Best president of the US so far, too bad the deep state got him

Best at fucking shit up.. /thread

I stand uncorrected losers

>>733956306
What did he fuck up? Be more specific

>>733956361
Trying to fuck our healthcare even more than it already is which is quite a feat

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>>733955855
>too bad the deep state got him by the balls.
Elaborate on this and maybe I will debate you.

>>733956699
>even more than it already is
Difference in it might make it better. Status quo is as you said fucked, so a different approach is a good thing.

next caller

>>733955855
He's a pedo. Just tonight he used "yum" when describing some eighth graders.

>>733956699
>Trying to fuck our healthcare even more
So you wanted it more Socialized? Not sure what your stance is. Please be specific when debating someone.

>>733956980
This logic is fucking awful. That's like saying my toe got cut off, I might as well get cancer.

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>>733955855
He's not even top five.
However, he the best of available options.

>>733956699
Healthcare is fucked no matter what, by the nature of the country. Either Jews will jack up the prices to astronomical rates, whites will end up subsidizing browns, or both. In an ethnostate or an apartheid-like system things could be handled better. However, Ryancare was not meaningfully different from Obamacare.

>>733956699
You are not entitled to health care. You aren't entitled to anything you liberal cuck. You want health care get a better job. Its not the responsibility of the state to care for you.

>>733957012
Ok how about raising premiums for pregnant women calling it a pre existing condition

>>733957154
>Ryancare was not meaningfully different from Obamacare.
True, I was pretty bummed to find out that a good plan wasn't being drawn up during Obama's 8 fucking years.

>>733957157
It's not about entitlements you inbred retarded piece of shit. Essentially he only wants to cover healthy people. Which is the fucking opposite point of healthcare you dumb fuck.

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>>733957012
Single-payer healthcare would actually be the optimal solution if we lived in a white country. In the current Brazilified demographic climate, the best option is extreme deregulation and a reworking of the insurance model to not cover routine procedures.

There isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.

>>733957338
Do you understand the principle upon which insurance operates?

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>>733955855
I bet he is going to budd dwyer himself halfway through his second term.

>>733956920
Every time he has to go against his will, he is clearly upset about it. Like when he bombed the Syrian army, when the Portugese president mentioned terrorism and when he signed the health care bill he was visibly disgusted, and short about the whole thing - clearly something he didn't want to do but was made to do. I'll find you the clips if this thread survives it.

>>733957217
What are you talking about, no LAW was passed, only a bad rough draft of a bill. It should have been 100x better I agree. But healthcare certainly isn't a human right so the bill is at least a step in the right direction.

>>733957369
No shit, fucking money

>>733957007
proofs
>>733957083
That analogy is the worst I have ever witnessed. He's trying to fix it so it creates jobs in the long run.
>>733957407
Keep dreaming

>>733957407
that would be teh awesome!

>>733955855
Russian shill bitch.

>>733955855
>Best president of the US so far
that right there shows how much a dumbass you are, no point going any further.

>>733957517
No you work for healthcare or pay for it but the fact that you missed the proposals ability to straight up let jobs say fuck you about healthcare is telling about your intelligence. Not only that but you speak like a retard. If your mother gets cancer then the bill gets passed you will be crying autistically.
>hurr durr trump privatized insurance yaaaayyy

>>733957636
>that would be teh awesome!

go back to 2007 cancerposter

>>733957583
Fix it by killing off all old people and anyone who gets a disease.
>makes sense

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>>733957567
No. It's a risk pool. You pool your money together with people who have a similar risk level, and if one of you takes a hit, then everyone pays for it. The insurance company is essentially a formalized middleman. That's why women pay less than men for car insurance, because men are more aggressive drivers.

If you have a pre-existing condition, that is no longer a question of risk. There's no risk, there's just the bare fact of an applicant with cancer or arthritis or what have you. It doesn't make sense economically for the insurance company to involve itself there.

I'm not against socialized healthcare in the correct circumstances, but using an insurance model for it is all fucked up.

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>>733957741
There is nothing wrong with a US/Russia friendship against terrorism. The cold war is over, stop deluding yourself. Putin wants to be an US ally, and Trump is getting cockblocked by the jews because that puts them at danger i.e no more war in the middle east (that (((( they ))))) create)

you fucking kike

>>733957456
I couldn't believe the bill myself, I stated that in my above post, the right had 8 years to work with MD's and RN's and insurance companies to figure out a great health bill that will allow the insurance companies to compete across state lines, just like they were begging for before ObamaCare.

