

But you're wrong. He can't break one law because of another. The provisions of the 1965 act are still law and he is bound by them, as he is bound to the constitution.

>>734990355
it has nothing to do with the effectiveness of their interference.

if he or his people intended on assisting a foreign enemy in interfering (success is irrelevant) then, he is a treasonous faggot.

>>734990576
>international law

Hahaha oh please grow up

>>734990632
Very true

>>734990694
>if you don't come to the same conclusions as me you are dumb

Enjoy the next 7.5 years pal

>>734990743
Because preventing some Muslims form some Muslim countries that are already on the nsa's list for state sponsors of ....Muslim terrorism... doesn't constitute a violation of the nonestablishment clause of the first amendment

In my oppinion. I guess we get to see what the scotus thinks

>>734990960
1. Thats not treason, we aren't at war with Russia
2. It probably didn't happen based on what's been found or so far

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>>734990967
If you come to a dumb conclusion, you are dumb.

God your dumbness knows no bounds.

Please sir. Consider killing yourself. Please.

>>734990967
>I guess we get to see what the scotus thinks

Unless they don't take the case, which is what many are expecting as they rarely take cases that have been shot down in multiple lower courts.

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>>734991113
That would show us what they think wouldn't it?

>>734991099
Whatever helps you sleep at night bud

>>734987173
codename agent orange
russian sleeper agent

>>734991081
So succinct, so on the nose. I'm gonna save this image.

>>734990518
Good, go ahead and remove religious protections. I'm tired of fucking Christians and their dipshit religious freedom laws anyways.

Also, that shit isn't going to happen. Stop reading republihype blogs, republicans aren't going to do that.

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TRUMP is hurt during handshake with french president.

>pulls out of paris

Is literally a child

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>>734991244

>>734991244
>>734991288
witnessed

>>734987173
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>>734991373
ur a faget

>>734991281
Knowing that you were not out there in the world making babies and stuff would definitely help me sleep.

please kill yourself.

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>>734991339
waiting for that boredom...

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>>734991081
Medicare and social security shouldn't exsist

Poor daggers can go die, you want to feed them, feed them, quit making me do it

>>734989811
For the first 3 points, you would need an education in risk management and risk financing toundersyand what you think you're pointing out. Specifically speculative risk. Not jabbing, it's just an odd concept until you learn.

For the next 3, who the fuck cares?

>Baseless accusations

You're a racist, anon. There you go: one down, 2 to go.

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>>734991433

>>734991433
Turn off the tv go for a walk

It's a nice summer day

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>>734991507

>>734991586
keep posting man, there are funny as hell
>in a sad way

>>734991438
*sigh*

People in this world make me sad sometimes.

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>>734991438

>>734991411
>>734991433
>>734991677
witnessed

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>>734991586
What if you uncovered a Watergate level scandal about your own presidency, but then 30 minutes later you got bored and started tweeting about reality TV...

>>734991684
Please explain the morality of taking form Innocent people to give to other people by force ?

>>734991512
It really has been beautiful outside recently. Everyone here should go for a walk at least every week imo. It's a good way to chill out after fighting in these b8 threads.

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>>734991872
>watergate level

Not close by a long shot until trump is covering up literal illegal wiretapping of the dnc campaign headquarters and then tampering with evidence requested by a congressional inquiry

>>734991919
There is a thing called society. It is actually very important that we take care of it.

I'm surprised that you did not know this.

>>734988033
>The Trump presidency ends on Thursday anyway.

Care to elaborate on that?

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>>734992046

>>734992163
And why can't that be done through voluntary interaction ?

To wrongs don't make a right, Didn't your mom teach you that anon!

>>734987173
>pisses against the wind to satisfy his ego
It's called telling the truth, something only a man with balls is capable of. You're fucking lucky to have him.

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>>734987386
THe military is sworn to the constitution not the potus if the potus does something againsy the law of the land he is violating the laws he swore to uphold. Good try.

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>>734992241
Come is going to go on front of congress and say trump said to him "I hope you can let this Russia thing go I think Flynn is a good guy"

And hysterical fools think that constitutes obstruction of justice but comey already said he didn't think it was obstruction of justice

So it's nothing like all this Russia shit. A bunch of nothing and a big wast of all our time and money per usual

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Massively-reked-and-still-crying!

>>734987173
In a way, I'm actually happy with the Trump presidency so far. He's shown such utter contempt and impatience with the most basic, fundamental aspects of how our government works (eg. checks and balances, separation of powers, limits of presidential authority). He's tried to run the White House like one of his businesses, that is, like a dictatorship. But he's been thwarted at every step. It proves that our democratic institutions are stronger than some pathetic little wannabe despot. For all the shit the system takes from the People, it actually works a lot better than we give it credit for.

