How does it feel to know that nothing matters? There is no god.

If nothing matters why should I care?

>>731912501
How can you be sure there is no god?

>>731912501
Like every other day before. But I'm still going to get all the material bullshit I want because I fucking can.

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I don't agree with your premise.

If' I'm right, you'll be pleasantly surprised; if I'm wrong, I'll never know.

>>731912501
pretty good, just got some taquitos

this is why i drink a fuckload and spend time lucid dreaming

>>731912675
The burden of proof is on those making the extraordinary claims.

>>731912904
Fuck off no one has to prove anything about their beliefs and its not your place to judge them I dont believe in god I'm just telling you

>>731912501
You were half right. There is a god and nothing matters.

>>731912736
If you were right you would already be right. They fact that you say 'if I'm right' implies you have never been proven right and are waiting for something to change but that is also proof that nothing will change as it never has.

>>731913119
If nothing matters who cares about god. Whether he exists or doesn't is irrelevant then

>>731913231
Yeah, pretty much.

>>731913117
beliefs are made up by the mind and are not real. They only exist in the minds of those who choose to believe them. Those who don't believe them are not affected by the non existence of imaginary beliefs.

>>731912786
So it upsets you that there is nothing. But if there is nothing then drinking an lucid dreaming are, in fact, complicated versions of nothing. Why even bother?

>>731912728
But what motivates you if there is nothing. Surely motivation is the desire for something but what can REALLY be had in a universe of nothing?

>>731913330
Says you we might go to hell. What the fuck do you know?

>>731913499
Where could hell exist if not in the universe. And what of me would be going there?

Feels good man

>>731913493
The universe isn't full of nothing retard. This planet is fucking beautiful and there are some beautiful girls willing to have my beautiful kids and we can foster beautiful relationships. And I'll buy them beautiful things

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>>731913728
Hell yeah!

>>731912501

this thought of the day brought to you by the intergalactic space anus.

>>731913584
Your soul
And probably some other plain of existense
If our existense was like a house our universe would be the 1st floor and heaven would be the 2nd flood

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>>731913771
But you don't have those things. You want them to help fill that empty space inside you. But you don't have them. And they things you do have don't matter cuz you're here dreaming of other things you want. That emptiness inside can never seem to be filled.

>>731912501
You will die but your consciousness will live on, our biological brain just limits our perception. You'll be surprised you relieved you feel once you leave your physical body.

>>731913409
i exist, therefore i am not nothing. i realize we are monkey on a rock flying through space so i take steps to enjoy my time on that rock.

>>731913584
Nigga idk and I never said I did but you don't either and you never will so stop being a dick to the religious your not going to change anyone's mind. You just make us look stupid for arguing about pointless things. If they like it and aren't hurting anyone does it matter? Theyre just looking for a way to be happy

>>731913771
..and then they will cheat on you with men who are more beautiful than you. Poetic.

>>731913826
All these things that you speak of do not exist. They exist only in theory. It's a game your mind likes to play. It's called 'avoid thinking about the emptiness of existence' where is your soul separate from your body. Where would another plane of existence exists if not in this one. It's so easy for the mind to make up alternatives but it's MUCH harder to find proof.

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>>731912619
basically this

>>731912501
Just play some likin park and ger over it.
BECAUSE IN THE END...

>>731913966
But who am I and who is my physical body. Am I one thing or two things. Perhaps I have always been consciousness dreaming that I was a person?

>>731914090
That's the point of faith
If we had proof of god then everyone would believe in him, so god made himself invisible to us so he could test our faith

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>>731914152
...WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>731914237
What is the point of testing our faith?

>>731914037
But that's he point. ALWAYS looking for a way to be happy. Doesn't the truth set you free? Isn't freedom happiness? Could it be no one has ever found happiness because happiness comes only when you stop trying to find it? Is not religion and belief systems the ultimate 'keep the people searching' scam?

>>731913959
Yeah I've got a beautiful wife and probably a beautiful kid on the way. I've traveled and seen amazing things and I'm going to see more. I feel love and happiness and gratitude for what I've got but I've worked for it so I also feel satisfaction no emptiness feels good man

>>731914277
To see if we're worthy of gods eternal kingdom

What big empty void?