>>733957886
Except the principle is fucking awful. Listen, I don't give a fuck about anyone else. That being said if you don't think a universal amount of money should go in from everyone (yes I get there are illegals and people cheating the system/healthy people who don't need to pay for sick people) to cover a universal healthcare then you are a retard.

>>733957836
The US is in a great deficit, and making healthcare economically viable is a hard nut

>>733957886

Thank you for explaining that to summerfags and NEETs here. Ryancare is fucked, but so was Obamacare.

>>733958107

How do you do that with 330+ million people anon? This isn't Sweden or Canada.

>>733958128
I actually agree with you there, the deficit stemmed from other issues. If I agree with trump on one thing it's getting the fucking illegals out.

>>733956306
you cant /thread your own post faggot

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>>733958107
Well, I can get behind that idea. I'd even be willing to pay for sick people's care. But you have to have certain demographic conditions, and we don't have them.
>>733958212
Sweden and Canada do a decent job of it not because they're small but because they're ethnically homogeneous (recent rapefugee importation notwithstanding).

>>733956980
Retarded fucking logic

>>733958212
>>733958230
See this post of mine

That being said, his plan is not even close to being smarter than a fifth grader could have drafted up. To be that draconian on HUD and MH Residential programs, USA is already fucking crazy enough with shootings

>>733957997
>he bought the Russia meme

>>733955855
He considers climate change to be a Chinese hoax. That's pretty fucking retarded.

He said Germany is bad because of the cars they make. A lot of the biggest German car factories are in the US giving jobs to US citizens. He is fucking retarded.

At the very least, people in his campaign colluded with Russians to put him in power.

He frequently leaks or does shit that embarrasses the US on an international scale. This shows that he has no clue what he's doing when it comes to foreign affairs.

He wants to build an incredibly expensive wall that will do almost nothing to solve any of the illegal aliens issue. Seriously, most of these people just overstay visas. This is far and away, the most wasteful and retarded idea he's had and if you support it unironically, you should probably not ever breed.

>>733957997
He loves Jews. He sucked Israel's dick.

>>733958332
Totally agree but to draft a bill to say fuck old people or anyone with any condition like Asthma and to be able to ask people with cancer for 140,000.00 a year in premiums is criminal

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>>733957777
>No you work for healthcare or pay for it
Mind Blown

>let jobs say fuck you about healthcare
Find another job

>Not only that but you speak like a retard.
Ouch anon, that wasn't very nice.

>If your mother
I AM EMOTIONALLY TRIGGERED

I am a 3rd generation small business owner, I have always paid for my own or like when I was younger, didn't get any at all.

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>>733955855
>blame muh deep state

He really can do no wrong in your eyes can he?

>hurr debate me I am so intellectually superior

How was your 13th birthday, kid?

>>733958511
You clearly missed the point of that whole post

>>733958370
>Using memes to say I fell for a meme

get fucked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaEcJcqm070
>>733958508
That's what I meant with the deep state

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>>733955855
No wall

doubling H2B visas

almost certain to increase H1B

Doubled refugee cap

Sold 100 billion of advanced weapons and anti missiles systems to the people who did 9/11

Said he was gonna label china currency manipulator, crack down on china / mexican trade === does no such thing until slaps some tarrifs on canada (?????????????)

repeal and replace obamacare day 1 with healthcare that coveres everyone, everything, better, lower premiums, more coverage... EVERYTHING instead does mission accomplished picture with house republicans after they pass a bill that they know will never go anywhere in the senate..that they wouldn't of passed if it would... and shrinks coverage by 22 million and doesn't do anything he said

goes on and on

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>>733958641
You're making up the terms though anon, why should I respond to a fantasy that doesn't exist?

You amerifags are fucking retarded. Anybody who tries to defend the car-crash of a presidency clearly has some major bias.

In ANY society you will always have those who can't get a job, can't work due to illness, homeless, chucked out, orphaned etc. If your answer is that the state shouldn't fund healthcare then you need to accept the consequences of that. You'll literally have people in your country dying of trivial shit like broken arms while the rest of the world laughs at your incompetence.

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>>733955855
How do you feel about your cohorts turning into radicals?

>>733958806
Yet. Doesn't exist yet. Read the proposed bill.

