Republicans are killing US net neutrality GG Murica you voted

>>733039508
Actually, killing net neutrality gives internet freedom. You wouldn't know that socialist scumshit

>>733039631
freedom for literal monopolies to to exploit you in more ways

>>733039631
Ok, I'll bite. How does spying on the people and selling them shit they don't want and targeting them for other things like psychological mapping contribute to "freedom?"

>i'm genuinely asking

>>733039508
Cheeto didn't win the majority vote.

>>733039849

ISPs could sell your data no matter what. NN just added a layer of 'hey we're obligated to tell you we're selling your shit now click here to agree and use our service'.

>>733039508
>>733039870
>>733039631
So, when someone applies for a government job (police, security, etc) you have to pass a criminal background check and a psych eval in many cases.

Why isn't this required for presidency? Both Drumf and Shillary would have failed by light years and we would have been looking at a legitimate election year. Can we send in for this to be a requirement of all future candidates?

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>>733040051
Technically, it was illegal as it was classified as personal information. It was under the same rulings as telephones. You can't tap a phone without a warrant and none of it could be used in court. This is why pedophiles are phished by baiters in order to get proof, then a warrant for an arrest. Now, they don't need any warrant. We are now letting them into our homes and they can claim "He browsed porn, therefore he is a misogynist that could lead into serial killer actions. We must arrest him." Literally, anything can be misconstrued now.

>>733040068
Because the tests would be politically biased by whatever party is currently running the show at that time and therefore could ensure that their party consistently wins every election regardless of what the people want. How do people continuously miss that shit?

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>>733039508
You morons don't even understand what the real underlying issues are. 'Net neutrality' is a fucking giveaway to fucking Google, Facebook and Amazon.

The real issue is opening up competition in the local loop/last mile/wireless.

Jesus you people are ignorant.

>>733040221
How would a psych test be biased? It is done for FBI and CIA operatives. You are either nucking futs, or you are qualified.

>>733040331
Psychology itself is a heavily biased science and psychologists know this, it's basically career suicide.

Sad how much of a target 4chan is for shills the last several months

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>>733040260
>opening up competition in the local loop/last mile/wireless
>competition
>implying anyone just has 100.5 billion dollars lying around to invest in a competing business
>Jesus you people are ignorant

>>733040529
So, again, why is it required for law enforcement, but not the president? If it is career suicide, why is it required for people who make 40k - 80k a year and have simple clubs and tasers at their hips? Why would it NOT be required for someone with nuke codes?

See what I mean now? I mean, everyone knew this fuck up was a fuck up. But he still bought his way into office. If we could have a psych test set up that green-lights candidates, he would never have gotten past the application process.

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>>733040557
Verizon CAPEX is about $20B per year. AT&T a bit more. Comcast about $10B. Could spend a lot more but they have government granted monopolies/duopolies and hence as regulated as fuck.

Apple has a quarter trillion dollars growing mold. Google, MSFT, all the techs sitting on mountains of money with nowhere to invest it.

$100B is chicken feed at this scale.

Idiot.

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>>733040068
Because it violates the Constitution you mung.

>>733039631
>Actually, killing net neutrality gives internet freedom. You wouldn't know that socialist scumshit

this, the market regulates itself better than the gov't ever could. "Net Neutrality" is just a Marxist buzzword for "Obama and Hillary control all your data".

>>733040676
You are comparing apples to oranges, and you took what I said and twisted it to your own little motive. Just stfu kid and listen cause i'm about to write you a fucking paragraph.
Why are law enforcement required to pass a psych evaluation? Well its simple really they have to deal with stressors that normal jobs don't really see, such as acts of violence or aggression toward them or others. The psychologist isn't really looking for any abnormalities in the fact of what you would consider sociopathic or any form of mental retardation, which is what you're implying about President Trump and Mrs. Clinton, They're looking for a tendency to act aggressively to others when stressed. This is purely to save face when a officer blows away a nigger trying to stab him. The every politician involved with a police department or government agency wants no scandal or any bad media about rogue cops, or race related shootings. Its plan and simple to save face, a political tactic. It would be career suicide for many politicians because psychology is biased, its based on theories that aren't necessarily fact, but widely believed to be true by many learned doctors.

>>733041452
It also violates basic human rights, who is to say whose a dunce and who isn't?

>>733039508
Freedom is an illusion anyway.

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>>733040676
The Constitution defines the minimum qualifications to be elected President. The Founding Fathers did not see fit to put in a Psych Evaluation in Article 2.

You are welcome to Champion the Psych Evaluation amendment. Let us know how that works out for you.

>>733042046
>>733041452
idgaf about the "hurr durr violates the constitution" argument - some areas of that document are in serious need of an overhaul. I think the fact that we consider something written over 200 years ago as biblically sacrosanct and meant to be preserved down to the letter no matter how much society and the world changes is patently retarded.

However, I do agree with the biased argument. As someone working in the mental health field, psychological evaluations are more or less subjective. They're not even that accurate. If someone is smart enough, they could easily pass a psych eval despite being malicious, narcissistic, or otherwise pathological/sociopathic in their thinking.

>>733039508
>I think the fact that we consider something written over 200 years ago as biblically sacrosanct and meant to be preserved down to the letter no matter how much society and the world changes is patently retarded.