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>>731914243
...IF I JUST LAY HERE

>>731914237
Could it be the ultimate faith is knowing that nothing matters and that there is no other planes of existence other than this one. It would take A LOT of faith to still be a good person knowing that NOTHING YOU DID MATTERED. I think that takes more faith than the hope there's a big man with a beard up in space pulling strings.

>>731914175
You are your consciousness. And consciousness can't be created it can only be received, in fact we receive consciousness from another dimension and our brain is simply an antenna.

>>731914336
I have faith in god. Just not your god.

Does that mean I'm getting in? Because I've already got a section of sharp obsidian reserved in Paralaxis...

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>>731914383
... THUNDERSTRUCK!!

>>731914543
ONCE TO ME

>>731912904
Ok, majority of people in world believe in a god, be it Allah, god, Buddha, Jehovah etc..

A very small percentage don't believe in god, that means burden of proof lies with them.

>>731914477
Nope, you must believe in the one true god, whose name is god

>>731914055
Maybe but not all good things last and that's part of what makes it beautiful we chose to be together and if she doesn't want me then she can fuck off I'll another beauty
>>731914303
Or is it just a coping mechanism for all the fucked up shit out there for dealing with the loss of love one's and the unknown. Ignorance is bliss if you want it to be. And I'm just say you don't know for sure either so why be a dick to people who want to believe other then some sadistic bullshit you've got going on in your own life

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>>731914543
...DONT STOP ME NOW!

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>>731914342
whoh dude... i can't tell if this is deep or not

that's fucking deep

>>731914462
If I am consciousness then this body is not me. It is something else and I should just leave it alone and forget about it. I can't possibly be a body receiving consciousness if I am my consciousness. I am ONE thing NOT TWO. I must be conciousness alone. I must have always been conciousness. How could I have been anything else?

>>731914689

No, it is not deep. Just not noticing any big empty void. I make no pretension to being emotionally perfect, but when ya say big empty void, nothing is coming to mind.

Im filling up my life and emotions just fine with wine, beer, weed, pussy, and porkbelly...and some travel to look at foreign wine, beer, weed, pussy, and porkbelly.

>>731914777
This is now god

>>731914777
Lol that's the point. If you had some image of an empty void that would be something. An empty void is EMPTY. This isn't a Chinese riddle it's simple logic.

>>731914614
I do believe in the one true god. I've seen his miracles first hand.

Are you sure you're not the one being led astray by a false god? You've never seen or heard from him. I however, has seen AND heard from mine, his creations, his abilities.

See I had faith in him, and he rewarded me for my faith. So how can you be sure your god is even going to reward you for following his rules?

>>731914614
That isn't a very Christian way of thinking, Jehovah's witnesses refer to god as Jehovah, to them that is the proper name for god. Same goes for all the other religions (or variations of)

>>731912501
I'm ok with it. It's been an awesome ride.

>>731912501
best thing is that your ability and unimpeded freedom to live by a defeatist reality is the best proof of god there ever was

>>731914237
>If we had proof of god then everyone would believe in him
If we had proof of god, then there is no need to BELIEVE in him, because we would KNOW. We would also know which part of humanity believed in the right god. The other 90 percent would commit suicide, leaving the 10 percent of true believers in months of work to clean the bloody mess.

God is real your just flouridated douchebag who probably still thinks space is real.

>there is no God
There is also sky god, god of light, goddess of the moon, god of war, goddess of fertility - the list goes on. No god is alright but is he the best one?

>>731914872

I would assume OP means that there is this chasm of existential doubt or a feeling that life is fundamentally unsatisfying, or something like that. But i'm not sure which, and it's not very obvious in me. I get the impression that OP thinks it should be very obvious, and scary. And i'm not feeling that, so i'm asking for clarification so i know where to look.

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, our bodies are alive and sentient because of this energy, it doesn't disappear or get destroyed when we die so where does it go?

