I have heard plenty of times before about this phenomenon that

Date an ugly girl but not fat, they will stay loyal.

>>734546116
Asian.

It's bullshit. Women want to fuck a big strong alpha, and then turn him into a good provider so that she can reproduce. In a safe environment.

>>734546116
If you truly believe that what you're saying is true, don't date women. It's as simple as that. Stop acting like you were cursed by women to live an unfulfilling lifestyle just because they don't like you.

>>734546172
Truth

Good women still exists, but mra-mgtow-faggotry makes them avoid you

>>734546293
Asian is fake as fuck. Even worse then white women.

>>734546172
I mean like... yeah...

>>734546116
It isn't a phenomenon it's true. Females grow up wanting to get all the premarital sex while they can while they still have their looks to fall back on. However, once their looks to diminish and they realize they're becoming unattractive used meat bags, that's when they hit up the successful nerdy guys they blew off in school. Because thet figure you're a pathetic loser who would still love a chance to get in her filthy snatch and will take them in open arms. They're looking for a free ride in life because they were raised to believe their looks would take them everywhere they needed in life.

>>734546116
Fat ugly women are your go to that late in life. If you arent married by the time you are 25ish the chances of staying married go way down as the women have gotten too comfortable "on their own" Fat ugly women generally dont have much of a choice in mate, so they will loyally stick with the guy who accepts them as a hamplanet.

The big thing however, and the big problem with older women... do not marry a woman you have not lived with for years. You would be surprised at the number of people that get married after dating, not even living together, for 6-12 months. I lived with my girlfriend for 9 years before we got married. Another big thing is do not give her too much freedom, and if that is a problem for her....fucking run.

>>734546301
They want alpha, then realize most alpha's have repressed gay tendencies and are worthless. They move to levelheaded, boring provider around late 20's or so. Then get bored as women do since they have very short attention spans and after this, They Fuck an alpha until husband finds out. Then take their money and leave free to fuck alphas all day. She doesn't need money at this point. Who cares if he's a loser. This system is such a femal luxury, yet they complain about being equals lol

>>734546293
Its a massive myth, unless you mean south east asian rice farmers who will sell their soul to go anywhere except another farm. Japanese women have higher standards than your most stuck up California beach bitch.

>>734546697
I forgot to mention that women will start talking about babies and marriage non stop around age 29-30. Realistically, women only have until 38-40 before having children becomes risky. A 30 year old woman is going to want to be married and start trying for kids asap before her "biological clock" hits midnight. So older women are much harder to happily marry if you plan on you know, getting to know each other before getting married. No 30 year old woman is going to be ok with dating and living together for 5 years before getting married

>>734546301
if you could do that they wouldn't be alpha

>>734546826
Nah, dated a Nepalese girl for six years. Her parents born and raised there. She was raised in America with parents home grown values. That's the important part. They are generally strong, intelligent females who understand how to be a normal human being and work well in a married environment. I've seen it. They aren't "submissive." They are full of respect and class and they'll argue and challenge you behind closed doors 100%, but they aren't psycho, they aren't manipulative, they aren't entitled cunts. Unless they are 100% Americanized then be careful.

the mgtow myth of all women only being emotionless leeches who only wants alpha badboys is just bullshit.

if you don't want to end up cucked, avoid those types of women. it's not that hard to tell the difference between them. if you can't tell the difference and sort 'em out, that's your problem right there...

>>734546116
Hows your parents relationship

>>734546116
nah man. you pretty much hit the nail on the head with that theory. That's literally exactly how it works. The alphas have their way, have kids, then leave. Then the betas become the support men later when the females looks have deteriorated and they start to worry about how they're going to be supported when they're not hot anymore.

It's just nature bro. Nothing you can do about it. Embrace what you are.

>>734546172
+1
Doesn't even have to be ugly, just not very pretty. As long as they smell good, the sex is gonna be awesome, and TBH, thats all that matters after 30.

Women are stupid and I do not respect them. That's right, I just have sex with them.

>>734547479
I...I thought this was stupid, but then I thought about it. This guy gets it.

>>734547400
This worries me. Im not great looking, but I am fun, "alpha" as you put it, love "guy" things like hunting and trucks. Love a good drink and to toss my wife around.