It's funny that you use the phrase biblically sacrosanct on a document that's 200 years old when the bible is almost 2000 years old.

Also the constitution van be changed and appended. You just need to have a 2/3 majority. It's called democracy, friend.

>>733044213
>It's funny that you use the phrase biblically sacrosanct on a document that's 200 years old when the bible is almost 2000 years old.

That was exactly the point. Are you retarded.

>Also the constitution van be changed and appended. You just need to have a 2/3 majority. It's called democracy, friend.

I'm aware of that - that's what amendments are. We need more of them. I'm speaking ill about the type of people who regard the constitution as perfect and unchangeable. Again, are you retarded?

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>>733043702
Some people think the Constitution is rather important, useful and ought to be followed.

I'm guessing they put a bit more thought into things than you seem to.

>>733044674
>Some people think the Constitution is rather important, useful and ought to be followed.

Some of it, yes. All of it as it was originally written? Fuck off.

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>>733044046
Palin is MILFy.

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>>733044754
Tell which parts to jettison oh wise anon?

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Everyone get a good look at this yet?
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1782087483
Well its time

>>733044616
So you want to change the constitution, yet are the minority. Learn to live with the fact that it's not supposed to change for you.

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>>733044674
The Constitution was made to be changed. Something in-breds failed to notice. Their beloved 2nd amendment was just that, an amendment (change) to the Constitution.

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>>733044868
palin is a fucking mong breeder

>>733044981
>Everyone who does not agree with me is retarded/imbred.
Grow up. For your own sake.

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>>733044981
le change back to the way it was meant to be

>>733045059
insults is all they have

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>>733045120
>picrelated

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>>733045059
what exactly did I say that was incorrect?

>>733045207
Hurr whats more offensive to your liberal team, trump or the folder of pictures you have..

>>733039508
As long as I can say OP is a faggot, I'm fine.

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>>733045255
that makes no sense.

>>733039631
You are the cancer killing /b/

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>>733045314
>rubs the nipples
YES

>>733039508
That's not what the alternative facts say. What do real facts have to do with reality?

>>733041616
I hope you enjoy your future comcast internet packages! Be sure to add netflix access for the upcharge.
Oh, you're a gamer? Well better get the gamer package with access to up to 50 hours of online gaming per month!
*connection will be throttled to all online game servers after the 50 hours is depleted.
Wooo, yea I'm so happy net neutrality is dead!

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>>733045773
The D isn't missing, it's just very tiny.

>>733041616
Alternative facts at work.

>>733040529
t. L. Ron Hubbard

>>733045677
G. W. Bush owes him a thank you. After less than a decade of being on the top of the list, G. W. Bush will no longer go down as the worst president in American history. He should send Trump a handwritten letter with the thank-you.

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>>733042404
>Founding Fathers did not see fit to put in a Psych Evaluation in Article 2
Psychology wasn't really well known or talked about in English speaking circles until the late 1800's.

>>733046097
IMAGE SAVED! Thanks /b/ro.

>>733045353
I blame /pol/ for pulling in the mouth breathers and nut jobs.

>>733046209
Get a 2/3 majority or stop whining.

>>733046465
>people I don't agree with are nutjobs/mouthbreathers. I however feel no need to adress any points.
Grow up. For your own sake.

>>733046662
How about you get your facts straight on history or stop posting. I when I say facts, I mean facts, not 'alternative facts,' AJ.

>>733046736
Isn't there a trapfag or a trumpf circle jerk thread on /pol/ for you to fap to? It's sad when /pol/ is the main containment board and /b/ is tired of yall. SAD.

It's not that complicated guys.

Without net neutrality, internet service providers could set up fast lanes for those who can afford it and slow lanes for everyone else. So the big winners are those who have deep pockets and the losers are everyone else. http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=74&jumival=18946

It's fucking mind boggling to me how anyone on 4chan thinks that Net Neutrality is a bad thing. Without it, do you think ISP would allow as much access to 4chan? A dying website known for pedophillia, racism, and hacker groups? FUCK NO. They'd rather direct more traffic towards normie sites like Facebook and the inoffensive parts of YouTube. Net Neutrality is one of the only reasons that 4chan is still accessible and people here are trying to dismantle it? WTF is wrong with you! Seriously! WTF REEEEEEEEEE!

>>733047465
There are people on here that vote republican and you have to ask yourself this?

Trump's a traitor and traitors should be hanged. Just saying.

>>733039631
>being this much of a blithering retard
Yes anon I also like arguing for things that are actively detrimential to me because it spites someone else
You don't even know what it's about, you just heard some other retard spew MORE FREEDOM LESS GUBMENT and you're on board like the asslicking lapdog that you are

>>733047258
> the winners are those who have deep pockets and the losers are everyone else

Have you just arrived to the big city?

>>733048226
Of course the consequences of repealing net neutrality are obvious. I am simply responding to the shills making the argument that repealing net neutrality is about unleashing innovation and freedom and all the other buzz words.

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>>733047465
As shocking as it may seem to you, there are actually people in this world who think they should be able spend their own money the way they want to - crazy, isn't it?

Those fucking free markets never work.

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at this point the debate's over.

right wing filth has engaged in mass treason, and must be stopped at all costs.

don't talk to them (they're science-denying anti-intellectuals). destroy them.