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>>734992258
So we should not have schools? police stations are not necessary?

>>734992422
>comey already said he didn't think it was obstruction of justice
Source?

>>734992518
>implying that can't be done privately

I'm being obstuse but you get my point eh?

>also schools and police are done locally and have literally 0 to do with federal politics

>>734992584
The news today

>>734991373
when all of ur arguments in favor of trump have been dismantled BY TRUMP HIMSELF so u resort to calling people who don't support trump faggots

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>>734992476
not a bad observation...

just that little part about how the person that received the most votes didn't win. (but trump claims winning the electoral college is hard for republicans)

>>734991586
As long as you understand that Trump is actually tracking to play about 25% less golf than Obama, who averaged more than a round/week while taxpayers footed the bill.

>>734992258
It is voluntary. You voluntarily live in this country. You voluntarily enjoy the benefits of living under a stable, functional government. If you don't like the way the government functions, you're free to leave at any time or participate in the political process to effect some kind of change or improvement.

>>734992679
I'm looking for a specific link. If you can't provide one, I'll have to assume you're either lying or don't know what you're talking about.

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>>734991586

Cannot wait to learn how the Russians tricked experienced democratic leaders like Hillary into storing classified documents on her home brew server! And how did Putin trick Donna Brazil into passing those debate questions to Hillary?
Scary how good those Russians are...

>>734992716
It's not as though the system is perfect. There's definitely room for improvement.

>>734992453
are u really that stupid? u think this is about liberals feeling sad that they lost the election? watch the FUCKING news. trump isn't just destroying this country, he's destroying his own fucking administration. Not only that, but he's slowly turning almost all of our allies against us and obliterating america's reputation as a global superpower.

That bitch

>>734987417
Except in its current implementation it is not in fact, constitutional.

Not to mention the ban itself is pretty fucking shady since he's only put on half of the problematic Middle Eastern countries anyways. It's more virtue signalling than anything.

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>>734992765
>you voluntarily live in the country

I never made that decision

>>734992831
Pic related

Learn to Google asshole

>>734992965
See now there's somebody who knows how to talk

I agree the ban is stupid but that doesn't make it illegal.

All this talk over weather it's technically legal when it should be about weather we should do it based on principle

>>734992746
lol, how do you function in the actual world?!

>>734992679
I get that you republican fucking faggots don't give a fuck about people who are less fortunate than you, but it benefits you to help them anyway. It benefits you in the form of a safer country. It benefits you in the form of boosting your economy, because there are more people who can contribute more. You are an adult right? Why do you not understand this yet?

>>734993010
You make that decision every day you remain here. You are free to leave at any time. No one is forcing you to stay.

>>734987173
>Is this guy literally retarded?

Are you really asking? Didn't you americunts figured out already that you elected the biggest retard on the planet and the entire world is laughing at you?

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>>734993130
Right?? Who cares if what the government is doing is legal or not? They should be making decisions based on principles, not laws!

>>734992746
U, my friend, are the biggest fucking idiot in the entire fucking world. i sincerely hope u remain a virgin ur entire life so that u can never spread ur fucking genes to the next generation

>>734993286
i'm sure you're not american...

>>734992422
>>734993010
I don't think Comey said he didn't think it was obstruction of justice. I think
>the news
simply said that he would not say whether or not it was obstruction of justice, that he would stop short of commenting on that.

For being able to Google so well, you sure don't read.

>>734993010
Sounds like Comey knows hows to choose his words carefully.

>I don't think the President committed obstruction of justice

>I won't accuse the President of obstruction of justice

If you can't see the nuance in those two phrases, then you're too fucking stupid to be participating in this conversation.

>>734993286
Right go ahead an say your countries name. No retards there right?

>>734987173
Pointless conjecture thread

>>734993412
I spred muh jeans in ur mum

>posting on your level

>>734992369
To be fair Melania is costing taxpayers between 126K and 147K per day to stay in New York.

But that's still a colossal waste of taxpayers money and should be a scandal, looks like they get a pass because they are white...

>>734993659
atleast they don't elect their idiots?

>>734993010
do you actually believe the headline of a story that is impossible to confirm?

Also, who thought he was going to accuse him directly of obstructing justice?

>>734993659

Netherlands

Sure we have retards, much less than you to be honest, also we don't put them in charge of the country

>>734994093
mhmm, just love coming to 4chan and trolling american political discussion..

fucking imbecile.

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>>734994247
this guy lol

>>734994247
who's trolling? Are you really so delusional that you don't get how fuckin retarded your president is?
You really think you're not the international punchline?

