Why do the left refuse to accept that the middle East is more

>>731264252

I'm a left winger and fuck all forms of backwards shit ass religion.

Because they're potential voters?

>>731264252
Yes, because all refugees are extremists.

Because, as someone said over 30 years ago:

> Diversity is code for white genocide

>>731264252
Ehh this is where it gets dicey... on one hand, they are trying to escape hell on earth. Considering that every time there has been a crisis, America has been on the wrong side of history, I think that it is a good move to allow them in. BUT, I do also realize that these people hold archaic beliefs that are not in the same vein as our own. I all for blocking immigrants from countries that pose threats to American democracy... like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Libya, Russia etc. I am not, however, down to block refugees based on religion. I'm kind of on the fence.

>>731264469
exactly, they are almost 100% muslim

>>731264453
Because they are debtless humans that can accept new debt. We live in a debt based system that requires as many people as possible to increase their debt load.

>>731264469
They are.

>>731264252
Liberals in Sweden support rapists

>>731264252
I don't think anyone deludes themselves into not seeing that.

But just because you're people are retarded and racist, doesn't mean they deserve to be left in a war torn country with little to no resources to help them survive.

I mean, we allow the KKK and neo-nazis to stay in our country, and they're almost the same thing.

>>731264757
>rapists
they are muslim they don't understand rape

>>731264664
>>731264638
And all Christians are fundamental radicalists crusading the country side.

>>731264787
>we allow the KKK and neo-nazis to stay in our country, and they're almost the same thing
except they were born here and are Americans you idiot

>>731264469
Same argument from the left. 15-25% of all muslims are extremists according to all intelligence agencies in the world. Brainwashed and delusional cucks like you are the reason our countries are fucked. Politicans are too afraid to be called racists.

Stand up for your country.

>>731264787
That's the sad truth, we'll gladly support them in their home countries. Again, the peaceful majority is irrelevant.

>>731264787
>KKK and neo-nazis

Mass shooting, suicide bomb or car-through-a-crowd attack when?

>>731264970
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/27/new-europe-survey-finds-44-of-muslims-believe-in-islamic-fundamentalism/

>>731264469
Unless they are actively denouncing the extremists, as well as proving that it isn't just empty words for the condemnations (having the clergy excimmunicate the offenders, having law enforcement arrest or kill the terrorists) then while they may not be extremists themselves, they are at least a silent supporter, which makes them just as guilty.
Only the mouthpieces of groups like CAIR claim to denounce Muslim violence but in reality support it - they make no attempt to hide where their funding comes from - known groups with terrorist ties.

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Oh we're still on about democrats and hillary

>>731264970
>implying that's a bad thing

>>731264469
Those beliefs are not radical or extremist at all. Nearly every Muslim country has laws or traditions that facilitate every single one of those things.

>>731264618
I'm sorry to tell you, but Islam *is* a threat to western civilization. 15-25% of all 1,8 billion muslims are extremists that justify the destruction of western civilization.

>>731265261
What?

I hate rednecks because they hate gay people. Muslims are okay because they just want to kill gay people.

>>731265342
all religion when practiced in a conservative sense are a threat to western democracy. Reformed theists are not.

>>731265288
so do most Christians if we're being honest.

>>731265433
Kek

>>731264970
I wish they would retake Constantinople. I'm still pissed about that.

>>731264252
Over-generalization. Only 75% of muslims are extremists.

>>731264638
Dude, have you ever actually met a Muslim, or are you basing all your Muslim opinions on what the (very Christian right wing) press tells you about the extremists?

>>731264252
In a word, racism. The regressive left is racist in the extreme- their anti-white hatred allows them to ally themselves with any group or ideology so long as its adherents are brown and hostile to white Western values.

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>>731265261

i don't own a tv or read the news, but i hear this a lot from people on "the right"

but meanwhile, my girlfriend loves fox news. and every single day it's story after story of how obama was a bad stinky butthead. like, i get it, he wasn't your favorite president, move the fuck on and get to the news.

how is it different? sounds like the same whiny bitching i hear about hillary losing.

Why does the Right spend so much time worrying about the Left?

Maybe promote your OWN ideas- if you have any.

>>731264618

They oppose democracy because of their religion. Look, if you read the fucking manual, it gives clear instructions. No, you don't need to read Arabic to understand it. No, it isn't open to widely variant interpretations. No, it isn't just like other religions.

It is a fucking instruction manual for genocide.

There is more anti-Semitism in the Quran than Mein Kampf, and that's a fact.

There are Muslims who want to martyr themselves, and there are Muslims who are content to wait for other Muslims to martyr themselves, and there are benign people who have no interest in following their religion. Please note that "not practicing" is not a form of Islam, it is the rejection of Islam. There is no such thing as a "non-practicing Muslim".

This is the problem. They know exactly why they hate us, and half of us can't figure out howto respond because we've been sociologically neutered. Get with the program.

>>731264787

THEY made the country war-torn. They aren't victims of the god damned system, THEY'RE THE GOD DAMNED SYSTEM.

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>>731264252

>>731265434
Not necessarily, christianity and other religions aren't really anti-progressive and they adapt, but for some reason Islam is just becoming more and more extremist for each generation.

>>731264252
no one is making this argument tho....

>>731265575
Because of persistent violent attacks, faggot.

>>731264658
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

>>731265469
>Muslims believe women have no rights and all non-believers should die
>Christians believe women should be more traditional and have rights to not be and that everyone should convert to their religion so that they can be saved from hell
>"hurrr theyre exactly the same!"

>>731265469
No Christian country in recent history has repressed gays and non-christians to the extent that every Muslim country does.
>>731265533
I'm basing my opinion off of what the book I read that they follow to the letter tells them.

>>731265575
Because the left is *dangerous*, just look at antifa.

>>731264757
>Liberals in Sweden support rapists
No, Islamophobic idiots who don't understand how statistics are compiled support spreading this heavily debunked bullshit.

