To be a liberal, there has to be something very mentally wro

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>inb4 le centrist meme
What if I told you that liberalism and conservatism are not the only political ideologies out there?

>>733114184
True story
Libertarians are fucking retarded too

>>733114184
True, true.

Also 1/2 >>733114446

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>>733114446
So what are you then? Because most ideologies are even worse than modern liberalism, they're just not as prevalent.

>>733114184
>it's impossible to have liberal values and be a trump supporter
Neck yourself

>>733114929
liberalism is a mental disorder.

>>733115087
>Neo-liberalism*
Has changed with the snowflakes

>>733114184
cool. Global warming is just a myth invented by the chinese. We don't need rain forests. Personally i go to bed everynight praying for a dust bowl. Who needs water when you have Mt. Dew?

>>733115215
ill drink 2 that

>>733115216
found the liberal. post your face you ugly shit

>>733115216
Dude, global warning is scientifically proven.
The thing is, the time scale it's millions of years.

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>>733114184

>>733114446
literally me lol

>>733115501
how long did you search for that one pal

>>733115381
Cheers, man
>By a Greekfag who's country created the right to vote (democracy)

>>733115614
Newfag?

>>733115628
based greeks

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>>733115446
what? no. I agree with Trump.

>>733114184
what's your definition of liberal though

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Libertarian Socialism is the best system

Conservatives and liberals are basically the same thing, it's just one is obsessed with stupid shit social issues like gender identity and obsessed with constitutional values
Economically, they have the same values of allowing corporatists to run the country

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>>733115215
Neoliberalism is what got us into this mess, you moron.
>Let's take all the shitty anti-white, anti-civilizational ideological dogmas of the left...
>...and mix it with the anti-white, anti-civilizational economic policies of the right!
>This is a good plan. We're not Jewish and this is a good plan.
Free trade and faggotry in one convenient package!

>>733115712
*and the other

>>733114184
Bait so weak im not gonna even post image of bait fish jst text

>>733115748
>i got my information from breitbart

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>>733114184

>>733115748
I'm thinking we agree by default.
What got into your asshole, man(?)

>>733114184
>autism: the post

>>733114184
>t. unemployed, high school drop out

>>733114184
Stupidity is a mental disease

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>>733115861
Breitbart is a far ways to the left of me, friend.
>>733115946
Wait, so you're not a neoliberal? I started autistically screeching for no reason?

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>>733115748

Both side are mentally defective.
Think for yourself.

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>>733115487
There's a myriad of environmental problems. Slash-and-burn is just as scary. The rain forest is where we get most of our antibiotics. Also millions of years? I doubt it... besides pollution definitely creates lung diseases/disorders. Some new research shows it might increase Alzheimer chances too.

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>>733116072

>>733114184
You're not wrong.

>>733115712
Yep, both sides serve the donor base 100%.

Their individual issues are just there to distract their supporters from that fact.

>>733114446
What if I preempt that with telling you that modern liberalism and conservatism can not only be broken into several individual factions, but their majority representations in society are bastardizations of their original forms.

Not to mention the definition of both are further distorted by their opponents using extremes to represent the whole.

>>733116072
Why would I be neoliberal?
That's unethical.

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>>733116160
The Confederates and the KKK did nothing wrong. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, Shariablue.

>>733116160
>Lincoln would be a strong Democrat today

Then why wasn't he back then?

Idiot.

>>733116268
except losing

kek

>>733115712
Any form of Libertarian is an idealist not fit for reality.

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>>733116323
I said they were never wrong. I never said they were successful.

>>733116347
Ancaps are kind of grounded in reality but if you're that far along just go full fash.

>>733116137
The wiki is a few clicks away.
Since I said "proven"

>>733114184
What's a liberal?

>>733116286
>republicans today have the same principles as republicans more than a hundred years ago

stupid people like you should be hanged

>>733116416
fucking losers lmfao

they were wrong about thinking they would win lmao

>>733116451
That wasn't what your image said.

Idiot.

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>>733116223
God wouldn't it be nice if people on the internet took opinions like this seriously? It's like how karl marx never actually said how socialism would work. It was mostly just philosophy not structure. He was an idealist and politicians took his opinions to push their own corrupt agenda. But now karl marx is demonized by people who never even read any of his books.

