This week Trump had declared a trade war with Canada. He's

>>730882365
Why do I give a shit? If things gets too rough I can just kill myself and let you faggots deal with it.

Why do you hate Jill Stein?

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>>730882365
Worth It

>>730882365
LOL... K...

Have you even read NAFTA? Do you even realize how many canadians come over here for work with little to no issue and yet the harsh restrictions canada imposes on American workers going over there...

Bout time we started hitting back in some way.

>>730882365
Don't care still better then Hillary

>>730882488
that's the spirit

>>730882365

Not really seeing a problem here.

>>730882671
I do blame the DNC for blocking the Jewish socialist.

>>730882365
The day of the rake has come.

>>730882365
You do realize this is exactly what we wanted right? Sure some idiots were out their saying "hur trump maga" but for me this is just hilarious. Maybe he ends the world, maybe he just puts on a comedy show. Either way watching someone completely incompetent try to do something they can not is funny. We basically fed his ego until he thought he could do it and then left him on his own. Grow a sense of humor and enjoy these next few years.

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>>730882365
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU BETTER STOP SUPPORTING HIM GODDAMN IT
No chance.

Quit being fags and worry about your own foreign policy you fucking snowbacks

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>>730882911
>we
You're obviously a LARPing Bernie voter or an ex-Hillshill. Either way, I hope you realize no one but your own idiot brethren are falling for this.

To put it bluntly pal, I don't give a good god damn.

>>730882365
Good.
Best president in 100 years

>>730882365
How many of them do you figure have changed their minds? This may seem like he's burning the world to you but for his supporters he's doing a good job. You can't just shitpost and hope they realized the era of their ways, truth is no matter how much you want to believe in "trumpgret" people still support him. If you truly care about this go do something.

>>730882911
Okay share blue, thanks or whatever.
Don't you have some cuck porn to look at or something?

>>730882827
The price of American made vehicles and everything else containing aluminum will go up. So the price of our exports will go up. This means that we will sell less stuff in other countries. The GDP will go down. Unemployment will go up. I'm not as worried about the soft wood issue, because we have other options but what exactly are we going to replace aluminum with? Even if we find a solution it won't be immediate.
Full disclosure, I made my fortune off scrap metal recycling.

>>730883224
Can you even determine memeing from reality anymore?

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>>730882774

>>730883459
You're still here?

>>730882774
That's not even the issue. Its basically cutting off our nose to spite our face. The aluminium thing is retarded. Look around your house for a minute. See how much aluminium you have.

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>>730882365
No, really? Why would anyone do that?

>https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2017/04/why-were-verge-trade-war-canada-yes-canada-over-milk-yes-milk

Oh, wait, that is Canada doing the tariff shit. Maybe Trump was reacting to Anti-Comp Canadian trade policies then? But that is crazy talk.

Maybe aluminum for trade exists in other places besides canada. Stay salty snowbacks.

>>730883959
Yeah, this will sure show them... By fucking up our ability to compete in manufacturing by limiting our access to soft metals at prices found in other parts of the world. That's just brilliant. Like I said the soft lumber and milk I get, but aluminium? That's just stupid.

>>730883688
Yeah... God knows that aluminum can ONLY be found in canadiakastan...

News flash. It hurts them WAY more then it hurts us..

And if I pay a few cents more per lbs of metal I'll happily deal with it.

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>>730884084

Ikr, maybe some of those large multinational companies that buy large sums of industrial aluminum might buy them somewhere else.

>http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news05/alcoa-decision-to-end-smelting-operations-in-massena-will-slash-workforce-by-487-jobs-20151103

Or maybe keep those aluminum jobs in America and reap the profits? But hey, its not like there are paid shills on /b/ or anything.

>>730884084
Actually it's to restrict it from all sources on national security grounds. The basis for this is to boost production in order to ensure quality for metal used for military applications. So not just Canada. All sources.

>>730884364
Actually it's not explicitly on Canada. It's actually on ALL imports. Or could be, it's up for review.

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>>730884276

And, yes, this is classically how you show other nations that have anti-comp trade regulations. You fuck their shit up more than you fuck up our shit. We are the biggest dick on the block, so we fuck moar. I am shocked that your liberal arts college does not have any international trade courses.

>>730884774
Still fine with that.

Time to heat up our one forges and start smelting again and employ some Americans.

I care why? My lifes already fucked, do you really think I care what happens to this country?

>>730884532
The complaint is about how cheaper aluminum than we can produce... You're a fucking moron. Try and keep up. We can't produce it cheap enough. If we could then we wouldn't import. So we couldn't compete given material costs. It's just bad policy. That's why we haven't done it before.

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>>730884532

>>730884276
Yeah but we are an agricultural country do you realize how much of the worlds foods come from the US,Plus canadas oil exporting buisness relies on the US if those markets fail canda is basically fucked

>>730884908
Correction

*own forges

Perhaps we will strike some deals with China so we are on good terms when the Koreas get forcefully reunified.

why are liberals so anti american? what exactly happened to them to make them so warped in the head to think like this?

>>730885209
60's hippies that hated America taking over the teaching institutions.

>>730884809
So you're saying that we fuck our shit up in order to prove some sort of point? Reaganomics?

