Name a better video game. >Protip: You can't. inb4

>>730779321
Story's better than Skyrims. Better map too.

morrowind, with the shitty graphics
no question about it

>>730779586
/thread

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Oblivion and Witcher 3 ties for best RPG, imo.

>>730779584
Never had the nostalgia for Morrowind, it's too hard to get in to after Oblivion spoiled me since xbox 360 was my first microsoft console.. I'm sure it would have been amazing at the time, Oblivion still aged decently.

>>730779321
this is why I can't wait for skyblivion to release

Idk, I thought the elder scrolls 4 was better than Oblivion.

>>730779321
Daggerfall

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>>730779321
Newfag never played

I really want to play it, but I played Skyrim first. I;ve started Oblivion like 6 times, with with varying amounts of mods, but I just can't do it. The graphics/ animations don't bother me, but the combat is just so awkward and clunky and... bad.

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>>730779750
Pretty much, man. Pretty much.

>>730779501
Better everything. I'll concede leveling system. That was poor and Skyrim's perk system wins hands down. But even with that advantage Oblivion is still the better game.

>>730779321
The magic's better on Oblivion for sure.

>>730779887
Same for me with Morrowind. I never had the original xbox so I missed out on what everyone tells me was a phenomenal game. I really wish Bethesda would remaster Morrowind and Oblivion. Give them a true HD modern remake and they'll probably sell a gazillion copies.

>>730779752
i started with morrowind so i guess i see your perspective

>>730779321
>worst level scaling in a game since Final Fantasy VIII
>boring world
>potato faces
>six voice actors reused constantly
>boring magic system that lacks both the punch of Skyrim or the depth and possibilities of Morrowind
>dumb looking armor
>worst enchanting system
It really isn't very good. Skyrim might have been dumbed down to hell but at least it had a soul to it.

>>730780203
And yet despite overcoming all of those flaws with superior technology and development, Skyrim was still worse.

>>730780126
closest we'll ever get is morrblivion

>>730779321
Spent a lot of time on Oblivion but the leveling system is fucking retarded and leaves the game next to broken.

>>730779321
Oblivion soundtrack>Morrowind Soundtrack >>>>Skyrim Soundtrack.

>>730780316
It really isn't. Oblivion is legitimately a bad game. Also I forgot to mention the horribly repetitive dungeons. Elder Scrolls dungeons have always been bland and nothing special but Oblivion takes the cake for bland and boring dungeons.

>Try to play Oblivion on the hardest settings
>Can only damage enemies with conjuration or an assload of poison

>>730780349
If you can find Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul it does a decent job of salvaging Bethesda's trainwreck of a leveling system.

>>730780669
Difficulty in Elder Scrolls game just makes you weaker and enemies stronger. It doesn't change enemy AI or anything. Hard difficulty is a pretty pointless thing in those games.

>>730779321
The dungeons repeat sorry...I do like it tho

>>730780621
Yeah one guy did all of the oblivion dungeons. Skyrim had a team do all 20 of the dungeons in skyrim. Too bad you were too young to play oblivion when it first came out. Instead you played it after skyrim and were unable to keep yourself from comparing the two and giving oblivion a fair shake with fresh eyes. Its ok, I think pokemon gen 3 was the best when in reality it was probably gen 1.

>>730779321
Archery Sucks donkey balls in oblivion though, not sure about skyrim bc i haven't played it.

Dark Souls 3.
Or 1, but 3 is just a better 1.

>>730779321
>it's like oblivion on steroids
Seriously loved this game but it's underrated as hell

>>730781045
Except I did play Oblivion when it came out only I actually played games with decent dungeons too. Just because Oblivion was your first RPG doesn't mean there aren't better ones.

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morrowind

fucking n'wah

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>>730781316
Kek forgot the picture

>>730781093
Archery is great in Skyrim. It's the subject of memes, in fact.

>>730781317
>Except I did play Oblivion when it came out

It's okay to admit someone else is right once and a while. Just because you CAN lie on the internet doesn't mean you HAVE TO.

>>730781696
Compare dungeons in Oblivion to the dungeons in Nocturne.

Oblivion is great, especially with mods to fix the shit levelling system. Morrowind is great also, again with mods but I prefer Oblivion.
Skyrim is bland and feels completely soulless.