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>>733116286
you obviously can't read. Back then the conservatives were the democrats and the liberals were the republicans.

Mong.

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>>733116430
A cuckservative's way of saying "leftist" or "third-worldist."
>>733116499
Wow, excellent and thought-provoking points.

>>733116286
The parties started to flip ideologies back during nixon/reagan/clinton times moron

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>>733114184
I concur. Libs are fucking nuts, and essentially angry, over-emotional children in the bodies of adults.

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>mfw my "conservatism is a mental illness" shirt arrived today

I liked the logo of the cross-eyed elephant

>>733114184
>EVERYONES THE SAME!!!

Thats just showing youre stupidity.

>>733116596
fucking kek

you said they did nothing wrong

they wronged in thinking they could win

losers stay losers forever

SAD!

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>>733116617
That's a communist, not a liberal.

>>733116718
Autism speaks.

>>733116759
>communist, not a liberal.

As of late, pretty much synonymous.

Yo, this is not the *White Knight never get laid* community

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>>733116438
yeah but Trump is the manifestation of corporate greed. He is the corruption that deregulates to better the rich and screw the average american out of basic benefits. Hillary was just a puppet to corporate greed. Trump loves greed, he embodies it.

>>733116718

>>733116268
> The Confederates and the KKK did nothing wrong

they thought they could win, but they get their asses kicked and lost like faggots, so they thought wrong

i knew you were a sad loser like the confederates and kkk, but i didn't know you were also stupid

>>733116416
Haha, Ancaps can't be further from reality. Other methods produce corruptible governments, but they at least produce governments (or societies, for that matter).
Ancaps have done nothing, and will do nothing, because there is no ability to stop a greater, opposing power from destroying it entirely.

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>>733116842
True, but it's an important distinction to make.
A basic bitch liberal is to a communist what a """moderate Muslim""" is to an ISIS member. One is less violent, but they ultimately hold the same principles and ideals. A communist will hit you over the head with a bikelock if he can manage to lift it with his noodly arms, a liberal will merely sit by and applaud.

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>>733117049
I know that libertarianism is fucking retarded, there's a reason I'm a fascist.
I'm just saying that ancaps have some of the right ideas as opposed to ancoms and run of the mill lolbergs who are both totally braindead.

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>>733117119
>A basic bitch liberal is to a communist what a """moderate Muslim""" is to an ISIS member.

Mmmmmm, I don't believe that's an accurate analog. Western commies, AKA "antifa" are still 90 pound weaklings under their black hoodies and balaclavas. And I have no doubt are former Bernouts.

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>>733117536
Well, yeah, the analogy is kinda limited by the fact that Western leftists of all stripes are total trash who couldn't properly use a weapon to save their lives.
That's also part of what's so onerous about hearing "commies are the real fascists" shit- it's more insulting to us than the commies.

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>>733117357
you know as soon as you implement insults its not really a conversation anymore. now your just yelling into your own head. agreeing with yourself. Put in the effort to listen to views that contrast your own. Confirmation bias is a serious issue. If you want people to listen to you, find common ground, don't insult them. The day we stop listening to each other is the day man takes up arms because he can not find the words to relate what is in his head to others.

>>733114184
The country was founded on liberalism you idiot. The Enlightenment, Voltaire Rousseau, John Locke. Educate your dumb ass for a change.

>>733116718
but they won back in 2009 with obama and in 1993 with bill clinton.

>>733118185
>John Locke
The smoke monster?

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>>733117876
>"commies are the real fascists"

That shit needs to end. It's so grating to hear that continually from righties. What they really are, are militant communists, and I mean "militant" in a punk rock kind of a way.

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>>733118411
Yeah. Lost was a documentary, didn't you know?

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>>733117884
kek

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>>733118185
>if I intentionally misuse words and ignore the fact that the Overton Window has massively shifted to the left in the past two-hundred-odd years, I can pretend to be the inheritor of the Enlightenment

>>733114184
LoL..."I am a DOD robot, Liberals bad, liberals bad...". I know they gotta allow a certain percentage of you on here to stay online, but try to hide it better you high school dropout.

