I'm an anarchist, a radical unionist, a card-carrying Wobbly,

Do you think the third Bill and Ted movie will be good?

>>730940201
Of course not. I'm an anarchist, not stupid.

Why do you think anyone here cares about your opinion? You're just bored and trying to rile up autistic fucks.

Are you still active?

>>730940353
Well guess what then, no air guitar for you!

>>730940011
When did you stop taking your pills, little Timmy?

>>730940011
you´re probably a nice guy.

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Fight fascism by suppressing speech
Because it's OK when we use the same methods

>>730940011
Why are most of those things contradictory?


>obvious bait

>>730940011
You're a unionist and an anarchist? DOES NOT COMPUTE

>>730940492
Yes, but not as much as I used to be. I'm middle-aged now, and getting a bit long in the tooth to be mixing it up with riot cops; I keep getting older and they stay the same age. Now I'm more concerned with training the next generations of activists and organizers, especially since so few people get to be my age in my line of work without burning out, selling out, or dying.

>>730940011
Marxist/socialist/collectivist/whatever you want to call me leftist here. Why do you think anarchy is a good idea? Humans are a shit tier species and frankly I think government was the best thing that ever happened to us. I'd go so far as to say even the worst governments in our history were probably less destructive than anarchy would have been.

>>730940011
How can you be a community organizer and an anarchist

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>>730940011
You do not serve anything OP.

>>730940595
"It's okay, allow yourself a little hate; hatred is not so bad when directed at injustice." -- NoFX

>>730940636
Line of work? Does it pay? >>730940712
Anarchy is about community to a lot of people

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>>730940011
>Niec biat!

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>>730940618
Do some reading on the Wobblies. We're not your traditional union. We have never been about "higher wages" or negotiating with the bosses. We were founded in 1905 by anarchists, and we are openly revolutionary. We aren't trying to fix an inherently unjust system of oppression, we're trying to smash it such that no stone stands upon another. It's why we continue to thrive even after the worst the bosses and the State could throw at us for over a hundred years while other, bureaucratic unions are withering on the vine.

>>730940595
race exists only in the sense that it is a conceptual construct, attached to visual stimuli usually, and primarily used to shit on people that have less power socially

your image is an inaccurate, straw-manning of antiracist arguments

>>730940011
As an avid supporter for couchpatatoism, I've always wondered, what is the purpose and actual goal of antifa?

Hmm, anarchy is just a transition from catastrophy to a working system. After a flood there's anarchy, people raid stores for food and no one follows the laws.

Anarchy simply doesn't work, you are delusional.

>>730940772
... nooooooooo
Anarchy
>a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.

You're a fucking commi
It didn't work in russa cuba Venezuela china,north Korea the balken states ect
Why do you think it will work here?

>>730940879
this guy almost pulls off this look and then you see the ponies

>>730940011
FAGGOT!

>>730940666
Nice trips, Satan. Anyway, you don't seem to understand what anarchy is. It doesn't mean no laws, no rules, or disorder. It doesn't even mean no police. It means "no rulers." That's literally what the word means in Greek: an arkos, no rulers. Many aboriginal communities like the Hopi and the highland Yanomani have had stable, peaceful anarchist communities for millennia. Early US communities were anarchic: they met in town hall meetings and voted on laws and rules by simple show of hands. I'm not a leftist, incidentally. I'm a mutualist, which is generally considered slightly right of centre, left of the anarchosyndicalists, but not as far right as the individualists and egoists.

>>730941128
Motivate, why do you think anarchy is bad? Also, not OP.

>>730940712
Because anarchy doesn't mean what you think it means. See my previous post.

>>730940772
I'm a hobo. I make a small living doing tarot readings on a little folding table on the street. I'm also in the middle of renovating an old, abandoned building into a cultural centre to celebrate the traditions of hobo life, teaching people to busk, make folk art from found materials, do fortune telling, and other traditional hobo activities. Hobos were the OG MGTOW and have much to teach the current generation.

One of the more interesting threads I've seen. What's the plan after anarchy?

So you want to smash this system. It seems a waste not to have a plan afterwards. What's the big social priority in your new world order?

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>>730940943
Antifa is a pretty broad tent, ranging from trots and tankies to individualists. The only thing which unites all of us is our hatred of fascism, racism, and oppression. We have a lot of differences with each other, but we all recognize that the danger posed by fascists is worth putting aside our squabbles to kick them off our streets.

>>730941452
There's no "after anarchy." Anarchy simply means any system in which people collaborate by consent rather than with a gun pointed to their heads. Anarchism ranges the entire left/right spectrum from anarchocommunists like Piotr Kropotkin and Mikhail Bakunin on the far left to individualists and egoists on the far right like Lysander Spooner and Max Stirner. There are many, many possible ways to organize a community using anarchist principles. My personal preference is for mutualism, but I could probably tolerate any kind of anarchist community in a pinch.

