Republicans are the biggest threat to the world in human his

>>732288180

YLYL thread

>>732288283
prove him wrong, cousin fucker

>>732288180
its already too late, even if we decided to focus on global warming we are gonna die to it before we can even reverse it

Does Chomsky know that India and China exist?

>>732288180
>end all life on the planet.
lol thinking that unsuitable conditions for humans being built up over centuries is the same thing as nothing being able to live is about as politically retarded as it gets. Life existed for billions of years before us and will exist for billions more after we go extinct

>>732288460
>Does Chomsky know
The answer to all questions that follow these three words is "probably not"

>>732288600
they are the biggest threat to humans though, right?

>>732288180
I would say their childish behavior is more of a threat. People keep voting for them is the problem.
This is the end product of democracy... A country full of idiots.

>>732288460
>india and china deny climate change is a massive inescapable threat

do they tho?

>>732288180
Funny thing is, this is a bait thread that's unintentionally accurate.

>>732288899
my point is they are creating more damage to the climate the republicans ever could. also if it's a massive inescapable threat, then who cares if people deny it?

Sargon took the video out of context like a fucking retard.>>732289101

Everything is the West's fault!

>>732288180
>t. Old communist faggot

THERE IS ACTUALLY WAY MORE SCIENCE AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING.. But your gonna keep saying co2 causes global warming. Even thonice core sample indicate temperature rise causes co2 to rise.. And water vapor is a worse green house gas than co2.. But lets start with no global warming in 18 years

>>732289651
watche videos by potholer54 and realize how much of an idiot you really are.

>>732289651
well your post was pretty easy to refute, I'd LOVE to see your sources good lord

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

>>732288180
How is global warming real if earth isnt even a globe?

>looks at comment section
holy shit his fanbase is delusional. they will believe literally anything he says and never question it.

>>732288677
No that'd be disease

>>732290035
Im too lazy to post sites.. Just google "ice core samples showing co2 and temperature" and see for yourself... And the rate temperarures are rising, is kinda slow.. And your source says its bigly extreme.. Your source says its been an extreeme rise since the 1950s.. Its convienint they exclude the mini ice age after ww2.. Then they say the ocean has risen 1 foot in 100 years. How did they measure oceans before satellites? Watch the documentary "great global warming swindle" on youtube.. Have you ever even researched the opposing side? But i bet you dismiss the people who did.. Maybe you were taught that, because its an obvious lie? Global warming is real.. If there is climate change, its extremely exagerated..

>>732290035
Since Obama came to power, he destroyed NASA's programme for exploring space, going back to the moon and made NASA to be another agency for international communication and this is well documented. NASA being a government-funded agency doesn't make it reliable. Everything government run is a disaster. Start from schools, everyone wants to go to a private school, ever wonder why? What is a synonym for a community college? I am sure you can connect the dots.

>>732291328
>>732291399
https://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54/videos

>>732288180
this

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>>732289118
But India and China recognise the threat and want to do something about it, USA under Trump wants to accelerate fossil fuel use.

Look at his promises to coal miners.

I come from a coal mining community in the UK and hate Thatcher for what she did to us, but coal is unsustainable and if widely used will lead to irreversible damage to the climate.

>>732288180
I swear, ever since the election this board has been besieged by an alarming amount of tumblr shills. Please go back from whence you came.

>>732293981
>lead to irreversible damage to the climate
there already is.

>>732288180
Who gives a fuck about climate change. Do you honestly think humans can do anything about it even if we tried? We need to focus on artificial intelligence that will solve all of these complicated problems our stupid monkey brains can't. If they kill us who cares we tried. In summary, the human race is fucked anyway we look at it.

>>732288180
you may be correct, but chomsky is a senile old fool

>>732293981
>But India and China recognise the threat and want to do something about it
I'd love to see a source for this claim. China's cities are just fucking pollution holes at this point and somehow America is the problem.

Republicans don't even deny climate change.

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Listen up all you faggots cause im about to prove climate change isn't caused by humans.

Pic related, its Coruscant. A planet entirely consumed by buildings and people. There's no natural vegetation left on the planet. Has a population of about 2 trillion. Is everyone on Coruscant dead from climate change? No faggots, they are all happy af flying their gas guzzling cars, and living without a single tree.

Liberal faggots will deny this is real, but in the back of their minds they'll know. Just try to prove me wrong faggots. Inb4 Coruscant is a planet in a fictional story made up by some neckbeard.

