Trumpkins are retarded so I'm not really worried anymore.

>>731534110

you're a fucking moron, he and his cronies are going to destroy the planet and the quality of life of anyone not part of the ruling class, and they're all laughing at you

but yeah, ok, "muh protests!"

>>731534296
lol so what's the non-idiotic option? The planets a big fucking place. China and India has been producing magnitudes more pollution than we have for a long time. Trump ain't making the world end in 4 years, you fucking moron.

>>731534296
this is pretty much what im worried about

>>731534110
Hi Antifa!

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>>731535757
Not antifa, I just volunteer for the local democratic organization. People are getting pretty impassioned right now. But apparently just like dems ignored the tea party movement and all the subsequent developments, the republicans are doing the same thing. Which will probably only make it work out better... I just can't lose haha

>>731535672

the non-idiotic option is to invest in space travel

The Bush Admin. united the people, ostracized foreign powers, garnered hatred around the globe and strained relationships with allies...


What did that do for gaining traction for a common cause?


Did anything actually change?


Those who refuse to learn from history...are doomed to repeat it or some such shit.

yeh thats true. reps recently passed the AHCA but exempted themselves. just wait until reps realize that they just got cucked lmfao

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>>731534110
This is fake news. His approval rating among people who voted for him is still around 95%.

If Hillary and Trump had another election today, Trump would not only win again, but he would take the popular vote as well.

>>731536235
In what way did democrats "ignore" the tea party movement? I remember there being CONSTANT headlines denouncing them as terrorists...

Now we have a REAL terrorist group in Antifa and there are far fewer headlines recognizing their very real and continuous threat to public safety.

Stupid double standard fake news media

>>731536935
They were exempt from Obamacare for the same reason all along anyway. They have their own cushy federal government health care benefits.

>>731537888
we're not talking about people who voted for him, we're talking about the entire country. the entire country votes for the president. and when it comes to the entire country, a majority of people disapprove of him. lol come on now

>>731534110
I'm not convinced you'll have such a strong left wing movement either though. Do you still not realize why your guy lost? Have you still not figured it out yet? I'll give you a hint, it had nothing to do with Russians.

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>>731536497
>The Bush Admin. united the people
With post-9/11 fearmongering that completely faded over his presidency.

>>731537888
>implying Trump didn't lose support amongst his base as he backed out on all his campaign promises
wew lad

>>731538328
Yeah, that's who that poll was talking to. If the election were held right now, Trump would take 43% of the vote to Clinton's 41%.

>>731538328
58 percent of eligible voters went to the polls during the 2016 election. That's out of 231 million people in a country with a population of about 322 million. 188 million people could all be furious with Trump but since they didn't vote or weren't eligible to vote it didn't matter and continues to not matter.

>>731534110

I'm actually legitimately surprised that there haven't been any assassinations of the anti-American subhuman GOP trash yet.

They have effectively declared war on American values and are worse terrorists than ISIS could ever hope to be.

>>731538083

They're still terrorists. They just march with their hoods and swastikas on now.

>>731538934
Name one American Value that the GOP has targetted. Just one. I'll wait.

>>731539042
I don't think that's true, please cite your sources.

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>>731538692
Why are you still perpetuating this myth that he's backed out of his campaign promises the SAME DAY he saw the House of Representatives pass a bill that will repeal and replace Obamacare?

And no he hasn't lost a significant amount of support from his base, they would still vote for him again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/22/how-many-trump-voters-really-regret-their-votes/

>>731539071
>>731539071

>targetted

Okay lil guy, tell Shareblue to get better shitposters.

Yes, I know exactly why hillary lost. You're confusing the DNC with the average dem voter. Even the average dem voter didn't care for hillary, hence why her campaign was a total shitshow. That move pissed dems off so much hillary can't do anything of consequence anymore. Grassroots dems keep growing and growing.

>>731539071
I'm disappointed that the Republicans are giving up on the nuclear family ideal... they're not defending straightness as much as they used to, they don't denounce single-mothers anymore, they're on a slippery slope to abandoning all their core family values.

>>731539298
If only she hadn't colluded with the DNC to push out Bernie... he was the candidate that modern Democrats actually wanted.

>>731539261
lol you guys are funny with the shareblue shit. oooohhh yeah we're all boogeymen. whos the real human? you'll never know. just make yourself a tinfoil hat and find some jars to piss in while we make our way to DC.

>>731539261
Oh, god forbid my autocorrect did something stupid. That must refute my point. Name one value. One.