Sweden does not have the highest rate of rape, it has a very good rape system, people are much more willing to come forward and report it, the threshold for what is considered rape is lower, and they count things differently (a gang rape or spousal rape = multiple rapes). Oh, and the rape rate actually went down as the immigrant rate went up.

You can't compare crime statistics between countries without checking they're actually measuring the same thing. But I guess that doesn't fit your "the Muslims are bad" narrative.

>>731265631
They've always been extremist.

>>731265568
yeah the whining never stops on either side tbh.

nor does the moral up-onemanship.

it gets pretty old for the rest of us who aren't retarded enough to fall for the partisan meme.

>>731265615
I hope you're joking.

>>731265008
That's enough nationalism for the day.

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>>731265469
its 2017.

>>731265575
Republicans keep failing. When Dems had the majority in Congress, they got tons done.

The GOP can't even compromise on getting rid of Obamacare. It's pretty funny.

>>731265631

The Bible is many books, written by many people, in many languages, over many centuries.

The Quran is one book, authored by one person, in one language, for all time. Period.

The reason the Bible can be modernized is because it leaves that door open. The Quran closes it and blockades the door. Not only is it not your human right to reject Islam, it is the right of Islam to enslave you - in fact, it is the obligation of Islam to enslave you.

Consider the following: I have been told by the Almighty Creator of the Universe that you are bad. I believe with every essence of my being in what I've been told. What logical conclusion do you think that is heading toward? What encounter with modernity do you think will short-circuit that pathway?

The answer is few to none.

>>731265905
winner, winner, chicken dinner

>>731264618
>Considering that every time there has been a crisis, America has been on the wrong side of history
kek
WWII?!

>>731265152
>forgetting the thousands of lynched black people
But t-t-that's not terrorism because it doesn't fit my racist agenda.

>>731264658
Well that a point of flawed logic, under Islamic law you can't make money on the lending of money, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUHLpKZkwOg&t=152s, so that's not going to work out to well

>>731265792
Is this true? I've seen studies showing the contrary

>>731266000
When is the last time we had a good lynching?

>>731265936

Every inner city in the US has been run by Democrats for 50 years. Every broken, crack-infected, junkie-ridden garbage heap of an inner city. Yea, good job, atta'boy.

>>731265631
Anyone who believes this is true, both about christianity and islam, needs to read a fuckin history book.

It's true Christianity in the west is currently a more progressive religion than Islam, but it isn't like this an evolved state it's reached and Islam hasn't.

Both religions are on something of a idealological retrograde from an earlier, more sensible state.

>>731265987
>implying that things are black and white, good and bad
Japanese internment camps?

>>731265829
Christianity or Islam? If you're talking about Islam, I agree with you.

>>731264252
Their racism is simply a product of social injustice and social inequality. They are racist because you are better off than they are, and that's what needs to be corrected. Once everyone is equal there will be no reason for anyone to discriminate against anyone else.

This is all a leftist lie of course.

>>731266119
>Not an evolved state
>One of the religions reformed to better suit the modern western world
>One of the religions is the same shit since it was founded
Hmmm

>>731266104
Yeah because trailer parks in the south are places of innovation and learning. Your logic is flawed.

The funny thing is that christians completely miss that Islam is extremely similar to old school christianity in terms of repression. Christianity derived from the middle east which they conveniently forget. If they were to see what jesus actually looked like (middle eastern) they would shit themselves and refuse to believe it. they've become so disconnected and it's now just a team they're on and a habit from their parents that they feel the need to keep.

>>731266170
If we go to war with China I would hope we would round up all people of Chinese descent in this country and put them in a detainment camp. Or we could just send them all to California.

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>>731265936

>>731266170

They had warm water in their showers, as opposed to Zyklon-B. Yes, we had slavery. We also abolished slavery prior to many countries, including the African failed states and Islamic theocracies where it is still practiced. Yes, there were crusades... the Vatican is now the largest operator of hospitals and health charities in the world. What has Islam done lately, besides blow shit up and rape women on an international scale?

I am confident that you can pack every morsel of your self-righteous nonsense right into your stretched, vacuous ass cavity.

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>>731265261
Yes anon they will not forgive, they will not forget.......

>>731265792
>Yes, yes! Good little goy! Spread the """truth""" about Sweden!
>Don't worry about evidence! Just listen to the news!

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>>731266104
Blue states are worth Trillions of dollars.

Red states are welfare states.

California is the 5th largest economy on earth.

Blue states pay red states' subsidies and welfare.

>>731266252
>One of the religions is the same shit since it was founded

This is not true, even a little.

In a time when Christians were illiterate peasants burning witches and waging religious wars as cover for indiscriminate marauding, Muslims ran a society that was a beacon of science, mathematics, and learning.

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In the meantime let's deflect and not talk about the abysmal failure that's trump and the GOP.

let's keep talking about Obama and Clinton guise.

>>731266438
dishonest, doesn't take into account funding for the military

>>731266438
illinois is a welfare state.

What is left of the left is nothing but a rotten corpse. It's dead but still only the left can make progress and stupid racist right-wingers remain ignorant fools. Migration of mudslimes does cause problems but they are not even remotely as big as Le Pen, Trump and others claim.

>>731264469
>Yes, because all refugees are extremists.
of course not (you're being sarcastic), which is why we should accept refugees and immigrants and immediate assimilate and acculturate them to western beliefs. But leftists unfortunately will block that ("cultural appropriation/cultural oppression/blahblablah") and you end up with poor girls "choosing" to wear the hijab because otherwise their culturally backwards family will shun them.

>>731266438
You mean the whole 3 blue states? Hahahahahaha

>>731265745
Sorry what are you talking about,the Russian government actively discriminates against homosexually, some US states actively discriminate against homosexually, the UK and Ireland have only in the last 10 years stopped discriminateing in regards to same sex marriage, educate yourself before making stupid statements https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Europe

>>731266556
>about the abysmal failure that's trump and the GOP.
Did CNN tell you Trump was a failure?