Except Im not exactly "well off" and despite being married since we turned 18, she is about to his the age where everyone says she will leave me for the rich loser because he is established and stable.

Bitch leaves me and ... I wont post what happens never on the internet

>>734546697
>Another big thing is do not give her too much freedom
Dafuq are you talking about.

>>734546116
Import a woman unaware of the legal processes in our society

>>734547876
Women dont need 30 friends. They dont need to "going for drinks". They dont need to "go shopping" 4 times a week. THAT is a recipe and code words for "Im going to go rub my ass on a screen door and see how many cats I can attract if you get what I mean.

Bitch needs to keep her ass at home. There is plenty of shit for her to do here. Women dont "go out" to socialize. They go out to be whores

It's literally stupid not to get a prenuptial agreement before marriage. Hey divorce rates are at half but my gal and me have it aaaaallll figured out ;) that's stupid. If she pops the "Oh...sonyou plan on getting a divorce? Drop some stats and the ole, "if you love me, this shouldn't matter at all." Protect your assets /b/

>>734548157
that's why you date a woman before you date her, so you can suss those things out before you start a relationship.

Wtf it is very few women who are that evil. Most people in general are good people, but you decide what kind of people you wanna attract in life.

>>734548252
As if prenup means anything in burgerlandia

>>734548318
that's why you date a woman before you start a relationship, so you can suss those things out

>>734548157
That doesn't mean you shouldn't allow your gf "too much freedom". That only means that you shouldn't date a whore.

>>734547647
Is your marriage satisfying for both parties? It's less about looks when it comes to women's attraction to men. Women are more attracted to status and confidence.

You sound like the "Man's man" which isn't a bad thing at all.

If you don't trust your wife and think she might leave you for someone better, you're either being paranoid or trusting your gut. Should talk to your wife about the fulfillment of your marriage and if she is happy.

>>734548403
They do, stop listening to retards who think they can LegalZoom a prenup. If both parties have lawyers present at signing a prenup is iron clad.

Getting some legal docs at OfficeMax and typing up a DOCX to be signed because "who needs lawyers" is a good way to fuck yourself

>>734546116
if you do have money and a good job you have hte ability to find a young women who is looking for a family. you don't have to settle for a worn out whore

>>734548548
Given a chance, all women will be whores. So will all men. You only trust someone as far as you can see and hear them.

Keep her barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen. If she has any problem with any of that... fuck you, next woman please. There are 1.5 billion of them out there and Id bet somewhere around 15-20% of them understand what their place is in the world

Oh sweet, an unofficial women hate thread by a bunch of kissless virgin betas.

>Keep it classy, /b/.

>>734548804
>there are 1.5 billion women in the world
Please let this be bait

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Date a transgirl/femboy.

Some of them are prettier than born girls, and some of them aren't slutty and manipulative because they have probably had absolutely nobody to depend on their entire fucked up miserable homeless lives.

>>734546116
If you treat women like whores who are just fucking you for money and a house, they're not going to want to fuck you in general.

It's amazing you faggots haven't picked up on this yet. They're human beings. Treat them that way or they'll very obviously find someone else who will and fuck them instead.

>>734549245
i've found the adult

>>734548804
>You only trust someone as far as you can see and hear them
You sound like one paranoid fuck, bro.

>Keep her barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.
Nice conservative values there. If you can't hold onto a non-submissive woman, it's not the world that is at fault. We shouldn't oppress half the population just because of you beta shits.

>>734546301
They want alpah - but alpha can't be changed.
Most women don't realize it, but their selection of the alpha male includes the brutality it requires. So when they get beaten up, or controlled, or manipulated - they get upset. But that's exactly what the alpha male is. Brutal, controlling, manipulative and uncaring.

Every coin has at least two sides. Women drive natural selection. And they select the alpha brute. Then complain that he's an alpha brute.

That beta engineer is the real cuck. After her pussy is all stretched out and her eyes blackened a few times, she decides to go with the 'safe' beta - takes his money and treats him like shit. Then she retires on his money.

Women are whores whether they marry or not.
Which makes me think the wahabbis might be on to something - marry them young and keep them in the home so they can't practice their worst personality traits.

