Shit Putin really is a friend to the west He got Trump in power

>>732858693
hitler was better imo

Throwing Trump under the bus when he realized he couldn't get west Russia?

>>732858693
If you think that's trolling wait until you see the shit he's been doing to Russians.

Welcome President Pence

he just wants to destabilize the us to resolidify the power of russia

>>732858693
'muricans are so stupid, they fell for a fucking CLOWN, Putin is a genius

The Pence fucko seems like a full retard too, good luck with that one Amerifats

>>732860831
Who's after Pence? Assuming he spams "Niggers" and openly beats gays his first day.

>>732860910
thank you comrade

>>732860829
Kek

Why can't I upload images? It just keeps giving me an error. Size is fine, etc. Advice = nudes of my gf

>>732860929
Paul Ryan

President Pence will be an idiot as well, but an idiot that can fool people and speak properly.

nigger

test

>>732858693
>he littiraly trolled the world
Ok

>>732860970
Because your gay, stop being such a fag then mods will let you post images

>>732860991
Pence is literally Paul Ryan 2: Extremist boogaloo

>>732860970
has something to do with whatever happened this morning that kept everyone from posting at all

>>732861063

it doesn't even say (you) next to this when you message me tho. Am I a superhero now?

this is what happens when you elect Gob from arrested development as president

The entire plan was to get Pence as president in the first place. They knew he couldn't win the election. So they used Trump as a media buffoon to trick the retards in this country to support him. Have him in office for a couple months, make a ton of mistakes, have a horrible approval rating, then resign or impeachment. Then boom, President Pence. This was their plan all along.

>>732860733
spilled my drink

>>732858693
Not even a Trumpfag but isn't it possible his releasing of said tape could be with the intention of showing Trump did nothing wrong in the meeting?

>>732861129
we've made a huge mistake?

>>732861154
> this was (((their))) plan all along*

Fixed that last part for you.

Aмepикa cocaт чyхaны eбaнныe

>>732861234
please don't nuke me sir

>>732861154

This. It's also why they won't impeach him like they should've already. They're investigating Pence because it's pretty fucking obvious now what is happening and they need to know for sure Pence isn't compromised 100% and what to do if he is.

>>732861209
I thought he said he had a transcript, not a tape.
Easy to fake a transcript.

>>732861280
Я блядь тaких, кaк ты в жoпy eбy пидp

>>732861329
shit is this bad or good?

or is he making fun of me for being a pussy?

>>732860991
Dear God we are fucked

>>732858693
Putin is not trolling.

During his election campaign, Trump promised to improve relations with Russia. After taking office, he did the opposite.

And this, dear friend, you only do once to Putin.

>>732861386
Teбя yжe в жoпy выeбaли yeбoк,мoлиcь лyчшe

>>732861386
It's bad. He's threatening to come to the US and rape us because he was in the KGB and Spetnatz. He's a real hard ass. He's going to make us pay for our ignorance.

He is calling you a pussy as well.

>>732858693
You are seriously retarded if you think Putin got Trump in power. Trump rose to power out of people getting sick of the mentally ill left and thier cultural marxist middle america backbone crushing bullshit.

>>732861154
>knew they couldn't get pence elected

And they liked their chances with trump more? Not everything is a conspiracy. Maybe we have no idea what the fuck we are doing and shit just happens

>>732861300
Ah that may be right. Just getting up to speed on all this.

>>732858693
Here is some fresh shit
https://youtu.be/2fV1EOQN_rI

>>732858693
Trump got put in power because the alternative was an insane war monger, who was such a shit candidate that she got beaten by a parody of rich people.

>>732861515
But he won't do with an understandable Earth language because he himself is too much of a pussy, and is ultimately worried that his bluff would be called.

>>732861525
No no anon, everything that happens is part a super sneaky 4D Chess Master Plan

>>732861591
>insane war monger
>korea
>syria

But.. The emails!!!

In all seriousness though i agree. Id have voted any republican candidate over Clinton. And when trump won i immediately thought.. Well at least we wont be fucking with syria now.

Wish i wasnt wrong.

>>732861614
Tы тaкoй кpyтoй,нo дядя из Кгб тeбя нaeбaшyт кaк cyкy

>>732861614
Yeah, typical Russian. They're basically the niggers of Europe. They talk big until they are one on one. They're even too beta to speak their mind when they are completely anonymous

>>732861679
Trump campaigned heavily on wiping out ISIS. How did you think we wouldn't be fucking with Syria?

>>732860906
DING DING DING

American nationalists are so fucking retarded that they shot their own country in both feet. "Muh cultur" - LOL

>>732861734
Лoл 1нa1 я бы тeбe изи paзъeбaл eбaнный пидop!

>>732861713
Go back to jacking off to German women in your Volgograd shithole apartment, you passive ass Slav

>>732861679
Pretty much. We were stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'd still sooner have Trump in office than Clinton though. 5, 6 years ago maybe I'd have been excited to put another Clinton in office, but she was just too sketchy, sneaky, and dishonest.

In the end though, I actually just wound up writing my own name into the ballot. I actually got some 25 votes in my hometown lol

>>732861787
Pashol naxuj urod

>>732861828
Oхyeл?Cмeлый тaкoй?

>>732861329
Ecли ты зaхoдишь в шoкoлaднyю фaбpикy пидopaм, тo ты тoжe пидop.

>>732861787
kek, you're the only fag here

>>732861787
Пoдмoйcя, мaня.

>>732861853
Hy ecли ты eбeшь,тo ты нaтypaл (нaвaepн)

>>732861234
He мeшaй людям вecти диcкyccию, you fag.

>>732860991
This was the plan all along.
>>732861810
I'd sooner have the Democrat FCC.

>>732861885
Heт ты

>>732861907
Hихyя. Taк чтo ты yжe зaшквapилcя.

Like minds, /b/rethren.

>>732861713
I'm a crock? Coming from the inbred shitposting on a jacked up Commodore 64 from the outskirts of a radiation quarantine, I'll take that as a compliment.

Stick to dashcam vids. It's the best your kind can offer this world.