You think we are bigger than China? That we can out produce countries with no regulations and living conditions so far below our own that we refer to them as third world? We can't treat our employees that bad. We can't compete in that pissing contest. Also for the record number 2 when it comes to importing aluminum is Russia. Pissing contest with Russia...

>>730885083
And how much farming equipment has aluminum as an essential material in it's makeup? Almost all of it. So... Yeah. Everyone including our farmers take a hit. All because of a pissing contest with Canada.

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>ITT everyone is a literal pussy.

Also, Trumps a serious fucking faggot unless he starts WW3. He can't fulfill any promises unless he does so.

>>730885384
If countries don't compete they become third worlds. Foad pinko scum

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>>730885052

Yeah, yeah, yeah, shill salt. I know, I know, no need for logic on /b/. Meme time

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Anyways, back to /pol/

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>>730883110
kill yourself.

>>730885564
This isn't how you compete. We take cheap imports such as aluminum and turn them into stuff or use them to produce things that we use to make stuff. That's how you win. You don't win by starting trade wars you can't win over petty grievances or to boost a small percentage of the market in token gestures to appease your base.

>>730882365
>united states is the size of Europe
>thinking the united states doesn't have enough resources

kek

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>>730885750

>>730885896
fuck that shit. if I have to pay what an iPhone is really worth I'm going to be pissed.

>>730885896
That's not how it works. We could produce the aluminum, but can we produce it cheap enough? If so why don't we? The government doesn't need to step in if it's as simple as us needing to produce more from our given resources. We could even subsidize it like we do corn instead of starting a trade war. That's what China has been doing...well that and slave labor. Instead he'd directly stirring the shit and we take a hit in addition to possible tariffs or limits on American imports by the other countries in question. Canada, Russia, united Arab Emirates, China. Because those relations were stressed enough at this moment.

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>>730885384
*sigh* ok. How it works is that there are winners and losers on every side of the equation. They place tariffs on perishable goods like milk, their farmers win, our farmers lose. So, in order to stop said tariff, we place a tariff on imports of something that makes up a larger portion of their trade, like aluminum. Therefore they take a larger hit from the aluminum trade than they make on the milk. Then, you negotiate to remove the milk tariff for removal of the aluminum tariff. That is how it works. Also, in regards to the increase in aluminum price impacting Americans, we dont really produce shit in 'murica any more, so what the fuck will it hurt? It doesn't add that tariff to your iphone, that is a finished good. But hey, those multinational aluminum shills sure are salty aint they?
>http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news05/alcoa-leaves-suriname-government-high-and-dry-20170423&template=mwdt

>>730885750
>Kennedy..

LOL K.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/07/15/was-john-f-kennedy-the-flat-out-absolute-worst-u-s-president-of-the-20th-century-2/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/11/22/americans-think-john-f-kennedy-was-one-of-our-greatest-presidents-he-wasnt/?utm_term=.c5b1a1903427

Even the washington compost thinks he sucked.

>>730886149
this is why we can't have good presidents.

>>730886333
More importantly if other countries do they're not going to buy them. Not iPhones necessarily, because apple could just leave and move to China all together. I'm more worried about companies that actually produce shit in the states. If you have to pay for a car what it's really worth...

>>730886379
Harley Davidson, GM, Ford, Chrysler. Basically the rust belt.

>>730886718
Don't forget airplane manufacturing, beverages, and sex toys. All made in America and all contain aluminum.

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>>730886408
This is who wrote that article. Do you really believe him? His article has the analytical depth of something on cracked.com

>>730886952
AH... the good old ad-homonym attack...

Well i can't dispute what he's saying so i'll just attack his looks and charter.

>>730886919
Nothing says American like Pepsi and high end vibrators.

>>730887104
>His article has the analytical depth of something on cracked.com

Ah the old 'I'm just going to ignore what you said' attack. You might as well hang yourself.

>>730886952
I suppose you have similar attacks for the writer of the foreignpolicy.com story?

>>730887266
Oh my you ARE good.

So then show where is analysis is wrong rather then making attacks.

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>>730886718
>>730886919

Good thing we get that shit from China then, so there will be no actual downside for America, just a downside for Canada. So that means that this tariff is actually... super smart?

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>>730886718
>>730886919
>>730887581

Whoops forgot my proof aluminum shills

>https://agmetalminer.com/2017/03/16/uc-rusal-proposes-an-opec-of-aluminum-to-somehow-contain-chinese-production/

>>730882365
Eh. He's got 4 years to wreck the place up and continue to piss the vast overwhelming majority of the country off.

The worse he makes it, the more impossible a republitard win in 2020 will be.

The instant he's gone they're just going to shed everything he did anyway, as is normal now. His only lasting effect will be moving the US, and certainly the presidency, from an unfunny joke, to the punchline of that joke, to the butt of it.


Or Jews will kill him.

>>730884532
There could be 1,000,000 counties with one person in each and then 1 county with 10,000,000 people living in it. It's should be focused on population. But really it should be representational. The one county gets 10/11th say and the other counties each get 1/11,000,000th of a say each.

>>730885621
I'm not against Trump per se but like why do people act like this? Fucking inbred morons. He could be a good president but keeps fucking up hardcore.

>>730883688
How will we ever be able to find aluminum now that Canada isn't providing it?

>>730883688
All my shit is composite now.

1900s: Steels, Titanium Alloys, Alluminum Alloys
2000s: Carbon/Epoxy, Kevlar, Thermoplastics, PEEK, All FRP's.