>>731266484
>WE WUZ SCHOLARS N SHIEEET
Unfortunately now every Muslim country is an anti-intellectual shithole. The reason is because their religion is outdated and literally incompatible with the concept of equality among individuals.

>>731266000
>>731266092
This is what Kek meant. We must lynch for the frog!

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The left uses political correctness to defend an ancient far right authoritarian, sexist, homophobic religion. We call this being a useful idiot.

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the jewbilee has you rightie cucks skewered on their cut cocks

>>731266484

More English literature is translated into Spanish every year, than has been translated into Arabic since the 16th century.

Islam was literally founded by an illiterate warlord and pedophile. I'm not sure how you reconcile that with beacons of science. The only reasons Islam can claim the telescope is so they could more accurately determine the direction of Mecca.

>>731266438
Combined, red states are worth way more than blue. You got califronia and newyork and thats about it.

>>731266381
I'm not a fan of Islam. I'm a fan of no religon. I just don't understand why you fucks can't get over it. It's basically the same fucking religon.

>>731266637
>You mean the whole 3 blue states?
more people live in blue states than live in red states. Republicans are in the minority.

>>731266641
discriminate is different from killing...

>>731266641
>Actively discriminate
Sorry, but "you can't get married" isn't even close to the same thing as "we will execute you in the street if we uncover your sodomy."

>>731266686
It is funny how much they hate christians but defend muslims. the irony is kind of amazing

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>>731266686
>useful idiot

an uneducated group of laborers who'll vote for anyone with an R next to their name.

the rest of the world calls those useful idiots.
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh sjw's!!!!

>>731266738
Sure it's not but that doesn't invalidate what he's saying.....

>>731266731
Without niggers you would be in the minority.

>>731266560
All the military is, is a giant welfare program.

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>>731266438
Blue states have the largest wealth inequality in the United States

>>731266847
Meaningless racist statement.

>>731266727
>Combined, red states are worth way more than blue.
In what metric? Blue states make more money, send more money to the federal govt, while red states only survive on the Federal teat while claiming that government is bad.

Look. California could be a country on it's own. Kansas? Not so much.

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>>731266727

interesting source.

but no, blue states are worth trillions of dollars. combined, red states are in a deficit.

red states haven't contributed to America since the 1800's.

>>731264252
>not realizing all those things are part of Christian faith too, of which the US is mostly made up of

>>731266838
It literally does because I already said "to the extent that Muslim countries do" in the post he is replying to.

>>731266738
Yeah no. Russians have been rounding up gays killing some. Look it up.

>>731266867
muh IQ doe

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>>731266862
Blue states are the richest states in America :^)

>>731266669
>Unfortunately now every Muslim country is an anti-intellectual shithole.
True
>The reason is because their religion is outdated and literally incompatible with the concept of equality among individuals
Not True

The reasons are complex and varied for why Islam is on such a horrible ideological backslide, but there is no such thing as a religion that can't evolve.

Both religions can and have changed a lot, depending almost entirely on what's considered canonical teachings.

You seem to think I'm defending Islam. I dislike both religions, but Americans are profoundly ignorant of history and Islam in general.

>>731264252

Yeah. Women get enough hate from the white, red-pilling neckbeards back at home. Which is like, 90% of 4chan now.

>>731266847
stupid racist bullshit. But also wrong -- African americans live predominantly in Red States in the south.

But Red State education systems are what they are, so I guess you're not entirely to blame: garbage in, garbage out.

>>731266891
i thought red/blue states was how they voted in the last election...
i'm no polyfag but this doesn't look like the last election to me.

They are still humans.
Even if you don't like it.
There is enough hatred in the world without my help.

>>731266847
Without quasi illiterate hicks Trump would have lost.

>>731265792
>>731266030
yes, this is very true. a very large portion of rape victims don't come forward, in sweden we have worked hard to increase this number and we've done well with it... but now the world thinks we're the rape capital in the world... haha

>>731266891
>red states haven't contributed to America since the 1800's.
90% of the value of red states is as a place to put military bases and give ignorant rednecks something to do other than drink beer.

Obama pardons Puerto Rican terrorist. So Progressive!

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>>731264469
>let's let them in anyways like Europe
>nothing will go wrong

>>731266962
Their government does not provide a state-run apparatus to execute gays. That's the difference.
>>731267023
>not true
Are you retarded or what? The religion necessitates the removal of women's, apostate's, gay, and countless other rights. That is quite clearly incompatible with any society that actively tries to make each and every group relatively equal before the law.

>>731267175
(Citation needed)

Inb4 infowars

FACT: 99+% of the refugees are ACTUAL refugees fleeing from war torn countries.

FACT: More than 75% of all refugees are women and children.

FACT: More than 95% of the refugees assimilate as good as any native citizen.

FACT: On an average, a refugee generates more jobs, GDP, and prosperity for the host country than any native citizen.

FACT: It is estimated that < 1% of all the Muslims are EXTREMISTS. >99% of all muslims are moderate muslims.

Don't fall for the FAKE NEWS that is spread by extreme right-winged lobbying groups.

>>731266891
I don't think you know what welfare state means.

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>>731264252
Just because they're bigoted doesn't mean we should sink to their level.

The whole point is that we're NOT going to deny people their human rights, even if they deny those rights to other people.

Being 'the good guys' means you have to do better than the 'bad guys'.

Otherwise you're just a different kind of bad guy.

Plus, the Christian countries in the 3rd world are just as sexist, homophobic, and racist as the majority Muslim countries.

>>inb4 Saudi Arabia
>>Judging all Muslims by Saudi is like judging all Christians by The Lord's Resistance Army
>>AKA Christian ISIS

Also pic related.

>>731267175
>Obama pardons Puerto Rican terrorist

Speaking of terrorism, notice how all "home grown" terrorists are Republicans? Conservatives are literally all unAmerican traitors.

