Ways to tell if a woman isnt or is worth your time or being in

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can she make a sandwich

Multiple children from multiple men.

Some red flags:

>only guy friends
>tells small lies all the time
>becomes a horrid bitch when drunk
>cheated on previous bf(s)
>can be charming with people you know she hates

>>733474059
fucking THIS

>>733474059
Not samefag and totally this

Op here; what about ways to tell that she is decent?

>>733474059
>can be charming with people you know she hates

seems like a great skill. would you rather her act like a retarded meth addict and scream in their faces?

>>733474059
Learn from this adult kids..

>>733473491
If she cleans her room

It doesn't have to be sparkling, but if she wont tidy up her own room in her own, then bail.

>>733473728
More like WILL she make a sammich

>>733474611

People who always have their charm turned on tend to be sociopathic, histrionic, narcissistic, or something like that. Normal people just avoid the people they hate, or act cold towards them, and will only play the charm act when absolutely necessary, and only to the extent that it is necessary.

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>>733474611
I would prefer that she was cold and impersonal to people I know she hates.

>>733474611
it just means she's going to lie to you even though she "loves you". the correct way to deal with people you don't like is by not hanging out with them. it's a whole fake personality thing, if she's like oh we're best buddies and then turns around and talks shit about them.

Red flags:
>tattoos
>large pussy lips

"No Go's"

>Tattoos that are visible with clothing on
>Single mother
>Wants you to follow her on Instagram
>Has a brand new phone every year
>Has lots of male 'friends'
>Gets upset when you don't text her back all day
>Picky eater
>Can't make small decisions without consulting her committee of other women

>>733473491
>cheated in past
>can't maintain friendships with women
>over-indulges in drugs/alcohol (I don't like drugs but you might so whatever)
And this is the big one:
>shit talks her ex-boyfriends hard
That kind of crap is usually vitriol stored up over their entire relationship, and indicates that she's doing the same with you.

>>733474914
You're a fucking faggot and stupid. Crawl into your own asshole and die.

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>>733473491
Any slut that would sink low enough to give you the time of day isn't worth your time.

>>733474809

no it has to be a good sandwich no do-overs

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>>733474993
>triggered roastie

is she a sex worker? if yes, date and impregnate.

>>733474914
>virgin detected

>>733474993

ROASTIE ALERT, ROASTIE ALERT.

social media use
fb, twitter, ig
spends all day on it, taking selfies, seeking positive comments from strangers

>>733473491

Lots of warning in this thread, how about some good stuff?

>makes you food
>can spend time with you, without talking every 5 seconds
>respects your space
>doesn't complain about little things

>>733473491

My deal breakers:

>Closed minded - won't even try scat stuff
>Won't let you talk about your attraction to her Mother
>Doesn't respond to my texts within 30 seconds.
>Won't watch rekt/gore videos with me
>Won't support my colourful horse hobby
>Won't understand that if I hit her but then cry and apolgise, then it's ok

>>733473491
>Anyone with a mental disorder
Worst 3 years of my life down the drain. Actually she had a sickass dog so it wasn't all bad
>Doesn't consider your opinion.
You should know when something needs to be talked about or not and when you've decided and she dismisses it without empathy fuck that slut off. People forget how important conversation is; being one of the sole reasons we have progressed so far as a species.

>>733475358
kek

Most girls aren't worth your time, hence all the divorces and single mothers now days. Just fuck hookers son.

>>733473491
When they don't watch the teeth, I'm no longer makin' em queef.

>>733474059
My gf matches with all of this but for the lies (i guess) and drives me crazy.

Literaly, ive been goin insane because of her for 12 years now.

>>733475124
So much trueness, it hurts

>>733474811
yeah, i know that, i thought OP meant something different. I was talking about how females talk shit about each other and are best friends the next day.

>>733474611
That's called being two-faced.
Normal people just avoid the people they hate.

>>733475528
Dude, get out... just because you don't catch her in lies doesn't mean she isn't.

Give your head a shake; you're never going to have a good life with someone like that.

>>733473491
Drop her like a dune coon's IQ if any of the following are true.

>she has a child with a living father
>she has an abundance of direct male friends (male friends through siblings or close female friends can be okay, but use discretion)
>she is condescending even casually about your interests
>she makes political statements with her diet, appearance, or hygiene.
>(unless you're also into this, in which case kill yourself now or risk becoming Anthony Burch) she admits to having or wanting a 3-some/moresome of ANY KIND. She will try and fuck a man in front of you eventually, even if it means letting you fuck another woman first for leverage. It is not hypocritical to enjoy the idea of MFF and not MFM, but she will paint you that way, publicly probably. In fact, see next point.
>she wants to fuck another guy in front of you, ever
>she tries to tell you what to do with your personal wealth and time
>she has anything more than a simple, functional vibrator
>she has no practical skills
>she doesn't have any critical thinking skills(evident if she doesn't read anything but simple romance novels or pleb fantasy, doesn't have meaningful opinions about art etc.)
>listens to pleb rap, club, or trap music

Plus more, some of which has already been said in other replies. Obviously can't come up with a comprehensive list of the top of my head, but this is a good chunk of instant-drop status red flags.

>>733473491
pic source? any others?

>>733475727
No, its called being a female and is the main reason a lot of them have mostly male friends. MOST guys don't do that shit.

Source: am femanon

>>733474777
I feel this way with dudes. I'm spending all this time getting ready to look/feel/smell good for you and I come over and you can't even make your bed?? FUCK OFF

>>733475947
Show us your cunt

this thread is full of virgins

>>733475997
See
>>733476027

>>733476027
Show us yours, cunt

>>733475884
Your age plz?

>>733476069
Kek edgy, show us that gaping hairy pus pocket

>>733475947
Tits or you didn't happen.

>>733475947
Anything else to add to the list?

>>733475947
The only reason a female needs to associate with another man in a first-world country
>work
>hobbies
>family
Anything else and it's either "just friends" or friendzoned emotional crutch when she's inevitably swept to the side by someone who realizes she's a conniving slut like 99.9% of all women

>>733476069
She isn't home right now, you first, you brought it up.

This was brought up in another thread: if she is abusive to the wait staff, she's not a keeper.

