The UK is losing its internet for good. >not allowed to

What the fuck Britiania?

>already worship a rotted old twat
>already can't have guns
>already cant have knives
>already have cameras everywhere
>already have sharia law
>already being outbred by muslims
>already have censorship and no guaranteed freedom of speech
You fucks were already slaves. You don't know how to be anything but cucks, and every time another way to be cucked even harder than you already were comes along, you lay down and assume the position.

It was only a matter of time.

>>734022695
>already can't have guns
Where do murricans keep getting these ideas about euros? Guns are available in Europe just the same at half the cost (proportional too, market demand is just much lower so lower prices)

Hi Jeremy

>>734022166
You know the irony is most of that wouldn't have been possible without a break from the EU.
Guess you really pulled a fast one on them guise.

freedom and democracy and free speech in uk ? forget its dying

>>734022166
It's dangerous. This shit is worthy of riots.

The UK is just a corrupt cuck paradise. It's full of retarded cabbages that think they're edgy but in secret collect biscuit tins with the Queen on.

>>734023062
>I don't know anything about gun control laws in the UK
Discarded

>>734022695
1.3million gun licenses in the U.K.

>>734022166
Not going to lie; no under-18 posting sounds like heaven to me. The quality of the world wide web would skyrocket immediately.

>>734022166
Is it appropriate to call her Kim Jong Cunt yet?

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>>734023436
Looks like someone found wikipedia huh. Or what, did you use /pol/ or some shit?

Euro here, licensed to own and transport, industrial quantities. You can get a permit in the UK no problem, it's just a matter of asking at your local PD. If you're not a felon and you're not a POI they'll rubberstamp it for you and off to the gunstore you go.

What do you think Brits are firing at foxes in those iconic hunts, nevermind at the gun ranges they have? Witty quips?

>>734022166
I think you need to work on your English comprehension. Most of your bullet points are incorrect and in any case based on the Idependent's sensationalist hyped up version of a Buzzfeed article.

>>734023625
I know that douchebag really did a number of them.
I could cite the articles each of those bullet points would violate from memory pretty much. The gov't monitoring of communications has been a point of contention given that it violates the right to not cooperate in self-incrimination, chiefly where RIPA goes beyond the norm and makes legal measures available to prosecute someone for not volunteering e.g. passcodes.

Hence May pushed an even more draconian fourth RIPA right at the end of last year. Frankly this break in intel sharing with the UK will be a godsend given their proclivity for illicit/unethical use of those measures.

>>734022166
>mandatory back doors in all technology companies and messaging services
How are they going to pull that off with non-brit companies?
Kind of doubtful that Sony is going to root the Vita and PS4 for them. There was talk here in the US a few months ago about a few southern states wanting to push for adult content to be blocked on all web-capable devices unless you payed a $300 unblocking fee to the state. Everyone pretty much just laughed off the idea of South Carolina pushing the international information industry around with a state law. Considering that the UK is about the size of Alabama these days, I can't imagine a british law would have much more chance than a south carolina law.

>>734023503
>1% of people are granted temporary licenses to possess guns
>and everything must be kept under lock and key
>can be taken away with a single call from a neighbor
>"S-see? W-we r-really d-DO ha-have r-rights!"
Like I said. You're a nation of complete and utter cucks.

>>734024179
They make local franchises within their jurisdiction install it in locally serviced products. In the case of an online service, all the data is already stored in their private DB and usually hosted in this case out of the same country, but normally it's restricted - the state can't just barge its way in and demand access.

This is where regulations like RIPA come in, and this is why large internet companies segment their DB thusly. Different codes apply to users from different jurisdictions.

>>734023714
>Brits
>hunting foxes
AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Fox hunting was outlawed over a decade ago, dipshit.

>>734024270
Does imagining these scenarios actually introduce some joy to your existence? Or is it just vitriol from an otherwise badly mixed up malcontent?

>>734024179

Companies are already doing that for the Chinese market. The UK market isn't that much less important.

>>734024610
>can't refute
>resorts to ad hominem
Cucks, The lot of you.

And what's worse, you know it and still do nothing.

>>734024803
You mean I do nothing about not being able to legally own the licenses that I legally have to enable me to own the guns I already legally possess?

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>>734024445
You're just talking about turning over hosted data, though. I'm talking about mandatory back doors in tech. There was a huge debate last year about whether or not the US Government could compel Apple to write a tool to crack an iphone, and that was for unlocking a known terrorist's phone for national security reasons. The request was also for a one-time use where after that one phone was unlocked Apple could destroy the software that cracked it It got shot down.

This is britain wanting to mandate pre-installation of basically the same thing to permanently remain in every device, just on GP. It's not going to happen.

It doesn't matter, I'm behind seven proxies.