>>731267225
>Puerto Rican terrorist
google is your friend

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>>731265533
Look at the shill mods manipulating the numbers again on their shill comments. we are on to you faggot.

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>>731264252

>leftists be like

>>731267305
did Obama pardon any white terrorists?

>>731266714
>Islam was literally founded by an illiterate warlord and pedophile. I'm not sure how you reconcile that with beacons of science.

Easily. They're both true statements.

>The only reasons Islam can claim the telescope is so they could more accurately determine the direction of Mecca.
So? The only reason the printing press caught on was because people wanted copies of the bible.

It's more than the telescope. They also invented a thing you might have heard about called math.

For a period of history lasting about 500 years, Muslims kept the lights on. If they hadn't, who knows where we'd be now?

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>>731267373
Repeating digits confirms the shills.

>>731267223
So does that Bible, modern Christian's pick and choose which is fine. The Bible says if someone rapes your daughter the rapist must pay for her virginity and marry her. Also, stone your children, the story of Lot (makes me cum buckets) etc etc.

Why can't you grasp Muslims can do the very same thing. Pick and choose what to live by in the Koran.

But why do the right reject Islam, when they literally share the exact same ideologies as Islamists?
>hate gays
>hate women
>don't believe in science

>>731267303

Letting the bag guys gey away with being bag guys because you have no moral or ethical compass does not make you one of the good guys, it makes you a spineless pussy, dipshit.

Look at me everyone! I'm virtue signalling! Whites r bad and I love Muslims! Hate rednecks, love niggers! I adopted ten nigger babies and have a rainbow family!

>>731267403

woah, they invented shit hundreds of years ago. who gives a fuck?

>>731267478
That's literally what I'm trying to tell you, retard. Islam must reform if it wishes to exist and prosper in the modern world just like Christianity did. The problem is that most Muslims from Muslim countries don't want to reform. They like it the way it is, but want Western wealth and amenities anyway.

>>731267242
Yo, I worked real hard on this. Can I get some (You)'s please?

>>731267504
But one hates Jews slightly more.

If you kill your enemies you lose.

>>731267223
>Are you retarded or what? The religion necessitates the removal of women's, apostate's, gay, and countless other rights. That is quite clearly incompatible with any society that actively tries to make each and every group relatively equal before the law.

This is kind of like saying Christianity demands you keep slaves and stone to death women (but just women) who cheat.

It's *in* the bible, so it's not like that's not a part of the religion.

Like I said in an earlier post, the reasons why the Islam is on such a huge backslide has little to do with religious text and more to do with other factors that are preventing them from doing what Christians do... which is ignore the parts of their religion that are incompatible with modern society.

>>731266952
Ah okay. I guess I disagree with your original point then. Muslim countries vary wildly in how they treat women, as do christian countries.

Sure Iran and Saudi Arabia treat their women like shit but women in Indonesia and Malaysia are treated arguably better than they are here in the US. Additionally there are primarily christian countries in africa that still actively participate in female genital mutilation.

You literally cannot generalize a religion of 1.5B people. It's a stupid way to go about it. If you want to find out if someone has regressive views that don't belong in the 21st century, you're going to have to find a different indicator other than the majority religion in the country they're from.

>>731267504
What I find utterly ironic is that modern international terrorism is a product of the far right wing. Which we have in power in the US. They're just kept fairly mild due to checks and balances. Which Trump wants to remove because he doesn't like being questioned.

>>731267242
:DDDD

>>731267478
Forgot to mention: the Koran says very explicitly that it is not meant to be interpreted in a variety of ways like the Bible is. It is not welcoming or reformation or modification. Muslims that DON'T think apostates should be killed are literally heretics according to that book.

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>>731267676
>the reasons why the Islam is on such a huge backslide has little to do with religious text and more to do with other factors that are preventing them from doing what Christians do... which is ignore the parts of their religion that are incompatible with modern society
The solution is to give them all money and let them move to America!

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>>731267242
kek

>>731267674
Not necessarily. Sometimes you need more enemies in order to win. Example by attacking France the extremist Muslims are hoping to get Me Pen in power, causing more Muslims to join them in their fight against Europe.

>>731267676
>Demands you keep slaves
Not gonna respond to more "but the old testament!!!!" stupidity. The new testament exists and not a single Christian nation follows the comparable-to-Islam rules from the old testament.

>>731267798
but, but, THE KIDS!!!

>>731264252

goatfucking, backwards-ass, inbred, smelly shitstains of human beings

the world would be a better place if we just nuked africa and the middle east and were done with it

>>731267761
>The solution is to give them all money and let them move to America!
I didn't say that... all I've been arguing is that Americans are fucking ignorant of history in general, and they don't even have a basic historical understanding of their own major religion.

>>731267706
Sorry, let me be more specific: every single Muslim country from the middle east and Africa, regardless of wealth, is an oppressive shithole whose beliefs are incompatible with the western world.

>>731267798
>Don't fall for the FAKE NEWS that is spread by extreme right-winged lobbying groups.

>>731267802
Yeah, but eventually the French will round up the Muslims and send them back from whence they came.

>>731267824
Actually the new testament demands that slaves obey their master's. It's not progressive on this subject.

>>731267733
Who cares faggot, the book is old as fuck. I garuntee the Bible says something similar, maybe another anon will post it.

>>731267824
But the new testament EXPLICITLY STATES that they have to follow the old...

They just ignore it to the degree that some translations are even conveniently altered slightly so it doesn't say that.

>>731267961
There might be a tad bit of generalisation over here.

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>>731267871
>THE KIDS!!!

>>731267981
Does it demand the taking of slaves like you were suggesting? Or stone women to death? No, it doesn't.

>>731267976
Which is what people wanting a caliphate want. Then they take over countries with nukes and bomb the infidels. They want total war

>>731268043
Name one that doesn't fit the bill.