>>731539298
If you knew why she lost, then you wouldn't be talking about some impending left wing revolution run by the Democrats.

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why are libtards so angry about everything?
I thought these shill threads would eventually die out. Shareblue must have a rainy day fund.

>>731539321
That's not attacking anything. I'm not even convinced that's true.

>>731539533
>>731539533

lmao I already know how this is gonna go. I'll say a completely valid point and you're gonna do some shit like

>ACHHUAHAAULULALALLLLY

Like what do you kids get out of shitposting about Trump? Does it make you feel better about your life?

>>731539466
Doesn't it make you feel sick to your stomach that you're part of a movement that corrupts the hearts of americans with lies instead of actually trying to help them?

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>>731534110

>>731539686
Then make a valid point. Name an American value being attacked by the GOP. As of right now I can only assume that you can't. Challenge is down Antifa, put on your big girl panties and rise to the occasion.

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>>731539135
>this myth that he's backed out of his campaign promises
How's the wall?
It was really cool when Hillary got locked up.
Oh, and when the swamp got drained.

>passing the house = law

>cites WaPo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>731539394
Actually I agree. Even a lot of trump supporters would have supported him. People just don't want establishment douchebags anymore. People were happy to let the DNC take the reins because they reliably got victories in the past, even if the candidates weren't perfect. Hillary narrowly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory made everyone re-think things. Now people are actually going with that gut feeling they had all along that said 'shit aint right, lets change things around'. It's a sexy time to be a liberal

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>>731539686
Not the person you quoted but honestly it doesn't matter what your ideology is, if you make up some false BS of course people are going to fact check it. Why would you preemptively get upset that people on the internet can google? Just come to the table with real knowledge instead, cupcake.

>>731539757
>>731539757

Deflection is a usual left-tactic.

Anytime there's talk about violent libs it's almost always blamed on a "rogue group that came in...not with everyone else though...they were separate...".

If it even REMOTELY involves Trump supporters, you fucking bet they're getting the full blame.

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>>731534110

trump solved north korea nuclear crisis in 5 months. lol you tard

>>731539861
I think the GOP is attacking the value of the average american's labor every time they oppose minimum wage legislation, bail out big corporations, and hand out tax breaks to companies that exploit minimum wage unskilled part time labor with no benefits.

People are being used and abused and Republicans don't want to get in the way because that would reduce the donations rolling in.

I suppose it's better than Democrats who do the exact same thing but then pretend they aren't in sheer displays of rude hypocrisy.

>>731539861
Freedom of the press. Trump has explicitly said he wants to curb that. There's the value you keep fucking asking for. Now go fuck yourself. Inb4 'muh corrupt MSM!'

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>>731534296
Calm down there nancy boy.

>>731540065
It's not solved. They haven't been disarmed, their whole country is still f*cked.

>>731534110

Daily Reminder


>The same polling methods used to predict Shillary Clinton would win in a landslide are being used for this "Approval Rating" bullshit

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>>731536235
sure thing faggot

>>731540160
In that regard Trump doesn't represent the Republican party. But be that as it may, he doesn't want to curb "free" press, he wants to curb "fake" press. Lying to people is NOT a treasured American value, despite its long history intermingled in our politics.

>>731534110
George W. Bush had like a 20% approval rating at one point

>>731540236
lol true

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>>731537888
Trips of truth my MAGA brotha.

>>731540297

do you really believe that any press shines a light on trump's negative aspects is "fake?"

>>731540073
That's not exactly an American value, but I actually don't disagree. Devaluation of labor is a bad thing, no doubt. I'm impressed you are willing to call the dems on that as well. My only reply is that I think you're forgetting who was responsible for the ARRA.

>>731539930
Yeah that's because Dems claim to be civil little snowflakes while Trump would just shout shit like:
"TAKE HIS COAT, OUT OUT OUT"
"Back in the good old days he'd be leaving in a stretcher"
Dems are full of shit but lets be real, those with a hard-on for political violence tend to be on the right.

>>731534110
So close to a debilitating stroke, keep up the Super Male Vitality rip-off drops.

>>731538920
So what though? Clinton just lost to Trump. That alone makes her less popular than she was before, which wasn't very popular to begin with. Many people on the left would like to see Clinton go somewhere far away and stay there. Lots of people held their nose to vote for her and then she still fucking blew it anyway. She's not a good measure of where opinions around Trump stand now or going forward.