>>732861792
why wouldnt he?
https://www.pic-upload.de/view-33184892/huh.jpg.html

>>732861962
Чтo в этoм плoхoгo в тpaпoeблe мaня ?

>>732861810
Ha nice.

Nah for me it was anyone over trump. My perspectives differ from yours based on my own experience and education and there were a few key points that are unnacceptable to me regardless of liberal or conservative government.

But thats my opinions. Good luck in the next running maybe youll get 40 votes.

Or become president.

>>732861749

Because syria is too grey.

If you help assad youre helping a tyrant whos killing more than isis. Some of those rebel factions are not terrorists. Theyre regular people who just want their country back. And killing them increases isis recruitment anyway so you arent putting a dent in it.

But you help the rebels, well some of them are isis so youre helping them too.

So i figured hed steer clear altogether because syria is just too fucked up to get into and theres no winning.

But away he went.

>>732861975
B глaзa ты бы зaccaл мнe тaкoe cкaзaть мaнькa

>>732861792
To be fair, I used to love German women. Before Germany replaced their flag with a hijab that is.

>>732861519
Duuude,
The Trump thing is over.....
I'm serious, it was fun while it lasted, but just take a good look at what he has done so far.
It is time for another revolution.

>>732861713
Haha, look at yourself.

>>732861792
I hate muslims

>>732862112
Hy пocмoтpeл,a дaльшe ?

>>732862174
Do a barrel roll.

>>732860991
This was the plan along, it up sets the fairies

Holy shit the Seth Rich thing really brought out the full shill force, must've hit the panic button.

>>732858693
>i got these tapes mannnn, you wanna hear this hot fire mann?

>>732858693
link to article discussing tapes?

>>732862193
БЛЯЯЯЯЯДЬ OБAMA!""""""!!!!!!!

>>732860906
This. He achieved maximum when the Soviet Union collapsed, and Putin can't stand that Russia has lost its once superpower status. He will do anything to get it back. He once orchestrated the explosion of apartment buildings in Russia and blamed it on Georgia (the country), and used it as an excuse to invade.

>>732862174
Cyka Blyka

>>732860991
thats the thing with trump. if he gets taken down, that means the republicans also have to take down pence, ryan, and a bunch of other people connected to him, and them. they end up being guilty by means of willful ignorance. some dems too.

trump knows hes failing as a president, but as long as he keeps himself too big to fail, he'll stay there totally untouched. its the oldest play in the book as far as 'managers' go. get people to backstab your enemies on your way to the top, promising them everything when you get there and when you do, fuck em. remind em of the blood on their hands and do whatever you please.

>>732862245
Not op but putin legit made the offer. I dont know if theyve been released yet.

And im not making any opinion on whats on them or what they reveal, but putin claims they will prove no secrets were traded so OP is off on his claim.

On the one hand, maybe they will be true and trumps innocent. On the other he could easily just make shit up and write out a transcript that makes it all look kosher.

Who the fuck even knows anymore.

>>732862248
TЫ CУКA HA КOГO HAПAЛ MЫ TЯ ЩA HAЙДЁM ПO AЙПИ И BЫPEЖEM CУКA БЛЯДЬ

>>732862281
Tвoя мaмa дoмa ?

>>732858693
this is what happens when you walk in to the snake den unprepared Trump fell for his shit and believed him to be an ally.

>>732862336
OЙ OЙ OЙ ПPOCTИTE,MEHЯ BЗЛOMAЛИ Я TAКOГO HE ПИCAЛ

You fuckin tards need to re evaluate your thought process if you rly think dTrump is getting impeached. Republicans love him way too much and their party would turn to shit if impeachment were to happen.

>>732862373
ECЛИ EЩЁ PAЗ БУДET Я УШATAЮ BЗЛOMЩИКA ЁБA

ECЛИ TЫ ПИЗДИШЬ TO TEБE ПИЗДA ПOHЯЛ

>>732862458
HИHAДA ДЯДЯ ПOЖAЛУЙCTA Я TAК БOЛЬШE HE БУДУ OБEЩAЯ

Russian are laughing at you, they are laughing at eu too. I hope they'll nuke us all, sooner the better.

add leslybushxmx on kik she's hot

>>732858693
He said the transcripts prove nothing was said that is classified idiot

>This is what bernieturds believe

Keep handing those donations to uncle bernie kiddos, we'll get them white billionaiz and millyonaiz and free goodies just hand them shekels over!

just watch this. everyone. now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOY4Ka-GBus

the rest of the world is cringing for you north americans. stop reacting how they want you to

>>732860929
Depends if he has a VP yet. Paul Ryan if no, Trump if yes as he will choose Trump as VP

>>732862517
A ты нa nekto.me был?

>>732861679
We dropped a few bombs on syria. Nothing more then obummer ever did. I don't consider that a war monger

>>732862657
Heт cлaдeнький :3

>>732862691
Цыц , aтo пpийдёт oгpoмнный нeгp и тpaхнeт тeбя в жoпy. Bce знaют чтo интepнeт yгpoзы этo cepёзнo!

>>732862664
An act of war isnt war mongering?

Where are your definitions anymore??

>>732862767
Heнaвижy пидopoв,вceх бы в жoпy выeбaл

>>732862575
Fascinating. Not surprising. Thank you.

Ironically plays into its own hands though doesnt it?

>>732858693
Trumps cabinet picks are fucking horrible. That Exxon Tillerson guy in cahoots with Putin and Russia..Dont get me started on the Goldman Sachs cabinet members.

>>732862861
But it's ok because Trump handpicked them so they can't be all that bad :^)

>>732861679
And liberals will have us be everyone's bitch while we're cucked into doing things everyone else's way because we're too scared to fight back. If anyone fights back then liberals cry

>>732860930
You can have my topmost kek

>>732861591
Nope you delusional retard, retards like you were tricked by the king of all retards into voting for him

>>732862906

Obama was called a war monger or President Drone by most Trumpers during his campaign.

Now that Trump has amped that up they've dropped that narrative.

>>732862906
Liberals cry as much as conservatives. Thats a fact. For 8 years they bitched and cried about Obama being born in Kenya and stupid shit like that.