>>731912904
OP did make the extraordinary claim. claiming "there is no god" is just as extraordinary as claiming that no god exists. Consider, the mayfly. He's born, lives his whole life and dies. He may not encounter a human. He will probably not ever even encounter dry land. If he dies before he mates, it will be at the hand of a trout, and won't be able to tell others that trout, dry land and humans do, in fact, exist. Or, insert earthworm. or brown bear. or pretty much any creature that might live its entire life not encountering an entity smarter than it.

Are you really so childish as to believe that, just because you've never observed an entity greater than you, that entities greater than you don't exist, while all the while, entities lesser than you are observed to exist? why do you and OP both automatically assume that what is true for literally every other creature on earth (a greater being, aka humans) exist, the same can't be true for us?

(here we go with the blah blah humans aren't greater than animals we're all equal. dolphins and octopus hurr durr.. Humans are observably greater than any creature. We have fucking skyscrapers and space ships)

>>731912501
dont forget current body determinates what youre doing and thinking
humans do strange things and ask stupid questions

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>>731912501

True happiness is the goal for any human being. This isn't my opinion. When you observe humans the vast majority of their actions are done in order to bring about happiness in themselves and others. Therefore one could deduce that happiness is of the utmost importance to humans. However, more times than not a human will have to continually repepat an activity that brought them joy many times in order to continue the happiness. And upon further observation the returns of happiness from the activity often tend to diminish over time. Thua asking the question: is there a true happiness that does not fade or have to be an activity repeated over and over. Is there a source of happiness that never ends and requires nothing to obtain it? That must be True Happiness or a Happiness that's effects stay true or don't disappear

>>731914613
No it does not, friend. A million people who claim there's life on Mars and live their life thinking it, don't make it so. There's a reason we're exploring the place. Burden of proof lies with those making a claim

That being said, I do believe in a god. I just don't have any proof

>>731915141
What if I am that greater entity and so are you. What if we keep dreaming ourselves to be insignificant humans praying for gods love when gods love is the love inside of us. What if we spend our whole lives looking for an external god when GOD is WHO WE ARE?

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>>731912501
I disagree.
I'll always have Lain with me.

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>>731914700
Your body is just a receiver/container. It's currently calibrated so you perceive the world through this body.

>>731915304
>making a claim

Yeah like "god doesn't exist" that's a claim, and burden of proof lies with the person claiming it. You try to sound smart but your reading comprehension and logic process tell me otherwise.

>>731915052
The question was how does it make you feel to know life is empty and without meaning. Some people find this fact the most liberating thing ever. Some find it to be the most depressing thing ever. How do you feel was the question.

This strawberry daiquiri sobe thing is fucking delicious. Jesus christ. Tastes kind of like childrens liquid amoxicillin.

>>731914700
Hope you're joking... Consciousness comes from the body's mind, which is extremely developed. That's why we've tapped into several of our universe's biggest sources of energy

>>731915065
It doesn't "go" anywhere. It already exists here and it will after we die. It simply changes

>>731915454
I think that's just your mind trying to come up with a more satisfying lie. It just has your mind written all
Over it.

>>731915485
Meaning is subjective. Nobody defines what anything means for you. We each do that ourselves individually, but most of the time we collaborate and agree with people beyond just our own attachments to meaning. So it can seem bigger and more real than it truly is

>>731915485

Oh, i got that part of it, but OP is suggesting that there is some kind of a void, a wanting, a desperate desire, that can never be satisfied. What is this desire he is suggesting i am supposed to have?

>>731914237
that's stupid, he made himself visible in Jesus time (allegedly), why not after that? It's more likely because those first stories are also made up fairytales and christian god does not exist. If you had ANY education, you would understand that yourself.

>>731915501
Consciousness originates in your heart. It is amplified by the brain but it's source is the heart. Thas an actual scientific fact. Your brain can't ACTAULLY UNDERSTAND consciousness it can only be aware of it. Only consciousness, which you wholly are, can understand conciousness. Your heart is the birth of conciousness and your brain, though it's awareness of it, is able to make use of it, so to speak. Ultimately speaking on conciousness is useless as conciousness is not an object you can talk about. When we talk of it really it's just conciousness talking about conciousness.

