ITT: your thoughts on the finale for Samurai Jack Question:

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>>733290473
Why this season have only 10 episodes ?

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mfw it was all for nothing

>>733290473
Because the episode wasn't just 20-22 minutes of straight up Jack vs. Aku. But for what we got I thought it was a pretty satisfying ending to the show.

Because people like to complain.

>>733290473
I knew Ashi was gonna die but I expected her to kill herself while trapped in the suit.

But for what it's worth it at least finished the story it was telling - which was Jack's journey to defeat Aku. Also the use of the original monologue from the original seasons was a neat meta callback.

I am so fuckin disappointed about Ashi's death. I mean come on, it's a cartoon, some things can have some fuckin full happy endings, why literally everything in modern artistic culture tends to make some small flaw in the ending

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>>733292449

Jack deserved a better ending than a fucking ladybug. It's Gurren Lagann all over again.

>>733291876
Yeah I will admit that part was underwhelming. People had been waiting for like 13 years for the show to come back and Jack barely fights Aku before killing him.

>>733292526
say something remotely smart. Your shitty jpg didn't set a bar high, so you have a shot

>>733291758
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2q4H6IzUo

>>733292587
yes this

>>733292549
I mean, he got what he wanted minus the girl in the end - got back home from the future and beat the bad guy.

>>733290473
I don't think it was a matter of being good or bad, it was whether it was satisfying or disappointing and really it was both.

>>733292449
Well if they wanted to be consistent she had to die since Aku never existed. The only way Ashi could have stayed would be if Jack had stayed in the future and killed Aku then (which I think could've been just as good an ending).

They shouldn't have gone into the past. Ashi could have lived if they just killed aku there. Not to mention the Scotsmans daughters ceased to exist. Something I don't think he'd appreciate

For few seconds I thought that Jack would create new Aku. Last scene he went to some dark forest, and as we know, Aku himself was borned from some evil tree shit. I thought that Jack would somehow create Aku so the Ashi would be alive again (one day)

>>733292666

It's the way they showed it. If she disappeared as soon as Aku was dead it would be ok. But giving us a wedding scene and then erasing her at the last second is a poor choice.

>>733292847
Yeah it's not that ashi died ys the fact we were cockslapped by a wedding tease

>>733292738
Yes but Aku had destroyed a large portion of the world and they would have to spent decades (if not more) rebuilding everything. Don't you think it's better to prevent and the pain and suffering Aku caused in the first place? Not to mention, Jack had an incentive to go back since he would be with his people in his village again, something that wouldn't have been possible if he stayed in the future.

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>>733290473
i don't consider their relation shit, but i think that, focusing on a romance, when there's like 10 episodes left to finish the plot, they should have increased the pace a bit there, first episodes were awesome, the rest felt slow imo, and made the finale look rushed, i think the season had a bad pacing overall, although i've enjoyed it mainly because it was Samurai Jack after all, also because of pic related

i also didn't like how they plagiarized TTGL's ending poorly

>>733293099
I suppose you're right

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>>733290473
Back off beardsley. Where is your bride? Wait. Don't tell me. You. Lost. Your. Wife.

>>733293140
I think the pacing was fine until they got to episode 6-7. But yeah the finale felt rushed. Judging from the pacing, it's like they were planning to release 4 or 5 more episodes. Did they stick with ten on purpose or was it because of some financial limitation?

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>>733293256

>>733293470
A wild Slaton sister appears unwanted in a Samurai Jack thread.

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am i the only one who would pay for a Scaramouche spin-off rather than more Jack?

>>733293641
I want an aku spin off...

>>733293641
You are the only one

Scaramouche was kinda enjoyable, but as a side character. Imagine him being the star of several episodes.

It's like with minions from Despicable. They are pretty fun to watch as short animation or some background characters, but their own movie sucked balls

>>733292711
Well yeah, logically of course Ashi was doomed from the start (assuming Jack would go back in time and not just kill future Aku). It's just kinda sad, I have noticed that recently many games, books, movies, animations, series etc. just can't allow themselves to have a happy ending. It's kinda depressing; everybody thinks it would be boring cliche, but come on, even a cartoon for kids about righteous samurai couldn't have a happy ending? Sigh...
so yeah, logically you are right. Still kinda shame though.

>>733293741
So much this. Goofy and entertaining side characters are fun in small doses. They lack any real depth to be the focus of the story.

