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I spend every day trying to better myself physically and mentally. I actively work on improving my social skills. I try to be friendly and funny, to never be petty. I take chances with people and take rejection in stride.

I meditate. I work out vigorously. I follow a strict diet. I have interesting non-autistic hobbies.

I watch self-improvement videos, read tons of self-improvement books and online forums. I have learned so much on so many subjects. I spend just as much time going out every day and putting what I learn into practice. I have learned to be bold and to take action, to accept failure and learn from it, to always keep striving to improve.

But despite it all I have no friends and no one ever seems to enjoy my company.

It drives me crazy. Meanwhile I know people I know who do nothing with their lives, who just drink, smoke pot all day, spend all their time watching sports and playing video games, and they have always girlfriends and tons of friends.

I know all this means that there's a problem myself that I'm not perceiving correctly. But for the life of me I have no fucking idea what it is. I've been working on this for many years and seem to have made no progress whatsoever. No matter what I do, how hard I work at it, I cannot turn things around. I know that means the problem is me and not everyone else, but sometimes it feels like I'm living in a Bizzaro world and that this is some sort of elaborate reality God has created just to mercilessly fuck with me.
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people can't relate to you, so they don't enjoy your company as much
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Perhaps you have a condescending attidude due to your self interest. Always seek to understand before being understood. Be less narcsistic. Get on the level of the average person. Smoke a little bit of weed, drink some beer. Do something stupid once in a while
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After all that self improvement, you forgot one thing.

Stop fapping to traps.
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>>731146722
actually good advice
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There's something people don't like about you, and you can't learn in forums about that, just try to chat with some randomn person, and try to remember where the conversation/facial expressions changed drastically, as some anon said above it might be you being too narcisistic
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>>731146393
they don't like you because your penis looking too masculine.
try to make your penis look more feminine and people will be much more friendly.
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>>731146722
Definetely don't do this.
>>731146393
A higher mental state automatically leads to loneliness
The most lonely times in my life were when I was the most intelligent
It means you are doing, what you are destined to do
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>>731146393
you might wanna take a look at what people see in you. few enjoy being around someone who is visibly better than they are. if you act all perfect, others might feel inferior and therefore reject you. people like people they can brag to, people who they can act superior around, not those who act like winners all of a sudden
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>>731146393

I'm in the same situation as OP...

please someone what is the fucking solution to this?
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there is no solution
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>>731146393
Be petty it works
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>>731146393
yeah I give up already. I can make friends and show a lot of interest in them but it never works. So I stick to my job and hobbies
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>>731146393
You're ugly most likely. I'm ugly, yet I'm not autistic like my good looking cousin is. He is the fucking worst. Changed multiple unis, doesn't hang out with anyone, playing vydia all day, sits on his ass. Guess which one of us has a girl? You guessed it right, the good looking one. Invest into looking better, all I can say.
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>>731147803
Works out vigorously
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>>731147546
People either:
a. Can't trust you
b. Can't relate to you
Humans naturally make mistakes and do silly stuff sometime. Imperfections along with the good things make people attractive and real.
If you do things constantly by the book then you will be perceived as boring and annoying.
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>>731146393
Need to work on humility, mate.

Also find God.
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>>731146393
They're originals, not a wannabe buda neckbeard.
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>>731147281
inteligence and destiny dont really work together all that well
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>>731147281
what level are your wizzard skills?
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>>731147281
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Friends and people are generally overrated as fuck, I've gone through a shit ton of social circles. Now I just don't give a fuck.

Keep focusing on you.
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people are only interrested in themeselves,fun and sex. Ifyou cannot offer them that u remain a trap
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>>731146722
>>731146505
These. If you've convinced yourself that you're awesome because of all the changes you have made in yourself it might be hard for people to relate to you/relate to others.

Try asking questions and listening, share something of yourself and be vulnerable. People don't want friends who are perfect beings, they want people who they feel comfortable around.