>fucking imbecile

now that you make think about it, a retarded president fits perfectly for a retarded country

>>734993411
It's a stupid discussion because it's not illegal

>>734987173
>speaks the truth instead of kike law tricks
once again Trump is the hero we need, but don't deserve.

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>>734994710
This is the guy? This is your hero?

Your a sad little fucker.

>>734994093
Hahaha really? So how's the Muslim rape train? Still choose going strong and see.

>>734994512
It was found to violate the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which explicitly prohibits discrimination based on nationality when it comes to immigration.

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>the liberal memes in this thread
Sad!

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>>734995448
Are you a conservative? because that is really fucking sad.

>>734994889
>your

If you want to insult someone, it helps to have at least a grade 3 understanding of the language you are insulting in.

>>734987173
Everything you hear about this argument is weighted. Every single time the news mentions it, they always say "six MUSLIM MAJORITY countries". They never just say "six countries" and they never mention the 40+ majority muslim countries that aren't affected by the ban. They want you to think of it as an attack on all muslims, and don't want you to think about the fact that over 80% of muslim countries aren't affected by it.

If it was a ban on all muslims, why only 6 countries?

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>>734996026
If you want to make a comeback, you'll have to think of something better than pointing out a minor grammatical mistake.

>>734996026
You're mom is a whore. And your a little faggot, who idolizes someone who says he gives a fuck about you In spite of that fact that it is painfully obvious that he does not.

>>734987386
Stop thinking he's a mad genius. He's an old man with dementia who says outrageous things because he grew up during the crusades. He's yet to do anything half way competent since his term started.

>>734996217
You don't have to be racist to all black people to be racist. Usually just one or two is enough. Same here.

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>>734994889
>billionaire who could ignore the problems of the world, and live a life a complete luxury
>sees that America is in serious decline
>Islamic terrorism slowly flooding the West and asserting dominance, while no world leader will admit it for fear of being accused of bigotry
>US interventionism weakens us and America alone pays the cost of being the World's police
>One-sided globalist trade deals, mean all manufacturing leaves the U.S., in return for cheap foreign crap
>Nobody in Washington even attempts to enforce the southern border despite promising to do so for decades, now even mentioning enforcing the border is considered racist.
>Trump sees all this and decides instead to spend millions of dollars self-funding his own campaign against both major political parties, so that no one can own him, and he can fight against America's problems honestly rather than being controlled.
Yes. He's a great man. I'm glad I voted for him.

>>734996609
Oh please be a troll. It don't even fucking matter if you are or not! there are people in this country who think this. A lot of them. It's fucking depressing.

>Never underestimate American stupidity

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>>734996279
>someone who says he gives a fuck about you In spite of that fact that it is painfully obvious that he does not
>he doesn't care, despite spending millions of his own money, and becoming one of the most reviled men in the world for speaking the truth about the West's problems, when he could have just happily continues his life as a billionaire playboy for the rest of his days.

Really makes me think.

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>>734996951

>>734996609
>Other countries get manufacturing jobs
>We get cheaper consumer goods

Yeah, "one-sided".

>>734997073
Yeah. Because he did that because he cares about the american people, and not because of his fucking ego.

You are fucking retarded.

>>734997184
Yeah, because i'm gonna waist my time trying to explain why you are an idiot. my time is much better spent just calling you an idiot.

You fucking idiot.

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>>734987173
Trump is playing 4D chess. The travel ban is just a bait.

>>734996609
>America alone pays the cost of being the World's police

Would you prefer it if some other country played that role? Like China? Or Russia? Do you think that they have the economic strength, the power-projection capability, or the moral authority to carry out such a task?

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>>734997273
interesting hypothesis.
please assert evidence.

>>734997454
Guess I win.

>>734997533
Bait for what?

>>734997634
I really need to prove to you that Donald Trump has an ego?

>>734997634
Sure you do kid.

I'm running out of ways to call you fucking stupid.

You fucking stupid idiot.

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>>734997612
>It's good that we go bankrupt fighting pointless endless tribal wars across the planet, because if we didn't Russia would do it, and if we do it we're good, but if they do it, they're bad.
Oh sweetie.

>>734996609
>Islamic terrorism slowly flooding the West and asserting dominance

Asserting dominance how? By occasionally crashing into crowds of people with moving vans? If that's enough to frighten you, then I'm certainly glad you're not running for office.

>>734993010
What the fuck, charge your phone!

>>734997612

what the actual fuck son.
Did it actually occur to you there need NOT be a world police?