>>733293641
>>733293736
scramuche and aku spinoff where they parody television

(a)cooking with sacramouche

>>733293099
well, either this or a bitch
I'd take the bitch

>>733294043
the happy ending happened
we were just overwealmed by ashi coming with, the pointless death at the altar, and no jack vs aku last stand

aku is so terrible, he should have been beaten in the future and in the past alike, instead the fight was avoided...
so much waste storywise

>>733294043
>I have noticed that recently many games, books, movies, animations, series etc. just can't allow themselves to have a happy ending.

It's funny. That type of ending became popular because it provided an alternative to the "happily ever after" cliche that people were growing tired of. But ironically that alternative has sort of become a cliche itself. I don't think there's anything wrong with a happy ending as long as it's not lazily written just to be a crowd pleaser.

>>733294591
wasn't fully happy. You know what I mean, please let's not be nitpicking here

i'm kinda glad that there was no big jack vs aku

>>733294642
>>733294043
people need to mix the two, like not everything is a happy ending but that doesn't mean its all always pain and suffering

>>733294043
>>733294642
also, like i said before, we got the happy ending, aku got back to the past the undid the future that is aku that has been the talk from the start

just the romantic bullshit had to be avoided
read >>733294591
i dont want to write it again

>>733294591
If only they had made like two more episodes it would've been perfect.

>>733294859
Cool. Now if you would ask Jack which ending would be happier for him: returning to past and defeating Aku or returnin to past, defeating Aku and still having Ashi, then guess what answer he would give you.

Please don't write again, like anything ever

>>733294727
the only part that was not happy was jack losing the love of his life

kinda meaningless really, at this point...
i do appriciate the relationship the had, it was called for.. but futile(especially after that reveal in 09).. the weight of the world is not something you can compare to a first love..
also losing those redheads is kinda sad (scotsman never existed)
>>733295035
why? streach it out more?

>>733295178
are you daft?
im not saying it was a perfectly happy ending
im saying jack got what he has been looking for from the start, a way to defeat aku and go back to the past
the ashi part was saddening, but kind of a tease imo
also, get fucked

>>733291876
haven't seen the eps yet but basically this. i'd be mad if there wasn't at least an entire episode dedicated to finishing the story in the best way possible: final boss fight.

>>733295433
if you put it like this
>we got the happy ending, aku got back to the past the undid the future that is aku that has been the talk from the start
>just the romantic bullshit had to be avoided

then don't be surprised that your words are interpreted in a way that accepts actual finale as a fully happy ending

fuck redheads, they were all bad
should have way bigger tits

yes, ashi part was saddening, that's why I'm not fully ok with how it all ended. It's a cartoon for kids, I'm pretty sure that author could come up with any bullshit excuse to defy that "interfering with time and fate" issue. I don't know, some japanese monk summoning Ashe's spirit from the time zone or some other mumbo jumbo

I am not saying current ending is bad as of "low quality", and yes it is happy. I am just saying that I was hoping for the happiest one.

>>733294859
It's not that it wasn't a happy ending. The point of>>733294043 and >>733294642 is that writers nowadays seem incapable of having a happy ending without some element of tragedy for fear it might look lazy and cliched. But ironically, those kind of endings have become cliched and predictable. For example I (and probably most people) knew with absolute certainty that Ashi would die at the end. Not because the story hinted at it, but just because we've seen that kind of formulaic writing thousands of times before. If they had managed to pull off a happy ending that was consistent with the story where Ashi and Jack lived happily ever after, I would have been surprised.

>>733295433
Not to stretch it out more but make the finale a two or three part episode. Didn't you say that the finale was rushed?

>>733295778
>writers nowadays seem incapable of having a happy ending without some element of tragedy for fear it might look lazy and cliched

exactly this

>>733295869
some writers deliberately killed off their characters so they could move on to other projects.

Tumblr is probably just upset because Jack didn't get into a gay relationship

>>733295773
>cartoon for kids
>released on adult swim
>whose target audience were kids who watched the show years ago who are all in their twenties now

Faggot do you want me to tip my fedora and start monologuing about how anime is the greatest art form ever invented too?

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>>733295778
now the tragic ending is starting to become a cliche of the cliche. Talk about irony

>>733296129
Yes, I'd love to.
Please don't fuck with me on this one, you are well aware it's not some fucking dark animation, it's not fuckin Spawn man with a pedophiles and demons. It's a goddamn cartoon for kids and doesn't matter if it is released on fuckin porn channel, GoreZoneTV, adult swim or fuckin hannah montana vlog

Scenario 1: Time is linear. When Jack went back to the past and killed Aku he erased the Future That is Aku. This erased i.e. killed all of his friends and allies and the innocent people of the future. This makes him a mass-murderer orders of magnitude worse than Hitler.