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>>733958806
Clarity: Bill ≠ Law

>>733958971
Just kys moron

>>733958556
Is that your debating post? Ad hominem and general shit? Try harder, here's a (you) for the effort. Also he is clearly displeased with the things "he" does that go against his previous statements. That's why he's not a politician - he can't and doesn't want to hide it.
>>733958597
Common political science

Said Mexico will pay for wall, Mexico won't pay for wall. Says congress will pay for wall. Congress won't pay for wall. Says NATO is obsolete. Says NATO is not obsolete. Says China is currency manipulator. Says China is not currency manipulator. Says US needs to protect its secrets better. Shares Israeli intel with Russia. Tells president of Philippines where our nuclear subs are. Claims he got stamina. Gets tired after only a few days abroad.

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>>733958971
Do you remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

>>733957517

I will quite happily pay a higher tax rate to get health care like the rest of the devloped world has.

for the price you pay to get a hip replacement in murrica you can fly to spain, get a hip replacement, live there for 2 years, run with the bulls, get trampled on by the bulls, get your hip replaced again AND fly back to murrica.

>>733959039
If I wanted my come back I would have had your mother throw it up

>>733958925
Not American, but I'm pretty sure the hospitals are obligated to treat shit that's immediately life threatening (like you just got shot or something). They just hand them the bill afterwards which puts them on the street.

Not disagreeing with you. They're pretty fucking stupid. It's just not quite as bad as you think.

Still really stupid though. It comes from the typical American mindset of not being poor, just temporarily not rich. Everyone has this weird hope that they'll make it big, so they don't want any shit going to the poor people since they know they'll transcend that shit some day.

>>733958785
Who says Saudi Arabia did 9/11?

>>733955855
Why is Trump still being bashed by the news when the DNC literally killed a guy?

Fuck you niggers and "muh free healthcare" if you want "awesome" benefits, go be a fucking teacher and collect your shit pay, but get your healthcare

>>733958785
Truly the proof of deep state. Has he done any of that and been his usual proud self? Fuck no, he's disgusted every time he has to announce something he was against but was made do.
>>733958925
Not even american and I'm the OP. My own country is against him and they can get fucked.

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>>733958949
too many these little white boys getting radicalized

>>733959215
Hospitals
>treat cancer
>cancer
What?

>>733958949
he primaried/caucused for bernie and "could not bring himself to vote for trump" and did not vote on election day

even the white supremacists are socialists in oregone

>>733959264
What is a conspiracy theory?

>>733959152
A lot of this is quite trivial, but it does add up to show just how incompetent and unprepared he is.

Plus, it's always funny to look back at something he said and realize that if he'd said it today, he'd be criticizing himself.

>>733959178
>fly to spain
Die from staff infection and bad surgery

>for the price you pay to get a hip replacement in murrica
Ironic because the best doctors in the world are in America and anyone who wants the best service comes to America, just ask the rich canadians right now dying from a 2 year wait.

>>733958367

Shootings would drop like a rock if we rounded up all the niggers and gave them a one way ticket to any country they wanted.

a lot of them hate white people so we could just ship them to nigger ran wonderlands like Affrican warlord #3724 plot of dirt.

>>733958949
Portland is a shit hole full of retarded snowflakes

>>733955855
>too bad the deep state got him by the balls.

So he's not good. If he was good or even effective he would get things done. But he hasn't. Deep state or not.

Fuck off anon.

>>733959411
Whole heartedly agree. But white people are more often mentally ill.

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>>733959201
Look who's triggered now anon.

>>733958548

when he starts taking things to the supreme court.

OP again, I am all for free health care as it works great in my small country but the US has nearly 300 million people, and many people are against putting fat asses/junkies/idiots (which is like what, half the nation?) on THEIR bill because that would mean 150% tax for those who actually work and provide. It just isn't feasible or possible

>>733959497
They're just louder about it

>>733955855
Trump is a bad LOSER. Very bad. Sad.

>>733959397
Rich Canadians go to America for surgeries that are not required in the near future. If the 2 year wait was going to kill them, they'd be bumped up. If you're in a life threatening situation, you'll get the surgery right away.