You should notice that Trump has become less popular too. He got 46% on election day iirc.

>>731540297
I'd fully support Trump's attack on MSM fake news, but he's praising Fox at the same time.
FAKE NEWS! EXCEPT FOX!
come the fuck on.

>>731540467
Not all of it obviously, even radical right wing publications are critical of Trump when it's deserved. But the same can't be said of radical left wing publications when Obama was president.

There is a double standard and fake news.

>>731540549
cute tummy... if only you weren't a bot...

>>731540160
1. Citation needed.
2. Trump isn't the GOP, most of them don't like or support him.
3. Going after fake news isn't curbing the free press. After all, nothing is more un American than a press that us literally a propaganda arm for one party.

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>>731538934
You make a powerful case.

>>731540716
>>731540716

Because Fox reports on shit most of the MSM won't touch.

It's basically their thing, it's a conservative TV station.

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>>731540289
u mad bruh?

>>731540297
And who decides whats fake news? People. Literally whoever is around. Right now you decide MSNBC is fake news for being biased against Trump. Next year when dems are in power you think they're still gonna think its MSNBC that's fake? That's the reason we allow freedom of THE PRESS and not freedom of 'the truth'. Because the truth is subjective. Freedom of the press, but only the press that is speaking the truth, isn't a freedom at all. It's just saying you can only speak if we say it's acceptable. So there's another thing the GOP is trying to destroy; the truth. They wanna win as long as they're in power, fuck their constituency when dems are in power, fuck the future, and fuck the United States of America. And you already bought it. So I shouldn't even say they're targeting that American value, for a lot of people it's already been destroyed. Some people don't even believe in freedom of speech anymore if they consider it a lie. SAD

>>731540737

can you show me one example of a radical right wing publication being critical of Trump?

>>731540812
Problem is, who gets to define what is fake news?

>>731540524
Tell that to Antifa. Was it a right winger who sicker punched Richard Spencer. Don't get me wrong, I laughed too, but I'm pretty sure that pussy didn't vote Trump.
What about the people who struck first at every pro trump event that has gone violent? Was it a bunch of Neo Nazis attackING first at Berkley?

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>>731540297
>muh fake news

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>>731540716
CNN provides straight news. Except it is quite queer.

>>731540716
True, I can't forgive Fox for their continuous misrepresentation of the facts with their infographics, selective coverage, and aggressive interview tactics by the main hosts.

Bill O'Reilly and his new replacement Tucker Carlson CONSTANTLY use strawmans and then interrupt their guests even when they try to give a thoughtful answer. Then they defend themselves by saying they want to avoid guests deflecting questions, but it's BS most of the time.

>>731540812
>>731540812

>After all, nothing is more un American than a press that us literally a propaganda arm for one party.
>implying this isn't already the case with MSM
>implying Trump doesn't get shit on 95% of the time by any media outlet
>implying they still don't praise the shit out of the clintons
>implying they still don't ride Obama's dick like he was still in the White House

Either you're dumb or you're completely oblivious to the world around you.

>>731540869

Please give me some examples of actually important shit Fox covered that MSNBC didn't.

>>731541085
>>731541085

>continuous misrepresentation of the facts with their infographics, selective coverage, and aggressive interview tactics by the main hosts.

Go on.

I'd like to hear about it.

>>731541094
Dude....you suck at reading comprehension.

>>731540922
Yeah people can decide what they want to believe, and that's why misrepresentation of the facts is so dangerous. You can make a lie look very convincing by conveniently stacking it inside statistics and real facts.

But most people don't even get that far into the article, they just read the headline, and you CANNOT deny that MSM headlines are manipulative and deceptive.

>>731535757
Su'p cuck :)

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>>731541018
CNN would never stoop to fake news.

>>731540812
here you go, and it's even british in case you dont trust american news;
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment

You can say its fake news etc.. but the constitution says “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”. If it's libel then it can be challenged in a court regardless of wheter its from the press or not. But if it isn't generally considered libel, you might need to open up the laws to make sure you can silence the critics you want.. no wonder trump likes to compliment Putin's "strong leadership" so much. Trump like the lame kid who compliments the tough kid at school because he thinks it'll make him tough.

>>731541010
of course you can point out special cases on both sides.
Look up actual statistics, how many domestic political terrorist attacks were right wingers.
Easily the majority
it's the party that cant stop talking about owning guns for fuck sake.
meanwhile liberals can't stop talking about safe spaces.
See the difference?
I know you know this.

