Hi /b/ I think this is the only plays where I can ask this question.

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>be a man
>attracted to females at their peak sexual age
>Feel bad about it

It's not fucking babies dude. You're fine.

As long as you're not hurting anyone it's fine

>>732444008
Thanks dude!

>>732443862
Rosebudd Squarepants

>>732444008
Exactly.
As long as they have reched the age of consent its fine.
Nothing wrong with the desire for fresh meat instead of well-done one.

>>732443862
Never goes away. I'm 47 and still get off to young girls

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>>732443862
Seriously. Look up the word paedophile. Paed..as in pediatric.. as in.. children, incapable of breeding.. that's what a pedo is.. guys who literally fuck children.

If you look at the evolutions of age of consent it's fluid as fuck. It exists for the time period that suits it. 16 year olds now are intellectually / emotionally younger because of their upbringing and society so it's not morally ok to fuck them.. but 50 years ago they would be adults and looking after kids by now. So yeah..look but don't touch until society reflects their age more accurately

It's alright man. It's just your head. It's hard to exclude female features without excluding the female features. Plus it's hard to decide when you hit 18 to blank your sexual experience.
Just don't hurt people.

>>732443862
And rest assured as Long as you're not total beta and hideous you can hook up with them. It happened to me by accident but then once it did that particular highschool girl informed me that quite a few girls in the school are fucking older men. It's the age when girls are at their sexual peak of curiousity and the "boys" from school just don't really do it for them. For he record first one was 15 and I was 28. But also had several after that until about 33.

from an evolutionary perspective there's nothing wrong with finding fertile girls attractive. If you don't find girls of child bearing capacity attractive then you are probably gay.

Its society that's fuck up.

>>732443862
you and i were pretty much the same, so i dated one, been living with her for 2 years now, she preg. she's 20 and im 31.. i have a good carreerd and she studies being midwife, god had spoken

No, you should accept it

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>>732443862
it's normal.

>>732446690
i died, i could cum to this........

20 years ago girls didn't look 20 when they were 14 and the internet has really fucked up this. Good news irl teenagers are pretty fucking annoying and easy to spot.

OP if it is bothering you, maybe socialize more. You'll find that if you meet a few of them more often, they start looking like children. If they don't I wouldn't recommend help, but do isolate the yourself. There isn't thought police yet, but the real police should beat the fuck out of you.

>>732443862
Dikke tetten

>>732443862
If you're only sexually attracted to a highly specific age range it's called Paraphilia. What kind of Paraphilia depends on the age range you're exclusive to.

If you, like me, like girls like the pic but also like women all the way up their early 40's, you don't suffer from a Paraphilia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

>>732445460
It's true, I fucked a 17 year old for months when I was 25. Luckily the age of consent in my state is 16 so it's all on the level for me.

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>>732446690

let it all out...

>>732443862
Your clearly evil.

But back in reality.. you go through puberty and become attracted to the girls around you who are teens too. It's normal to always be physcally attracted to teens. What does society think happens that says teens suddenly become ugly and physcally unattractive for you at a certain age. Quit listening to the media.

>>732448978
fuck me
more pls

>>732448978
insta/ name?

I'm 29, turn 30 in two months.
My long term girlfriend is 18. Met her when she was 15. Moved in together a few weeks ago.

It's kinda funny, up until the 17th century any attractive teen would already be married and have kids by the age of 16.
Now suddenly it's a horrible crime if a man even looks at a busty, hot teen in her prime.

>>732448978
fucking sauce

>>732445204
I cringe every time i read retarded shit like the optimal age formulas or what you said. If you can get an underage girl to love you there's absolutely nothing wrong with your relationship period

>>732443862
This is normal until you start spending your time at high schools and deluding yourself about "how mature" young girls are these days

in 1930, american life expectancy was only 59 years. so 15, literally was todays 20. 16 is a womans sexual prime. dont worry about it. thats when they reach their best. its all downhill even before they become, "adults"....

One problem, you're going to have to be on the lamb? With her? Where are you gonna find that hypothetical girl?

>>732448978
fucking source already faggot

>>732449874
>calls her underage
>claims there's nothing wrong with it.

Either she's underage, or there's nothing wrong. Which is it? And how underage? You realize it's not difficult to get a 15 yo to fuck You when you have a job (money) a place of your own, a car, or alcohol. Anyone with any amount of sense can see people go after younguns and know they probably couldn't date anyone their own age because they're still mentally a child.

Teens are easy pickins. Try upping the difficulty, easymode faggots.

>>732450060
>16 is a womans sexual prime.


Lol actually it's closer to 30, dumbass.I

Trying to have a child at 16 can create complications for the mom as well as the child. Sure she CAN have children, but her body isn't fully ready for it.

Pedophilia - kids. Nope, not allowed or in any way acceptable.
Hebephilia - roughly around age of pubescence, so 11-14. Still not acceptable for anyone who is too different in age range themselves.
Ephebophilia - roughly around the ages of 16-19. Waa hay! Perfectly normal to lust after them. Of course we live in an age of civilisation, and laws, so you might need to balance risk versus reward if you want to act on your lust. However, I wouldn't begin to worry about your state of mind should you be wondering what a 16-year old bit of pussy would feel like wrapped around your dick.

>>732450357
Underage doesn't automatically make it wrong. A 40 and 14 year old? That's not right. A 12 year old and 16 year old? That can be fine.

>>732450357
>Either she's underage, or there's nothing wrong. Which is it?
Both retard

>You realize it's not difficult to get a 15 yo to fuck You when you have a job (money) a place of your own, a car, or alcohol
Yea if you are financially secure and have some social status you can easily pick teens, so?

>Teens are easy pickins
Well don't bother with them then, I will though

>>732450511
>this whole post

>>732450511
It's actually 40 not 30

>>732450649
>A 40 and 14 year old? That's not right
So assuming that the 14 year old is in love with the 40 year old, what's bad about it?