>>730941218
That's retarded
What stops an out grouo from just steamrolling them... im guessing its a larger government allowing them to exist
>you dont get it
>waaaa my specific form of communism has never been tried

Your not an anarchist you're a fucking idiot
We need small goverment not no goverment
If anarchy was so great it be the system we ve using not the current representative constitutional republic systems we use now to govern millions of people with vastly different views and ideals
Also it siunds like you want mob rule an inherently bad choice in how to run things

>>730941642
>fascist
>anyone who i dont like or who disagrees with me,or doesn't fall in line

At least that what they act like what it means

>>730942011
I'm not sure there's much point in discussing this with you. You don't seem inclined to listen to anything I try to tell you, and you certainly aren't showing any signs of goodwill with your "idiot" and "retarded." Furthermore, you're just ejaculating a bunch of strawmen and proclaiming yourself the winner of some kind of epic battle taking place only within the confines of your head. If you want me to waste my time actually discussing this with you, try being a bit more respectful. See how I can disagree with you without having to call you names? Try it.

>>730940011
>anarchist
>antifa

Pick one

>>730941020
Big difference in definitions between "anarchy" and "anarchism," newfriend

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>>730942304
Who is "they"? I assure you, most of the antifa I've known over the decades have a very good understanding of what fascism is, and why it's dangerous. In the classic sense, fascism was invented by the Romans and premised on the idea that strength is created through uniformity of purpose and behaviour in service to the State, as symbolized by a sheaf of sticks cut to an equal length and bound to the handle of an axe: the fasces. Modern fascism as defined by Mussolini consists of the unity of State with corporate power, but shares the original obsession with conformity.

I happen to believe, as do other antifa, that conformity is a recipe for death. In nature, it's the generalists who thrive, while specialists are exterminated every time there's a radical change to the environmental niche they inhabit. Diversity is strength, not uniformity.

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>>730942557
You... you realize that the symbol of antifa actually has a black anarchist flag on it, right? I mean, the official antifa symbol explicitly shows the united front of red and black against fascism.

>>730942356
>oh no he has made a good point
>better call him small minded and pull out

I didnt even read your post but im guessing thats the jist of what you said

Communism/socialism in all their forms are shitty and don't work and dont make things better and yiu cant give mevan example pf a nation that is "red" that is anywere near as prosperous as a nation that uses free market capitalism
>Tldr your a fucking commi who believes in a system that can only work within small closenit communities not broad continent spanning nations

>>730942942
You just admitted you didn't even bother to read what I wrote. I'm not wasting any more time on you. Enjoy your jerk-off session.

>>730940011
you're an underemployed slum hipster who is incapable of a meaningful relationship with a woman. everything you said is just what happened as a result

>>730941642
yeah because fascist street people are such a danger these days

>>730942942
Im on my phone i got with money made by a goverment to facilitate trade between two parties that i got for exchanging time and effort of my own choosing based of an agreement/contract between myself and a larger group of people that i would receive said money at a givin rate per hour
So sorry for the spelling errors

>>730943181
>underemployed slum hipster
You say that like it's a bad thing. Not all of us can be young, white, middle-class, suburban teenyboppers, friend.

>>730943034
Called it
Also if we ever become an anarcho state ny tribes going to raid yours for your woman and food

>>730943497
You didn't call anything. You refused to actually read anything I wrote, then created a bunch of strawmen and argued with yourself. You jerked off and proclaimed yourself the ultimate stud.

>>730942792
And yet in humans specialization is what allowed us to trive in a large community there is no need for everyone to be mediocre at everything when you have enough people it becomes highly advantages for individual with in a group to specialize so the the group as a whole can benefit from a higher quality of the task/good that the individual has produced

>>730943941
You mistake specialization of function for specialization of behaviour. Fascism actually sacrifices the former for the latter. It's a procrustean bed which lops off the outliers, the very "misfits" whose genius creates the advances of science and technique responsible for our survival and growth as a species.

>>730943704
You're a communist
It doesnt matter what you dress it up as
It will never work, it literally can't
I dont need to read your post to lnow what you said
>hurr durrr my community controll
>hurr durrr ma no rulers
>hurr durr ma worker owned whatever
>hurr durr ma mob rule

>>730940011
Might wanna clarify by skinheads you mean boneheads, since ARA was startedin Ohio by skinheads. RI ARA

>>730944433
I'm not even a leftist. But this is the last time I'm going to respond to you, because it's pointless to waste time on someone who can't be fucked to actually read any of my responses.

>>730940011
The only logical form of anarchy is anarcho-capitalism. The Government mandates required for a left wing society cannot exist in true anarchy.

>>730944611
Sol, comrade. Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect SHARPs. Kids these days don't generally know the difference between boneheads and SHARPs so I didn't think I needed to bother.

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>>730940011
You’re a paedophile.

>>730944833
No issue, but if you aim to educate, educate. Be safe.

>>730944154
I tend to disagree
But what do i know i never waisted money at the indoctrination factory the call the modern university
And yes i am copping out i dont have an argument for you other then i think your confusing traditionalist with fascism

>>730944680
Its because your respones are always the same nigger kill yourself you commi faggot

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>>730944831
Capitalism is antithetical to anarchism. There's no such thing as "anarcho-" capitalism. Capitalism is predicated on the private and exclusive ownership of the means of production. It's propertarianism. If property exists -- that is, if the means of production can be monopolized by individuals -- then you have social classes based on one's ownership of said means. Social classes are antithetical to anarchism.