Ultimately though, if you're >18 and not in college it is quite hard to make friends. As adults, we harden our hears to others and just get caught up in our own shit. Try not to mind it too much and just keep trying
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>>731147803
Not OP, but this isn't likely to be it. I knew a guy who was quite frankly, pretty ugly, but somehow had more friends than I'm ever likely to have in my life. He died young, and the funeral was packed - hundreds and hundreds of people turned up. Dude wasn't good looking, wasn't rich, wasn't wildly successful in business, he just got along with everyone super well. I wish I knew how he did it.
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>>731148105
evrybody ned freinds anon
or else u cry
:')
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>>731146393
You and I are so similar in description. I'm seeking therapy because of it - the only suggestion I have been given is to smile more. I don't understand how there can be so many young men on this planet that are alone and socially isolated.
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>>731148219

Oh don't get me wrong I have an active social life. Just few people I'd consider as friends. Like really few.
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In same situation OP, the solution is to realize that other individuals will always be blind to the light of self improvement, self-consciousness and self awareness. The problem isn't you OP I'll be the first person to say it. What you need to do is keep going, whether or not you have friends. Friends are fake, friends hold you back. Realize that loneliness is an emotion and emotions can be controlled. This life is an absurd reality so whatever you're improving yourself for doesn't matter, be it for God or fucking Szechuan sauce. They all weigh the same
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its normal man. Youre maturing, all the skills you have built up are just ways to hide your insecurities. Now youre just accepting your insecurities/bad sides. Youre becomming a man
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It's because you are trying to be normal to hard and it makes others cringe. Just relax stop thinking so much and you will seem more normal. I have a friend like you who makes everyone so uncomfortable I can't bring him around anymore. Last time he was around he kept trying make everyone watch these stupid ass SELF help videos about leadership or some shit. While everyone else is just chilling on autopilot you are over analyzing and being to critical of every move you make and this causes cringeworthy autistic behavior. Source : I am a phycologist
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>wants to be liked and social
>goes on /b/
Pick one cunt
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>>731146393

Which do you want more friend or a girlfriend? They are two different skill sets. You need to learn how to flirt and how to be fun.
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>>731148495
How do you learn this skill set?
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>>731148227
Because we're all isolated

Because we can't see beyond ourselves

Because every friend you think is more happy than you is just as isolated and lonely

Because we don't know how to reach out to each other without sounding "gay"

Because to a lot of us, the most important thing is ourselves

Because with Facebook messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, Pintrest, 4chan, reddit and a host of other tools for online interaction are a fake representation for the real thing and easier than actually being yourself in public

We're all isolated anon. We're all alone. Reach out to someone you know today
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You may be struggling is that fact that people who are hyper social appear to have a lot of close friends.

They don't. They are just friendly with a lot of people. Deep down they are likely as lonely as you.

Focus on building deep friendships with a small handful of people whose company you truly enjoy.

Be friendly towards everyone, but you don't need many friends to be happy. Your close friends will have true friends that you aren't friends with, so by being great friends with just 3 people you can actually have a fairly large social circle to operate in.
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>I watch self-improvement videos

haha faggot, you have no character, anyone with honor wouldn't watch that shit.

Also are you modest? Because modesty is the key to find normal people.

Maybe you are also very greedy and selfish and always complain. People don't like that.

Meditation is fucking weird as well.

You are just very autistic and don't understand signals.
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>>731148582

Have just always been good at it. Strangers tell me their life story and I find sexy with women or men easy,

Flirting is 2/3s being an asshole and 1/3 being nice. So, "I like your shoes, but you smell and suck." is actually a good mathematical flirt.

Becoming friends with people is about talking about subjects the person likes. If you see a game t-shirt say "Do you like games?" If you see a woman who just got her eyebrows done say "Did you just get them waxed?" People want to tell you about what they are doing, what they are into and whats on their mind.
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>>731146393
well you do sound like a bit of a douche.
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>>731148814

find sex*
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>>731148814
glad the autism doesn't have you feeling down anon.
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>>731148663
>>731148227
I really want to hang with you guys
As much as I am improving myself I do goof around once in a while and I smoke once a month or so a cigar and drink once in a while (drinking is also good in low stacks as it makes your immunity system stronger)
I want a friend or a few to hang with tonight
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>>731148913

I do not have autism but nice attempted insult at people with social disorders!
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Maybe your character is going away from friends and socializing, maybe you lean towards being alone. You can't have both.
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>>731148449
This.
>>731148831
This. (The short version).

OP sounds a lot like pic related.
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>>731148982
> I'm super good at the sexing anon trust me
> if they have a shirt on ask them if they like shirts
>works every time
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>>731148022
I am level 99 I have one strong passive trying to form it to active. You?
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>>731148917
lmao you truly are autistic
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>>731149157

> I'm super good at the sexing anon trust me

It is what I do for a living anon so I better be good at it. If you do not want advice than do not seek it!