>>733114739
youre retarted

>>733118467
People that insult communism like this don't read Karl Marx. Many don't understand the difference between an idea (or philosophy) and how it's applied (or abused).

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>>733114739
Libertarians are probably the least retarded of all. What's better than giving less power to the feds and more to the states?

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>>733114184
OP are you loving the bait? It's fun being on the outside, huh?

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>>733118782
You read Marx because he's influential, not because he's ever correct in his prognoses or prescriptions.
Also, describing antifa as communist is entirely accurate. The fact that they don't implement it the way you might like has little to do with the matter.

I have muscular dystrophy sooo.

But I was a liberal when I was a healthy, pretty, little white girl

...with a poor single mom and daddy issues

fuck.

I'm actually more of a socialist

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>>733114184
>american politics in one image

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>>733114184
>lel libbies r so dum

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>>733118992
>implement
What am I saying, communism can't be implemented. I meant interpret.

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>>733114184

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>>733118782
I have nothing against communism per se. The problem is, it could never work in the US. It takes a certain kind of mindset of a countries citizenry for it to succeed. As for true communism Vs. whatever-we-have-here, I don't think that's relevant.

>>733114184
87/38
I thought it was obvious.

>>733114184
Wow. This is the dumbest thing I have seen on 4chan this side of /pol/. You didn't use a single argument that was even remotely valid. Good fucking god, you must be a moron.

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>>733118467
Exactly. It's cucking for the left and it's blatantly untrue.
Do liberals go around badmouthing their communist allies? No, at worst they make excuses or pretend they don't exist. Why conservatives feel the need to attack fascists and nationalists in an ill-guided attempt to win the left's favor is beyond me. Maybe they like their spot as controlled opposition.

>>733114184
An education is not a mental disease.

>>733115501
>r/the_donald

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>>733116072
>Breitbart is a far ways to the left of me, friend.
Don't cut yourself on that edge.

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>>733118992
Karl Marx is right about some things. Although his understanding of human nature is off (which greatly effects his works), a lot of people do prioritize their values in life poorly; wealth does not equal the appropriation to have influence in all matters. Trump shouldn't be president because "he is a successful business man." Real estate (or branding) has little to do with most presidential matters. Money should be considered a tool for an economic system, not an establishment of a person's quality, or ability.

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>>733119587
What happens, as with the Islamic scourge is, the right says "YOU guys are the fascists" because they are a large group trying to force their ideology on the rest of us. In THAT sense only are they fascist-like. It's a little lazy, but not entirely inaccurate.

ITT: A bunch of Crazy conspiracy theorists come together on /b/ for one giant Circlejerk. Meanwhile, the rational among us try to bring them back to reality.

>>733114184
And then there's my party, totally unaffiliated. You're all correct, and all totally retarded in your own special way.

>>733114184
0 subcribers
kek

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>>733120392

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>>733120210
Yeah, I'm not gonna toss the baby out with the bathwater and say that none of his analysis is on point. Unfortunately people can't take the good and leave the bad, and they end up doing stupid shit like reading history from a Marxist perspective, or trying to implement communism.
>>733120250
But implementing political aims through violence isn't strictly limited to fascists. The Freikorps, predecessors of the SS, were actually founded because communists were regularly staging uprisings in Weimar Germany. Even electoral politics is just violence abstracted by a couple of levels. As long as the right continues to make "fascist" a dirty word among their side, they'll never get what they want.

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>>733114184
>To be a liberal, there has to be something very mentally wrong with you. As a result, the majority of liberals (if not all) have major physical defects, such as extremely ugly faces, overweight bodies, and terrible, terrible genetics.

Can't say I disagree.

>If you're not a Trump supporter, it's because you're mentally and physically handicapped

This, on the other hand, is b8.

>>733120712
>As long as the right continues to make "fascist" a dirty word among their side, they'll never get what they want.

I'm actually absolutely ok with actual fascism as opposed to what Sweden has turned into.

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>>733120250
Fascism should only really be considered on a governmental basis. By definition fascism is nationalistic, so the major proponent of it is always the governing body. People are always enablers to their own opinions, it only becomes a problem when people in power abuse the opinion of a group of people. If you don't want to be an acting agent in fascism listen to opposing views, get outside of your bubble, and seed the best possible knowledge you can think of in the public. This goes for everyone. Its an individual process more so than a societal one.