Look, Anon, I need to tell you something because I don't know if I'll ever see you again.

I... I was an orphan... and I was raised in a whore house in Philadelphia. I read about Milton Hershey and his school in a porno mag, or some crap the girls left by the toilet, and it said some kids had a different life there. I could picture it. I dreamt of it. The idea of being wanted. Because the girl who was forced to raise me would look at me every day like she hoped I would disappear.

The closest I came to feeling wanted was a girl... who made me go through her John's pockets while they screwed. If I collected more than a dollar... she would buy me a Hershey bar. And I would eat it... alone... in my room... with great ceremony. Feeling like a normal kid.

It said sweet on the wrapper.

It was the only sweet thing in my life.

>>734549245
...as a female, you're in the ballpark but missing the swing.

>>734549429
There is a point to be made about this as a phenomenon with average women, but you can learn more from this anon >>734549245

>>734549245
you're ruining the fun

>>734546116
You are cursed to this fate because you are a faggot, in MY HOUSE I'm the one who says the last sentence because I know what's best for us and she respect me for that. I don't fear a divorce at all.

>>734549637
There are things that people need to hear sometimes. Its common sense to some, but profound to others.

Am I the only one in this thread, who considers his wife as his equal? Trust her, and not worried at all about her cheating without chaining her to the house?

>>734550173
no this is /b/
if you actually believe /b/ullshit you deserve what you get

>>734550189
no, i'm as baffled as you hearing these cunts spewing their fagtow bullshit. the problem isn't women, it's (A) your attitude (B) the sort of girls your associating with. i love and trust my wife

>>734549946
I'm sure your wife loves being married to someone so egotistical and "alpha" that you make the decisions on her behalf.

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>>734550496
newfag detected.
>/b/ullshit
jesus christ.

>>734550632
10 years faggot

>>734550496
>/b/ullshit

Oh sweet jesus...

>>734549946
The greatest skill a woman has is making every man she dates feel this way.

In practice, your "last sentence" doesn't mean jackshit. She's going to do it anyway, whether or not she tells you about it afterward.

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>>734550706
Then that's fucking embarrassing and you should know better by now.
>1/10
Benefit of the doubt that you're attempting to b8, too.

>>734550568
Sometimes there isn't anything wrong with a controlling manly man.

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>>734551190
Unless hes a fucking dumbass and controlling others to make the same shit tier decisions that landed him on 4chan at 3:30pm MST on a Friday.

Clearly-- you know best.

>>734550189
Not alone, anon. My wife wouldn't cheat on my for anything. People say "well, you never know." I know. It's just not in her DNA. She thinks I'm the most wonderful guy on earth. Her family says the same thing. Her friends say the same thing. My friends shake their head at my years of zero woman problems.

There are loyal, loving women out there, but I don't know why men can't seem to find any.

>>734546172
Yep, i married what i thought was an ugly chick when we started dating In college. Now she is my wife and the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

>>734549488
What's that supposed to mean?

>>734548605
Any lawyer worth the money can invalidate prenup pretty easily. There are plenty of precedents for it.
If you don't give the money to the girl, your lawyer will get it.
Marriage makes absolutely no sense for a man in anno domini 2017. Unless you're religious.

>>734551361
I guess they are looking for pretty fuckgirls. And then wonder what went wrong. And make these faggy "every woman is a whore" threads on /b/

Basically the same as women saying 'all men are pigs". How does it feel top be on the same level as feminazis?

I'd never cheat on a partner. Even if they were cheating on me, I'd still never do it. I've almost done it a few times, but I always break up with the person before I go through with it. Clearly, if I'm thinking about cheating, the relationship isn't worthwhile.

I think it's more of a personal choice. There are people who have it in them to do that to someone. I'm just not one of them, but I do know chronic cheaters who are totally OK with it. I'm not sure why.

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>>734551500

>>734551500
Just that you're kinda missing the point of being a man, and the point of being a female. You gave a disappointing perspective on the situation.

No girl likes a guy who will 'respect her boundaries' but won't know when to push them.

>>734550568
>I'm sure your wife loves being married to someone so egotistical and "alpha" that you make the decisions on her behalf.
I'm not egotistical, I give her everything she needs and i don't ask for anything in return but I know what is best for the family and she does not, simply like that.
>>734550936
No, because she respects me, when you gain the respect of someone, you don't need to keep watch.