Scenario 2: Time is divergent. When Jack went back to the past and killed Aku he created a new timeline, a Future That isn't Aku. Remember that Jack did not kill Future Aku before traveling to the past. In this case, Jack abandoned all of his friends and allies and the innocent people of the future to deal with the Future Aku on their own.

Either way you slice it, Jack is a fucking dick.

>>733296296
Christ anon I was just meme'ing

>>733296504
yeaaa i know, sr man, I'm easily triggered today

>>733296096
kek

pretty soon /b/ will get upset when they notice that before her death Ashi wasn't revealed to be futa and didnt fuck Jack in the ass

>>733296550
Is everything ok?

>>733296372
how does going back in time to kill the evil being kill his future allies? wtf?

>>733296372
>implying letting aku is live is less evil than killing him

>>733296372
Scenario 1: people not existing doesnt mean people dead, just not born yet from jacks prespective, also saving all those who aku killed in the present.

scenario 3: jack goes back to the past, aku follows him, epic battle. past aku dies. future aku runs away, jack keeps traveling the world with ashi to find and kill aku

scenario 3.5: future aku dies, past aku lives, bonds with jack (or jacks sword) as a bargin for ashi to stay alive

>>733296770
yeaa i am just, honestly, kinda upset about this ending. it's not like i'm some dude that spends whole days on anime, manga and cartoons, I watched only samurai jack from such things. And recently literally everything I touched, like book, movie or game, have some kind of flawed ending. Like there just has to be a fly in at least one plate on the whole dinner table, just no more happy endings, fuck everything

so i was like "ok, at least samurai jack is a goddamn cartoon, surely he will fuck Ashi balls deep in her mouth"

just bit tired and frustrated because of those "flawed happy endings", they are such cliche nowadays

>>733296778
Picture this, someone goes back in time to kill Julius Caesar before he crosses the Rubicon. The Roman empire never reaches the peak of its power, Catholicism never spreads, the world is changed in innumberable ways etc etc. There's no fucking way you are going to be alive with so many things in history different from the events that led to your conception. That's basically what Jack did to the future. The Scotsman and the ravers etc couldn't possibly exist now.

>>733297092
Yeah I get it. But the problem lies with the way the story was set up. Since Jack killed past Aku, there was no way for Ashi to live. If writers had ignored this fact and let Ashi live, everyone would start throwing a bitch tantrum while shouting "MUH TIME PARODOX". So maybe the tragic ending wasn't a conscious decision, but rather just an inevitable consequence of the story. You could argue that they could have avoided this simply by making Jack kill Aku in the future instead.

But that creates another problem. The entire focus of the story was Jack trying to get back to the past. The first seasons were all about Jack trying to find a time portal to get back to the past. Even the end credits song is "gotta get back, back to the past, Samurai Jack". It would have been awkward for the series to end with Jack in the future instead of him finally getting back to the past.

>>733295643
why would a fight between jack and aku take a whole episode though? Jack always whoops on aku without much effort. It's aku being able to run away everytime that was the problem

>>733298042
>If writers had ignored this fact and let Ashi live, everyone would start throwing a bitch tantrum while shouting "MUH TIME PARODOX".
yes, but let's be honest here, writer has power to do literally anything, he could come up with any explanation, some "japanese monk resurrects Ashi's spirit" mumbo jumbo

writer's powers is the reason batman lives

>>733293140
>not realizing that TTGL was "plagiarizing" almost all classic samurai epics.

Not only were they not the first to do that kind of ending, but it's considered the norm for these sort of stories.

If you have the patience for them, go watch some of kurosowa's catalogue.

>>733298394
>>733298042
>>733297092
I'm totally cool with the ending. Thought it was beautiful, but there really was no reason for ashi to disappear, she was outside of the timeline that got erased, she shouldn't have been affected.
Only thing that bothers me is if ashi got erased, then so should all of jack's memories of the future.

>>733298228
well i just think that if we revived the series for one final run they would make the final episode go out with a bang. i'm thinking of a lot of popular season finales that are usually 2 parters or twice as long as a normal episode would usually be. it's not a standard and not as cliche as some might assess it to be if done the right way. they could have made aku transform into this like level 2 or whatever kinda like frieza transformations. that would be cool