There's other religions
>>731915724

>>731915304
You don't need "proof" it's called faith. Some have it, some don't

>>731913493
What do you want me to do? Mope around all day depressed because i'm going to die one day? Like Red said, you either get busy living or get busy dying

>>731915637
Exactly and due to meanings subjectiveness it isn't real. It's an abstract transitory thing that cannot quantified. Therefore it is unreal. Or only an imaginary thing. I can say there is an elephant in my room even if there isn't one and you can imagine what an elephant in my room would look like but that's just your imagination it isn't real.

>>731915476
>I believe OP is a faggot.
>If the burden of proof is on me, I cannot prove OP is a faggot.
>Therefore by your logic, OP is not a faggot

>>731915764
>talking about consciousness as if he has it figured out
No. Thanks for your opinions but no. Consciousness doesn't originate in the heart you idiot.

>>731915476
are you retarded? burden of proof lies on the one making claims. you claim that god exists, you have to prove that with facts, thats how burden of proof works. I don't have to prove that something DOES NOT exist, thats not how things go.

>>731915657
You keep asking about op but what about you? That's your problem you can't seem to focus on you it's always someone else. Who are you? What do you think?

>>731915824
So the idea that life is empty depresses you? Interesting. For me it's a very liberating thought. What's there to worry about if it's all nothing. I can just go about my life happy knowing when I die it didn't matter while I was living or after I'm dead. It has been and always will be a bunch of nothing. I'm sorry it makes you sad

>>731915997

I'm not particularly interesting in discussing the meaning of existence. I'm as secure in that understanding as one can be, and it's a philosophical topic that you could talk about all day, all year, or a philosopher's entire life-long career and not get anywhere.

But i am interested to know what that void op is talking about is. Whether i have it or not. Or whether op is projecting a thing onto others that is actually just a personal problem of theirs.

>>731916167
What's the point of "I" if nothing matters? Your ego clearly matters to you.

>>731915906
Haha you couldn't be more wrong. but that's the thing about false statements, you can't argue against them. So all I can say is good luck!

>>731912501
get a job you fat worthless faggot
youll feel loads better not being a worthless fucking neet

>>731915785
Did you read my post? Or are you stupid? I have faith. There is no scientific proof

>>731916282
Consciousness isn't a "thing" like a noun is. It's a quality. Try again.

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>>731912501
I guess it feels the same as believing in god or that things matter somehow. The big empty void I mean.

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>>731916399
Even a quality is a thing lol. Abstract things are things. They are thoughts which are electrical impulses. Conciousness is not an electrical impulse. Consciousness is nothing. We give it a name but it existed before the name and before us thinking about it.

>>731913959
>fill that empty space inside you
what are you retarded?

get a fucking hobby to fill that retarded empty space of yours, this is not a mystical empty space, its you needing something to challange yourself

>>731912501
Feels about the same as you.

>>731916608
Mad man.

>>731916399
>It's a quality

WOW, you're vapid.

>>731916692
You anger fills you up and makes you feel good. You like to be mean to other people. You like calling people faggots. It fills that empty void for a minute until you have to don't again. Even your rage is a source of happiness for you. But you're a slave to it hahaha

>>731914700
your body is a working living being on its own, you are together in this ride, take care of your body and your body will take care of you

i think of my body as my best friend since we're together from day 1 and till the end

>>731916636
No I'm saying consciousness is not a tangible thing in itself. It doesn't exist on its own, but it only exists with something else as part of that something.

Consciousness is literally just a quality

>>731915783
Which is another proof that there's no god. People, especially christians just want to explain it by saying: God gave the humans a free will.

And even then I wouldn't mind having a god. He would be almighty. Why would he punish me for my shit. In any case my afterlife is going to be great. :^)

I don't believe the big bang either. We just don't know and we will never know. It will always be a riddle how we are able to exist. Creation of room and time is bothering me so hard, I should just stop thinking about it and keep going on with my life. I don't know what I live for but I really fear about what's going to happen after I'm dead. I don't want to delude myself.