>>734551584
>>734548252
Marriage is a commercial contract. You trade (more than) half your shit for something. It can be some mediocre sex, or children. Still, it's just a fucking contract, but noone seems to realize that you can live with someone basically forever, without saying
>Hey, we're doing pretty well, let's get the government involved, so you can't leave without a messy fight at the court.
>Also, half my shit.

>>734546116

never get married. problem solved

>>734546172
Date a slightly overweight girl with a terrible self-image and stick with her while you work on being healthy together. She will love you forever.

Daddy issues tied into that go a long way, especially if you're older.

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>>734551078
>posting pics straight out of reddit
>criticizing me
yeah ok kiddo

>>734551786
Yeah, maybe I misinterpreted your earlier post a bit because of the words and capitalization you used (e.g. "faggot" and "MY HOUSE"). I wish your marriage the best.

>>734551786
Is that what she tells you?

What a cute way of keeping you quiet. It's very hard to respect a prison warden when he barks orders at you like a dog, expecting the same obedience. If she disagrees with your "final word", she's going to make your life hell until your final word matches HER final word, which is the thing she took action on before she even told you about it in the first place.

Happy wife makes a happy home, and that shit is no joke. You do what she wants, but she makes you think its your idea. Same shit, different last names.

>>734552037
>still talking
Clearly, you haven't been here 10 years "kiddo xD lol kek".

>>734549488
>listening to women about women

Yeah, no.

Women never know what they want until they have to make a decision.

I don't think women are mindless vaginas that want to jump on any handsome dick they see, but taking women's advice about women is like asking prisoners how not to go to prison.

>>734546116
More women fuck around with chads than used to be the case, because we're less neurotically shameful about sex as a society. Feminism and the usual suspects like to encourage this. Such a lifestyle isn't a very good long term strategy if you want kids. Women tend to realize they want kids in their 30s, and chads don't make good fathers. So this involves radically changing their strategy really quick. Many end up latching on to someone because he's stable, then realize they aren't actually attracted to him (probably because they like chads).

Tends to end in divorce, cheating and all that other bullshit, and that goes about as destructively as you'd expect. But it's important to note that the woman didn't go into the marriage for the sake of dragging him through the bullshit that is family court. She just wants mutually exlusive things and hasn't figured that out yet.

Tends to go bad for the beta-class incel she latches onto & procreates with because he tends to be the guy lacking in experience to notice a girl like that has issues and should best be avoided. So they go radical red pill MGTOW and assume it's characteristic of all women because they can't tell the difference.

>>734552447
>ike asking prisoners how not to go to prison
I think they'd have some pretty good tips. Or at least one each.

>>734551752
Here's some advice:

Tell the man to push your boundaries. Men are too afraid to do something that will offend or disgust you from all the feminist indoctrination through their childhood and adolescence.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever realized about women

>no means yes, but sometimes it also means no

Why is it so hard for women to know what they want? Serious question.

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>>734546116
just go to the gym

>>734551854
Marriage gets you insurance benies, tax benies and loan benies.

It is statistically proven that married people are happier and more productive than single people. Also, the bedrock of society is married couples that raise children together.

Your type of thinking is why there is so much lack of purpose in the modern age.

>>734552447
Its obvious why you're still frequenting this tibetan sewing machine image sharing forum.

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>>734551854
>lets get the government involved

>>734552989
Oh yeah? Why is that?

>>734552884
>statistically proven that married people are happier and more productive than single people
This is correlation, not causation. I dare guess the causation is actually the other way.

Also, ya, tax benefits and stuff, but that's just part of the deal. And yes, it's an ideal way to make sure your kid will actually have two parents. What I don't get is getting married without the intention to have children, or considering the economical consequences of the contract, but because of "love".

>>734548937
>>there are 1.5 billion women in the world
>Please let this be bait

It is. Current global population estimates are 7.5 billion. If half are female sexed, that would be 3.75 billion. About ten percent are queers, so that leaves you with about 3.3 billion women on the planet.

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>>734552989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EawVTisxET0
@1:42

"Yes where I'm from we have to be very aggressive."
"I'm all for that, especially with women. Yknow, they may not admit it but they all want a man to take charge-- tell them what to do."