>>732862899
just as bad as diversity for diversity's sake

>>732862568
The grassroots project is over, anon. You're 6 months behind the times.

>>732861191
Y tho

>>732862966

He was a secret muslim who was going to bring sharia law to America and take everyone's guns!

Oh and while being a secret muslim he was also a socialist communist!

DEATH PANELS!

FEMA DEATH CAMPS!

SOCIALST!

COMMUNIST!

>>732862986
Lets not forget his pick Jeff Session.. Fuck Jeff Sessions and his vampire ass. Dude is a private prison profiteer. He basically wants to criminalize marijuana and throw people in prison for 10 plus years because of Marijuana.. Trump fucking sucks period.

>>732861232
W...... What?

>>732862986
Not really the same thing. While I agree "diversity for diversity's sake" is a pretty soulless argument. Putting people into government positions with serious power while they have a ulterior agenda (make money at the expense of the U.S.) is infinitely worse.

>>732862963
I don't think liberals really knew about the drone strikes done by Obama because I don't even really remember hearing about them. I guess because liberals would cry if the media spoon fed them a narrative like that. Meanwhile the MSM CONSTANTLY pushes negative after negative about Trump and all the liberal sheep blindly eat it up.

>>732862906
Not even so. Liberals want isis dead too.

Theyre concerned about the tactics and approaches because the wars so far have only strengthened them.

You kill an isis target with a drone bomb. Awesome. You also killed a bunch of civilians. In the liberal mind, A) the civilian casualties are unnacceptable. B) youve now filled the families of the dead with hatred, radicalised them, and they are now prime to be new isis recruits.

You killed one guy, and created a handful more.

Thats a problem. Even if we dont have a solution now, the solution is definitely not keep doing what we're doing.

Understand isis are extreme right wingers who are the exact equivelant of, say, american militias. They see an enemy(america), they find them a threat to their lives and families, they dont want or care to know what the common american is really like, they just want all of you dead. The difference is with their destabalised government and daily mortars in their windows theyre more likely to actually pick up a gun and get out there. No one is stopping them.


Exact same human. Different conditions.

By all means, blow isis to hell. I wouldnt care if i watched every last one of them suffer.

But youre just making more of them.

>>732863036

If there is anything America needs it is more non-violent drug offenders in jail!

Thank you Based Trump.

>>732863058
Example: Trumps cabinet picks.. Betsy DeVoss?? Really ?? She has no business being in charge of public education.

>>732863058
who's to say any person put into that position wouldn't have an agenda of some kind to push? liberals are just mad cuz the shoe is on the other foot and they don't like it.

>>732863062

They were in the news all the time. Democrats were mostly for drones because they preferred that option over the Bush years which was boots on the ground and trillions of dollars down the drain.

Trumps are in the news because he's gotten navy seals killed recently and a 7 year old American citizen was killed in one of his strikes.

>>732863036
session or sessions w/e the fuck is a jackass

>>732858693
You millennials watch too much CNN/MSNBC. This is all fake news bs that the media feeds you because they hate Trump. You're all mindless drones

>>732863112
Nobody is saying that they people in high positions in say, Congress, don't have an ulterior motive. They absolutely do, it's been known for a long time considering a lot of said info is public knowledge.

That does not however, make it "ok". I don't think anyone would argue that using your position of power to personally profit at the expense of the people you're supposed to be helping is acceptable.

>>732863071
It is absolutely impossible to fight a war without civilian casualties. Also if you have the mentality that civilian casualties are unacceptable, then the enemy will always hide their army among their regular citizens and fight with a HUGE advantage. While you should try to minimize civilian casualties, to treat them as unacceptable is unacceptable. That's why we lose every single war where militia hides among the citizens: because liberals constantly protest how innocent citizens wind up dying.

There is NO humanitarian way of ending a war, and trying to do so creates things like ISIS. You defeat your enemy, subjugate them, place harsh punishments for disobeying your rules, show them that you're in charge now, and anyone who acts on hatred or revenge gets shot on the spot setting an example for the others. If you do that then over enough time, they accept their new rule and the hatred of the past becomes forgotten as more and more people weren't alive during the time of the war.

>>732862039
Yeah I mean that is an adequate summary of the situation there, I'm just not sure how you could've expected him to fight ISIS without fucking around in Syria be it arming rebels or just drone strikes.

>>732863152
He's so fucking horrible dude. We finally made some steps legalizing marijuana and more than half the country is for it. Then here comes needle dick Sessions to start raiding dispensaries and throwing stoners back in prison. What a fuck head!

>>732860783
I prefer to call it the russiantien empire.

>>732863245

>You defeat your enemy, subjugate them, place harsh punishments for disobeying your rules, show them that you're in charge now, and anyone who acts on hatred or revenge gets shot on the spot setting an example for the others.

Total war isn't a thing anymore.

The west/russia created all these problems in the middle east and now we are mad we have to deal with them.

>>732862691
Блядь, этo тaк oхyeннo звyчит.

>>732863245
I will repeat.

We may not have the solution now. Sure. Cant avoid killing civilians. I get that and thats fine.

But what were doing is creating more of them anyway. So that isnt the solution either. Why are we pouring billions of dollars and american soldiers lives into literally making the problem worse??

Thats the issue here. And thats what makes the civilian loss of life so unnacceptable, because youre killing innocent people and pouring gasoline on the fire at the exact same time.

If it was working id cry for the dead but look forward to the victory and i would not be debating you. But thats not whats happening. Weve made no progress against isis, they continue to grow, they continue to radicalise, and we continue to pour gasoline on the fire because "lol were helping"

>>732858693
Yes goy, CNN and Buzzfeed are your friend. Anything the DORRRRUMMMMPPPHHHFFFFF-kins say is a lie. Proof is a construct of evil white men. You don't need it. Remember, goy, liberals have higher IQ's than inbred rednecks.

well my dearest americans he trolled you and fell for it hard.

>>732862966

...That was the conservatives though

Stop using words that you don't know the meaning of

>>732863265
Indeed. Oversight on my part. I agree.

>>732862813
Cкoлькo пидopoв в дeнь ты бы oтpaбaтывaл, ecли бы cтpeмилcя oтpaбoтaть их вceх зa вcю cвoю жизнь?