If you listen to the main parties the lib dems are the only ones calling for more individual freedom

>>734024963
Rather, you do nothing to change the system so that you DO NOT NEED licenses to enjoy those things, because you have rights to them instead.

>>734025129
I know they requested that, but it doesn't work like that. That being said the language in RIPA is much more broad than that. It essentially allows any state authorities access to any data by a person on British soil, and allows them to demand passwords or jail people until they comply.

This is a pretext to authorize in part, cooperations like these.

Couldn't we just use a vpn based outside the UK, or even tor?

>>734025479
If it's a right in the US why can't felons own them?
Moreover I would really like to be able to deny obvious schizophrenics firearms. If you can't make your way through a PD to request a (free!) license, without causing such a hysterical mess about globalist fema death camps that you have to be wrestled to the ground and don't get around to the license itself, then I think you shouldn't be able to handle firearms. Or sharp objects, or go out without an adult, but we gotta start somewhere.

What about large-scale VPNs and TOR? Can "forbidden" or otherwise state-monitored or controlled traffic fly under the radar through encryption-driven anonymity?

>>734024556
With horses and hounds, retard. Guns are just fine

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>>734025671
So you think the state should decide who has the Correct Mental Mindset to own a weapon? You know where that road leads, don't you?

>>734025996
So you believe that psychologically unstable people with an obvious history of dangerous behavior should be armed?

>>734025498
>demand passwords or jail people until they comply.
And that has absolutely fuck-all to do with requiring tech companies to pre-install back doors in software. That, SPECIFICALLY, is what I'm saying will not happen. I'm not even arguing whether or not they can demand the user's password, I'm saying that achieving "all tech devices have back doors" is absolutely impossible. Not only due to the tech companies being very proactive about securing their customers' data, but also the fact that even *if* this implausible cooperation actually took place anyone could still boot any computer with a Linux bootable usb that didn't have that bullshit written into it. You'd have to eradicate every currently existing Linux iso from the web in order for this rule to actually prevent people from using devices that don't have back doors.
IT.
WILL.
NOT.
HAPPEN.

>>734025671
>If it's a right in the US why can't felons own them? Or the insane?
It's this little thing called "due process of law", perhaps you've heard of it.
In America, it is the ONE proper Constitutionally allowed mechanism for taking away a citizen's rights. If they've been found to be preying on other citizens, or found not mentally competent, then yes, their rights can legally be taken away.
But the presumption always begins with freedom in America. It is exactly the opposite in Britain.

>>734026153
I notice you didn't answer my question. You tell me why we can trust the state to never abuse the power to say, "This person has the wrong mentality, disarm them" - and I'll tell you what should be done with
>psychologically unstable people with an obvious history of dangerous behavior

>>734026517
>or found not mentally competent
You just raised a dystopian shitfit about that.

>>734025996
> you think the state should decide who has the Correct Mental Mindset to own a weapon? You know where that road leads, don't you?

In an authoritarian state? Yes.
In a democracy? Try again.

Can you niggers please stop squabbling and answer whether or not vpn/tor would be any use.

>>734025968
>with dogs
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nope.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_Act_2004

>>734026555
Stop being a dramaqueen snowflake. This isn't about political ideology. I said person of interest or a convict, i.e. there's a documented history and in the case of dangerous mental instabilities, psychological diagnosis and a history of incidents. This isn't about some liberal terkin yer conservative guns away, there has to be a concrete reason for dismissing the license.

>>734026666
>6666
Noice

>>734023714

dogs kill the foxes on hunts anon. That's why it's barbaric. they rip them to shreds.

They aren't shot at.

>>734026617
>thinking mob rule never leads to oppression in a "democracy"
Tell that to gay people and blacks in the 1960s. Or religious bakeries and racists now.

>>734026691
lrn2read, idiot.
he said that horses and hounds are no longer legal, but guns are

>>734026469
>>734026469
>Not only due to the tech companies being very proactive about securing their customers' data
Local authorities permitting, of course.

You're also assuming the solution is sofware based. Let me remind you of the clipper chip. Moreover, let me remind you of the fact that when you control the IP traffic in the country, you don't need anyone's cooperation on individual products. Other than when traffic is encrypted. In which case, like with China, Iran and the US, the authorities will approach the vendor and convince them to cooperate or pack their shit and leave, far as British customers are concerned.

>>734022166
unfortunate, but conservatives still win. Going to be great seeing the lefty butthurt on Friday morning.

>>734026582
Maybe, and there's lots of debate about the standards of mental competence as it is applied in courts of law in America.
Still, I would argue that individual review is still much better than blanket prohibitions.

>>734026811
What if its connected via tor, meaning that locating all the nodes would be likely impossible and therefore won't reveal the source

>>734025634
>>734025762
>>734026666
Legitimate question gets posted and you cunts ignore it to talk about guns and foxes?

Fuck.