Get with the times Canada.

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I didn't like Trump during the campaign (Hillary and Trump disgusted me).

But he's done well. He's not perfect. But I'd vote for him in 2020, and I'm a pretty moderate voter.

Stop whining please. Elections have consequences. The Democratic party is done for years, maybe forever.

>>730888361
lol

>>730887581
Actually it's on china as well. The aluminum thing includes Chinese imports. Or could. It's the primary example ncitrd as justification, even though our number one supplier is by far Canada. So... No. Also he's been threatening other tariffs on China since before the election. Fucktard

>>730888270
Not just Canada. Pay attention. He wants to limit imports from ALL countries.

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>>730888270
Canada besides Russia, has one of the worlds largest tungsten reserves..

if trump wants to start producing more shit in the USA, that requires machining, and what do we use in machining. oh yeah tungsten carbide!

>>730883169
>era
kek

You think softwood is the worst thing we could do?

We could sell CANDU nuclear reactors to North Korea and the US could really see what having an unfriendly neighbor is really like

Remember the saying "With a Greek as a friend, you don't need any enemies"

People should think that about to US.

>>730888361
Done well at what?

I voted for him and so far it's been a lot of vacationing and getting fucknothing accomplished but the negative shit that ruins Americans lives. Still waiting for him to do any of the shit he campaigned on to improve our lives, and getting the very real impression it's never coming.

>>730888299
Your beer cans and the engine in your car are made of none metallic composite materials? You got me, spaceman. What do you use for speakers? Don't Tell me, graphene. Because you live in the year 2030...

>>730885621
another proud, cuck virgin

>>730882960
k keep sucking the zionist's dick ig

>>730888756
>be me, wood worker.
>most my cedar comes from canada cause super duper cheap
>stupid bill hurts me not the construction industry that will just pass the cost on the already inflated home builders final house cost.

Trump's just going after business grudges.

>>730882365
America will rule the world by 2100 if repeating digits

>>730888628
And he's also specifically targeting them with the aluminum thing. It's ok all aluminum and they're the number two supplier. Between that and Syria...

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>>730888780
North Korea had to be dealt with at some point.

Gave us a great, moderate Supreme Court Justice

Deportations

Tax Reform (coming soon)

Healthcare (coming soon)

Stop whining you guys. Elections have consequences. He's only 100 days in.

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>>730888484

... Ok? Then American Producers of aluminum will make a windfall off of the increased viability of American Aluminum. You motherfuckers think that foreign aluminum producers sell aluminum the cheapest they can? No, they sell it for pennies less than american aluminum after all taxes, tariffs, and shipping. Because maximization of profits is the core tenant of most businesses. So the sky isn't gonna fall, cars won't become $100k each (mostly because we buy foreign cars now) and nothing is gonna change on the ground level. Oh, and hey, good thing on including China's aluminum imports too. That will help with the overproduction problem from my last piece of proof.

>>730889051
Wait, I thought Australia was like number 3 in the world in aluminum mining and refining?..

>>730889174
And already he's getting us into a potential nuclear war, and a potential recession. The consequence of which will likely be an end to the Republican party. Cool.

>>730882488
BASED
A
S
E
D

He either MAGA, or destroys the world. Win/win for me, no matter what.

>>730888299
Seriously. Metals ARE last century. Heavy, weak, energy-intensive, and expensive to work with. Tech school dropouts that become machinists think its great, but that's due to having shit for brains and being als out of date in every aspect of their lives.

>>730889314
>potential nuclear war

with who?.. china wont let NK launch a warhead. It doesn't benefit them in anyway. NK has nothing to lose yes, but NK does anything to fuck with anyone, including the US. it will be a good time and many KEKs when the USA, China and USSR-Russia go in there and turn their landmass into the fucking moon.

say it with me,
B 5 2
5
2

>>730888807
>beer cans
>car engine

lol

>>730889428
I wanna see you build a reactor cord shielding with plastic.. go ahead, ill wait.

>>730889245
Actually the real problem comes with starting the mining and refining processes. We can't just expand that for free. The initial increase will cost us a lot. Then there is the fact that a few pennies here and there add up to billions of dollars. Remember when Papa John's was arguing against minimum wage? When did we go from that guy being a potential pick for the administration to this fiscal irresponsible bullshit in the name of 'Merica?

>>730889245
Federal Protectionism bad! Free trade good! Except when it's not.

>>730883467
Nice Chinese made hat.

>>730882666
>stein
also because she was crazy.

>>730889174
>Deportations
Only an edgelord is happy about this.

>>730882774
>have you even read NAFTA?
no, and neither have you.

>>730889612
We don't use it in long obsolete nigger-tier 1950s reactor designs that we still make cuz durr hurr mopar hemi git r done

>>730889314
What the fuck are you talking about "nuclear war"? Do you think the chinamen will really nuke us for striking NK?

"POTENTIAL RECESSION"!? THE TRUMP RALLY HAS MADE AMERICANS TRILLIONS! THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING YOU FOOL.

Protip: Nothing is going to change. Nothing will ever change. It doesn't matter who is in the White House. Go be a cuck somewhere else.

>>730889761
Yeah, and Hillary wasn't.

AND TRUMP ISNT.

lol worst election choices in modern first world history.