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>>733114184
Liberalism is a belief in a world with no competition and no-one has any ambitions. A place in a far away utopia where the government literally looks after every single one of your needs.
This utopia is always reserved to:
- Fat lesbians who genuinely believe that they can take on men
- Spineless men who can't get a gf, or they settle for an asian
- Single mums
- Women of all shapes ans sizes really
- The utter dreggs of society
Why would a worthless piece of shit dream of society where he might have to do some work in order to stay a float?

>>733121210
[citation required]

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>>733120593
>Lurk Moar

Fuck off, just because I view all of you as a bunch of crazy lunatics doesn't mean I'm a newfag.

>>733120756
So? I don't think the military is going to join Liberals to overthrow Trump. The FBI is already doing that perfectly fine, and the Military doesn't interfere in civilian matters unless ordered to by the government. Honestly, there's nothing unamerican about having an opinion, regardless of what it might be. I don't call you unamerican for following a President, who, in my eyes is a Fascist Dickhole, and I expect the same from you to not go after me for my thoughts on the President Either. That "Jews Run the World" shit and the "Reptilian" shit is fucking Crazy though.

>>733114184
gr8 b8 m8 r8 8/8

>>733121210
Literally no reason to believe anything you say.

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>>733120901
People talk shit about Sweden but I think that you'll be one of the first to uncuck yourselves. Is Nordfront gaining strength over there or is that just a fake whitepill?

>>733121145
>By definition fascism is nationalistic, so the major proponent of it is always the governing body
Wait, dude. You're mixing all sorts of shit together and it's making you say things that are factually untrue. The government is not the nation. The government isn't even the state. And to say that any government in the West is fascistic or a proponent of fascism is completely nonsensical.

>>733121350
>Fuck off, just because I view all of you as a bunch of crazy lunatics doesn't mean I'm a newfag.
No, it's the other way around, like because you're a newfag you think we're a bunch of crazy lunatics.

>>733119144
What's the problem here? They look like well proportioned men standing up for their political beliefs.
We make fun of antifa because there is an observable propensity towards ill-health, malnutrition and drug abuse.

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>>733121145
I used to be a green liberal democrat. Ya know what drove me fully to the right where I am now? Listening to smug, elitist, self-righteous lefties for the 2 years during the recent election cycle. They disgust me, even though most of my friends are lefties.

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>>733121291
Empirical evidence ie looking at a crowd of liberals says otherwise.
But good for you for being a smug idiot like the rest of the entire DNC.

>>733121736
You know how I know you don't under statistics?

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>>733121602
My theory is that they don't actually see anything wrong with their appearance, so they think that if they post photos of right-wingers they'll make them look bad. Unfortunately they don't seem to realize that in any confrontation between the left and the right, optics are always on the side of the right.

>>733121726
Why do you keep deleting your posts, bro?

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>>733120712
Yeah the fact is capitalism is what works. It would be nice to implement some social benefits without conservatives freaking out. Often what works best is the spectrum between two ideas. To say we need to privatize everything to be as capitalistic as possible makes me go a little crazy. In other words; LONG LIVE MY RUSSIAN BRETHREN! VODKA AND FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE!

I've said it before but what is sad about the Dems is that at a time when they should be introspecting, they're looking to shift blame for their own failures, ensuring that the DNC establishment doesn't actually change. From the riots to the physical attacks to the refusal to accept the results, it's not a good look. This election wasn't actually a referendum on Trump, it was a referendum on what passes for the modern representatives of the liberal left in America, the Democratic party.

Democrats, you have completely and utterly lost touch with the common man, whose concerns used to be at the very center of the political left.

They're blaming the loss on everything, from sexism of Bernie supporters to Russia to fake news to everyone who voted against them being stupid. The left finally got an actual populist that talked about actual real issues like trade deals, stopping monopolies and putting term limits on Congress, and what did the DNC do? They crushed him to continue the failed policies of the liberal establishment.