>>731916775
For real. He watched one Ekhart tolle video on YouTube and he's the fucking Dali Lama

>>731912501
Feels pretty bad, man, but what else do you wanna do with the life you're given than to live it?

>>731916790
i think thats a misunderstanding, im fairly certain i dont get any real pleasure out of it, i just get too bored when i see stupid questions like these when i could meditate and answer them myself

im basically tired of people having a beautiful brain but not using it

>>731915764
>Consciousness originates in your heart
why not from the stomach? or kidneys?

the heart is just a simple organ that has things to do like the rest of your body, how do you come to the conclusion that a muscle that pumps blood is something more than that?

>>731916870
a quality of what? In order to be a quality it must belong to something of which it is a quality. Consciousness exists on its own. it is free from all quality and it itself is not a quality of something else

>>731917062
Pretty sure you took whatever you did too literally

Such confidence that there is no god. And yet you can't say for certain whether there is or isn't. The fact is, you haven't died. You haven't spoken to someone who has. You simply do not know. That big empty void is there for a reason anon. It cannot be filled apart from god. It makes sense that there is a Creator. The problem, as with all atheists, is not in the evidence. It is there in abundance. The problem is merely with your bias toward what evidence is available, or you complete ignorance that credible, empirical evidence that would stand up in a court of law, exists.

I myself find plenty of meaning in life. I find it vastly rich and fulfilling, even in the depths of the utmost misery that I've experienced, I've never held the hopeless view that you do anon. I hope you learn to love and to live.

>>731917069
>a quality of what
Anything with consciousness obviously.

Okay If you disagree then can you show me an example of consciousness itself existing separate from all other things?

>>731917112
>Pretty sure you took whatever you did too literally

can you write in a way so i can understand what you're trying to say? like wtf

>>731912501
life does matter, but a single human is just a drop in an ocean of meaning

So nobody knows what OP means by big empty void? I don't have an empty void. At least not one i notice. I even recently ate breakfast, so i'm not even hungry.

>>731917062
lol you should read your comments out loud before you submit them so you could hear how unintelligent you sound. If you have studied consciousness for one minute the heart is the most important aspect. I have to wonder if you've ever meditated or even know what you are talking about. If you are trying to dismiss the heart when it comes out i consuouness it's like trying to dismiss the oceans when talking about water. It's the most important aspect!

>>731917313
ehh okay, you're the kind of person i would talk to about this just for curiosity but lowkey i think you're very willfully stupid if you actually think the body is anything more than just a body

and my mother language is icelandic so i might write in a very stupid way, but i dont give a fuck <:-) <3

i would care if this conversation was in person though

>>731917226
This very moment is consciousness. I cannot give you AN EXAMPLE. Your thinking, your breathing, your farting is all consciousness. And you are that. You are everything. And everything is nothing. But our ability to be aware and have this conversation IS CONCIOUSNESS. And when I say our I mean conciousness. You can't escape it lol

>>731917112
>>731917262
i now understand what you mean

i disagree, i have to take everything he says literally since thats the only information hes dishing out of his point

i fucking hate it when people use that

if people dont literally mean what they're saying then they're just bad at expressing their thoughts

>>731912761
I love tequitos

>>731917308
It's the one your going to try and fill with all the distractions later tonight and then do again the next day. Only tomorrow those distractions won't distract you as well and so you'll need new ones. Lol youll know what I'm talking about haha

>>731917693

I'd really rather have a specific definition or description, not just something defined by inference.

>>731917548
You're just talking in circles without explaining how consciousness isn't a quality of something. Every time you say something about consciousness it's in fact how it's a part of something else. You also seem to be trying to explain this in woo-woo and not scientifically which I don't appreciate.

>>731915141
this guy makes a good point

>>731917499
Talking about consciousness is difficult even amongst people who speak the same language. I applaud your ability to speak about it in English. I think the language barrier is confusing you so just go on being conciousness and it'll all be good.