>>730889428
Open the lid of your car. Also when is NASA going to build a rocket without metals? Open up your headphones. Until we get graphene production perfected you're stuck with metal speakers. The wiring in your tv, the wiring to your house for all but fiber optic internet, the computer chips, motherboards ... If I continued I could be at this all night. You're a moron. Also aluminum extrusions are used in modern cars to reinforce composite materials. So even your Tesla has aluminum parts. Lots of them.

>>730889966
neither hillary nor trump were anything close to being as crazy as jill stein.

>>730889865
you do realize the hemi engine design isn't even American. right...? I'm sure you don't. betcha you don't even know without googling it, what the fuck makes a "hemi" engine a hemi engine. besides orange paint.

>>730889891
The pentagon is pretty convinced the first nuke that flies to us soil will result in an instant free for all.

There are no shortage of countries, including a couple allies, that would love the chance to stab Caesar.

>>730889780
Fuck off wetback. Go make mexico great again.

>>730887400
Don't hurt yourself. Analysis is a big word for someone like you.

>>730889805
I have. I thought knowing that shit was essential for the election. I agree with you that that guy didn't read it, but you should have.

>>730890052
Jill is a qt3.14 though. What makes her crazier than Trump?

>>730890045
My car is a $12,000 bicycle. Its carbon & epoxy.

>>730890061
Found him!

Told ya.

>>730890127
>haha I'm using racial slurs because I'm on 4chan so my mom won't beat the shit out of me XD
I'm white, anon, I'm just not a retarded edgefag.

>>730890194
12k for something you have to pedal. kek well meme'd

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>>730889633

You mean refining in American places where they have plants on standby just in case of an increase in the viability of American aluminum?

>https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/30202/20151124/alcoa-announces-3-5-year-grace-period-for-massena-plant

The really key sentence there is how the subsidies will decrease based on the price of aluminum. I will assume that you are just not that filled in on the facts, but if not, nice try aluminum shill

>>730887400
I won't deal with foreignpolicy.com's article, because I won't deal with pop up ads.

But let's take a look at Dylan the faggot's article on Kennedy. I have no idea why Dylan has such a fucking hard-on to deface Kennedy, but he doesn't do a very good job a stabbing deep.

>1. The Cuban Missile Crisis was his fault
Nah. There would have inevitably been an incident like this with the USSR. He kept the nukes from flying, and that's a fucking good thing...I think.

>2. The Bay of Pigs invasion was his fault
He's right. It's not 100% his fault. Let's remember that the plan started with Eisenhower. But JFK should have veered away from it.

>3. He escalated in Vietnam
He didn't escalate enough. Stupid dinks.

>4. Oh, and he backed an ill-advised coup in Iraq too
Duh. That was a Soviet backed sand-nigger during the cold war. Kill him.

>5. He went way too slowly on civil rights
Slow and steady is okay for some things.

>6. He passed no domestic legislation of any consequence.
He had sex with Marilyn Monroe. That was important.

In conclusion, the guy who wrote that article just needed get paid to pay for fag shit and hamsters.

>>730890272
lol jesus christo that was fast.

>>730890168
she thinks the condensation behind airplanes is a government conspiracy to control the weather in an attempt at mind control.

>>730890284
>classic kike move of claiming to be white when its convenient

No but seriously immigration laws, borders, and countries exist for a reason. Get that other globalist bullshit out of here.

>>730887979
Why "Jews". Must we clean up your mess? We didn't vote for him, unless you mean the Jews he's related to. I can totally see that. His son in law just cracking one night and beating him to death with the Coke button on his desk... That kid barely graduated college and now he's expected to make peace in the middle East? Also he has to deal with Bannons barely contained jealousy and anti-Semitic rage.

>>730890127
Try harder nigger.

NIGGER!

>>730882365
we dont import wood from canada you fucking mong

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>>730889656

lol, it is like you motherfuckers never had to do any business negotiations at all. And free trade is never good, because the only true "free trade" is the fucking barter system, and fuck that shit. I am more for things that help me, and my country. Fuck the rest of the world, MAGA. Bring back the Munroe Doctrine!

>>730890521
Can you even explain your muh globalism maymay or are you just mindlessly regurgitating what /pol/ indoctrinated you with?

>>730890650
we dont import anything from canada.

>>730882488
This is the greatest answer ever

>>730890521
Someone should have deported your ancestors. The majority of illegals actually came here legally but overstayed their Visa's. That's not s matter of national security. It's barely worth the effort. Deport the ones who commit other crimes and fast track citizenship for the rest. You'd agree if they were all white.

>>730882365
>be me
>be Canadian
>live in the poorest province with highest taxes
>softlumber.jpg

>>730890290
>have to
you mean "get to"
I'd kill to ride a fully loaded Santa Cruz or Yeti.

>>730890735
nah, he cant. he doesnt know about airplanes yet, he still thinks isolationism is possible.

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You guys have to stop whining.

We won. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

You chose Hillary. And lost. There will be more elections.

>>730884532
>
You're a legit retard. One day one of you autists is gonna have to explain why it makes more sense to let farmers decide how we run cities than for our cities to have say in how we run farms. The electoral college is just a way republicans effectively disenfranchise more than half of americans.