>>733048440
Capitalism works for many things. It doesn't work for net neutrality nor for health care.

>>733048567
Trumpf shills should be hanged along side their master. Less Trumfags, less white trash on welfare we have to worry about.

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>>733048331
It is about unleashing CAPEX you mung.

Who wants to invest in a regulated, mandated rate-of-return industry. Yeah, hardly anyone.

Meanwhile, trillions of dollars are held overseas - held captive by comically outdated tax laws - by US corporations who literally have no way to invest the money.

But I'm sure you're right and more regulation will promote innovation.

I'm tellin' ya brotha - free the last mile and your ass will follow.

>>733040208
Except I doubt watching porn is going to lead to anything unless it's CP you retard no one cares that you jerk it to men they only care about the illegal shit you look up and do on the internet.

Is net neutrality even under threat? I thought Trump was just handing authority over it to an other agency

>>733048815
Lame.

The telecom giants form a monopoly. They don't have to innovate shit, just sit back and extract rent. Most corporate profit doesn't go into r&d anyway. Most goes into stock buybacks so the execs get paid more. C'mon. This isn't CNBC. You aren't fooling anyone here.

>>733049019
Ajit Pai of the FCC just got a bill to the house by a 2-1 to end net neutrality. It's called the Restore Internet Freedom Act and yes, that is Orwellian as shit.

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>>733048729
Why does it not work for healthcare? It works fucking great for food, and that it a much greater human need.

Of course capitalism can work for healthcare. Look at the cost of boob jobs, LASIK, black market drugs, abortions. Go to Mexico and get a heart transplant on the free market and you'll save $200K.

But for the most part we don't have free market capitalistic health care in the US. It's the most heavily regulated market in the world. The AMA doctors and ABA lawyers unions along with the government FDA create massive shortages of healthcare product, ensuring their cushy jobs.

Free up the healthcare market and you'll see massive investment, innovation and lower costs.

>>733049142
Ssshh. don't reply to the braindead shills. No one can be that stupid.

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>>733049142
And who grants them the monopoly?

Idiot.

>>733049233
I'm doing him a favor by responding to him. He gates paid an extra nickel that way.

Most people won't care about this until they can't get their porn, Facebook or twitter like they use to be able to

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>>733049233
You make a powerful case.

Let's all shut the fuck up about trump. No fucker ever gave a fuck about politics before. They all dick road trump cause he was edgy as fuck bro, and barrack was black. Trump is the equivalent of a kardashian. He was so edgy and hxc during election season, dudes a fucking idiot. Get the fuck over it, dudes a douche. No fuck face says a loan of 1 million dollars is a small loan. No fuck face is shoved down our throats by the media all of 2016 and wins the election then claims it's all fake news. Dudes a baby back bitch.

>>733049259
Congress should step in and break up the monopolies or simply distribute Internet as a public utility. But this issue is different from net neutrality regulations.

>>733049216
When the bottom line is how much profit you make and not how many people you help or save, you end up creating death panels ran by corporations who just want to make money. You can't afford basic health coverage? I guess your kids will have to due with a splint instead of a cast. Dying from a disease you got from work? Can't help you since you had a pre-existing condition. As for the 'fact' that US health care is heavily regulated, true because held at bay companies that tell the government what to do. That's why millions weren't covered by Obamacare when it was still around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuYgxE1rjVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TJ2rRdV3G4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGRRmN5IBY&t=1s

>>733045059
>t. retard

I say the day Trumpf gets impeached should be the day all his supporters should kill themselves. If they had kids, they should make sure to kill them first just so their genes don't spread on. Don't want to taint the gen pool with that retardation.

>>733039631
You dont know shit

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>>733049371
Perhaps, and you are getting closer.

Are telecommunications/internet access a natural monopoly? Certainly things like sewers, water, most roads and bridges and probably natural gas and electricity (for now) are natural monopolies. You can't physically have 10 sewer companies competing for business, so it makes sense to establish a government or private monopoly and then regulate the fuck out of it to prevent abuse.

Phones and cable TV came under this umbrella too - 10 sets of telephone poles are cable conduits? Nonsense. But this is changing - wireless and and fiber are enabling a much different physical infrastructure, one that is hard to argue constitutes a natural monopoly.

But by all means let's continue with the Title 2 regulation framework of the Telecom Act from 1934. That is sure to stimulate innovation and investment.

>>733039508
democrats did this to themselves by false flagging so much, nobody takes them seriously when there's something that actually needs to be talked about.

Enjoy 8 more years of this!

>>733049855
You weren't pro trump 4 months ago? Fact so many dumb fucks took his ass so serious is the reason we're where we are. Dude was so fucking edgy, a life alert demographic mother fucker using twitter as if he were a teenage cheerleader during her sophomore year. Fuck Hillary and Benghazi. She almost killed the dude from the hangover... as if we didn't have bush's brother or Bernie to choose from. Yet here dip shit fuck we elected hasn't done a fucking thing but fuck shit up, yet people still think he's punk rock as fuck

>>733050130
HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH and until we have a real democracy with no deep state, we're gonna keep voting for whoever drains the swamp

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>>733049671
Go to sleep, you're drunk and non-responsive to the points I've made.