>>732450779
Mind you, if you're a male it is alllllll downhill from the age of 18.

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Completely normal

>>732450649
>A 12 year old and 16 year old?

In this case, I would be leaning towards the 16 yo is taking advantage. That's a huge difference in maturity. And 16 yo will have more sexual desires than the other.

Would you let your 12 yo daughter date Sven who just got his drivers license?

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>ITT: Over the hill beta white males who can't do better than confused children or sandniggers that are following Muhammmmmmmaadddd

>>732450849
No, they're headed towards menopause by their kid 40s, and having children after 40 creates similar complications to having children before 16

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>>732450849
Her underdeveloped brain?

You could easily make a toddler beg for cock and do laundry as well

>>732450849
I was going to say the 40 year old has too much power over someone so young, but then I remembered the recent story of a 53 year old man and a 15 year old girl who fell in love. 18 years later they're still together and in love.

I dunno, I still think a lot of guys would exploit a girl hat young.

>>732450981
Yes I love me some HOT MATURE 40 year old MILFS in their prime right bois? FUCK teens
TEENS SUCK YEA

#teamsandyvagina

>>732451143
She was exploited, arrested development and a shit situation don't mean that girl was or could be ready, she's lucky and u no it, and even still possibly a gold digger

>>732451143
>I was going to say the 40 year old has too much power over someone so young
So what? Why does power=bad? It's only bad if you abuse it. You can be a great mentor if you want to

>>732451131
>You could easily make a toddler beg for cock and do laundry as well
see above

>having children after 40 creates similar complications to having children before 16
only for women

>>732451143
>I dunno, I still think a lot of guys would exploit a girl hat young.
So you're not against power imbalance but just people who abuse it?

>>732451355
>dating a 14 yo because you have a position of authority (i.e. Being an adult)
>not abusing your power to fuck a 14 yo.

Totally

>>732451355
No u sick fuck, just because she's happy doesn't mean it's ok, her brain is washed af, just because he did it without causing obvious harm doesn't mean she's not been harmed

>>732451505
What if i love her and plan on staying with her? How is that abuse if she wants the same you retard?

>>732451524
>happy doesn't mean it's ok
What?

> just because he did it without causing obvious harm doesn't mean she's not been harmed
top fucking kek
>th-there's no evidence it exists but i'm sure it exists

>>732451351
>possibly a gold digger

Lol..... Are you being serious?

>>732451351
>still possibly a gold digger
they're on benefits and she'd get even more money thrown at her if she left him.

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>>732443862
>teenage

>>732451683
Why would you become hiding illegal residents of the world? Do you think that can last, in here or in heaven? What girl wants that anyway?

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>>732451823
no idea what you're trying to say

>>732451683
Girls don't know what they want to begin with. And when you flash your adult lifestyle to a kid, of course they think they want that. Why wouldn't they? That's all most kids want is to be an adult, and you take advantage of that by offering a slice.

My question here is... Where do you meet 14 yos besides at the mall or some shit? Lol what self-respecting adult is going to go to a teen hangout spot to pick up chicks?

>>732451912
That she couldn't love you.

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>>732451683
>th-there's no evidence it exists but i'm sure it exists
>just because harm cannot be quantified in an absolute and discrete manner I should be able to do what I want

top fucking kek to you too - man you pedophiles are delusional.

>>732451946
>Girls don't know what they want to begin with
Well than as the more intelligent person in the relationship i will decide what's best. What's the problem? What if her parents approve of our relationship?


>>732451990
>That she couldn't love you.
What? Are you saying teens are incapable of falling in love with adults? That's more than just retarded

>>732452005
>just because harm cannot be quantified in an absolute and discrete manner I should be able to do what I want
That's a shit argument. If you claim something exists - provide evidence or shut the fuck up.

>>732449517
damn

>>732452005
Not the same fag here, but seducing a 14 year-old does not make you a pedophile. 14 year-old girls are well into adolescence.

Regardless of that, if too people make each other happy, who really gives a fuck about debating the ethics endlessly.

You can say the power balance is wrong, but literally all human interactions involve a power dynamic - that doesn't have to be an ethical problem. Stop living in a politically correct libtard dream world where unequal always means unethical.

Legally speaking, a line has to be drawn because there is obviously high *potential* for exploitation and abuse. But there's no ethical reason why a hypothetical 40 year-old and hypothetical 14 year-old couldn't make each other happy.

>>732451990
Not if you have to shun society to hide your relationship.

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>>732452241
>all these assumptions you expect us to believe so you can speculate
>not giving benefit of the doubt to the entire field of trauma suffered by children sexually abused

wew pedologic.io

>>732443862
Totally natural bro

>>732445204
16 is legal here and you are capable of consent and 'breeding' at 16

>>732443862
>I'm a guy in my early thirthies but I still get a huge boner from teenage girls and fantasies about them while I jerk of.
the only thing people care to know
1] do you have porn with these teenage girls
2] and why aren't you sharing

>>732452608
We're not talking about children but about teens you dumb fuck

>all these assumptions you expect us to believe so you can speculate
What assumptions you mong?

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what about 12 year olds?

>>732452241
>Well than as the more intelligent person in the relationship i will decide what's best. What's the problem?
>as the more intelligent person in the relationship i will decide what's best.
>not taking advantage of an authoritative position

Jesus Christ the mental gymnastics you do to justify your degeneracy is laughable.

If the parents approve, they're retarded, insane or both and are not fit to be parents. And I'm sure you'd be first in line to "fight for custody"

>>732452835
>not taking advantage of an authoritative position
What's bad about taking advantage of your power? Parents take advantage of their power you cunt. Power isn't bad if you use it for good.

>If the parents approve, they're retarded, insane or both and are not fit to be parents. And I'm sure you'd be first in line to "fight for custody"
that's not an argument

>>732452442
What about when she became an adult and loses her boyish figure. Why start a healthy lasting relationship with someone that is going to change vastly over the next 4 years? For the chance to mold them into the person you want them to be?