>>733476125
No u

>>733476096
26

>>733476183
>you first, you brought it up
and there's the ringer that most femanons miss. The whole point of the rule:
>I am a femanon listen to me as such
>Prove it

>>733476183
wot

>>733475947
This one rides the cock carousel, I am sure of it. 'I just like hanging out with guys, so much less drama! Hehe' proceeds to suck the back of every dick she can find and wonder why no one respects her... Whining into her 30s about finding a nice guy. Yeah, that's your type.

>>733475884

Can't agree with the threesome one anon, but you've probably been burnt in the past with that

Loving the critical thinking one as well, that's a definite must

This one though... It amazes me how many girls I know, and some guys tbh who have 0 practical skills, no creative hobbies or things to spend worthwhile time on. They just play games or watch Netflix all day as though that's making them better people.

One thing you missed as well... People who don't do any exercise - Everyone needs to go for a run once in a while

>>733476286
I don't care if anyone listens, its your cuck.

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>>733476233

>>733473491
>won't let you shave her cunt

>>733475884
There's a lot of silly nonsense in this. The bolder the claims, the more evidence needed to back it up.

Maybe try justifying some of this or the assumption is you're just a bitter twit.

Let's see... I'm 30... and I'd have to say,

>attention seeking.
>subtle small lies all the time
>overly dependant on you.
>jealous all the time
>won't trust you at all but says she does.
>just can't help herself to go through your wallet and personal affects
>overly clingy while trying to block you from seeing friends or attempts to make you feel bad about it
>that subtle under her breath shit that is ment to piss you off and cause arguments.
>seriously.. the last one... watch out for that one
>jealous of other and vain about herself.
>never happy with herself or her life no matter what.
>unappreciative, this ones a major one for me personally.
>someone who calls themselves damaged. It's just a way they are telling you they are going to act stupid and expect you to be understanding about it.
>doesn't have an education
>doesn't have goals
>doesn't have drive
>doesn't have good hygiene.
>has "frienemies"
>stalks ex's on Facebook.
>guy "friends"
>and most important on my list... if her credit is fucked up... i wouldnt even entertain the idea of dating her. Pump and dump 4 sure.

>>733476320
You're dying to be part of that carousel arent you, anon?

>>733476320
Spot on, I bet she's a pig too.

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>>733476533
R33 chek'd

General red flags for me are mostly:
>prone to cheating
>compulsive lying/exaggerating
>substance abuse
>social media whore
>doesn't know what she wants from you or life in general
Red flag interests/hobbies:
>extreme ideologies
>feminism/vegan/animal rights
>anything other than fine arts
Red flags in response to problem:
>tantrums
>crying/screaming
>emotional breakdowns
Red flags in communication:
>not processing words when someone is talking to her
>complete ignorance about obvious shit
>treating opinions as facts
>90% of her talking is mostly spewing fallacies and biases

>>733476068
See>>733476552

>>733476377
I was a massive retard in college, the ole 3-some switcheroo happened to me twice.
>>733476453
>claims there's loads of nonsense, doesn't identify a single example let alone attempt to refute any of it.
Nice meme kill yourself.

>>733474947
This is a single forever post if I ever saw one.

>wahh tattoos
>IG, wahhh she let me on her social media
>new phone, booo has money
>upset at not texting back, well if you're in a relationship you fucking should
>consults friends. Damn it's terrible to be smart and make an informed decision.

You're going far in life.

>>733476401
assuming you're the femanon in question, the simple fact that you posted that you're a femanon shows you care somewhat

>>733475947
Will be cat lady soon. See >>733476455
I have a feeling you are 90% if what this anon was talking about.

>>733476586
>not processing words when someone is talking to her
>complete ignorance about obvious shit
>treating opinions as facts
>90% of her talking is mostly spewing fallacies and biases

doesnt everyone do all of this to some degree
i feel like those are very normal human faults (although some are worse at these then others for sure)

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>>733476621
this is a single forever thread. you can see how they treat women just by the comments here. fucking pathetic honestly. im not a whiteknight either, i couldnt care less, im just making observations.

>>733476615
no timestamp, you dolt

>>733474947
This.

Lots of red flags again, and that's to be expected since shit that's burned us sticks sharper in the memory, but what about good shit?

Shares and respects life goals and hobbies
Not afraid to disagree with you providing logical argument or acknowledged emotional bias
Likes animals

>>733475947
>its called being a female

I know plenty of women who are not like that.

>>733474059
fucking this

>>733476744
Amen.

>>733476744
Keep going bro maybe you'll lose your virginity

>>733476470
I used to fuck them when I was younger, I won't lie. But after it shifted from me wanting easy pussy to them wanting money and stability, I can be much much more choosey. >>733476533
Most are. Not that men are any better. I have enjoyed growing older, because if you are even mildly successful the pussy is plentiful.

>>733476618
Has child with living father. So fucking stupid...

Die in fire fuckface.

>>733476744
white knight located

>>733476618
Also, not a meme dip shit, it's basic practical logic.

Guess we don't need to ask ourselves why you wouldn't know that though if you're so fucking clueless as to hold to some of that shit.

>>733473491
Fuck all these asshats. Here's the truth. If she makes you happy, truly happy,and you both trust each other, it's worth it.

If even one of those isn't present, it's not.

This fuckin thread lmaooo
Yall are some dumb motherfuckers. Good luck on tinder, boys.

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>>733473491
Won't fuck your friends when you tell her to.

>>733476884
Boy, you haven't even fucked a pile of dog shit.

>>733477219
I'd rate you marginally higher than that.

>Lies, doesn't matter how small
>Says she has "issues" (will cheat and say "told you")
>Says she doesn't deserve you
>Never does what you want to do
>Needs space (to fuck around behind your back)

>>733476897
>>733476970
>it's basic practical logic.
You've yet to display any of that.
Unless you're a supremely generous soul AND happen to want children immediately, being in a relationship with a woman whose kids' father is living is only practical in the best case scenarios. Those being:
>they split amicably and he maintains healthy and cordial relationships with the children and her
(Even then you're effectively in a relationship with him in addition to the woman and her child. It's not unreasonable to be uncomfortable with that)
OR
>he is completely out of the picture and you never, ever, ever hear his name or see his face until the day he dies and in that case you pay respects accordingly

>>733477369
This. Take this and run, OP. Thread canceled.