Im not from the US btw

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>>734997829
>U R dumb
dang. guess I'm wrekt.
I'll just have to live knowing that I was wrong voting for le Prumpf into the White House.

>>734997929
Yeah. This.

Do you have any idea how fucking unlikely you are to die at the hands of a terrorist?

Why are we not banning automobiles? People die in car accidents every fucking day. a lot of them actually.

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>>734997929
>you just have to accept foreigners coming into your country and running you over by the dozen
and people wonder why someone who argues against this retarded capitulation won an election.
I'll never understand this level of weakness.

>>734994710
No, he's the hero you don't need but *do* deserve...because you voted for him.

>>734998048
>>734998048
Retard.

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>>734997667
It was a bait for liberals to protest and MSM to broadcast it. Most Americans agree with the travel ban to keep America safe.

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>>734998200
holy shit, you're an idiot.
Give me one benefit to letting in millions of shitskins, illiterate in their own language, who hold an ideology that calls for my death.

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>>734998283
Dummy

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>>734998239
>frightened children.

>>734997843
Do you really think that's the extent of America's role as a global military power? I agree that our strategy in fighting Islamic terrorism is flawed, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

What about protecting international shipping lanes from piracy or interdiction?

What about deterring larger, more powerful nations from bullying their weaker neighbors (see: Russia and the Baltic States, China and the South China Sea)

Even though we've been stretched thin, the threat of American military intervention has discouraged many other countries from utilizing military force from accomplishing their geopolitical goals. That's not some patriotic, hurr-durr pro-US rhetoric. It's a basic fact of international relations. Maybe you should think about who might take over that role before you start talking about an isolationist US.

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>>734998587
>weak faggot

>>734998025
See
>>734998630

>>734998421
Those people are dying. If we let them come they will not die... Thought that was obvious. i guess not to your fucking stupid dumb ass dicksfuck!

>>734998543
Nigger.

>>734998239
I'm not arguing that nothing should be done. People who enter a country as refugees should be made to follow its laws. I'm simply questioning OP's use of the words "asserting their dominance". I'm sorry if that upsets you.

>>734998695
>cunt pickle

>>734987173
Hillary voter here.

I regret my Goddess fucking with the Republican nominations and corralling them into choosing Trump.

There were more moderate Republitards that would have been much more acceptable, but we done goofed and brought this on ourselves.

Now our Goddess has abandoned us and is blaming us, rightly so.

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>>734987173
I don't think he's retarded but he's either going senile or he fried too many brain cells snorting the finest white off 13 year old asses. Watch his interviews on the howard stern show; he was never articulate but he now he's just burnt out.

>>734998294
Okay... so he baits people into protesting, and then what?

>>734998630
Not arguing for isolationism
Just an end to endless wars which do more harm than good at the cost of American blood and taxes.

Mutual defense treaties and standing against aggression of other nations is a good thing, but those other nations should help shoulder the burden. Like two other nations out of dozens pay the amount they promised they would pay into NATO. No one else does shit, and we haven't complained in decades, so it just comes down to the US promising defend everyone else at any cost, which is a bad deal.

It's not even a controversial position.

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>>734998294
>most americans
lol according to reputable sources like Brietbart? Bitch plz

shareblue go

>>734987173
we need
to stop
muslim
immigration

>>734998809
literally let them die, double Nigger
>>734998863
don't even let them in. it just causes us problems, and we gain nothing. Why do we care about random niggers dying across the globe? muh humanity. let them fix their own problems.

Just look at Africa, as soon as European aid stops they start starving in the millions, but when you give them aid, they just multiply like crazy, and make everything worse.

You can't solve all the world's problems. They have to fix their own problems.

>>734999773
>let them die
Wow. Edgy as fuck.

>>734994437
nah, fool. he's fucking retarded. and it hurts to look in the mirror and see how fucking retarded we must actually be to elect a known clown.

i'm just saying you're a liar and not from the netherlands. i think you're as american as the rest of us. so fuck off.

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>>734999773
funny, the Trumpster seems to care

>>734998630
i agree but i have the opposite conclusion. An isolationist america is exactly what we need right precisely BECAUSE everything you said is undeniably true, but everyone denies it anyways.
The world needs to see what the world looks like when americans arent dying to protect it. Or when america is the only member of a trade agreement not engaging in protectionism. When america sacrifices relationships with powerful nations to protect weaker ones. When american sailors see a non-US boat in trouble and just keep sailing.

Let's see what happens to the plane when america takes its hands off the stick. At least long enough for people to see what the alternative is.

>>734999328
We haven't complained because even if most of our allies aren't paying the 2% of their GDP into defense, the benefit we get out of these treaties is a fucking bargain.