I'm a mutualist, which is usually held to be slightly right of centre. I'm certainly not a collectivist, leftist, or communist. But I most certainly do NOT believe in monopolies or in the creation of social classes. To quote Errico Malatesta, "Individualism is, in theory, a kind of Anarchy without cooperation. It is therefore no better than a lie, because liberty is not possible without Solidarity, without cooperation. The criticism which Individualists pass on government is merely the wish to deprive it of certain functions, to hand them over virtually to the capitalists. But it cannot attack those repressive functions which form the essence of government, for without an armed force the proprietary system could not be upheld."

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>>730940011
And yet you've completely lost gens y/z to a little green frog. Nothing you did mattered.

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>>730944831
Capitalism is an authoritarian economic system. It requires a state to enforce "property rights" and maintain the hierarchical distribution of power. It requires a state to enforce the notion that nature can be owned by an individual, and it requires force to prevent the exploited class from resisting the capitalist class. so called "free market capitalism" doesn't exist and can't exist without destroying itself immediately.

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>>730945596
Wei wu wei means having faith that the seeds one sows can lay fallow for years, or decades, or even generations before taking root. I don't control the world, but I do control my own actions. I've spent my life doing whatever is within by capacity to do. The seeds of dissent and revolution can fall on stony, infertile ground by the thousands: all it takes is for a single seed to germinate to begin breaking up the soil.

"The big system can be pretty overwhelming. We know that we can’t beat them by competing with them. What we can do is build small systems where we live and work that serve our needs as we define us and not as they ‘re defined for us. The big boys in their shining armor are up there on castle walls hurling their thunderbolts. We’re the ants patiently carrying sand a grain at a time from under the castle wall. We work from the bottom up. The knights up there don’t see the ants and don’t know what we’re doing. They’ll figure it out only when the wall begins to fall. It takes time and quiet persistence. Always remember this: They fight with money and we resist with time, and they’re going to run out of money before we run out of time." -- Utah Phillips

>>730945238
>anarchism
>shares a suspiciously close requirement to communism ie the abolishment of privet property

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

I learn u can join here but by the conversations held on these threads I must honestly ask...has anons morals dropped?

>>730945994
Ok were do you live
I want to "borrow" a few things :^)

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>>730946186
No. You need to read _What Is Property?_ by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. As a mutualist, I most certainly recognize ownership and possession. I'm no communist or collectivist. My stuff is my stuff, and I have a right to the full fruits of my labours. But there is a HUGE difference between ownership and property. Property is inherently oppressive and coercive; ownership is not.

>>730946364
>anons
>morals
Nigga what?

>>730940011
you are who i want to be. i love you

>>730946443
I have doubts many people will see a difference between "'stuff' that belongs to me" and "my property" regardless of how much philosophizing is involved.

>>730946525
There's no great secret to it. If you want a hole dug, pick up a shovel and start digging. My life hasn't exactly been comfortable, profitable, or risk-free, but I've had adventure and excitement, and I've tested myself against the harships of the world and come out broken and bloody but alive. Can't ask for more than that, really. Take some risks. Recognize that you're going to need to taste a lot of failure before you start winning a few sweet victories. The important thing is simply to start and keep going.

"Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." -- Mark Twain

>>730946680
Are you "many people"? Let them decide for themselves. You control you, and if you want to understand the difference, read _What Is Property?_

>>730946894
What if i want to dig a hole but i have some goats to take care off... can i give one of the goats im taking care of to someone else to dig the whole for me.. what if he doesnt want my goat? I need that hole dug!

OP,
Why are you posting on /b/?

You should be on /pol/

>>730940011
Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living and what is your yearly income? Also, what is your net worth, what percentage of that is liquid cash, and what percentage is invested in securities? Finally, how old are you and what country do you live in?

Why are you such a retard? grow soem balls and become a facist you cuck

>>730946965
No hes right the vast meme that
>stuff i own
=
>my property
Is pretty much known to the layman at this point
Mostly because this the base asumption i mean if you have to tell people to read a book to know the difference im pretty sure that ship has sailed

>>730947186
Odin gave up his eye at Mimir, the Well of Wisdom, in exchange for understanding. Yeshua hung on the cross to achieve apotheosis. Prometheus has his liver ripped out and eaten every day for the crime of showing pity for a suffering humanity. Satan taught Adam and Eve the difference between good and evil and was cast burning into the lake of fire. There is *always* a cost to be paid for wisdom. The sacrifices we make for the things we choose are how we define ourselves. Let the pain of existential choice burn away the unimportant things and reveal your truest self.

>>730947263
Because he knows that pol will shit all over his retarded ideology

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Would you suck a log of shit out of Andy Sixx's asshole?