>>731540929
Just one?
http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/05/04/paul-ryan-and-the-gop-make-lindsey-graham-look-like-benjamin-franklin/

http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/trump-calls-for-government-shutdown-over-15793731/

>>731540812
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/27/trump-wants-to-weaken-libel-laws-amid-feuds-with-reporters.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-says-amazon-will-have-such-problems-2016-2

>>731541266
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/01/a-history-of-dishonest-fox-charts/190225

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>>731541492
its only "fake news" when you post it out of context, faggot.

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>>731540922
>Some people don't even believe in freedom of speech anymore

We have a lot of these people in Berkeley.

>>731541699

uh..

glenn beck's website is the opposite of a radical right wing publication. he's basically the cuck overlord, isn't he?

the second link not only isn't a radical right wing publication, it also doesn't say anything negative whatsoever.

so.. ARE you retarded, or..?

>>731541403
>you CANNOT deny that MSM headlines are manipulative and deceptive.
I 100% agree. Even with liberal outlets, who also do it, I fucking hate it. It's a waste of time and energy, and honesly I think as a whole that sort of distraction with outrage is distacting and helping to erode our democracy. That being said, though, both sides do it. Until Breitbart and Fox agrees to stop doing it on principal, dems won't. And until both sides stop, you have to just let it keep happening. Otherwise, you start deciding what people can and can't say. Yeah honestly there needs to be a bigger solution, but even after getting lied to news outlets people turn around back around and start trusting them. Both sides. Until people agree to stop and figure that out, the culture war driven by news outlets will continue. As much as you might think liberals hate america, we really don't. It hurt me to see all this and I know being this honest just opens me up to trolling. I'll probably get a troll reply. But yeah mainstream and non-mainstream outlets are mostly biased. I can't remember the last time I've seen a biased one. I say lets find a solution but realistically this is just gonna get buried.

>>731542056
lol look at him trying to hide how he ran out of space on the wall for the word trump

>>731541699
>Glenn Beck
Lol,

I could bring up an MSNBC article critical of Clinton, that wouldn't prove they're not extremely biased towards her.
They make that article literally just so no one will point out their overwhelming silence.

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>>731541924
Ah, I should make some stooped simulations and call it news.

Got it.

>>731542056
freedom of speech means freedom from reprocusions from the government, not pissed off college twinks.

>>731542094
meh, I wanted to get you a response quickly but I don't actually follow any news sites at all. Had to google a list of conservative sites from here: http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/the-50-most-popular-conservative-websites/

and then just picked a couple at random and went by the headline.

Ann Coulter is pretty critical of trump, looking at the main page of her site. http://www.anncoulter.com/

>>731540869

Fox is the granddaddy of all Fake News.

ANYONE who watches Fox for news is completely fucking retarded.

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≥ poostz pic of trump supporters
≥ uses it against support of trump
≥ begone kike

>>731542368
Yeah and The Young Turks is critical of Obama/Clinton.

Point being...?

>>731542056
Freedom of speech includes the freedom to get offended and bitch. I don't agree with it but they're suddenly not allowed to get butthurt? if getting butthurt is a problem then /pol/ is fucked.
Honestly, though, the best thing would be if all the sane dems an same reps united against the insane extreme ones. but truth be told most would rather support their pet issue than speak against the extremists in their party.

>>731542122
Well maybe it used to be the case that people trusted MSM after being lied to, but that's not the case anymore with the internet genie being let out of the bottle. Young people don't buy newspapers or watch TV anymore so they're not held hostage to a limited number of choices for their news.

But... there's an alarming trend I've seen on the internet of big companies letting themselves be corrupted by advertisers, i.e. youtube, facebook, google.

>>731542575
"can you show me one example of a radical right wing publication being critical of Trump?"
My point was an attempt to respond to this request, which was a response to:
>>731540737

>>731542276
perhaps you should read the article before making snap judgements. it's based on a what if scenario. those pictures were used to help illustrate their point so knobs like you can understand.

>>731542744
Yeah but you also said the same can't be said of the radical left.

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>>731542746
Global warming alarmist prediction articles piss me off. Almost as much as clickbait fake science headlines. It definitely falls under the category of fake news considering the volume of predictions that haven't come true the past 50 years.

800000 people dropped cable in the last quarter?

>>731542938
yolo

>>731542882
Because by degrees the left is far less likely to criticize a left-wing president than the right is to criticize a republican president. That's just the way it is, the republican party is full of thinkers and they're divided, the democratic party is full of feelers and they're united.