>>730781415
Dude me too. I liked it, but the fucking story/voice acting was such shit...

That aside yes, good game. There was a lot that went well in two worlds but not enough to override everything that went wrong

>>730781696
>>730781975
SMT Nocturne I mean.

>>730782054
I definitely agree with you on that one but you had to love the magic lol. I wasn't a big fan of the sequel though. In their defense, I think southpeak was smaller than Bethesda

I wish i could go back to when WoW was still new. That shit was amazing. No wowhead to tell you where to go. Relying on other players to help out.

>>730782064
LOL Ok you're a weeb, I get it, English RPGs just don't get your little pee pee up, you need waifus and ramen. That's cool bro, just stick to Final Fantasy and keep your gross weeb frontbutt away from good US games. You should move to Japan, they don't have enough weebs.

>>730782520
There aren't waifus in Nocturne, tard.

Started with Skyrim and I thought Morrowind was amazing when I played it. Only played a little of Oblivion but it seems better than Skyrim too.

>>730782676
Spoken like a true weeb. It's been established you have shit taste in RPGs, just keep playing Final Faggotry games on your playstation and humping your pillow. Nobody wants you to play quality rpg's beause then we'll have to take your garbage opinions seriously.

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>>730782898
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE!!1

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>>730782898
>name game that actually has good dungeons
>LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU WEEB FUCK OFF AND DIE REEEEEEEEEEE

>>730783109
Memes frontbutt small peen and waifus. Go to Japan and leave us normal people alone.

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>>730783234
Go back to /r/the_donald

>>730783234
I bet you think Skyrim has good dungeons. Also why do you keep mentioning frontbutts? Are you projecting your own physical flaws onto others? That's a weird specific thing to keep bringing up.

>>730779321
Fallout new Vegas I feel is equal to or better an oblivion

>>730779321
Its better than skyrim in a million ways. If you think otherwise you are literally a fucking retard.

>>730783549
>>730783353
>>730783189
>>730783109
samefat

>>730779321
I've been saying this shit for years

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>>730779321
>>If Oblivion was released in 2011 with similar graphics and technology it would be better in every way than Skyrim.
>>If Skyrim was released in 2006 with similar graphics and technology it would be worse in every way than Oblivion.

>>730783659
kek

>>730783639
NV was amazing

>>730783659
Still projecting your own obesity onto others, eh?

>>730783639
Better

>>730783846
2 choices

>you're fat and sensitive about it so you're aggressively defending yourself
>you're a weeb with a small peen and you don't dispute those two facts, so you attack OP on the only thing he's not correct about because you think OP is projecting.

Pick one.

>>730784342
At least I don't have a frontbutt like you lol

> in oblivion
> hoard skooma
> take 50 vials at once
> can run faster than usain bolt chasing kfc
> high wears off
> pass out for 5 minutes while getting assfucked by mudcrab

Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, Persona 4, FF X

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>>730779321

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robotron, of course

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>>730780134
>>Rational discussion and exchange of ideas on /b/

Get out.

>>730779321
Morrowind obviously.

>>730779321
Agreed

>>730783639
>NV
>Losing against enemy, just find a ledge

I went from the start zone to the end zone by 'scaling' the edge of the map.

Uninstalled

>>730783234
lol 'normal people'.

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>>730784528

>>730779887
combat in skyrim is fucking terrible my dude
i never blocked once the entire game
i just ran into the group of enemies and pressed right trigger until they were all dead
fuck skyrim

>>730785100
Morrowind has the worst fucking game play, you sir are mentally disabled. Im sorry you are literally retarded

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>>730779321
It isn't even the best in its series.

>>730779321
Morrowind
/thread

>>730785568
TOP KEK MEME

>>730780203
>>730780349
whats wrong with the levelling system?

>>730785568
has no chill

>>730779750
garbage tier bait

>>730785568
Why did you post a pic of yourself?

>>730779321
Fucking monkey, ever heard of praise the sun?

>>730781317
pls list better ones

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>>730783234
>differing opinion REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>730780621
>muh opinions
Oblivion was incredible at the time, especially if you didn't have a whole lot of other games to compare it to.

>>730785730
I'm a huge Oblivion fan, and even I acknowledge the problems with the leveling system...