You want poor little Jimmy to have healthcare? Then make it easier for people to become healthcare providers, shield them from liability except in cases of gross incompetence or bad faith, accept patient waivers for those willing to accept experiment treatments, insist on price and outcome transparency. Guess who opposes all these things?

How do we save it?

>>733039508
"Net neutrality" is just a way for the government to let internet companies keep our speeds low and not give us new stuff. It has to go. Letting new competition come and allow us to pay for higher speeds will be better, only poor people will have a problem paying for internet and i dont care about them. Lol, why stay stuck in the past with this net neutrality obama shit?

>>733049970
If your dumb fuck ky packing ass thinks we will be alive within the next 8 years you definetly need to chickety check yo self. If trump were a black dude you would've lost your shit by now. Dude is a fucking idiot, imagine your grandpa using twitter as often as this fuck face. If you're not able to profile the dude as dumbest motherfucker alive based off his interviews, clearly you're what is wrong with the world

>>733041259

Socialist spotted, hows brazil going?

Canadian here. Oh the irony for you americunts

>>733050337
> being this dumb that you think the world will end in less than 8 years

>>733050274
Explain what "draining the swamp" means. The dude is a fucking faggot dumb fuck

>>733050337
>dumb
>won the support of millions and won the presidency, despite what polls said

pick one

>>733050130
No. Anyone with a fucking brain could see right through him during the fucking campaign. I was a Bernie supporter and I hated Shillery for what she did to him. Still voted against him because a literal retard shouldn't be president. His twitter rants and speeches he gave in the beginning were all that I needed to see how much of a retard he was. Shillery was forced on us and I'm still waiting on the lawsuit against hillery over the DNC scandal. Bernie would have ran him out of town.

>>733050457
How is he dumb? He is president and what are you?

>>733050451
You're the bitch made who thinks the dude is the 2nd cumming of Jesus. Dude is a fucking idiot

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>>733039508
Hello I'm Mike Mandell inventor of My Pillow!
I hope you get AIDS!

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>>733050480

I guess you can feel the "burn"

>>733050488
A person who's never referred to a million dollars as a small loan.

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>>733050319
Go away.

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>>733050479
>>implying there have never been dumb presidents before
>>implying false dichotomy
>>implying anon needs to learn to use the google

kysf

>>733050522
->fucking idiot
->is president
->whose the real idiot?

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>>733050337
You'll be OK little fella.

>>733050488
>How is he dumb? He inherited his position through wealth and manipulation of a corrupt system and what are you?
Ftfy

>>733050457
political dynasties married to CEOs of news companies and creating a 1984 scenario where they can murder people and get away with it without news even talking about it. Those people need to be in jail. After that happens, then I'll prioritize free healthcare and legalizing pot and free internet. But not living in a country where someone gets killed for leaking info on a political party rigging elections is more important. We live in basically an African warlord dynasty, except they're white and they wear suits and try to hide their crimes.

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>>733050358
Not following this thread too closely, eh skippy?

>>733050480
At least the bitch had a history in politics. Neither should've been the final two contestants, but dip shit fucks usually go What name they're fed

>>733050570
>whose the real idiot?
The retards who voted him in.

>>733050479
Is that so

>>733050607
Still how does that show him being dumb when he is a winner. Either way rather be a dumb winner than a smart loser, like all the other countries out there doing worse than america

>>733050319
You can kindly off yours3lf!
Ignorant droopy eyed wilderbeast!

>>733050658
Why are they retarded for voting him in? How has anything even changed, the world has not ended and we are all even safer than we were before with the wall and more troops. I see no difference besides feeling safer

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>>733048791

I didn't know black lives matter was on 4chan now, huh. Or are you just a butthurt nigger?

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>>733050607
So true. Most people who inherit a lot of money become President.

>>733040051
Whew, for a second there I thought you had a point to make, but really you just don't know how the law works.

>>733050616
Oh yeah, that's why a bunch of fuck faces in this country are forced to mine diamonds and aren't able to spout their political views over the Internet. Shut the fuck up poser

>>733049929
You can argue that at the least there should be a public option for the Internet. A public option means that a civil servant is responsible for your internet, not a giant corporation, and that the purpose of the public internet is to provide internet service, not make a profit. And there are examples of it working. http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/20/technology/innovation/chattanooga-internet/index.html

>>733050413
We're fucked too buddy

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>>733050697
>>733050658
>>733050607
>>733050565
>>733050561
>>733050522

ITT Trumpsters providing real arguments and cucks namecalling. saged and out!

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>>733050642
Bernie is one of the longest sitting senators and has had a long history in politics. He started out as a civil rights attorney, walked with MLK and even gotten arrested. The fact he didn't go down swinging and didn't come back after the elections to fuck her pisses me off.
>>733050552
Kek.

>>733041616
>the market regulates itself better than the gov't ever could
No, the market does whatever the fuck it can to make more money. Corporate success has little to do with consumer protections. This is precisely why we have government regulation.

>>733050561
Let's see you turn a million dollars into a billion.

I don't have any contact to trump supporters or republicans in general, but what I have seen and read in here is mindblowingly disturbing.

I don't know what happened to you guys over their or why you're so angry, but you need to stop being emotional and care for facts and reason again or else we're doomed.