>>730947528
Nigga im a white cap nialist dont talk to be about "ecistesal pain" or whatever not sense you want to think
Nothing you do will matter in 200 years so dont worry about it just try and not be a dick

How does it feel to be worth less than a rat? Both economically and morally.

>>730940011
what do you believe you did achieve, and what can you achieve? what difference does any political economic or whatever system make if they all are controlled by the same people?

there is no real difference between national socialists in Germany and communists in Russia and regular Americans or British. as long as central banks are private they control governments, those who control banks control it all, and guess what the same people control literally every central bank in the world except North Korean and maybe some other odd nation in Africa.

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Nothing to ask. Just: Keep up the good work, OP!

>>730947772
Inquiring minds need to know!

>>730940011
Will you kill yourself fb live, please? Thanks antifa fag

>>730940011

How can you be both anarchist and fascist? Doesn't make any sense. Is that why you were "on the board" in the local AA meetings?

And by radio show, do you mean internet podcasts (hosted on a capitalistic platform)?

>>730947294
I do tarot readings on the street on a little folding table. My yearly income has not exceeded $10k US in more than two decades. I have no vehicle, no cellphone, no savings, no insurance, no stocks, no bonds, and no investments. I live a life of voluntary simplicity; everything I own can fit in a single backpack, and the only things of value I possess are my six year old computer and a small collection of smoking pipes. I live in an unfinished, unheated cement and cinder block basement in a century-old factory which was abandoned for a decade. I have no fridge or stove and no shower; I have to take sponge baths in the sink. I sleep on an old piece of foam, and the only furniture I have is a desk and a chair, both of which I salvaged from the trash. My life is hard and spartan, but what I have is my own and I am beholden to no man. I've stripped my life down to the basics, and when I need a little relaxation I just head down to the river with one of my pipes and a pouch of tobacco to watch the cargo ships rumble by.

"Happy the man to whom heaven has given a morsel of bread for which he is obliged to thank heaven alone." -- Miguel Cervantes, from Don Quixote

>>730947858
Op
Work.
Irl shitposting is hardly work op is a loser faggot drop out who lives in a fucking box on a street corner who you would sooner assumes smoke crack then leads anything

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>>730940011

>>730947987

What are you going to do when you hit retirement age? Who will pay for potential medical bills?

And why do you live in a "spartan" way, when the spartans would literally torture and kill people with a mindset like yours?

>>730947987
Aka his a loser who fucked up and is trying to compensate for his failed life
And lives out of a box and leaches off pepple instrad of trying to be productive

Unless you want to end up sucking dick on the street dont be like op

>>730940353
>"I'm an anarchist, not stupid"

I hope you understand why I find this funny

>>730947846
There's no way to know what you've accomplished while you're alive. The last words of the Gautama Buddha were, "Be a lamp unto thyself." What he meant is that most people spend their lives focusing their light outward, searching for things, while what we need to be doing is pointing that light inward, illuminating ourselves as brightly as possible. That light reaches out into the world and changes it entirely without your conscious awareness. All you can do is hold true to your nature and make the hard choices, trusting that your light will shine where it needs to shine. You will likely never know who is touched by your light, just as those whose light has touched you are unaware of it. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

>>730946166
No, you have sown no seeds. All of your efforts have amounted to nothing. Nobody gives a fuck about wei wu wei or Utah Philips, get out of your echo chamber and talk to real people for a change.

>middle class youths spend their time fighting working and middle class youths thinking theyre support the proletariat instead of serving as brainwashed footsoldiers for the international finance bourgeoise

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>>730940011

>>730947987
You can fit a desk in your backpack?

If money is a tool of power and therefore oppression why have you deliberately restrained yourself from gaining power so as to fight the good fight against international banking?

>>730948722
>>730948644
mivehind

>>730948243
At some point everyone makes a choice. We all face the Abyss, that terrifying emptiness where there is neither meaning nor purpose. Most people turn away. If you possess sufficient strength of Will, then you step freely into the Abyss and fall, giving up all external authority, all values, and simply holding to the faith that there is something on the other side.

All I can tell you is that despite all the hardships, all the sacrifices and pain, all the discomfort and misery, my life has been full and I've never regretted the choice to give up safety for the fierce joy of an uncertain future. What will happen? I don't know. But whatever it is, I will accept it and endure it without excuse or self-pity -- and consider it cheap at the price.

"He who has a why to live can bear almost any how." -- Friedrich Nieztsche

>>730940916
>race exists only in the sense that it is a conceptual construct

>used to shit on people that have less power socially

hmm, how is it that they have less power socially if their race isnt a real thing?

>>730949045
>I will accept it and endure it without excuse or self-pity -- and consider it cheap at the price

I find it much more likely that when your needs grow past your means, especially in old age, you will simply turn to society and expect them to support you

Why does antifa in the Us only demonstrate at Democratic Party events? why don't you smassh some Starbucks up at Republican rallies?

>>730948507
that's some hippy bs... you're no anarchist... there is no reason behind you fucking shit up... that makes you a basic bitch vandal...

bankers made cattle out of 7b people and best idea as 'anarchist' you have is to be a lamp...

