>dump drunk girlfriend 2 hours ago >she begs me for an

>>734225823
Was she drinking before she said that

>>734225823
I found the leader of the Betas

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>>734225982
Yes. She's always drunk. She wakes up in the middle of the night to drink because becoming sober while she sleeps gives her the shakes.

But she says in the video that she is of sound mind and swears that she hasn't been drinking or taking drugs.

>>734226190
Wouldn't that make me an alpha male by definition?
>fucking retard

if she was totally sober while making that recording it's legal, if not, don't.

bumperino

If you want so.. I see no reason to deny her suggetion. But keep in mind then you had sex with her you can be a rapist in eyes of other people

If she was drunk while saying it, this shit won't stand up. Neither will she, if she was drunk.

It's still rape.

Google the law for consent in New York. Once she becomes unconscious, all consent she gave prior to becoming unconscious is instantly voided.

>>734226669
But she swears that she hasn't been drinking when she spoke into the video camera. It's lie, but she says it convincingly.

Do it.

op dont be a fag, do it and post evidence

I'm currently in Manhattan.

I'll give you $2,000 dollars if you let me fuck her all night. You can watch if you want to make sure I don't hurt her. Just put her in a suitcase, hail a cab and bring her to my hotel room.

I'm staying at the Grand Hyatt
>109 E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017 rm 2559

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>>734227367

Do something OP. Don't be a faggot

Pics or the vid of her

>>734225823
Old pasta is old

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>>734227690

>>734227485
that's the idea
have OP's bitch get a load of this guy

pretty hot bait

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>>734227775

>>734226195
But you just admitted she was not. On public record.

>>734225823
>Wouldn't this still be considered rape?
Not if you have her giving you consent on video.

And to be honest even if she did change her mind, and you didn't have her consent on video, you could just lie to everyone and say she was conscious. It's not like anyone can prove otherwise.

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>>734228186
>on 4chan without using a proxy

enjoy your v& idiot. it's literally illegal to come here.

>>734228323
This isn't true. It absolutely doesn't matter what she said prior to becoming unconscious.

Once she become conscious, it is absolutely impossible to have sex with her and it not be considered rape.

>>734226195
Fuck that bitch. Id use her hard. In all holes

>>734226669
>If she was drunk while saying it, this shit won't stand up

>if you're drunk you can't give consent.
wrong, and its disturbing that feminist propaganda has penetrated this far. Of course being drunk doesn't affect your responsibility for your actions (including giving consent to sex), otherwise drunk driving would be a crime

I think you should get her some help.

>>734228450
what are you basing this on?

>>734228323
new york:
S 130.50 Criminal sexual act in the first degree.
A person is guilty of criminal sexual act in the first degree when he
or she engages in oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct with
another person:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless

S 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages
in sexual intercourse with another person:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless;

S 130.05 Sex offenses; lack of consent.
1. Whether or not specifically stated, it is an element of every
offense defined in this article that the sexual act was committed
without consent of the victim.
2. Lack of consent results from:
(a) Forcible compulsion; or
(b) Incapacity to consent;
___
S 130.00 Sex offenses; definitions of terms.
The following definitions are applicable to this article:
**
7. "Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious or for any
other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an
act.

etc, etc.

>>734228619
The actual law >>734228669

>>734225823
Only fuck her ass when she's passed out, always use a condom, and do it often.

>>734226261
Kek. This makes so much sense it hurts.

>>734227933
kek

>>734225823
Timestamp her

>>734228669
>>734228708
where exactly in that does it say that consent that has been legitimately given is later voided if the person is incapacitated? It only says that a person cannot give consent while unconscious, and OP's girlfriend was very much conscious when she gave her consent.

Think about it you moron. Going by your logic no one would be able to consent to surgical operations that required a general anaesthetic, because even if they signed the form beforehand as soon as they went under the anaesthetic the consent form would be voided.

>>734226195
Ask her to record it again while sober, if she doesn't, there's no way it can be proven that she was inebriated at the time of the recordings

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>>734229234
see >>734227775

>ever-present demand for proof

>>734225823
All she has to do is say she revoked consent at some point after making the recording if she wants to claim you raped her, which seems more likely since she's fucked up enough to need to be drunk 24/7

>>734228669
>A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages
>in sexual intercourse with another person:

>2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless;

>7. "Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious or for any
other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an
act.

It is legally impossible for her to give consent to this. All consent she gives is made void by her unconscious state.