>>730890820
>be me
>be american
>live in the wealthiest country innaworld with one of the worst falling quality of life ratings and falling
>softpenis.jpg

>>730890966
>you guys have to stop whining
lol no.

>>730882365
It's funny how you fags shill for the left. Nothing better to do, makes sense to bring up politics on a Saturday morning.

>>730890966
Did your brain just shut off nov 6th and then never turn back on again?

Because that's what it sounds like.

>>730890989
farmers should say how we run farms. someone who read a few books about ecological agriculture and took a trip to see the calfs at a local farm probably doesnt really know much about farming.

>>730891087
I love how we're shilling but not you. You're not shilling, you're fuckin redpilled amirite? XD

>>730890312
We only have one smelting plant here for high grade aluminum. One place. ONE. Google it. That's literally it. Fucktard. Still not a major issue as we export 3 million metric tons. We can't currently scale that to demand if we were to seriously cut back imports.

>>730891087
shut up russia, its not even 3 am on the east coast yet.

>>730891207
Farmers are notorious for being under educated... have you taken a look at the farmers almanac? yeah and there's shits out there who still believe that. also farmers aren't taking soil samples and studying them, nope, a dude who read a few books and took a trip to see calfs are...

do you actually believe the shit you spew?

>>730891337
LEET AS FUCK.

>>730882488
Legend.

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You libtards are all the same

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>>730882365
OH NO A TRADE WAR!!! Its not like we don't produce both of these products in america.My Monster cost 5 cents more oh the humanity.

>>730891225
I came here to have a cig, I know habbit. Honestly, I'd rather study. If I had to vote again it would be for your daddy.... TrUMP .

>>730882365
https://youtu.be/utX-8-dDwik

>>730891207
lol

If you ever actually knew any farmers you'd realize how fucking backward you have it. The amount of chaos and destruction farmers have caused to the soil and land due to thinking they "know" more than they do, based on their own shaky mix of folklore, anecdapotal experiences, bible stories, and hearsay, makes for a fucking shitload of farmers that require an even greater shitload of Ag scientists and their scary evil books and wicked sinful laboratories to fix their problems and keep them in business.

Romancing the past is all fun and games until it becomes real, and knocks your ass back into that past.

>>730891618
yea, lets let the dreadlock city people run our farms so we have "organic" shit everywhere.

4 OUT OF 9 ORTHODONTISTS RECOMMEND 4CHAN FOR THEIR SOURCE OF ALLITERATIVE NEWS

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>>730883959
Do none of you really understand the wood thing? Ok, so for the last 30 ish years the US has cried like a bitch claiming that Canada has been subsidizing their lumber producers.WTO investigated and agreed that Canada WAS NOT THE FATHER....I mean were not subsidizing, WTO agreement gets a 25 year clause put into NAFTA. This 25 yeah deal just ended. Canada and US are negotiation over milk and eggs/poultry. Canada has massive tariffs on American milk and eggs/poultry because US is cry baby bitch and IS subsidizing their own industry so Canada imposes tariffs to allow their own producers to compete against subsidized american products. Canada wont lower tariffs, cheeto nuttz, i mean herr drumph, comrade... err Trump thows a crying fit and puts a counter tariff on Canadian softwood.

I went to the farmers market once.

>>730891207
Yes. And that doesn't mean you should get to decide the president. We aren't so segregated at this point as to justify the current electoral system. Even worse is the house which is largely the product of gerrymandering. This gives rural folk an disproportionate voice. Yes, I know that just because you're farmers it doesn't make you plebes. The proletariat were actually literate and rather keen to further themselves through formal education.

>>730891830
that's pretty much what >>730891377
and >>730891618
said.

>>730891830
was it nice?

>>730891734
Idgaf, bury your head in the dirt.
Come out here, move to a farm, we'll do it for you.

>>730882365
Im canadian and I dont really care lmao i like trump to. Make merica great again

>>730891377
The people who take the soil samples and test livestock live in the same counties as the farmers the majority of the time. These are educated people who grew up in places like the cornbelt. You really think hipster dumbasses in major cities are clamoring to work in agriculture? Don't talk about something you know nothing about.

>>730891877
SHUT THIS IDIOT THE HELL UP

KEK

You fucking retards aren't current on the news.

Trump's leaving Canada alone after Trudeau called and spanked his ass.

>>730891917
jesus fuck you've never been near a farm.. shut the fuck up son

>>730891954
sorry you grew up in a nowhere place...

but no reason to get aggressive over the fact that YOURE WRONG.

>>730891
No it's not, I was saying someone should turn this thread into a my lil pony thread.

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>>730891982
Waah, I don't have an argument so I'm going to demand that someone else shut him up.

>>730891830
I hope you told all the people who went to the lengths to grow the food their food was shit.

If it's not pumped full of hormones and hybridized and genetically modified with anthrax carriers, it's shit food.

Of wait, I mean, scientists don't know anything about food, only farmers do. But not farmers that uh... use... scientists work...

Fucking cognitive dissonance tornado.

>>730892089
he got trumped again

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>>730890989
LOL. Ok buddy, so your logic is that we shouldn't let farmer run cities, we should let cities run farmers? That is idiocy. We should let our elected government run all of it, and shock! that is what is happening. Just because the government thinks the farmers have the better idea, doesn't mean you gotta get salty, just put up a better candidate next time. and as for a way to disenfranchise more than half of americans:

Say you are running a business, and there are 50 owners. Each of those owners gets a share, equal to the amount that they brought to the business. They are allowed to sell their stock however they wish. Now, if 49 of them sell 1000 units of stock, but one of them sells 10,000,000 units of stock. Should those 10,000,000 control the company because there are more of them? No. they have undervalued stock.