>>732863241
ofc not but it's not up to you to decide who to pick. he made his choice and now he's gotta stick with it or look like an idiot. it's a tough decision that i don't think he thought too much about to begin with, but, i think he's starting to grow a little as a result of all this and come out the other side as a better representative of the people. he needs the criticism whether he wants it or not.

>>732863372
What you don't realize is that soldiers for every nation see themselves as just. It's not a question of civilians being innocent and thus they can't be killed. From a nation's standpoint, even soldiers dying is unacceptable and if my brother fought for my country and got killed, I would still be filled with hatred. I don't give a shit that he was a soldier and died in battle, I'm still gonna hate the enemy that killed him.

That's one of the reasons why you basically have to do a total war type situation. You cannot win a war without imposing onto the enemy that you really did win and drill it deep into them. As the winner you are the new justice and the hatred of the past either goes away or they go away.

>>732863431
>he's gotta stick with it or look like an idiot

This is terrible reasoning. I thought people liked Trump because he "represented the average person unlike those big shoes in Washington". Yet here you are, saying that he has to imitate the people he was supposed to not be.

Not to mention the difference between growing a fucking backbone vs. looking stupid (when the whole world knows that already) should be a no brainer.

Are you kidding me?

>>732863380
Yeah like I said conservatives and liberals both cry like pussies.. This system is fucked! Its now party over country.

>>732862597
And then Trump will select pence, and it will be the ride that never ends

>>732863192
Said the mindless trump drone
Actually participate or fuck off

>>732860970
I cropped mine and it was fine, try that.

>>732863415
Я тaк cильнo из нeнaвижy, чтo нaвepн 20

>>732863547
growing a backbone and looking like an idiot are two peas in the same pod in this case. put yourself in his position. are you going to start complying with the lefts requests after all the slandering and protesting they've done? he's doing exactly what republicans wanted him to do: PISS OFF LIBERALS and guess what? it worked

>>732858693
Faggot

>>732858693

It's not trolling... it's much more devious and well thought out than people understand.

He has a lot to gain by creating instability in the U.S., much like the U.S. has a lot to gain by maintaining instability in the Middle East (that's why we bounce from war to war there with no end in sight).

Partisan politics is something to keep stupid people busy and fooled into thinking their vote or opinion actually matters... the real power players don't care about or follow any ideology other than money.

>>732863681
Пиcькa ?

>>732863529
I do realise that. Maybe too briefly mentioned when i said "pouring the lives of american soldiers".

Of course that part sucks but theres also a huge difference in public perception of someone whos job it was to stand and fight, and someone who was just out shopping or a child.

My brother in law served in afghanistan as a high ranking offcer so aside from all of my opinions i can actually offer this one fact:

They did a lot of polling of public opinions of al qaeda and the caf and american forces.

When public support for our soldiers was low, they did humanitarian work, public relations, built roads schools and hospitals, and defended highways for local truckers.

When public opinions of our soldiers were high, thats when they started bombing and attacking al qaeda.

There is a strong understanding among our military of what im talking about. You cant just drop bombs willy nilly.

But even so, drones cant be so precise, especially in countries we do not hace active military occupation. Blame obama, fine. I do too. But that kind of just kill the bastard at all costs tactics do not work.

>>732863529
Please show me cases where the hatred of the past goes away while being subjugated by the winners drilling it in their heads

>>732863657
What are you rambling about? This isn't a "liberals" vs. "republicans" thing. This is about doing the job he was voted into.

NOBODY should be happy with characters like Rex Tillerson, Steven Mnuchin or Linda McMahon (as some examples) being in power. That should also mean that you should be pretty pissed at Trump for doing it. And yet people aren't. I guess they don't want to be honest with themselves because they don't want to criticize poor wittle Trumpy because getting criticized for doing a bad job is where people draw the line in the sand, apparently.

>>732861525

Trump was a populist to people who felt marginalized in society despite being a sizable demographic. Everyone else, sans Sanders, ran like it was same old same old and couldn't compete with that. I don't know if Sanders would have won, but Hillary forcing the DNC to get rid of any competition so she could run a terrible, out-of-touch campaign promising "I just want same old same old" never stood a chance against a populist. Even if he is a buffoon.

>>732858693
Putin is either the cleverest troll of all time all Americans are just plain fucking dumb.

>>732863785
>This isn't a "liberals" vs. "republicans" thing
i'm sorry, but it is and you know it. you can keep telling yourself you're saying all this because you think it's just trump, but you and i know the real truth. you don't like republicans and trump is the perfect scapegoat to vent your frustration over hillary not winning.
>things aren't perfect so that means you're doing a bad job
perfect logic

>>732862326
>On the other he could easily just make shit up and write out a transcript that makes it all look kosher

I mean, this is the most obvious thing.

"Hey look, that secret meeting we had was no big deal, yeah? Here, I'll give you a document from my office which talks about everything we said. Noooooo bad stuff, hahaha!"

This is like asking delinquents to write up a summary of what they did that one day they skipped school, and then just 100% believing everything they say. Putin might be too used to strong-arming Russians.

>>732863963
Thats my strongest suspicion.

But i give up on opinions. These last few months have been tiring. Who the fuck knows anything about anything anymore.

>>732863781
That's basically how every single empire in past history started. You think all of the places conquered by the Roman empire weren't filled with hatred at first? Yet over time and as they were subjugated properly, then realized they were being treated fairly and even better if they dropped their hatred, mostly all those territories accepted Roman rule.

Let's pose a hypothetical for you: suppose you DON'T do a total war type situation and beat an enemy. Since soldier deaths still cause hatred, yet you leave the people "free" and act like you're letting them govern themselves, they're just going to wind up using their hatred to backstab you. Also when they're backed by a religion that endorses jihad then they're going to backstab you even more. You fought an enemy for a reason, yet everyone is still accustomed to the life which follows the reason that they're our enemy. If you don't make a strong effort to do something to change the enemy, then why even fight a war in the first place?

A total war doesn't have to be inhumane. It's no different from the death penalty of our own citizens. You put the rules down and anyone who breaks them dies. You strictly enforce your laws at least to a point where they don't break them, then you ease it back to within reason.