>>734225823
This would actually be a great question to ask an attorney. They would probably be happy to engage this line of thinking considering they never hear something this candid

Omg man fuck her. If she's into it and you like it too moreover she's your gf, why not

>>734229773
sauce? I also imagine this varies state to state in the U.S. Definitely rape in Sweden

Put a timstamp on that bitch, then fuck her brains out.

Be sure to record it faggot.

>>734229773
>All consent she gives is made void by her unconscious state.
Again, it doesn't say this. It only says that she is incapable of giving consent WHILE unconscious, not that consent she gives beforehand becomes invalid.

While everyone is arguing about bullshit OP is balls deep

Sex needs consent
Rape is sex without consent
You cannot consent while you're unconscious
She gave continuing consent beforehand

If this went to a trial there is no way you would be convicted

If you really want sleeping pussy go for it i guess

>>734229982
Yes, it does.
>Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless
>"Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious

Which word do you not understand?

>>734225823
Man gtfo of that shit show. You can't legally revoke your own human or civil rights, it wouldn't hold up in court if she gave sworn testimony *herself* that she did it. You're gonna end up regretting this relationship. Get out.

Fucking americunts are fucking retarded. Every other nations men wouldn't be talking shit about this law rape this not rape blah blah blah.
>she did everything you asked her to do
> even looked sober doing it
>WTF get her fucked every way you can possibly do it
>get your mates round let them fuck her in every hole also
>fuck it let her brother father vicar grandfather
>just get that alcoholic slut fucked in every hole by everyone
And yes you are the biggest beta that's ever made a thread are you a man or a fucking gay mouse

>>734230290
>You can't legally revoke your own human or civil rights
...yes you can. You can consent to slavery, experimentation, bodily harm, starvation, torture, not having a gun..

If you were to get a legal document drawn up by an attorney, with both parties present, stating that this is her fetish or something that might hold up. But it's still dicey. Just fuck her and make sure not to get her pregnant. She's a drunk bro any half decent public defendant could get you off easily with minimal effort. But really I hope you aren't in love with her. Cuz there is NO way there is a happy ending in store for you two

>>734229982
God yer dum.

here, I'll literally copy and past it.

a person is unconscious is incapable of consent

didn't type any of the above sentence. I literally copied and pasted it directly from the statute.

>>734230449
most of those have very well defined case law in common law countries, and no you can not consent to torture or "lethal or crippling bodily harm" that's from warren on homicide.

>He said he would break up with me if I didn't let him record me saying that.

Emotional coercion. The jury would never see that video. The judge would toss it out as inadmissible.

Stop talking about it and fucking get on with it

>>734225823
Rape or not it sounds like shitty sex.

>>734225823
Jesus Christ anon, forget fucking her. Feed her a god damn cheeseburger first. She's borderline anorexic

>>734230223
This line means that you can't fuck an unconscious person on the grounds that they didn't say no, so if nothing is said then it defaults to no consent. I don't think it implies that if they consent to future sex when they are unconscious their consent is revoked as soon as they lose consciousness.

I fuck my GF in her sleep more often than not. She's not even into drugs or alcohol. She likes waking up with me fucking her. Been doing this with her for 7 years

>>734231049
Some newer laws require "ongoing consent" if I remember correctly

>>734225823
moar pics, THAT isn't illegal no matter what

pussy closeup?

>>734230715
Finding a passed out girl in an alley and fucking her because "she didn't say no" isn't the same as fucking a passed out girl who said you can fuck her while she's passed out. The line refers to the first scenario.

>>734225823
don't do it OP consent has to be given at the time future consent doesn't mean shit

>>734230907
Lol "emotional coercion" isn't going to hold up in any court. The only coercion that matters is if she was threatened with potential physical danger. If he said something like "if you don't record this I'll kill you" then it would be thrown out.

>>734231198
If that's the case then I guess I'm wrong

>>734225823
post video or fake

>>734231238
>The line refers to the first scenario.

No, it doesn't. I refers to all scenarios. It is legally rape to put your dick in an unconscious person, regardless of what she said prior to becoming unconscious.

>>734225823
>have a legally binding video of her giving you consent
>HURRDURR IS THIS STILL RAPE?

no you colossal fucking faggot, fuck her, post pics, and post vids.

>>734226195
do NOT fuck her
really doesnt care if you have something recorded or not, if she looks drunk, you are fucked if try to fuck her.

Just forget about her

>>734225823
Florentin Will st du das wirklich hier austragen? Nein! Weil ohnmächtig.d.h. ohne Macht zu verfügen!

>>734231671
The working is ambiguous, is there a source that specifically says that proactive consent is nullified when the person loses consciousness?