>>734026751
Incidently those oppressing blacks and gays tend to be the largest group of gun owners. Coincidence?

>>734027040
>>>734025634
>>>734025762
>>>734026666
yes, but why should we?

>>734026939
It's not impossible, but it's also not really an issue. Tor presents an extremely limited scope. The only thing it's used for is scams, silk road, pedo chats and a couple of terrorist cells.

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>>734026693
So you're denying the possibility that one will lead to the other? There were never dissenters in the USSR, or intellectuals in Caambodia, or Hutus in Rwanda, or whites in Zimbabwe, that had their rights taken away because they belonged to the Wrong Group?
"It can't happen here" is one of the most dangerous mentalities that exists. For God's sake, we used to say that about the US, and they just elected Donald Fucking Trump.

>>734027141
I'm not saying we should, I'm asking whether it'd actually help or not. Learn to read.

Just paving the way for Sharia law

>>734027152
most retarded thing I've read.

>>734023167
wouldn't happen if they just got UKIP in charge, the ones who started brexit in the first place

>>734027175
If you're worried about an admin changing the laws from requiring no violent crime record/documented violent psychological issues, into "anybody they dislike," then why are you not worried about an admin changing it from any other preexisting situation into that? You're splitting hairs.

>>734027203
Learn to phrase your question. Yes it would work. Does that answer your very, very basic question?

>>734027152
You are thinking of deepweb, not tor.
Tor can be used to browse Facebook if wanted, it's just commonly associated with illegal shit by autists.

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>>734027117
So you think that these Oppressors are Problematic and should have their rights taken away. Is that what I'm getting from you?

>>734027276
UKIP has literally never done anything ever in the history of their existence.
The only policy they've pushed undermined British interests for duplicitous PR stunts back home.

>>734026820
kill yourself

>>734026811
>Let me remind you of the clipper chip
Okay, you reminded me.
Now try convincing me that britain is going to somehow force every electronics manufacturer all over the globe to include such a thing. They can only mandate it of companies in Britain and/or refuse to allow sale of non-british phones/computers/consoles/etc.

How many british game console manufacturers are there? smartphone companies? laptop manufacturers?
Again, good fucking luck forcing Sony and Apple with orders from the Queen.

>>734022166
CUCKED

>>734027330
ah, someone who knows how it works.

>>734027330
Then you're not on Tor dingus. You're just using the Tor browser for regular HTTP traffic.

>>734027360
China has the same demands. Only Google has backed out of offering its services there. And that gap was succinctly filled by another party.

>>734027358
maybe I don't have to wait that long.
a labour voter I take it?

>>734027315
Yes, it finally answers my very basic question, thank fuck I didnt ask anything complex otherwise you'd have an aneurysm

>>734027403
which comes with the same benefits of anonymity you gibbering idiot.

>>734027403
You simple simple fool...

>>734024270
my refute is that guns dont help and your country has a massive gun violence problem shown by the death rate,both civ and inflicted by the police force.... still waiting for how you expect to shoot a terrorist with a shrapnel bomb backpack

>>734027276
>>734027354

>vote for jewkip

You might as well vote for Gary Johnson while you're at it.

>>734027471
Your are clearly technically ignorant, but no shame in that. Are there any other simple concepts I can assist you with?

>>734027537
Oh man you're going to freeze up when that bubble gets burst.
Do yourself a favor. Go read up some documentation on how Tor works. Not some hippie blog post about "it sends traffic like everywhere and no one can find you." Read into the protocol and find out why if you're not on .onion addresses, you're not anonymous in the slightest.

>>734027280
>why are you not worried about an admin changing it from any other preexisting situation into that?
Aha, I've found your incorrect assumption about me. I should have been clearer. Maybe this will clear things up:
No one may, morally, take any human rights away from anyone ever. That's pretty much the definition of a right. For those who have specifically transgressed against other persons or their property, remunerative action may be needed that would necessarily break the above rule, and that should be kept to an absolute minimum - and it's really brought on by the transgressor themself for voluntarily taking actions they knew would lead to those consequences.

>>734027332
>you think the state should decide who has the Correct Mental Mindset to own a weapon?
Just answering the question. A democratic state should indeed be able to do this.

What is a vpn..

>>734027666
low quality bait.

>>734027454
There are two distinct differences here.
1: China is where most electronics are manufactured to begin with
2: China is seriously 1/5 of the entire global population
China mandating a chip on all electronics produced in China actually means something. "All of the phones produced in Britain" is a fucking joke.

>>734027701
Right but it seems like we've got identical laws with slightly different naming conventions, but somehow my situation is apocalypse now while you're in the clear.

>>734027776
Pissed off analyst getting his work complicated.