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>>731264469
Why do refugees happen?
>Because their religion is the cause of everything that makes them escape to the West.
Why do refugees go to the West?
>Because Western culture is progressive compared to their backwards Islamic culture.
Why can't the cause of their escape be fixed at the source?
>Because those who are supposed to fix that shit are too busy escaping to the West.
Why can't they admit that it is their culture and religion which are the problems, so we can move from identifying the problem to fixing it, like changing lots of texts in the Quran and re-configuring the system of Imams?
>Because some idiots propagate the idea that Islam is a religion of peace, thereby wiping their hands clean from having to fix it and taking responsibility for it.
>Because they can't identify the problem and thus move to fix it, if they deny there exists a problem in the first place when they imply that terrorists are not "true Muslims", thereby separating themselves from the trash that their "infallible" "pure" religion produces

Why are you retarded?
>because you ignore all the surveys ow migrant Muslims which show overwhelming majority supporting Sharia and punishing gays

All Muslims are extremists, because not converting to Western culture means you are stuck in the same culture you escaped from and only spreading the cancer further.

Do you understand now you stupid fuck?

>>731267906

im not even a christian, but i do know jesus didn't go around warmongering, and raping little girls

the bible is not nearly as bad as the quran, if you think so you're either delusional or a shill

>>731267961
And what is France becoming? Also what is Russia?

>>731268120
Me too, let the Crusades resume!

>>731268120
I want Constantinople back.

>>731268316
Istanbul.

>>731268209
Russia is an oppressive shithole if you're gay, but not to the same extent that Muslim countries are. If France continues to "culturally enrich" itself it's going to become a slightly wealthier Jordan.

>>731268209
>And what is France becoming
A Muslim shithole

>>731268194
>im not even a christian, but i do know jesus didn't go around warmongering

He sort of did, in the bible. Not warmongering exactly...

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html

>>731268368
Only a Muslim would call it that.

>>731267262
>I don't think you know what welfare state means.
welfare states are the ones that take money from those of us who actually create value in America.

The best thing in the world for those of us who actually MAKE things in this country (Blue Staters) would be for the Red States to secede. They can't support themselves, are uneducated, and have no real industry other than just making useless crap for everyone else. Within a decade it would be like the difference between North and South Korea.

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>>731268209
>And what is France becoming?

>>731268194
See: the story of Lot
Notable episodes in his life include his travels with his uncle Abram (Abraham), his flight from the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, during which Lot's wife became a pillar of salt,
>and the seduction by his daughters so that they could bear children.

I came.

>>731268376
I'm more worried about Le Pen turning into a Christian country where being gay is illegal, kosher meat is illegal and kipot are illegal. She's already suggesting that Jews will be collateral in the war on Islam.

>>731265282
It's bad when Muslims do it but it's ok when Christians do

>>731268433
What the fuck did you just call me you fucking cuck? I've been on this website since 2004, you fucking BITCH. (That's more than 12 years old you fucking retard, older than the day you were shat out by your bitch ass mom's pussy.)
All of 4chan's mods are literally a single text away from me. I could ban the living SHIT out of you right now and fucking BRICK your entire system if I wanted to.
Listen up, kid. If you still want access to your gay ass trap threads and your bitch ass furry porn, you will NOT post such retarded shit from now on.

LURK MOAR, FAGGOT.

Trump's gonna bring Constantinople back!
Them Muzzies don't know how to act!
If that's your Jihad better watch you back!
Cause Trump will burn it up for you and that's a fact!

>>731268550
You gotta post the story

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.

>>731268554
Le Pen won't win so it's okay. Not that I would mind if Jews were collateral.

>ITT let's bash one religion while not knowing a Damn thing about your own.
Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God. Allah is God in Arabic

>>731268406
>le reddit meme

This is my problem with shit atheists. I get it, you don't believe in god, and what not, and you think you have reasons to do so, that's okay, and you think you can preach about those feelings.

With info that you didn't curate, about a book you haven't even read.

The Quran instigates its followers to kill non-believers. The Bible says that you can't judge who shall die, but it will come to them. Do you see the difference?

also fedora.

>>731268805
In the book of Luke, Chapter 19 verse 27 Jesus says, “but those enemies of mine who do not want me to reign over them, bring them here, and kill them in front of me.”

>>731266484
The Ottomans did that you retard, one of the benefits of being a large empire at the time, just because a few years prior the ravings of a child raping war monger got popular doesn't mean the religion had anything to do with scientific advancement. Try not to pull a muscle reaching.

>>731268716
1 And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

12 And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:

13 And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.

14 And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:

15 And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.

16 And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:

17 And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.

18 And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:

19 And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.

>>731268950
He was referencing Samuel, in the context of Samuel, you imbecile.

>>731264658
/thread

>>731268671
Yeah!

>>731269114
Are you saying that it's all about that debt?

>>731266850

Filled with people who worm harder in a single day than you do in a month.

> keyboard warrior

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>>731268774
Among the 1st 3 countries that legalized same-sex marriage, two were countries where the majority at the time identified as Christian,
and one of those two was Spain where Christianity is a big deal from a cultural and historic standpoint in addition to belief because of the Al-Andalus days.

No gays were stoned.
No stores and structures were burned.
No violence happened.
Christians acted rationally, calm, civil, and self-regulated themselves.

You want to argue what we know about religions?
We know that all of the above would never happen in any Islamic country, we know why, and we know that any comparisons of any religion to Islam is pure bullshit and False Equivalence in the present.

You can take your Allah, your Muhammad, your Talmud, and shove all of it up your ass.

>>731269189
Le Pen is mightier than the sword

>>731269093
I'm pretty sure he was comparing the bible to the Quran saying that one doesn't have passages to kill non believers. Which is incorrect. Both say kill the non believers

>>731264469
#NOTALL xddddd!!!!!11!!1!1!!

Who claimed all of them were, dumbshit?