>>732294636
look at how much China is investing in renewables!

Chinese cities are very polluted, yes, but their leaders recognise this as a problem and are seeking to solve this in the future.

Trump has literally said he wants more "clean coal" which cannot actually exist.


Climate change: China vows to defend Paris agreement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-39861589


The USA is literally the only country in the world now whose leadership deny the biggest threat to humanities future.

Trump used to claim it was a "hoax invented by China" for fuck's sake.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/04/06/trump-xi-climate/100112296/

"Trump boosts coal as China takes lead on climate change"

If there is one main way China will better the USA in the 21st century, it is through its investment in renewable energy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/30/climate-change-china-us-selfish-trump-coal

"Climate change: China calls US 'selfish' after Trump seeks to bring back coal"

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>>732296077
Dubs confirm it

>reversing the irreversible
>seeing the invisible
>ROW ROW CUT THE POWER

>>732292212
Im sorry.. But is that supposed to be an unbiased source?

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>>732295584
>nb4 Coruscant is a planet in a fictional story made up by some neckbeard.

Exactly you fucking idiot. It's made up. There is also no sound in space, hyperdrives are impossible, and the force doesn't exist. It's almost as if fictional stories don't define reality.

This has to be bait. There is no way someone can be this stupid.

>>732288180
The man makes a good point.

>>732288420

not true actually. we just need to cut emissions and focus on forms of carbon capture.

If we can store large amounts of it in solid form we can reduce what's in the atmosphere.

One of the best methods of this would be farming massive amounts of shellfish and then storing their shells somewhere that the wouldn't break down quickly, like a desert.

>>732288600

He probably meant all human life. Thermophiles can live in 122 degrees. A few thousand years after humans are gone the carbon will settle back down again.

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>>732295584

>>732288460

China currently investing 1.2 trillion in Solar tech R&D. They're going to be off fossil fuels before we are.

Actually we'll be buying out panels from them in 5-10 years because they'll have better tech from the R&D. China will soon be a world leader in energy tech.

I'm sure the change in climate will be slow enough that when it starts happening more prominently we will change course. Also, we can focus on carbon capture and not emissions.

>>732295584

Coruscant was chosen to be a city planet because it was lifeless. Fusion powered terraforming machines keep the atmosphere in balance.

>>732297791

actually it's 361 billion. But it's still a LOT more than the USA, which is none, and we're focused on caveman fuel like coal.

You're right that the world will be buying solar tech from china. The USA really fucked that one up

>>732298441

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-energy-renewables-idUSKBN14P06P

>>732298105

I'm afraid it's more like stopping a 3 mile train. By the time you see you're about to hit something, and jam on the brakes, the train keeps going, hits it and takes another 2 miles before it actually stops.

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>>732297791
we wont need stupid panels with glorious nuclear power

>>732288180
Oh that's what happened to the dinosaurs
>thanks for clearing that up

>>732288180
Relax.

We burn fossil fuels because theyre abundant, cheap, and have excellent cost vs. Efficiency.

Not having the cheapest/best energy source is political suicide on the international stage because balance of power.

The US can defund and not participate all they want. Once another country finds a cheaper more efficient energy source, thatll be it for oil. The US would also be forced to abandon it. And literally the rest of the world are working on it tirelessly. (Germany has made great progress towards a fusion reactor for example, and in Canada we've figured out how to draw co2 from the air and turning it back into burnable energy. But the process makes net emissions less than zero.)

And even if that doesn't pan out, there are already plans to mitigate the effects using aerosols to change the atmospheric contents. Its a last minute plan but its locked and loaded.

We aren't going to die. We're just going to play chicken with it.

>>732299248
>implying natural gas interests and the politicians they own haven't done everything in their power to undermine any real progress in alternative energy

Jew

>>732288180
He just mad he can't jerk off as much anymore to young white girls being brutally gang raped by Syrian and Libyan migrants.

>>732288652
Lmao.
Not bad, and near quints.

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Point is, everyone knows WE CAN DO BETTER. Oil companies have complied with laws in some cases have evolved to improve their methods... but WE CAN DO BETTER. Fossil fuels are obsolete.
It's not about MUH GLOBAL WARMING, it's about DOING BETTER. I don't see why this is at odds with the capitalist system... but it is. Due to greeedy ducking tillersons.