>>731912501
Your mama gay.

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>>731912501
>nothing matters
Well obviously. Just use the right definition

>>731915141
Excellent point.

Atheists are completely absurd.

>hurr durr, I don't have beliefs I don't have to defend them Christians do
>making asinine statements like 'god doesn't exist'

excellent point OP

>>731917800
if conciousness isn't a thing how could I condense it into one phrase for you to think about. I suppose you could say all talk about conciousness is a failure but it's a failure we need to make. We need to fail out best at talking about consciousness or ignorance will rule the word. You want something to grab onto but consciousness can't be let go of or grabbed onto.

Something does matter.

I grew up with two meth addicted parents in the slums of Brooklyn without an education, or a roof over my head.. The other kids would take my things and I was bullied by three younger brothers daily.. and then I sucked a long, slimy corn-infested log and felt it slid against my heart.

I woke up today a proud, happy and successful man

>>731912761
Muh jeffe

>>731918271
Not funny.
Neck yourself.

>>731914237
cmon are you that dumb, religion was only created because it was necessary for human construction as a society.
The efficacity of the dogma correlate to the efficacity of a society.
It's a system that makes us move.
I imagine the first humans were in fact in such a grief when they lost someone that they invented the concept of god. Like a psychosis crisis. Spreading in a community to other community, deformed reformed, leading to different believes. Inspiring respect of others, punishment and order.
Beliving that if you'll do good, good will happen, if you do bad FEAR GOD WRATH
Religion has the same rules as darwinism in a way.
If the ancients had not created religion we wouldn't have a justice system today.
Believing in god blindly doesn't make you a bad person, but it makes you kinda stupid in way. Or ignorant.
In 10000 if humans still exists, religion will not be the same, people will still have supernatural believes and i don't blame them, the mind is unstable. Frontier between reality and imagination can be blurred by emotions, we have many cognitive bias.

But man saying god made himself invisible to us so he could test our faith... What dumb priest has told you that?
People die everyday.
Illness, retardation, crime, war everywhere. Incrasing pervesion, suicide, depression, mental illness, child abuse, accidents, rape, stupidy, hate, manipulation
the list goes on and on

Still it is to test our faith.
You're one dumb motherfucker

>>731916903
I love this argument.

Like a 5 year old child crying cause his parents won't let him play in the street. Too small sighted and dim-witted to realize his parents are protecting him by not letting him get hit by a car.

But then they let him play in the back yard and he falls and breaks his arm and comes in crying "if you loved me you wouldn't have let this happen"

You can't win with atheists. And the reason why is you want to be god. You won't submit yourself to anyone, you won't trust that there may be reasons to things beyond your understanding. You just want ease, comfort, and unlimited wealth and power...all for yourself. And yet, almost all good things come from delayed gratification and a touch of patience. The bible doesn't prescribe a life of ease and comfort, but one of discipline and difficulty.

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>>731912501
it feels good not to be a moron, and go along with everything i've heard.

>>731917884
yea fuck language barriers

time to globalize this planet and unite to spread around the universe

>>731912675
Out of all that was said you choose to ask the most narrow minded question. That is the proof that there is no god.

>>731918263
Cute but your words don't disprove my point. You can only explain consciousness in relation to what it is attached to, or in relation to your personal experience which is ofc THE attachment. Consciousness is a quality of life, not a law of existence. Laws are social constructs anyway.

Your words are more kinda meaningless the less open minded you can be. A truly open mind makes way for lucidity.

The goal in life is to survive and advance humanity. Learn to not care about your feelings, stop being a bitch and start being an asset to humanity. The void will disappear.

God is a useless concept, it's only an answer to those that do not ask many questions

>>731918486
Don't rebel cuz you live in Iceland. I know youre isolated but globalizing isn't the answer.

Guys, did you know that toffee is just sugar and butter?

I was surprised to find that out, because toffee has more complex flavors than i thought just butter and sugar would impart.

>>731918405
im fairly confident you're a recovering addict and "god" helped you through that and that experience you have contaminates this kind of discussion

>>731918653
globalization is the answer for humankind to work together, do you disagree with that?