>>731269367

This guy did
>>731264638

>>731264503
>white genocide

you know how fucking whiney that sounds? Stop blaming other people for your shitty life.

>>731269326
>non believers
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
YOU WILL BOW BEFORE ME
THE STREETS WILL FLOW WITH THE BLOOD OF THE NON BELIEVERS!

>>731269446
He is obviously messing with you but I'm not surprised it flew right over your head considering how stupid your original post was

>>731269483
you will assimilate

>>731264503
Whites have the most warfare out of every race. Whites kill each other or themselves more than diversity causes mixed races

>>731269547
I only wrote that last one.

>>731269619
Not this retarded shit again.

>>731267403
bullshits, muslims derived all their knowledge from plunder and theft, they didnt invent shit as all the math was from the indo aryians in india that they murdered.

Muslims killed of the race of ppl whom created math and numerical s.

>>731269483
Kek. Tell that to a Jew next time the holocaust or antisemitism is mentioned.

>>731269679
Oh, well then he's obviously messing with whoever wrote that post.

>>731269680
Great rebuttal. Ww1 and 2 were almost all whites. Just about every large scale war was with at least one white nation. It's pretty easy to see that

>>731267592
They didnt invent shit https://youtu.be/kN2rvquYBbQ

>>731269768
those aren't the white people they mean when they are bitching about white genocide

>>731269768
So now Jews are white?

>>731269823
Your knowledge of history is.... lacking

>>731265433
faggot

>>731269927
Lacking what? Tell me how I'm wrong

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>>731267592
>Islam
>inventing shit

KEK

Arabs and Semites in general hoarded Greek and Roman scriptures which were left everywhere following the collapse of the Empires.
They never invented shit. The only positive thing they did was archiving it, and also hoarding shit that came from India and China.

>>731270021
First of all you are looking at things from a Western perspective and you aren't even going back 100 years.

>>731265745
So it wasn't recently that America had an anti gay eugenics program? Also Germany. Also is Russia not a Christian country?

Define recent history. I'm 36 and in my lifetime Americans have gone to jail for having consensual sex with adults because it was gay.

>>731269823
Come on, not even you believe that. If you're feeling lazy just Google some shit about wars with the highest death tolls. Top 10, for example. Whites don't even make up half of that list.

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>>731267626
>>731267242


Very few Turks in Germany have a regular job; about 20%. The other 80% live on the so-called Hartz IV (state social benefits). 70% of their children have no GCSE; they left school before they finished their basic education.

According to the German state benefit system, every adult citizen who possesses the German nationality, unemployed and cannot find an appropriate job, is entitled to get monthly 482 € ($627). Additionally, parents get for each child under 18 years old, 200 € ($261), plus all their monthly expenditures in terms of rent, heating, power, health insurance, and public transport.


refugees cost so much, they have to work for 45 years and pay taxes over 65k

>>731269902
Are we not? I mean sure, not all of us are, but Sephardi aside we are pretty white.

>>731270233
Last 30 years at a federal level.

>>731270162
Well the a white race has only been around so long and I would say it's worse past the hundred year mark with the doctorine of discovery. That caused tons of wars

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>>731268191
>Because their religion is the cause of everything that makes them escape to the West.
It is jihad, they are on jihad this is why they have internal conflict so they can play the vinctim roll. in the history of islam this is how they conquer. sure they raid too, but the way they conquer is by demographic invasion slowly killing the ppl over time so they actually hold a claim on the land.

>>731270269
Dungan Revolt. ...
Conquests of Timur. ...
World War I. ...
Taiping Rebellion. ...
Qing Dynasty conquest of the Ming Dynasty. ...
Mongol Conquests. ...
An Lushan Rebellion. ...
World War II. World War II was the deadliest war to ever occur.
Right from google

>>731270233
>No Christian country in recent history has repressed gays and non-christians to the extent that every Muslim country does.
>to the extent that every Muslim country does.
Anon. The sentence and meaning was clear for anyone who can read.
And you can refer yourself to >>731269309
as proof of the claim.
There are plenty of Christian countries that don't give a fuck about sexuality and know to regulate themselves. Even in South America as well and you know which one i'm talking about.

Islam has none whatsoever.

>>731270343
That's VERY recent.

>>731264469
Listen to this man, he knows of which he speaks.
Unless he's being sarcastic which just makes him a fucking pussy

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>>731264252

strawman argument faggot

>>731264252
>Why do the left refuse to accept that the middle East is more racist than those trying to save or country by blocking them out?

Because the republicans are on the other side, and if they are for it, then the left is against it. That's how things work.

>>731270636
Even if we say last 100 years at a federal level jailing gays is not comparable to stoning them, beheading apostates in the street, "Mercy-killing" daughters and rape victims, etc.

>>731270556
I wouldn't say "plenty". Also America used to cut their ball off and this eugenics program went on into the 80's. Which is shameful and fairly recent.

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>>731264252
Selective racism is ok for right and left, faggot OP.
It depends where the $$ is coming from, or could be coming from and of course, whose pocket its going into.

OP's pic seems ill informed as Hillary (along with Downy Drumpf) are supporters of Israel uber alles.

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>>731270492
>World War II.
>40,000,000–85,000,000 death toll
>Mongol Conquests
>40,000,000–70,000,000 death toll

>literally all white nations had to be involved in an era with a vastly bigger global population using vastly superior weapons in order to compete with a single Mongol war craze

Says it all.

>>731270788
Would you rather be castrated with modern medicine or stoned to death? Which is worse? Which one is no longer done? Which one still happens and is endorsed by the members of the religion responsible?

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>>731270293
Ja, very profitable to be a refugee in Germany.

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>>731270901

>>731270901
You cherry picker. Mongols are on their onces, whites are on their three times

>>731264252

you're looking at it with a broad brush. Syria has been ruled as more secular than religious. We're not talking about villagers from Afghanistan who are clansmen with the taliban for fucks sake.