>>734022166
lmaoooo no. No, no one likes theTories this year so unless no fucker votes, those policies won't even happen. I mean the bitch wants to fuck up the poor, bring back fox hunting, take away free healthy meals from school children, fuck up free healthcare and take away internet privacy.

>>734027790
>All of the phones produced in Britain
*sold in Britain.
It's ambitious, sure. But you were asking for edification. And it would not be the first time.

>>734027807
What do you analyse and why are you pissed off?

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>>734027737
And when a Democratic State votes in the new NSDAP, and they decide that Judaism is incompatible with a Modern Mindset, you're ok with their rights being taken away by the Democratically Elected government?

>>734027898
No you nimrod it's a crack insinuating you're a cyberint analyst who just had his parade rained on when someone announced that misusing Tor doesn't provide them anonymity.

>>734027996
you fell for that.....

>>734027791
Possibly. Pecking away at my phone on an Egyptian waterboarding forum is not the clearest way to communicate political philosophy.

>>734024445
So I can just buy one in France to avoid all this nonsense?

>>734027996
He didn't claim misuse, he claimed using tor to browse the clear web didn't give anonymity.

>>734024968
The legend

>>734028148
If I'm in a jurisdiction I find iffy I use a VPN in Netherlands, good laws to cover my security, history of bureaucrats honoring that arrangement and shooting down foreign parties requesting they subvert the process.

Generated the key and set up the server in NL, so no chance it was documented in the exchange. Any traffic of mine then doesn't become decrypted until it's flowing out of Amsterdam.

>>734022166
You do realize that the backdoors have already been in for years?

This shit makes me so angry I could almost get my butter knife out from the safe and just lose it

>>734022695
>already have ugly teeth

>>734028198
Even though it does? You can even have tor running on your router so evey single program and application runs through tor.

>>734024270
cry a little bit less after the next school shooting.

>>734023062
Ek het 'n gewaar, asseblief.

>>734028405
What vpn do you use?

>>734028563
Yes, you and I agree.

>>734028756
Evoswitch is a reliable party.

>>734027881
>*sold in Britain.
Pointless.
And let me clarify this one last time:
The can only LEGALLY REQUIRE the chip's installation IN THEIR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY.
They can say "we don't want to import phones that don't have this chip" but that just means those phones will be bought outside the UK and brought in by individual customers (unless you waste a ridiculous amount of taxpayer resources on phone inspections). That does not MANDATE cooperation from the manufacturer, it just hopes the manufacturer cares enough to retool entire assembly lines for your silly limey royal decree (don't bet on it) so you aren't denying your constituents the phones that they want to buy.

>>734022166
>bomb civilians over and over
>complains about refugees
kys, all of you.

>>734028987
Right but you're asking me what a hypothetical situation might look like where they enact such a policy.
And the simple answer is, they force vendors to install it during overlay in the UK before the goods go to market.

>>734028874
I've had a quick look on Google and it seems they provide connection but not the client. How do you join their network? Where do you find a key? They don't give much info

>>734029121
set your own machine up in AWS or Azure in a remote region and use that.

>>734029121
The client?
I just set up a Linux VPS and installed a VPN server on it.

>>734028987
clipper chip all over again.

>>734029222
I've no idea what the fuck any of that means. All the vpns ive had were just downloadable

>>734025220
OI! IS DAT A KNOIFFEEE?

>>734029252
And how do you do that? Do you need a separate pc to act as a server, again, you faggots like to act knowledgeable yet give zero details on how its done. Almost as if you don't know yourselves

>>734022166
I've been hearing yanks chat this shit since the dawn of the internet, still waiting, still can get on porn sites, can torrent, still posting on 4chan.
Nigger cunt fuck spick gook paki etc.
Oh look, my speech wasn't censored by the government.
etc.
How do I know you're American? Because you people are obsessed with our island, inferiority complex much?!

>>734029306
You are aware of the existence of "the cloud"? In simple terms this means virtual machines you can buy by the hour. You buy one run your own VPN endpoint and connect your client machine to it. Ok so Amazon / Microsoft can still see the exit traffic if they chose to but you local ISP can't.

>>734027963
Give me one historical example of a pure democratic state that has crossed this line. And don't even try to mention the Weimarrepublik, since we both know that was just a farce.

>>734029430
They're too autistic to communicate in humanese

>>734029512
Yeh, because amazon and Microsoft definitely don't work with law enforcement now do they? Topkek

It sounds like just Tor would be safer

>>734029430
My apologies, I forget that you tards aren't technically knowledgable. Here's a guide: https://www.webdigi.co.uk/blog/2015/how-to-setup-your-own-private-secure-free-vpn-on-the-amazon-aws-cloud-in-10-minutes/

>>734027996
It only makes you as anonymous as you allow it to. If you allow certain things to run on it, you are screwed.