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Oh OP Fuck YOU and your SJW Nigger lovin' muslim ass lickin' Mexican ass worshipping jackoff faggot ass. You excel in pure human fuckery and FUCK YOU faggoty ass faggot

Global warming has been debunked... CLIMATE CHANGE is real and is always changing but NOT because of people... I.e. The ice age, then that climate changed and the ice age was no more. Now I ask you. Where were the air conditioners that leftists claim to cause climate change?

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>>732288180

>>732300216
WE CAN DO BETTER.

Why have you cucksdrvatives lost your competitive edge? Every year we send Mexicans to patch up shitty potholes when we should have the best road material known to man by now.

How much of climate change is due to humans?

>>732300216
>Global warming has been debunked

Except it fucking hasn't, ass burger.
Do some god damn reading that isn't from an alt-right podcast.

http://www.futuretimeline.net/forum/topic/17231-climate-change-scientific-paper-library/

>>732300531
Doesn't fucking matter.
Point is we have been basically using the same bullshit material for well over 100 years now... a civilized country would have been leading the way into cleaner better energy (like geothermal).
But oil companies can't let go of the 20th century.

>>732300645
My point, and it's a good point, is that we shouldn't be fighting over whether or not it's happening... we should all agree that whether it's happening or not, deep down, we know WE CAN DO BETTER.

>>732300718
Isn't that the only question that matters? If humans cause, say, 10% of climate change, then finding the cleanest source of energy won't matter much because the other 90% is doe to natural causes.

>>732288180
He's a fucking over rated blow hard. You should be worried about the upcoming solar minimum which will bottom out around 2030, meaning you're going to be freezing your nuts of by then.

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There are still busses in America that run like this. Fucking BULLSHIT, we can do better because we know better.

>>732300935
>90% human caused *acceleration* of climate change.
Fixed.

>>732289804
That guy is a fucking crackpot

>>732300935
Are you lazy?
As far as I'm concerned if our technology is capable of running clean energy we should challenge our corporations to do their best for the sake of being the best.

I don't understand why capitalists fail to take advantage of this opportunity.

>>732288180
I find Chomsky to be a dangerous man. He speaks only in "past tense". While it is very important to understand history, selective recollection of specific historical events can prove nearly anything. He never seems to give a positive world view and that makes it very easy for someone who is looking for a "philosophical hero" to take his ideas to heart without ever actually processing them for themselves.

>>732301320
go away crowder

>>732290035
NASA will be out of the climate change business soon. The thing you fucking alarmists don't realize is that you're going off half cocked based on fucking flawed models that can't predict shit.

>>732301369
I'm asking a serious question. How much of climate change is due to humans?

>>732288180
OP takes the liberal bait.
>good job faggot

>>732288180
b8

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I've invented a "Jimmy Hat" to put on Mount Ranier that will power the country for 1000 years.

Lol remember that time there was lead in our gasoline and the oil companies paid to misinform the public that lead is naturally occuring and poses no harm or threat to anyone and all the scientists took 20 years to convince the republicans and their voter base its a neurotoxin and have it removed from gasoline so we don't all turn into tards?

That was hilarious.

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>pinko academicians

>>732296077
>Believes everything China says. Kek

>>732301602
Whether humans are responsible 100 percent or 10 percent or 1 percent, we already know that fossil fuels are obsolete. Therefore we should be progressing beyond petroleum...
For the sake of being the best.

>>732301842
>churning out scientists and engineers and pouring money into r&d to unlock a cheaper more efficient, renewable energy source that would tip balance of power in their favour and make them the new superpower.

Even if they don't have good intentions...
Yeah I berieve them.

>>732301656
This.
See also sulfur content of diesel fuel reduction vis-à-vis acid rain.

>>732301871
Sure, but the topic is climate change. If we only cause 1%, then putting money into renewable energy won't fix climate change.

Purely on the topic of climate change, how much of it is caused by humans?

>>732297791
They are building more fucking coal fired plants every fucking week you moron. They couldn't make enough solar panels to meet their energy needs, but will sell them to libtards like you for $1/watt.

As a Christian, I ask you, does God Will that we stagnate for over a century burning fossil fuels, a RELATIVELY finite resource? doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result (like less asthma or less early death in West Virginia) is insane.

>>732300216
"Global Warming" (oops that didn't work)
"Climate Change" (yea, that sounds catchy - but not really)
Hey, let's try "Weather" (yea, nobody will deny that)

>suckers

>>732300531
.04 %

>>732302116
All of it.