>>733959516
Clearly you since you're taking bait

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>>733958925
> Anybody who tries to defend the car-crash of a presidency clearly has some major bias.

its more that they are being force-fed bullshit by algorithms on social media and literally live in a different reality than us. Some people resist the bullshit better than others but we are all able to be deceived.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/persuasion-and-control

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>unironically believes in a deep state

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>>733959371
>>733959264
conspiracy theory is what you called a sad abundantly transparent attempt to give putin cover for hacking the DNC and trump for colluding with russia

LOCK HIM UP

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>>733955855
>Worst president of the US so far
fixed

>>733959632
How can somebody be a good loser? Fucking moron

>>733959371
Google "Beranton Whisenant." He was a federal prosecutor investigating visa and voter fraud in Florida. It isn't a conspiracy theory, just another sad truth that'll inevitably be covered up.

>>733959659
>they'd be bumped up.
Literal accounts of Canadians dying from just this scenario.

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>>733959477
Deep state threatens to kill your family in an "accident" you fucking abide. for the rest of you, pic related

>>733959757
BAD!

>>733959397

its where the money is so doctors here charge whatever the fuck they want.

and the people have two choices. pony up or get fucked.

It is proven to work in almost every other devloped nation why would it not work in murrica?

combined with the lack of vacation and payed time off of work you guys get you are little more then a 3rd world craphole with iphones.

>>733959563
Right but we can provide healthcare for people who work but have preexisting conditions without 150,000.00 premiums

>>733959563
Not overnight of course. It's a change that'll have to happen over the course of generations. I'm sure you'll get there eventually.

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>>733959689
>YFW
Nice try

Real conservatives like me will back him no matter what. He is the best president and if he gets impeached republicans will be winning another civil war. This nation is meant to be a republican democracy.

>>733955855
huge jew sucking faggot.
he should be gassed along with his kike family

Explain to me how Ivanka and Kushner, his daughter and his son-in-law, being instantly appointed to important, high-clearance white house positions, pay-check or no, is not slimy, suspicious, or inappropriate.

I do not identify as Republican or Democrat, but I'm pissed about this, and I'd be pissed if Clinton did it with Chelsea, too.

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>>733959757

>>733959863
No True Conservative would even consider not supporting him

>>733959860
Still triggered I see

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>>733959877
simple

>>733959827
Agreed, but albeit not mine, this post is meant for you: >>733959836

>>733959863

that civil war will be a little lop sided anon. with the republicans being funded, armed and supported by the full might of the russian government the democrats dont have a chance.

>>733959797
What the hell are you talking about you autist?

I am saying it is Donald's fault for not being able to handle his own administration. Calling it the "deep state" doesn't change that fact.

>>733959764
>Federal prosecutor investigating

good to know that your logic is that
"investigating" means that it must be true..

I heard the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians, and now the Federal government is "investigating"

so it must be true.

thank your for clarifying that for me faggot

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>>733959822
>doctors here charge
lol

>pony up or get fucked.
Dude go live a little, who the fuck it teaching you these things?

>It is proven to work
Literally what nigger?

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>>733959979

>>733959700
it all depends on what your definition of deep state is, and what you think their goals and motivations are.

If you define deep state as any bureaucrat that is not directly affected/appointed by the political process, then yes the deep state definitely exists. It also has its own motives (the primary one being self survival) that do not perfectly align with the ruling political party.

trump supporters are on a whole nother level with the bullshit they believe, but the concept itself is helpful/relevant

>>733959979

so you can't support him on his merits, therefore you have to draw identity connections to justify his support? Really thought that one through, didn't you. Oh wait, no, you were told to think this way by a "True Conservative" and you complied.

Cuck.

>>733957157

being said in the only fucking developed state that doesn't provide healthcare.

>>733959767
You're right. It'll happen occasionally. Not often enough that I'd ever want the system to change though. For the vast majority of cases, if you're going to die, you're going to get the help you need.

Way more people die in the US from a lack of insurance than people do in Canada because they had to wait.

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>>733960219
>trump supporters are on a whole nother level with the bullshit they believe

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>>733957369

Do you understand that insurance is graft, and aside from the glass sky rises and fancy business cards is logistically no different than systematized corruption?