>>732863192
>fake news

I feel like people who use this phrase don't actually know what it means and just use it as a way to lazily avoid researching anything.

>>732858693

Putin is more anti-globalist than anti-American. Trump was an opportunity to potentially take out the globalist threat, Clinton is the epitome of the globalists. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

>>732863898
Yeah, nah. I'd be open to a discussion on why it is a "us vs. them" thing but your argument is baseless.

Yes, I don't like Trump. No, that does not mean I like Hillary. That fact that you brought it up or that I have to explain that means you're not really interested in having a discussion.

Maybe one day people will stop arbitrarily bringing up Hillary to misdirect discussion away from Trump.

>>732861679
Yeah the emails those were actually a crime not the nothing burger people are claiming Trump is doing

>>732864023
To me its the right wing equivelant of the left terms "white priveledge" or "bigot".

Lost all meaning and immediately signals the user of the term is probably a retard.

>>732862347
Translation

Is your mother home

>>732864045
look i have no interest in continuing the conversation because it's a moot fucking point. you think he's doing a bad job and i don't. you are a liberal who voted for hillary and are the possibly the saltiest little hippy cuck tree hugger i have ever come across. so seeing as we won't be changing each others minds on the matter i'll be playing street fighter.

>>732862861
How is he in "cahoots"?

>>732860910
I must admit that Putin did best at screwing Murica than the Soviets ever dreamt of. GG. Too bad that Putin went full alt-right himself : KGB, you disappoint me.

>>732862937
Trump got into power because the left is dangerous

>>732863898
>i'm sorry, but it is and you know it.

Trying to contextualize it in a "us vs them" situation is a lazy way to avoid being critical of your own political party members, particularly when they're doing a pretty bad job and are blatantly just putting tycoons into power to profit off of your poor decision making.

>over hillary not winning.

Nobody cares anymore. She was a bad candidate and it would be better if she just disappeared. But I'm a moderate and hated both candidates.

Why do Trump fanatics keep harping on about her? Is it just a way of deflecting on any insight into the person you've put into power? Is it just a broken record from the campaign and there isn't any other talking point or argument to make in DEFENSE of Trump? At this point it just sounds either sad or like you are trolling.

>>732864196
Because Rex Tillerson has direct ties to the Russian government. Russia and Rex both stand to benefit from certain U.S. actions that, as Secretary of State, Rex can make happen.

Specifically in the oil business.

>>732863036
WTF sessions is awesome. Niggers be!ong in prison and he's going after the wetback enabelers and other liberal bs.

>>732864188
Way to look weak. You had to throw in cuck >>732864098 this

>>732863071
Liberals make ex uses for Islam all the time. They know they let isis happen when they pulled out of Iraq. We created a power vacum. Should have never left iraq

>>732863997

That's another thing though, is it just a barrage of shit to exhaust people with? Like, is all of this mess intentional?

>>732864288
i was already critical in a previous post that you seemed to magically brush right over. but no let's keep discussing things that address the way you feel

>>732864246
Please keep that healthy thinking! Can't wait to see what language will be the international standard after American English.

>>732863094
Why? She believes in school choice. We need to dismantle the education department.

>>732864387
the same way the word racist has lost all meaning to me you unbelievable hypocrite

>>732864407
Another anon actually posted a video saying theyre doing exactly that.

Im not surprised in the least.

>>732863274
There is no reason to make weed legal. Like sessions said nobody good smokes weed

>>732860906
Just as we have some in the middle East.

>>732864466
I didn't use the word racist. I'm not who you were arguing with. Just observing your dumb post

>>732864406
And you're just going to look over all the other times Republicans were directly involved in the Middle East? It's been going on since the 1960s. (Hint: Richard Nixon was voted in 1968 under the Republican party). It's not a particular parties problem/fault. Because they are both guilty as fuck.

I'm curious. Where do you think all those weapons that the various rebel/terrorists groups have came from? The military training?

>>732862966
Please, nobody outside a few idiots online cared about obamas birth certificate. They bitched about his massive email speeding and Marxist Policies. They did put pepeclips on their collars and resist. They actually won elections.

>>732864601
no but you identify with the post did you not? how many times has some retard like you called president trump a racist?

>>732864662
What? There was governors and congressman petition for that birth certificate.

It was anything but "a few idiots online".

>>732864419
>i was already critical in a previous post

I have no idea which post that is, anon. But from the way you write I don't actually believe you.

>let's keep discussing things that address the way you feel

Since this was never brought up at any point, it seems like you're just going off of stereotypes to make assumptions. You're not good at this whole 'discussion' thing are you?

>>732864638
Isis was a direct result of pulling out of Iraq. We did the right thing goimg into Iraq and in 2008 Iraq had less deaths than in Chicago. We literally won in Iraq until we pulled out the troops and let isis go to town. This was exactly what bush and the rest said would happen with the left screamed about pulling out

>>732864662

>nobody outside a few idiots online cared about obamas birth certificate

kek

Trump was one of those idiots.

>>732864734
False.

>>732864387
>way to look weak
i'm sorry, where the fuck is your argument, cunt? i don't see you saying a goddamn thing worth repeating so keep sucking your buddies dick and don't let any dumb shit escape from your mouth while you're doing it

>>732864705
Trump is racist. I'm not sure how that's even an arguement anymore. Doesn't mean all his supporters are.

>>732864775
That's an oversimplification.

>>732864543
Throw someone scumbag who lacks the motivation to do anything shitty in jail, pay for their food and housing and cloth them. Great idea fuck stick. I don't smoke myself but shit let them fuck their lives up. Make welfair drug test and deny anyone who uses so they can't leech of the state.

>>732861281
Pence isn't "involved" with anything and neither is trump. There is no proof of any Russia conspiracy.

>>732864775
I'm not talking about just ISIS. Cherry picking ISIS when there have been many groups before ISIS that weren't all that different should have equal consideration when talking about the problem.

It's disingenuous to say liberals are shitters for causing ISIS when Republicans have done essentially the same thing.

>>732858693
He is now trying to save Trump, further proving the collusion.