They have abandoned their core principles. What passes for "liberal" today in America has almost nothing to do with classic liberalism (individual rights, freedom of thought/speech...etc). The great liberal tradition that rejects regressive dogmatic ideologies and which is compassionate to the working class stiffs that build the country is now gone. The left-wing movement in this country, at least going back the last 20 years or so, hasn't really been one of left-wing economics or individualistic free thinking, or using government to improve the lives of the working and middle classes. What's passed for left-wing politics in this country is really just identity politics: promising to give various handouts to some identifiable minority group (blacks, women, illegal immigrants, lgbt...etc).

>>733121210
As someone who has always done actual jobs like repairing, installing and building things. What exactly is on those papers?

What the fuck goes on in offices? Do they just read the papers or do they fill them out or something? Looks retarded to me. Nothing actually getting done, just a circlejerk.

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>>733121730
>smug
>entitled
All traits of the left. Traits of the loser.
University aged marxists seldom rise above the level of pond scum.

>>733121886 cont
Today that electrician stringing up wires of homes in Wisconsin, that welder putting together steel plates in Pennsylvania, that man fixing an elevator in Ohio, the many men across the country with dirt under their nails from working with their hands....these aren't your people anymore.

Instead you are now the party of the gender studies graduate with manicured nails, lecturing others about the evil racist sexist America, telling the struggling white working class that they hold white privilege and therefore hold an eternal debt to all non-white people based purely on the color of their skin.

The DNC is the the party of those who go absolutely nuts when a Christian baker doesn't want to be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding, yet instantly jumps in to defend insanely backwards ideologies like Islam when yet another Muslim mass murders innocent homosexuals.

It is the party of collusion with media to mislead the public, of corruption and saying nice empty platitudes that have been filtered through 5 focus groups as to not offend anyone while doing the very opposite of these platitudes.

It is the party of Black Lives Matter, the oppression Olympics, of 20 different gender pronouns, virtue signalling and all the noxious ideas like "social justice" that claim that all difference in outcome must be due to some etheral discrimination, and that places the collectivist forced equality of outcome over the rights of an individual.

>>733121960 cont
It is the party of the elitist air of moral superiority, of ivory tower attitudes holding contempt and instantly discounting the views of regular people that don't hold a degree studying Critical Theory or the works of Juddith Butler.

And what has this disconnect lead to? The following:

Republicans have won a majority in the House of Representatives, with 238 seats.
Republicans have won the majority in the Senate.
Republicans now hold 33 Governorships, with a gain of three seats on November 8.
Republicans control a record 68 of 98 state legislative chambers.
Republicans now hold more total state legislature seats, well over 4,100 of the 7,383, than they have since 1920
A former reality TV star with no government experience whatsoever won the White House.
President Trump will have one Supreme Court vacancy to fill immediately and could potentially add at least two more justices before his first term is finished.

The GOP now controls all levels of our government, it is the most powerful it has been in over 80 years according to Real Clear Politics and Washington Post.

>>733121993 cont

Come the midterms in 2018, the electorate map looks really good for the GOP and they could easily win enough seats to pass the threshold needed for them to start changing the Constitution.

And it wasn't because of Trump's brilliance or the Republicans, but because of YOUR failures.

You could have prevented this. You could have kicked out the out of touch elitists and candidates that can't connect with the average person, you could have listened to the common man instead you treated them like utter garbage, with the insufferable arrogance of guilt tripping and shaming everyone who disagrees with your identity politics nonsense.

You can get mad at me and continue down this path if you want.

But you made this bed for yourself.

And god damn do you deserve to now sleep in it.

>>733121825
>under statistics
Well that speaks for itself

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>>733121925
Very little of it is actually useful.

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>>733114922
hurr durr every idea other than my own are shit.

hurr durr

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>>733122237
Most things other than fascism are shit though. I mean, there's like, monarchism, or ancap if it could actually work. But other than that, yeah, it's nothing but trash.

Mfw trump supporters are literally delusional


removing Healthcare from poor people and telling them it's for the working class even though 26 million people lose it and the only people who benefit are millionaire insurance companies


the Department of education is a joke now too

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>>733121350
>there's nothing unamerican about having an opinion, regardless of what it might be. I don't call you unamerican for following a President, who, in my eyes is a Fascist Dickhole, and I expect the same from you to not go after me for my thoughts on the President Either.