>>734029710
>amazon
Welcome to the data harvester

>>734029430
http://www.servermom.org/build-openvpn-ubuntu-server/

>>734029725
The page could load a CSS sheet or an image and still call back to a honeypot. And that's if you're on actual Tor, but you haven't disabled regular HTTP links.
Using the Tor browser for regular HTTP traffic, you're entirely at the mercy of the host in terms of confidentiality. And it doesn't disperse your traffic either.

>>734029657
It would but the question wasn't about Tor, it was about VPNs. BTW Tor is only safe if your browsing an HTTPS site on the clear web. If it's HTTP game over, the operator of the exit node can see everything and inject what they like in to the unencrpyted HTTP response.

Just getting this in while I can, FUCK THE QUEEN

>>734027996
Tor does provide anonymity. That's the entire purpose of the protocol. Obviously you wont be anonymous if you declare who you are but no protocol can protect you from that. If you know of vulnerabilities in the protocol that can be used to deanonymise people there are bounties available. But you don't, you're just some retard who saw some shitty news report about some patch that was made on a method to deanonymise people on tor in very specific scenarios. Don't tell people to read the docs when you clearly have done no research yourself. Fucking degenerate.

Porn has been weaponized by jews, it's no longer this liberating and sexy product. Black male white female porn is being spammed all over the internet, we should encourage the ban.

>>734029789
Threat models. threat models. I don't believe they can capture and store all the traffic from all of their client's machines. So they have to target what they are looking at. If you're in a country like the UK where the ISP are going to start collecting sites visited then this is a very real option.

>>734022166

consericucks will keep defending the conservative agenda, right up until they're not allowed to use computers anymore.

>>734029975
You're not using the Tor protocol if you're not visiting a Tor address bruh. Then it's just a regular ole browser with some plugins you're not using.

>>734029883
er, you realise it doesn't matter who wins the election the queen is still here.

>>734026820
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_Act_2004

you won't see it because you won't be allowed to post and neither will they... lol

>>734030065
Labourcucks will keep defending the Marxist agenda right up until they'e not allowed to be straight white men anymore.

>>734030189
Not sure if this is bait or you're retarded.

>>734023436
neither do you, guns are legal in UK just heavy restrictions and no hand guns.

>>734029880
>>734029882
>>734029975
>>734030189
If HTTPS is so important then how come all of the .onion sites start with HTTP?

Source: https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/page/6/

>>734030232
unlike you I go out in to the real world and speak to people so I'll be able to see it first hand.

>>734022166

The UK right now is literally what would of happened if hillary would of won.

>>734030197
Not long hopefully, the old cunt

>>734022166
The problem is no-one is talking about this.

I'm in Britain, I've read an article or two on a news app, but seen nothing from the TV, from news or from left-wing political shows, I've seen nothing from the opposition about it.
They slipped in the snooper's charter under everyone's nose without any real fight back.
And, of course, under 18s, who probably make the majority of the people who would care enough to change their vote for it, can't vote.

There is nowhere near the same idea of free speech etc. here as there is over in America, it is seen as something which can be thrown away, as are internet freedoms.
And the fucking cyber-crime all over the news doesn't help either.

>>734030048
They will only start collecting if Torys win again, if Labour win then things might be ok

>>734030365
.onion sites are an exception they are always encrypted. HTTPS is important if you browse the clearweb through TOR.

>>734030065
The whole political situations fucked. Who to vote for?

Conservitives - Shit but only ones for good brexit deal.

Labor - Fucking joke of a party.

Everyone else - nochance.

Don't vote. whats the point.

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>>734022166
Your government has failed you. Replace them with the Monarchy for gods sakes.

>>734030439
At least you'd have proper grammar though, aye?

>>734027547
Most gun violence happens in gun free zones with illigal firearms. Also we have less home invasions because we can protect ourselves.

>>734030475
>Not long hopefully, the old cunt
I see you're more of a Prince Charles man. Unusual, but I respect you nonetheless.

>>734030287
More like *this* post is desperate wishful thinking to offset the rising blood pressure from knowing you were browsing lolis without a digital rubber.

>>734030365
Onion sites use HTTP, HTTPS is HTTP with an encryption layer on top. It syncs a key upon connection and encrypts traffic between you and the host you're connected with, but it's still using HTTP.

HTTPS allows feasible protection of your information in transit between the two via encryption, so someone intercepting it would have to decode it.

In both cases the key benefit to Tor isn't encryption, but rather a routing algorhythm that allows you plausible deniability by not creating a pure direct link, but rather traveling through arbitrarily selected Tor nodes. Onion sites use this protocol, which is supported by your Tor browser which is otherwise a regular web browser.

>>734030611

Seriously even the old as shit queen and he semi inbred family could do a better job. What next? Labor? Fuck that shit.

>>734030197
Clear bait but I'll respond to educate if anything.
You are still on the tor protocol if you browse the clearweb with the tor browser, you go through 3 nodes and an exit node.