>>733959764
> It isn't a conspiracy theory, just another [definition of conspiracy].

wew

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>>733960091
lluuuuuuuuulllllllllll CHECKMATE TRUMPTARD

>>733958511
>I am a 3rd generation small business owner
You are the purest form of cancer rotting this country from the inside out. You've deluded yourself into thinking that because you didn't fuck up running a business, which isn't really a fucking feat of strength, you deserve our respect. Threads like this demonstrate that you not only need attention but you can't function without any kind of validation from the people you consider lesser than yourself. You shit on liberals but when the time comes you'll take your liberal social security because you've "earned" it. You'll extend your greedy jew hands gladly suckle at the teat of the government when you're too old to work so you get free insurance off the backs of the very people you lord your small accomplishment over. If you manage to wrangle some seed into a woman dumb enough to be impressed by your sad resume I'm sure the pathetic children you spawn will put you in a home because they lack the morality to end your life with dignity or the compassion to take care of you when you're too addled by old age to clean the shit out of your own ass.

Enjoy your thread where you parrot conservative reddit the_donald opinions and act like some kind of broken millennial edgelord that read Atlas Shrugged to escape from getting bullied in your mostly white middle school.

3rd generation small business owner? WEW LAD

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>>733960547
IT IT EU OR UN????????????????????? WHY PICTURE AND TEXT DONT MATCH!!!!!!

#fakenews

>>733957777

quads means he must have a point.

this logic is still more rooted in factual numbers than the Trumpcare plan.

>>733960091
There's no doubt in my mind that Hillary committed voting fraud to some degree. There's also no doubt in my mind that Trump's campaign is still colluding with the Russian government.

That's the great thing about an opinion, not everybody has to agree with it cunt.

>>733960692
I don't agree with OP either, but.... really?

>>733957157
And this is where the stupid starts.
Healthcare costs are the core reason it's such a fucking issue, dumbass. If the costs weren't bankrupting the general public, then private healthcare wouldn't be a problem that needed some oversight to fix, idiot.
No job, outside of earning 6 figures a year (which is a small percentage of the workforce as is) would pay enough to cover some of the expenses. Even then, it'd be stretch with how the "free" market fucked the healthcare system, practically unregulated up till the ACA. But then again, you're a bandwagon fuckwit. Fall in with Trumpfags all over because he's a fucking celebrity, despite being nowhere near smart enough to operate a rotary phone.

>>733960781
Opinions are about matters of subjectivity and cannot be proven right or wrong. Beliefs are about matters of fact.

You don't have opinions about if Trump colluded with Russia, you have beliefs. You might have opinions about whether or not it matters, though.

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>>733960692
>you deserve our respect.
Deep analysis anon, was merely pointing out that I pay for peoples healthcare and understood how it works. I stopped reading there for obvious reasons.

>>733960131
this is literally how conservative brains work

trump is 'on their side' and thats the only thing that matters, supporting the team

its just part of the neurology of being conservative, i find it highly annoying as someone who isnt conservative but it probably provides some benefit to the fitness of our species having them in the breeding pool. I think its best to agree to disagree, be civil, and work together where your values are the same.

>>733955855
was ein Arschloch

>>733955855
JFK is/was the best

>>733959281

you sir are not a teacher, nor have an accurate conception of what it is like.

>mfw you're actually Betsy DeVos.

>>733961004
>I stopped reading there for obvious reasons.
>The truth is hard to handle.

>>733958456
So do I win, or was I missed?

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>>733961120
What truth, the one I just told you? Why the fuck would anyone want respect on an anonymous Brazilian basket weaving board? I guess the truth is hard to handle.

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>>733955855
agreed, anon

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>>733955855
>the deep state

>Debate me

You can't debate crazy, just nod, smile and hope it goes away. Maybe have it remanded for a 48hr evaluation.

>>733960979
>Beliefs are about matters of fact

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>>733960560
>it's just a criminal gang writ large man
The nature of modern insurance is pretty Jewish, but the basic idea is a sound one.

Trump and the republicans are right BY DEFINITION. This is a simple fact that libtards need to accept. This is a conservative christian democracy! #MAGA

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>>733961649
>conservative
>democracy
Nah, fuck that, we need a fascist dictatorship. Unless you're just boomerposting in which case you got me.

>>733957157
>You aren't entitled to anything
this statement is clearly false
surely you feel entitled to your own life? Freedom to do as you please, freedom from someone deciding to end your life, etc
We all feel entitled to some things, we just disagree on what we should be entitled to.

The founding fathers made entitlement claims based on 'natural law' or 'god given rights'
the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness
we make up the rights and entitlements, its completely socially constructed, there is no 'natural' rights. Those claims have been debunked. So then the question is what rights and entitlements do we want? What is the best set of rights and entitlements? Its a difficult question and the answer will probably keep changing as society changes.