ITT: virgins who don't know pussy comes with sacrifice. Don't worry boys, soon sex robots will be indistinguishable from females and you no longer have to worry about developing a personality or be attractive to fuck! And yes I'll be buying one too.

Late, but femanon #2 here. My husband is laughing at you losers. Can confirm you'll all die alone.

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>>733477760
>>733477813

>>733477813
Lol girls aren't real on the internet

>>733473491
If she's cheating on someone to be with you
If she's a sinlge mom
If she's a teacher, nurse, therapist, etc
If she's into horses

>>733477760
Amen to that. But for the meantime interaction with ladies is fine, as long as it is transparent, I see way to many young men get trapped when it is easily avoidable. I don't hate women, I hate what they sometimes do. As long as you mitigate the behavior, it can be mutually beneficial.
>>733477813
I've accepted it. It used to bother me before, untill I realized the alternative was even more disappointing.

>>733477856
nice post

>>733477813
I think I'll survive

>>733478055
I...I don't think that's how it works..

>>733474814
Sometimes you can't act like that. See, people have jobs (where they leave the house, and work for their money, as opposed to begging for attention on 4chan) and acting like that can get you in trouble (kinda like when you eat all the doritos in one go, and have no room for nonas lasagna, as she cries, wondering where she ever went wrong to end up with an ingrate bastard for a grandson)

>>733474993
You remind me of this old man I was walking behind whilst on a beach in Spain. He had a weird wide gait, and I could see his balls hanging right down between his legs. Got in front of him and discovered that it was a chick with enormous dangling flaps. Gross, just like you.

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>>733477987
Its one thing if your girl is an airhead, another if she divorces you for your money. I don't mean let them walk all over you, just women think differently and behave differently as well. Sometimes it'll be a tad frustrating but hearing them yell when you are balls deep makes up for any annoyance

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>>733478103

>>733478103
Survival is a subjective term I guess

>>733476897
its a giant red flag
does that mean any single mother should be avoided? no, some people are otherwise fine and happen to have a kid. Not all of them though, not even most.

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>>733478420
It is indeed a giant red flag. Specifically where I live. I will take the time to explain why, hopefully at least one of you will comprehend what happens.

>girl gets knocked up by guy one shortly after high school
>goes south
>gets child support from him as well as benefits from the state
>New year New me facebook posts * 9001
>realizes there is no need to work
>gets pregnant by guy two
>gets child support from guy one and guy two, and full benefits from the state. (I kid you not I have seen them get a 3 bedroom S8 house for 200 dollars a month).
>continues the cycle.
>shitty kids that were raised with no morals do the same exact thing whore mommy does.
>Be on 4chan
>>733478420
>'does that mean any single mother should be avoided? no, some people are otherwise fine and happen to have a kid. Not all of them though, not even most.'

>Well I don't need scoob, the gang or the mystery machine for this one.

>>733473491
look between her legs -> see a cunt -> worth your time

>>733477813
we're laughing at your husband for fuking a warpig like u

>>733478887
War pigs don't get husbands. Try again.

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>>733478962
Oh, trust me I have seen it quite a bit.

>>733477813
Femanon #3 here I guess. My husband agrees with them. He is earning 1M+ a year, has his own business and before I met him was able to fuck a different girl every day if he wanted.

>>733479133
LOL nice try, Anon. We all know that's Chris Farley in a fat suit

>>733473491

>You're the one that does everything

>You're the one that loves her

>She doesnt want you to know her friends in person

>She does all the talking, you all the doing

>Says X, does the opposite

>Single mother

>Past shady experiences

>Past relationships with shady people

>Makes up excuses for blaming the problems on you if she doesnt have any real ones

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>>733478887
>>733478962
lmao
>comes into thread discussing what standards men should hold women to before considering them for a relationship
>asserts that everyone in the thread will die alone for holding standards
>then immediately asserts that men don't marry warpigs and therefore have to hold standards

>>733479159
He probably still does

>>733479336
I know, that's why I make sure his balls are empty when he goes to work.

>>733479159
nobody gives a fuck about your husband or his whore wife

>>733474059
Fuck what do i do? All true except for the cheated part. Apparently.
Not op btw

>>733479489
Are you mad little boy ? I do anything he wants cause he fully satisfies me.

>>733479517
u the dude?
maybe dump her, if the relationship seems great maybe it is, maybe you are naive
we cant diagnose via a cambodian fishing forum

if u the femanon
idk, dont cheat?

>>733475947
tits or gtfo you retarded roastie

>>733479617
im entirely indifferent, being mad would first require me to care about you

>>733475884

The vibrator one and threesome ones aren't general rules, they're things that startle you personally.

Me and my wife have threesomes from time to time, and it's never been anything more than some extra fun for us to have. We bring a girl home for new years or invite a guy over to help fuck the hell out of her on halloween, and it's just fun.
The cuck fetish shit is a fringe fetish that they're super loud about, and that fascinates people because of how pathetic it is. But I guarantee you it's not a common thing people suffer through.

Also nothing wrong with a girl liking sex toys. I'd argue that a girl who has nothing but a 'simple functional' vibrator is a bit on the boring side and needs to be talked into loosening up.

I don't care about that, I naturally discover the ho.
It's whether I get what I want from them or I don't and If I don't they gtfo, if in relationship, first dead end shit coming up and she gtfo. I consider that if she really do want things to work out, I'll feel it.

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>>733479159
Jeez another millionaire on /b/... that is vastly successful. Could you post pictures of your Bugatti on your Walmart laptop so that the illusion can come full circle for me, otherwise I can't finish masturbating.
>>733479235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohz8_IafGwE

He is overrated

>>733479292
Men should expect women to act like women do. The reciprocal is true as well. This is a very subjective topic. It however, can be said that with the most basic comprehension of cost benefit analysis that marriage is tightly skewed toward the female disposition. This is why it is generally beneficial from a male perspective to carefully consider all romantic encounters with women. Pussy was and will always be a commodity. The sad fact is, the exchange rate is typically not in favor of the male party.

>>733479623
I suppose the litmus test for a relationship is if a party 'believes' the sacrifice is worth the perceived benefits. I tend to be incredibly quantitative in this determination, which I admit is unnatural.