Trump IS a dick, no doubt. I used to HATE Trump when he was tweeting all day about the birther nonsense. Ya know what made me like him at first? The fact that he would never apologize when lefties shit themselves over every off the cuff remark he made that wasn't perfectly formulated, written, and vetted by 20 people before releasing to the public.

Trump is the president that Americans deserve, and I mean that in every way possible.

What's "un American," is refusing to accept the will of an elected president and vowing to "resist" and "persist" and oppose the president and his policies. GW Bush was "not my president" either. I hated that guy more than any other politician or US president, and yet I never once took steps to "resist" or oppose him. I never voted for Obama, and yet I still managed to carry on without trying to throw a wrench in his presidency.

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>>733121371
I'm not saying the US is fascist. I'm just saying the catalyst to a nation becoming more fascist lies in the governing body. There's always going to be a minority of people that appeal to authoritarian rhetoric. The issue is when someone abuses that group of people. I'm saying if you want to solve the problem. Don't try to change everyone, point the finger where it deserves to be pointed. People in power that act like dictators.

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>>733122517
Shit i'm getting tired, and i'm too lazy to spell check my comments on 4chan. forgive me all mighty trolls!

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>>733122517
Shit dude I wish someone would abuse me like that. I'm ready for the fascism.

>>733122486
>the Department of education is a joke now too
>oy vey, it's slightly harder for me to pump children full of third-worldist garbage!

>>733121730
Don't consider the people that make up the parties. Think things out by logic, not by what group you fall into. the two party system is just another way we become bias. You can't generalize a person into a group. EG Even if Hitler was the coolest motherfucker to come out of Germany i would never believe in his stance.

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>>733121886
>>733121960
>>733121993
>>733122019
easier to read

>>733122019
Where did you quote that from? Shits nice.

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>>733122805
You're ready to stop being the acting agent in legislation that effects you? I want to believe what you said was a joke, but i get the feeling its not. Care to elaborate? You rustled me.

>>733121925
Very VERY few jobs actually have in boxes and out boxes like that. It's more symbolic than anything -- it allows you to easily visualize the fact that there's "work to be done" and "work done"

There are close corollaries, though. Book keepers have to enter receipts into software like quickbooks, so the "in box" could be receipts. Some HR personnel their whole job is to respond to employee complaints, so the "in box" could be a list of complaints. For software developers who use Agile development they are given features as piece meal solutions to implement, so the "in box" would be a new feature to implement.

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>>733123174
I dunno dude. Politics is often about emotions and value sets as much as facts, and certain ideas appeal to certain kinds of people. If the proponents of a given ideology are contemptible to you, maybe that's not the ideology for you.

>>733123553
I'm not the acting agent now though. It's not like voting actually does anything for me except occasionally shift the corporate tax rate a couple percentages one way or the other, so fuck it. Let's have a dictator who'll actually address the issues facing the country from a nationalistic (or even national-socialistic) perspective.

I'm not a fan of universal franchise democracy even in the best of situations, and right now is far from that.

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>>733123174
>two party system

People need to take a side, and sides come in 2's. We're not capable of embracing alternatives to two prevailing political ideologies. This is the way it's going to be. You can glom onto fucking libertarianism or tea party or whatever, but without the votes, it's just hipster nonsense.

Ok dummies. Stop and think. The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 2000 miles long. 1255 miles of that is the Rio Grande. The river is the marker for 1255 miles of the border. It's only 800 miles in a straight line, but there are drastic natural twists and turns that add about 455 to the actual length of the river. You can not build a wall in the middle of the river. You can't build it on our side, because all the American land owners, many of them farmers and ranchers, would lose access to the river. You can't build it on their side, because they would have the same issue and you would need their permission, which we don't have.
Now let's say that the U.S. government was going to just take the land from the U.S. land owners using Imminent Domain laws. Would we build a wall with thousands of twists and turns? No? So we build a straight wall and forfeit thousands and thousands of acres of land to facilitate the straight line? Or do we spend billions and billions of extra dollars building a wall that is a series of bends and curves?
It doesn't matter how much money you have folks. You can't build this wall. It's not physically possible. And we haven't even addressed the canyons yet.
You fucking Republican morons. You stupid pathetic fucking morons.
What's next? A foot bridge to the fucking moon? You stupid fucking morons.