>>732452963
>taking advantage
>for good

Choose one

And what's good for the goose (you) is not always good for the gander (her).

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>>732452442

But we need to debate ethics. 14 is closer to 12 than 12 is to 18, you are really reaching if you are trying to cherrypick the rare 14 year old who understands.

Appealing to the lowest common denominator is not an argument. Debasement is not an argument. It is not being politically incorrect it is bad logic and argument.

>too people

son learn to spell.

No girl wants to go on the lamb with a pedo he couldn't protect her against the world... and she could never see it.

>>732452963
>that's not an argument

And neither is "what if her parents approve?"

If they approve they're sick. And if story. They should be jailed and taken to court and the kid should go live with her grandparents.

This thread is infested with normies
Peace out.

>>732453046
>For the chance to mold them into the person you want them to be?
Yes, literally raise your wife before social media and kikes corrupt her

>>732453160
>taking advantage
>for good
I choose both you cretin. When your parents raised you they used their power over you (i hope) for good. How is that bad?

>And what's good for the goose (you) is not always good for the gander (her).
>everyone is inherently selfish
wew


>>732453328
>And neither is "what if her parents approve?"
No dumbass. If her parents approve that instantly negates your "she doesn't know what's best for herself" point. Because if parents don't know what's best for their child then who the fuck does? You?

>>732453195
>>too people
>son learn to spell.

That's a grammatical error, but I understand your frustration

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>>732445204
The human brain keeps developping until the age of 21, so that's the age people are fully mature.
Yes, people can have children as early as 16, but we aren't mudslimes or torafags so we do not have to build our society around the idea that women are nothing, but farmstock for breeding.
We used to do this, because we were heavily influenced by the torafags who marry their youngins off at the age 15, but we're our own people now.

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>>732452821
>wh-what if parents approve?
>wh-what if I'm more intelligent to decide what's best?
>wh-what if they are in love?
>wh-what if I love her and p-plan on staying with her?

None of these are true. None of these could ever be true in the real world and hold successfully. But whatever let's humor the pedofiles delusion. Silly pedo learn to watch the way you think.

>>732453451
Parents don't always knows what's best for their child. some parents are insane. some pare us are Casey Anthony.

I hope you never have children. Because you are one of those unfit people. You'd probably end up fucking your own kid because "papa knows best"

So no, it's not an argument.

>>732443862
I married a 21 year old when I was 32. She had 2 kids and is still hot and 25. There are reasons to want younger girls, biological reasons.

>>732453451
>When your parents raised you they used their power over you (i hope) for good

When you raise children, you don't reign your power over them. Having a position of power and using it are two different things. Using your position for personal gain is yet another thing not to be confused with the first two.

You wanting to use your power (adult lifestyle) for personal gain (14 yo pussy) is the abusive nature of this situation.

>>732453471
They say 25 or so now....

Or that's just what insurance and car rental companies want you to think.

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>My room is just up here anon

>>732444578

Craving a burger now :/

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>>732452830
>>732454042
>wanting your loli to look older

>>732453128
Lost

>>732453599
>None of these are true. None of these could ever be true in the real world and hold successfully
So you don't have an argument and you just decided to knock all of the chess pieces like a pigeon


>>732453640
>Parents don't always knows what's best for their child
So what? Does that mean all decisions parents make are bad? Why can't their decision to let their daughter be with me be a thought out decision made in the interests of their daughter? Why are you saying they have to be insane to make it?


>>732453908
>When you raise children, you don't reign your power over them
What the fuck do you mean? Of course you do dumbass.

>You wanting to use your power (adult lifestyle) for personal gain (14 yo pussy) is the abusive nature of this situation.
strawman, that's not what I want. I want a long-term relationship

>>732443862
>plays
place

>jerk of
jerk off

>except
accept

and yeah, totally natural. naked teen selfies are literally the pinnacle of eroticism in many peoples opinion.

>>732446690
>all that food

I'd bet money she ate a few bites from each item and through the rest away.

>>732451683
Ik bait but want to reinforce the fact that
people who can't control their urges to move onto someone so obviously unaware are also creating a person equally toxic to them in terms of preventing her from developing grey matter to receive the proper neurotransmitters later in life to feel emotions in general. Someone in such a traumatized position ALWAYS has a level of psychosis, usually to a degree that would be obvious to anyone.

She may only come off a little strange, or neurotically obsessed with mundane tasks unknowingly feeding a monster of whatever emotional disorder that happens to be repressed.

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>>732454277
you think being a pedo is as complex as chess. It's not.

You just make all these assumptions and expect us to not question or alter them, then you have the audacity to dismiss the very real assumptions about the power dynamics and safety of the child which are a lot more valid and real than your mentally ill musings.

Oh pedofile you can't even argue well.

>>732443862

You are human, it's natural.

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>>732454218

>wanting bony small people

>>732443862
Stop it! Get some help!

>>732454690
>You just make all these assumptions
Those aren't assumptions dummy. Assumption is when you don't know what something is and you guess what it could be. I laid out several scenarios for you as you put it
>wh-what if parents approve?
>wh-what if I'm more intelligent to decide what's best?
>wh-what if they are in love?
>wh-what if I love her and p-plan on staying with her?
evaluate them
I take it if all of those were true you wouldn't have any problem with that particular case of a teen-adult relationship is that correct?

>Oh pedofile you can't even argue well.
How so? You are the one that ignored the scenario I laid out for you and instead of evaluating it you just went "lalalla that can't happen lalala i can't hear you"
You are the one that can't argue here

>>732454690
But did we baited

>>732443862
How old are we talking about? You say teenage girls do you mean 17-19? Or jailbait pedo shit?