>>733961315
Came to be wrecked by OP, but he didn't deliver.

Oh well. Bed time for me now.

>>733961315
>climate change
Correlation ≠ Causation

>He said Germany is bad because of the cars they make.
Did he actually say that, sounds grammatically wrong as hell, post the video for me.

>He frequently leaks or does shit that embarrasses the US on an international scale.
No Obamas previous holder IC is leaking and the embarrassment is our Media blowing every up, think of it as white noise.

>He wants to build an incredibly expensive wall
If they would have allowed him to take that drug money they seized, forget how much but that would have been nice.

>>733958456
>He considers climate change to be a Chinese hoax. That's pretty fucking retarded.
Two fold answer:
1. White guilt is keeping production down while the Chinese laugh at us and our "eco friendly" autism 2. It's not proven that us humans contribute to global warming at all, as there are ice ages, there are global warmings too - like way before us.
>He said Germany is bad because of the cars they make. A lot of the biggest German car factories are in the US giving jobs to US citizens. He is fucking retarded.
German cars are better, but he wants the US economy to grow, outsourcing doesn't do that.
>He frequently leaks or does shit that embarrasses the US on an international scale. This shows that he has no clue what he's doing when it comes to foreign affairs.
What? He told Russia about laptops being a threat to air travel which isn't fucking news or "leaking", he warned Syrian Army (enemy of isis) that they're going to bomb the suspected sarin base as to save civilians. How is that a bad thing?
>He wants to build an incredibly expensive wall that will do almost nothing to solve any of the illegal aliens issue. Seriously, most of these people just overstay visas. This is far and away, the most wasteful and retarded idea he's had and if you support it unironically, you should probably not ever breed.
The wall is already there, only it's a fence. Illegal immigrants=illegal. It's less expensive than having 10 million immigrants leech off workers taxes, working without paying tax, staying in prison and so on and so on.

With the ad hominems, you are proving your autism and utter retardation you fucking sjw faggot.

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>>733961867
The state exists to ensure the smooth functioning of the society and the strength of the nation.
Rights should only be dispensed by the state in such a way to ensure that those goals can be achieved.

>>733961335
>deny deny deny
go away scary truth, you cant hurt me if I dont let you!

>>733961019

Pretty much this, as I'm starting to realize. If a conservative anon walked in to their house and saw Trump banging his/her spouse, they probably would rationalize in their brain that it's for the good of the country.

Republicucks is more like it.

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>>733961796
Delet This

>>733961573
a fact is when truth is 100% certain
(OP is a fag)
a belief is when truth is not 100% certain
(OP probably takes it in the ass)
an opinion is when truth is a irrelevant concept
(I think OP is a nice guy[especially when he is worshiping my cock])

>>733962198
Lovely analogy from a guy who happily lets his wife and daughter get railed by immigrants i.e getting "culturally enriched"

>>733962198
Trump could kill someone and I would still support him. I would NEVER support a demoncrat. Even if it meant the end of the world.

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>>733962375
He's not wrong. Basic bitch liberals and conservatives just like to root for the blue Jew and the red Jew respectively.

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>>733962080
Deny what? I don't even know what you are on about anymore bozo. I clarified what I thought was implied in my post but you took way out of context and I am the one denying something?

>>733962505
The red jew (Trump) is currently doing an alright job at being a bad goy at the moment. At least with the facial expressions cause anything else will get him castrated and his family in an "accident"

>>733960452

>Germany has had national health insurance since 1883
>Great Britian's NHS has existed since 1948
>Canada has had universal health coverage since 1947, universal in care in 1984
>Australia has had their "Medicare" system since 1975
>Any citizen of one of these countries that you ask about American health care is terrified by the concept of living under our system
>Any random American you talk to has some health care related horror story relating to them or somebody they knew
>Republicans still somehow believe Obamacare is killing us and that universal health care would instantly bankrupt us

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>>733962306
k ;)

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>>733962679
Trump isn't really the Red Jew though, he just had to join up with the Red Jew to even get involved.
Cuckservatives will root for kiked faggots like Graham and Ryan just because they have an (R) next to their name.

>>733962046
and where does the state as an entity derive its entitlement to exist and its rights?