>>I know youre isolated but globalizing isn't the answer.

depends what your question is, my question is can we move to other planets, solar systems and hopefully eventually galaxies

>>731918654
ACTAULLY toffee tastes EXACTLY like a mixture of butter and sugar wtf are you talking about?

>>731912501
Every time I think of stuff like this I immediately start thinking about how much time I could spend masturbating...

>>731918804

Well i can't describe the flavor of toffee, but i've had butter and i've had pure sugar, and it just seems like toffee is more than the sum of those parts.

>>731912501
i can fill your void tho

>>731918528
Your words inply that something only exists if you can talk about it. We could never talk about consciousness and it would exist. Talking is a human construction and often times obscures reality. You have clearly intellectualized conciousness turning it into merely a talking point. For you it's just a fun topic. You aren't serious .

>>731918927
concept of cooking, numb skull

>>731918674
Virtually nobody becomes religious unless they were conditioned to be that way through childhood, or reached a very very vulnerable and weak state in their lives like rock bottom of a drug or alcohol addiction. Also people who are (commonly just psychologically or "mentally") disabled from trauma tend to become religious to help cope.

Pastors can afford 4 million dollar dog houses because religion doesn't attract the best and brightest of humanity. It attracts the weakest and worst because hurr durr god loves and forgives you for being a piece of shit. Easily exploitable and easy to brainwash. And the outreach message - as i just said - is what attracts them by the millions.

>>731919016

No need to be mean.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality

You live in an infinite amount of timelines, each leading to your death. When you die in one of them, you are transported to the timeline where you live instead based off of your choices. When you simply cannot live regardless of your choices, you become a new consciousness.

>>731918927
Well when you cook sugar and butter together it CARMELIZES so I suppose you could say what you are tasting is CARMELIZATION.

>>731919063
this

>>731919063
so you agree with me?

>>731912501
oh dear sucicidal

check my singles, is that a 7?

>>731919098

Yeah i know that caramel is just an altered form of sugar, but toffee also doesn't taste precisely like caramel. It's certainly closer than uncooked sugar.

>>731919095
Alright let me test this theory

>>731919263
You already have. You just don't know it.

>>731918634
Sadly a psychopathic or sociopathic person might not have this believes.
But i agree with you, would drink a beer with

Quantum immortality actually sounds pretty horrifying.

It doesn't say you keep your faculties, just that you effectively never die.

That would mean for every person, there is a reality where you are eventually a nearly brain dead immortal husk tumbling through a dead universe.

Talking about consciousness is like writing about music. If you don't know how to listen words aren't going to help you.

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>>731919095
We live in an infinite amount of timelines, and in one of them I get trips

>>731919376
Unless you expand your consciousness so that when you leave your body you can still be aware.

>>731918982
You're putting words onto my mouth and then trying to build on previous mental gymnastics without actually having a tangible claim in the first place.

Give a single example of consciousness "existing on its own" or stop acting like you know what you're talking about. Nothing you said is tangible and holds water against what can be objectively observed.

>>731919376
>>731919540
Pretty much.

>>731919522
checked

>>731919376

>dead universe.

no

>>731919095
I believed this for a long time. Quantum immortality. But I came to realize that, even if this happened to be true, you would never know it until it became apparent at the end of your life. It makes more sense to believe that you live once, and your life is all you have. Make the most of it that you can, be happy

>>731919657

Short hand for everything is so slow and cold that on the time scale of human perception, nothing happens for basically forever.

>>731919162
Yea. Religion is aids that attracts the lousiest of minds, who collectively set the bar for self control and especially self awareness very very low.

>>731918516
out of all he said, if there is god then it all matters, no?
>That is the proof that there is no god.
??

>>731919548
But conciousness is not a separate thing. It's not like a tree. You're like the person here who said that toffee doesn't taste like sugar and butter combined. Clearly he doesn't understand the nature of cooking. Much the same way you don't understand the nature of consciousness.

>>731912501
I wouldn't know.

>>731912501
Well satisfying your emotions should be the only thing that matters.