He gets dumped at the end of this scene for trying to "take charge" and "tell her what to do".

>>734553058
It's true man, have you been to a wedding? Around here we usually don't have a priest, but some guy from the city council saying
>According to the X section Y provision of the Civil law, on behalf of $COUNTRY, I now acknowledge your wedding
It's fucking surreal when you think about it.

>>734553244
Perhaps marriage is supposed to be about love, and not about financial obligations or economical consequences. Perhaps you're killing the romance by focusing on the wrong aspects of it. You want to have kids with someone because you love them, not because they make sound financial sense.
>you obviously don't have children

>>734546116
don´t waste your time "loving" or searching for "love", human beigns are fucking putrid, fuck beauties whenever you can, but dont let your feelings ruin your life, almost any women would cheat on you, or deceive you at any point. It`s a waste of time trying to find a stable partner.

>>734553663
Most of them are niggers, sandniggers, indians, other shitskins, or chinks though.

>>734553939
I sure do want to have children, and marry just before it.
If I didn't, I wouldn't though.

>>734546116
>decent
>human beign
pick one faggot

>>734548157
Brilliant!

>>734553836
I just got back from one, and got proposed to immediately after I got off the plane. But hers was one of those gigantic blow out deals, with the ball gown and the venue and the DJ and all that shit.
>$18K for one party
You put yourself into debt right out the gate. That's one year of college tuition thrown down the drain on fancy dresses and poorly cooked food to feed people you barely know and most likely will never see again. Its a racket but now I have to deal with it too.

>>734546116
No this is not how it works. Read this. Look into Real Social Dynamics. You can up your social game AND most importantly up your game completely with women.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt

>>734546116
People aren't that simple. Yes, some women will ride cocks until they find a provider and some will never do that, just look for a nice guy from the beginning. Some will never stop riding cocks.

That being said, generally speaking you can find a nice loyal girl after she's finished enjoying her youth and can get her after her best years have passed. Just in time to support her. Most will be loyal because they need you financially and emotionally.

>>734552686
That makes total sense!

I try to do that some times, I at least let it fully clear that I want a man to push my boundaries. I'm just also very insecure, so it can be really hard- but i'm still really communicative.

That no means yes rule is again looking at it the wrong way.

Sometimes females grant the male the right to define yes and no. You can't look at it as "sometimes us girls say no but we really mean yes." because then you're saying it's still up to the girl and the man has entirely no say.

>>734554128
You don't have to though? Maybe if your fiancé (or her relatives) is a needy bitch.

I heard about these pretentious american weddings, where you pretend to be super rich to a lot of people, mainly relatives. Thankfully you don't have to do that around here, the biggest wedding I went to cost less than 3000 european pezos. You also get it back from the guests.

>>734554745
They have that here too, money in the form of gifts etc. And yeah I know we don't HAVE to but how romantic is it to show up to a courthouse and have a judge bang a gavel and say "man and wife"? I want at least a little bit of a to-do but it's all going to cost money. And the guests will bitch about having to fly to whichever venue you have it at. Both our families live in different states, and we live in another state separate from those ones. It'd be a destination wedding regardless, and everyones going to ask if I got special deals on the airlines or if I booked a hotel for everyone. It's going to be a nightmare. I had thought to have a quiet service somewhere but that'll just piss people off. Feels like a lose lose.

Go to Thailand and screw hookers OP. That's what I do. No fucking western bitch is going to make me her 'provider' while treating me like shit and acting like she's got a golden pussy.

Works better if you have a job that allows you to work remotely or with substantial vacation time. Start planning now.

>>734546116

Here's my position:

Yes and No.

Most girls, even smart nerdy ones and the ones you'd think are serious want to fuck the "Chads" as you put it. Ever notice how as the class gets smarter the attractiveness of women seems to go down but not for men? Ugly girls are basically average or slightly above average men in their younger years. Almost all want the dick. not all but like 95%. Why? He's popular, confident etc and girls in their younger years don't do resource based selection. They do gene based and assume his confidence and popularity are the results of good genes. So they fuck around using what looks like r strategy fucking with high gene selection.