>>731542920

>98% consensus
>fake news

pick one

every month for the past 15 months has been the hottest on record.

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>>731543230
Where?

>>731534110
Wow, election was like 6 months ago. Hillary lost. Eat a bag of fat nigger dicks you kike.

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>>731543131
>the republican party is full of thinkers
TOP KEK

>>731542920

Eat a bullet. You have reached a level of retarded that warrants the termination of your rights to consume our oxygen.

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>>731543131

>the Republican Party is full of thinkers

>anti-science
>doesn't believe in evolution
>90% of the chemtrails nutters
>80% of the anti-vaxx nutters
>anti-education
>extremely religious
>nearly 100% of creationists
>"alternative facts"

What the fuck do they "think" about? Does it even register on an EEG?

>>731543398
http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/24/seven-big-failed-environmentalist-predictions/

>>731542628
Yes and no. People are certainly more scrutinizing, but they don't outright not trust them. I mean think about it. If you don't trust any news source, then you don't have any sources for news. Newsreaders are a helpless market, if everyone is biased they have no choice but to pick one. The simple solution would be a non-biased news source but everyone is subject to bias so how do you do that? One news source that covers articles from a leftist and rightist perspective? That could be awesome, but then again theres the problem of no one actually wanting to do it.

Also most companies are like that, arent they? I mean that's the thing about capitalism; it isnt about right or wrong, dem or rep, up or down. It's about profits. If everyone in the country is a liberal, then during christmas the coca cola polar bear will be wearing a 'i stand with her' button. if its rep, he'll have a 'MAGA' button instead.

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>>731542301
Good to know I can go beat up commie faggots if they try to speak.

Got it.

>>731543616
Can you kindly f*ck off please?
You're making my favorite thread today die prematurely.

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The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>731543610

>thefederalist

You DO know that's a far-right fake news rag that's chock full of pure bullshit, right?

>>731543595
>>731543362
And what are you doing with your life with that snazzy bachelor of arts degree, friend? Are you even earning more than the average truck driver?

>>731537888
If this isn't a joke then wtf.

If we had an election today, NEITHER Hillary NOR Trump would be on the fucking ticket.

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>>731543131
Oh man that is just so wrong.
Half of the Democratic party is reeeally close to just saying fuck you corporate hacks and leaving.
The right is similar, it has some libertarians who actually have principles, then it has corporate hacks to represent them.
You see that saying things like "Republicans as people are better in X Y Z ways" is exactly what the people who own both parties, the donor class, love that petty Us/Them thinking. Divide and conquer.

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>>731543718

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

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>>731540922
Why would I be mad?

>>731538692
Bush was bad because we had mostly good presidents to compare him with, most of us would LOVE to see Bush in power right now.

The people who are still rooting for Trump are just doubling down on a bad bet.

>>731543899
The last refuge of a man with no ability to critically think. Keep closing your mind.

>>731543645
No I don't think it's good to cover every story from "both sides" to be "fair and balanced" that leads to an annoying logical fallacy that both sides have equal or comparable value regardless of their respective merits, which (in turn) can lead to the conclusion that the answer to a problem is always to be found between two extremes.

It's better to just report important events as they happen, do real investigation instead of just relying on tweets and quotes.

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>>731543751
>I-I b-bet you d-don't even h-have a r-real d-degree!
>I-I'm n-not b-btfo g-guis!

>>731543751

I'm in a challenging and fulfilling career where I work with people I have great respect for and who respect me back.

I make a LOT more than the average know-nothing.

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>>731544048

>>731537888

Jesus Christ you are fucking scary levels of delusional.

Here I thought only Betsy DeVos was retarded enough to think that an approval rating lower than 40% means "most people like him".

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>>731543718
LOL more of this. You guys say if you want to succeed then you have to earn it, life is tough and you'll never get anything handed to you. Then when life sucks for your fellow people you complain that they don't wanna procreate. Meanwhile other people are actually nice to one another and form communities and support each other and you guys get paranoid and think they're scheming to destroy you. No, you just are your own worst enemy. Don't make life so hard for your fellow countrymen and people will have nothing to do but procreate. I'm not even white but I see this shit and lol

ALSO MFW MY ANTI-TRUMPKIN THREAD GETS FLOODED BY PICTURES OF FOREIGNERS. MAKE JAPAN GREAT AGAIN!~!

