Unpopular opinion thread: Addiction is not a disease. Just like

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>>731302084
I mean, you are scientifically wrong. It's not actually a topic up for debate. You see - People in the world that attended education to a high enough degree got to debate topics like this and decided in this case all of the things you have described are in fact diseases.

Medically, it makes sense these are all in face diseases.

Realistically, you are infact a retard.

Nice bait, m8.

Also higher education should be mandatory. Instead of going only to grade 12 there should be forced soloing till at least 21 preferably 25.

>>731302526
Science can say whatever to make themselves feel good but it doesn't change the fact that some people don't have a choice. They're just born with brain cancer. How is that even kind of the same?

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I'm for all drugs being legalized though. It's stupid to waste our LEOs time on drugs that are only killing the people using them. Also opens up the market to capitalize on the folks who get hooked and don't have the mental capacity to stop. I definitely think the drugs should be controlled by the government though so there's no mixing of pointless shit.

>>731302772
Nowhere in the definition of 'disease' does it say 'not a choice'. Your argument, at this point, means nothing.

>>731303128
Next thing you're gonna say is these people should feel entitled to our tax dollars like someone succumbing to old age or a baby being born. Not the same. They can pay for their narcan themselves.

Also I'm for complete police reform. Use them as sparingly as possible. Don't put these men's lives in danger. Buy a gun yourself. When someone robs you, kill him then call the police when everythings safe and let them do the paper work. They better be wearing their body cam though, I want cameras and mics all over to let the masses get a intimate look at what a good job our LEOs do. Won't have none of these men getting fired for racism when we can see and hear every little detail that goes on in every situation.

>>731302084
Time to go back to school asshole.

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More guns too. Teach marksmanship in school along with basic military qualities.

>>731304251
To get indoctrinated by some psychpath that will bust kids in the head with locks like the teachers from Berkeley? I think I'm fine with the 16years on my belt now.

>>731302526
Some people are born predisposed to be addicts, genetics and environment contribute to this. I agree people get themselves into this and are idiots for this reason and should shoulder the blame for their situation but it is scientifically a disease just as diabetes is an identifiable but preventable illness. I'm am addict and again I do agree people play a huge role in this type of thing

America needs to be more isolationist. Our idiot in chief is getting us in deeper. We need to get our boys out of there and tell the UN to do their damn part. The US is not the world police and I'm tired of my tax money going to killing ragheads when they're doing a fine job at it themselves. Stop making new veterans, we can't take care of the ones we have!

>>731304463
Lol underage with an opinion

>>731304684
Treatment wouldn't be so damn expensive to help you guys if they're was an open market. Healthy people don't buy drug treatment. Addicted people do. Addicted people generally have no money in my experience. So with an open market drug treatment should cost about 3 broke buttons and all your pocket lint.

But the government everywhere in the world is fucked so costs of life saving treatment skyrocket.

>>731302084
Agree OP.

>>731303442
>Shit I'm losing the argument...
>Oh I know, I'll invite a separate topic into the discussion through insult so I can cover up up my first insufficiently supported argument.
Inb4 "WELL I DO MAKE A GOOD POINT BECAUSE..."

>>731304923
How could I have been to school for a total of 16 years and be under age? I mean what are your limits?

>>731305192
Granted, I went to a middle class outpatient program at wake forrest batist hospital that was really good. Tbh treatment without AA/NA or some kind of aftercare recovery program only works like 10% of the time so there's another thing they don't tell you. That's why you see people doing treatment like 6 times at crappy places

>>731305324
There was no insult in that bud just words.
>let's act like multiple topics aren't part of a flowing conversation
>hurr durr ok

>>731305683
I've heard good things about AA/NA. That's true with anything traumatizing though. Support of people who really care and have been through something close to what you've experienced alleviates a lot of problems I imagine.