You level up too quickly, the ideal strategy is to pick 7 skills you actually don't use and selectively level them up so you get +5 in 3 attribute categories before you level. If you use heavy armor blade block and armorer, you'll level up quickly and only ever get +2 or +3 in your main attributes. You'll be overleveled and underattributed and you'll be really weak fighting against Xaivali with low damage and hp.

Ideal leveling is a strategy in itself, getting a level only after getting 10 skills leveled up within the same attribute on 3 different attributes. Luckily it caps off after level 21 so you can just get to 20 quickly then keep leveling as much as you want. But Min Maxing is still the best way to go.

>>730785596
great now I don't have to pay a psychiatrist to get diagnosed,
a game isn't bad just because you suck at it,
kids nowadays can't handle a game that doesn't hold their hand.

>>730779810
It is.

TESIV > The Elder Scrolls 4 > Oblivion

>>730785568
lol

love the effort

>>730786102
lol, I'll admit as much.

>>730785568
Brb making a meme format thanks >>730785568

>>730786273
TESIV = The Elder Scrolls 4

>>730785568
*colourized

Amerifat spotted

>>730786224
ohh yeah that
its funny because i didnt want to level the first time i played so i just never slept for the first 200 hours kek

>>730786273
>TESIV > The Elder Scrolls 4
anon...

>>730786561
>>730786273

obl IV ion.

>>730783109
2dodgy

>>730786780
:O

>>730786235
The only reason you fucktards like morrowind is because of nostagia. Morrowind is garbage, not because of handholding but because of of shitty technological limitations.

>>730786615
Lol exactly. Playing it through without leveling you'd fight a million lesser scamps, the game wouldn't be difficult, but if you get to level 20 without min-maxing or at least close to getting +5 in 3 attributes every level would be difficult.

>>730779752
>>730786102
>good for the time
>le aged poorly meme

Fuck off, if a video game was good in the past then it's good now.

>>730779321
Dwarf fortress nigga

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roblox, but exclusively for the story - no comparison, blows oblivion out of the park

prove me wrong

protip: you can't

>>730786901
well, that would make oblivion and Skyrim crap as well compared to future tech.
but they did definitely dumb down the gameplay in oblivion, and they did it again in Skyrim.

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1/2

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>>730787412
2/2

>>730787137
the problem is always subjectivity.

>>730786780
Yes

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so, faggots in this thread, what's your favorite game and why is it Skyrim

pic related it's yfw you realize i'm right

>>730779750
And fallout 2

>>730787137

have you ever gone back and tried to play an older game? i suspect you'd realize that nostalgia usually blinds you to the faults of a game

>>730787412
>>730787450
dude fuck holy shit

>>730787767
Yes, it does. But I can still play oblivion and it's awesome. Just not on PC. Having no controller is cancer, you need it on an Xbox.

>>730787593
i hate skyrim my dude

>>730787412
>>730787450

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>>730787137
I didn't say that it still isn't cool. It's nostalgia, and is engrained in my memory as a satisfying game of enjoyment and long hours.

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Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion

Anyone who disagrees is a Outlander

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>>730787936

fucking Imperial scum

The thing that I didn't really like about Oblivion was that it was too easy. I don't like to cheat in a game or use glitches, but I'll definitely choose the path of least resistance. If there's a strategy that beats every other strategy in the game, I'm gonna use that.

So I pretty much played the entirety of Oblivion casting a 2 second stun on an enemy, then chopping them while they were on the ground.

>>730787593
My favorite game is Battlefield but Oblivion will always have a special place in my heart.

>>730787767
I personally still play Morrowind. it still holds up for me. nostalgia, or no, I still love that game.

>>730788329
Move the difficulty slider up a bit, and then level up to 10-20 immediately before playing the quests. just don't min-max, pick skills you actually will use.

>>730788329

Unless you turn the difficulty slider up.

>>730788337
1942 ?

>>730788479
I like the ambient noise in the dwemer ruins

>>730788523
I'll try that :)

>>730788329

>next level graphics that look like garbage
>next level AI, so advanced you can cast basic spells and confuse it
>poorly written plot with dearth of voice acting written by some drunken fuckwad @ 3 AM after a night of pounding absinthe
>NEETs are still jerking themselves off about it more than a decade later

Oblivion in a nutshell

>>730788566
All of them

>>730788663
Wait, you're not me

>>730788645
yea the clanky distant cog like sounds are great.