Older girls who didn't get the "Chads" or alpha males settle for in their eyes "lesser" males and tend to seek resources, money, status etc from them. They are more K strategists now and seek less offspring or reproductive opportunities but seek stability since they can't win the dick (he's still popular with girls). So that leaves our successful non alpha males and betas to get women here a little later in the game.

Men select younger women. This is why they can't compete. However, will they divorce him and take half his shit?

Continued...

Drol

Fad

Just numbers

>>734554745
You should watch "say yes to the dress" though. Weddings are a big industry in the states. The brides walk in quoting a dress budget of $2K-5K+. Venues are thousands, DJs are hundreds, and wedding coordinators add a gigantic percentage too. Marriage, like death, is a booming industry waiting to rip people off by exploiting their strongest emotions (love and grief). But again, non traditional is always possible but it feels like people still kind of judge you for not living up to that standard.

Digits

Ie ie ie

Fugezi

Stay with me

Another stock

Via commission motherkfucker

Moore

>>734546116
Man up date someone who keeps you interested and isn't some boring dumb bitch it's as simple as that! Worrying is a sign of cuckery and women can smell that shit from a mile away

>>734554986
>>734555368
>piss people off
>other people judge you

Am I on the same /b/? Since when is this important?

>tfw too beta and balding to get chicks now, and too poor to get them in the future

>>734555683
confirmed

love isn't real it's just a chemical reaction that compels humans to breed and mate and it slowly fades away into a failing marriage

>>734555259

They very well might. Some plan on doing this initially or plan to sponge off the guy. Most are hypergamous for sure and women tend to try to marry up. However, most don't try to divorce initially. However, their hypergamy is directing them to always look higher. So they marry decent resources and get stable. However, if they find something "better" in their minds. Either another alpha male in their mind (due to behavior or resources. He must outshine you in one of these departments enough for her to take the risk) there is a reasonable chance you will get cheated on. Why? She has locked you down and has a shot at an upgrade. Her hypergamy MIGHT kick in and she will hunt for higher. Many divorces are initiated by women out of boredom or falling out of love and when you hunt for the root reason this tends to be why.

So, if you are a beta I'm going to say she may never love you the same way, she may have backup options (half of women do) and she might be shit. There is a chance she will be good but only after she can't compete at all anymore and has no more options. That's what I tend to see. I'd say it's a coin toss if she leaves (like 35 percent given the rates, higher for her to cheat btw) but if she does consider yourself fucked due to the court system.

It's a very real risk men have to face unfortunately. I found an 18 year old girl who really likes me and I'm young. We will both earn 6 figures. She will financially beat me due to her mom (wealth) but I look better than her and am hung so she has her reasons and intellectually we are on par (both gifted). I found a NAWLT. They are VERY rare so I try to look for those and keep them but they don't enter the marriage looking to leave if they do. Their instinct just sort of kicks in and then it goes downhill if they do.

>>734554378
>after her best years have passed.
>Just in time to support her.

Bad strategy. You're swooping in on a girl at the end of her rope and settling down because circumstances have forced her into it. That's not the kind of girl that'd actively avoid infidelity. That's just a girl who lacks viable opportunity right now. She wants to be on the caraousel, and the only reason she's not is because she thinks she can't. As soon as a ride presents itself there's no one more likely to hop on. You're relying on sexual marketplace value being in your favour... against a woman.

What you want is someone who has some degree of experience to know what she's missing, and has decided of her own accord that lifestyle is not for her. She's not going to resent feeling like she's stuck with you. Get her in her prime and you know she could have anyone and has wants you. People actively resist choices made for them.

>>734555987
BREAK THE CYCLE MORTY

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>>734546116
This is a well-observed and easily quantifiable phenomenon.

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>>734546522
You believing all bitches are like this is partly why you are alone.

>>734553244
>I dare guess the causation is actually the other way.

Care to explain what you mean by that?

Corollaries do often represent relational phenomena.

I get the feeling your pretty young because it doesn't seem like you've experienced much of what you're talking about first hand.

I don't think everyone should get married. In fact, I think less people should have kids and get married. I think most people are incapable of seeing past themselves and being truly altruistic and those people certainly shouldn't have children or get legally bound to another person.