-Global power projection capability
-Military access to dozens of countries
-Markets for weapons and other military equipment
-Multiple opportunities per year for joint military exercises
-Dozens of developed countries who are obliged to come to our defense if we're ever attacked (provided we're willing to do the same)

It sounds like we agree on basically everything else.

>>734999647
oh don't pretend like you really care where the immigrant comes from or what they worship. Admit you want them all out.

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>>734999884
>I'm gonna save the whole world, no matter the cost, even if the people I save turn around and alhahu ackbomb me
>no one will ever die again, because I can't stand the idea of anyone anywhere suffering, even though it's an inevitable part of life.

>>735000124
You say that like it'll be super easy to take the stick back after we've given it up. Once people start to lose faith in an internationalist America, it won't be long before we see the subsequent consequences in the international system that will be very, VERY hard to reverse.

>>735000324
Go be 12 somewhere else.

>>734987973
Literally ANYBODY in the world can make become incredibly wealthy if they inherit lots of money and real estate.

If you gave a bum on the side of the street a couple million dollars and some properties they will grow that wealth and become incredibly wealthy.

"hurr durr it's the person not the circumstance, poor people will be poor because they are stupid and rich people are rich because they are smart and innovative"
No.
Wrong.
This is a lie perpetuated through pop culture and media and simply untrue. It's a way to keep "the middle class" feeling righteous about themselves and holding the rich/elite on a pedestal because some day their hard work will pay off and they will be rich too. NOT.

>>734987386

Found the autistic marine, go eat some crayons and shoo

>>735000482
I don't know what the fuck i was just thinking just now, but i was about to try to explain why exactly that was a retarded thing to say. Then i saw what you said, and that was all that needed to be said.

>>735000482
take a rope, tie it around your neck really tight, tie the other end to something heavier than you, and then jump out a window.

>>734999773
It's not as simple as just not letting them in. If you don't let them in, then they'll sneak in. Then you have a shitload of undocumented immigrants whose movements and activities are much harder to keep track of.

If you close off your borders completely, then they'll start sneaking across the borders of your neighboring countries. And that'll be a big headache for your Ministry of Foreign Affairs or State Department or whatever when they start asking why the fuck you're not helping with this refugee problem.

>>735000586
Yeah. What this guy said.

Humans are a product of there environment. It's amazing how few people know this.

>>734987173
i dont fucking understand why its not okay to dissallow people with specific ideologies from immagrating. like if there where common philosophical doctrine in england to kill as many people as possible for not fucking enough babies in other countries we wouldnt let them come over, would we?

>>735000729
>>735000729
>>735000729
Wow. Salty as fuck.

>>734997533
yeah he's like a smart guy.

>>734991438

hahahahahahaha you're probably one of those poorfags in the white welfare states

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>>735000832
>it's hard to keep ppl out so do nothing
k.

>>734987173
Yeah that'd be tarded except that's not what happened at all.

>>734998809
>Those people are dying.
this is a lie.
most of the "refugees" are from countries not at war, like moroco. Also Europe and the United States are not the closest safe country. They could go to saudi arabia, israel, or turkey.
your entire premise for justifying unprecedented spikes in violant and sexual crime, burdening welfare systems, and letting in millions of socially conservative voters is based on something which is demonstrably not true. something I suspect you already, deep down, knew.

now behold as absolutely none of it changes your mind, and you are confused or even annoyed I'd bring this up.

>>735001114
Did I say we should do nothing? No. Don't fucking put words in my mouth, shitbrain.

>>735001188
>this is a lie.

That's all i'm gonna bother reading of your stupid bullshit.

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>>735001266
>>735001277
I hope Trump deports you all.

>>735001444
Nice trips queer.

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>>734987973
If I inherited hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property from my daddy, like Trump did, you can be damn sure I'd do more with it that the spray-tanned retard.

>>735001188
Morocco isn't at war, but it is governed by an autocratic regime. People fleeing government persecution still fit the definition of "refugee".

>>734992965

He didn't pick anything. All of the 7 countries were chosen by Obama. Trump is just implementing what the Obama admin started.

>>734992965
Oh I see so it's not actually a muslim ban then since 85% of majority muslim countries are not on it.

Thanks for clearing that up.

>>735001188
>They could go to saudi arabia, israel, or turkey
Both Israel and Turkey have, in fact, taken in large numbers of refugees. It's actually been a point of contention between Turkey and the EU since Turkey has taken in shitloads of asylum seekers while the EU countries have taken in relatively few. Saudi Arabia is not a party to the 1951 Refugee Convention, so that's not really a good choice for people seeking asylum.

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>>735001653
no you wouldn't.