>>733479671
>accurate about most things in life

>>733479832
It is personal preference. I have seen couples old and young swing. Some love it and have been married for decades, it destroys other relationships. Typically between younger people, because they tend to be jealous, envious, and controlling.

>>733479832
Swinging is for the emotionally retarded or low-level hedonists. For the overwhelming majority of people sharing is not caring when it comes to the physical affection of your significant other.

The sex toys thing is similar. What kind of collection of fucktoys do you really think every woman should have?

>>733474611
It's a good thing if it's a passive ability. If it's something that she "turns on" for some people but not others, its what this guy said >>733474811

>>733475602
Women have always done that. It's actually an evolutionary skill, since bad mouthing other females reduces their success at finding a mate.

>>733474947
Lmao you just described a single-mom slut at work that wanted a go at me. Told her no and she stopped all communication with me. In hindsight, that shit could've backfired on me, but thankfully she was mature enough not to take it personally and fucked some other guy. Now that other guy wants to quit because of her. He even confessed to me that he thought I was gay or something, but after banging her he said he understood why I rejected her. She had all the other traits being listed in this thread; tattoos, piercings all over the place, gets drunk all the time.

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>>733480670
Being a spineless faggot desperate for pussy is worse than being a virgin or being gay.

Good job making good decisions, anon.

>>733475358
Everything except for the scat stuff and hitting works for one of my manwhore friends. Dude is extremely controlling and emotionally abusive, but gets laid like mad crazy.

>>733474947
>>Has a brand new phone every year
i dont do this, but some people just like having the newest shit doesnt really seem like a redflag to me

>>733480877
it's the materialistic aspect of wanting that newest shit

>>733480877
Anyone who is constantly buying a new phone every year is either knowingly or unknowingly being duped and is therefore retarded.

I agree it's not a deal-breaker but fucking c'mon.

>>733478750
So you're a butt hurt insecure fag?

You're the red flag friend.

>>733480942
ok, i guess the bigger more abstract picture makes more sense (as a red flag)

>>733481014
>look at that estrogen filled brain try to work
awww its cute

>>733480942
Which is bad only to a poor fag.

>>733474059
These are all true

>>733481189
see
>>733480987

>>733475327
>can spend time with you, without talking every 5 seconds
This one is quite underrated tbh

>>733479885
Underrated post, keep it simple.

>>733481014
I'm secured in my assertions. They are true, even if only anecdotally. That is why you chose to call me an insecure faggot, and call me a red flag, rather than attack my logic... because you can't. Neither can they. I levy that you are a female, an unreasonable female... possibly a misguided man. I cannot reason with unreasonable people. A man capable of reasonable coherent thought that cannot be manipulated is certainly is a red flag.

>>733481189
The reason I have more than many do is specific, just because you can spend money on something doesn't mean you should. It also doesn't mean that I don't own things that far surpass the value of a yearly new smart phone, only that I place no value on it, thus don't bother.

>>733476227
This is very true, how people treat people they don't have to be nice to tells a lot about them.

who is she ..anyone have moar? is she from OKC

Aspie here. Why is it a red flag that she has lots of guy friends?

>>733481842
she's most likely sleeping with them whenever it's not you

>>733481892
Even if ur the boyfriend?

>>733481932
I hope you are kidding. Listen to the words I have said, or learn the hard way.

>>733474059
Truer words have never spoken.

>>733481842
The reason is because girls don't like her because she fucks their boyfriends and because she fucks her male friends or string them along like emotional tampons.
Women with almost exclusively male friends are pretty much all cluster-b's, they will be great in bed, but anything outside of the bedroom will be a nightmare.

>>733474059
This is basically my mom.

>>733481932
especially if you're the boyfriend.
If she's already nabbed you, then why fuck you more than the few times necessary to keep you on the line for free meals and shit

>>733481932
wow, you are a true aspie. yes, that's why you wouldn't want to be the boyfriend in the first place

>>733481985
Ok follow up question: how does a girl having many guy friends mean she'll have sex with them if you're not having sex with her?

>>733473491
If she has dated nigger.

>>733481999
trips checked

>>733480262

You're boring in bed.

>>733473491
Does she have a career, not a job, a career.

Does she have her own hobbies. Something she likes to do without you, at least every couple weeks.

Does she read non-fiction.

Does she recognize that modern 3rd wave feminism takes things too far?

Does she at least make an effort to be mindful of the food she puts into her body

That's my list.

>>733473491
Here is my list.
>If she ever seriously uses sex as a bargaining chip.
>If she constantly acts jealous and keeps tabs of where you are at all times.
>If she keeps holding a grudge about small inconsequential stuff, that she then lists off in an attempt to convince you how shit you are.
>If she treats the concept of doing drugs, like a 6 year old would treat the notion of being left alone in a candy store for a night.
>If her first response is trying to manipulate you, instead of just asking if she wants something.
>If she threatens to do harm to herself, if you don't do exactly what she wants.
>When you find out that she chose you, because you were the next best thing, since your best friend wouldn't date her.

>>733482145
Men should not ask this of themselves.

>>733482136
My girl doesn't crave other men's cocks so I must be doing something right.

>>733482103
Have you ever heard of the parable about the frog and the scorpion?
A frog is about to cross a river when a scorpion comes along. The scorpion asks the frog if he can get a lift on the frogs back across the river.
The frog says "no, you will sting me". The scorpion says "why would I do that? We would both drown if I stung you" and the frog agrees to take the scorpion across the river. Halfway across the scorpion stings the frog and the frog exclaims "why did you do that?" to which the scorpion replies "because it is in my nature"

Does she have a penis?

If yes, then don't date her.

If no, then check other red flags, then date her.

>Traps are fucking gay

>>733473491
>Ways to tell if a woman isnt or is worth your time or being in a relationship with based on your life lessons.

They will verbally tell you, if you listen to what they are saying.

ie. One girl I met told me "My ex thinks I'm a whore."

Lo and behold, her ex was correct.

Another one tells me her dad molested her older step sister, and is probably molesting her much younger step sister, guess who else he molested?

The thing is these types are telling you. Its the ones who are legitimately devious and don't run their mouths that you need to really worry about.