Thanks
A scared European

>>733050824
Don't be a hypocrite

>>733050824
>t. butthurt trumpfag with no wall.

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>>733050899
>>733050927

>>733039508
Republicans are the reason we can't have nice things.

>>733050895
>European
>no contact with Trump supporters

there you go. News in America is a fucking mess, all they do is shit on the person that millions of us voted for. They do it because they're controlled by the same billionaires that try to rig every one of our elections, and a lot of your elections too. If you wanna know the truth, go talk to real Americans. Won't be able to reason, only knowing 1 side of the story.

>>733050886
>let's see you turn one dollar into a thousand
>let's see you turn one penny into ten dollars
It is much easier to turn a million into a billion, since you have to have money to make money in this backwards country.

>>733050776
>implying being a wageslave is any better
You drank the corporatism koolaid, son.

>>733050886
If I grew up in New York City and had a dad who already had a billion net, I can assure you I'd turn that small loan of 1 million to a billion. Stop dick riding trump, dude is a fucking idiot. Get the fuck over your mesiah, dude is bitchmade.

>>733051046
He has retort armor. He is invincible

>>733050958
Think about that

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>>733050895
The fact is america has been fucked over far to long by foreigners and it is time to take our country and our jobs back. What u see in the media is not true and trump is anti media, they want to shut him down but he is just doing right by america day after day. You europeangs would never understand because 1. You arent american.

>>733051020
>they're controlled by the same billionaires that try to rig every one of our elections
I can think of one billionaire who specifically did this and won the presidency.
>go talk to real Americans
Because the majority of us who did not vote for Trump are fake people, right?

>>733050958
Think about that>>733051040
Most definitely

>americans will literally justify anything to protect their orange god-king

Fuck you people are pathetic

>>733050726
Give it a year or two before you see the ramifications take hold. You see, policies take a while to to into effect. You'll be wondering why shit started going down hill.

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>>733051129
The majority of americans support trump because we got him in, if the majority didnt want him in then why is he in? Dumb

>>733051129
>Because the majority of us that didn't vote for Trump aren't real people
Nigger are you serious? Everyone go home. Threads over. They don't even listen to logic or anything remotely sound in reason. They listen only to reply without even trying to understand. Just go home everyone.

>>733050742
So when are you going to end yourself? Please stream it. I wanna watch you twitch around for a bit as the darkness takes you. And by darkness, I don't mean your boyfriend.

>>733051085
He's the type of fuck shit who would be dick riding the fidget spinner trend. Name another 75 year old with a twitter account. Dude deserves to have his head split wide like he was osama. Dudes a fucking spoiled baby back bitch. If the fuck face was a black dude majority of you bitch mades would be on that hell nah shit

>>733050856
>real arguments
Really? Where?

>>733051339
That tthe media tries to maks trump look dumb because he is anti media and anti corporation?

>>733039631
You're a fucking idiot. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>733051129
Is this guy fucking real? Being this fucking stupid should be a felony.

>>733051040
You're on your mom and dads computer, son

>>733051330
Kyle, is that you?

Ad hominem, false dichotomy, false ultimatum, straw man fallacies.. trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. And you libcucks wonder why you can't make anything of your efforts. This is our element. The more you try to adapt the more you just become exactly like us. Let the trolls feast.

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>>733051139
Mfw expecting any critical thinking from libs

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>>733050759
Net neutrality has nothing to do with the 'privacy regulation' you are referencing.

In fact, this critical 'privacy regulation' had never been in effect. In 8 years Obama did not think it was important. Until 6 months ago. After Trump won.

The FCC has no lawful congressional-mandated authority to regulate such matters. But the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) does, so some people think the FTC should, you know, do its job.

I hate to say it, but you give the impression that you've never listened to the arguments of those with who you disagree. Surely that is a path to ignorance.

>>733051125
Oh my god you FUCKING idiots are the reason he won

>>733051339
You wouldn't see it if we nailed it to your fucking forehead champ

>>733051491
REEEEEEEUSSIAEEEEEEEEERUSSIADIDITREEEEEEEEEEPISSGATETAXRETURNSREEEE

>>733051402
Respect the South Park reference, just clearly you weren't raised during the wwf attitude era. You wouldn't be a condescending white power fuck using his parents computer. Your majority white student high school was clearly your difference maker growing up

>>733039508
Net neutrality is racism.

>>733051233
>hillery won the majority vote
>tumpf won the electoral college
It's true what they say. Trumpfags really aren't the brightest of people. In the future, Trump and trumpeters will be synonymous with retardation, even more so than GWB.

>>733051424
Do realize that shit goes both ways. I don't need the right or left bitch shit to realize trump is a fucking retard

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>>733051466
Pro-tip: don't debase your beliefs with such an inane post. Instead, put some thought into crafting a rapier riposte.

Of course we're on /b, so here is chick who looks like Chloe M getting fucked in the ass.

>>733051601
>>733051605
If you dont like the leader of our amazing free country then you can go back to 3rd world europe or asia where you came from, who knows where but it is defiantly worse than USA because you are here now

>>733039508

There is no legitimate reason to end net neutrality.

On the off chance that anyone who supports this move isn't trolling, you are really only supporting a move that is totally fucking you in the ass just because it's being done by a politician you happen to like.

>>733051125
Most of you fucks are foreigners or recently descended from foreigners, though.