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>>731270917
Question, what religion is Uganda?

>>731264469
not all are extrmist but a good par are, and even tho theyre not extremist great majority still share some extremist ideas...

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>>731270788
>I wouldn't say "plenty".
Because you are not interested in having a rational argument because being rational would imply that you have to admit that something you hate has actually improved itself and procured change to its core system which you are habitually predisposed to insult and deny.

And because you are so used to insulting Christians and denying any positive change happening in their collectives,
you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions such as Islam which didn't experience the reform and reconstruction that Christianity has, and which currently require attention.

>>731271134
>B-BUT AFRICA
Africa is fucked because it's poor and has basically no government. It says more than enough when you have cherrypick a shithole in Africa, where superstition is rampant to the point that albino people are eaten, and claim it's the epitome of Christianity. Yet you still can't name a single middle eastern Muslim nation that isn't an oppressive shithole like I asked.

is it bad that i don't really care if women have rights or not?
i also don't really like gay people. all the gay people i've known have been highly neurotic and pedantic about stupid things like candles or some dumb shit, mentally ill basically.
i also have responded unfavorably to rape victims before. i kinda give them stern, man up responses, but women can't man up, they just hold an emotional grudge forever.

am i with them too?

>>731271424
>Is it bad
You probably hate women. Other misogynists will say it's fine, beta cucks will tell you you're an abomination, and normal people will tell you it's wrong. There is no objective answer.

>>731270080
damn, im an atheist and this gif got me offended XD

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>>731271415
SA was a arid desert empty of people, Whites came started farming, slavery was illegal because of the british.

Whites offered jobs to people from neighboring countries.
More came and started to rapidly out number the black workers and whites.

Workers and whites get attack raped mugged constantly.
Apartheid commences they keep the non working immigrant blacks away from the whites and black paid labor.
67 deaths a year

Nelson Mandela the self proclaimed terrorist took power with terror attacks, kills 77,000 people
SA rape capital of the world
37 deaths a day
https://americanfreepress.net/70000-whites-murdered-in-modern-south-africa-obamas-african-legacy/
>nelson Mandela was a self proclaimed terrorist

>>731270293
Full study where these graphs are taken from for people interested
http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

I don't want to engage in discussion with people, so I won't state my opinion, if someone wants to make a point to me, just give me sources, if you don't have any or they can't speak for themselves, your opinion is invalid anyways

>>731271689
>BUT AFRICA!!!!!!!

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>>731271415
Actually, Africa is fucked because of blacks.

>>731271692
>I don't want to engage in discussion with people, so I won't state my opinion, if someone wants to make a point to me, just give me sources, if you don't have any or they can't speak for themselves, your opinion is invalid anyways
Kek, are you new?, you seem fairly based for a newanon

>>731270080
>Arabs and Semites in general hoarded Greek and Roman scriptures
wrong, idiot. Romans didn't even have the number zero. Where do you think Algebra came from??

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>>731271798
Shit went wrong when they started to mine precious metals in SA.

>>731271859
the indo aryian hindu SA was a arid desert empty of people, Whites came started farming, slavery was illegal because of the british.

Whites offered jobs to people from neighboring countries.
More came and started to rapidly out number the black workers and whites.

Workers and whites get attack raped mugged constantly.
Apartheid commences they keep the non working immigrant blacks away from the whites and black paid labor.
67 deaths a year

Nelson Mandela the self proclaimed terrorist took power with terror attacks, kills 77,000 people
SA rape capital of the world
37 deaths a day
https://americanfreepress.net/70000-whites-murdered-in-modern-south-africa-obamas-african-legacy/

>>731266000
Fuck them, maybe if they had jobs we wouldn't wanna hang em!

>>731271801
>>731271883
This is a thread about Muslims. Please stop this.

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>>731271859
>Sifr evolved to mean zero when it was used to translate śūnya (Sanskrit: शून्य) from India.

>>731267798
so child is a gender now

>>731266438
This is so incorrect :! Most liberal states and cities are very poor, and most liberal areas are inner cities. I'm so you're this uneducated :(. I drive all over the country, I've seen wealthy areas and poor areas and let me tell you. The wealthy areas are predominantly white landowners who know how to save money and make smart investments

Are those 4 dudes on the left Mike Pence's assistants?

>>731272138
did you just assumed their gender?

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>>731271321
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions

U.S. hypocrisy at it yet again

>>731272465
Israel isn't Christian so your shitpost doesn't make sense. Also i'm not American.

>>731264252
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>>731271883

Not that i doubt the validity of the claimed numbers, but I would still love to see the credible citation on this.

>>731272465
>Religion versus country
No.

>>731271883
Cherry picked image.

>>731267303
>The only way to stop terrorists is to give in to their demands

Yea, ok, sure thing buddy.

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>>731272568
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions

>>731272867
And Judaism one of them along with Islam.
Israel isn't Christian.
You are still without a point.
Is reading too hard for you?

>>731270886
Trump is a yuge supporter of Israel. Also considering the region it's not that bad. They have a better human rights record than their neighbors. Palestinian civil war and terrorism is a reality. You think that if Israel left the region would be all sunshine and flowers? They kill and torture each other all the time. At least Israel doesn't torture or execute people.

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>>731273277
>They have a better human rights record than their neighbors.
What you meant to say is
>They have better financial and technological support from USA than their neighbors

If Israel didn't have USA as a supplier of both resources and knowledge, it would be no different from its neighbors. Same sub-human trash.
With enough money you can make any shitty group look good, like Turks for instance before USA stopped being BFF with them.

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>>731272974
>Is reading too hard for you?
>Israel garners support/sympathy from persecution of JEWS during holocaust
>Israel claims JEWISH STATE
>Israel JUSTIFIES genocidal destruction of Palestinians because holocaust (holocaust=JEWISH persecution, in case you are having trouble keeping up)

>>731271321
>you ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>ignore the evils currently perpetrated by other religions
>ignore
>evils currently perpetrated by other religions

>>731273805
I'm still not seeing your point since this is a discussion between Christianity and Islam.
I don't denounce Israel is shit, but it deviates from the original topic.
Make a new thread about your shit.