>>732455112

>>732453128
>>732452830

>>732453128
lol

>>732455044
See, for it to be legit I'd need ongoing brainscans, otherwise, the plausible deniability and the fact that all'good'cases where mental shit can't be detected and seems ok are literally all after brain development ages. Otherwise the bullshit case of you know a guy doesn't really hold against fact checkable shit

>>732454924

>wanting fake people

>>732455277
Have you heard about burden of proof? If you claim something is bad it's up to you to prove it.

>>732451150
yep, the age directly after 19 is 40. That's how it works.

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>>732455329

looks real to me

>>732455044
Literally you're taking the troll argument for this. If you were serious you'd point out the fact that current standards for adults are changing to 25 and recent and ongoing changes to related laws worldwide. But of course then we'd remind you of how science and facts show why those laws need changing and the specific damage of general emotional immaturity to individuals who shouldn't be in relationships in general.

I'm 52 and I cum to kids under 10 all the time. Nothing wrong with admiring the female form.

>>732455379
Yes that's why i mentioned brainscans dumbfuck

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>>732448151
How very summer of you.

>>732455537
Yea, then go make some brainscans and until then you don't have an argument against that type of relationship

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>>732455044
Again, those assumptions are highly unlikely. No need to go into conniptions. I am not the only one in the thread who thinks so. But we are humoring the delusion. Someone once told me "That's a shit argument. If you claim something exists - provide evidence or shut the fuck up."

I won't evaluate shit until you acknowledge that trauma could potentially occur even if I don't have evidence. Because you obviously have no evidence for your lalala that can't happen lalala I want to fuck children.

>>732455663
Called mris nigga, there's already studies about the exact correlation i mentioned, it is in grey matter and how they reicieve neurotransmitters. Essentially depending what age and point in their maturity they get what i said before, arrested development. Everything will seem fine, but in reality the child typically grows up unable to take care of themselves fully.

>>732455716
>Again, those assumptions are highly unlikely
Yea OK but if all of them check out would you be ok with that relationship or not? I'm not arguing for ALL types teen-adult relationships, so don't strawman me

>I won't evaluate shit until you acknowledge that trauma could potentially occur even if I don't have evidence
Irrelevant. Russia could potentially be controlling Trump. That doesn't mean he could be impeached just because there's a possibility of that.

>Because you obviously have no evidence
Burden of proof. It's not up to me to find evidence in this case. Prove that Russia didn't buy Trump or he gets impeached. Not how it works

>>732456030
>there's already studies about the exact correlation i mentioned
go fetch then

>>732456075
It does mean he could be impeached. Will and could aren't interchangeable you fucking troll

>>732456075
>doesn't mean he could be
i meant *should

>>732456162
>>732456189

>>732456074

With a face like that it's a good thing she's got big tits.

>>732444008
/thread

Embrace it, bro

>>732456074
any more?

>>732456132
Idk why I'd expect a 4chantroll to know basic psychology

>>732456426
http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_the_teen_brain_transforms_relationships forgot this

>>732456455
It's "brain changes transform relationships" NOT "relationships transform the brain" retard.
How's this even relevant?

You also said
>Essentially depending what age and point in their maturity they get what i said before, arrested development
Where in your article does it say that shit nigger?

>>732446690
Super hot
>>732448978
I don't find her attractive though.

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>>732456075
None of those would check out. Not only for me but most of the civilized world's legal system too. Reaching. I can't help you with your delusions.

>Irrelevant
>Burden of proof

There are entire fields of professional study from neuroscience to psychiatry to psychology to sociology that have long and storied evidence that support the position. This isn't a conspiracy done through espionage. It's science. Read. Learn.

>Trump analogies

oh.. was i just trolled...

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>>732456381

>>732456791
>None of those would check out. Not only for me but most of the civilized world's legal system too. Reaching. I can't help you with your delusions.
Yea but if they would, would you be ok with that? Yes or no? Answer it faggot, it's simple

>There are entire fields of professional study from neuroscience to psychiatry to psychology to sociology that have long and storied evidence that support the position. This isn't a conspiracy done through espionage. It's science. Read. Learn.
[citation needed]

>Trump analogies
To show what burden of proof is to your stupid ass

>>732456963
>but if they would
*were

>>732456638
Honestly it shouldn't have to, you're just too fucking stupid to put two and two together but here's this, now i know i have the burden of proof but I'm done feeding a troll so just take a guess at my argument for me and i might stay itt https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/surviving-your-childs-adolescence/200910/arrested-development-when-teen-runs-responsibility%3Famp

>>732456963
>your
*you're

>>732456832
thanks man.
she is beautiful.

>>732443862
If they date you for easy access to alcohol. They probably aren't ready.

>>732457143
>i don't have evidence so just take my word for it and find it yourself
Is this nigger serious?
And why did you link that article? Where does it say that teen-adult relationships lead to arrested development?
Fuck you're one dense motherfucker

>>732457173
>>732456963
>>732456638
Samefag needa get better at trolling b4 thread dies

>>732456189
If that's what you meant 1 you're stupid for arguing opinion 2 that's like the40th grammar error troll harder faggot

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>>732457323
Xd nigga read the article. Afterwards realize that brain development continues up to age 25 and potentially beyond. You have a good argument you aren't even using u shit ass troll bro fucking summerfags pic relate

>>732453471

I know many people who's brains stopped maturing at 11 so that point is invalid

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>two pedos would rather bicker than post pics
the new /b/
>mfw

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>>732443862

>>732457394
>you're stupid for arguing opinion
What? It's not about opinions. It's about burden of proof. If you claim something is harmful and there needs to be action taken against it you should provide the evidence for it.

>>732457523
>Xd nigga read the article. Afterwards realize that brain development continues up to age 25 and potentially beyond.
So what? Where does it say that relationships with adults damage the brain or what the fuck are you even implying with that?

>>732457577
post them then

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>>732457557
Let's see his mris faggot

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>>732457557
This was meant in terms of biology, fucking retard.
You might think that these people display adult behavior, but that's not the same as actually being an adult.