>>730788783
Then who are you?

>>730780203
this for the most part
I went back to oblivion again and I will say that even though the quests have waaaaay better story and are more interesting than skyrims, the general aesthetic of skyrim added a whole new level of immersion. Id have to disagree with you on the magic though, if theres anything Id have to say sucked with skyrim its that its magic was made very bland and uninteresting

>>730788663
haha no, but I've had the same problems with oblivion. to easy.

>>730788853
Scared the living shit out of me as a kid tbh

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>>730788761

ikr, Battlefield Hardline was a masterpiece, should have been GOTY, maybe game of the decade

>>730788672
>>730780203

samefat. I have your IP address brother, you won't pull a fast one on me without a VPN.

>>730779321
Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivishit

>>730788783
haha no, but I've had the same problems with oblivion. to easy

>>730788873
>>730780203
>>730788672

samefat still, also replying to himself lol see>>730785568 again but replace it with whatever numbers you are now.

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>>730788983

how often do you yank yer microdick thinking about Oblivion

>>730788954
Agreed. But fuck EA and Origin

>>730788954
lol, it was amazing that it got made.

>>730779947
Is...Is that you Harry?

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>>730789105

nice try guy

why do you retards even try to point this out you're never right

>>730789483
gold

>>730789189
>>730789168

i was being facetious of course, it was an atrocious piece of hot garbage

unlike Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - a sublime masterpiece reminiscent of High Renaissance art, I would easily put IW in the same god-tier of games like Bear Simulator and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5

Munch's oddysee

>>730789483
photoshopped.

you can tell because of the way it is

>>730789667
back peddling lol

Oblivion is in my top 5 of all time.

>CoD 4 MW
>Mario Kart 64
>Warcraft III
>Oblivion
>Bioshock

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Toejam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron

name a better game, i'll wait, you can't

>>730789853

Replace WC3 with Starcraft & SC:BW, and add in Diablo 2

Warcraft has sucked dog cock since WC2

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>>730789667

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>>730789748

>>730779321
>if

>>730789981

Custom games my brother... The custom games on WC3 were above all games anywhere else. From the LoaP to Footmen Frenzy, Castle Defense, Line Tower Wars, Wintermaul, Legion TD, Run Kitty Run, Hero Arena, so many amazing creations. Not to mention...

WC3 basically created the MOBA genre (yes I know starcraft had one but it wasn't dota.) Dota 2, LoL, HoN, and HoTS all stem from warcraft 3 dota. Clearly it was a highly influential game.

>>730790088
>in every way

I'm willing to concede graphics and some primitive ai/leveling systems. Those issues in Skyrim would have killed that game. Oblivion is good despite those few issues.

Not to mention Skyrim is impossible to play without mods. Play vanilla skyrim today and you've got a recipe for boring fucking shit.

>>730790194

and all of those 'classic games' on WC3 were direct port-ins from Starcraft's custom game mode and map editor

so, what you're saying is that I'm right

thank you for acknowledging my superiority

>>730785585
That's why you have to go battle mage or pure mage. Little better but I agree combat is still shit

>>730790392
>>730790194

also, HoTS is dogshit, easily the worst game Blizz has produced since WoW

Hearthstone is definitely in the running, too, since it's a RNGfest made to sell digital bullshit to 6-40 year old children in the form of a panoply of brightly colored 'cards' that look like they were designed and drawn by an autistic drug addict; loosely themed on some kind of D&D fanfiction set in a universe where everyone is a massive homosexual dying of AIDS and catastrophic organ failure and blacks don't exist (I think it's modeled on San Francisco)

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>>730787767
>never played Elder Scrolls before
>play the first one on a whim a year ago
>had a great time, the controls are ass and everyone back then knew they were ass too, making your own spells was amazing and I loved the maze like dungeons
>playing through Daggerfall, it's the first game minus the bullshit, having a great time
>played Deus Ex 1 two years ago, GOATest game ever
>go back and play Mario 64, Banjo 1 and 2, GTA 2, Resident Evil 2, Tony Hawk 3
>all are solid experiences and some still haven't been topped yet

Yeah must be the nostalgia

>>730786273
newfag detected.