Same thing with states. Each extra person in a state is a devaluation of the inherent voting rights of all citizens of said state. That is how it works. It was made this way, so that one state cannot be a slumlord state, and run the country on the weight of their masses. If you don't like how that is, move to one of the red states. But you won't because then you might see how it is in one of the red states, and change your mind.

>>730891877
i never said anything about deciding the president. I would tend to agree with you, except that I live in upstate new york and have a lot of experience with big city people living in one little area calling the shots for the entire state, pretty much the other way around from the electoral college. city people are afraid to leave the city and dont care to know this lifestyle.

>>730892089
Do tell.

I love Canada, and Spankings. I couldn't give a fuck less about politicians, but I'll make an exception.

>>730891929
I came platinum diamonds

>>730892139
I live in vermont. it's pretty much all farms, with a few hipsters looking to get pictures of themselves "out in the field" to post on facebook.

>>730892209
Trump does look like a pussy when he talks tough and the other nations put him in line.

>see Germany
>see Mexico
>see Canada

>>730882365
Is that a picture of the world if Hillary had won?

how convenient it is that the farmers come out of the wood works to join in some fagchan debate that means nothing..

hilarious..

you faggots wouldn't know a farmer's area code if it called you within the next 2 hours

>>730892292
Same everywhere. Everyone I grew up with in the country that moved to the cities, won't come back to our hometown hardly ever. I guess I can't blame them, but still, wtf, did they appreciate nothing?

>>730892434
no, its if jill stein won.

>>730892423
You have been fathered by Trump, take your politics to /pol

>>730892417
I fucking hate hipsters as much as I hate rednecks. Goddamn groupthink morons, and they fucking breed.

>>730892497
you think people in rural counties have anything better to do on a friday night than come on here or watch some shit on tv?

>>730892497
Fuck drop it, www.farmersonly.com

>>730891618
My uncle is a farmer and my girlfriends father was a farmer. My uncle was raised Jewish, went to college, ran a business and retired to farm. He's making bank. My girlfriends father barely graduated highschool and great up in farm country. He fucked up the land and went nearly bankrupt. He now mows lawns for a living at the age of 70. Yeah, if you're smart you can literally just become a farmer. You hire some smart people and send the soil to labs. Who do you imagine works at the labs? Do you think they all grew up on farms? This isn't a segregated society where you're born into farming or will never become a farmer. Oh and my girlfriend, she's a biology major. Used to be a nurse.

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>>730892552

>>730892186
GM crops are safe and better for the environment.

Big flaming dumb leftist cunts

>>730892497
Oh here we go. Self-proclaimed King redneck steps up to the plate, keepin it real. He's so farmer he drives his farm truck to high school, with stacks and a 13" lift kit. He's so farmer the rest of you wouldn't know a farm if a farm farmed out of a farm on your farm and started to farm.

Shit never changes.

>>730892783
Fuck off kikes go home!

>>730892962
youre gonna ruffle a few flannels with that post. these guys are gonna pull out a few dreads trying to go to "i'mright.com" for evidence that this isnt true.

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>>730892281
You're entirely missing the point. The people who live in farming country have votes that are worth more than people's who live in more densely populated states. Even if you're a farmer who lived in a more densely populated state you're vote for house Representatives is currently worth more due to gerrymandering. So the government is picked by people who live in less densely populated areas as opposed to by the majority as a whole. These people are overwhelmingly white, poor and poorly educated. This is how we get Trump and company. This is why we are fucked

>>730892783
And what have you done with your life?

Nothing that's what. That's why you ended up here. You haven't got shit to brag about, you utter disappointment and catastrophic failure of human potential.

Try reading a fucking technical book instead of writing fiction on here.

>>730893069
>he drives his farm truck to high school
there was a guy that drove a tractor to my school when it was warm out. he wore a cowboy hat in his senior picture and his quote was something like "somewhere in ford country a chevy rusts"

he wore overalls and dirty timberland boots a lot.

Farmers are worthless, like the rest 9f you. Trump

>>730892962
The product of scientists? They don't know anything about farming anon. They just read a couple books. Farmers have all the knowledge.

>>730893316
youre on 4chan at 3 am on a friday night.

>>730893316
Lol, agreed

>>730893316
Scrap metal actually. What is it you do?

>>730893143
yeah it's unbelieveable
i met a person majoring in permaculture and the shit he believes about GMOs is ridiculous

>>730893511
What's your major?

>>730893582
lol

>>730884532

that pic only shows your own stupidity
thanks for the heads up

>>730893582
Environmental science

>>730893582
Farming, duh...

>>730892962
Well except when they're designed to let you use more herbicide in order to maintain a monoculture and incidentally fuck up say the bee population due to milk thistle....besides that though.... And that's why the government needs to regulate the use of shit like those chemicals. Trump wants to deregulate it. Enjoy that thought.

>>730893511
I know a lot of those guys. the main philosophy behind permaculture isnt actually that dumb, its just the "everything is a conspiracy by the corporations" position that makes it so retarded.