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>>732456963
none of them check out. Impossibility. Delusions. I don't have opinions on the alien city in my bathroom because it cannot exist. The opinion is moot because of the delusion. What is concerning is actions taken based on that delusion. And I am not ok with delusion. So No. You go straight to jail, no pass, no collecting $200.

>[citation needed]
Read bits of the DSM, especially to do with trauma and resulting disorders. They do a good loop back to causes - sexual or otherwise.

That's as much legwork as I will do. You do the rest.

>to show what burden of proof is

that was badly done. Again, there is no conspiracy against pedos. You're just mentally ill.

In the middle ages people would ask witch catchers to "test" them to prove that they weren't witches and make them feel better than themselves. They invariably ended up at the stake.

Moral of the story is, while you might believe society holds all the answers, in truth it does not. If you feel that something is wrong, then it is. If not, then not.

>>732457613
You've proved it 10 times over, you're either trolling, or the exact problem with why there's an age of consent where it is.

There's no good way to police this other than the way we attempt to. The brain in the past has been thought to mature @18, now shool is non mandatory after 18 and most rights are earned then. The pedo part of this is literally unimportant. People can and do become arrested development for mundane things. Takes a pretty optimal setting to raise what science would deem a healthy brain, and the age of 'susceptibility', while unanimously above 21, is arbitrary in nearly Every country for nearly Every case where law presses against these young people's ability to fuck up.

im 17 i can legally fuck a 14 year old and i would. imo as long as the person u are jerking of too is in there puberty or past puberty u are not a pedophile but if u like them young rllllly young u should consider urself a pedophile or atleast you have the tendence to be one

>>732457986
>none of them check out. Impossibility. Delusions. I don't have opinions on the alien city in my bathroom because it cannot exist.
You're shitting me right? What's impossible about a teen falling in love with an adult and her parents approving of it?


>Read bits of the DSM, especially to do with trauma and resulting disorders. They do a good loop back to causes - sexual or otherwise.
Provide the links to studies retard. Saying "my proofs are out there" isn't a proof
>That's as much legwork as I will do. You do the rest.
So no evidence then. Figures

>>732458236
You're the problem. People only care about what might happen if they're caught. You y we need laws fagthx

>>732458167
>The pedo part of this is literally unimportant
Then who gives a shit? We're talking about teen-adults relationships, not arrested development you shithead

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>>732449673
Thank the feminists for that one. If everyone is chasing the teens in their prime, who will want the crazy cat ladies?

>>732458267
How can u ask that and dispute the articles fgt like it outright is common knowledge among educated niggas that kids don't know what love is, and humans tend to be kids until age 21-25 like how u having fun trolling so shittily

>>732458437
>common knowledge
That's not evidence niggerfaggot. Provide evidence or go fuck yourself

>and humans tend to be kids until age 21-25
And why can't teens be in relationships with adults again?

>>732458421
I'm saying kids arent ready for minute aspects of their lives like buying alcohol therefore why do you think there should even be a discussion about this.

>>732458565
>like buying alcohol therefore why do you think there should even be a discussion about this
Because alcohol damages your brain
How is a romantic relationship related to that in any way?

>>732458526
You can't quote one line of a sentence i pulled mostly from an article i already shared you shit 18 year old summerfaggot troll at least convince me fuck

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>>732458267
>Provide the links to studies retard

It's the DSM. Everyone knows the DSM. Anyone who has any passing knowledge of Mental disorders.

>>732449673
and people who bring up this argument fail to mention the average life expectancy of the time...

>>732458641
The heart of the troll lol fuk u buddy already told u intense emotions aren't 4 kids. Same for unsafe sex and most other bullshit that goes with a relationdhip. What happened to the guy you know, is his girl really normal?

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>>732458565

yes you need to be 21 to buy alcohol but at 12 you can own a gun that kills pepole

>murrica logic

>>732458656
So i'm asking again
>why can't teens be in relationships with adults again?

>>732458661
>everyone knows where my proofs at
ahahahahh get a load of this guy
Post links to studies with your proofs I don't care what "everyone" knows

>>732458773
>already told u intense emotions aren't 4 kids
Why?

>Same for unsafe sex and most other bullshit that goes with a relationdhip
Safe sex it is then. Problem solved

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>>732458812
They have the 5th version now. DSM-5. By the American Psychiatric Association.

>>732458667
Wtf u literal retardwe didn't evolve to change life expectancy at all. World records for eldest people are almost same, access to healthcare and constant food does that. Feel like I'm actually next to some depressed fat 26 year old who thinks he's enjoying a lul

>>732458792
That's simply not true wtf

>>732458978
>There are entire fields of professional study from neuroscience to psychiatry to psychology to sociology that have long and storied evidence that support the position
PROOFS that support your position that teens become mentally damaged from relationships with adults
POST THEM NIGGERFAGGOT

>>732458867
I've already given u more than enough to figure this out. Kids optimally shouldn't be allowed in relationships at all imo it's the western impatience and arrogance that has us where we are socially, putting adults in there is just asking for abuse

>>732450949
topkek

>>732453471
Actually it's more like till the age of 25. There's some evidence that things get better even past that age though.

>>732459193
>I've already given u more than enough to figure this out
You gave me nothing you fag. Where's the evidence that a teen's brain get damaged from a romantic relationship WHERE IS IT

>>732459163
There are posts with evidence that teens can't handle simple things like feeding themselves or keeping a job. Have you ever been in a relationship?

>>732450949
Did a libertarian bang your gf?

>>732455476
>Literally you're taking the troll argument for this. If you were serious you'd point out the fact that current standards for adults are changing to 25 and recent and ongoing changes to related laws worldwide. But of course then we'd remind you of how science and facts show why those laws need changing and the specific damage of general emotional immaturity to individuals who shouldn't be in relationships in general.
The opposite should be happening though. Humans have always had relationships at a fairly young age. If you have to wait until everything on you stops developing then you've already missed a large chunk of life.