I have no sympathy for fat people which is kinda fucked up since I eat like shit but my metabolism has saved my ass from being fat. I don't buy genetics shit, and am pretty callous with fat people

>>731306175
Yea ot works if you work it bro, just most people aren't willing to give up old beliefs. But my life was so lousy I just didn't give a fuck about that shit

>>731302084
y'know what else is an opinion?
OP is a faggot
>does anyone disagree with this?

>>731302084
>>731305541
>>731306303
what is it with you niggers never charging their phones?

>>731302084
You are sick, stop masturbating

>>731306187
Even a good metabolism can't stop it forever. Eat healthy if you enjoy your son and teeth. Is that Snickers now worth a chip in your canine 3 years from now?

Get some sweet protein mixes for sugar cravings and start slathering hot sauce on everything you eat normally. After a while start eating like a health nut while still covering in hot sauce. It makes transitioning easier. You'll start feeling like a god in a month or so. Especially if you working out too. It's worth it man.

>>731306187
that explains alot, you're under 30. give it time. hubris.

>>731306999
Op here, healthy, fit, and drug free 27 year old American

>>731307292
>children

>>731307469
No children, gf of 4 years thinks the idea of children is disgusting. We both like money and time too much for a child

No one else has any unpopular opinions on 4chan. Apparently everyone is just some cuck drug abuser.

>>731302084
Is that girl called Rachel?

>>731307967
Nahh Caitllyn, I've got more just switched it up

>>731308553
More stunning lady

>>731305192
That's not how anything works....

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>>731309011
Porn dump it is then

>>731309011
You mean to tell me if you wanna sell X for $100 but no one buys it they'll just take a loss on everything and no one gets X?

It seems to me like if no one spent $100 I'd move my prices down till I got business often enough to draw profit repeatedly and frequently as possible.

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>Addiction is not a disease

>It's like heart disease

Pick one you fucking retard.

>>731309685
I can't change a proper name for something regardless of my feelings on if it's a correct name or not. Would my point come across the same if I left the latter part of the name from my sentence?

>>731309447
There's a reason most of the private rehab centers target the upper middle class and the rich. There's no money to be made giving treatment to those who cant afford it. Sure you can reduce prices, but rehabilitation centers cost a lot of money to operate, so you can only reduce prices so much. There's no way you can reduce prices to levels that homeless addicts can afford, and still turn a profit.

>>731302582
no i disagree.
but people that do not receive higher education should be castrated and be make to be unable to have children

>>731303030
this.
would stop a lot of crime. and get a few morons out the gene pool

>>731310429
This guy gets it. healthcare without profit wouldn't work at all. That'd be like providing schools to children for free or picking up garbage weekly as a service to the community

Unpopular opinion: Taylor Swift is not attractive. At all.

>>731302084
Whats the problem with a disease being a consequence of a chice? Aéso, you dont HAVE to go to rehab, but you gon die otherwise. Choice as you said.

UO: Attackers should be able to decide which spell they're attacking when going after an opponent in MTG.

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Battlefield 1 fucking suuuuuucks

>>731302084
Are you saying cancer is not a disease because smoking can cause it?

>>731310658
I can get behind it. I was thinking of jailing the parents if children didn't go to school but that would be agreeable to me. (Op)

>>731302084
transgender people can literally go kill themselves. its pathetic!

If it has a penis it is a male.

Also Fuck america.

Yellow starburst is by far the best flavor

>>731311275
I'm saying it's more of a result from a choice than a disease when comparing it to someone born with brain cancer.

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we need a tenth crusade

>>731311499
What about organisms that can change sexes?

>>731302772
yeah those stupid science bitches... they ain't be knowin' shit.
anyway, addictive drugs change the biology of the user. this is why withdrawals are a thing (and they aren't just mental withdrawals)

masturbation is more pleasurable and less stressful than having sex with another human being

>>731311618
Yes, but do you think that lung cancer is not a disease? or do you just think that it is not a disease when someone gets it from smoking, or what? This is equivalent to the addiction argument.