>>730947987
You seem like a spiritually sound man, and I can respect that. Many people with higher net worths don't have the level of contentment that you have, which is probably the most valuable "intangible asset", if you will...

I do disagree with a lot of your political views however, so let me play devil's advocate with you.. Do you believe you could have affected greater change had you focused more on building prosperity (property lol) for yourself, and accumulating wealth and influence that you could now use for your social/political means?

Did it hurt when daddy spanked you when you stole a cookie from the cookie jar at age 8?

>>730949045

It is all good that you have found peace and purpose in your life and all. Other people might find that peace lies in the materialistic.

As long as you don't blame society and make others pay when you need help, it's all good.

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>>730940916
race is biological, africans are further away from europeans than chimpanzees are from bonobos genetically.

Saying something "exists only in the sense of a conceptual construct" is known as "moving the goalposts" because whether I kill you or not can be considered meaningless "except as part of the conceptual construct of death".

Race exists, wanting your children to look like you and not have their ancestral lands be taken away from them is not evil, it is the fundamental right of biological life-forms. If the orangutans and native americans can feel this way, why can't europeans?

Do you feel the propaganda and doublethink falling from your eyes yet?

Modern identity politics was introduced so as to disguise the economic oppression that all who are not part of the elite face, we are nothing but interchangable tools and those uppity euro barbarians cause too much trouble with their independant thinking and so have to be subverted and mixed with the more agreeable serf races. This is undeniable.

It doesn't matter what race is the "best". Wanting to preserve your lineage, appearance and environmental suitability (did you know that weather fucking exists, temperature exists, climate exists, different diets exist yet you claimed hurrdurr humans are all the same, no we have evolved differently for different purposes in different places) is not "supremacy" it is justifiable self-interest.

>>730949427
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root, and it may be that he who bestows the largest amount of time and money on the needy is doing the most by his mode of life to produce that misery which he strives in vain to relieve." -- Henry David Thoreau, from Walden

>>730949427
>>730949605
Doesn't that quote kind of make the same point that I just made?

I think your a simple man OP, you live a simple live and enjoy it. But others aren't like you and have different desires. I don't think you can act like they are wrong or that you are right. Its different strokes for different folks, you seem to imply that others should live like you. But they have their own agency and wants in life. Isn't headstrong and ignorant to assume that others should do as you do?

>>730949567
This. Dude you said what i think in a much better way than i could articulate.

>>730940011
Anarchist's aren't violent. You are a piece of shit leftist.

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Do you boys appreciate that you are playing into the hands of the same Deep State that will crush all of us?

Unite the Clans.

>>730949936
No. My point is that in order to make the kind of money necessary to "fix" things, you have to do more harm than your fixing will help. The whole system is designed to be self-correcting. The only way to win this strange game is not to play.

>>730949989
The idea behind voltunary simplicity is to strip one's life down the minimum number of physical things necessary to achieve satisfaction. If other need more things, then they're welcome to them, but the evidence is that people aren't made happy by things; they spend their lives struggling to acquire more and more physical objects out of misery created through the struggle to acquire physical objects. The way the Taoists put it is, never pick up anything you can't put down. If you can put all your money in a pile and burn it, throw your car in the ocean, and walk away from your home with a laugh, then you can afford to have those things. If you can't, then you don't really own them, they own you.

"It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that is poor." -- Seneca

>>730950414
What about Bill Gates? How did he ever hurt anyone? He created computers that helped people and travels the world doing good. He's already donated half his fortune and will probably donate most of the rest. Is he somehow a bad guy?

>>730941642
Fascism is a political organisation used to prioritise the resources of the nation for the good of the nation, with strong emphasis on familial welfare.

How are these things racist or oppressive?

You can't just throw words together based upon what the Ministry Of Truth decides you should DoubleBadHate and then create a chaotic organisation to fight these things that don't actually exist. That's called retarded.

Meanwhile I can't even calmly, reasonably tell somebody that "killing white people is bad" in direct response to somebody who wanted to "kill whitey" without being removed from the discourse due to my resistance to the directly proposed massacre "making people uncomfortable". Muh privilege

>>730950101
Yeah but my explaining this to people is bad cause im whitemansplaining, remember. I'm racist because I'm permitting myself to speak despite being white. Hmm. I feel like people read 1984, but don't fucking understand it.

It is no coincidence that those who rule and want to continue to rule us want us fighting over identity, rather than being happy to be different. Multi-culturalism, not mono-culturalism. Respecting the lands of a people, not sidelining them from the discussion due to their heritage but listening to argumentation based upon rational discourse. Africa for africans, asia for asians, europe for europeans. A melted single race with diluted attachment to land or history means that they are easier to control and less likely to rebel against further and further control. Try putting a microchip in a 7th century german barbarian and see how far you get without him cutting off your fucking head.