>>733051722
Im not a foreigner, im pure blond blue eyed white, and you are? Muslim or chinese i bet? Go back to europe

>>733051399
Nope, bought and payed for by my earnings. Nice projection, though. Have fun in class today or has summer started?

>>733051233
>>733051601

Nice samefagging. Not sure how this works are you?

>>733051702
Shit cause both those countries are on their 1942 shit.

>>733051702
>i don't like what they're saying about me
>better try to shut them down by calling them unamerican
And here I thought my fellow Americans would like me demonstrating the first amendment. I guess we can see who really is the unpatriotic one here.

>>733051808
>samefagging
wat?

>>733051902
First amendment is fine as long as it isnt treason like what you are saying about the majority and our chosen leader

>>733051379
>antimedia
Only when they report about his retadration
>anti corporation
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- oh wait HE'S SERIOUS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>733051780
Oh fuck? Clearly. Your grammar is that of an English professor. You've clearly "payed" your dues, though.. and yeah I called trump a fag. I'm definetly a semester away from my doctorate. Most definitely not a dude unable to receive financial aid due to his criminal record. Get the fuck out of here you bitch made dumb fuck, quit sucking Mommy's tittie, fucking fidget spinner looking ass

>>733051566
I didn't watch wrestling growing up. Never really appealed to me. I was more of a cartoon/Documentary kid back in the 90's.

>>733039631
>Would you like to upgrade to our Premium package, which includes Wikipedia, Google Maps and 5 GB of YouTube?
This is the future you gleefully chose.

>>733051961
>leaked classified intel on isis
>postponed an attack on isis because turkey asked him to which caused high value targets to slip away with probable turkish connections
>been recieving millions from russia
>russia my now be suspected more than ever over hacking elections and dnc and them leaking intel to trumpf
Yeah no. The fat fucks a traitor and should be hanged.

>>733052052
>he made a spelling mistake!1!!1
>i automatically win this internet arguement!
Can't tell if autistic or severely autistic.

>>733052090
Of course you were you closet hipster

>>733052471
You at some point owned tripp pants didn't you

>>733052533
Never. Those things are just as autistic as you are.

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>>733050778
Ah, municipal utilities you mean. As a conservative, I'm all for this if that is what the community wants and they abide by the Constitution - states and local rights and all.

Fine if a state or municipality does it. But not if the Feds do it. You comprende kimosabe?

America votes and makes corporations rich.
Canada votes for compelled speech, can now be jailed for not calling someone "xir".
Germany votes and hide the mass rape in their country.
Britain votes and leaves the EU.
Australia votes and creates a massive data retention center.
Austria votes and Facebook now held liable for 'hate speech'...not just hate speech, but 'things the current government disagrees with.'
France votes and the new prime wants to basically burn all bridges with UK.

Do any of you really believe that you are superior. You're all fucked.

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>>733051928
That's what I thought.

Lurk more shill.

>>733052668
What does China, Russia and Australia do?

Wait, I have been gone since 2010... When did /pol/ take over /b/ with its mental illness and blind world view? I was thinking that /b/ was merely for porn.

>>733052704
Wat as in those post weren't nothing a like.

>>733052612
Ah fuck you got me.

>>733052732
Russia continually votes for a dictator, who has a stranglehold on the election system.
China suppresses data coming in through the internet, to paint a false picture, and propagandize news.
Australia has fucking 4 foot long spiders.

>>733039508
>Republicans are killing US net neutrality

fake and gay.

Net Neutrality means that a faggot using internet for mail and whatsapp only, has the same right of those faggots using every fucking high-traffic service (youtube netflix pornvids torrents etc)

the real net neutrality should bill on megabytes units, not on monthly fees. Then people who use Netflix and shit - that is, people who congest the network - should be taxed more.

The ''net neutrality'' problem appeared when lots of faggots started congesting a single node because Muh Netflix.

Netflix sells its shit assuming that faggots already have unlimited bandwidth - actually giving bad headaches to ISPs (who in turn sold massive Hurr Durr Hurrdurreds of Megabits assuming that only a small percentage of clients would actually try to hit the maximum bandwidth limits).

*note - change ''Netflix'' to whatever firm name making money out faggots who congest the network

tldr, net neutrality is actually about net faggotry.

>>733052668
I know for a fact the Canada one is not true at all. There is no such thing.

>>733039508
we're going to have our congress vote on it actually, so no we haven't voted for that at all. Not to mentions being voted into congress requires a separate vote to take place, which i know none of us fucks voted on because a very small minority of americans do. So NO 'we' did not vote on the outcome. Fuck off you dumbass and research how the government works before commenting.

>>733052871
Google "Bill C-16" and examine the actual bill. Not the SocJus news articles all desperately trying to reassure it will be okay.

>>733052863
no, net neutrality means that on a search engine, when you look up 'dailymotion' your first ten results aren't a paid promotion by youtube to google. Ad slots on search engines are legal but currently we have laws against google as a search engine denying american citizens access to certain sites that follow the law. So it's more about the availability of sites on the search engine's end, not on the users end.

>>733039631
please expound upon this point.

>>733053043

sounds like you think Google results are people's rights instead of Alphabet's assets.

then you should just use some different search service.