Also Fred Trump was worth $200 million when he died in 1999. By that time, Donald Trump was already incredibly wealthy by virtue of his own businesses, and his father's wealth was divided between Donald Trump and his four other siblings, so Donald Trump didn't even inherit $50 million.

If you had $50 million you'd probably blow it on heroine and hookers. Donald Trump turned it into $6 billion with 2 decades.

>>734987173
Yes OP, he is literally retarded. The only form of heavier retardation are those that support him. It reminds me of something Obi-wan once asked...

>>735000186
holy shit
I hate this. This is the problem. You guys are either so paranoid or pednatic that you assume everyone is speaking with pretext. Do you? Is that how you speak? Do you mean some hidden message with every word you speak? Cuz that's not normal, and I'm not doing that.

Islam is social poison at best, and at worst ISIS and others is openly exploiting mass refugee systems to import recruiters into the west.
Even IF I had some sort of anti immigration agenda bubbling behind the scenes, by saying THIS point is "cover" is acknowledging that this is a legitimate issue. So quit trying to "getchya" and let's address this problem we both agree is a problem: Muslim Immigration.

>>735002355
yeah obviously America's right next door, and there are no other closer options.

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>>735002999
got trips and forgot my pic, sad.

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>>734992951
>watch the FUCKING news

There's your problem butt-hurt anon; your FUCKING news told you Hillary was on top.
You naïve loveable twit, so adorable that you continue to believe your MSM.

>>734987173
put the seatbelt on because you are in for a 7 year long ride

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>>734992951
>everything on TV is real

>>735003479
literally not staged

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>>734994889

He heroically mopped the field with your best.
You guys are just the worst crybabies.
Look in the mirror and say it.
"We lost."

Now stop with your pointless tantrums.

>>735003664
literally staged.

>>735000586
But that's not true look at lottery winners look at countless athletes or musicians that lose all their money in short time

>>735000852
I would say mostly yes but there are biological influences on a lot of traits that you cannot correct.

Overall things like intelligence, neuroticism, anger etc are biological and can only be effected so much by the enviroment.

Anybody can not be anybody under the right circumstances as some try to say.

That isn't true

What can be guided is tastes and other socially molded facets of your personality, of you are raised in a house that is very liberal and loves excersise and rap music you will like those things.


If you were born in Roman times you would love chariot racing and you wouldn't have an issue with slavery or genocide

That's the enviromentally efected stuff

>>735001065
Okay, I'm not

>>735001653

No wonder you commies want to steal from everybody. You think you are smarter than everyone else and therefore something is causing you to be poor.

But the sad truth is you are just an average fucker with low ambitions and a lot of avarice.

>>735004022
Reporters are regularly moved to the front of protests to get a good shot. Also no evidence to show that it was staged, only wrong interpretation. Stop being a right wing cuck

>>735004574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98rT3CoLi40
>this isn't staged

>>735004783
>>735004574

>>735002999
That's not the point. Other countries that are closer to the conflict zones have already taken in large numbers of refugees. The United States is, at least nominally, allied with many of those nations. If they want to maintain good relations with those countries, then they need to take their fair share of refugees as well.

>>735005282
>fair share of refugees

Lol how about no?

>>735004783
Well first of all, we need context on this video. Where was it taken? When?

It's really easy to show decontextualized images to people and tell them, "this is fake", "this is staged" and have them believe it if they lack critical thinking skills. But if you want to know the full story, you have to investigate further.

>>735005452
Okay, fine. Now your allies are angry at you because they're taking in shitloads of refugees and you're not doing shit to help.

But fuck them, right? Who needs allies?

>>735005583
This

>>735005653
>hey take some of these unassimilated immigrants that you have to pay for and 30% approve of jihadi and female genital mutilation and killing gays and 5% will actively try to subvert your nation or openly kill your citizens

With allies like that!

i'm so ready for comey to "grand stand" his way to impeaching the orange man from office due to obstruction of justice. we'll be bathing in "alt right tears" and they'll be claiming how oppressed they are like the little special snowflakes they are.

trump is stupid. full stop. he isn't smart enough to play the politics he's trying to play. that's his fatal flaw. he thinks he's smarter than he is. and his supporters think he's smart because they're just as dumb. good riddance

>>735005946
Assuming those numbers are even close to accurate and not pulled out of your ass, the host nations simply need to enforce their laws the same as they would with any other group of immigrants.

If the same number of /b/tards who approve of such things as genocide or fucking little girls actually carried out such acts, the world would be a much darker place. Thankfully, that isn't the case. The same is true for refugees.