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>>733124136
>large engineering works are impossible to build
>you can't incorporate natural obstacles like ravines, cliffs, and mountains into a fortification
>eminent domain isn't an unquestionable right of the federal government
>you can't build a wall along a river
I know it's copypasta but fuck, someone actually wrote this and thought they were making cogent points.

>>733122452
>Most things other than fascism are shit though
oooo edgy as fuck

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>>733124136
I voted for Trump and I think the wall is a dumb idea even though there are over 20 countries with border walls. They could however use automated drones to scan and report activity as well as subsidize civilians currently patrolling the border territory in the US.

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>>733124607
Thanks, I consider it a bonus that stating my favorite ideology out loud triggers a good chunk of the population.

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>>733123185
So the left inadequacies justify the right voting for trump? Everyone made this bed. This is not a party issue. Consider the major cause of this problem (IMO): money in politics. So much of this problem stems from corporate money being incorporated into our elections. It's not because of "(democrat's) failures." Its because of a much bigger systemic problem. When we start pointing fingers at millions of people (that happen to fall into a party, or group, that's designated for us) you begin to miss the smaller groups of people truly controlling the legislation. Screw partisan thinking. stuffs akin to propaganda.

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>>733124867
>So the left inadequacies justify the right voting for trump?

No, the left's insistence on instituting policy that would destroy the US, justified voting for Trump. THAT'S what got me on the Trump train.

"Open borders," fuck that. Handouts, fuck that. Obamacare, fuck that. Muslims, fuck that.

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>>733123830
I agree political parties are a natural existence due to us having different opinions. But i was referencing someone who said "Ya know what drove me fully to the right where I am now? Listening to smug, elitist, self-righteous lefties." That comment has as much substance as "screw the other party [place insult here]."

In reference to your other comment: you only stop being the acting agent when you stop considering yourself to be one. I'd love to be lazy but I fucking love trees so now i'm going to climate protests and calling senators. Might not be much but at least it's something and eventually action does become change. With enough push we would stop these environmental crises. There might be too many problems to handle so in my opinion, if you care, pick one, and do something about it. A little goes a long way. I don't even spend that much time being a political activist. A few hours every other weekend isn't that tough and at least it puts my mind at rest every now and then.

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>>733125930
You know whats weird about Muslim fear? Between 2004-2007 we killed a million civilians in the Iraq war. War and terrorism is scary, most Muslim refugees are women and children fleeing from war. Every Muslim I've ever met was super chill. A few bad statistics don't make me scared of all Americans. Just an opinion. We probably have a difference of opinion.

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>>733126714
I mean, if you're mostly happy with the way things are going and you only have a few gripes, or one of the factions of the uniparty that runs our country basically aligns with you, writing to your congressman is kind of a good idea. It's not a lot but it's still something. But, like, I'm totally out in the cold. I don't agree with the way things are going at all, I don't like the trajectory of the country, and neither the Democrats nor the Republicans catch my interest because they're either openly against my interests or willing to go along to get along and never actually serve me and mine.

If you can point me to the white nationalists in government, the state socialists, the third positionists, even to the fucking civic nationalists, then I'll happily put my weight behind theirs. But there are none, and so I say burn it. None of them are willing to look out for their own country and its people, so they shouldn't be in power.

>>733127607

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N06ImNoXss4

>>733128021
I'm not happy with the way things are going. But you can never change it all. You pick your battles, and environment is one on a tilt.

The second half of your comment is a whole other conversation involving deeply rooted ideologies. I don't know if i have time for that... Why would a nationalist use so much anime? You should know japans history better than most. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sorry, i don't mean to be complacent. I'm just trying to end the conversation on a lighter note. Or fuck it, I'll make time if you want to indulge. White nationalists? Do you want to talk about race... I'll listen.

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>>733129132
Nah, I know you're tired and I don't mean to keep you up.