>>731544007

It's hard to argue when you're guffawing at the top of your lungs at something a conspiracy nut retard posted.

>>731543874
Well if that's true, you can thank Trump's victory and Hillary's failure for finally opening their eyes because that definitely wasn't the case a year ago.

>>731544274
I like how you are spamming these cute asian girls in threads you don't like

Just link me to the thread you are going to do next because I like your pics

>>731542575
Young Turks are brain dead morons.

>>731544168

Your opinion is so far beneath my contempt I couldn't care less what you think. You're like an ant to me.

>>731544301
Headline on drudge, i read it. He is right.

>>731543929
Because that picture you're championing is from five months ago. That's 94 days. 94 days and the best accomplishment you have is losing the popular vote but gerrymandering your way to victory. Go america lmao

>>731544546

Not nearly as bad as literally anyone on the right.

>>731543131
this has to be a troll, no one is this delusional... right?!?!

>>731544048
I literally did the opposite of what you're parodying?
I assumed you DID have a degree with my post, but I recognize the lack of value degrees have nowadays as you should too.

>>731544570

>drudge

And can you find any REAL news sources to corroborate it?

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>>731543595
>being this out of touch
Your 90's pic matches your political opinion.
No wonder you guys lost the house, senate, and presidency.

>>731543425
>>731543751
Yerr demmocrats with yer stupid "knowledge", since when knowledge ever do any good dumb dumb? Alls me need is ma moonshine.

>>731544762

>out of touch

I dare you to TRY refuting a single one of those points.

>>731544113
I didn't ask you to compare yourself to the "average know-nothing" because whatever that is, there aren't any statistics for it.

"The median annual wage for a trucker that works for a private fleet, such as a truck driver employed by Walmart, is $73,000, according to ATA. The Labor Department pegs the median annual salary for all truck drivers at around $40,000."

How does it feel to learn that you spent 4 years of your life or more working towards a career that doesn't pay more than driving a truck?

>>731544674
>bachelor of arts
>real degree
pick one and only one

>>731544012
Eh.. but investigation always has to have a bias. Saying to just do real investigations doesn't fix the problem. You just pushed the problem one step away. You still have to figure out how to investigate and report on abortion with absolutely no bias. No matter how easy you think it is, it isn't.

>>731544722
No, because any source that anon links you to that runs such a story will automatically be considered fake by you because
>muh bias

>>731544365
Japan is pretty great tbh... I wish America would let itself homogenize by shutting down immigration for a few centuries. Maybe even a thousand years and a couple genocides would be necessary to finally curb black crime and other problems that are caused by race and culture conflict.

>>731535672
>China and India has been producing magnitudes more pollution than we have for a long time

to be fair they are both working on reducing pollution. but you are right. 4 years isn't going to make or break us. As a libral I'm not really sure where to be focused right now. Health care is short term important - I'm self employed, my wife had a kidney transplant - and were paying about $2k a month right now for shitty insurance. I'm not looking forward to getting hit with a $4k a month bill that we need to have. I might have to close my small business and go work for a corp again. If that happens, I truly wish cancer on trump.

Long term - deficits are fucked, rich poor gap is getting larger, corps are getting increasingly granular in their ability to sell shit to people who don't need more stuff. I don't want to end up with a country that looks like some shithole 3rd world latin american "Democracy".

I wish republicans would stop voting against their class - especially the cunts in MI /OH / PENN who broke with the unions. But who knows. Maybe they need a decade of having everything taken away from them by the GOP till they wake the fuck up. or die off.

>>731544481
Nope, wrong again, act like you know the Democratic party when you probably have done zero research on it's history.
The Clinton 'wing' of the democratic party has run it since the 90's, using a strategy of adopting republican policy positions while keeping the Dems on your side.
For example, Bernie lead the charge against Iraq war, because many Democrats are actually against war, unlike Clinton.

You can't just say 'pfft Democrats tend to be close-minded, Republicans are free thinkers'

Do you see how your willingness to draw a shitty conclusion like that just proves you're close-minded

>>731534110
What if that was his plan all along...

>>731545151
>The Clinton 'wing' of the democratic party has run it since the 90's
>Lost to Obama in 2008

"run" is a bit strong

>>731544661
What does that matter? You watch them for what they say or merely because other people are worse?

All you need to understand about the Toung Turks is that they are not smart or original or creative, if they reach a conclusion it will not be for the right reasons.
You are always better off not listening to them.

I really don't mind their politics but they are so fucking stupid it's mind blowing how you guys don't see it from watching them for a minute.