>>735006275
That's fine it will just start a civil war. Comney is a Obama lacky, I don't trust him. Plus he would be prejurying himself so I doubt he is going to say anything useful thursday

>>735006275
>Impeachment

Do you really think even if there was an impeachment trump would be removed from office?

And even if that happens what are you going to do with pence? Pence is an Actual conservative trump is a 90's democrat

What happens when you guys impeach trump and then he stays in office? Then you'll have nothing to bitch about.

>>734987386
Wew lad.

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>>735006429

You need to understand that Islam, culturally, has fundemental and irreconcilable differences from the west.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

>inb4 source

Pew research center

>>735006510
>it will just start a civil war

Trump was elected by a minority vote. The majority of the country doesn't want him. What are his voters gonna do? Overdose on more opioids in West Virginia? I said it before: good riddance

>Comney is a Obama lacky

Lol, this is not even remotely true. Comey is simple. He wants attention. What is more attractive to Comey than unseating an unpopular president? He'll go down in history.

It doesn't matter if it's a travel ban or not. President has the power to restrict immigration from anywhere in the world of any group he wants and the SC will reverse the decision regardless. Even if he said it's specifically to target Muslims because that's who brings in terrorism, he'd still win.

>>735006921
It must be nice living in a one-variable world.

>>735006661

Bitch about what? I'll take a page from the good ol' alt-right and be more than happy about how much his supporters will complain. What's Pence gonna do? Be a typical Republican and complain about abortions for 4 years? Reduce taxes on the wealthy? Donald will do all of the above and embarrass the US on the international stage in addition. A secretly gay self-loathing vice president is nothing to me.

>>735007008

Must be nice pretending Trump isn't a stupid man child. Get a better poster boy for your dumb ideas. Maybe one that'll be competent enough to deliver

>>735007106
Trump will never be removed from
Office

Trump will not benimpeached

The democrats are not coming back into power any time soon

And based on the behavior of the left on the USA I'm willing to predict trump gets re-elected

And no amount of fantasy impeachment dreams will change that

>>735007248
>they think it's about trump

It was never about trump, you guys will keep losing until you understand that it has nothing to do with trump himself

>>735007306
>And based on the behavior of the left on the USA I'm willing to predict trump gets re-elected

Lol, and you talk about fantasy worlds... Get real

>>735007248
I'm not responsible for your hallucinations.

>>735006907
And what is the problem with some of them living here, as long as they follow our laws and are punished for breaking them?

>>735006921
Trump voters are ex military, gun owners, police,fire, and construction workers. Not guys that can't figure out which bathroom to use. I think we will be ok.

>>734987417
judging by your gammar and general level of stupidity id say ur 100% a trump voter. fkn stupid redneck ur the type of person that makes people hate the united states. the ban should be on people like u. and fyi its spelt faggot, faggot.

>>735007487
Not necessarily an answer to your question but I just saw some poll somewhere about muslims in the uk and whether or not they would report a terrorist threat if they had information. I think like 2/3 answered that they wouldn't. No idea the site I saw it though and I think the sample size was only like 1000 but the whole "don't trust the government" thing is at least one thing to consider.

>>735007487
>what's the problem with letting in a population that supports forced conversion and wants to rule the world under a theocratic empire

Really?

>>735007410
Right because it's "right wing" people screaming and rioting and shutting down schools and generally acting like children?

>>735007714
>ur stupid

This is why you will continue to lose

This thread was people who are intelligent explaining exactly how the travel ban is illegal and how Trump is shooting himself in the foot and stupid people typing insults in all caps thinking they've made a point when they don't even bring up rebutles, they just insult the anon. Republicans must be preserved so we can admire their stupidity from afar one day

>>735008039
That's disappointing. I was hoping you'd give me a more complex answer than "really?". I guess I expected too much of you.

>>735007998
Don't trust the government that took you in when you were fleeing your homeland with little more than the clothes on your back?

Seriously though, I think you raise a good point. Establishing a level of trust between refugee groups and the state should be a central goal of any refugee program. Especially when many of these people are fleeing countries where the government is autocratic, ineffective, or both.

>>735008265
Ok then anon how is the travel ban illegal? Obama had one so what makes trumps illegal?

>>735008297

Did you watch the video? There is no problem with Islamic people coming to the us if they are secular and they want to support our nation

But massive amounts of these people ARE NOT SECULAR

The majority of Muslims support political Islam, sharia law and the replacement of western legal systems with theocratic laws.

How do you not understand this

>>735008039
I'll ask again: If the government that takes in the refugees continues to enforce their laws and punishes the refugees who break the laws, then what's the problem? I'm gonna need more than smarmy, sarcastic bullshit. You're not twelve years old, I assume.