(the state is a social construct)

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>>733955855
Trump's mom gay lol

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>>733962832
>the state has to justify its existence
Wrong.
The state exists as an institutionalized form of violence. Rights flow from force, and since the state is, on the most basic level, a group that either seized power or has been accorded power by the society, rights flow from the state.

Society is a biological construct.

PSA to all libtards. Atheism is the rebellion agaisnt god. Satan has control over you and you burn and be assfucked in hell if you do not repent. Atheists need to stop with the immorality and repent.

>>733962883
deep state can be attributed to all of those. His personality can't

>>733962505
blue jew loyalists are less loyal though, they have other priorities like "equality" or "fairness" (hence the SJW shitstorm)

the blue jew must ensure loyalty by labeling its programs as the most fair or equal or progressive

the red jew doesnt have this burden, they just have to be 'safe'

>>733962572
>I stopped reading there for obvious reasons.
>Why the fuck would anyone want respect on an anonymous Brazilian basket weaving board?
you are unwilling to seek out the truth for truths sake, either you only care about the truth when your reputation is on the line or you were deflecting because you did not want to confront the truth

>>733963428
The blue Jew commands less loyalty, ironically, because it's the ruling faction. In order to retain its followers' loyalty it has to enact the leftward, third-worldist march that the (((media))) instills in the population.

Meanwhile the red Jew, as the controlled opposition, just has to occasionally countersignal something that the blue Jew does, and, preferably, not propose any meaningful alternative. The constituency of the red Jew is hungry for an actual ideology to step in (as seen with Trump, and previously, the yellow Jew of libertarianism), but various factors prevent it.

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>>733963620
>you are unwilling to seek out the truth for truths sake
You were character assassinating me and I stopped when you started getting it wrong and proceeded to correct you. Was there some Empirical truth I missed or something? Please feel free to drop that bomb again for us.

>>733960954
hmm interesting, when you present facts they sorta just shut up.

>>733963001
social relations (and hierarchy) are social constructions, there is a biological basis but they are by definition socially determined.
>Society is a biological construct.
this doesnt change anything, there is still the fact that this is socially agreed upon. Violence (within a species) is social. Every use of violence is balance between socially justifiable maintenance of order and tyranny. Chimps will kill their leader if he becomes too tyrannical.

TFW only options were scam artist with a brand and Benghazi e-mails stroke bitch.

Welp.

>>733960692
rekt

>>733964020
im not the guy that posted that
>Was there some Empirical truth
why dont you try reading it yourself

>>733964402
He's right but the ACA is also not the answer. Obama robbed Freddie and Fannie for it and it's still falling off the cliff.

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>>733964514
You haven't actually presented any points of disagreement with me, you're just deconstructing civilization. It's not a useful exercise and all the things you're saying could as easily be said by a fascist, a communist or an anarchist.

In fact, as the token fascist in the thread, I could say that since the rights and duties of a citizen are socially constructed, and social norms are a product of biology and evolutionary pressures, it's in the interest of any society that wishes to remain coherent to expel those who are sufficiently racially dissimilar to the native stock as to give them a different psychology or social outlook.

>>733964847
It;s not the answer but it's defidently a path on the right direction.

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>>733964840
No thanks, pretty sure if it was gold, it would have been regurgitated by now. Did his context seem correct to you? Did it seem like I was boasting anon?

If so, kys

>>733964847
Much better than that trumpretardcare that they are trying to pass.

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>>733965256
>>733964847
>>733965232
Trumpcare and Ryancare are fundamentally identical, you stupid fucks.

>>733964020
Please dont link pictures of that racist nigger Hussein. By far the most racist president in history. Thank god he didnt get to act on his plans of enslaving the whites.

>>733965232
>path on the right direction.
WTF are you talking about dude? Nobody can afford the costs as is. It is not sustainable. Insurance companies are either going under or leaving states completely right now, and it was only going to get worse.

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>>733965371
Trumpcare and Obamacare, whoops.

>>733965371
yea lets remove those taxes from the rich and re apply to the poor... thats pretty similar. lets cut billions and billions of dollars of the current programs.

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>>733965371
>HurDur left right
Have said that repeatedly, I am actually staggered that those fucks didn't have an AMAZING replacement in 8 Fucking years. IDK anon, government needs reform, The constitution is what I care about mostly and holding people accountable.

>>733965424
Sorry anon.

>>733965429
What the fuck are you smoking!?!?! What on earth are "fundamentally" similar about these 2???