Trump fires Comey which given the circumstances is an impeachable offense.

Trump tried to bribe Comey to stop the Flynn investigation - This is illegal and is obstruction of justice - not only impeachable, but could land him in prison.

Trump leaked state secrets to the Russians. Part of his mission obviously - impeachable and treasonous.

Putin is now telling people he can release transcripts. So tell me this, how did he get these transcripts? How the fuck do the Russians have ears in the Oval Office? Clearly collusion and yet another impeachable offense.

Now many republicans in congress are even calling for impeachment hearings to begin. It looks like his presidency is nearing it's end.

>>732864406
>never should have left iraq
Or went in the first place, but i agree. We started that fight and it had to be finished. Damn obama.

>excuses for muslims.

Im in the middle on that. Some muslims are the equivelant of "sunday christians". They associate with islam by family tradition but every other day of the week theyre just worried about their jobs and taking care if their kids and having the next cellphone just like anyone else.

In fact ive met a lot of muslims and worked with a lot and all of them are just that (they were also all born here so thats definitely a factor.)

And i can tell you all of them at some point have been publicly assaulted verbally or otherwise over their religion. That isnt fair or right at all.

But the middle east is a regressionist cess pit and i cannot support sharia law, and i cannot support a secular muslim government.

We seperated church and state for a reason and isis is working to create an islamic nation. No way, not ever, stop them dead.

But i also recognize there are a lot of muslims there who are the same as the ones here.

Did nothing with their lives except fell out of a vagina in a place they didnt choose and spent their lives dedicated to just surviving and supporting themselves.

They must be protected.

How? I dont fuckin know man this is all opinion im not the architect of solutions.


But id really rather forget all of it and just keep on my life.

Been a good debate. I respect all your opinions. Thank you.

>>732864742
Even if you're right nobody likes condescending liberals who think they're smarter than everyone. It just makes people hate you more rather than listen no matter how good your points are

>>732860829
What's he doing? I won't lie I don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore call me a nigger /sheep I don't care I just need know wtf is going on

>>732864805
Matthew Hill, Roy Blunt, Sarah Palin, Nathan Deal, David Vitter.

Just to name a few. Are you even trying?

>>732864806
See >>732864601
My arguement is with someone worth arguing with. Go play street fighter

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I'll vote for him in 2020, just to piss you guys off tbh fam.

>>732864886
Have you bothered to check?

>>732864742
and you're not good at this reading thing. i already said it's a moot point yet you throw your 10 cents in anyways like it's going to spark up another heated debate. since you're the kinda guy that need to has the last word here you go

>>732864886
bullshit. the collusion has lead not only to pence being involved but many others in the GOP minimally had knowledge of it. paul ryan, and others have also been specifically named in the ongoing investigations. this runs very deep into the republican party.

>>732865027
this right here! trump has now been caught in the middle of so many scandals leading directly back to the kremlin. putin is also now trying to save his boy.

tapes, tapes, tapes ...why is it so hard to read and understand all Putin says he has is written transcripts of the meeting? And nobody is going to believe something that could easily be doctored from an untrustworthy, ex-KGB member.

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Have you heard anything about Ukraine lately? Might as well redraw the borders.
The liberals will keep Trump in the news so nothing gets done.

>>732865275
he'll be lucky to stay in office through july. he most certainly will be unable to finish out his term at this point.

>>732865500
Trump shoots his foot everyday and you think it's the liberals fault he's in the news?

Pull that oversized vibrating red pill out of your ass

>>732865275
I doubt he'll get the backing he needs from the GOP for a second term. Assuming of course he makes it that long.

>>732865275
>Autism

>>732865500
You mean, the part where the Ukrainian government is also cracking down on it's own media in very Trump fashion?

>>732863245
>It is absolutely impossible to fight a war without civilian casualties.
IMAGINE. The very ACT of war kills people and inspires FURTHER ACTS OF WAR.

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>>732861191

He really was though. Takes balls of steel to take on the International Bankers.

>>732865119
imprisoning and killing opposition, korrupt, has outer political balls af, cares less, hates gays etc.

at least Pence will get rid of multiple genders, traps and homosapiens

>>732864007
and look back on the Roman Empire son. Look what history tells you about it? Sure it lasted for awhile, accomplished some shit, built some buildings, developed some mathematics.

Then a bunch of people got tired of their fucking shit and BURNED ROME TO THE FUCKING GROUND.

Which was then followed by about 1000 years of brutal provincial violence.

>>732866310
Orin Hatch is the next one in line who's not been linked directly to the Kremlin. There is an ongoing FBI investigation into many republicans including Pence, so he won't get to be sworn in.

>>732866310
I particularly hate homosapiens these days.

>>732866423
As much as I hate pence and want it to be true, I wouldn't believe he was involved with collusion with Russia.

>>732866584
He was named specifically by GOP members of the senate committee. He is no more eligible than Trump is.

>>732866423
if trump is forced out for collusion, then the entire election will be invalidated. an emergency election will need to be held, because technically if you remove the russian hackers from the equation, you are left with a hillary win.

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>>732858693

>tapes
>Trump removed from office

What tapes? The only "tapes" I heard of were in Trump's vague ass Tweet about Comey, which I think he's bluffing about to begin with.

If you're talking about the transcript of the conversation with the Russian guy where he showed him supposedly classified information, it's his right as President to do so.

The big thing is probably this

https://twitter.com/StevePieczenik

Trump may have exposed the truth about Israel to Russia.

>>732866847
>which I think he's bluffing about
he better be. otherwise chock up one more criminal charge for him.

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>>732866809
>a hillary win

>>732866847

The statement was reportedly about bombs that aren't detectable in the laptops not remote controlling the airplanes from a piece of shit chrome book.

>kek

>>732867220
Yeah some of those tweets look conspiracy tinfoil worthy to me.

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>>732863245

Considering Israel's track record of false flags and backstabbing (pic related) ISIS may well be run by them, albeit at arm's length.