>>731310658
I feel like they should meet certain requirements to have children like an income able to sustain a family. They should be limited to 2 kids, they need insurance etc.

>>731311420
This way they would die out within a generation with it still seeming "humane"

Or parents should have to pass a mandatory I.Q. exam to be able to reproduc

>>731311499
Eh if they off themselves because they don't like how other people feel about them let them go.

People are constantly shitty to everyone. It's not because you're an obvious dude wearing panties.

>>731311818
I somewhat agree with this

>>731311618
>>731311839
And, to clarify things...you say "more from choice than disease", but you need to make it clear. Which is it?

>>731311642
Good for them.

Humans on the other hand have xx or xy chromosomes.
I really dont mind if you want to put on high heels and call yourself Mary but its an attention seeking game now. its snowflakes that want to be special.

yes admittedly there is like 0.001% that would need some surgical whatever to help them.
but for fuck sakes its getting beyond pathetic

>>731311839
If someone gets lung cancer from living down wind from some plant polluting the air then I would say they deserve help. It's not feasible to pick up the family and leave so you get shit on. Get with the community and sue the cause.

Not shooting dope in your arm even once is a choice.

I recognize the medical similarities between them but the opportunity for choice is the great divider in my mind.

Same for any stupid choice. Let a wrecked drunk driver die before wasting an ambulance that could save a gunshot victim.

>>731312232
You should read a little more about human sex chromosomes. What about conditions like Klinefelter's?

>>731311980
Yea depending on the month. I jerk it all winter then come out to disappoint bar girls all summer.

>>731311875
no dude they should go kill themselves.. its a joke how batshit menal people have gotten
>>731312232(me)

>>731312456
>yes admittedly there is like 0.001% that would need some surgical whatever to help them.

>>731312579
You completely missed the part about reading about human sex chromosomes. Humans are not necessarily XX or XY. Stop acting like you know something.

>>731311676
No one's housing that fact though. Like mayne people should think about that before trying drugs the first time!

People like to think shit that can literally change your brain chemistry is a joke and something to have fun with.

>>731311869
Yep can get behind both of these.

>>731312305
I think you are confused about what disease means, then, sir. You seem to be under the impression that something being classified as a disease means that it absolves a person from any blame or responsibility if they themselves caused it. It has nothing to do with responsibility, however. If i inject aids right into my bloodstream, I now have that disease. It does not change into some other classification because I was the cause. See what I mean? I get your point, as it sounds like calling something a disease means it's not their fault, and it is true that people do use it as an excuse, but medically speaking that is not what it means to be a disease.

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There's something hot about a girl who smokes cigarettes. Something almost elegant. It's like those dames in noire movies whose legs went on for days.
>BUT YELLOW TEETH
Just brush them at least once a day, fuck it, it's not like I've ever turned down sex because of a girl's dental records
>BUT KISSING THEM TASTES YUCKY
Making out is kinda inherently gross. Either I taste stale tobacco or whatever she had to eat last.
>BUT CANCER
It happens to 1/2 men and 1/3 women. She'll probably end up with cancer somehow.

>>731312679
put your penis away sarah

>>731313356
Judging by your comment, I'll accept your admission that you were wrong. It's OK, anon. You learned something today.

>>731313309
Fucking them is alright, but being in a relationship is terrible.

>>731313046
I can see what you're saying and I already understood that but I was annoyed by some people in my area. I can recognize that I did phrase it incorrectly though. I was just regurgitating the same phrase I've saw elsewhere. I really mean IMO ailements considered disease but with a cause based on a person's choice should go to the back of the line behind anyone not having a choice in their situation and they shouldn't feel entitled to tax payers help to subsidize cost. That would have been clearer. But "addiction is not a disease" was just easier.

>>731302772
>anything you choose to do can't lead to getting a disease
Anon, pretending to be retarded isn't bait. It's just fucking retarded.

>>731302084
Disease- a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury:

notice the lack of terms regarding "choice"