>>734232350
wording*

>>734232350
It's not ambiguous. It flatly states that it is illegal.

stale copypasta is stale

>>734232480
see >>734229477

>>734225823

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm going to give my professional legal opinion anyway. You can give consent to a Dr. to cut you up while you are unconscious. Why can't you preemptively consent to sex? I think her consent needs to be in writing, plus you need a witness.

>>734232441
So your answer to the question is no

Both my current and previous wives gave me complete consent, drunk/drugged or not, awake or not.

>>734225823
this is a legally grey area and varies by state
I would recommend reading judicial precedent on the use of a safe word in your state

>>734232954
How can you have a professional legal opinion if you're not a lawyer?

>>734228510
>but it is anon

>>734233041
I'm not going to fucking Google it for (You)

>>734233136

I watched an episode of Matlock once. It was the episode where he fucked a drunk girl when she passed out. He got her signed consent while a 3rd party witnessed it, so he didn't get in trouble.

Just fuck her already

>She wants to have sex but then passes out and you fuck her
It's rape.
>You find her unconscious and she doesn't say yes or no and you fuck her
It's rape
>You are having sex and she passes out in the middle and you continue
It's rape
>She says "I give consent for you to have sex with me while I'm unconscious" and then passes out and you have sex
It's not rape

>>734230715
You are a fucking idiot. A person can not give consent if he/she is unconsciouss.....BUT, if you have written/video proof of this consent while she is conscious AND sober, then...in the United States, it is legally binding, and you are free from retribution.

You MUST be a dumb kid. Feel free to ask those people who have been to law school...what are they called?....oh yeah, a fucking LAWYER!

Damn the feels; I was hammered with my gf several months ago and we were getting into kissing and were already naked. She passed out when I got up for something. I came over and started to rub it out, then put it in her until I came on her stomach. Uuuh. I mean she was fine with it, didn't have a bad feeling to it. This whole thing out a different shade on it.

>>734233256
I've been googling it and can't find anything that addresses the specific scenario, only instances where someone passes out in the middle of sex or people fucking their sleeping spouse where consent was only implied.

>>734231505
In this particular case, you are WRONG.

>>734233405
Again, how is that "professional?"

>>734233548
>it is legally binding

No it isn't. Any consent given prior to becoming unconscious is voided by the unconscious state. It's voided by the legal definition of "Physically helpless"

She gives you permission to fuck her while she's passed out and ur comming to b to ask us for permission Jesus christ faggot go fuck that fleshlight of yours seriously I would have came at least 3 times by now on up her pussy one up her ass and the last load in her mouth to teach that alcohol abusing fleshlight...

So I have no knowledge of law, but I have some knowledge of crazy chicks.

OP, get the fuck out of there now.

Girls who protest when you try and end it then entice you with sex (only thing they know you can't say no to) are up to no good and going to attempt to ruin your life.

Guarantee you someone seriously that extreme is bad news bears.

Limits for her are not normal. If she decides to try and hurt you, those girls actually can.

Run.

There's no helping you till you know though.

>>734233548
I am a lawyer.
It isn't legally possible to have sex with an unconscious person.

>>734233717

I'm a consultant for several Fortune 500 companies. I offer legal advice based on episodes of TV shows I watch. I also own a rocket ship and fuck space women from other planets.

>>734233489
If she is awake and gives consent to fuck, but then passes out DURING, and you continue....this is NOT rape.

>>734233834
So why is consent to a medical procedure not revoked once the person is unconscious? Or do those laws specifically state that consent remains legally binding?

>>734234008
Yes it is.

>>734234008
It actually is unfortunately. In a case where she doesn't specifically say you can keep going if she passes out then consent is automatically revoked. Most women will probably not consider it rape if they can remember having sex, but I knew some people in college that got charged for sexual assault for the same scenario

>>734234042
Medical procedures aren't defined as sexual intercourse.

It's specifically sexual intercourse with an unconscious person that is prohibited by law.

>>734233927
Then, wherever you went to night class law school....you should contact that school and ask for a refund, because you clearly were misinformed.

>>734233989
Ah I see, carry on then.

>>734230449
Not that guy, but you can't in the eyes of the justice system, at least here in the states, other places could be different. The system doesn't care that you consented if it sees it as illegal already.

I'm out. I can feel my intelligence being lowered listening to you stupid fucking people.

>>734225823
put your dick inside her and post a pic

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>>734234286
You're never going to be able to realize your sexual fetish legally. Your fetish is literally illegal.
How does that make you feel?