Net neutrality is dead anyway. Enjoy your time before the drones come for you /b/asterds. I loved laughing at your shit and cheap whores. Peace.

>>733965429
Obama added people to healthcare, trump is going to remove more than 20million... ya similar.

>>733957157
Yes it is, nazi mongrel.
Money does not determine the value of life.

Only selfish asshats like you think so.

>>733955855
Worst excuse for a POTUS since Buchanan and Pierce.

Debate ME you fascist filth

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>>733965660
>>733965574
Look, nigger, it's a mandate to purchase insurance. It doesn't matter what restrictions you place or lift, you're basically just shuffling parts around with the same underlying model. This goes double for Trumpcare which basically left ninety percent of the Obamacare infrastructure intact and just stopped directly fining people who fail to purchase insurance.

There is no plan because as I observed here American healthcare is fundamentally broken. Implementing single-payer would not change things- instead of white people paying private-sector Jews to subsidize brown people and inflated hospital prices, you would have white people paying public-sector Jews to subsidize brown people and inflated hospital prices.

>>733965754
>Money does not determine the value of life.
Nazis don't think that, t. Nazi

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can't wait to build that wall!

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>>733965912
There is nothing wrong with fascism and if Trump were actually a fascist we'd be in better straits.
Stop calling everything you don't like fascist, faggot.

>>733965660
While the concept maybe similar you can't just simply say they are the same thing... If the outcome of the program is completely differnent then you can't say they are the same. The outcomes of the programs will be almost opposite of each other.

>>733965426
Adding to this: It's been forcing businesses to either downsize to 50 employees or less or go completely out of business. Many of these same businesses would like to expand and hire more people but cannot because if the business is forced to pay, they go under. This shit was literally happening to people who thought they could sustain in the market, they couldn't and everyone else has been downsizing ever since.

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>>733965912

>>733966350
So lets go back to how it was.. reject people with pre existing conditions and have them go into debt for the rest of their lifes when something goes bad. These fucken insurance companies dont give a shit about giving healthcare, they care about profits... this is why its better than it was before.

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>>733965912
there

>>733966161
Seconded

>>733966350
Pretty much fucked any small business and allowed the mega corporations to eat them up. You guys really want WallyMart harvesting your milk?

trumpget

His stance on foreign car makers made me turn.

Well him and pence are tryna Make America Religious Again™ and that's pretty fuckin shameful

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>>733955855
You're a low-IQ sociopath
>BUT MY INTERNET IQ IS 165!
Nope. Stupid and evil. Stupid and evil, friend.

>>733965245
>he still wont read it

wew lad

>>733965040
>You haven't actually presented any points of disagreement with me
thats because I am not arguing against your ideology, I am merely pointing out that all ideology is based on a social construction and any claim of 'rightness due to nature' is false. Humans behave in certain predictable ways and it is *useful* to design our social systems around that (eg expel those who are sufficiently racially dissimilar to the native stock), but this is a claim of utility based on biology not inherit rightness due to biology. And there are other solutions to that particular problem presented (stronger feelings of empathy towards more similar looking individuals, self > family > extended family or tribe > ethnicity > species). One thing 'race-realists' or neo-nazis or whatever get right is that this *is* a natural human tendency, most left wing philosophies outright deny this aspect of human nature. Id also add that its probably more complex than as you perceive it, for instance we feel more empathy towards dogs than other animals, there are a variety of factors going into this, its not solely biology. Any good solution will be similarly complex.

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>>733966502
I had the pleasure of talking to a commie who said he was okay with being a foot soldier for the capitalists because at least the capitalists won't kill him.

I pointed out that if he became a fascist he would at least get socialism at the end and he wouldn't get iced either. He then told me that the fascists wouldn't accept him anyway because he was a homosexual.

The moral of the story is that all antifa are either non-whites, Jews or subhuman degenerates- otherwise they'd be on our side.

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>>733955855

>Best

Yeah....you can eat a bullet and go fuck yourself, Ruskie.

>>733962754
Germanfag here. I pay 400 Euros monthly for our "free healthcare" and can't get treatment because all the physicians in the area don't accept any new patients because of work overload (just moved because of work). Yeah, really fucking great.

>>733955855
Do you mean logistically the best? Or do you feel like he's the best or the best person who's ever been President?

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COMMIES GET OUT

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