Classical national socialism is resistance against both international capitalist wealthy control, AND a bastion for strong familities and ethnic survival. It is NOT A COINDIENCE that this style of government has been ruthlessly eliminated as even an acceptable form of discussion, to the point of violent opposition. Muh freedom

>>730950746
I don't want to spend a lot of time dissecting why Bill Gates is a fucking monster and that everything he touches turns to shit and horror. If you're genuinely interested, there are massive volumes which have been written about how Bill Gates and what he does and everything he represents is harmful, and that the "charity" he does is actively harmful.

>>730950713
The idea of wealth isn't to have things. Its so you don't have to worry about not being able to accomplish things and being able to do things in comfort.

Like if i want to go on holiday, if i want to travel. If i have money i can just do it. I can experience what i want and have fun. Meanwhile your in and abandoned building, sure your cool with it. But what if you wanted to go to India, what if you needed to vist family on the other side of the country. People don't just gather wealth to own things you know. And people aren't willing to do things day i day out without getting something for it.

>>730950746
>>730951010

Bill gates is like Mark Cucker, sorry, Zuckerberg. A tool of the elites, doing evil things because they think either that its sad but necessary (bill probably falls into this category) or that their victims "deserve it" (Zuckerburn).

Google about all the lovely birth defects and deaths Gates has caused and covered up in India

Oh and whilst you're there look into the so-caleld "zika virus", or UNICEF sterilising africans

Now don't get me wrong I'm all for having a stabler level of population, but spraying the world with alzheimers and cancer causing shit, and shoving needles into people via propaganda is not the way to go, because that puts humans in the category of chattle/cattle/slaves, who are not permitted to know the truths nor have a say or consent to the actions taken against them. That is called warfare, not welfare.

>>730950414
OK I see. I had interpreted it as "give all of your time and money to the needy, and you just make it worse. Invest in yourself, and you create prosperity for yourself and your community."

Exactly what harm are you causing when you make money? Obviously, if I invest in Smith & Wesson, that does cause harm. But if I make a profit selling goods or services that my community needs, who am I hurting? Or if instead, I have a successful career, say, as a programmer, helping to develop technology that you and I use daily, how does that harm anybody?

Also, the only way to "not play" is basically to stop living. When you buy bread, you make shareholders of Kroger or whatever rich. And that's good because thank god that there's people investing capital into system that allows us to walk into buildings and purchase food off of shelves. Wouldn't it suck if we didn't have that?

>>730951010
I'm sorry but thats not how it works. You don't say i can't explain why something is bad but it is bad. And expect the other person to believe it. You're not being objective. But that's it your an ideolog, instead of seeking truth you've decided you already know the truth and bend things/reality so it fits that veiw.

>>730951304
That is a statementwhere is the proof?

>>730951626
Actually you made a fundamental error. The guy merely says he is too lazy to explain it to you - that does not mean he has not researched it enough for himself.

He's just lazy, not dishonest. You however are making wild assumptions about his belief structure and decision making abilities, just because he didn't spell it out for you. People are rarely convinced by others dialogueing to them, it's often far more effective to just point people in the right direction. If YOU were objective, you would consider that maybe his claims have truth to them, and then seek out evidence

It is not other peoples jobs to convince you of the truth, if you require handholding for that then there is something wrong, especially if you then go out of your way to make false claims about their own ability to discern reality. Instead of looking for information, you just made a pointless, inaccurate slight against the guy. How does that help anybody?

>>730951751
You have the internet, the information is out there. I literally gave you search-terms. I am not your father, you are not 9 years old. You are responsible for researching your own worldviews. If you want to know, go look for it. Whilst you're there, look for the meaning of the word "obstinate"

>>730951895
No dice. If you make a claim the its down to you to try to provide proof. Especially if it's an extraordinary claim, this is why we ask religious people to prove god exists not for atheists to prove god doesn't exist. Lazyness is no excuse, also how am i to tell apart Lazyness from dishonesty?

Nice try OP.

>>730940011
Oh, cool to see another fellow cocksucker on this board. Tell me, how does it felt, when your organization was flooded by an army of upper class hipster teens with a hatred for dumpsters?

>>730942942
>Communism/socialism in all their forms are shitty
roads

>>730949567
>Modern identity politics was introduced so as to disguise the economic oppression that all who are not part of the elite face, we are nothing but interchangable tools and those uppity euro barbarians cause too much trouble with their independant thinking and so have to be subverted and mixed with the more agreeable serf races. This is undeniable.

there is more to it... that is about the conquest, the spin on good 'ol 'divide and conquer' thingie... war, unrest and such are always more profitable and easier to exploit than order and tranquility. Soros printed guides for African migrants on how to get to Europe, I bet he's paying for big chunk of transportations too... he doesn't give a shit about those people... Israel takes literally none of them in... what he cares about is staring shit up... increase criminality rates, increase national debts, all that "good stuff"... he's an international banker... he knows where the nations will go to borrow from

>>730951992
That has to be the lazyest cop out I've ever seen, your such a lightweight. If i am making a claim on the Internet and someone asks for evidence its my job to find it. I am making a claim that i believe to be true why wouldn't i? I mean you're trying yo convince someone of something why not get a checkmate? Why wouldn't you want to provide proof? Unless you didn't have any..

(((virtue signalling)))

Wow, you must be a really good person.