>>733482460
So basically she's a slut if she primarily has guy friends?

>>733482103
look at it this way: she wants to keep her sex at a minimum of once a day, you (the bf) are expected to be the one giving her that sex. If she has many guy friends that's other dudes (most likely) trying to get a piece. Now say she wants to have more sex, say 5/day, if you can't give her that (work, hobbies, etc.) then she'll find it only a hop skip and a jump to her circle of dudes already trying to stick it in any hole

>>733482029
Sometimes our family members are bad people. I am sorry you have to deal with that. Just remember it doesn't define you. Be who you are, and own it.

>>733482074
aspie response to an aspie

>>733482103
I can only tell you what I have seen for the past thirty years. With personal relationships, as well as what I have seen happen with dozens of other people. It doesn't mean that she will or won't based on an arbitrary number she has given you (that number is likely false anyway). I can tell you that objectively monogamous relationships are very difficult to attain. The reason is because we are biologically predisposed to chase the implied latter. A better stance is to develop yourself, and never seek validation through the opposite sex, more than the face value of it.

>>733482675
My perceived misogyny aside, I think you are wholly incorrect in asserting what compels women to do what hey do.

>>733482675
Thank you for the clarification! Makes sense now

>Is religious
>Talks too much and never listens
>Enjoys heavy drinking
>Fiscally irresponsible
>Has more than one credit card
>Wears designer clothing

>>733482895
What are some attributes that could be associated with having many guy friends except that she's a slut?

>>733483022
She detests being reminded she is a woman and thus surrounds herself with males for the purpose of:

1) Not being reminded
or
She feels she is less attractive or deserving of attention than other women so she

1) surrounds herself with males who give her more attention than they would if she was with a female friend

either way you slice it points to a very high level of insecurity and the inability to be at comfort within her own skin.

Serious question here: Why is it a red flag if she likes to drink?

>>733481842
what does a woman have to gain from a friendship with another woman? nothing but the friendship itself, there is an even power dynamic

what does a man have to gain from a friendship with a woman? Potentially sex (at least in his mind whether consciously or unconsciously), there is power imbalance. The woman can exploit the man (not all men will be exploited, not all women will exploit men, but the potential is there)

if someone is unwilling to enter into a friendship with a balanced power dynamic (like ina female-female friendship) something is wrong with her

probably a personality disorder.

or she really only enjoys male dominated hobbies and has autism or something, exceptions always exist thats why its a red flag not a red... wall? idk how to make this metaphor

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>>733481999
WHORE

>>733482570
Is the issue that she didn't tell you straight up that she was molested or that she was molested in the first place?

>>733479285
Clearly we have dated the same woman

>>733483436
>Why is it a red flag if she likes to drink?
Its if she likes to drink alot.
If she hangs out with women who drink a lot
If she goes out to bars on her own without friends and drinks even a little

These are all red flags because you are lookingg at someone who will use the alcohol to fuck up and use at an excuse later (Usually crying) about doing something while she was drunk and telling you how sorry she is while you attempt to console her with "Its not your fault" when it completely is her fault.

People are gonna say all sorts of stuff about bitches and ho's but I think there's only two things that's important in a relationship; compromise and lack of resentment.

If you can get through the hard times by compromising and without resenting each other, you're all good.

>>733481398
It's the basis of both my last and current relationship

>>733483566
No she did eventually tell me and though "molestation" per-say doesn't always lead to a very fucked up head, it does when it's a parent or sibling. She was great in bed, but the emotional detachment of a whore.

Throughout my life I keep hearing that women mature faster than men. I've objectively observed this and found it to be true. But here's the other side to that. Women don't mature past high school age, maybe early college age. As men build their life and mature and work, women continue to leech off men just like living off their fathers through their lives. They remain children living off one man after another, never actually maturing. Women are children and are to be treated as such. If you ignore the red flags and let them do what they want, all you have is a rebellious teen on your hand, no matter what the actual age is (I'm even thinking of my mom at this point). Your money will go to supporting her and making sure you buy enough for her to justify her willingness to fuck you, her money is for her to play with.

Women are children and are to be treated as such. If my girl doesn't do what I say, she gets bent over my knee.

>>733483795
Same here. Makes things a million times more chill

None are really worth it in the end. They all end up stale and boring after enough time then it's just staying together for family, friends, status quo type shit. Ideally we would find a girl that we like and find attractive, maybe even fall in love and stay together for X amount of years and then when it got boring we could say "well I guess we're done here." Women are too batshit for that to work out though.

>>733483436
Typically it is associated with social promiscuousness. But it is not necessarily true. I am a full fledged drunk, and I haven't had sex in 5 years. The way you tell is if they use alcohol as an excuse for inappropriate behavior... specifically sexual behavior.

>>733483566
I have seen it both ways. A girl I know was molested was like fucking a dead body, and the other sucked my dick like it owed her child support. It is a bit of a mixed bag. I think for this we have to separate 'what is a good fuck' and 'what is a good girl to try to develop a relationship with.'

>>733483811
I have found this to be exactly true, sans the last part.

>>733476552
>>733476753
Came for the advice, stayed to see more of this femanon.

Timestamp please

>>733483811
THANK YOU
I say this all the time.
Women are told when they are very young (12 in my day maybe a bit later now?) that (essentially) 'when they bleed they are women'

And they do physically mature faster (average girl is fully physically matured to have children at age 15).

The thing is, as you know, when they bleed they think they are women and therefore think they now magically know the world. While this is not always the case (obviously more intelligent women will know they are very naive about whatever they are naive about and not masters of the universe because more men are now giving attention to their recently spawned breasts) there is a significant amount who are essentially self retarded because of this belief. It also doesn't help that they often look to the wrong peers to reinforce their beliefs or answer their questions.

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here's some i learned from a painful two years

>possessive
>jealous of other girls but has guy friends
>seriously i couldnt rt another girl on twitter or like another girl's pic on ig without her flipping her shit
>like holy fuck i rt'd a tweet that said "i love kali uchis" and she fuckin raised hell for it
>expects you to shit on women that flirt with you but wont do the same for you
>wants to be around literally all the time
>cant shut the fuck up and share silence with you
>expects wounds to heal with time and without conversation
>cant admit fault and/or accept responsibility
>doesn't care if you don't finish
>helpless when trying to inform her how to perform better in bed
>talks shit to you about her friends but hangs out with them the next day
>any sort of daddy issues (which, in retrospect, is probably what everything above stemmed from)

please take this advice anons. i don't want anyone to suffer how i did. no one should have to endure that.