All I can say is that if you don't understand why you should get married then you haven't met a woman that you can't live without.

Love is doing the dishes and going to sleep with the TV on. It's not romance or lust. When you can happily see yourself not having sex with some old lady in your golden years then you should get married. Otherwise I suggest remaining single for the rest of your life.

Also, that hippy shit where you shack up with your old lady but never take the time to make her an honest woman is juvenile in my opinion.

>>734551851

they fuck you on the shipping. Plus it's a cheap quartz watch not even worth $2

>>734556274
It's a bad strategy but literally his only strategy. Didn't you read his post?

>>734556461
>I'm 22
>beta
>all women are whores

As I said, this is the male equivalent of the third wave feminists spouting that all men are inferior.

>>734556380
>>734556461
Why is everyone always surprised that hot girls don't want weedy guys.

Even decent girls want chad, and a chad (like a Stacey) will have several orbiters he can call up for a quick fuck.

Women these days relate sex with romance, and think that by having sex with a man they can lock him down. This is a big mistake.

The weedy guy I mentioned earlier is in love with one of these decent girls who is in love with Chad. He can't seem to understand that he isn't undesirable because he's too nice. He's undesirable because he isn't really a catch. There are lots of nice guys. There are only a few guys out there that make women's soaked panties hit the floor.

Start looking into pickup artist stuff to help boost your confidence and keep women interested.

Women want high drama and heightened emotions. They don't want "nice".

>>734548252
Why even make the stupid decision to get married in the first place

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>>734557240
>Women want high drama and heightened emotions. They don't want "nice".
And that is why, I've become a MGTOW.

>>734557240

I met a girl who used sexuality to try to secure me for a relationship then got mad I only wanted sex.

She came at me, full sexual force here. Expecting a relationship. It was stupid as FUCK. She did that with my friend later on and he said the same shit. The fuck is wrong with her.

We all thought she was an idiot and laughed. Never fucked her. Just moved on.

For reference: She's dance with you, makeout immediately, get very physical and then go back to your place and makeout on your bed or whatever and would literally only stop and not fuck. She would do everything but fuck or do any real sex contact and then get mad you thought she wanted casual sex.

Women.

>>734546116
The only way to play that hand is by getting a young mail order bride. That way she knows if she fucks up you will just go get a different non-defective one.

>>734557582
You won't buy the cow if you get the milk for free now will you?

>>734550189
twats are not equal. there's your problem retard. men are generally smarter, taller, faster etc (with a few outlier exceptions before you try that sad logic).

>>734557582
We call these "virgin whores" arund here. My sister was one, but she grew out of it thankfully.

>>734546116
Go MGTOW. Problem solved.

>>734558055
That's not true. Intellectually, the averege man is pretty much the same as the average woman. The only difference is variance, meaning that most women are average, while many man are geniouses or idiots.

If you've only met stupid women, you know the wrong people. Also, you most likely only tohught you are smarter than them (80% of people rate themselves as above median)

>>734557940

God no but she sets a piss poor standard or level of expectancy. She came at it with sex hoping for a relationship.

Act like you want more you get more. Act like you want less you get less. That simple.

>>734546116
You've either been on the internet for too long that it has now warped your view on women and life in general, OR you've been with some really fucked up chicks and don't know where to find the right ones.

Either which, they are both your fault. If you're too stupid to not know when a woman should be trusted or not, then you partially deserve it. Stop thinking with your dick and use your fucking head. Also, you probably shouldn't listen to what anyone on /b/ tells you when it comes to women. These are kids who still think life is like porno and your woman will just cheat on you for a black dude. Yes. That can happen. But it's not that common, in fact, it rarely ever happens.

If you're not man enough to deal with this kinda stuff, then you might as well just become a trap.

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>>734559084
> implying he's not a trap

>>734556474
>all bitches
The ones you call bitches are like this. The same way there's a difference between a nigger and a black man, there's bitches and hoes, and then there's women.

>>734559084
Don't listen to this guy, he's a kid who believes life is like a porno.

>>734556474
Actually even if he worded it badly, this is true psychologically speaking, anon. Women's sexual market value decreases over time, whereas men's (as long as they don't fuck up) generally increases. It's all about timing and where the 2 axis' meet.