>>733053005
I don't see a problem with it. You're still free to say what you want. You just can't refuse to hire a trans person or be violent towards someone based on their "gender identity". There is no compelled speech and as much as I don't like trans people, I don't care that this passed

>>733053043
DuckDuckGo all the way.

>>733050301
Different guy, how can someone like you be so inept and naive?

>>733051517
So far I've read through entire thread and every argument against NN that you've made was dependant on corporations willing to cut their profits severely for good of their consumers. Which never happend before...

>>733052863
My ISP doesn't cap the bandwidth based on amount of megabytes downloaded (unlike my cellphone does).

No instead they sell unlimited download and upload data caps at a set speed (in my case 60 mbps down/15 mbps up for about $49.

Paying for data on an ISP in amount you can download is retarded.

>>733048729
>free market works
>except lets put communication and health into the hands of a system that fails over and over just to make sure it fails, those things aren't too important


the mental gymnastics this must take and a 'moderate' are a spectacle to see.

>>733039631
You dumb fuck

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>>733054583
How is he wrong? I'm sure your handlers gave you some great talking points.


we'll wait.

>>733054278
Actually this is exactly what the ISPs want to do and will probably do with yours. Your service might not be completed affected (assuming you're in U.S.) They'd likely just raise the price by about $15, add a 1TB or 2TB cap and then charge per each 100gb over the limit by and extra $10. They want people to buy the amount beforehand (like cellphones) for people who want cheap internet. Those people will likely only use it for Twitter Instagram Snapchat and Facebook so it'll seem like a really good deal to them. The ISPs will make a lot of profit and will try to spread this "deal" as far as they can.

So what ever happened to like cyber attacks and protests and stuff? As cringe-y as it is to mention them, what are the chances of Anonymous doing something? Didn't they "attack" a bunch of websites back during 2012 and the SOPA thing? And wasn't there that young tech prodigy kid who an-hero'd himself after big corporations tried to sue him into on for getting support for net neutrality? I feel like this time around it's over because no one really cares and the only "news" there is, is about Trump and Russia.

>>733054833
No. And you're thinking of Aarno Schwartz that was entirely unrelated.

You're a dumb faggot.

>>733054714

I have a cellphone plan for 30 Gb/mo, use it on a 4G modem/hotspot at home.
We have 2 computers, 2 cellphones and a tablet, and yet never hit the limit.

This happens because noone here ever watches youtube or any traffic-intensive service.
Yet we use a lot of shit (fb, twitter, whatsapp, blogging, rss feeds and so on).

I agree that the problem is all about hi-res video.

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I'm one anon who actually voted for this cunt just to keep the other cunt out of office. Error? Maybe but at least that other cunt isn't in office? Maybe this one won't be for much longer. Pres. Pence?

>>733039631
You have ZERO idea what you are talking about. Killing net neutrality gives ALL the power to the ISPs to screw us over however they want. This is going to devestate smaller online media businesses who can't afford to pay into the extortion racket to keep ISPs from throttling them.

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>>733039508


I just sit back and smile.

I laugh as I watch him completely sell out this country and take away liberty after liberty with no resistance.

I rejoice in watching the fuhrers loyal dog voters sit obediently waiting for their cheeto master to drop his pants, spread his rusty orange ass cheeks and squeeze out a goopy bowl of shit for them to happily gobble up.

They, of course, eat it all up and beg for the hot stinky cum desert from their Russian daddies.

They fall asleep in their own filth and mutter "Make America great again" as they drift into a peaceful slubmer.

>>733040051
Net neutrality has NOTHING to do with ISPs selling information it's a totally different issue. NN means that Comcast can't slow Netflix to a crawl to try and force its customers to use its own shitty overpriced on demand service, and similar such fuckery.

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The democrats are destroying and dividing the US. Not the Republicans. Trump Loves America and Freedom.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-RHH0DFunyV4Mn570jm-tA

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I just sit back and smile.

I laugh as I watch him completely sell out this country and take away liberty after liberty with no resistance.

I rejoice in watching the fuhrers loyal dog voters sit obediently waiting for their cheeto master to drop his pants, spread his rusty orange ass cheeks and squeeze out a goopy bowl of shit for them to happily gobble up.

They, of course, eat it all up and beg for the hot stinky cum desert from their Russian daddies.

They fall asleep in their own filth and mutter "Make America great again" as they drift into a peaceful slumber.

>>733040260
The internet doesn't work without Net neutrality. It was a founding principle. Once ISPs realized they could use their Monopoly powers to squeeze extra cash from both ends we had to pass laws to preserve what already existed. So no it wasn't a give away to google and Facebook you ignorant fuck.

feels good not be american

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Americunts got owned so bad. Whole world is laughing.

>>733039508

Why does Trump always make that hand symbol? Is that how he gives Putin a handjob?

>>733041259
You forget the millions Companies like Comcast, Verizon, and ATT have spent rigging the states laws to prevent competitors from gaining a foothold. Why do you think Google gave up on fiber? It was costing them a fortune to "unbribe" municipalities so they could get basic things like utility pole access. This is still a separate issue from NN. The internet cannot work without it.

>>733041616
The market can't function in a monopoly which exist in 90% of the US broadband market.