>>733477974
What's wrong with horses?

>>733484311
This sounds exactly like my current boyfriend holy fuck (also inb4 'femanon' I'm gay)

>>733484311
one more thing to add and this is kind of a personal one:

if you don't have the same substance habits as her, don't date her. i'm sober and she liked to smoke pot and drink. it was fucking infuriating when she would try to get me to do the same.

>>733484499
Chicks that are into horses tend to be mentally retarded.

>>733483990
>I have seen it both ways. A girl I know was molested was like fucking a dead body, and the other sucked my dick like it owed her child support. It is a bit of a mixed bag. I think for this we have to separate 'what is a good fuck' and 'what is a good girl to try to develop a relationship with.'

He was posing that question to you, #1

#2) Molestation "victims" have turbo periods when they become hypersexual and shut down periods when they are put off by sex completely regardless of the partner (even if they are lez).

If the molestation, abuse was imparted onto them as a trauma (even if it actually wasn't) then the brain rewires itself in a skewed manner that causes this manic juxtaposition where it goes back and forth trying to set itself to the center.

>>733484508
fuckin leave him anon. cut your losses while you can. my only regret that i had leaving my ex is that i didnt do it sooner.

>>733484636
Yeah, been trying to get out of the relationship for a good 6 months, but each time he weasels back in. It's hard to rip off the bandaid because I have such a soft spot.

>>733475358
/Thread

>>733484632
As a molestation victim, I haven't experienced either of these things. I have disassociation during sex from time to time and some perverted fantasies, but it doesn't affect my sex life too much.

>>733484531
Actually somewhat true. Its been said in clinical circles that a woman who "loves" horses (and no, not in the typical chan phrasing of that) can not have a normal relationship with another adult. Its been ages since I discussed it, but it essentially has to do with the projection of love to an animal as a defense mechanism, because "an animal can't hurt you" though I bet the last chick who got kicked in the head by the horse she loved would beg to differ.... if she could stop drooling.

>>733484729
i understand, anon. i had trouble admitting to myself that i need to leave my ex.

it's all willpower. do you live together? if not, then break it off and block any form of communication.

and don't let him play any of that "let's still be friends" type shit either. my ex did that to me and tried telling me she still loved me a few days after. it's just them trying to keep the door open. slam that fucker shut, and if any part of them is left in the doorway then keep slamming until they rear out.

>>733484859
are you a female?
if so how old are you?

>>733474914
Tattos is true, other is... well, might mean she got fucked by multiple men.

Its simple. If the feelings are mutual. You be in a relationship, if the feelings are not mutual. Dont be a pussy and just let it go sooner than later.

>>733484872
Source.

>>733484872
same thing dogs, not all people with dogs obviously but some people do this with their dog (like my mom)

>>733484508
Fucking leave dude, also, why the fuck would you have a serious relationship when you are gay?
I would just wrestle my friends for top position or something.

>>733484898
We don't, no. He's the kind of person that would kill himself if I just completely blocked off contact, and I didn't realise that until I was in too deep. And yeah, he'll say he still wants to be friends each time I break it off, then we end up having sex again, then getting back together. It's a fucked cycle that I'm struggling to get out of.

>>733484632
should've read
>He was NOT posting that question to you, #1

>>733484509
it seems like it was more of a problem with mob mentality, seems like she felt better if you did it with her, don't do it just cause she wants you to

>>733485011
Check'd. Also, because I love affection. Sue me.

tattoos
self inflicted wounds

>>733485015
>he'll kill himself

let him follow through if he says that, that manipulative fuck. you're not responsible for that.

and ain't it easy to get dick? just get grindr if you dont have it already

>>733485041
i understood the first time she asked, but she always tried to get me to no matter how many times i said no. and i never did partake.

in retrospect it probably wasnt a big deal, but it was really easy to get frustrated with her considering how immature she was.

>Nothing is ever enough for her
>Everything must be her kind of perfect
>Very apathetic towards your general state
>Each selfie caption is self-depreciating
>Replies to conversation with flat filler
>Gets overly attached to specific material gain
>Only owns thongs
>Not acknowledging when you have an issue with "us"
>Never wanting to give you time to yourself
>Always needing to update their status
>Gives all attention to her phone
>Is more often an air-head than not
>Visibly excessive tattoos
>Expects the world of you, but doesn't hold herself to any standards
>You gotta foot the bill on most purchases
>Overly interested with a hobby for a short amount of time
>Understands (almost literally) nothing in world politics
>Under appreciates the arts
>Pauses to read the first letter of each line

>>733484962
Source it yourself, its out there. Its been ages since I read up on that type of displacement, besides the thread is on life experience, assuming you have any (I'm not assuming that at all). I'm not here to convince you, I'm just sharing a factual piece of information. Believe it or not, I will still get "paid."

>>733484935
There are turbosluts with the tightest vagoos you have ever seen and virgins with roast beef sandwiches, has nothing to do with usage.

Greenlights from personal experience:
>Makes food for you, especially in the morning and carries breakfast and coffee to your bed.
>Agrees and supports all decisions you make
>Watches rekt/gore videos with you
>Sex any time you want, constantly horny
>Doesnt hang around with guys and allows to check texts n shit
>9/10 ass and 9/10 face.
>Smokes weed with me
Guess i'm just lucky

>>733485248
or you shouldn't be on this website

>>733485049
>because I love affection
Too bad you are gay then as all gay dudes are turbosluts because they can be.

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>>733485237
This is true.

I've found that skinny, no matter how slutty, is generally tighter than, well, lets just call them fatties for the sake of argument and we'll just include any woman who isn't skinny under that blanket designation.

>>733485316
b-buh muh AIDS

>>733485316
I've only slept with one person in my life, and it's him so HA

>>733485307
Why not? Most of the Time i browse here is with my gf for ylyl n shit

>>733485248
I was once like you. just enjoy while it lasts..

>>733485442
I guess nothing lasts for ever, but still, gotta enjoy every moment there is right now.