The problem with society, is that guys ended up listening to women, about women. Now they cant get pussy, cos they are treating'em nicely, when they actually hate that. Just trust n follow your balls. Nature has given u all that u need to get laid. Never listen to what a woman says when it comes to relationship.

>>734546410
Found the fatty

>>734551752
>>734552686
>>734554447

How the hell do you push a woman's boundaries in a way that doesn't just piss them off or make you a douchebag in their eyes? Or does it matter?

Are you basically confirming the idea that women want to be treated like shit and ordered around? Or are you describing something different?

Thing is, I don't want to be with someone who I need to watch, manage, and direct. I want someone who is going to push me, who is going to have my back. I know how I want to be pushed; women have pushed me out of my comfort zone in the past in ways that men don't seem to be able to do. It's a gentle handed kind of push. But I've never seen evidence that women want to go anywhere outside their comfort zone.

>>734546116
Different people want different things, it's that simple. You just have to be smart enough to figure out the kind of individual they are. If not, you're doomed anyway.

>>734546116
Definitely not my friend. Your best bet is to keep 'friends' and get love where you can without literally cutting your heart out for some cunt.

>>734548879
are you from buzzfeed?
seems like youre from buzzfeed

>>734546172
What about a fat pretty girl

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>>734546116
1st things 1st. By the tense of your statement you are worrying about something that might happen in the future with someone you haven't even met yet.
Fuck that, it's like worrying about fucking meteors or super volcanoes or some shit. Relax enjoy yourself and let life happen.
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Next when you are an age to where 'older more desperate women' are looking to you for a safe port, you will be older and hopefully wiser too. How 'bout you work on surrounding yourself with people of good character now so that in the future you won't know any scumbags who would do this to another human being.
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3 So you're not an alpha fucking everything that moves. Big deal. Your a man, so long as you work on building a career, not just a job, and gaining more stability and responsibility your sexual value will continue to rise, while the sexual value of women fall with age. Fucking Mick Jagger is 74 and can fuck anyone he wants. How many 74 year old women can do that?

>>734546116

>step 1: work out (until you are either super fit, or super strong)
>step 2: Learn to be confident and dominant in your social interactions (take what you want, dont settle for less)
>step 3: Find a age 20-25 woman with a strong father figure and with traditional family values
>step 4: never stop working out or being dominant
>step 5: lead the relationship like the captain of a ship, you make the calls and you are her emotional guidance/support
>step 6: live life everyday knowing that she could walk out on you any second and be prepared to walk away yourself without it destroying your life/happiness

>>734555683
Yup. Probably sounds difficult, but you can't let on that you're worrying. At all. Worrying implies that you have no control over the situation to the other person. Even if you have no plans of controlling or outright manipulating them, you can be in control by making the choice to leave. And if you have to make that choice, they're not worth staying with.

>>734546116
op if you just become an hero then girls will love you more than they ever have before

>>734553663
>About ten percent are queers
you mean mentally ill degenerates? biological fags are a myth

>>734553939
>Perhaps you're killing the romance by focusing on the wrong aspects of it.
so then get married in a church and tell the gov to fuck off you dont need a special certificate even then though all the negatives can still effect the man

>>734553664
lydia was a hard working business mans daughter that was raised by two parents that loved her which reflected how respectable and dutiful she was at helping the family business and dealing with ghetto-esque behavior from her father and those around her. this is very difficult to find in many place in the usa

>>734546327
realest post itt

>>734551880
yup.

been with mine for 8 years.

put her through school, now makes pretty good money as well.

loyal as fuck.

knows exactly what she looks like, and remembers how she was treated from people in her past.

outright best friend material

>>734567089
wait til menopause

>>734554986
>And yeah I know we don't HAVE to but how romantic is it to show up to a courthouse and have a judge bang a gavel and say "man and wife"?
then just go to a church as a couple no need to a pos piece of gov paper to "approve" your relationship

>>734546116
Lower your standards and expectations, and raise your self confidence. Women like men who act like MEN. "Chad" rests within all of us. Let him free. Your situation isn't complicated, it is the result of over thinking. Get your shit together pussy. Also, leave your house and engage.

>>734546116
>DAYMAN

>AAAAAHHHHHH