> if they have a shirt on ask them if they like shirts

The key is about cold reading people not 'if they have a shirt.' You want to take in the details people are naturally giving you.
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>>731149295
kek'd he really is
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>>731149198
Not a wizard yet but I can feel that fate creeping up on me. I have friends and I do talk to girls sometimes. Conversation with girls is especially hard because i have little to relate with them
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>>731149312
you're pretty autistic too lol
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>>731149295
Thanks anon, you give the same vibe
And at least I have a gf
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>>731149312
oh I get it

>if they have blue shirt on ask them if they like blue
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>>731146393
Watching a lot of guides on social relationship and expecting to be good at that is just like thinking you're a stallion in bed because you watch a lot of porn.

When you are with other people do you always do what you want to do or what those videos tell you to do?
People can feel if you're genuine or not when you're with others. If you're afraid you don't know how to be interesting, tell them that. Be honest and people will find in you reasons to like you.
Ask them "all this time i've tried really hard, i looked like an idiot didn't i?".

Any hobby is fine, be it a sport or collecting anime stamps, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you're enjoying it. Ask yourself if you really like what you're doing in your free time. If the andare is no, change it with something you like more.
Learn to disobey the rules you've set yourself. You can eat more at times, especially when you're with others, drink alcohol, smoke weed if you want. When your brain tells you "you shouldn't do this, stop it, i'm scared" give it a try and do it anyway.
Live being yourself, not some stupid shit that you read on a book written to make money out of people in your situation. And be fucking honest with those around you, even if you've just met them
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>>731149455
my sides
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>>731149420

Autism is a social disorder. I am extroverted and enjoy small talk. I understand that my post came off like bragging; ignore that if you have any genuine questions about humans or making relationships with them.
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>>731149455

That would be some literal autism but you did make me laugh anon!
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>>731149587
>>731149628
both of you motherfuckers just scream autistic why
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>>731149744

Maybe you guys do not have friends because you assume everyone is autistic.
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>>731146393
This thread is filled with autistic joks and condescending faggots who are irl virgins
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>>731149549
Andare=answer, autocorrect from foreign language
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>>731149824
maybe you do not have friends because you are actually autistic
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>>731149940

This is like a thread about trolling trolls. I have friends, am a social butterfly and love the human species as a whole.
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>>731150049
fuck off faggot
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>>731149098
You're probably right
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>>731150148

Well, at least you are getting closer to accurately describing me.
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I spend my days eating Cheetos and jerking off until my dick is a permanent shade of Trump Orange.

People seem to like me well enough.

Maybe just do what I do instead, OP.
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>>731146393
Same boat, anon. It's my 19th birthday today, kissless virgin, have no friends, and I don't think there are any plans / surprise plans for me today. :( Time to go to work, I guess.

>TFW
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>>731146393
OP i have a similar problem. i think ive worked out what the problem is.

I can't switch my mind off.

I think the truth is that people who are seen as fun to be around don't think. They're fully conscious in every social moment rather than worrying about what happened yesterday or what happened tomorrow.

When you're in this state of worry, and not truly living in the moment, i think people around you can tell and they find it offputting

I recommend reading The power of now
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OP here. I posted this mainly to vent. I wasn't really expecting to get any good advice on /b/

But there's tons of great feedback here. Even from the one guy who said I sound like douche. I think this has all given me a good direction to go in. I'm feeling hopeful for the first time since forever. Thanks to anyone who's still reading this.
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>>731150343
>great feedback
>/b/
pick one
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>>731148211
At the end of the day, it just kind of comes naturally. Because honestly, making a concentrated effort to be someone people would like is kind of counter-intuitive. You're, at your core, not someone people would like, you're just pretending to be.

And I guess that it just doesn't come across naturally. You're not naturally charismatic enough to actually be naturally charming, nor are you sociopathic enough to be so good at faking it that you appear to be naturally charming.
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>>731150281
Don't feel bad, birthdayanon...i just had my 26th birthday, and no one remembered except for my mom. Again. For the 3rd year in a row.

I would say it stops sucking, but it doesn't.

I ended up working my birthday too, because my job pays 2x if you work your birthday. I've been living in my car for about a month now so I couldn't afford to pass up the extra money.
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>>731151073
why even bother ?
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if you use 4chan, the cancer is all over you, and it acts as a repellent to nice women and decent people... 4chan is filled with virgins and depravity that it makes people suicidal - nobody wants that in their lives. Stop using 4chan, let the sad little boys here find out the hard way that life is better when you're a decent human.
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>>731151126

I stared at my phone for 10 minutes trying to think out a good answer. I couldn't think of one.

To pussy to an hero and still have a flicker of hope that things will get better I guess.
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>trying too hard
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