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>>731274003
>calling someone on ignoring "evils" perpetrated by other religions
>Attempts to vilify Islam while placing Christianity on pedestal
>doesn't see connection
>hypocrites gonna hypocrite
>fails to see the connection

>>731275155
Both Muslims and Jews are shit news,
so you are still not making a point.
I could also post articles of how Israeli
soldiers bullied and treated Christians
atrociously the same as Muslims do. I know better than you all the shit that Israel has perpetrated.
But their main problem is nationalism,
which again has nothing to do with the topic
at hand. You still retarded?

>>731264252

faith in politics is a mental illness. believing that one side is different from the other... you deserve to be killed.

ps, you learn everything about the world from your tv. you're a retard who has never been out of the countryside

>>731264252
Two wrongs don't make a right

>>731271041
>triggered mongol detected
Asians are on there at least 3 times, more if you count their involvement in the WWs.

>>731275155
go fuck yourself

>>731265152
Sandy Hook, Columbine, Red Lake...

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>>731275516
>"two party system"
>divide and conquer
>who's that behind the curtain?
>Single party of greed toast and wring "left" & "right" hands in victory
>None the wiser

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>>731275930
>go fuck yourself
>An obviously excellent, well informed and educated retort.

>>731265212
>if you don't go out in the streets to kill thieves you're a passive thief

>>731264618
>every time there has been a crisis, America has been on the wrong side of history
Like the 2003 tsunami, when we sent tens of millions of dollars of aid and thousands of workers.
Or when we passed the Lend-Lease acts, giving the UK the legs to pair with Churchill's spine so they could hold on, alone, against Nazism until the rest of us could catch up.
Or that time we rebuilt Haiti, or that other time we rebuilt Haiti, or that other time we rebuilt Haiti.
Or when we dug the Panama Canal, and then gave it to Panama.
Or helped eradicate smallpox.
Or that time when U.S. civilians are - by percentage, by absolute dollar amount, by overall measure and by per capita - the most generous and charitable people on Earth, founding the Red Cross, giving billions to fight AIDS and malaria in Africa, etc. etc. etc...

Wrong side of history. Totally.

>>731265342
And 270 million of christians do so, what's your point?

>>731275896
The numbers are STILL higher for the whites. Even if you count Japan in ww2

>>731266891
Great. Get rid of us. Cut us off. Throw us out of your "union." You don't need us anyway. We'll only slow you down. You go your way, and make the rules for your area that you think are best. We'll do the same.

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>>731267305
Tell me more!

https://youtu.be/xn6f8Gk5bHc

>>731267478
That is the most ignorant statement I've read so far. If your history book talks about the Trail of Tears, does that mean it condones killing Native Americans? Does being against such killing mean you're "picking and choosing"?

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>>731267446
Those aren't dubs, newfag. lurk moar.

>>731277711
THOSE are dubs, checked

>>731277503
What a retarded picture.
How many registered dentists or movie-ticket sellers are also mass shooters? Comparing a few random murdering assholes to a super specific organization. Your logic is terrible.

>>731267223
They do provide the tools for people to do so in a way that isn't exposed in a clear light to the international community

>>731277800
His picture does make a point whether you like it or not.
You can't put anyone in the NRA list.

>>731264469
Yes, because all immigrants are refugees

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>>731264469
Very naive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQW8DIrskE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq84ZTm3fAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UifaM2iBrFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K4okVa7dU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9GQF5MJSMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyOz4NSRh9g

>>731265008
>>731265533
about 25% of muslims in britain support terorists

>>731278384
You also can't put convicted child rapists, illegal gun sellers or Burger King employees there either. It has no fucking point and you're a dunce if you honestly think so.

>>731271801
What about Botswana?

>>731264252
Remember how the lefties used to say look at sweden it's a muslim country and it has western values... those were the good old days

>>731272782
It is not, south africa was fine until africans flooded their borders by the millions.
>nigger found

>>731271801
>both images of poverty

Please stop posting these retarded pictures. They're hilariously stupid.

>>731278818
It does make a mathematical point when the majority of shooters have something in common.
Quantitative association is the basis of logic and mathematical skills.

Math doesn't give a fuck about your feelings, your ideology, your beliefs, your butthurt.

The only question here is whether you will act on that information and find solutions,
or whether you will ignore it and insult it like a child while the problem is ignored.
Ignoring a smoking engine won't fix it or avert the inevitable.

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>>731272693
The jews are involved in this because of the earth minerals and prior to that the diamonds. you wont find any info on this.

>south africa is ran by niggers and there are 2 million of the original inhabitants under constant thread of complete destruction supported by the western world..

>>731264252
i dont hear about any gay killings. Do your job Muslims.

>>731266000
But they didn't kill the niggers because they had the wrong religion did they?

>>731279094
See, it's funny that you mention math when your entire argument is completely countered by it.
If there are 50 mass shootings, in a country of 350 million, chances are that those 50 shooters aren't going to be part a tiny special club of just a few thousand, no matter how much relevance you're reaching to connect the two things.
You're foolish. Think harder.

https://youtu.be/xn6f8Gk5bHc

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>>731266654
>Did CNN tell you Trump was a failure?
We don't need jew owned and operated propaganda machine, CNN, for that.
Trump does an excellent job of it every fucking day since he's been in office.

>>731279398
>chances are
Well too bad for you that we are not arguing chances but hard validated facts in this case.
That picture didn't make assumptions, it laid out what is known.
You don't like what you see because it destroys your sense of infallibility and obligates you to think a little.
That's fine. But math is math. Association is the basis of logic and free will.
Your butthurt won't change the facts.