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Not rape. People can consent to future events. However, be careful not to hurt her, as you easily could (without her pain response) especially if you do anal. Also be careful she doesn't vomit and aspirate the vomit.

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>>734226195
>>734225823
FAKE & GAY

>>734234447
Cool story bitch, no one gives a shit what you do.

>>734234447
"I give up. I don't have the intellect necessary to win this argument"

bye.
>takes victory lap

>>734234541
see >>734229477

>>734234515
It's only illegal if the person presses charges, or you do it out in the open in a park and someone sees you.

>>734228352
No it's not

How often do you feed her?

>>734234649
No, it's still illegal, even if the person doesn't press charges.

>>734234876
Care to cite? If you're the >>734233927 lawyer, it's all in a book or somewhere.

It's illegal to make laws up, as you know.

Post the fucking video faggot

>>734225823
>not making her sign a disclaimer every time you have sex
>ihygddt

>>734234247
It is mind-boggling to me that you actually had to explain this to another human being.

>>734225823
Stale pasta

Sage

>>734225823
So..did you fuck her or not? Pls say yes.

>>734235359
this

>>734228669

I think you're good Op, just get her to sign a form for her to state she consents to having her body used as a fuck toy. She just has to be sober, and make sure you get a notary to make it legit. Also, get 2 witnesses to verify she was sober and willing while she signs it. Also, get a mental health evaluation on her as well just to be safe.

>>734235479
The judge would never allow the jury to see that form.

It isn't admissible evidence.

I'd love to have a girlfriend like yours. I'd fuck her passed out everyday and i would take pics and vids too

>>734226261
Fucking retard is incorrect.use summer, the kids are out of school

>>734226717
Are you sure it applies here, sir? I would think that law is aimed at girls not intending to lose consciousness. Still, you are likely correct.

>>734235834
Lurk moar, it's never enough.

>>734235735

I would appeal the ruling and take this all the way up to the Supreme Court. I would have my fantasy flesh light girlfriend, no matter what it took.

>>734233989

You sound just like me!

>>734229330
The man has a point.

>>734235735

You're reading the law wrong, read it the way where OP gets to fuck his drunk girlfriend.

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>>734225823
FUCKING DO IT AND POST PICS.

>>734229330
>Think about it you moron

You're asking someone who pretends to be a lawyer to think. Don't hold your breath.

>>734235976
A supreme court appeal costs on average half a million dollars.

>you couldn't afford it.

>>734236173
No, you're reading the law wrong, which I confounds me because it's clearly written.

>>734225823
Sounds like she made that recording while drunk, so it wouldn't hold up in court. Hell, even if she was sober she could just say she was drunk when the recording was made. Also, downing that much alcohol could kill her. You don't want her found dead with your manonnaise inside her.

Tread lightly, OP.

>>734236173
Which word do you not understand? >>734228669

"A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages
in sexual intercourse with another person .... who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless"


""Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious"

>>734236605

7. "Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious or for any
other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an
act.

but.. she has communicated willingness to act while conscious and intended to be unconscious for this specific act to occur.

No different from asking a surgeon to cut open your body while you're unconscious.

I WIN!

>>734225823
I find your lack of nudes disturbing.

>>734237045
>but.. she has communicated willingness to act while conscious and intended to be unconscious for this specific act to occur.

Irrelevant. No judge would allow a jury to know she did that.

>>734225823
holy dear fucking christ Jesus Xenu
OP you've won

>>734225823
>she downs two-thirds of a bottle of Jameson in 20 seconds
Sorry, whiskey don't work that way.

>>734237142

The law does not specify the scenario where the person indented to be unconscious. The law then becomes open to interpretation where this evidence becomes relevant.

>>734237447
Right. And in the absence of such specification, the law is generally applied. There is no scenario where such an exception is legal.

>>734237373
shoenice would beg to differ

>>734237447
>The law then becomes open to interpretation where this evidence becomes relevant.

Nope.

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>>734225823
i dont really care what you do with your hand

>>734237587

Generally speaking, rape is defined by a person having sex with another that did not give consent. In this situation, consent was given for this specific act to occur.

>>734236995

She already consented, on video. Not evben under duress. It's her sex kink, it's ok to "rape" your wife if she wants it, if its her kink. Watch the little death movie, its in there.

>>734237856
It isn't legally possible for a woman to give consent to a man to have sex with her unconscious body.

Even if she says she is ok with it, it is still legally rape.

>>734237936
No jury would ever see that video. The judge would consider the video prejudicial and toss it because the contents of the video are irrelevant.

She isn't legally capable of giving consent to this behavior.