It fits the usual routine:

>false flag in which an enemy of Israel is framed
>provokes U.S into fighting Israel's enemies
>enemies destabilized
>enemies which formerly had real militaries complete with an air force (albeit shitty ones but come on) are now run by ISIS which are rag tag LARPers compared to a legit military
>Israel always has more """intelligence""" to feed the U.S about these terrorists, conveniently timed

Create the problem in private, offer the solution in public. Rinse and repeat.

>>732864543

The Government NEEDS drugs to remain illegal in order to keep the price high so they can profit from it. The CIA makes massive money by drug running, particularly heroin.

>>732866022

The media runs roughshod over Trump 24/7. Talking shit about them is not "cracking down".

Clapper and others have admitted they have found no evidence of collusion. Meanwhile all of Trump's legitimate foibles go unspoken of.

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>>732866397

>tired of their shit

Cool Edgy Millennial Oversimplification, Fam

Rome over extended itself and became not "too big to fail" but "so big it had to fail". The U.S is in its death throes. Invading and inviting, feeding and bombing, policing and corrupting, and that's just foreign affairs. Throw in the welfare state and there's no hope.

Atlas isn't gonna shrug, he's gonna be crushed. I hope for a New Byzantium, but hope isn't worth much.

>>732866423
Lol but there is no link to the Kremlin. Stop reading Louise Mensch.

There is zero evidence of collusion. None, zip. Everyone admits that.

>>732866687
Named what? There hasn't been any accusations or evidence.

>>732866809
Only in fiction

>>732865717
They are slandering him with false accusations

>>732865384
There is no collusion you moron. Every senator and congressman admits that.

You are just babeling on.

>>732865281
Yes, there is zero evidence of any collusion. It's just a liberal fantasy.

>>732868099

I don't think the collusion thing even matters anymore.

The real discussion should be about Flynn and if Trump actually did tell Comey to drop the investigation.

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>>732866929

What did he do that was criminal, and what evidence do you have to present? Even Clapper and that lady admit it.

>>732866809

Killary's numbers were shit before the """hacking""" and there has still been no evidence presented to prove that Russia did it.

But let's say they did: all they did was expose the truth about the DNC, and exposed it thanks to the DNC's own terrible cyber security.

You can not, by Obama's own admission, "hack" vote tallies. The term "election hacking" and all its variants is pure propaganda.

She lost because she spent about 2 minutes in total in Ohio and other states. While she had celebrities shilling for her, Trump was campaigning in the Rust Belt until the very end.

They all but handed him the win.

>>732867220

Why do you think Israel is shitting its pants? Because they suspect Trump showed the Rooshian some shit that, combined with what the Russians know, could prove Israel is up to some bullshit again.

>>732865027
He didn't leak stake secrets, he spoke about an isis threat and once it leaves his mouth it's no longer classified.

As far as collusion goes, there is none and no proof. This has been said over and over again and there hasn't been a shred of evidence presented.

Trump didn't bribe come he requested it and that's not obstruction of justice.

>>732866423
Are you niggers really this uninformed?

>>732868705

proof they're "shitting their pants."

They're probably mad because they don't trust/work with Russia.

>>732866929
There is nothing to "charge" him with.

>>732868520

If he did, that's bad...not just for Trump, but Comey.

If Trump did say it, then that means Comey sat on it for months, which is damning as fuck.

WTB RUSSIAN BRIDE. 4GP

>>732867374
Anyone pushing the impeachment nor collusion memeis a conspiracy theorist.

>>732868917

>Comey sat on it for months, which is damning as fuck

Considering the investigation into Flynn is on-going there wasn't really any reason to leak that to the press at the time.

>>732868520
That's not a crime and the collusion thing is only a thing to those who ignore the facts.

>>732869084
The investigation into Russia has gone down to just Flynn and improper payments. This isn't some grand conspiracy. The goal posts for this trump Russia nonsense have already been moved to just flynn.

>>732869114

Telling an investigator to drop an investigation is definitely a red flag.

Then firing that investigator under false pretenses(he first said it was because of deputy AG recommendation and then later said he was going to fire him anyways) could be obstruction of justice.

There is definitely something here otherwise Trump wouldn't have asked Comey to drop it.

>>732868870

Google, son. They're mad as heck right now.

As for Russia, they fight ISIS in earnest. ISIS fought the Syrian/Russian alliance about 2.5 times more than they've fought the U.S last year.

The U.S dabbles here and there, but remember, a few years ago Obama wanted war in Syria and the People gave a resounding "No". They knew they would effectively be an air force for ISIS.

>>732869084

Ongoing or not, he's still asking him to stop it, which if it's true, is a massive fuck up.

>>732869350

They're two separate investigations.

Comey said under oath there were 2 investigations.

It's pretty obvious one of those is about Russia interference in the election and the other is about Michael Flynn.

>>732869350
First comey isn't involved directly with the investigation. Second asking him to move along with this is not even close to obstruction of justice. He did t directly hamper the investigation. That is what obstruction is.

>>732869481

>First comey isn't involved directly with the investigation.

Wrong.

>Second asking him to move along with this is not even close to obstruction of justice

Wrong.

>>732869435
And that is about the hacking. The only thing that investigation had of to from the Trump campaign is improper reporting of payments by Flynn.

>>732868484
Seriously. Go do some research. Take off your conservative I hate liberal glasses and read some stuff. Both left and right wing. Read both and form an opinion that's not fed to you

>>732869586
Actually I'm right, the testimony from both the assistant ag and deputy fbi director confirm this. Trump asked and come said no. That was the end of it. He didn't "order" comey to do anything. Remember he asked months ago.

>>732869481

You're a special kind of stupid.

>>732869594

The Flynn investigation isn't related to the Russia interference during the campaign.

We need to find out of Flynn was contacting the Russians on his own or under direction from Trump admin.

>>732869351

>There is definitely something here otherwise Trump wouldn't have asked Comey to drop it.

There's nothing, even according to James Clapper. The truth is that Trump is a fucktard who makes problems for himself by being a shitty communicator and Tweeting when he should be sleeping. He hasn't even filled all the cabinet and staffer positions so he still has a ton of Obama's old guard in the ranks.

IF he asked him to "move on" or whatever, he probably did it out of exasperation and annoyance. He does this shit all the time, shoving his foot in his mouth and then shooting it, in that order.