>>735008265
>they are stupid

You'd think after losing over and over you guys would stop underestimating your opponents

>>735008604
Refer to >>735008564

We aren't talking about secular immigrants that want to move to the west we are talking about the migration of entire populations that have no desire to follow our laws or culture

>>735008564
I understand what you're saying. But how are they going to implement sharia law and replacement of existing legal systems if they have neither citizenship nor voting rights?

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It's because if you stop talking about what a racist and sexist he is and actually calm down you'll notice him quietly shredding all your business regulations into hamster bedding. I'm glad you're too indoctrinated and emotional to manage the clearly epic feat of being reasonable. I feel this way because the money brought into the system by clearing away a morass of democrat-railroaded regulations, which have no other purpose than weakening the nation at the behest of a would be one-world socialist government will mean a better life for all Americans and vastly extend the ability of America to actually help those in need. A poor nation can help no one.

>>735008756
Look at London. They get a sympathizer in office then they train the young folks to accept the way of life. They are teaching kids that terrorism is their fault and it is normal.

>>735008483
Maybe "Don't trust the government" was just a bad description on my part. It might make more sense as a "us vs them" kind of thing. In other words, they could live in your house and follow your rules and do what you ask but they will never consider themselves as part of your family. And that can lead to trouble if it gets out of hand.

but like I said, that's just one thing. I'm sure there are way more reasons to just outright ban muslims as well as plenty of reason to not have any ban at all.

>>735008756
They are revolutionary

>>735008981
Stop speaking in generalities. Tell me exactly who and what you're talking about.

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>>735008604
Not who you are responding to, but the problem is that they are only peaceful and law-abiding when they are small in numbers. They are only biding their time until they are more numerous. Give them a couple generations to shit out six kids each while still importing more from the old country and suddenly you have a large number of them demanding sharia. The local laws don't mean anything to them, sharia is the only true law in their eyes.

>>735009187
I am not sure how you can't figure it out. Do you know anything about London and the mayor?

>>735009061
Yeah, that's the problem with any immigrant group. Assimilation doesn't happen overnight, but eventually it does happen. Literally every immigrant group that ever reached American soil eventually turned into a bunch of fat, loud cunts obsessed with consumerism and celebrity culture. If we can do it to the chinks and the spics, we can do it to the Muslims too.

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>>735008564

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

The terrorists are from the same ultraconservative sect of Islam that rules Saudi Arabia. It is specifically a Sunni school of thought. Liberals don't want you talking about this because being against a clearly radical ideology that wants to "purify Islam of heresies" and other such Inquisition-like madness they'd lose their ability to put Islam under one big blanket and thus be able to play their "race" card. They have replaced the word Wahhabist or Salafist wherever they can with "Islamist" to kick sand over how much cat shit their argument actually is to someone who knows anything about Islam.

>>735009347
Can you give a contemporary example of this happening?

>>735009348
No, I don't pay a lot of attention to UK politics. You'll have to fill me in. What did the Mayor of London do?

>>735009545
Yeah maybe you heard of the Islamic caliphate or requests for sharia specific courts? Or Lebanon in the 80's. Or Iran in 1979

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>>735009187

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/04/trump-blasts-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-saying-no-reason-alarmed-london-attack/

>>735009450
Here's the thing I was talking about. It's from last year : https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

>The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.

I don't disagree with you but polls like this say that muslims are not as willing to assimilate as other groups, which is what this is all about.

I personally think it's fine as long as they don't actually break laws or whatever, but I wouldn't be opposed to countries wanting to be sure that's the case before letting someone like that in.

>>735009606
Pretty much he said that terrorist attacks are something that they will have to deal with cause they live in a big city. And when the latest attackes happened he said that it was caused by islamphobia.
He a sand nigger btw

>>735009518
How about the previous 1400 years of conquest and forced conversions from Spain to Malaysia and from east Africa north to the Russian steppe

That was all wahabbi too?

Wahabbi is just a particularly fervent group right now but "conservative Islam". Is a huge problem right now and it's not just a small sect it has plenty of general support from averag Muslims

See the pew report video I linked

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>>734987973
>>has heslthy well adjusted kids

>>735009697
Are those your only examples? I thought we were talking about cases in which a majority non-Muslim country adopting sharia law after a large influx of Muslims.

Iran has always been predominately Muslim, and Lebanon is more or less evenly split between Muslims and Christians and has been for many decades.

>>734998630
Piracy is just making a copy, not theft :^)

>>735009975
Are you talking about this?
>>735009889

He was actually saying people shouldn't be alarmed by the increased police presence following the attacks. This has been widely reported as such.