>>734238003

Why is it legal to allow a surgeon to cut open your unconscious body?

>>734238124
We've been over this >>734235177 >>734234247

>>734238218

You're just a Republican who doesn't like it when women are making choices about their own bodies.

>>734237936
>>734237856
>>734237773
>>734237637
>>734237591
>>734237373
>>734237148
>>734237142
>>734237121
as long as she doesn't have a trauma afterwards and you don't get sued it wasn't rape
>discussion end

>>734228510
>otherwise drunk driving would be a crime

>>734225823
Doesn't the image file say it was taken on April 28th?

>>734238366
I'm not a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or a Democratic Socialist.
I'm an independent, nonpartisan citizen who understands the law better than you do.

It isn't me that you hate, it's the act of the state always treating women like special snowflakes that you hate.

>>734238366
Republicans dont have any problem whatsoever with giving women a choice about their bodies.

What planet/ country are you in that republicans think this?

Im in the US so I guess your in Canada?

>>734238686
I'm a Libertarian

>>734238429
It is rape. Not wanting it to be rape doesn't magically redefine the law.

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>>734238763
A fetus isn't a person. It's an appendage.

Getting an abortion is no more immoral than an individual deciding to remove an extra pinky finger.

>>734225823
some states have a mutual inebriation clause
so as long as you get as drunk as her you're good to go

>>734238686

The law does not specifying someone intending to be unconscious, there is also no intent to rape.

I know the law better than you, and I'm wearing a diaper right now because that's my fetish.

>>734238954
Yeah you know cause your pinkie grows independently from the rest of your body till it makes retarded comments like yours one day.

>>734239018
And in the absence of such a specification, the law is applied GENERALLY.

>>734234517
>this

>>734239320

Op is following the spirit of the law. She gave him permission to do this to her. I would fight this case tooth and nail, but I don't care enough to become a real lawyer.

>>734225823
>don't fuck her
>convince her to sue the state on the grounds that the law prohibits her from fulfilling her sexual need
>????
>profit

>>734240293
>She gave him permission to do this to her
Irrelevant. It is still rape.

>>734240721
>permission
>rape

Post pics

>>734225823
your a fucktard just put your damn dick in her

>>734241015
The state decides when a girl can give a consent, not a girl.
For example. A girl under the age of 16 cannot give consent, even if she gives permission.

I'm beginning to suspect that you're an anarchist. You just don't understand that state law is paramount.

>>734240721

No intent, she wants this, Op is trying to help her complete her sexual fantasy.

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, its a sad day in America when a faggot can't fuck his passed out girlfriend when he just tried dump her ass earlier in the day for being an alcoholic"

I win, I'm the better lawyer.

>>734227367
Isn't that entrapment, Mr Fed?

>>734225823
>that happened

lel fucking newfags

>>734242119
Emotional coercion makes prenuptial agreements invalid. The same could be said for this video.

>He threatened to break up with me if I didn't let him record me saying that
Did he tell you what to say?
>yes.
Did you make any mistakes and have to rerecord segments of it?
>yes

I'm sorry, but cannot allow the jury to see this video. First, it was created under coercion. Second, there is no witness to verify that she wasn't intoxicated while it was being made.

>inadmissible

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>>734227367
I just had a thought.

What if the reason we haven't heard from Op is because he's currently in a taxi cab on his way to the Grand Hyatt and his girlfriend is in the trunk of the cab?

>>734242613

My assumption that it was not under coercion. Yes, obviously if it was coerced, it's inadmissible. I also said earlier that there should have been a 3rd party to witness the creation of the video, and signing of a statement giving Op permission to do this.

>>734225823
>drink with you gf enabling her addiction
>still blame only her
its the level of stupidity i would expect form people here that elevates this from made up shit to made ups hit probably

>>734242971
>you're

ftfy

>>734242971
Where does it say anywhere in this thread that Op drank anything?

>>734243185
Dosnt matter if he drank a fucking cola only, they are out drinking, or at home drinking
So op is a fag who cant even take responsibility for his own bullshit yet alone ask others to take it for them self

But as i sooner believe pigs fly that any thread without time stamp that didnt get pulled out of 5min phothsop job then its a pointless discussion ether way

>>734229330
it says if they are unable to give consent while the sex is happening, nigger. It doesn't matter whether consent is given or not, if the law says someone is unconscious it is illegal to fuck them.

>>734229000
nice trips

>>734225823
Your gf is literally jim lahey.

This is something tonnes of couple do including myself. Do it.

>>734226261
Fuckin rekt