I'm just kinda blackpilled and venting. The right is making a resurgence and I'm happy for it, but I worry it's not the right kind of right, that it's not going quickly enough, that we might not be able to fix the degeneracy and demographic replacement that's wracked the West- and I know it can't be changed by voting alone. I don't want my country to be a capitalistic hellhole any more than I want it to be a communistic hellhole. The American people deserve better than that.

Have a good night, anon.

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>>733129819
You too b/rother. Good talkin.

>>733114184

this is how autist spend their time.

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>>733127607
>most Muslim refugees are women and children fleeing from war

That'd be a definite no.

I'm ok with secular Muslims except for the fact that they were born into an ideology formed by a ped0phile who called for punishment & death to women, gays, and non-believers. Even "moderate Muslims" believe gays should be punished.

>>733114184
Neither a libtard or trumptard, considering he's a NY Republican, aka Democrat.
Fuck both the left and the right - two different animals, same pile of shit from both of you.

>>733121925
So, let's say you go to Fastenall, Hub, or White Cap to pick up some hardware. You have a person who creates and verifies contracts with the companies that produce stuff in factories in order to get product in for you to buy. They need to have this paperwork on file to have proof of the quantities they ordered and the prices they agreed to pay because often the other company will ship more or less than agreed and try to charge a different price than agreed and you need to be able to prove that you didn't agree to be ripped off.

Once the material arrives you have a person whom job it is to verify that the correct product was actually sent and file paperwork that verifies what physically is present in case the other company later claims that they sent more than they actually sent.

You then buy the product and get a receipt. The store also needs to file a signed copy on their end so that they can prove that you actually picked up the item in case you later claim that you were charged for product that you never received

All of this paperwork needs to be filed and stores for around 5 years, and this is just the bare minimum. You can have additional paperwork between employees to verify that they are doing their jobs appropriately such as creating paperwork that must be signed and filed if you put something on or take something off a shelf. Once you get to the actual corporate offices, you'll have people going through papers to do data entry, negotiate contracts, etc.

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>>733132039

>trump a democrat

You couldn't be any stupider.

Clearly, what we need is an American holocaust to get rid of all liberals. Seriously, we need to fire up the ovens and kill about 100 million Americans to cure liberalism.

>>733132471
Tell me without using the word "literally".

What's the difference between a democrat and a republican.

>>733132707
You realize it was liberals who prosecuted both world wars, right? We dropped nukes on civilians in Japan and napalm on Dresden. You want to start a war with us?!

Your funeral.

>>733132812
Dems are idiot mental retards that deserve to die.
Republicans are upstanding pillars of their community, the apostles of society.

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>>733131602
Fuck why'd i come back. I should've said "Syrian" refugees. That's a reference from Keith Ellison/Politifact. I gotta go write a report. Feel free to dispute my reference. You know i don't even really prioritize border issues much. whatever makes people feel safe i guess. All I want is money/corporate influence out of politics, clean air, and clean water. closing 4chan now. goodnight everybody!

>>733132955
I'm sorry. I got that wrong.
I meant to write, "idiot, genetically deficient mental retards who deserve to die".
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

>>733133104
That's nothing barely ad hominens, common dude get something substancial, there have to be a defining characteristic that's measurable.

>>733131602
>Even "moderate Muslims" believe gays should be punished.
The difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim:
A radical Muslim wants to cut your head off. A moderate Muslim wants a radical Muslim to cut your head off.

>>733133281
Just look at Hillary and tell me their retardation is not measurable.

>>733133510
Hillary it's a neocon in practice, she ain't any different than any other lobby whore in congress.

>>733114184
Kek. I'd go toe to toe with you any day of the week fucktard. Conservatism is the sign of a diseased mind that overlooks reality in favor of weird bias. That's why all the factchecking organizations keep getting accused of "liberal bias."

>>733114184

Trumps a moron, just like you :)

>>733133281
The difference is:
A Democrat will propose legislation next week that a Communist is demanding today, and a Republican will accede to it next month.
Democrats pretend to care about women, blacks, and abortion; Republicans pretend to care about Christians, guns, and small government.

>>733133843
Republicans pretend to care about women blacks and abortion too.

An there's pro gun democrats, christian and libertarians also.

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>>733114184

Nazi's are restricted to /pol