>>734025146
proxies won't help you if they build a separate web

>>734030521
The day this was brought to light, BBC news decided to use their time that day to shit on Corbyn as usual and show some shit choir singing and talking about Brexit. It's a fucking joke.

>>734027547
>your country has a massive nigger problem
FTFY.

>>734030527
>if Labour win then things might be ok
Corbyn is such a cuck he'd only implement all of May's policies without the benefit of Brexit.

>>734025146
Proxies don't do shit if they're watching *your* connection.

>>734030527
Not so my friend. The investigatory powers bill has received royal assent and is on the statue book (it's law):
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigatory-powers-bill-receives-royal-assent

>>734024270

Gotta be 18 to buy kitchen cutlery...

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>>734022166
See, this is the reason why we have the 2nd Amendment, overthrowing the government. You British faggots could learn a lot from us if you weren't so far up your own dumb asses.

>>734022166
I fully support nobody under 18 allowed on the internet.

>>734030666
Nah, they're all a bunch of kiddy fiddling aristocratic benefit leeches.

>>734030574
>good brexit deal.
Your choice is made.

>>734030671
So what is safer, an onion site running of HTTP with the Tor encryption

Or

A HTTPS clearweb address with the anonymity of Tor

corbyn is an incompetent commie fuckwit who LITERALLY praises terrorists.
i dont like torys either but there #lessshitthanlabour

but will this help hunt and execute every single muslim in the country? i aint taking any chances, the ony good muslim is a dead muslim

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>>734030889
Think about it. If your people had a constitutional right to bear arms, you could easily overthrow the government with minimal resistance. All of your military spending goes into your navy.

What good is a navy when you're already within the country?

>>734030611
I've often thought that people invested in it for life might be better than the ex-lawyers (and so many are) who are in it for just a few years and damn the consequences of what they might do.

why do people seem to think that not being able to carry knives in public is the same as not being able to own them

>>734026469
Except the normies and mudslimes who inhabit the uk have no idea what linux is

>>734030909
I wouldn't use Tor in any situation. If I'm trying to keep traffic on the downlow I'm not going to sprinkle it around thousands of random nodes in a network thats built up notoriety with the authorities.

>>734024270
>>if you don't have guns you're cucks

This is what retarded americunts actually believe.
Must be hard being so fucking brainwashed.

>>734030948
you are terminally stupid

You guys deserve it, you basically put the femenine version of the penguin on command. God I can't even look at Theresa May without feeling the need to clean myself.

>>734030838
Yes but thats only to view people of interest, the new laws she's trying to get passed would allow spying and censoring of all UK ISPs customers

>>734029396
Only cockneys speak like that.
Educate yourself, faggot.

>>734023503
You really register guns when you buy them over there? I mean we talk about it here but seldomly do unless it's from a actual store or some shit.

>>734030671
Even lower quality bait.

>>734030521
Well the cyber crimes are over blown to make the majority see no problem with some freedom loss to feels safe spaced.

>>734030909
Same.

>>734031052
For fuck sake.

So what would you use?

Nothing?

Fucking muslims ruining our world country by country. Soon all non muslims will legit have to fight

>>734031101
She was never voted in.
Hopefully won't be.

>>734031191
Depends on the situation, but not Tor.

>>734031148
Yeah it prevents any old retard getting their hands on them.

>>734031200
It's nothing to do with muslims, it's conservative Christians.

>>734031052
So you'll just spaff if all from you own IP that your ISP can link to you?

>>734031233
Brilliant answer, so detailed and informative.
Thanks!

>>734031062
>thinking Corbyn is in any way fit to run the country
Better stupid than deluded.

>I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that if they build their own internet, VPN, proxies and TOR will be useless.

I'm sure their web would still be connected to the WWW in some way, but it would be much easier to control the information passing through. I assume the servers for this web would be supervised by the government as well so setting up proxies on this web would be nearly impossible

>>734030671
>otherwise a regular web browser
To re-iterate - you can browse the clearweb on tor. You are still anonymised via the same protocol it just involves an exit node instead of an onion website on the other end. Clearweb browsing is the vast majority of the traffic on the tor network.
Most onions dont use HTTPS because your connection is encrypted between the nodes already and the certs dont provide much extra benefit against a state adversary because you would have to trust the CAs. It does matter when you browse clearweb on tor however as exit nodes can otherwise intercept your traffic.

>>734031109
Have I missed that? What's it called?

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>>734022166

>>734031327
Did I say that?

Labour could be run by my cat and they'd be a stronger choice than the current shower of Tory arseholes.

>>734031401
Google it

>>734030574
>Don't vote. whats the point.