>>731539930
both sides do this
literally any of these protests will always have a little line of people on both ends trying to start shit

every tactic that works gets used. clearly both the left and the right have mastered spin.

>>731544877
Liberal Arts and applied professional programs both use the same textbooks. The education itself isn't any less rigorous, it's just the alternative programs offered that make it a joke, like philosophy and the humanities.

A bachelor of arts in Physics holds the same intellectual weight as a bachelor of science.

>>731540065
How is it solved?

>>731545032
High suicide rates, so many antisocial people they need to pay people to cuddle/talk to them, gr8 shit

>>731544855

1. nice assumption, but I make more than that.

2. I already told you, I really enjoy what I do, the people I work with and the life it affords me. Why would I give a fuck to learn if some others made similar amounts?

>>731544883
I would report on the real life effects and outcomes of abortion culture, good and bad. How it's affecting how people perceive the value of a human life and the status of the traditional family and also how it's helping to curb the problems of single motherhood and poverty. The economic effects I would analyze with case studies, taking two similar GDP economies from other countries at one point in time and how they changed with the implementation of abortion policy. It would take a lot of time to put together, but it would be real news if my research came up with definitive answers.

>>731540297
and yet for years he endorsed a fanatic idea about our 44th president being born in kenya which created a massive stir of fake news and social media momentum upon which he eventually based his campaign tactics huh wow hypocrisy no way that would be a legit first for him woo hey

>>731545322
Homogeneity doesn't increase suicide rates by itself... that's a consequence of their specific culture's values.

>>731545151
I didn't say they were closed minded, I said they were feelers.
They make decisions based on impulse and what satisfies their guilt complex

This kind of thing is pointless. Supporting Trump has "fucking retard" as part of the system requirements. Anything you say regarding Trump's destruction of the nation is going to go over their heads, or be preaching to choir.

>>731545218
If you remember 08' Obama actually ran as a progressive, beat Clinton initially by out-campaigning her, then by settling with her and her donors.

He made her secretary of state right after despite her lack of/bad experience, wonder fucking why.

>>731544877

Anyone who has ever made the claim that there are "fake degrees" is a butthurt, braindead crybaby who has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

It's nothing but the fox and the grapes.

EVERY degree is worthwhile and involves general education, time and resource allocation, etc. It's a well-rounded education that proves you're determined. This is why the old adage "even a degree in basketweaving is better than nothing" rings true to this day. People with degrees are selected FAR more than those without and they make more too.


But please do keep making fun of B.A.s and "women's studies" majors. We enjoy laughing at how fucking stupid you all are.

>>731545519
You will give a fug when the stress causes you to go bald and suffer health problems, while people who have less responsibility will live longer, happier lives and breed more than you.

>>731543718
There's no one else but us.
Every governing body we look up to is for their own selfish needs.
We hold the key to true free enterpside

>>731545633
I still don't see Obama as a true American because of his father's side of the family and Obama having grown up in Hawaii, a completely different culture from the mainland.

>>731545841
t. barista

>>731545765
you essentially described dems the way i think of republicans

imo decisions based on impulse and decisions based on a guilt complex (i.e. ego) are two entirely different things and require different considerations

>>731546054
that is very silly. america is made up of unique stories. you reduce our identity as a free nation to..what?

>>731545928

LOL projecting much?

>hurr durr uneducated people are healthier and get more pussy!

>>731544615
>5 months
>94 days

checks out.

>>731539930
i dont think ive seen a single act of violence involving somone wearing democrat or hillary hats/shirts/buttons

I have sympathy for your point (ie im sure many democrat supporters see all violence on the right as directly related to trump but not vice versa) but there is the fact that most (all?) of the violent lefty people tend to be anarchist/communist fuckboys and some people involved in violence on the right wear MAGA hats

>>731546041
We are slaves, white, black, yellow, tan, no matter the cause, we are divided by main stream media.

>>731545765
You're basing that off SJW, who are mostly lefites, but a GUARANTEE you there is an ignorant-as-confederate flag-fuck republican for every SJW liberal.

Do you see how you don't really say anything about the Republican/Democratic party when you just pick extremes?
Say it again, Us/Them thinking.

>I'm not worried I just need to make a thread about him and reiterate the same tired points over and over so much that I've indoctrinated myself into honestly believing it

>>731546041
>enterpside

oh my fuck kill your faggot self

>>731546208
how are egotism and guilt related exactly?