>>733474905
In most real social situations you will be forced to be around people you hate. Hell in most family reunions you will be stuck around people you hate. Acting like a cold twat to prove you don't like someone can create unnecessary social tension that benefits literally no one. Acting like you don't hate certain people for the good of not ruining an event with attention.grabbing trivialities is part of growing up and not being a whiny bitch.

>>733485374
I was thinking more like in the way of gay relationships rarely work out in the long run, there are some of course, but it is rare for gay dudes to be monogamous.
Ever considered that his jealousy stems from his knowledge of how much he has cheated?

>>733474059
> Can be charming eith people you know she hates
That's just like the gf I just broke up with.
Too many red flags.

> bitch loves reality T.V. shows
Braindead swampdonkey

If she says she has mental issues and that you don't want to get involved with her. Don't think "meh, how bad can it be".

She isn't joking.

>>733485603
There is a difference between being cordial and being straight up fake.

>thinks with emotions
>tells some insignificant mistake you made several months ago during an argument which is totally incoherent to the actual subject
>tries to alienate you from people and attempts to manipulate you
>has low self-esteem, therefore takes everything as offense
>always promises to do things for you but fail because of mood swingings

>>733485655
He's cheated multiple times in the past, I'm not even sure how many at this point. It fucking kills me inside but I'm too much of a beta cuck to just tell him to go fuck himself and find me a new man. Shit sucks man.

>>733485721
>>tells some insignificant mistake you made several months ago during an argument which is totally incoherent to the actual subject
That is actually a tactic pretty much all women do to distract you because you just made a great point that destroyed her argument, if you take the bait you lose so never take the bait.

>>733485813
Leave and let him kill himself (he won't, he is just emotionally manipulating you like the parasite he is)

>Greenlights
and their respective redlights

>Will make you a coffee tea without being told (or at least asks you if you want one when she makes her own)
Makes her own drink without bothering to ask you

>Offers sexual activity occasionally without being pressured
When asked for sex, complains (ruining the mood) and then reluctantly agrees to do it after complaining, and gets self-righteous or annoyed that you are off-put by her initial complaining.

>After knowing you closely for some time, relaxes and is happy to wear pajamas/sweatpants etc at home with you
Doesn't dress up nice unless she's going somewhere without you

I have a really sweet but slightly overly dependant gf of 5 years and have fucked some real crazy before this so I know some shit

>>733477974
Horses are ok. You know nothing fag

>>733475327
Good stuff?
There are 3:
> doesnt complain while sucking cock, no matter how long it
> doesnt just cook and clean, but cooks and cleans regularly and very well
> doesnt speak when men are

those are my rules. I hate it when slags interrupt conversation to interject.
When my boys and I conversate, she needs to refer to the above, or make drinks.
I've found one so far who has enough self convidence to not speak or be overtly visible when not already invited to a conversation.

Basically, can your woman be a woman when it is proper to do so?

>>733485015
as long as he doesnt murder-suicide you who cares, he is a manipulative cunt who is ruining your life, if the decision is between his life and yours you have to choose your own life, thats not just human nature that is *the* law of nature of life

>>733486088
this is the best advice i've ever received and it's on fucking 4chan. huh.

>>733485961
>Doesn't dress up nice unless she's going somewhere without you

Goddamn I have never had this happen to me, but that is like a DEFCON 0 level red flag.

>>733485603
its easy to avoid people though, I mean yeah if you are forced to be in a room with someone being civil is of course good but these people will voluntarily seek out the person they hate

>>733486050
> doesnt speak when men are
I don't mind that, unless she only holds retarded opinions, but I wouldn't date her because of that in that case.

>>733475528
You know in the horror movie, when everyone in the fucking audience thinks "stop" get the fuck out now, don't take one more step"?
Yeah, it's you they're thinking about.
But if haven't figured that out in 12 she must be one crazy bitch in bed, on the couch, in the kitchen, blowjobs as you drive, etc, etc, etc, so ...

>>733474059
This.
This bro gets it.
If you only remember one post from 4chan, EVER, remember this one.

Two crucial things:

1. Supports you unconditionally unless you are being an asshole, and then is able and willing to call you out without embarrassing you.
2. Sucks your dick often without prompting.

>>733475358
lost on the first, deal breaker

>>733484311
>This

Although, i have been in a relationship with a few girls who weren't like this. Actually, no just one girl. The rest were.

I think daddy issues is most definitely the source. The only girl who was normal had a "normal" father.

>>733486333
My shit got cut off. There was more text but fuck it

What i was sayin is when not involved in a conversation, be accommodating.
Dont seek attention.

>>733474059
These things kinda apply to me, but the guy version. Can you explain why it's so bad?

I have many more female friends than guy friends.
I tell small lies.
I become more aggressive while drunk.
I've cheated (you would've too if you saw the girl).
I can be charming with anyone.

Now that I think about it, this applies to Trump, too, minus the drinking part (that we know of).

>>733483637

Hold me anon

She just dumped me

And made it seem like it is all about her.

Never gave me any recognition whatsoever.

>>733476744
fag

>>733473491
I think the best way to tell if a women is not worth your time is if she is a female. Yeah that is it

Its simple
Dump her
https://youtu.be/wFefATs9qkI

>>733487013
its indicative or narcissism or some other personality disorder which makes them a terrible person to be in a relationship with

if you understand your illness you can try to work on it, work around it, resist it, etc
but that probably wont happen

>>733486131
were always here for you /b/ro

>>733474569
Lives on her own, doesn't require money from others, has 1 or fewer children. doesn't demand anything of you. Not heavily religious.Will try things on her own with asking others for help.

Those qualities are not garuntees for a girl to be sane but its a start.

One major flag is is when she does not deficate.

Pretty much everything can be worked on and it's more or less personality.

>>733488517
eating disorder? or what are you implying?

It's not rocket science. Just ignore your dick for a second and consider whether she's a good person absent your sexual urges.

Jesus, the things males are retarded at doing.