>>733056326
>him
>implying it was Trump who did it
It's like you're retarded and don't know who is making these calls. Do you even read anything about topics you're on your soap box about, or just spout the most recent drivel by your favorite news source?

>>733041616
>the market regulates itself better than the gov't ever could.
just how does that work?

oh, you have no idea? Just recycling Republican buzz words, that are code for "those who are rich get what they want and those who are poor can just fuck off"

yeah thought so.

give one convincing mechanism by which the market regulates anything to the advantage of those who need it, rather than those who can pay for it.

>>733049216
Us health care is fucked up for all sorts of reasons - lack of freemarket is not one of them.

every civilised country int eh world has better health care than the US, cheaper and universal, and run by a government organised and tax paid for service. the USA has the most costly service, that covers a pitful percentage of its citizens.

it isn't more regulation that is needed, it is simple effective provision by government with low cost - the expensive health insurance and private profiteering guys can still try to compete, but go broke trying.

>>733050301
just how is any of that going to give little jimmy who has no money the treatment he needs?

answer - it isn't.

>>733050675
well, since you are a dumb loser how could we expect you to understand.

>>733039631
You know, just because you want it to be true so you can keep supporting the same person and pretending they do no wrong, doesn't mean it is true.

>>733049364
>I can also turn $1 million into $10 billion it's ez x(

I know a bunch of y'all are kids, but we had the internet before Obama signed NN. It won't change anything if anything it will give smaller hosting companies a better chance to compete with the bigger ones.

>>733050869
he ran out of money from the Koch Bros once he had done his work for them. he fucked up her primary campaign, disaffected enough Bernie Bros to never vote Hillary and made her look bad. he even made the DNC look bad by infuriating them enough to bitch about him in their emails - by not doing his paperwork, not helping other Democrats and criticizing the party he was supposed to represent and wanted to support him.

had he won the primary you can bet all that Koch money would have been thrown into discrediting him so a Republican would trounce him.

he was a stalkig horse, a tool of Karl Rove and the Koch's to stop Hillary, who they feared. he would have been easy meat in the elections. As it was he lost to Her by 3 million votes from a mostly democrat only electorate (he got a lot of votes from Republicans in open primaries). He would have lost by even more if Trump ad been against him - commie rape fantasist - easy meat.

>>733050886
actually he got almost a billion in tax breaks and gifts from NYC, and was loaned over a billion interest free for his first big project on which he got to keep all the profit, so, that would be pretty easy I think...

>>733051279
So much for that liberal tolerance, eh?

>>733051687
lol tone it down Oscar Wilde

>>733050886
lets see you run three casinos into bankruptcy and walk away with over a billion ana half while all your creditors get stiffed, and declare a billion loss against future tax, at the same time as all your competitor casinos are making 40% profit a year... that is real business genius at work.

>>733039508
Yknow i was passionate about this until i read it from all sides and actually figured out what i was talking about with net neutrality..

Its... Not so black and white. I invite you to do some research on it. Overturning it wouldnt be such a bad thing.

>>733051129
he's right you know

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>>733052106
>comcast/verizon pull this shit
>whoops there goes half their customer base going to another IP who doesn't restrict their bullshit

>>733057946
Eli5? Sources? Please and thank you

>>733051233
less than 25% of those entitled to vote does not equal a majority.

>>733058028
Shhh... They don't know about bad business models yet. It's still too much for them x(

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>>733057897
Trump was not in casino business. He was and is in money laundering business. The asshats next to Trump in this picture are Russians whose money Trump is laundering.

>>733058030
Sorry i was already on my way with it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/?c=0&s=trending

This is not meant to convert you or convince you or tell you you are wrong. It is an opinion piece, of course!

It is another perspective to start you off. At the end of it, I hope at least you might be interested in the other side.

You know as well as i do when a movement becomes popular its supporters become a torch mob and they start misconstruing facts and using false equivelancies, even if they were right to begin with. The net neutrality argument has become just that so you will see every bit of argument and rhetoric in the book against overturning it... Even if theyre right...

Want an example? See (insert voters of the opposite candidate you supported here).

>>733052646
why not the feds? One easy legal sweep and it is done - and cheaper to do as done in bulk...

so why not federalise it? (apart from silly and impractical clinging to two hundred year old ideas that ignore the modern world and practical reality)

the USA is one community - and it needs better internet infrastructure and provision which commercial sources are not and will not provide.

>>733052668
it is becoming clear that the UK vote was swayed by the same US billionaire who was also active in getting Trump elected...
Robert Mercer and cambridge Analytica... even more insidious and dangerous than the Russian hackers and putin paid for social media trolls.

>>733040051
Thats not really what the main issue is. Net neutrality is about how bandwidth is sold.

>>733054572
actually, any reasonable person spending two minutes thought would easily see that while the market can work in some services where supply and demand are elastic against each other, it is very poor at providing good quality and cheap services where the demand is inelastic against cost.

learn to basic economics.

and that includes learning about marginal utility and marginal cost - both of which Mises and the Libertarians also seem to forget about)

>>733041658
It's like u took your time to prove the other guys right, and he didn't twist your words I think u just didn't understand what was coming out, you deafeted your own idiocy

>>733044213
Lol get a load of this guy, as if we have demo crazy, every govt is a kingdom with a fancy name

>>733044674
Ahhhh, remember slavery, those where the days.