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>>732459163
the DSM als has a DSM Sourcebook. They cover their sources that you want. They have the statistics and modes of diagnosis.

>>732459294
>There are posts with evidence that teens can't handle simple things like feeding themselves or keeping a job
OK how does that equate to mental damage from a relationship? Why is it inherently bad? As the more intelligent person in the relationship you can guide them to be a better person which invalidates your position altogether

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>>732459070

lol where do you get your murrica facts? at 12 you can own a rifle. at 18 a handgun. a bottle of beer you can only buy at 21.

>>732455716
>I won't evaluate shit until you acknowledge that trauma could potentially occur even if I don't have evidence. Because you obviously have no evidence for your lalala that can't happen lalala I want to fuck children.
Trauma can and does occur on people of all ages engaging in intimate relations.

>>732458311
We're protected and enslaved by our laws yes. Humans will never be truly free because they don't deserve it. Bad shit happens.

>>732459450
>As the more intelligent person in the relationship

because the adult always thinks with his brain, and not his throbbing pedocock

>>732459442
Post quotes and excerpts from there that prove your position

>>732456791
>None of those would check out. Not only for me but most of the civilized world's legal system too. Reaching. I can't help you with your delusions.
Most of the civilized world is 15 or below. It's the US that's stuck in religious lala-land.

>>732459512
>because the adult always thinks with his brain, and not his throbbing pedocock
So in cases that the adult is responsible and not abusive you would be ok with it right?

>>732459294
I don't wanna mingle too much in the conversation but the same applies to adults.

>>732459450
That mentality is parental, not partner, one of the main issues with this idea. They simply can't handle complex or intense emotions, and prolonged or negative emotions. Maybe my words are too big. The stress of normal things like cooking, cleaning, going to school, in general tend to create problems that unaddressed, regularly come up on the news in the form of crime. Relationships aren't bad inherently, but at that age they're too much intermittent stress for the brain to develop properly

>>732459711
This is the thing I always find funny about these conversations. One side seems to think that adults are smart, always make great decisions, can never be emotionally hurt etc.

Look at the average voter. Half of them are dumber than that.

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>>732459531
no they provide the sources where the quotes and excerpts are so you have to loop back like I said. The DSM has the loop back.

>>732459618
>pedo
>responsible and not abusive
pick only one

>>732459469
No, you can be given a gun but can't use it at all without parents, and still legally if disputed in court a child has never won their property much less a gun. There's too much that has to be done by adults to say 12 year olds can have guns.

NOONE CARES WHO'S ANY VALUE HIGHER THAN ANYONE ELSE.

No-one can evade the whole of the world and promise to keep a girl safe, in this world. Or any world, if it's illegal. So the girl doesn't want it. If you stay alive, she can't. If she stays alive, you can't.

>>732459798
>That mentality is parental, not partner, one of the main issues with this idea. They simply can't handle complex or intense emotions, and prolonged or negative emotions. Maybe my words are too big. The stress of normal things like cooking, cleaning, going to school, in general tend to create problems that unaddressed, regularly come up on the news in the form of crime. Relationships aren't bad inherently, but at that age they're too much intermittent stress for the brain to develop properly
So, are you saying that up until this point in history all the kids grew up with underdeveloped brains? Because I'm pretty sure most kids had relationships before their brains fully matured. In fact, it's very uncommon that somebody has not had relationships before their brain fully matures.

>>732459848
A large portion of the DSM is mostly just guesswork. Look at all the drama surrounding something like ADHD.

>>732459798
>They simply can't handle complex or intense emotions
[citation needed]

>The stress of normal things like cooking, cleaning, going to school, in general tend to create problems that unaddressed, regularly come up on the news in the form of crime
How does a stable loving relationship the same as this


>>732459848
>here's a terrabyte of information go find it
Post them here or fuck off
>>732459876
Non-argument, besides everyone is attracted to teens. So that means everyone is a pedo

>>732459848
Bullshit man admit that you don't understand how neurotransmitters, biological maturity, and behavior are linked despite multiple links to detailed articles fucking idiot

>>732460099
>How does a st
*is

>>732460099
No pedos ask if they're single. Adults laugh at kids in relationships in general

>>732445204
15 is age of consent over here

>>732460160
>Bullshit man admit that you don't understand how neurotransmitters, biological maturity, and behavior are linked
Nobody does. Anybody that claims they do is lying. Our understanding of the brain is not advanced enough to understand how they're properly linked. We have some correlations and some guesswork on causation. That's it. This is why your psychiatrist can give you different drugs for depression for 2 years and still not get it right.

www.pscp.tv/w/1ypKdrMVporJW

>>732443862
It's normal. If you find yourself gawking at real-life teenagers, or making specific plans to hook up with one, then get help. The embarasssment you will experience in therapy doesn't require you to register as a sex offender, after all.

Signed,
A guy who once fantasized about asking his wife to place an ad on Craigslist letting anyone who wanted to use him sexually in anyway they wanted.

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>>732460099
the DSM is a book lol it wouldn't be a terabyte wtf do you even know how big a terabyte is?

Also you can search things easily on it but like I said they cite so you can follow the citations back to the studies. Spoonfed.

>>732460260
>i don't know how it works but somehow i concluded that relationships are bad for teens take my word for it, we should outlaw them
wew some fine logic there

>>732460352
>Also you can search things easily on it but like I said they cite so you can follow the citations back to the studies. Spoonfed.
Well search then and post it here nigger. Until then you have no evidence

>>732443862
>except it
American detected

>>732459951

I had a rifle at 12. There is nothing to debate here. My son will get his at 12 too.

If you stepped in my house he can kill you with it. Legally.

Not sure where you are getting at.

>>732460538
The fact that you bought him the rifle faggot, and he can't take it places like adults.

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>>732460461
>Well search then and post it here nigger

well if you search the DSM they give you the studies. But then you need to find the studies and their dissertations after that. I'm pretty sure the DSM is free or can be found freely but idk about the studies.