The natural cycle took millions of years. It was caused by the mentioned volcanos and also balance of plant life vs. Animal life. More oxygen? Ice age. More CO2? Global warming.

It was a very slow natural cycle. Not a century or two.

>>732300645
Again I ask where were the people who caused PREHISTORIC climate change?

>>732300645
Like the other side of the argument isn't tainted. Climate gate anyone

>>732302116
Would you be willing to pretend that the industrial revolution and the stagnated generations following it are responsible for 50%? All you need to do is pretend. And that will spur your fucking ingenuity to BE BETTER.

>>732288420
>>732288600
It's unreal to me that people actually believe this shit.

You can calculate, literally with calc.exe and a couple of quick google searches, that it is literally NOT POSSIBLE for us to create enough carbon emissions to significantly alter the atmospheric mass in such a way that it would have any measurable effect, assuming that stayed at our current pace, for a MINIMUM of 500-1000 years.

If, in fact, we did alter the carbon mass of the atmosphere like this, and it was a cause, and not an effect, then something drastic would happen to handle it pretty rapidly and geologic data would indicate that it has happened several times in the past because geologic activity produces WAYYYY more of this kind of greenhouse gas that humans have since the beginning of the industrial age.

>>732302340
See>>732302332


Its atmospheric content. If there are too many more animals than plants you get more co2.

Thats just one of many factors.

You stuck to the natural cycle thing and didnt even bother to do the first google search as to "why"?

>>732302116
Probably a decent amount. Definitely enough to call for change. Quoting https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg3/

"Global carbon emissions from fossil fuels have significantly increased since 1900. Since 1970, CO2 emissions have increased by about 90%, with emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes contributing about 78% of the total greenhouse gas emissions increase from 1970 to 2011. Agriculture, deforestation, and other land-use changes have been the second-largest contributors"

>>732302429
>Climate gate
>Lol k

>>732289651
This.

CO2 is an EFFECT, not a CAUSE.

Start watching something like spaceweather on a daily basis and in a few months you'll understand. (Assuming you can do basic math that is.)

>>732302532
My point is climate change has always existed... It has never stopped changing...

"PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!"

Check out Stan Meyer's water car.

He was on to something.

>>732302052
You've been watching too many Elon Musk videos. The best solar panels are 20% efficient, not to mention the unreliable insolence with bad weather. They may be hedging their bets with solar research but there is no fucking way they will just give up coal, it's much more energy dense and efficient. A properly scrubbed coal plant only kicks off co2 and water vapour, but all you sjw faggots think co2 is some wicked poison, when the room you're in right now has a co2 concentration way higher than 400 ppm, especially after jerking off to transgender libtard porn.

>>732291328
Also this.

I always cringe when I hear "muh sea level!" because it varies by HUGE amounts across the planet. There is no "sea level".

There's also movement of the plates of the earth up and down. You could have a standard sea level and the plate move down a foot, or up a foot. The fucking length of the day changes EVERY DAY because of WIND BLOWING ON THE MOUNTAINS. You actually think that the moon moving thousands of miles farther or closer to the earth isn't going to affect weather your beach house suddenly ends up underwater? Jesus.

I'm amazed this thread lasted this long. Close to 3 hours.

>>732302118
This.

>>732302648
Michael Mann, is that you? How come that giant faggot won't share his fucking hockey stick data if the whole climate gate thing is bullshit? Yeah I thought so. Too much libtard grant money on the line that's why. You fucking libtards are going to be the death of this planet.

>>732300292
Well then what the fuck about O3 you cunt

>>732288396
The Mongols, Assyria, Persia, Nazi Germany, The Huns.

You are saying that Republicans are worse than those factions because SOME of them deny a problem that we will never fix anyway? IMO fuck environment funding and start building moon colonies.

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I remember hearing how we all would be dead from some disaster or the other in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Yet, here we are. The beaches are still there. The wales didn't all die. The Amazon rainforest still exists. We all didnt die in a thermonuclear blast. We weren't wiped out by a space rock. AIDS didnt wipe out all niggers and faggots. There is always some new boogeyman they invent to scare you. That is how they control you. Fear. Chomskyites eat that shit for breakfast like the irrelevant faggots they are.

>>732304597
>AIDS
>Nuclear war
>invented

>>732291328
> Im too lazy to post sites
But your not too lazy to write a paragraph of shit you could just be pulling out of your ass? post sources or no one cares.