You have literally no right to complain when the result comes out, whatever it may be. And yet, I know you're going to - every mopey twat who decides not to vote because "hurr durr what's the point" are the dumb cunts who complain the loudest when the winner is announced. And it literally won't matter to you pricks who the winner is - you'll complain regardless.

Fuck ANYONE that decides not to vote because "why bother". As Minor Threat once said, you tell me I make no difference, at least I'm fucking trying. Fuck you.

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lol voting for conservatives and expecting privacy

>>734031377
>It does matter when you browse clearweb on tor however as exit nodes can otherwise intercept your traffic.
But they will still have your header, source and destination addresses.

So all you really achieved was routing your traffic through additional nodes that may be compromised. Which, in the case of a Tor exit node, may be running out of an FBI datacenter, given their notoriety and how long they've been around.

>>734030909
Onion site is better because tor exit nodes can intercept traffic.

>>734031481
I have, it's the bill I previously referred to.

Too late.

>>734031604
I guess you meant can't rather than can?

>>734031377
>>734031600
Additionally your HTTPS encryption matters fairly little when the handshake is performed across the same channel, and we're ruling out CA's. It's like you're handing them a key and then forking over the lockbox counting on them not being able to access it.

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>>734030611
whoa!

>>734024270
But do you think guns should even be allowed in the US? Most of the world is doing fine without guns.

>>734031648
Not up to date then faggit.
Snoopers charter allows spying of people of interest, not the whole country.

>>734031604
Not if the clearweb site is HTTPS.

>>734031377
Your source address will just be a tor node though and you can't do jack shit with that

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>>734022166
So pretty much, all you'll be able to do is play RuneScape and maybe bully some people there.

You get what you vote for.

>>734031664
Except we aren't ruling out CAs.

>>734031452
This isn't a choice between the lesser of two evils. Corbyn is so incompetent he'll set the country back half a millennia, we won't have any internet to censor.

>>734031375
In the US it already runs through Fusion Centers.

>>734031783
Nobody voted for May.

>>734031790
The fuck are ca's

>>734031798
And you say I'm deluded

>>734031650
No I meant can. One of the main issues with exit nodes is the fact that they can intercept traffic and tamper with it, most servers caught doing this are removed fairly quickly though. This only occurs when browsing the clearweb not onion sites.

>>734031695
can we stop discussing guns and start discussing ways to not have our privacy disappear. thanks

>>734031722
You're behind the times friend. The snoopers charter is the Investigatory Powers bill which became law on 31/12/2016.

People who are saying Theresa will get a good Brexit deal, you're the reason we need eugenics.
She doesn't give a flying fuck about immigration control! She does want to rip away rights etc. controlled by the EU, just look at the dementia tax, look at the NHS...
Corbyn will completely cuck on everything, but there's no good Brexit candidate at all, stop acting like there is.

>>734031878
Dibs on all your shit when we become a communist state

>>734031853
Certificate authorities. Parties that maintain keys for HTTPS. Absent a CA, you'd have to first exchange keys over the same channel you're *about* to have encrypted communication on, the key for that same encryption, which means that unless someone came in halfway through they can decrypt your traffic without trouble.

>>734031894
I only ever use tor to browse onion sites so hopefully all is gravy. I'll continue this method if May's nazi powers are allowed

>>734031925
Go out and vote when the elections come. Someone as deluded as May shouldn't be in a position of power.

>>734031853
Certificate authorities. Your OS/browser has a set of installed CAs, they sign all web site certificates and that's how your browser knows to trust the site.

>>734032007
You can have it if you fight me for it

>>734031798
Correct.

>>734032098
All shits and giggles aside, "deluded" really is the best way to describe May, isn't it?
I mean it's not that she's evil, lazy, overly ambitious, bullshitting or whatever. She has a deluded take on the world and legitimately believes it.

Not as in she has flawed political beliefs, but she.. consciously? blots out information that is inconvenient to her.

>>734032122
My crossbow and machete against your cutlery m8

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>>734031940
Meh, I've done some pretty illegal shit since then and not gotten fucked. Even the Manchester bomber was known to agencies, but they can't watch everyone


Also, what the fuck is this cancerous captcha, spot the car.... what fucking car?

>>734032014
Well if you are browsing news and looking up stuff that the (((government))) doesn't want you reading about the traffic being intercepted isn't such a big deal.

>>734032264
mate I promise I am better armed than you are

>>734032323
That's the first smart thing you've said.

>>734032313
If its traffic from an .onion website through tor then they can't see shit anyway

>>734032271
Sure, I agree they can't watch everyone. Point is if they now develop an interest in you they can see what you browsed over the last twelve months.

>>734032531
Anything worth looking at would have been encrypted

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>>734025671

>If it's a right in the US why can't felons own them

>>734028987
>unless you waste a ridiculous amount of taxpayer resources on phone inspections
Reminds me of the time I had to buy a license for my pet cat, Eric. The cat-detector van picked up Eric's purr from the next street over.