>>732460882
>it's out there
I don't care if it's not there or not
Find quotes from that book that support your position or fuck off. It's that simple.
Nobody is going to read a whole fucking book here right now

>>732460656

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Try English.

>>732460457
>Just because pharmaceutical companies don't know how to trigger them doesn't mean we don't have a very in-depth understanding of neurotransmitters.
It has nothing to do with triggering them. It's about what they do. We don't know what they do well enough to reason about it.

There's a study published 3 days ago that talks about things we didn't know about Noradernaline. And you're here trying to tell me that we have this all mapped out.

>wew some fine logic there
What the fuck are you on about? I just said that nobody knows how this shit works. I don't care about your shit.

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>>732461014
>Nobody is going to read a whole fucking book here right now

but that's the only way you will learn, you can't cherry pick the DSM silly pedo. You have to read entire studies. Besides its not an entire book its only studies.

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>tfw ywn teach a loli to shoot

>>732461014
Literally bullet 2 of that berklee article, 2-3 paragraphs is all you need but you deny the facts of teens susceptibility to emotion, fact, and the fact that relationships are intense emotionally, you're pushing all the facts off and ignoring half of them, like i said you're not a good troll

>>732461262
>you can't cherry pick the DSM
You can find statements that support your position in any wall of text retard


>>732461387
Link it

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>>732461529
>You can find statements that support your position in any wall of text retard

context tho

>>732461740
Learn2excerpt then. They have links to studies you said. Post the studies which prove their position at least
Your whole argument at this point is "go read this book it has my proofs"
Fuck off

>>732461928
Hot. How old?

I take it I won seeing as there's no proofs coming
noice

>>732461240
We know what is mentioned in the posted articles which is plenty to say current society has too loose of laws thread related. That being said laws probably won't even cut it, it's a matter of respect for growth, which we have mapped plenty to know again, that what is in the article is correct.

>>732461529
Can't wait until court when you don't lawyer up and don't understand what you're guilty of because the prosecution made up a bunch of fake science

>>732461928

muh dick

>>732462987
>it's a matter of respect for growth
How do relationships stunt growth you fag?

>>732463119
>the prosecution made up a bunch of fake science
They did.
What are you saying exactly? That the law is always right or something?

>>732463337
I'm saying you're a fucking idiot bro i hope you end up on drphil otherwise I may not going to lul at some random pedo somewhere in my YouTube machine

>>732463736
>loses argument
>resorts to name-calling
heh

My normie friends think it's alpha as fuck that I've had teenage girls give their numbers and act really slutty and attracted to me

>>732463806
>'wins' can't look at best porn without a series of security measures much less talk to preferred 'type' without committing a crime

Yeah I'm such a loser cause i like to know facts

>>732463878
Evidence they themselves aren't old enough to relationship

>>732463966
Sluts gonna slut. Teen girls go crazy for a huge dick, more than anyone else, their hormones are going crazy and they are at the peak of their fertility

>>732463912
>'wins' can't look at best porn without a series of security measures much less talk to preferred 'type' without committing a crime
yea that's a lot of assumptions

>facts
What facts? You didn't prove anything itt
NO PROOFS
post studies or something tangible already

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>>732443862
>except
Not sure if you should kys, or if it's a bait

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those juicy young thighs

>>732464163
those slip ups are natural and are no indication of intelligence, calm your shit nerdy faggot

>>732464038
>>732464079
I agree sluts gonna slut but they're gonna be extremely vulnerable, it's 100% non justifiable other than impulse and nature, and this guy has the worse argument going against the only facts present, like you could argue it's the kid's decision all day government oversteps but then you border over the top libertarian. But this nigga just trollin

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>>732464451
>and this guy has the worse argument going
My argument is that you don't have any evidence for your claims.
You're basically saying that ALL relationships between adults and teens lead to stunted development and mental damage which is absolutely retarded and baseless

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why are boys becoming sluts?

>>732464711
Don't put words in my mouth just because you didn't read them. I'm saying the risk of developmental stirring isn't worth there being any relationships for underage people in general, and the evidence I've given is plenty to support this, but you're like uh duhh she seems happy totally not refuting the actual many cases of sexual abuse leading to people being fucked up, so at the very least, what is your age of consent

>>732464451
It's just nature for men to be attracted to nubility, and for women to be attracted to the masculinity and dominance of a grown man. The vast majority of men are. Women are at prime time for having babies at 16-20

>>732465204
But even if a girl is close to 16 but not quite there yet, she is nearing her absolute prime, so of course it's perfectly normal instinct to want to claim her as your own at that time

just don't do anything do to them and only jerk off to drawings and you should be fine.

>>732465204
Evidence on all of that you fucking freak none of this is normal to anyone i know. If anything it sounds like you are in fact controlled by your emotions and urges, thus either a kid yourself, or arrested development grown up. did someone touch u n u liked it so u start thread?

>>732465488
t. nu male

>>732465141
>the risk of developmental stirring
And why would there be a "developmental stirring" if it's a responsible consensual relationship?
Where do you get this assumption that there's a risk? What's your proof of the risk? Show it

>and the evidence I've given is plenty to support this
What evidence? Point exactly where it says "ALL relationships between teens and adults lead to mental problems" and the studies behind the claim. There is none

>totally not refuting the actual many cases of sexual abuse leading to people being fucked up
Those are rapes not consensual relationships. Provide proof that teens get fucked up after relationships with adults. That's right there is none because you are one deluded retard

>>732443862
>Being attracted to young, attractive girls.
You obviously have some kind of mental issue.

In all seriousness though, kys you fucking autist.

>>732443862
>Date an old hag who's divorced with a qt 10 yo daughter with full custody
>Babysit daughter while mom is at work
>Sodomize said daughter to the highest degree in hopes that she cums like an aquafier and don't inform popo
>Wife dies, claim life insurance and move out to fuck middle of nowhere and sodomize future wife hourly with MDMA
Win win????