It seems like even after all his philosophy and thinking. OP is almost just as ignorant as the man in the street..

Let me guess OP is going to suddenly disappear.

>>730952334
police, firemen, army, navy... fighting socialism with socialism

>>730952851
I've been answering questions for three hours. I don't think it's "sudden."

>>730940011

>Anarchist
>Card carrying

Chose one

>>730953127
Ha, everytime i argue with ideologs they suddenly don't want to play anymore. Face it dude you've put yourself in a thinking box and your now just as ignorant as those you rail against.

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>>730940943
Their agenda is determined by a hierarchy of privilege. The ideas of a female, lesbian, Afro-american quadriplegic are usually much better than the ideas of a spoiled rotten straight white boy who has never suffered a day in his life and because straight white males cannot identify with oppression.

The merit of you ideas is based entirely upon how much privilege you've enjoyed and whether or not you have the courage to acknowledge that you've enjoyed privileges that you didn't earn, simply for being born a white male.

For example, a white straight male who is ashamed of himself is a much better human being than a willful obtuse alt-right sperglord who is oblivious to the fact that all of his success in life was handed to him on a silver platter.

>>730953127
You just got asked to provide evidence and couldn't. Instead of maybe changing your veiws on one specific point (not your entire world veiw). Youve stopped talking, its an intellectually weak cop out and its sad. That is all.

>>730952527
you can't expect people to regurgitate every little thing to you, he gave you arguments, proof is readily available, you should go and read it at your own pace.

>>730940011
I really dont understand the anfita-fascist dichotomy. The banks, the media, and everything that gives power is mostly owned by jews, they are the racist, they are the mafia, they are the ones corrupting the goverment, the CEOs, they are the ones shooting kids in Palestine, and you are just morons not fighting the real power, the bank, the jews.

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>>730940011
into anarcho punk and crust?

>>730952245
lol I'm not OP, I've actually been many of the posts criticising him. However if OP is the one who said Bill Gates is shit, then he'd be correct. It's called being a rational mature adult, not everybody who disagrees on certain things disagrees on everything else.

However, someone made a shitty non-point about Bill Gates without doing any research, and then proceeded to demand to be spoon-fed. Protip: I care about truth, and if you do as well, you won't require anonymous people on /b/ who you can't even distinguish between to tell you what to believe. Bill Gates is pretty shit, you can believe me or not. I am not responsible for your "conversion". The information is out there, if you care, look for it, if not, don't. I made no original claim, you are just locking yourself into a self-referencing, self-reinforcing spiral.

>>730953299
>>730953299
>tfw white male
>tfw dad is mentally ill hobo living on foodstamps
>tfw nearly became homeless during first semester of college

can i has privilidj too plz?

>>730953674
>I'm not OP just some guy that happens to completely understand and agree with him.

Whenever people have asked me for evidence of a belief i have given them some evidence. If i haven't been able to come up with it I'll be honest and say i don't have proof. Most the time at that point i end up conceding to their point because i really have no proof. I mean that's how it works, that is a debate. To try to run away from that is to be an intellectual weakling, with no argument.

>anarchist
>in a labor union
TOP FUCKING KEK LMAOOOO

>>730954076
If it's out there give it too mee. You went to the effort to write that stupid paragraph. Give me the evidence. Its not hard.

>>730953791
It's because anti-fa are funded by the dystopian elite as a way of silencing dissent and co-opting the narrative about justice. Occupy Wallstreet was about economics, now suddenly SJW rose and has completely suppressed it as the dominant form of "leftism". Convenient huh Same way Al-qaeda and ISIS are sponsored by Israel and the US. You probably knew that though, it's just hard to have to admit

>>730953791
there is no dichotomy... that is a strategy of pretending there is. like democrats and republicans in the US... it's same shit different packaging... all the bickering is just entertainment for the plebs.

every single president of the US was a member of CFR before election in last 100 years, except Reagan. all media networks are controlled through it...

>>730954131
>not being beaten by your mother from toddlerhood, then when you start getting big to hit back, getting beaten worse for daring to defend yourself against a female, then later on being told how youre innately misogynistic and oppress females and other races just with your very existence.

8-)

>>730954211
I think voluntary association is allowed in anarchist philosophies

>>730954076
>Bill Gates is a bad guy

"Proof please"

>lul no r u dumb do ur own reesearch

>>730940011
How does it feel to try bringing back one of the most flawful political systems to ever exist?

>>730940011
oh man sometimes i am antifa and i get a huge boner if i kick someones nazi ass

>>730954299
Still waiting anytime now...