>>734032669
With a VPN, possibly hosted by yourself in another region which was my original point.

>>734022166
To be honest
At least this stuff would actually happen
Corbyn is desperate and will literally pledge anything as long as it will get him votes

Do you guys really think he's gonna get rid of student loans, renationalise the railway and improve NHS funding without bankrupting the country

Labours a joke now and is gonna die due to corbyn's refusal to step down even when he loses

>>734032839
No, with Tor.
Meaning independent nodes spread throughout the world.

>>734032925
That'll work too.

>>734032271

>Also, what the fuck is this cancerous captcha, spot the car.... what fucking car?

>If there are none, click skip.

>>734032966
So how would they monitor me then?

>>734022166


Big Sister by George Orwell

>>734033023
Through the window, with binoculars

>>734023146
Who the fuck are you

>>734027175
>that pic
>what is context

lmao these pics are so funny

>>734032909
He'll step down, it's just another empty promise. Labour will still be fucked though.

>>734033076
Even when I'm fapping?

>>734022695
this. just let the Islam flow through you alraedy.

>>734033023
I never claimed they could.
Our thread started when you questioned my idea of using your own VPN endpoint in Azure/AWS as they could collect the traffic. I pointed out that the threat I was mitigating was current UK legislation.

>>734033209
Especially when you're fapping

>>734033239
So the long and short.

Don't use vpn, use tor to onion sites and only visit https clearnet sites via tor.

>>734033323
I'll be waiting

be careful with this highly sensitive information

https://vimeo.com/210862415

>>734033429
Do your best to make eye contact

>>734033378
Yes.
Of course if there are HTTP only sites you want to visit that you don't want you ISP to log, then VPN becomes you only option.

>>734025996

Well lets extrapolate that. Are you as a (presumed) private American allowed to own a tank? A missile launcher? A nuclear weapon? You're not allowed to own various chemicals like illegal drugs (weed, ecstasy), or chemical weapons like anthrax. The line of what private citizens are allowed to own is entirely arbitrary, it's not some written in stone tablets law that "thou shalt have guns".

Quite frankly a modern western state is going to control its citizens through economic shackles rather than literal ones. It keeps people poor and fighting each other for scraps rather than through jackbooting them in the face.

>>734031600
which, hypothetically would not be a problem for someone in the UK who wants to browse porn (or anything else, including here) thats legal in the US but not in the UK because its not 'age verified'. I doubt the feds would turn that sort of info to the UK gov. Isn't TOR how most Chinese people who want to get on the free web get around their state censorchip? or if not, then Id assume a lot of UK internet users will just find the same ways around blocks.

>>734033378
Well the HTTPS only really matters if you are logging into something (your login may be intercepted without https) or sending information of some sort to the site. If you are browsing 9gag or some shit it doesnt matter at all.

>>734033477
In that case I'd just browse it via vpn whilst connected to a public access point. I know you can also use tor with a vpn, but lets not get into all that now. It's very late and very tiring.

>>734032271
>what fucking car?
If there are none, click "skip". Captcha discovers the null hypothesis.

>>734033638
If you're going to a public access point the whole conversation is moot.

>>734033726
Mootykins will be there?

>>734033582
It does, the exit node can insert html or javascript or anything that can't exploit a vulnerability in the TOR browser.

Britfags can suck my dick TBH.

>>734033799
Obviously I mean "can exploit a vulnerability"

>>734033799
Noscript enabled, java disabled

>>734025129
oh you mean like the NSA with RSA?
or how CIA bullied Amazon into handing over the keys of their cloud services?
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2021649799_amazonciaxml.html

>>734033911
Certainly helps.

>>734022166
I was pretty surprsied when I saw that.. I'm pretty surprsied how far UK has gone in on the surveilance / censorship

This one takes the cake though because shit loads of sites are going to bend over backwards to deal with the UK demands.. So they are going to block half the internet?

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Yeah good luck with that

>>734031112
Lord help the man who thinks
>>OI! IS DAT A KNOIFFEEE?
is any kind of representation other than comedic, however rooted in truth it is

>>734033949
This just reaffirms my comment from here>>734029657

>>734022166
cUKland
inbreeding before even amerikahns were
i wonder what new degenerate lifestyle choice they'll invent and then spam as if it were "mainstream" next

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Make
England
Great
Again

>>734034170
'As for the performance of Superintendent Harry "Snapper" Organs as Sancho Panza, the audience were bemused by his high-pitched Welsh accent and intimidated by his abusive ad-libs.
Sancho Panza (Mr Organs) spoilt an otherwise impeccably choreographed rape scene by his unscheduled appearance and persistent cries of "What's all this then?".'
–The Western Daily News

Does Russia have less pakis and niggers than the UK? Feel like I should move.