>>730884532
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million

>>730883959
Your post image basically comes down to "all the uneducated people who had no idea how their desires were manipulated into making them believe they wanted Trump as a president, wanted Trump as a president."

Because lets face it.

None of those people are benefitting.

>>730893761
Trump is your father

>>730893892
the voted trump for two reasons:
1. stop liking what i don't like
2. oh good this guy says he hates some of the same things i hate

>>730889285
Not in US imports. It's like number 5. Anyway limiting ALL imports means we can't just get it from there either.

>>730893881
yea, and there were exactly 3.1 million dead people and illegal immigrants who voted illegally, so not really.

also some shit about california.

>>730893761
nah man making herbicide resistant crops is 100% a good thing
>can grow more in a smaller space
>you lose less

you know farmers have to keep some of their fields for just regular non-GMO crops to reduce pest tolerace

ideally you use a combination of pesticide and GMO so you don't fuck with the ecosystem by letting pests get used to the deterrants

>>730893892
your response basically comes down to "I disagree with the majority of america"

>>730894156
>no proof

KEK

>>730894156
Still waiting for literally anyone to produce any evidence for this whatsoever.

>>730894320
we have the evidence, you retard. you just arent allowed to see it yet.

>>730893955
Wait, are you implying I'm Barron? Actually the is a hell of a thought. Do you think that his kids actually agree with him or do they basically just roll their eyes and hope to sway his crazy ass away from using nukes?

>>730893809
we should be taking advantage of the technologies we have
permaculture is ultimately a purist philosophy which is completely unnecessary

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>>730882365

>>730894437
yea, but it can create a farming culture of love and acceptance of our diversity. it just like gets people really in touch with the landscape and stuff, you know?

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>>730885314
Tfw liberals are literally trying to socialize the Oligarchic Plutocracy that is America so that the middle and lower classes, which make up 98% of America, can actually live in peace.

Tfw Republicans literally fight for policies that maintain Nazi rhetoric in the form of White purist, Protestant Christian values that have no place in modern societies.

Tfw you've all been strategically lied to by the Big Money-backed Republican party, so that you continue to be Sheep being preyed upon by wolves.

Tfw no one on /b/ knows wtf they are talking about and should just continue to post Spidreman, because that's all you're good for at this point.

Tfw you realize /b/ is full of beta trolls who lick the gunk off of Mistress Ivanka Trump every time she sits down to take a shit on their chest.

>>730895026

tfw anon makes a valid point.

>>730892281
Hey retard, the governemtn doesn't think the farmers have the better idea. We just have an antiquated system that gives farmers a disproportionate voice.

And millions of republicans living in cities are disenfranchised too just because they are surrounding by slightly more liberals.

I live in a red state. They're objectively worse in nearly every way. Of the bottom fifteen ranked states in education fourteen are red states and have been for decades. They have higher rates of STDs, teen pregnancy, lower rates of adult literacy, higher poverty rates, and you fucking retards still think you've got some sort of secret figured out. They try to teach christianity in public schools and are staunchly anti-science.

Then with their shit tier education systems they build the next generation of retard conservative voters who will keep the shit cycle spinning to the detriment of everyone else.

I can't wait until Canada turns around and bans our meat and milk the grounds of national security for some equally bullshit reason and Trump has to negotiate. It's "Trump's America" that will be hit the hardest. That's why he didn't pull us out if NAFTA.

>>730895125
wow, you suck. must be why youre sitting on 4chan at 3 am on a friday night.

>>730885750
You know he got us into the Cuban missile crisis right?

>>730895469
yea, and we won, they lost.

>>730895125
Well someone's got to produce the ditch diggers... Or have illegal immigrants and robots taken those jobs as well? Also I wouldn't worry about the education gap or public schools in general. http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/04/president_trump_orders_betsy_d.html
Betsy's on the job.

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>>730894251
Oh wow, no surprise here, you're an actual moron.

"Majority of America" voted for that cunt Hillary Clinton.

Trump won the electoral vote. Let me break it down for your mongloid brain.

Winning electoral college does not equal winning majority vote.

You've been lied to. And you're too much of a pussy to admit it. So you accept it as a truth and live your life happily in denial.

Kind of like when you suck your dads cock but convince yourself you're not gay.

But youre a faggot, son.

>>730895395
And what are you doing? Oh, right. Also nice time zone assumption.

>>730895543
he won a majority of the country. do you not understand geography?

>>730895609
I'm just helping you realize youre a faggot.

ok, maybe you live west of me. that only makes it more embarassing.

>>730895629
0/10

Goddammit, you're disappointing.

>>730895676
I'm central time.

>>730888869
Keep using those words and you might hurt someoneso feelings, and you liberals can't have that.

>>730895676
Does that make you a faggot as well? Want to make out? It would be the closest you've ever come to getting laid.

>>730895828
ok, so its now 230 am on a friday night and youre sitting at home writing your bitchy little manifesto.

you suck.

>>730882365
>He's wanting to restrict important of aluminum
You mean "importation," anon?
Yeah, with that command of English, we're all sure you're very wise to politics, trade and the economy.

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>>730884532
>>730884532

Well would you look at that ...

>>730895892
fuck you dude im like 6'8" and could crush your head like a berry.