>>732465488
This is the kind of faggot that thinks grabbing girls by their pussy is horrible and sexist
Ignore this faggot
He obviously has no reproductive instincts and wants a used up feminists whore that doesn't breed at the correct time

>>732465691
win win my friend

>>732465488
>did someone touch u n u liked it so u start thread?
>liking teens means you were molested
it's time to stop posting

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>>732465084
because i prayed...
prayed real long...
prayed real hard...

Plenty of 14 year old girls that look 18 and plenty of 18 year old girls that look 14
Speaks for itself

>>732465722
>>732465579
Look here samefag, you quoted me out of context again. I have aloli folder too, young girls r leet tier hot, but only underdeveloped retard autism spectrum niggas be tryn for more than a hit and quit on teenagers. The only beauty about them is their body and u no it. Like some other person said, pedo or responsible partner, pick 1. If that evokes a why response please realize you are a degenerate and post your current occupation or whatever bullshit you think is cool

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>>732466156

>>732466156
This whole thread thinks you're a faggot, summercancer.

>>732465862
No, following thru and thinking laws about age of consent need changing is autistic, but I'm just being trolled so it's k

>>732466201
Backtracked same ip under vpn

>>732466156
>but only underdeveloped retard autism spectrum niggas be tryn for more than a hit and quit on teenagers
Why would a long-term relationship be degenerate? Men should be able to get themselve a qt before she's corrupted by kikes and has ridden Tyrone's and Chad's cocks

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>>732466257
Maybe you'll leave my thread lol

>>732466322
Like i said, pedo, or real relationship, kids ( under 21-25) can't have both. But you ignore facts so it's cool because they seem fine

Embrace pedophilia as it is a blessing and the goal of life. To breed with younger more hormonal girls. Don't believe in that Western media bullshit of marrying used up sluts.

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>>732466257
funny, bc im not a pedo and im all for this thread. dont give a fuck if someone molests a kid, dont care if the kids parents suck and have put them in that position

not my problem, dont care. but i do know if ppl could post cp on /b/ thered be a lotta funny gifs and memes (and maybe some fapp material)

>>732466509
> But you ignore facts
Your baseless statements aren't facts retard. You haven't proven any of your """"facts"""" see >>732465579

>>732466627
I've posted multiple links with detailed articles that explain why until up to 25 for some people, probably need help functioning as a member of society. If you had a real age you were sticking to i could see common ground, but you're going full libertarian anarchist in which case the better question is why do we have to abort or adopt to get rid of unwanted kids leeching off us, we can't just leave them around.

>>732466602
True. Meme want to CeCe me CP

>>732466982
>some people
Who cares about "some people"? There are some adults who can't function do we forbid all adult relationships now?

>I've posted multiple links with detailed articles
Answer the questions in >>732465579 faggot. Everything you've posted so far was irrelevan

>>732467254
>Do we forbid all adult relationships now?

Only when there's a known risk for the relationship to cause trouble socially, ie gay marriage until modern times

>facts are irrelevant

Multiple people told you not to cherry pick or be lazy and read if you actually wanna learn troll you're getting boring

>>732467597
>facts
How many times do i have to repeat for your retarded ass that baseless opinions aren't facts?
You refuse to answer these >>732465579. Why? Because you have nothing. No evidence. No proof. Nada

>Multiple people told you not to cherry pick or be lazy and read if you actually wanna learn troll you're getting boring
answer the fucking questions

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>>732467597
facts are irrelevant.
you will be assimilated.
resistance is futile.

>>732467597
>Multiple people told you not to cherry pick or be lazy and read if you actually wanna learn troll you're getting boring
Besides if you're talking about that book why can't you concisely summarize what it says? And prove it with studies? Surely it would be easy for you

>>732467780
Bro i agree sometimes it can be fine, but you throw that all in there and it changes everything. Our current society will, according to itself, generally suppress pedos, making the few known cases horrid. However the situation you describe of a 'healthy relationship' happening is so rare (under 21 much less 18) it's like being in tx in 1920 and being a flaming faggot; if the laws WERE on your side, you'd probably be beaten and killed.

>>732468007
I have u fuck you ask for citation and i gave u berklee go verify however u like.

>>732443862
How old is girl in the pic?

>>732468238
>Bro i agree sometimes it can be fine
Cool that's what I wanted to hear

>You'd probably be beaten and killed
If people approved of it like you just did then why would i be beaten and killed?


>but you throw that all in there and it changes everything
Throw what? Like normalizing abusive relationships? Or rape and coercion? That's not gonna happen you dumbass
>>732468330
>go find my proofs i'm too lazy to even summarize the book i've supposedly read
You know it's always up to you to bring information to the argument, just saying go read those books isn't gonna work you fucking homo

>>732468684
I gave you a summation, and told you where on the page the large expanded citation was. I was talking about the word all, i never said they're all bad. The only approval i give is admission that it could be ok but really that's case to case. Age and other details like both parties personality are key. However generally society just goes by clickbait when it comes to responding to social issues. There's too many too violently against it almost everywhere; if the laws changed in your favor, the sect of society intent on bashing your face would breed long into the next generations.

>>732443862
who cares

>>732469231
>that's case to case
Yea I agree. That was pretty much my point from the beginning

>There's too many too violently against it almost everywhere
Umm yea for now. But seeing as there's no rational argument against it it's only a matter of time until the public opinion changes

k i have to go now

>>732469231
>>732468684
But also there's scientific evidence to suggest that kids can't understand the emotions they would inevitably feel. Yes these emotions can be purely positive, but that is enough to cloud their future judgement, as explained in the first few sentences of the number 2 on the berklee link. This misinterpretation of their own emotions causes arrested development which as i said can seem perfectly fine, however if something changed in the relationship, maybe abuse after a few years in, the member of the relationship will then have no real way out depending on how developed their brain was before falling in love, something kids generally shouldn't do. This unfair advantage to the older person is why consent laws exist.