>>733476744
Was like you 5 years ago, no I have 3 exs and I understand/approve almost all red flags in this thread

>>733483763
Underrated

>>733477369
>>Says she doesn't deserve you
This fucking thing, once a girl tell you that, you can be sure she has been flirty with someone else or even worst

if i avoided every woman that shows redflags like these named in this thread then i would be lonely forever lol

>every girl (or person in general) does small lies. EVERY. if you say you don't then you lie too
>every girl usually has male friends or at least males they talk to
>90% or more of all girls get horny when they are drunk. this has a reason but i forgot it and im to lazy to google
>every girl pretends to like every other girl it's just normal

the only things i fully agree with are:
>girls that cheated on you or on other guys before (they will do it again for sure)
>girls that do big lies, lie about going to somewhere or lying about another guy

>>733489888
also: >girls that left another guy for you. they will leave you for a better guy aswell

>>733489554
Devil's advocate, or I'm retarded, you decide, but:
Current gf says this. Has self esteem issues. They're known. She thinks I'm out of her league. So maybe it's that.
She does say that in a romantic way, as praise when I do something thoughtful for her.
Dunno if she's an exception to, or an example of this.

>>733474611
You want her to be civil, not charming

>>733489974
Exceptions exists but this is what i've noticed with my relationships and friends one

>>733490095
This.

>>733474914
>>large pussy lips = slut maymay
>virgins itt don't know shit about vaginas

>>733489888
In respect of your trips, I think you are being biased. There are always exceptions, Anon.

>>733475327
>>can spend time with you, without talking every 5 seconds
Yus

>>733479159
Femanon #4 here too. My husband also agrees; he's a gorillionaire btw. When he's not watching me fuck another man, he's too busy taking my anal virginity. Die alone nerds

>>733490113
For perspective, she says it with a smile on her face and it's usually followed by "I'm so lucky". Reading what other anons have said I'm a little more questioning of this habit, but I'm also wary of misconstruing her infatuation with me as some shady shit.

>>733474611
You dumb cunt. She should ignore those people.
You autistic fuck.

>>733485215
wtf is wrong with thongs? they work best with yoga pants

>>733489974
> self esteem issues
and some hot chad thundercock fucking her will improve her self esteem (temporarily)

not saying its gonna happen or even likely to happen just trying to describe why its a redflag

>>733490309
>>733490309
Watch out because if she starts to think that if she got you and she can get better you gonna be fucked
Pro Tips : Don't try to impreg her to keep her

>>733490295
>he's a gorillionaire btw
im crying lmao

>>733484953
But I'd rather sperg out about archetypes online

>>733488857
I want her to shit in my mouth

She has a dikc https://youtu.be/wFefATs9qkI

>>733490327
you seem like a catch.

>>733490458
i want to add
it stems from guilt, if she has low self esteem than the guilt is irrational/undeserved, but the low self esteem can still be an issue if she deals with it poorly

if she doesnt have low self esteem it means she *is* fucking other dudes

She doesn't have a feminine penis >:^(

>>733490502
She hasn't had a sort of race to get the Chaddest in the past - she's been forthcoming with who she's been with. I think it's at least possible that she is genuinely hype that I'm around, because I am more attractive than her.

>>733490829
Self esteem issues she 100% has. Not saying guilt is impossible, but there are at least legitimate grounds.

>>733490327
>what are coworkers
>what are social clubs
>what are neighbors
>what are lawyers, judges, police, homeless, bill collectors, etc

>>733490726
>>733490832
Now I'm confused. Should she or should she not have a penis?

My list.
>Isn't open minded
>Isn't capable of critical thought
>Isn't intuitive
>Isn't spiritual
>Isn't willing to expand their being
>Doesn't care about themselves (mind and/or body)
>Unwilling to be feminine
>Does not want children
>Has children from other folk aready

>>733483763
This. Such allows the catalyzition of growth and without such downward spirals are almost inevitable.

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>>733491192
>capable of critical thought
>spiritual

>>733476179
it's like you've never considered the concept that it is possible for a male and a female to have a strong platonic bond

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>>733473491
Any women below age 30.
Any woman who is muslim, athiest, or non religious
Any women into recreational use drugs, this includes alcohol
Any woman you meet at a place that serves alcohol
Any woman who is or has ever served in the military
Currently working strippers
Currently working porn actresses
Single mothers
(And the big one but obvious)any woman you find unattractive

>>733473491
>wayward spending or impulse shopping.
terribly immature habit that'll bleed you dry
>Facebook freaks
Any obsession towards social media suggests serious issues with self image or a fear of abandonment

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>>733491969
If they are intellectuals there are numerous paths to connect experiential being to spiritual paths, quantum mechanics being perhaps the simpliest. Typically though, and due to their yin nature, such is not required as they are intuitive enough to bypass the necessity of such technical explanations when they can *feel* the power of spirit.

If they are mundane, I don't want them as my partner -- I only date magical folk, or at least those who are willing to learn.

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>>733476795
yes! i agree wholeheartedly. i feel it is best to match men on an intellectual and aspirational level in order to have a successful relationship.

of course, these aren't the only, er, 'requirements' per se, but they are key!

>>733476621
>IG, wahhh she let me on her social media
it's not about letting you, it's about wanting/making you
>new phone, booo has money
not necessarily, but definitely spends more than necessary
>consults friends. Damn it's terrible to be smart and make an informed decision.
He said small decisions. going through the whole decision process is sometimes worse than making a bad decision

>You're going far in life.
Going far is only good if you know you're going to a better place

>>733492353
So you want a 30+ year old teetotaling Christian or Buddhist girl who you met either at work or church.
But it's okay if she used to be a stripper or a porn star.

Am I reading this right?

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>>733492429
>yin nature
>*feel* the power of spirit
>I only date magical folk
>capable of critical thought

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>>733493771
Oh you poor muggle.

>>733493184
Op said "from experience". I know nothing about retired or fired pornstars, or dating Christians. I'm telling what hasn't worked out. You're over thinking guy. I have what I want now though. Not quite the age but I was looking for, but 29 year Hispanic Christian lady seems to working good

>>733493908
Well now I know about dating christians. First time

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>>733493892
I may be wrong but at least I am wrong in a logically cohesive manner

>>733475947
What is it with these fucking bitches having to announce to the world they are female? Seriously FUCK OFF

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>>733494241
Kek, come back once you've examined your world kiddo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXqyf13HeM

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>>733476621
You sound like a teenager