>>730895469
Actually, he got us OUT of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

>>730895897
And I'm assuming you want a blowjob? Sorry cowboy, I'm straight and married. As to why I'm awake, I have pain from an AVM. What's your excuse?

>>730895931
yea, the majority of people live in a minority of america. if clinton won then the minority would have chosen the president a majority of america didnt vote for.

>>730895988
lol I looked up what that is and its pretty hilarious. youre gonna die.

>>730895972
in and out in less than 2 weeks.

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>>730886412
No, THIS is why we can't have good presidents.

>>730896042
>>730896042

You know tracts of land don't get a vote, right?

>>730882365
Canada should stop sending it's oil down, that will give them a nice fucking over.

They're set up to send it to China, so fuck Trump.

>>730895951
Like 6 foot 8? Like? Also two things. One I was inviting you to make out, not for rough sex and two it's the internet.
I'm a former martial artist. I'd make you my bitch in person, but like your claim of height you're just going to have to take my word.

>>730896125
they pretty much do, thats how the electoral college works, which is how we pick our president.

>>730882365
canada started it

>>730896157
lol you gonna paint me a martial picture that hurts my feelings or something you little bitch? I crush soda cans with my flaccid penis.

>>730896125
Actually it would appear they do if you were to simply do the math.

>>730890736
Beer and whiskey

>>730882774
Hitting back lol, your corporations don't want to hit back, they're happy with the way things are and they have the money. So good luck with that.

I know a cannuck working in the US, every now and they the company is required to look for a citizen to fill the job so they pretend to look for someone, say they can't find a qualified person then hire the canadian back to work a week later, been going on for over a decade now lol.

>>730896084
Yeah, real funny. Dick.

>>730896314
lol no. my beer is from north carolina.

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>>730882365
As someone living in canada, and paying the ridiclous taxes here. You have no idea how lucky you are with Trump. You have a leader who was elected on a populace nationalism platform. He is Sayin America First. Other nations who want access to your markets better be ready to dance to americas tune of get fucked.

Now canada and its subsidized lumbar system is going to have to change. They are going to have to abandon socialist price fixing and embrace free market economics.

Thank you America

>>730882780
Yea, that damn warhawk was just going to lead us into a war...

oh wait.

>>730896242
That's an interesting hobby. How are you still single?

>>730896474
why would you just pick one chick?

>>730896515
Love. Why can't you find ONE chick who charge you an hourly rate?

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>>730892281
You talk like state lines aren't basically arbitrary units being used to disenfranchise voters based on where they live. Probably because it only works out to benefit one party and you're a fan of those boy fuckers.

>>730896084
Edgy.

>>730896743
lol you little bitch. love is just a marketing strategy by the corporations to keep people buying their shit.

>>730896789
good, you know what that word means.

>>730896772
it worked out to benefit the other party 8 years ago.

>>730896772
States rights. If not for states rights I wouldn't be able to get weed for the avm related migraines. Then again if not for Republicans... OK, good point.ets tear down those walls. Rule by majority. What's the worst that could happen?

>>730896878
Obama won by 10 million votes in 2008, so no. Trolling, or Trumptarded?

>>730897062
congress didnt win by 10 million votes

>>730896947
>What's the worst that could happen?
trump vs kanye in 2020.

>>730896813
Wow, you must be one seriously lonely little bitch. "Love is just a marketing strategy". Like corporations just made it up. We're there big corporations doing that in ancient times as well? If you had said monogamy was a flawed concept or that men are only wired for serial monogamy as opposed to life long then you'd actually have a point. But instead you're all "Love is a conspiracy to sell us stuff". What an asshole.

>>730897324
wow, you need to get an education and get informed. you are a blind sheep.

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>>730897324
Put on your tinfoil hat and study it out maaaan!

lol

>>730894244
Herb not pest. Few pest control agents are caustic enough to kill plants. The problem is Roundup ready plants leading to the illegal abuse of Roundup by fucktards desperate to save their livelyhoods and greedy cunts.

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>>730896947
Because that's what I was talking about. Eliminating statehood itself.

>>730897446
You need to get laid.

>>730897720
ok.

I think the real issue here is that americans can't spell aluminium

>>730897147
>Trumptarded
We were talking about the electoral college, sport. That doesn't have anything to do with electing Congress. Stay in the sandbox.

>>730897809
And not by a relative or professional. Also I don't actually recommend one night stands. I had a few. It's lame.

>>730897931
no, we werent.

>>730897923
This guy is correct.

>>730897946
thanks, De Beers. i'll think about it.

>>730882488
Fpbp

>>730897923
I don't have a dictionary on hand so I'll have to check my encyclopedia

>not having a magnesium engine block

>>730882488

THIS

>>730898125
yes you do, its called google.

>>730897963
You probably have a learning disability.

>>730898043
Actually I gave mine a lab grown emerald. I don't support the diamond trade. Plus the use of diamond rings doesn't predate the concept of romantic love. Traditional wedding rings have always been just plain gold. In one culture it was actually Jade necklace. In England it was once a gold knot. In India they don't traditionally use rings but rather dots.

>>730898266
You missed the American spelling joke.

>>730898389
nope.

>>730898463
nope.

>>730898401
ok.

>>730898498
encyclopædia vs encyclopedia. The æ being the correct...oh forget it.

>>730898669
nope.

>>730887104
>ad-homonym attack

why did i kek so hard?