>>732868740
Yes but the info he shared was given to him by our allies who didn't want it shared. He threatens our foreign relations constantly

>>732869719

>when your only source of news is breitbart

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>>732869586
>>732869751

>>732869657
I have and the collusion story is nonsense that hasn't had a shred of proof presented and has been confirmed many time by many people with access to the facts

The on!y people who still are pushing this narrative of some massive Russian conspiracy are the Louise Mensch types.

This is now and always has been about flynn.

>>732869762

Clapper was asked about Russia interference and collusion with the Trump campaign.

You realize he's a private citizen and wasn't heading an investigation into Flynn right?

THESE ARE 2 SEPERATE INVESTIGATIONS!

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>>732869834

It's known, dipshit. The most virulent anti-Trump people have admitted that so far, nothing is proven.

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that's right, trump the little hands racist bitch orange orangutan spawn will be impeached, jailed, raped, and eventually laid to waste. good riddance!

>>732869481
Look up why previous presidents have been impeached

>>732869855

Proof Comey wasn't involved in the investigation?

>>732869754
The investigation is about payments. The only contacts Flynn had with Russia were before trump ran and after the election. Flynn wasnt some information mule for trump

>>732869751
I'm not the one pushing debunked Russia conspiracy theories like Louise Mensch

>>732870026

>The investigation is about payments.

source?

>>732869834
Watch the testimony you moron.

>>732869908

And there's nothing there for either one, as of yet.

>>732869904
That's all I can ask. I wish more people were like you anon

>>732869908
Clapper was in charge during the allege "hacking". He saw the same facts

>>732870127

Flynn has been subpoenaed.

>nothing there

kek

>>732870167

Was he in charge during the Michael Flynn investigation?

Jesus Christ these are two separate things.

>>732869986
For lying under oath or actually imledeing and investigation. No asking someone a favor.

>>732869995

"Wrong" and name calling are non-arguments, sophist. Step your game up.

>>732862277
wat the fuck are you talking about it
the blown up apartment in russia to rape chechnya not georgia
georgia invaded south osetia where everyone had russian passport because russia allows double nationality so it turns out georgia just invaded their own state that was part of georgia but had 80% russian citizens living in it so gg no re
also at the same time so putin sends in the big guns to skull fuck georgians in one week

>>732870263

Show me proof Comey wasn't involved in the Michael Flynn investigation.

>>732869995
The head of the FBI doesn't do that.

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>>732870170

>as of yet

Keep beating this narrative to death and you'll only undermine yourselves.

This shit is insane, with everyone screaming and no one saying a god damn thing.

>>732870249

>No asking someone a favor.

And when they don't do what you ask you fire them.

You see the possible problem here?

>>732858693
ITT: correct the record shills

>>732870335

Because everyone already involved in the investigation recused themselves.

Do you seriously not remember that?

Also still waiting for that proof that Comey wasn't involved in the Flynn investigation.

tick..tick...tick..

>>732867395

WHY THE FUCK DO WE PAY THESE PEOPLE AND SAY THEY'RE OUR GREATEST ALLY??

WHY???

pls answer

>>732870170
No he wasn't. Certain financial records were. This is about his payments. The collusion nonsense has died.

>>732870360

So they subpoenaed him for no reason?

Why aren't they just subpoenaing every possible criminal in the country?

>>732868281
Cute, kid.

>>732870394
Months later. After the investigation is a!most completed. Either way the investigation wasn't interrupted or impeded.

>>732870319

I was telling you to step your game up, we're not at odds here. If you don't have argumentation, you look bad.

Everyone is so fucking sensitive here.

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>>732858693
Litvinenko does not approve this post.

>>732870412

CTR is dead, it's ShareBlue now. Literally mercenary shitposters.

>>732865119
As the other anon said, he's subtly fucking the Russians in the ass. Him and his goons have slowly been shifting the country away from democracy. They're silencing the opposition (the opposition keep getting assassinated by "extremists"), seized control of the media (and therefore only portray themselves positively), extended the mandate time so he can have power for longer and so on.

It means that he's free to fuck the country over with horrendous policies and overspending in terms of propaganda and military, all for the sake of consolidating the power of Russia. The daily lives of Russians can be quite rough, with many issues that most westerners wouldn't even imagine can actually exist, yet he's too busy trying to play dick measuring contests with the west, and making sure the relations with the west never really improve.

Basically imagine you go to the hospital which is supposed to be fully paid by the state, yet all of the equipment is shit because of corruption, the fucking doctors scam you, none of your medication is actually paid for, there's absolutely no regulation to protect you as a consumer, the justice system doesn't give a shit about your issues and will probably scam you too and so on. It's like everything is rigged to fuck you in the ass, but Russians generally don't really know better...

>>732870670

Where is the proof Comey wasn't involved in the investigation though?

>>732870723
Seth Rich does.

>>732870495
Only two people, sessions who was t even involved. And Nunes who wasn't part of the FBI investigation.

Again director McCabe a democrat btw

>>732870592

Is that really out of the realm of possibility, considering how desperate they are?

Can't believe Trump fired Comey that way tho, terribly unprofessional.

>>732870628

Trump may have not known how serious it was until the Michael Flynn subpoena came out.

He was fired the same day.

>>732870877

I'M TELLING YOU TO DEBATE LIKE AN ADULT, I'M NOT WHO THE FUCK YOU THINK I AM THERE ARE NO ID'S HERE

DUMB CUNTS

>>732870592
They subpoenaed his finfancial records.

>>732870882

The fucking attorney general.

>not even involved.

Nigger try again.

>>732870877
The testimony from the debuty director.

>>732871014

Another anon made the claim that Comey wasn't even involved in the investigation.

I am asking for evidence of that and I'm "debating" like a kid?

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>>732871161

>debuty

>>732871061
>>732871161

>finfancial

>debuty

nigger are you trolling or just actually retarded

>>732870986
The subpoena wasn't from the FBI and was much earlier

>>732871179

I think his point is that calling names and saying wrong over and over is no way to argue, and that's exactly what you were doing. You chimped out on him since you can't tell anyone apart thanks to no id's. Jesus fuck, dude.