>>731919765
thank you

>>731919680
even if this is actually how our consciousness/soul system works it doesnt even matter, we will never know

to me it almost sounds something religious people tell each other to make each other feel better, in other words circlejerking

>>731919780
>Not a separate thing
Exactly! Because it's a fucking quality and that's how it works.

Blue is not a separate thing from anything which is blue, because it's a quality of whatever things are fugin blue.

>>731912501
I embrace the void, removed shackles of hope and despair, and damn I wish more would do the same

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Meh. Youre not telling me something I didnt already know.
What else ya got?

I love how people in the year 2017 act like none lived before. We have millennia of human experience but only he last 10 years matter. Haha what a joke humans are sometimes.

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>>731919936
I fux with you

>>731919936
>remove the shackles of hope and despair
I guarantee you tried doing that with hope, and thus objectively got nowhere. Try again.

>>731919904
A quality is still a thing. So conciousness cannot be a quality. A quality is something observable and something that can be noted. Consciousness isn't separate from anything for you to notice. You want so bad to objectify consciousness so you can claim to possess it but it isn't a quality or anything else. It is free from all quality and all name and all objectification

>>731920000
sick quads

you're still fucking retarded, are you actually implying last 30 years humankind has not jumped lightyears ahead in progress of surviving in this universe?

we've never jumped so far ahead in terms of technology before, ever

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>Mfw people are still obsessed with these topics.

>>731919752

what is dark matter and energy?

>>731920268
Lol thanks for illustrating my point. the truth never changes humans just come up with different ways to describe it over the years. Keep being ignorant.

>>731920254
Consciousness is objectively a quality of things with it, and that's all I've been saying from the get-go. It's too late for me to say to you "quit while you think you're ahead". You're hopeless

>>731912501
Nothing matter on an absolute scale
But the good shit is that (you) choose the rules you want to follow and your goals
No god means that you are your own god

>>731920532
the great thing about being right is you don't have to worry about other people spewing false facts. lol it's gonna be lifetimes before you wake up son. Haha

>>731920389

Ya know, people are born all the time and haven't had these thoughts yet. Time didn't start when you were born in 2004, and existentialism wasn't just a phase everybody went through at the same time and is now just passe.

>>731918405
like if you were born in multiaddict abusive family you would have the same view on/of god
A friend of mine went to india and saw little girls get raped as a ritual. She told to me "go there and you'll see what is real life"
If you would have been born with ONE different gene you might be completely different. And you don't even aknowledge that because you want to justify your existence, feel the awe of being complete even thought you could have a cancer in 15 years, you'll still be reassuring by believing that awe feeling that makes you compelled in front of the beauty of nature.
You say the atheist only want ease, confort and unlimited wealth and power. Man, it's pretty much a description of heaven.

>>731920719
Yeah bruh you're so woke and enlightened fam. Everyone who disagrees with you and asks you to prove your claims are just ignorant

>>731920846

Did you bring ear plugs? Little girls are shrill when they aren't being raped.

>>731920492
>>731920492

>the truth never changes
??

try to have a conversation and explain to me what is truth to you

>>731920850
do you want me to prove light exists? Do you not know how to open your eyes. I don't think you know what your talking about thas why you keep asking people to explain it to you. Consciousness is everything. You keep placing so much importance on whatever you keep imagining reality is and so consciousness becomes a quality to you. It's called false imagination. You are able to imagine it so in some ways it is real but when you look for it in reality it's. Where to be found. But for someone like you your brain isn't developed enough so you keep reimagining things and looking for them only to find nothing. You keep doing this so you come here asking me to explain myslef. But who would I be explaining something that exists on it's own at all times without any need for explaination. Ur sleep AF fam

>>731921179
Truth is true. You might be confusing me using that word with other people using it. Truth isn't written in a book somewhere. Gravity was DISCOVERED but it had always been there before it was discovered. The truth is jus like that. It's there for you to discover but it will be true whether you do or not. This isn't a riddle it's just simple logic. But sometimes simple logic is difficult for the human mind.