>>731546361

No, the dividers have been the Republican Party for going on 40 years now.

>>731539533
Freedom of speech/freedom of the press for one. Trump himself said the Constitution is getting in his way. There's two big core AMERICAN VALUES

>making /pol/ sound reasonable
We did it reddit!

>>731546289
Why do you keep equating my groupings of people with the "uneducated"? I said "People with less responsibility"
Stop forming strawmen to attack, jerko.

>>731546473
i would ask for an example from you to go on first, but i usually don't think of either side as governing on impulse, for one thing.

...but rather on guilt, largely guided by a series of decisions made to please other people they feel they could hurt personally. their ego is in turn, boosted by earning their increasing approval. i'm sure trump has daddy issues, as does obama.

>>731546362
Are there liberals that don't subscribe to the social justice ideology?

>>731545532
>I would report on the real life effects and outcomes of abortion culture, good and bad
But you're not reporting on lack-of-abortion culture? You're not reporting on the people for whom abortion isn't an option? Then you have nothing to compare abortion culture to.

>How it's affecting how people perceive the value of a human life and the status of the traditional family and also how it's helping to curb the problems of single motherhood and poverty.
Okay the connection to single motherhood is direct in my eyes, but what about the connection to succsess? How many unwanted kids ended up taking that shitiness and turning it into succsess? How many mistreated people used that fire in their brains to become a badass success story instead of the reason why abortion should be legal? Sometimes shitty circumstances makes great people. In fact, that happens surprisingly often. Cushy circumstances just seems to make weaker people. And etc etc. You get what I'm saying. I'm inclined to agree with you, but what I just said is the first comment on that article. Those are the very first objections. After getting to think about it for 24 hours, you'd bet the thousands of people who read your article would have a lot more shit to throw at it. Point being, it still isn't un-biased. But maybe, if you had a ying and yang approach someone like me would come along, point out those shortcomings, and the write an article about them. You combine the two and BOOM, you got an article that's less biased than most of the competition. I dont think its' possible to be totally unbiased, but you can at least do that much. Fuck if anyone wants to do that, I'd totally be down. I know you dont agree but the more I think about this, the more I think it'd be the way forward.

>>731546723
yes i've been dealing with that shit since 2011. that's when i first remember the "new != racism" definition popping up.

>>731546673
When I bring up guilt, I'm mostly referring to white guilt by the way. The idea that white people are evil monsters that have robbed minorities of everything and need to pay for their sins.

>>731546795
I can't report on lack-of-abortion culture because in our country abortion is legal. I have to present reality as it is here, then provide a contrasting reality with my comparison of other countries that don't have abortion as an option, because that's their reality.

As for how many aborted kids take their lemons and turn them into lemonade, I'd say it's roughly zero.

>>731546723

The vast majority don't.

SJWs are a tiny fringe minority with zero power. Kind of like how the white supremacist subhumans USED to be the fringe minority of the right.

>>731545765
>They make decisions based on impulse and what satisfies their guilt complex
You think republicans don't make decision on what satisfies their impulse and victim complex? There's a war on everything. Christmas, cops, guns, etc. There's a war on everything but the places where our soldiers are bleeding American blood for no good reason. Incidentally we(as a country) rarely get as mad over homeless vets as we are over starbucks putting tinsel on their cups.

>>731546806
sure, i get that. and i'm positive that guides some legislation. but there's guilt on repubs' side too. i see it in trump, and mitch mcconnell's sad turtle face. paul ryan not so much i dunno.

what more do you campaign on than the potential to help people and the sheer impossibility that you'll fail? what else guides your decisions as a person who governs than what a person needs

>>731547021
Then how do you explain social justice's prevalence in the sphere of academia?

also R.I.P. thread

>>731546723
>>731546803

I think it's more of a culture-wide thing in ways.
This country has become more of a safe-space with every bullshit lawsuit, laywers turned us into infants so thats what we've become

High school bullying is a great example, pussies on both sides of the isle whine and implement some dumb, knee-jerk anti-bullying sensitivity shit.

Also blacks had seperate bathrooms less than 60 years ago can we tolerate over-sensitivity about racism for ten fucking seconds? It's bullshit but much less so than race theories that dominated for centuries

>>731547209
ran out of fashion trends in late capitalism, turned to social trends via shame experiments

>>731547199
There are an individual's needs, and then there are the country's needs. I think it's important to see people as statistics sometimes instead of kowtowing to the petty desires of your naive voters.