>>730954134
if you can google it and find relevant result in less than 5 seconds, nobody has to provide you proof. it's there waiting for you, just go and take it, don't ask to be spoonfed

if it would be some outrageous or obscure argument you would be right to ask for proof

>>730954299
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=bill+gates+vaccines&addon=firefox
http://www.naturalnews.com/050842_Hillary_Clinton_Foundation_campaign_donations.html
http://yournewswire.com/depopulation-zika-virus-funded-by-bill-gates/
https://www.intellihub.com/bill-gates-soon-to-be-trillionaire-exposed/
http://naturalsociety.com/bill-gates-faces-trial-india-illegally-testing-tribal-children-vaccines/
https://usrtk.org/gmo/what-bill-gates-isnt-saying-about-gmos/

That's just his recent shit, not to mention the evil of the great oligachal spyware monopoly that is Microsoft. You are one lazy fucker

>>730954533
fight me

>>730954312
Yeah, it was a "question" to make normies think. They wont though.

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>>730954131
You're Dad had a 400 year head start nigga.

Squandering opportunity doesn't mean the opportunity never existed.

>>730954134
What if you kept asking me for evidence that my name was Zergleblarg, and I was too lazy to go and scan my birth certificate. Would I then have to concede that my name was in fact, not Zergleblarg?

That is now how you discover truth. I personally never told you you MUST believe anything. I just pointed out that you (or whoever it was) made a false assumption about how the other guy came to his opinion.

Study epistemology and formal logic. It will help, trust me. No offense intended, I'm sure you mean well. You just keep making minor errors that you seem to not realise, then base your discourse upon them. Be careful not to spend all your time trying to demand evidence for claims that nobody has insisted you must believe, rather than spending a few hours reading and understanding the complex interplay of the various factions and agendas in the world.

Yes, I said hours. I'm sorry if you want your entire worldview to be informed upon the basis of 5 second reading. Best of my luck my friend.

>>730940011
is that what you tell yourself at night?

>>730954986
>Dad
>Nigga
Something's not adding up

>>730954986
Fuck dat. You waz kangz while we were peasants dying from the rat-flu.

Good times, bad times, huh? But good thing that there really isn't any such thing as privilege, right? Unless maybe you have Kanye as your dad. But then that would suck too cause of all the publicity and also because you'll never be a self-made man

>>730955152
I'm not asking you to concede, it just really really sounds like you have no basis for your belief when you say something and then refuse to put forward any reasoning for why.

Also your a minor error and your name is Zergleberg but thats besides the point. It looks like a total cop out like how can't you see that??

>>730940765
I still don't think we should scream and get violent against abortionists

>>730954134
people like you are really really dumb

>intellectual weakling
my sides

>>730940011
Do you prefer pink or purple ?

>>730955823
Again, you missed the point entirely. If it wasn't so frustrating it'd be hilarious

My point of contention was that you claimed the other guy (i've no idea if it was OP or not) came to his conclusions in a certain way just because YOU were not satisfied with his level of interaction with you. Do you not see how that is incredibly self-centered and egotistical?

The Dalai lama has never directly spoken to you, is that therefore reason to dismiss buddhism?

That is the level of non-reasoning you are asserting. And for some bizzare reason you keep fucking ignoring the constant clues and direct urls to start you off in your search. Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you just enjoy taking up oppositional stances? I suggest a martial art instead.

>>730954809
These are mostly conspiracy theories, doesn't really add up to much. Sure a fee of those things actually happened those things are a lil shitty but this dude has raised 25 billion for charity. I mean that seem a lot better than being some asshole living in some abandoned building.

>>730956233
>I suggest a martial art instead,

Oh the cringe

>>730956429
fight me

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>>730940011
How long do you think it will be before some one like me kicks in your door in the middle of the night and executes you?

My guess is 1 year. One more year of this leftie totalitarian bullshit before the public has had enough.

>>730940353
You can't say something that contradicts itself.

>>730954986
>Your dad.

Because niggers don't have dads.

>>730945994
>Implying I need the state to enforce property rights
>Implying my shotgun can't.

>>730955966
I'm valuing proof what's wrong with that, took ages to get anything close to it totally stalled the conversion.
>>730956233
Okay I'm done cringing, OP stright up stated that he is beholden to an ideology. When i mentioned one rich guy who did some good he freaked out like a bitch. I think i can come to a conclusion at that point. Like if anyone believes in a ideology eventually you come to something they can't explain without conceding to what an other side believes in. At that point they squirm, isn't that obvious or you to autistic to add 2+2?

>>730957002
Anyone who thinks anarchism, or communism, could ever be functional denies history, and denies truth.

>>730957114
Exactly.

>>730956273
>These are mostly conspiracy theories
you say it like it means they are not true... it just means that they are not confirmed by elites... there are lots of secret societies, and there are lots of conspiracies... many of secret societies are proved to exist and to have colossal influence in all aspects of your life, your cash is full of masonic symbolism for fuck's sake...

>>730957425
No it isn't because i live in Great Britain, you know someone isn't as intelligent as they make out when they assume your American. If there ain't proof there ain't no reason to believe it.

>>730957114
communism was functional in many societies for prolonged periods of time...

Greek Utopia is basically communist... its closest incarnation in real life Sparta was semi-communist

>>730954312
I was amazed at how handily Occupy was squashed by the media and died without a whimper.

I even saw Elizabeth Warren on CNN the other day talking about abortion and police violence towards blacks...

>>730957874
Sparta was fucking horrible. If thats what communism is then i know I'm against it.